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Marie Antoinette Kelley - Danny’s Day in Heaven · Postcards to the Universe

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bring in more of those things. Right, that's what we want to do.
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We want to bring more abundance in our life. But the difference with
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my workshop is we're going to be using our camera phones as part of our
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check it out. And at the end of the course you're going to have
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a beautiful visual gratitude journal which are really powerful. So when I mentioned earlier
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that I was doing live readings, since there are thirty manifesting stories postcards in
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my book, what I'm doing now is I always share what I call magical
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message. I post them on my social media. It's an image of a
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manifesting postcard. I photograph it with the person's message, and I'm rephotographing because
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I'm doing the readings with the books, so they're sort of going side by
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side. I'm rephotographing the postcards that were in the book, and I realize
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how much better I've gotten since the book has been released. I'm like wow,
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and it's really fun to kind of re interpret them. So this week's
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is there is Beauty in the Breakdown. And this is one of my contributors.
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Her name is Eliza. It's her story and it's her postcard. And
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her story was about letting go of an old love so that she can embrace
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her new love. So of course you either have to listen to my readings
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or buy the book to find out what her story is. But that's what
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this week's message is, there is beauty in the Breakdown. Okay, So
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now I'm excited to talk to my guest today, Marie Antoinette Kelly. So.
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She is an award winning artist who has done hundreds of commission portraits as
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well as the art for the Angel Quest Oracle. She has appeared on dozens
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of TV radio on podcast shows, and has been published in such magazines as
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Edge and Authority. Danny's Day in Heaven is a wonderful gift for anyone who
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has ever asked or had to answer, the all important question what happens when
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we die? This beautifully illustrated children's book follows a young boy through his near
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death experience to heaven and back. A happy ending helps to open the conversation
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between children and adults about what happens when we die. Danny is like any
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other kid on the beach. He wants to have fun, though he's a
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bit of a bully. While he's surfing the waves, one day, a
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storm rolls in, catching him by surprise. The water pulls him under and
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Danny finds himself going through a tunnel of colors and light, appearing in a
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radiant world with unexpected friends. What he discovers, who he meets, and
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the lessons he learns before returning to Earth will ease children's fears and give hope
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to readers both young and old about life after death. So if you want
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to find out more about it, you can check out Marie Antoinette's website and
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more about Danny's Day in Heaven. Go to make m a k fine art
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dot com. It's m a K fi n e a art dot com.
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Welcome Marie Antoinette, thanks for joining me. Hi Melista, thank you for
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the introduction. I'm so happy to be here. Oh my god, I
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love the book so much, and I love your artwork as a fellow artist.
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I love the drawings are just beautiful and it really helps tell the story.
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And I think it too. Yeah, I really think it's a great
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book for kids because it leaves you feeling very comforted after the story, right
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about what does happen when we die? So Okay, you're the author and
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the illustrator, and it's just amazing that you put it together, and you're
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talking about an NDE experience, which is near death experience, and so what
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made you interested in creating the story and writing the story? Well, I
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suppose there's a lot of ways to answer that, because there's so many angles
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of my life that sure, I'm sure there are, right. The main
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drive for it is that, you know, I was a child who was
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really afraid of death, and so that stuck with me, oh, you
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know, to my life. And over the years after I grew up as
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an adult, I started to financeers, you know, near death stories and
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what really happens when we die? And I kept thinking, you had my
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own kids along the way, and I kept thinking, we need to share
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the differmation and as kids so they don't have to have that fear that I
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had and be left in the dark because I felt as a child. You
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know, it's earlier, and now there's a lot of information out there,
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and probably there are quite a few parents who share the information that they've learned
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as grown ups with their kids, but there was this anything official for children
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that really helps them face the questions that are on their minds that I had
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as a kid, and that was one of my passions to get that out.
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Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. I mean there are many
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books out there for adults on ndds, and I know this book is loosely
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adapted from another author, and this person actually experienced and d is it Damian
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Wrinkly Dan, Yeah, he had. He's one of a person as one
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as the most complete near death experiences on record. He himself was dead for
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thirty two minutes. And that was the nineteen seventy five I believe, So
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it was in the early day of this phenomenon was first documented and people would
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actually begin telling these stories. And of course, with all the medical advances,
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more people have had the chance to you know, die and be resuscitated.
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And in fact I was also in that situation later on in my life.
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But that doesn't really come into play in this story. His story was
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so compelling to me. I found his story in the nineties and impost all
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days me but that's when I was worth, you know, growing up and
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coming out of that space where I really, you know, was dependent as
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a child on other people's insights and I started to find my own. And
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so his story was one of the first that touched my heart of a first
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hand account, empirical evidence, yes, we don't die, we do live
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on. And it took it from you know, philosophy or religion, which
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is of course, you know, president, most of our lives in some
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way or another. So real evidence, a person really touching the other side
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and saying yes is what happened to me. And Ah, that hit home
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so beautifully and I felt that's comfort from it. And that's actually when the
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first thought came to me that here was a story that I wanted to tell
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for children. So it wasn't again, you know, second hand or third
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hand, but versus had experience for children the day could see what happens when
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when we die. Yeah, well, it's funny that you said that you
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were scared of it because as a young girl myself. I was scared too.
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I mean, I grew up you know, Catholic is my background.
