Latest / Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo / Mark & Amber Archer: Discerning The Times, Exposing The Darkness
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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:20Discerning current events, defending biblical Christianity.
- 0:25I always remember that one, maybe because it's the last one.
- 0:28We are back for another podcast, thank you guys for tuning in, thank you for sharing,
- 0:32and most importantly for praying for us, we are moving along if you just missed it.
- 0:36A week or so ago, we can have a go, we had our 500th episode of World View Matters, and
- 0:43it's just, to me, it's a head scratcher, I don't know how we, but we're here, and we
- 0:46just keep plugging away.
- 0:48So I've got some great guests, they are going to be in Green Bay, Wisconsin May 1st and
- 0:522nd to speak at our World View Matters conference, and it is Mark and Amber Archer, before we
- 0:58get to them, let me thank our sponsors, because I want to make sure that's part of the package,
- 1:03you know, when you do a trade, or when sponsors come on board, we promise to give them mentions,
- 1:09and put them in the program at the conference, and to, you know, things like that.
- 1:14So I do want to mention them, they are on the bottom of the website worldviewmattersconference.com,
- 1:20major sponsors, Harbanger's Daily Legacy Church Creative Edge Productions,
- 1:25the Family Radio Network Freedom Project Academy, and his sword ministries,
- 1:30or one more major sponsor, Alpha Omega Gold.
- 1:35And now the other sponsors, I just want to shout out to our amazing grace,
- 1:40Verlo Matrus, Fearless Features, Mark and Amber Archer, Liberty Sentinel, Alex Newman,
- 1:48NCLED Lighting, Crossway Christian Fellowship, and that's our brother Brad Reeves out there in
- 1:55Maryland, Lighthouse Christian Books in Green Bay, One Way Christian Church in Green Bay,
- 2:01Birkowitz Mechanical, Training Godly Warriors in Michigan, Grace Christian Academy,
- 2:09Delory Chiropractic in Depear, Wisconsin, coming soon ministries, Wisconsin Christian news,
- 2:16and hey, David Fierraso Ministries, gotta give myself a plug. So guys, thank you so much
- 2:21for just helping us along the way here, being so patient. We've been talking about this
- 2:25conference for years, and now we're less than a month away. I do want to say, Mark and Amber,
- 2:30we're excited. There are less than 70 tickets available. And we've got, I don't know,
- 2:37several weeks yet to promote it and plug it and get the word out. And oh, and we're on the top.
- 2:42Harbinger's Daily put a banner on the top of their website. World View Matters conference. And
- 2:47so there it is. Harbinger's Daily News, if you go there to get your news filled for the day or
- 2:52the week, look at that beautiful banner at the top. We're just really blessed by the support,
- 2:58and the favor. Thank you, Lord, that God's given us. Mark and Amber, welcome.
- 3:04Hello again. Hello again. Yes. So we recently did an interview. They had me on, guys,
- 3:09if you have not seen it, they had me on just to talk about the theme of the conference,
- 3:15the purpose, what's going on in the church, what times are we living in? What does the body of
- 3:20Christ need? Spiritual warfare and things that you and I, the three of us are going to talk about
- 3:27in this podcast today. There it is. Oh, there's that it. All right. Fearless with Mark and Amber.
- 3:34Fearless. So guys, since we last saw you, that was recently, wasn't that like a week or two ago?
- 3:44So let's talk about you're going to be in Green Bay. What we were talking about before we got on
- 3:49the podcast, how do you decide what to include? I know it depends on the audience and maybe the
- 3:55purpose of the conference. But this is the body of Christ. And you know, people need a lot.
- 4:01We need a lot of equipping and we need to sharpen each other. And so when you put together,
- 4:06I mean, you know, you're speaking at the octan counter, the octan counter, the arcan counter.
- 4:12Are you going to Kentucky? Ken Ham, shout out to Ken Ham. So how did you put that together when
- 4:19both of you are speaking? And it's one presentation. Just share a little insight for our audience.
