Latest / The Skol Hop / Stupid Beer, Luka and the Lakers, Kupp to the Vikings (Guest Dustin Baker) | TSH Ep. 78
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of The School Hot. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're
- 0:06Speaker 1: just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
- 0:08Speaker 1: beer talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Absolutely, And on episode seventy eight of the School Hot Podcast,
- 0:13Speaker 2: which is still crazy to think, tonight, we tried a
- 0:17Speaker 2: mega cake stupid beer or sour I guess from Reunion
- 0:21Speaker 2: Brewery and it ended up being pretty interesting.
- 0:24Speaker 3: I liked it.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, we'll seek this out again. And for the
- 0:27Speaker 1: first time in quite a while, we reconnected with an
- 0:32Speaker 1: old friend of the show, Dustin Baker.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was too long. I think it was
- 0:36Speaker 2: almost a couple of months since we talked to him before.
- 0:40Speaker 2: But we got his takes on the Sam Darnold situation,
- 0:43Speaker 2: Cooper Cup situation, and really just some intriguing Vikings free
- 0:48Speaker 2: agent prospects this offseason.
- 0:50Speaker 1: Yeah, So, wherever you are and whatever you enjoy drinking,
- 0:54Speaker 1: grab a cold one and join us.
- 0:56Speaker 3: School School.
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- 3:00Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate you guys. All right, well, I brought the beer.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And this is a beer that I referenced last week.
- 3:07Speaker 1: And I don't know that I referenced the name.
- 3:09Speaker 2: I think you you either showed it to me or
- 3:12Speaker 2: I think you said it on the podcast.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Maybe I did, but I just I've looked at this beer.
- 3:17Speaker 1: This is like, this is like squints at the pool,
- 3:23Speaker 1: staring at Wendy Peppercorn for however long, and finally.
- 3:26Speaker 3: You just you do it.
- 3:28Speaker 1: You just do it. You just go for it. You
- 3:30Speaker 1: dive in the deep end, you drown, and she pulls
- 3:32Speaker 1: you out of the water and saves your life, saves
- 3:35Speaker 1: your life in many ways. Yeah, So this beer has
- 3:38Speaker 1: been just staring at me on the shelf for probably
- 3:41Speaker 1: over a year. It's been like a while, like for
- 3:44Speaker 1: as long as we've been recording the podcast, I can
- 3:47Speaker 1: remember this beer sitting on the shelf at high ve'y
- 3:50Speaker 1: hopefully not this exact beer. Oh yeah, it'll be too long.
- 3:52Speaker 1: But it's Reunion's Mega Cake stupid dessert sour.
- 3:58Speaker 2: Yeah, it says it's a blueberry rab very mega purple
- 4:01Speaker 2: lactose oats, cinnamon, and vanilla sour. So that's not crazy.
- 4:08Speaker 2: That's not mega cake stupid dessert sour. Then I don't
- 4:11Speaker 2: know what is. And maybe that says something about me,
- 4:15Speaker 2: because you said you've been staring at this beer forever.
- 4:18Speaker 2: We shop mostly, we shop pretty most of our beer
- 4:21Speaker 2: at the same place. I couldn't tell you I've ever
- 4:24Speaker 2: seen this can before. Maybe I just have looked at
- 4:27Speaker 2: this amazing, crazy artwork and it's so crazy that I've
- 4:32Speaker 2: just tuned it out of my brain and totally looked
- 4:34Speaker 2: over it. So if not for you, I probably would
- 4:37Speaker 2: never have tried this. I'm kind of excited.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Let's pour this up. Let's see what it looks like.
- 4:41Speaker 1: First of all, it actually kind of looks like upon
- 4:45Speaker 1: first poor, like one of our more recent beers. It
- 4:49Speaker 1: kind of looks like the Big Grove. What was the
- 4:54Speaker 1: sour beer that we had from Big Grove a few.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Weeks at the into the woods that it woods. Yeah,
- 4:58Speaker 2: that was just last week with the last week. Yeah,
- 5:01Speaker 2: oh it's uh.