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I'm not really very ill person. I'm more of a spiritual person. And
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I remember being terrified yea of purgatory because I couldn't understand what would get you
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into purgatory, because it was like, so like God, you could like
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look at somebody the wrong way? Does that mean I'm going to be an
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a void for the rest of my life? Right? It's terrifying to kids.
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So this is really comforting because you know, at the end of the
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book there is a message and we'll get to that in a little bit.
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You know, the message at the end of the book. But but how
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do you think parents can you know, use your book to explain about death
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for the first time. I mean, do you have you did you do
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a lot of research for the book talking to parents with young children, you
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know, maybe that I've had these kind of experiences and before you created the
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book, Well, I yes and no. I mean, obviously the book
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has been since I first thought of this idea in the nineties. It's been
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a while in the making, and I was able to raise my own kids
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in that time period and just my own personal experience, but also my natural
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interest is in spirituality and you know self help and psychology, and so yes,
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I have done the research. I have read a lot of material on
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it, but mostly I've also lived it and raised my kids with it.
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And I felt it was very natural for all of us, because I do
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believe that, you know, spirit is the other side of matters, the
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sides of the same point, and every one of its has a spiritual nature,
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and it's up to us how we, you know, develop it and
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how we invest in it. But I would say nine out of tend kids
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to have some sort of question about, you know, the spiritual meaning of
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what happens, and you know, they try and make sense of it through
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their religion, like you and I being raised Catholic, And it was a
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safe for me because I see now that I have a natural intuitive personality and
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you know a lot of spiritual communication happening. But back then I try to
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fit that into this model that I was living within, and of course that
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left so many questions unanswered, and I think it's that that, you know,
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not having real answers that added up that left death being equated as a
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black hole that gobble people up because you don't know with with actual confidence that
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this is what happens. And so philosophy isn't so interesting to kids more real
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life experiences. And so when I started getting these answers, I naturally raised
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my kids with these ends. And then it became a second nature for them
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to have contexts for spirit being the other side of our material, you know,
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our physical existence, and so that continuum really with the natural part of
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their life. And so when I started reading Daniel's story and then other people's
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stories, the whole thing bubbled down to like some fundamental ingredients that happened when
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we died. I wrote about those in this book, you know, through
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a story and adventure of Danny, who is modeled as a child version of
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Daniel Brinkley. But yeah, so I took some liberties with his story because
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he for example, I've had his near death experience through a lightning strike,
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and of course I couldn't take that literally because the child can't recover in thirty
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two pages from a lightning strike, right, So that would have been a
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little bit difficult. So I had to make an adaptation in that case,
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you know, make him you know, faith death, blue grounding so he
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could be resuscitated and what he happens to him though in the dying experience is
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modeled after Daniel's experience as well as other people that have docu that they're near
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death experience, and so it includes things like you know, the tunnel coming
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to the other side, which is just unconditional love and life, and meeting
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a guide of your own and then having your life review and meeting loved ones
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who have passed on already. Those are really common elements. And you know,
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researchers who have studied this from an official scientific phenomenon have found these common
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elements are independent of religion or cultural background. So it isn't that you have
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to believe a certain way to expect this part of you know death to be
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true for you. So those are the kind of elements that I highlighted in
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this book so that we can give a foundation to our kids rather than tell
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them how to believe or what to think, we just give them the elements.
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So that parents who then introduced this book, I think that was your
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question, how do you as a parent handle the book? They can take
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this as the fundamentals of you know, dying or death and then add their
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philosophy or add their spiritual beliefs or their religion and fits that within it because
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there is an obvious subjective elemental spirit because it's very posemoltity to and everyone them
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we're a hard stars and that element is for people to include themselves. Well,
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I'm glad you mentioned that because I was going to ask you that about
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people from different religions and cultures of having similar experiences, you know, from
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the documented experiences of people that have had NDI ease. You know, they're
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traveling through the light and the meeting the guides and the unconditioned a lot.
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So that's really really interesting that that's kind of a common theme for all the
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different people from all the different walks of you know, light having those Yeah,
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it really really is. It is really really cool. Yeah, and
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that verify for us, you know, because yeah, so that's essential and
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there's so much dread among the kids like what do they believe? And then
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where does it all? How does it matter? And I feel this is
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kind of like the cult rock and they can hang their own little element.
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It's on it, you know, because there is the truth to spirit and
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there is you know, a base experience that we all have that. We
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will then feel the details and based on how we have you know, used
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their consciousness our own choices, like whether we are Hindu or Buddhists or Christians,
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and so the afterlife will shape accord with the unconditional love and support from
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the spiritual realm. It'll shape according to where we have explored and where we
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have invested our consciousness. But the main steps are there, and so for
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this book, I use Daniel's main idea. Yeah, now let me ask
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you going off of that, have you had any pushback from people to do
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some people find it? Yeah, there's always those people. There's always those
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spiritule out there, right, And I said, you shouldn't be talking about
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this with children, you know that kind of right. No, I have
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not had that kind of pushback. The overwhelming majority of the feedback has been
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what a god tend to have this story so that we can lay the foundation
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and begin discussion. That has been a little bit in the in the pre
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publishing face that was making me chuckle because you know, the basic idea,
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for example, is also a Danion experience, like let me let me tell
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you why. Because Danyan was a self described bad guy. He was in
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the army at the time he had his near death experience, and he grew
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up in the Bible belt, and he says he was anything but religious.