- 4:25Well, I think it's been, it's really been easy for us. I mean, because we work together every day.
- 4:31So it's not like, it's not like it's something new. But for us, we just looked at it and said,
- 4:36you know what, you're going to tackle the first movie. I'll do the second one. You do the third one.
- 4:40I'll do the fourth one. And you can end it with the fifth one. And so that's exactly what we did
- 4:45is just, you know, kind of taking people along on the journey that we've been on.
- 4:51Because it really, it's, it's incredible to see the Lord work and how everybody continues to
- 4:57come alongside. And just as believers, being able to unite in a common cause and mission
- 5:04to advance the gospel and, you know, advance the kingdom of God.
- 5:09Yeah, it kind of depends on, you know, if it's something specific, if somebody's inviting
- 5:15us to come to speak, then, you know, sometimes the marriage conference.
- 5:19Yeah, so if we did a marriage conference last year. And of course, we asked them, well,
- 5:24what do you want us to talk about? And, and we had this great plan going in. And we ended up just
- 5:28sitting and talking to everyone about, it was quite completely off script. And everybody thought
- 5:36it was great. So with, with what we're, what we're going to be talking about, at your conference,
- 5:42especially as we're, we really are focused on talking about the, the, the world views.
- 5:53And it's a, it's a, it's an appropriate subject for this show, I think, because the world view
- 5:59does matter. And, and especially biblical sexuality. And so we can, we can riff on that for a
- 6:08long time, you know, based on the films that we're doing, because that's what the attacks have been.
- 6:15So, so also you're working on principalities. That's going to be your brand new one, hopefully
- 6:20available in June. And you're, you've been doing a lot of work on that for a while. Oh, you know,
- 6:25what? Yeah, there's your page with all your other projects. Um, so I sent you a scripture and I
- 6:32just re, I remembered now, why did I come across that? Oh, because I was going, so I was going through
- 6:36first Corinthians. And six, chapter 16 is the last chapter. And I came across this verse and I
- 6:43remembered this is the verse that Charlie Kirk texted to his closest friends the day he was
- 6:51assassinated. Oh, he texted this verse is that's why when I came to the end of first Corinthians
- 6:57and read that again, I'm going, wow, and I thought about spiritual warfare, which is we'll talk more
- 7:03about that. Let me share the verse with everybody. First Corinthians 16 verse nine for a wide door
- 7:11for effective service has opened to me. And there are many adversaries. Another translation says
- 7:18there's much opposition, a wide door of service, a wide door of work, meaning for the kingdom of
- 7:24God. There's always opposition. There are many adversaries sometimes seen, sometimes not seen,
- 7:31meaning the demonic realms. Could you could have speak to that Mark or Amber before we move on?
- 7:37Yeah, I mean, working on this film in particular, principalities is really opened our eyes to a lot
- 7:45of this that there's so much that we when you tell people that you're that you're speaking about
- 7:52spiritual warfare, they always assume it's like an episode of ghost hunters or something. And you say,
- 7:57no, no, no, what you have to realize is like Ephesians talks about that everything is being moved
- 8:05along and manipulated behind the scenes by powers and principalities. That's so spiritual warfare
- 8:13plays out right in front of you all the time. So it's not just the, you know, the spooky
- 8:22ghost stuff. It's it is in front of us constantly. What we what we write off as, you know,
- 8:30political arguments, it's because there's spiritual warfare going on. What we write off as,
- 8:37you know, things like Islamic extremism. Well, it's it's demonic warfare being manifested in real time.
- 8:45So it is it's everywhere. So Amber, I want to direct this one to you along those lines. What are some
- 8:53of the ways we know that we're dealing with spiritual warfare? What are some examples? Like even
- 9:01what you guys have encountered since you've been working on the films that you have? Well,
- 9:07what I can say is, you know, open doors doesn't mean that it's going to be an easy path. And we know
- 9:13that the enemy attacks the mind first. And so when you talk about spiritual warfare, if you just
- 9:20look around turn on the news and you can see the battle taking shape right in front of your eyes.