- 5:02Speaker 1: You probably can't see it on camera, but there's a
- 5:04Speaker 1: ton of sediment in this, like it's it's hazy. It's
- 5:08Speaker 1: not transparent at all. It's kind of purply, which makes
- 5:12Speaker 1: sense with like the blueberry and stuff. But there is
- 5:14Speaker 1: like sediment for days, which is not a bad thing. No,
- 5:17Speaker 1: it's just an unfiltered unfiltered this is this is crazy.
- 5:21Speaker 1: The more I think about this, it's crazy. I'm excited.
- 5:23Speaker 1: We just need to dive in.
- 5:24Speaker 2: The smell test is pretty good to Yeah, alright, so
- 5:27Speaker 2: it's cool. Hmm, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's interesting.
- 5:39Speaker 1: I like that a lot. It's not that sour, No,
- 5:41Speaker 1: it's got hart to it. It's tart. It's kind of
- 5:45Speaker 1: like a sweet tart, like a candy sweet tart almost.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Yeah, so pretty good.
- 5:49Speaker 2: When I go for candy, I go for the chocolate
- 5:51Speaker 2: stuff pretty much, or.
- 5:52Speaker 3: The caramel stuff.
- 5:53Speaker 1: I go for the sugary.
- 5:54Speaker 2: This is definitely in that sugary sweet stuff category, which
- 5:57Speaker 2: is fine. This is like a skittle on steroids in
- 6:01Speaker 2: a sour There's nothing bad about it. I mean it's
- 6:05Speaker 2: not my typical beer of choice to go running after.
- 6:10Speaker 2: But I mean nothing about this is gross. It's very sweet,
- 6:14Speaker 2: very candy.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Like I think the name.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Is very apt, Mega cake, stupid dessert sour. That's a mouthful,
- 6:22Speaker 2: and this beer I like a party in a can.
- 6:25Speaker 1: I can taste everything in it. I can taste the
- 6:27Speaker 1: blueberry raspberry, I can taste the oats and cinnamon, and
- 6:31Speaker 1: I can taste the vanilla. You got a little bit
- 6:33Speaker 1: of that cake like type of vibe to it.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty good.
- 6:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
- 6:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. The reasons it kept intimidating me
- 6:41Speaker 1: at the store was because I was scared of it,
- 6:43Speaker 1: Like I was just like, I don't want to try that,
- 6:45Speaker 1: and eventually we were gonna have to try it because
- 6:48Speaker 1: we're we're running thin on Iowa beers at our local spot.
- 6:51Speaker 1: So if you're out there and you know of some
- 6:53Speaker 1: good Iowa beer, or if you want to send us
- 6:55Speaker 1: some Iowa beer, let us know, because we'll definitely take
- 6:58Speaker 1: you up on that offer. Oh yeah, that'd be great.
- 7:00Speaker 1: But Reunion, this is a really good beer, yeah, and
- 7:02Speaker 1: one that I would try again.
- 7:04Speaker 2: To be truthful, I don't know if I'm gonna actively
- 7:07Speaker 2: seek this one out again. We've got a few that
- 7:09Speaker 2: we're gonna have tonight. Like I said, there's nothing bad
- 7:12Speaker 2: about this. It's really sweet. It's a sour. This is
- 7:16Speaker 2: like definitely what I would think of as like the
- 7:18Speaker 2: category of sours. I mean again, it's not actually sour.
- 7:21Speaker 2: It's like a sweet beer. But it's fine. I mean,
- 7:25Speaker 2: I could see this being somebody's favorite beer. Yeah, and
- 7:28Speaker 2: I'm sure somebody out there loves it. So thank you
- 7:31Speaker 2: for bringing it ov. I'm glad I've tried it. I
- 7:34Speaker 2: probably won't actively seek it out again, but that's just me.
- 7:38Speaker 2: I'm glad you really enjoy it.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna enjoy the others.
- 7:42Speaker 2: I'm gonna enjoy the others as well. Do we say
- 7:44Speaker 2: what the percentage is?