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And if anybody, he says, should have gone to Hell and would have
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been him because of how he had spent his life, and he himself found
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himself on the side of love and life and he was mean made to discover
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how much potential his heart had to love and how much spiritual power he had
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that he wasn't tapping into. So when he came back with that message,
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his whole life changed. And so I took that element in this book and
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I made Danion Danny Little Danny, And that's why he's a bully in the
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book, because it's taking you away from the idea that you earn access to
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heaven and that you have to be a you know, do good. You
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will live by a straight coode of conduct that fits into a religious perspective,
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but it's more about the quality of your heart and your spiritual nature. And
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so it's so funny because some people were really disappointed, like the traditional question
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perspective is like, well, that's at odds with that because there is a
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certain code of conduct that they want to follow in order to get there.
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And then there was people who read it and they said, you know,
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this is too Christian of a book because it said you can get into a
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place of good. And I was like, you know, everybody, it's
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not about that. It's not about reasoning people. It's really I think the
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fundamental nature of spirit is definitely signing through the book. There is a truth
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through spiritual dimension that's undeniable, and it is made of unconditional love. And
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when you get there, you don't necessarily get there through being a good person,
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but if you activate your heart and your spiritual power, you will find
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that. And if you haven't yet, you will find that. And either
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way you come back. Most people that have in there that experience come back
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with the knowing of what they're capable love and what the power of love really
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means, and how they want to create with God. And that's definitely coming
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through with this book. Oh for sure. Well, I love that you
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made Danny a bully. Actually I was happy that he was a bully,
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because part of Danny's journey is seeing how his bullying affected the other people around
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him, and what he got from it was he was still loved regardless of
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the fact that he was a bully or not, and it made him want
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to be better. When he returned to earth, he didn't want to be
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that anymore. And that I think is a profound message for all of us,
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but especially for children, right, especially for them who are going either
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either are being bullied or are a bully themselves. I mean, what a
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lesson for them, Like even if you are doing this, because I can't
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imagine a kid, even if they are a bully, do not feel some
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sense of shame inside themselves because you can't like yourself if you're a bully.
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You just can't, right, You don't. You don't love yourself, You
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don't like yourself. So knowing that there's still a place for you on the
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other side, right, thank you for pointing that out, because I totally
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agree. I feel that this book is meant to empower anybody who has the
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interest in reading it, because it's like, if you are a bully,
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yes, there's a reason why you're hurting inside, and now most of that
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is an external reason. Either conditions in your life haven't been favorable or people
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haven't been mean to you. Yourself, finding the power of your heart and
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your power to spiritual your spiritual power to create physically while you're here alive,
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could turn that around and people that already have a loving heart could just take
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it to the next level, you know. And I feel that they could
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see the effect that even a bully has on people and deserve the second chance.
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Obviously it's not even about deserving a second chance, and that sense,
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it does get away from the traditional Christian message because it's it's discovering the true
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nature of your being. And that's what most people will come back with in
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one form or another. We've had documented near death experience if they discover the
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true nature of themselves and it was never that pressed or or limited vision they
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had of themselves while they were just physical beings. There's something so much more
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profound in their hearts and in their being good they acts as and then bring
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back And so I'm now doing that through a kid die. Yeah, yeah,
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you're doing that through through a child's eye. So yeah, yeah.
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So what is really also is I love about the book is your artwork?
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And yeah, so your artwork, how does I'll just ask you the question,
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So, how does your artwork connect to the message in the book,
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Because your artwork tells its own story, even without reading the words trying to
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get the story right. It's so funny because that's been such a long journey,
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because you know, my mind was ready for their story, and then
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the rest of my old person had to kids up to the rest of it.
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And I think it was a lot of spiritual girls to myself with this
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book, because when I first had this idea, I was just becoming aware
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that I could be an artist. And it all happened because my neighbor moved.
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I was actually on the track for science and becoming a medical doctor,
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and I had my kids and I put it all on hold, and it
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started that bowl question, like what should I do? And in that phase,
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this book came through. And so my neighbor that moved and she had
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a video to set that said yes you could draw, and she goes,
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hey, would you like to share that with your kids? You could all
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study it together because you hold school. And I was like, oh my
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gosh, I remember I used to draw when I was a teen. And
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that's the hint that was like a clue from heaven, you know that that
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told me to pick up a pen. And I started picking up and I'll
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kid the portress. It was so funny because I remember now my name is
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Marie Internet, and I remember my first website at that time said here,
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I am Marie Antoinette drawing nothing but him the universe. I've such a sense
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to you. But you know, but anyway, it's a long story short.