- 9:26But so many times, especially, you know, we are in a biblically illiterate society in church.
- 9:32And so they don't know how to recognize what they're actually seeing when it's right in front of
- 9:37their face. And so that's that's really what we've been working on. The heart of what we're doing
- 9:43is to try and help people see, you know, taking it from a biblical perspective, seeing it with a
- 9:49biblical lens and, you know, applying a biblical worldview to every scenario that you come across
- 9:57in your life. Because if you don't, if you don't know the truth, you know, you're going to be
- 10:03sucked in and misled and deceived. The same way Satan deceived Eve in the garden. He didn't come
- 10:09with a weapon. He came with a question. Did God really say? Yeah. And that applies to a lot,
- 10:17right? If you can put doubts just instant and the enemy does this, he I don't want to give him
- 10:21credit, but he's really good in a demonic way of putting doubts. And if if the enemy can discourage
- 10:29believers from the work that we're doing or what someone watching or listening right now,
- 10:36you've got talents and abilities that hopefully you're using for God or asking God, how can I
- 10:42be more effective? How can I serve you? What can I do as far as my gifts and talents and my sphere
- 10:47of influence? If the enemy can discourage you and that's half the battle, then he doesn't have to
- 10:54worry about attacking you. If he can get you to beat yourself up and discourage you, right?
- 10:59My dad is famously said, my dad has taught Sunday school classes for 40 plus years.
- 11:06And he has famously said that Satan is perfectly happy hiding a thimbleful of error in a
- 11:11lake of truth. And when we talk about this and how media especially corrupts your worldview,
- 11:21it's because Satan doesn't show, Satan specializes in addiction. He's like your drug dealer.
- 11:28He doesn't show up and hit you with a full dose of fentanyl right off. He'll show up and he'll
- 11:33give you a little taste of something that's seemingly innocuous, but it's got just a little bit of
- 11:39error in it. And then it creates that need. And so you come back in each time, he doses you a
- 11:46little bit more. And what we've told people and what we say in a lot of our talks is if you want
- 11:52to understand spiritual warfare, if you want to understand the influence of media, all you got to do
- 11:57is study addiction and how it works because that's what media is doing. And that's the prince of
- 12:03this world is behind that. He specializes in that. So I forgot to mention at the very beginning,
- 12:10I want to take this opportunity. I didn't give your website fearlessfeatures.org. I know Jeff showed
- 12:16it fearlessfeatures.org and also Mark's book compromised. You can order that linked it's linked
- 12:23on there. So I want to go to some notes that you sent me that you and Amber were talking about.
- 12:30You made a great point. I think this was Mark quoting Amber that the Christians cannot
- 12:36grow in isolation. We also talked, I think before we got on the podcast that we're more isolated,
- 12:42maybe it was the beginning of this conversation. It's where easier targets for the enemy. Amber,
- 12:47you want to speak to that? Well, and it weakens your conviction, right? If you're isolated and you
- 12:53have no one to either encourage you along the way, lead you back to the truth, you know, you can
- 13:00very easily get swayed in the wrong direction and your conviction be completely lost if you
- 13:06isolate yourself away from other believers. We're not told, we're told to gather and do not
- 13:13forsake the gathering. So there's a reason why we need each other. Yes, and we should not only
- 13:19sharpen each other, but if we're real, and I think in this day and age friends, use discernment,
- 13:25but just get the mask, take the mask off. Just be real on Sunday morning or when we're talking
- 13:32with our Christian brothers and sisters, we don't need to pretend everything's great when it's not.
- 13:38We don't have time for that. I don't. So I hope you can have those kind of relationships
- 13:43at your church. If you're listening to this or watching this, I hope you have a church that
- 13:49you can be real with either your pastor or the brothers and sisters you gather with. Mark,
- 13:55you want to speak to that? Yeah, we were talking earlier about how what I, what the Lord's really
- 14:01put on my heart is reaching men because I see every week at our church that women come in by
- 14:12themselves. And I know that their husbands are just not interested in being part of the church.