- 7:45Speaker 1: I looked on the can and I couldn't find it,
- 7:47Speaker 1: so just a Google search might eyield that. But it
- 7:50Speaker 1: doesn't taste super boozy to me, so yeah, I don't know.
- 7:54Speaker 1: It's just it's good. I like it in I don't know,
- 7:57Speaker 1: in the sweet category, I gravitate away from chocolate and
- 8:00Speaker 1: more towards this kind of thing.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Yeah, Before we move on, I do want to read
- 8:05Speaker 2: the description because I just found it. Found it trying
- 8:07Speaker 2: to find the the ABV. Couldn't find the ABV. But
- 8:11Speaker 2: the description is description pending, too stupid to describe cake
- 8:17Speaker 2: maybe sour, yes, mega purple probably, And that's it. That's
- 8:22Speaker 2: all Reunion says about this one.
- 8:24Speaker 3: So there you go.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It's a it's an experience. It's a fun experience.
- 8:28Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm doing it. Thank you, Reunion.
- 8:30Speaker 1: Well, if you can get your hands on some mega
- 8:33Speaker 1: cake stupid dessert sour, you have to look at it
- 8:36Speaker 1: every time because there's no way to memorize that title.
- 8:39Speaker 1: You can get your hands on some. I would recommend it. It
- 8:42Speaker 1: sounds like you would maybe recommend it once, but not twice.
- 8:45Speaker 2: Definitely try it, Definitely make sure it's it's something you
- 8:48Speaker 2: want to try, because again, there's nothing bad about it,
- 8:52Speaker 2: there's nothing gross. It's it's somebody's favorite beer. I'm sure
- 8:56Speaker 2: of it.
- 8:56Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:57Speaker 1: All right, Well we're gonna end this segment here and
- 9:00Speaker 1: the next time you see us, we're gonna be chatting
- 9:02Speaker 1: with good friend of the show, Dustin Baker.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Yeah it's been a minute.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Yeah, so excited to have him back on. Who knows
- 9:09Speaker 1: what we'll talk about I'm sure a myriad of things
- 9:13Speaker 1: will pop up in our discussion. It's always fun, though
- 9:16Speaker 1: always enjoyable to have him on. So we're gonna cut
- 9:19Speaker 1: this short here and get to that content here in
- 9:23Speaker 1: just a second school school, all.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Right, welcome back to skull Hoppers. If you were watching
- 9:29Speaker 2: rather than listening to us, you'll see a familiar face
- 9:32Speaker 2: we got front of the show, Dustin Baker here again.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Thanks for coming back on, Dustin. It's been a minute.
- 9:37Speaker 2: So I think early December was the last time you
- 9:39Speaker 2: were on, and we had you and Yanick on, which
- 9:42Speaker 2: was a really good time. And we kind of missed
- 9:44Speaker 2: our early January time, but that's okay. Nothing good in
- 9:47Speaker 2: Vikings world happened in early January. So here we are
- 9:51Speaker 2: right before the super Bowl. So yeah, thanks again for
- 9:54Speaker 2: coming on. We're really excited. Yeah, it's an honor to
- 9:56Speaker 2: be back. And I think we were all deflated really
- 9:59Speaker 2: a lot by the Rams game because I really didn't
- 10:02Speaker 2: think the Vikings would use the final two games when
- 10:05Speaker 2: it mattered the most to just disappoint to have their
- 10:08Speaker 2: worst two games. I did not foresee that coming. We're
- 10:10Speaker 2: not immune into the Vikings doing shit like that, but
- 10:12Speaker 2: I didn't think this team had it in them, So
- 10:15Speaker 2: I'm glad to be back after the warts of that
- 10:18Speaker 2: loss We've got. We've got about a month between us now,
- 10:20Speaker 2: between that and so we can preview the offseason. I'm
- 10:22Speaker 2: also really enthused about sports because Lebron James is my
- 10:26Speaker 2: guy and the Lakers just had the sweet trade Saturday
- 10:29Speaker 2: night to give him, to give him some life, to
- 10:31Speaker 2: maybe win him one more championship or two. So I'm
- 10:34Speaker 2: super super excited about sports in general because the Lakers
- 10:37Speaker 2: got Luca Dodges. Yeah, it talk about, like, I don't know,
- 10:42Speaker 2: in sports, a bigger trade before that. I mean, obviously
- 10:46Speaker 2: Vikings fans know about the Herschel Walker trade, but like
- 10:49Speaker 2: it feels like that level of trade, like franchise, multiple
- 10:55Speaker 2: franchise altering pieces. Evan, I don't know if you followed
- 10:58Speaker 2: that at all.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, well I would ask, because you've probably followed
- 11:01Speaker 1: it more than we have, Dustin, Is it a big
- 11:05Speaker 1: I mean, are the Lakers now championship contenders with Luca
- 11:10Speaker 1: on their roster as opposed to not?