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I evolved through my artwork and so there's guble renditions of this. But
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the main question that nagged me through all of it, because writing for children
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makes you really take accountability that you are honest and sincere and truth, so
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you don't feed them something that you know you say is going to help with
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their fears, but it isn't really you know, solid. I was really
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committed to making it a solid message of truth, and then I had this
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overwhelming nagging problem inside of me, like I haven't been to the other side
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officially in the same way that all these people hear that experience have and how
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do I know? And you know, I started wondering, and that was
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a really good question. Turned out to a good question because overall the asking
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and growing, I realize it isn't the literal mind that goes to the under
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side. It isn't the rational facts of us that need to have okaysitions,
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what buildings look like it some people look like that. It's obviously a world
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of vibration and frequence. And so what I then learned is that I had
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to capture the feeling of heaven and the love of heaven and the bright,
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abundant potential of all those energies. And that's what I ended up painting into
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the pictures. So it isn't that I'm telling you what heaven looks like,
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it said, I'm showing with the artwork what it would feel like, and
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hopefully that the prompt the reader to feel that and then spark their own inquiry.
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And there were memories and then they have their connection to take it from
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there. Yeah, well you accomplish that. So I have to say to
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work alone. Yeah, I mean, just looking at the rainbows and the
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way the rainbow like was behind them when the she sees is doc I can't.
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We'll get more until when we come back. I just looked at the
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time. So let's take a break here and then we'll talk more about that
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when we come back. So everybody stay tuned and I'll be back in just
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a few minutes with Marie Antoinette talking about more of this wonderful, wonderful book,
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Danny's Day in Heaven. Stay tuned and we'll be back, all right.
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So we're talking about your art work connecting to the message in the book.
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And I mean, obviously you guys have to buy the book to read
27:11
the book to see what I'm talking about. But but it's how you would
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picture. I mean, at least for me being an artist, especially with
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the color and everything. It's how I would picture, especially from a child's
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perspective, of what it would look like, right with the bright colors and
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the rainbows and heavens. And I loved that Danny gets to see his beloved
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dog who comes from Yeah, you know. So it was so healing from
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me. The message that you never lose who of what you love, because
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that's the nature of spirit, and you come back together. And that's so
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empowering because that is the whole foundation of our grief and our loss is that
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they're gone, we've lost them and we only can remember them. And that
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turned out to be not true. There's not just memories from the past.
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There's anticipation of the future, and that's really really healing for most people.
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Oh, my god. Yeah, well that you're knowing that your loved ones
28:08
are not lost to you forever there you're going to be reunited, right,
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And it's just like such a comforting message, and I imagine for children it
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must be really comforting because it is scary for all of us imagining losing our
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loved ones. I lost my sister last year, you know, and it's
28:29
been very hard. But I have a strong belief and knowing that we're going
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to be reunited again, so I don't have that added extra I'm never going
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to see her again, you know. I know. I'm even another level.
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I don't. I don't want to just think after we've die, we
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get to go back, because that's another subtler seeing for me. But this
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book is that my hope is that children who are very naturally very intuitive because
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they're rational mind is still just waking up on their teenagers and so so children
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have spiritual gifts and connection with people from the other side, and so now
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having a more natural context for that so they can share that idea with their
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loved ones, would possibly you know, enhance these connections so that you wouldn't,
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for example, have to wait to connect with your sister until you are
29:18
yourself on the other side. But there's a little moolments and Glimmer's name between
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it and that that actually brings me to a story because you know your show,
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it's Postcards from Universe, and I have a painting called Postcards from Heaven
29:30
and that is one of the main one of the really influential painting for me
29:34
in my journey to solidly coming to terms with the reality of the other side,
29:40
not through other people's stories but through my own, and it was from
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Is it okay if I tell that story? Absolutely? Oh yeah, please
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tell the story. I love These stories are my favorite because I get messages
29:52
from my sister all the time, like she's always doing I know we're still
29:56
connected. So yeah, please share your story. That's the whole idea,
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because I know how natural it is and that you know it also with me
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having been raised without real answers, and it became kind of like an US
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and them thing or perhaps or maybe, And it's really once you get passed
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that and understand that the other side of ourselves, it's so natural to let
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that part of your life about a big cola balue. And so as I
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went through that internal training myself. You know, I was struggling with these
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images over the course of the years, and how is going to capture that
30:23
feeling? And I felt like I needed to really get it from you know,
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some some first hand feedbacks from the other side. Well, I do
30:32
mostly portraits, and I paint portraits of people, and it terms out that
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it's really easy for me to capture them one day I've already passed away.