- 14:20And what I see there is the men, it's a double-edged sword because Satan has so attacked masculinity
- 14:30in our culture, he's convinced men that they're not needed. And it convinced women that they don't
- 14:36need the men. But yet what the women desperately want is for the men to lead and bring the family
- 14:43to church. And what I see is broken families, families that there's a mother and a father and a
- 14:50family together. But on Sunday mornings, it's a broken home because the men want to isolate
- 14:56themselves. And as you were saying that earlier and I thought one of the arguments that I've heard
- 15:02in this warrior culture as men saying, well, Jesus isolated himself.
- 15:06No, Jesus didn't. He spent time with the father. And he went to pray. And he went to pray. He prayed
- 15:12and fasted for 40 days with the father. That was not him isolating himself. There's a time and a
- 15:18place to isolate yourself from the world. But that you need to be with the Lord in those times. But
- 15:27just completely isolating yourself and cutting yourself off from any and all influence,
- 15:32godly influence is not healthy. Like Amber said, you can't grow in that. That's where Satan
- 15:37gets you. That's how he gets you off on your own and any attacks you.
- 15:44Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about how that's where the cults get to kids. That's
- 15:49where the sex traffickers and the LGBTQ recruit. And that's where those who would want to harm you
- 15:56or get you into their cult when you're isolated. You're an easier target, right?
- 16:01Oh, yeah, absolutely. In fact, there's a famous interview clip that's been around on social
- 16:09media for a year or two with a convicted pedophile. And he talks about the interviewer asks
- 16:16him how he picked a kid to target. And he specifically says, if there was a father in the picture,
- 16:23I wouldn't even approach them. I was looking for kids that didn't have a father. And
- 16:29it's guided. Yeah, especially that they didn't have a father in the picture because then I knew
- 16:35I could get him. And it's so convicting. And to see that and to hear that. And it's what people
- 16:42like you and I have been saying for a long time. Yeah, dads, that's why you have to be there. You
- 16:49cannot break men who break up their homes because they've got some misguided sense of, you know,
- 16:56I'm a man. I got to be alone and I can do this on my own. It's on my own. No, you're you're
- 17:02shirking your duties before the Lord. It's not the Lord will not honor that.
- 17:07So one of the sponsors of the World View Matters Conference is Pastor Steve Smotherman and
- 17:14Legacy Church and Albuquerque, New Mexico. There's a church in New Mexico and there's
- 17:19a church in Maryland sponsoring a Wisconsin Biblical Summit conference. So Steve's motherman
- 17:26has often said, the LGBT cannot reproduce so they have to recruit. Oh, yeah. What a great
- 17:35pretty profound. They cannot cannot reproduce so they have to recruit. And you think about the
- 17:41LGBT, the whole goal of that. What is that? It's demonic population control. It prevent them from
- 17:50having children. You know, they have to recruit because they can't reproduce. Very fascinating when
- 17:54you talk about this, the LGBTQ, what you call the LGBTQ mafia. Yeah. But yeah, they so here's
- 18:02what it is. Here's the contrast. And here's the interesting thing. They've built up this idea of,
- 18:08it's a counterfeit of the truth. Yeah. Community, the LGBTQ community. What are we supposed to have
- 18:17in the church? Community, the community of believers, the fellowship of the saints. The LGBTQ
- 18:23has perverted that and has counterfeited because young people want that community. They want that
- 18:29acceptance. They want to be around people of like mine. Very interesting, isn't it? If you contrast
- 18:35that. Oh, yeah. Satan is the great counterfeiter. He's the biggest fraud, biggest fake in world
- 18:40history and people still fall for it. That's amazing. The, you know, the transgender, the T of the
- 18:48LGBTQ is really the, if you look at the letters in a row, transgenderism is where it progresses to
- 18:55the outward manifestation of the demonic influences that are controlling each of them. You know,
- 19:02lesbianism, gay, bisexual, it's all demonic, demonic, demonic, you get to the transgenderism.