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It's probably because the ego is no longer interfering and their own personal you know,
30:42
inhibition but really part of their their own energy field anymore, which is
30:48
what I tune into when I paint them. So this person, all of
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a sudden, I had friends. They lived a door down from me,
30:55
and then for eight they had moved to Colorado and eight years, for eight
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years, I had spoken to them at all, or you know, lost
31:02
complete touch with them. And then I heard through the great fun that he
31:06
had died and that she was left behind. This is a couple, and
31:08
so I felt, you know, all of a sudden, is really warm,
31:11
the staltic feeling in my head, like oh, I used to know
31:15
them so well. I love that they are such cool people. I need
31:18
to paint them, and it became like this push and I need a painting,
31:22
I need to pay so and I felt some talent to paint his sports
31:26
with for his memorial service. So I went online and I found a photo
31:30
and I made it as a surprise for his wife. And so as I
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sat down, I felt really guided to pick meticulously for the first time over
31:38
my career and when my own skills were about evolving, I picked an entire
31:44
palette of colors before I even started, and it was also harmonious and precise,
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and I realis, gosh, that's you know, Stephen, the man
31:51
that I ended up painting, and he was so much like it. And
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I started to realize that he was very much influencing me, you know,
31:57
with his painting. So you about it my thing, because I came up
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with a beautiful portrait I was really moved by. There was a lot of
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you know, internal guidance from you know, I felt from him in terms
32:08
of color and just the energy of it. And I felt like at night
32:13
when I would go to sleep while I was working on this portrait, but
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I could come with him to travel through the you know, different demensions on
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the other side, and I see him with his wife, and I remember
32:23
to think the impression feeling like, oh, I don't want to come because
32:27
it's for you to show your wife. I don't belong in that, in
32:29
that mystery for the two of you. So that's the kind of my my
32:32
inner communications, which was really just still my personal way of relating to the
32:37
portrait. But then when the portrait was finished, I sent it to his
32:39
wife and put a memorial and it was a surprise to her. So of
32:43
course the brother the tears because it was so meaningful. But then this is
32:47
where it really hit the construes. She goes, Oh my gosh, she
32:51
goes, this is my postcard from heaven. Because Stephen was dying from cancer
32:55
and he had gotten closer to the end. He was consciously knowing he's going
33:00
to pass, and even though he had been very stracially minded, as he
33:04
got closer, he started a doubting all wasn't just lost me? Was he
33:07
just fircial thinking? And so they had made a pack together and they had
33:10
said, you know, should you find that you are still alive on the
33:14
other side and it isn't blackout, please send me a postcard. And this
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is what he had done. He had found out, and so I didn't
33:22
know anything about it because they lived, you know, ten hours away from
33:24
me, and so he had found me available for that postcard, and I
33:30
was like mine, I still feeling so much pressure to paint him, and
33:32
she put it all on the road. She said, that's why he committed
33:36
to sending me a postcard. And that was the beginning of really a cool
33:40
break. So because then I knew I was actually part of a really profound
33:44
spiritual communication between two people but didn't even left near me that I had no
33:47
knowledge of their conversations with And I got used for that, and that at
33:52
the beginning of me paying close attention to my internal experiences when I draw when
33:58
I paint, because you know, draw from the right brain, and you
34:00
get so into itive when I or I do when I when I paint.
34:04
And that was beginning of me really understanding how much communication happens from the spiritual
34:09
dimension that we tend to dismiss or rationalize and one explanations for, but it's
34:15
really part of our lives all the time. And that's kind of what I
34:19
am hoping as a secondary message besides just what happens when we die, to
34:22
establish in children. Heaven is a real place. It's a real spiritual vibration
34:30
and realm that we weave into our lives. And it's not out there somewhere
34:36
at some point in time, but it's here now and constantly supporting us.
34:39
Yeah. So it's almost like you're channeling without actually knowing that you're channeling from
34:46
the spirit right as you're painting, because you get into that energetic space,
34:52
you're vibration match, you're open. I get out of your own way,
34:58
because that's what all happens to us. We are always in our own way,
35:01
in our own head and our own ego. Right. So yeah,
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No, I love that. I love that that happens. I believe in
35:08
that wholeheartedly. I think we get messages all the time from heaven or the
35:15
universe or whatever people want to say, and I'm a big believer in that.
35:19
So I totally resonate with that story. And what a gift, What
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a gift to his wife. I mean, that is just it was.
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It was super a gift for all of us, because for me it was
35:29
the gift, especially since that started with you know, being afraid in the
35:32
first part of my life and then I started being a science students having a
35:36
clamped down rational mind. So it was all very liberating to realize the natural
35:39
place of it all. I was very healing for all of us, you
35:43
know, for them in a different way than for me, but it was
35:45
it was healing for all of us because it's continue to happen with other people.
35:49
And so I've got a lot of those stories now, and they gave
35:52
me the confidence to write this book to say, children, really, it
35:55
is inevitable that you're going to find out if you keep that voice alive and
36:00
just remember the feeling of heaven, the feeling of connectedness, a feeling of
36:05
inspiration and of intuition, and then that finds a place in your life.
36:09
And then then existentialism that you know teenagers are so plagued by, and that
36:15
so the rat race starts taking over. They won't have a grip. That's
36:19
my wish. That won't have the same grip on people they can have that
36:22
slow Yeah, yeah, have you when did your book? When was your
36:28
book released? What was that? Just a couple this June? Okay,
36:35
have you had any feedback from any parents yet who have read the story to
36:44
their own children. I know we're early, We're only in weight as well,
36:50
but they haven't had some obviously there's been something that like me that have
36:52
been afraid in having questioning and they're so confident. But it's so funny to
36:58
me that so far, the most insparring feeds I has swim from grown ups
37:01
because they themselves are like trying to grasp you know, all happen zhe we
37:07
die, and they kind of need a child's you know, children's books to
37:10
kind of you know, peak and get permission to go back to their own
37:14
you know, playful in nature, I suppose about it. So it is
37:17
heavy, but but I've had people saying, oh my god, everybody,
37:22
you know, this needs to be like a textbook in school so that people
37:24
can just free. And it's not because I don't think it's so much the
37:30
book itself, even though I did my very best with it. It's the
37:32
concept that we can really talk about what happens when we die, and then
37:36
it's a colorful, supportive experience because we've only looked at it from our physical
37:40
reality, which is loss and bleakness. And I'm not diminishing the grief because
37:46
there's some real tragic circumstances that people really have to process. But if that
37:52
other side is just constantly, you know, glimmering through, and if that
37:57
has more conversation done, I think we begin to have a new approach to
38:01
death and make it, yeah, find its proper place, because you know,
38:06
none of it's get out of here alive. So not last, not
38:10
last, I heard, right. But it's funny how adults want to see
38:16
this book. They want to bring it to their kids, and oh,
38:20
yeah, I have grandkids do it. And my little grandson he's so cute.
38:24
He looks at all the pages and he's just like, there's golden Land,
38:29
and there's golden Land again, and just so natural. You really can't
38:35
that they recognize the feeling of it like a part of their being and are
38:40
noticed they remember a lot of them remember, right, because they're not too
38:45
far since they've been on this planet from being there. It's like when we're
38:47
older, we're like, yeah, we get crotchety and cynical. And actually
38:54
noticed that the grown ups are having the big healing a hat because they're bring
39:00
us well and they're finding positivity in a way that they haven't kept it alive.
39:05
So it's interesting. It seems to be affecting whoever reads it, so
39:08
I'll see more. Yeah you will. Well, since it's only been basically,
39:14
what two three months already, you're gonna I'm sure you're going to see
39:16
more and more. And what is some of the reactions from your children,
39:25
like your own children, was it like just like oh, mom, I'm
39:29
not surprised you did this, Like this is just you know, we grew
39:31
up talking about this kind of stuff, so of course you would do something
39:35
like this your family. But funny how you're you're teaching manifesting and everything.
39:40
But there was like several phases of this book that I really I told you
39:45
it was like my life journey to grow up and let my you know,
39:47
a spiritual nature kind of integrate with my physical self, because I wanted in
39:52
the beginning to get this book out. But I realized now that it was
39:55
more of an ego based statement like look, this should go out there.
40:00
It healed me. Whatever. It was more about I can do it,
40:01
and and it was very much blocked every step of the way. It was
40:06
just the timing wasn't right or it just didn't find another to the point that
40:08
I got actually really frustrated with it. And I realized that I didn't want
40:14
to do any more of it. I parked it on the shell. And
40:17
it was funny because I had I had a true desire to get it out
40:21
there, but I was trying to make it on my own effort and it
40:23
wasn't succeeding. And so it was a manifesting lesson for me that led it
40:28
up to God or the universal Spirit, however you relate to it and let
40:32
it find its journey with the right timing. And then I ended up becoming
40:37
the artist for an Angel Quest Oracle Deck with Karen KnowI, who was an
40:40
angel medium, and that one thing led to the next, and then this
40:45
book just resurfed it all in its own just like my husband mentioned it and
40:50
the publicistuff, can we see it. Three days later I had the contract
40:52
when it was just like bam, it was like, oh my god,
40:54
here, yeah. I had let it go so completely that it was clearly
41:02
the book needing to go out for the message that it has for people.
41:07
At that point it had nothing to do with me anymore. But at the
41:09
same time I had had enough of a rich life journey to understand that I
41:15
was also living its message and it wasn't it wasn't a book that you know,
41:20
has to tell any one person's story. It was a book that talks
41:22
about the reality of a spiritual relment and the lives are existent, and it
41:27
was getting me out of the way, and then it was getting published on
41:30
its own kind of feeling. I love it. Well, that's how it
41:34
happens. Because when we're trying to force something and we're not either we're not
41:38
ready for it, or it's not ready, or the world isn't ready.
41:44
You know, we think we know better, right, And that's when you
41:46
do you have to take a step back and you have to say, you
41:49
know what, I just gotta say, Okay, universe, sorry, God,
41:53
I'm open to whatever. I am not yea. And that one part
42:00
of it, if I had it though, I had to actually let the
42:02
book die. And that's funny because yeah, I believe you. Yeah you
42:09
have to because you don't know the big impact. See you don't. You
42:15
don't see the impact of your work. You'll never see the full impact of
42:20
your work. All you know is your job was to create it, put
42:23
it out there and let it go and whatever wherever it's meant to fly is
42:28
where it's meant to fly. And it may not. It may not have
42:30
been the right time. Like that's why I always say when people who make
42:34
postcards and they're like, why it's not happening or it hasn't it Like there's
42:38
a reason. Just have trust and divine timing is really essential. So let
42:45
God or the universe or your angels or whatever you believe, work on the
42:49
when and the how, and you just keep going on with your life.
42:52
Right, and you know it's true. And for so much of that,
42:58
it's it's nice feedback and nice you know, confidence building, you know,
43:04
lessons, but I wasn't living them. I had to actually learned to have
43:07
the trust. I had to actually learned to let the book go. And
43:10
so I couldn't just intellectually say oh, yeah, I'll just trust because I
43:15
wasn't, you know. I had to let it go and then it found
43:16
its own expression. So that was really good for me to realize that I
43:21
had to learn to understand what the book was about for my own life,
43:27
through my own life experience. So yeah, yeah, you have to do
43:30
that. Like when my book came out, it came out right before COVID,
43:34
so the timing was not good. Right, So now we're three and
43:37
a half years later, and then one day, all of a sudden,
43:40
somebody said something in my head and said, you should read the book on
43:44
you should start reading some of it. You should read it, just read
43:45
it online, just read it, put on social media, and I went,
43:47
all right, I don't know where. So I just decided to because
43:52
whoever needs to hear what I put in the book that I want to talk
43:57
about is going to get the message. And that's the person who needs to
43:59
hear it. And however they're going to hear it from there, you know,
44:01
And I'm just like, yeah, okay, I'm going to trust that
44:05
because that's how Postcards to the Universe was born. I heard it. It
44:07
just came to me one day and I just started from there. And it
44:10
hasn't led me astray, you know, It's always hit me exactly where I
44:15
need to go. So I've gotten it's right. I love that exactly.