- 19:08Now we want to look and dress and act like the demons that we've been influenced by. You know,
- 19:13when you see the pictures of the guys with the demon horns and all the makeup and, you know,
- 19:18reading to the kids, look, look, isn't that, isn't that cute? How they look like the demons that
- 19:23they actually worship? It's, it's just staggering that people don't say it. Yeah, yeah, it's super.
- 19:30I'm glad you brought that up because we watch, I don't know what channel this is where we watch
- 19:34reruns the of some sitcoms. I don't remember what channel is, but they, they advertise this show
- 19:42with the drag race or whatever the, and they are truly demonic. And if you back up and look at
- 19:50what is this? What, what are they? Well, they're men, primarily gay, homosexual men doing perverted
- 19:58things dressing up like women to sexually, I don't know, arouse or entice. It's just so demonic.
- 20:05And if you look back, I don't know how many years has it been now, you guys 10, maybe less,
- 20:10where they started the drag queen story hours and public libraries and other public places,
- 20:15parks. And you're going, what, what, where are we living? What parent is okay with this in public?
- 20:23Yeah. Well, and it's leading to the normalization of pedophilia. I mean, and that's one of the
- 20:29things that was an entitled nine that we don't nine. And one of the reasons why we get banned,
- 20:34you can't talk about, you can't talk about pedophilia. Well, no, we are because it's on the rise
- 20:40and people don't understand, you know, that the things that were once abominable are now being
- 20:47accepted and celebrated. And if you're not celebrating it and accepting it, well, now you're
- 20:52the problem. And, you know, you need to be punished. And title nine now also officially banned by
- 20:58Amazon. Yeah. I'm going to add that in there. We're we're talking the other day. It's that we're
- 21:03bad in about 50%. That's, you know, under God, that's a badge of honor. But I know it doesn't help
- 21:11you getting getting it out there to raise awareness and to educate informed people. That's really,
- 21:17really amazing. And amazing. That's surprising. But um, so Satan goes after young people,
- 21:23Satan goes after the most vulnerable, the isolated. Um, also, let's make make a little transition now.
- 21:30I had no agenda going into this, by the way. We talked to Mark and Amber. Let's just talk about
- 21:34worldview issues and what's going on. Free flowing conversation. Thank you, Holy Spirit,
- 21:39leading this. Hopefully God is being glorified. But the body of Christ needs to understand
- 21:44what our church is doing. How does Satan reach those in a church? Well,
- 21:49this day and age, you've got to put some churches and air quotes. Let me go over to second Timothy
- 21:54for. And we talked a little bit about this before before we got on the podcast. Paul says,
- 21:59I give you this charge. Preach the word. Preach the word in season and out of season. He says,
- 22:04I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living in
- 22:11the dead. Preach the word. Preach the gospel. Preach the whole council of God. Make disciples.
- 22:15But verse three. And now this applies to what's going on in a lot of our churches in America.
- 22:22Unfortunately, we're here today for the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine.
- 22:31But wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance
- 22:38to their own desires. Now, what God desires? And they'll turn away their ears from the truth
- 22:46and will turn aside to myths. Would you care to speak to that? You guys, that's where we are in
- 22:53a lot of churches. Unfortunately, you get teachers, Bible teachers, pastors, and you have to put
- 22:59some pastors and air quotes. They'll just tell you what you want to hear. It's about happiness,
- 23:03not holiness. Go ahead, guys, whoever wants to jump in. Well, and that's what you're seeing with
- 23:08all this. You've got this new age worship that's going on. You've got a sorghum sport. Everybody can
- 23:12take whatever, whatever. And let's just combine them all. What was I called? You combine
- 23:17polytheism. Polytheism. You're combining all of these different religions. Well, I like a little
- 23:22bit of this and a little bit of this. And so it doesn't, there's no cohesive one one way.