44:22
It's on its own journey and I'm following the clues. I'm gonna take that
44:28
if you don't mind, I'm gonna use at all. I mean, that's
44:30
how I've experienced it to and I'm really beautiful to surrender myself to that.
44:36
So that I don't have that all the answers up front anymore, and I
44:38
can kind of stay aware and and like we just said, follow the journey
44:43
and follow the clues. Beautiful your journey. Good good good. So you
44:50
mentioned something about doing the Angel Quest. So I was going to ask you
44:53
how you became an illustrator doing these angel oracles because they sound really really interesting.
45:01
I love oracle decks. I am like, oh, well, I'm
45:05
a I'm a collector. I don't even necessarily need to know how the oracles
45:09
work. I just like I'll see them and I'm like, oh, I
45:12
need another set, you know. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually a
45:15
really educational process for me as well, because it taught me I was I
45:20
was contracted to make all the artwork. And then Karen Knowe is the angel
45:23
medium from New Jersey. You have the two year waiting list, and so
45:27
she realized that she didn't have a deck of her own, and she's confully
45:30
interacting, and so she came up with the words, and she's the one
45:34
who contracted me. It was a Sunday morning. I remember she woke up
45:37
in the morning and she felt that the angels had told her she she knew
45:40
of me because she had used my husband as a publicist for her previous books,
45:45
and so the angels put her an inspiration in her heart that she needed
45:49
to contact me. So I got that message and I was like, oh
45:52
my god, that's been what I've been wanting to do. I've just been
45:54
noa too. So the two made a match and we got to work,
45:58
and it was really good learning process because that in itself is a lot of
46:04
I struggle with that same question, who am I to paint all these angel
46:08
messages when I don't know for sure, like what it really embodies. So
46:14
I made sure that every time I had that feeling, I would go to
46:16
the place inside of me where I knew its experiences. So the beck is
46:21
really coming from a place of almost like what we're looking for, like like
46:27
symbolism or just a message that holds an energy again, so that it reminds
46:31
you of the energy from the other side, rather than it traditionally depicts just
46:37
angels, because so many people have interpreted angels, and who are we to
46:40
say this is what they look like and that's what they look like. So
46:43
it's very much about I believe the spirit. The language of spirit is the
46:46
language of symbolism, and so it has a lot of symbolism in the art
46:51
work, and so each artwork, each piece of art, can really take
46:54
on its message to that level. But there was a point in it that
46:57
we really both that stuck, and so she would take that to her altar
47:00
and then get a message from the angel you'll be working with. Like that
47:05
was for us, you know, like one of us happens, it's like
47:07
it's time to break through your your own hang up and let your artwork.
47:10
You know, that's sort of stuff. And so it was like move us
47:14
through the feelings. And what the beautiful thing of it was is that at
47:16
the end when the deck came out, which is just reasoned asolve about a
47:20
year and a half ago, I got it at home and I pulled it
47:24
out and I used it with my whole family. Every person got a message
47:28
that was so spun on and I realized, oh my god, it had
47:30
gotten bigger than the sum of its part. It was not your artwork and
47:35
beautiful messages. It had taken on the life that really conveyed the truth of
47:38
spirit and the support of your angel network and the support of your own higher
47:44
self. And it was exciting. I realized that we are just players in
47:47
a bigger in a bigger universe, and that you know, we're being used
47:52
for our talents to get positivity into the world and to get people inspired to
47:57
find their gifts and their connection spirit. I love that I'm actually in process
48:04
of creating my own oracle deck with my own phone. Oh cool, it's
48:07
exciting. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it is. But it's
48:14
it's it's interesting. So I'm just curious, like, what is your process?