- 23:28You know, it's, it's all what makes me feel good. And, and how can I live my life this way?
- 23:35And then, and then they'll go after me and say, well, well, who are you, who are you to say that
- 23:40I can't live this way? You know, and so then the church is, is people are going, well, who,
- 23:45well, now I don't want to offend anybody. And I'm, I'm a good Christian.
- 23:50Well, we live in an age two where I mean, think about, think about the, the, the youth that are now
- 23:56coming into young adulthood. They have grown up with drop down menus, right? I get to customize
- 24:02everything. And so they go into church and they want drop down menus for God. Well, I want this,
- 24:09I want them to look like this and talk like this and tell me these things. I, I want my custom
- 24:15avatar, God. And if I don't like it, I can fast forward. I can skip, right? I can, I can respond.
- 24:21I can get a new God. And so that's what they're, that's what they're used to. And then you get the,
- 24:27the, the glory-seeking air-quote pastors. And we have said this many times that there's a
- 24:34difference between people who, I'm talking about doing podcasts. For example, there's a difference
- 24:39between people who seek to be an influencer and people who go forward to speak the truth.
- 24:46And this is something that we've talked about a lot and are very clear on telling people,
- 24:53I am not here trying to be an influencer and I'm not here to try to be popular. I'm, I'm here
- 24:59out of an act of obedience. Well, we make our films. If I wanted to be popular, I would not be making
- 25:04the films that I am. I certainly wouldn't be true. Yeah. So there's, there's a difference between
- 25:13wanting to influence and wanting to be, to tell the truth of, of the word of God, right?
- 25:20Last week, I should share a meme on my Facebook page about Jesus. He's, he looks like he's
- 25:26teaching the crowd, like on the surmount on the mount. Things Jesus never said, do your best not
- 25:31to make waves. Remember, it's all about, it's all about unity. And then he says, things Jesus
- 25:38never said, after all, you want the world to like you. Sometimes you need to just go along to get along.
- 25:43And you and I, the three of us can laugh at that because we know what the Bible teaches,
- 25:50but to some, it sounds maybe what's wrong with that. Just not wanting to offend, not going
- 25:56along to get along. I want to briefly, we only have a minute left. These friends go to gotquestions.org
- 26:02and type in syncretism because it's the practice of these different beliefs, different systems
- 26:07trying to blend them all into one, creating a distorted faith or a belief system that conflicts,
- 26:12you're conflicting with yourself with all these different beliefs. So syncretism, I thought we'd
- 26:17end on that note. You guys a minute or so left. We'll see you May 1st and 2nd, Green Bay,
- 26:22Wisconsin, Mark and Amber, just any closing thoughts for our audience today, the body of Christ.
- 26:27You know, just excited to be with other believers. It is, it is always so amazing and impactful.
- 26:34When you get people who you don't fellowship with on a regular basis and everybody is excited
- 26:40and charged and ready to go out and to be able to encourage each other, iron, sharpen,
- 26:46iron. I mean, we're ready for it. Yeah. And the big tech sensors cannot suppress you when you're
- 26:53in the same room. Good call. Yes. And I'll tell you what, the speakers that we've got coming,
- 26:58the Alex Newman's, the Elijah Abraham's, the Olivia Melnick's, the Scott Sharers, you guys
- 27:03and many, many more lera Perry's small. We will not be censored, but we're talking about things
- 27:07that might offend some people out there, but we need to equip the body of Christ so that people
- 27:13know how to respond to all that's going on around us from culture to Bible prophecy to education,
- 27:19to these demonic movements and cults, the spiritual warfare. Guys, it went by fast, great conversation.
- 27:25And thanks again for having me on your podcast recently and we'll see you soon. Thanks. Awesome.
- 27:31Thank you. All right. Friends, we appreciate you guys sharing the podcast. Praise God. And I hope
- 27:37you make it to the conference May 1st and 2nd in Green Bay. God bless you. And as always,
- 27:41keep speaking the truth about things that matter.