48:16
So like when you sat down as an artist, and people who are
48:20
listening who are artists, like, what's your process? Like when you were
48:22
creating this, did you feel like you were getting like the angels were talking
48:27
to you directly and saying, branching it, I want this to look like
48:30
this, Like is that how you felt it was going through you when you
48:34
were doing these That's a little bit of both. It was definitely I experienced
48:38
a lot of my dreams. My dreams are very neat to them, so
48:42
I do get messages through that, and so some of the paintings I got
48:45
direct on like, you know, images of what I needed to paint or
48:50
what it needed to feel like. Other other because there's forty four cars in
48:53
here. So they didn't all happen like that. Some of them was just
48:57
me paying attention to, like when I was struggling with in my life and
49:00
then how I'm breaking through it. And it was always, you know,
49:04
because I have a developed language of working with you know, spirituality and symbolism,
49:08
and so I would pay attention to what got me through, and I
49:12
feel that the support of the ables behind that. So those are the more
49:15
more abstract or psychological images perhaps, but they all they are all definitely experienced
49:22
firsthand. Everyone from young m Nice Nice I mean just just beautiful. Well
49:28
I can see that from your work. If you check out her website,
49:30
you will see her style of art, and I could see how that that's
49:36
your that would happen, Those insights would come to you, and that inspiration
49:42
mapping it out with you, and then inevitably you get stuck, right You're
49:45
like tokaying now, this is only taking it so far, and then comes
49:49
to point where you just have to let it go and any inspiration comes flotting
49:52
in to just take it to the next level. And that's kind of how
49:55
my process happens. It's like you know, birth of anything. You know,
50:00
you are creative. Yeah, it's it's hard to describe, like when
50:02
people say, like, well, what makes you photograph? Whatever? How
50:07
you photograph? And I can't really put it in words. It's just I
50:10
don't know. I just get called things come to me ideas and I it's
50:15
like more it's become more intuitive now, so it's like I can't really describe
50:21
it. And yeah, in like a physical sense. And yeah, sometime
50:23
you would use your left brain with everything you know about photography and how of
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course brain right, Yeah, yeah, it really is. So what other
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messages do you want the listeners to get today from about you, about the
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work that you do, about your latest book, Yeah, Danny's Day in
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Heaven and d ease, Like, what do you want to leave us with?
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Because we only have to think like five minutes, So I want to
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make sure you get to share your message. I know we can talk for
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like hours, Okay, get it. It's really fun. Well that's a
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big question. But I suppose the same way because we talked about that how
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this is really just we are participating in this journey and that this book and
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the Angel back and you know especially this book. They anything and have It's
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meant to help us remember how powerful we are from our own spiritual perspective and
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how we are guided by God, angels and higher selves, you know,
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the spiritual realm, to make our lives work, to make our gifts matter,
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to make you know, our contributions that we I think we envisioned,
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you know, before we even got bored, and then you know, when
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the world takes over, we kind of forget a little bit. So I'm
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hoping that my work and any of those images will will prompt the confidence in
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them in the listener to grow and to feel their own potential and to you
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know, to activate their own spiritual connection to a new level so they can
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contribute what their heart wants to contribute. So that's what I feel like,
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I learn and I enjoy myself. Yeah good, And I wish for children,
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So that's yeah, especially when fear, because fear is one of the
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worst that blocks everything, that blocks your creativity, of blocks your freedom love
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and live. That's what the main thrust is. Please don't be afraid of
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death. Death is a doorway and it's nothing to be afraid of because you
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don't lose your transform, you transform into love, light, and consciousness and
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you stay yourself, but you can't take your physical body with you. Where
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can anybody who dies? But that's the extentiment. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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what do you think about your dream? Yeah? What is your dream
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for your book? What do you what do you imagine? Where do you
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imagine it could go? What do you imagine doing with it? Or that
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you could do well? In all honesty, when when I had to let
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it die, you know, that's about two years ago, I gave up
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the dreams with it because I realized that the book had to find it only
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and now that it found its way out, it's kind of like your kids.
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You know, you don't dream all the dreams for your kids. You
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let your kids find the dreams. So I haven't taken it back to that
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level. But of course, am I wish is that everybody in the rope
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guest to read it, don't say all the words the fear of death,
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and we could start creating from that place of love and wonder and that would
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make the road such a cool place. So I would hope that it could
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take it in that direction. But ill honestly, I've let it go a
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little bit because the book and what I said before. I'm surprised that,
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you know, I'm loving it at the time is now because with all the
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COVID and all the detrustion and the darkness out there, I'm loving it this
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at the right time, and that the book has finally found its way into
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the world so that people can feel as comfort. I hope that that it
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comforts people. Well, yeah, and I don't see how. I mean,
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it's very it's very easy to read. I'm what's what's the I'm as
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far as for publishers, what's the what is the age range of this book?
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I mean, anybody can read it, but publishers like, yeah,
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publishers like to have like, Okay, it's for this group, you know,
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that's how they market it. Yeah, so officially it's the six to
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ten year olds, but it's really for people of all ages. And I
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suppose my dream answering that question, my dream is said it becomes a staple
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on everybody's bookshelf. So yeah, we can embrace the power of our own
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spirit and face the fear of death and begin creating the love that we have.
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Yeah, it would be great if it was you know, in schools,
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if kids could read it right well and then they could have a discussion
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with each other and a teacher. Yeah, that would be really really good.
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I think so too, because not only is it about not being afraid
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of what happens after we die, it also has a great message for kids
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who are being bullieder who are bullying, and that's a big problem at schools.
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So it's like a double edge, right, Yeah, thank you.
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I like that. Thank you, moving, I appriculate that. That's awesome.
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I like that too. Okay, So, Marie, what's the best
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way for people to get in touch with Well, I have a website that
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has my email on it, and that's, like you mentioned earlier, at
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m Aka fine art dot com m AK it's my initials. But yeah,
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I could stand from me and so I'm I'm also on Instagram and Facebook from
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those handles m ak fine Arts hashtags, I guess, and yeah, that
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will be great. Great. Well, I was such a pleasure. So
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guy, thank you, thank you, thank you, and thank you for
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listening to Postcards to the Universe with Melissa creating the life you crave. And
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I'm wishing everyone a wonderful week filled with joy, abundance and love. Peace. Ho