- 11:12Speaker 3: Well?
- 11:13Speaker 2: To me, so, I've been a Lebron fan since the jump,
- 11:15Speaker 2: Since two thousand and three, when Michael Jordan retired from
- 11:18Speaker 2: the Wizards. He was my guy, like most of the
- 11:20Speaker 2: world was, and I needed a new guy. So I
- 11:23Speaker 2: looked around the landscape with the NBA and I was like, well,
- 11:25Speaker 2: Lebron James is coming out. Let's check him out. And
- 11:27Speaker 2: from the very first game, I was hooked. So I
- 11:31Speaker 2: would tell you that until Saturday Night, this Lakers experiment
- 11:35Speaker 2: had grown stale. I did not expect them to win
- 11:37Speaker 2: the CHIP this year, but I will tell you that
- 11:39Speaker 2: Luke on the scene gives me new hope and new life.
- 11:43Speaker 2: The like the Celtics were probably the front runner win
- 11:45Speaker 2: and all the thunder are really good, but all of
- 11:47Speaker 2: a sudden, there's some an injection of change on the
- 11:51Speaker 2: Lakers roster. And the way that we'll kind of look
- 11:54Speaker 2: at it is if they don't get to the championship
- 11:56Speaker 2: or win it, we'll say, well, yeah, they didn't have
- 11:58Speaker 2: enough defense. They traded Anthony Davis, I didn't have a
- 12:00Speaker 2: big man. However, if they if they win it, somehow,
- 12:02Speaker 2: we'll look at each other and be like, they had
- 12:04Speaker 2: Lebron James and Luca Dodgers, of course they were going
- 12:06Speaker 2: to win. So yeah, that's where I'm at right now.
- 12:09Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't put money on the Lakers to win it,
- 12:11Speaker 2: but I am personally a lot more reinvigorated than I
- 12:15Speaker 2: was last weekend. The Lakers, even without Luca, are playing
- 12:17Speaker 2: quite well. They're like the fifth seed in the West.
- 12:19Speaker 2: So that is my basketball spiel for the group to night. Yeah,
- 12:22Speaker 2: I was gonna say it still counts because the Lakers
- 12:24Speaker 2: wear purple and gold and they used to be in Minnesota,
- 12:27Speaker 2: so we're still on track. Schoolhoppers, don't worry. I did
- 12:32Speaker 2: want to mention too, not to sit in the terrible
- 12:35Speaker 2: depression of the end of the twenty four Viking season.
- 12:38Speaker 2: But isn't it just another thing on the list as
- 12:42Speaker 2: most Vikings things ever for this very promising team that
- 12:46Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to do anything at all, to only lose
- 12:48Speaker 2: to two teams all season and it just happened to
- 12:51Speaker 2: be back to back each time, and when it mattered
- 12:54Speaker 2: the most. That's that's again another most Vikings thing ever
- 12:58Speaker 2: to happen. Yeah, it's great. It was perfectly symmetrical. They
- 13:01Speaker 2: lost to the Lions, Rams, and then the Lions and
- 13:04Speaker 2: the Rams, and I don't think there's an underlying good
- 13:08Speaker 2: reason for it. Those each loss was really different. In fact,
- 13:12Speaker 2: the very first loss to the Lions, I walked out
- 13:14Speaker 2: of the Vikings game excited. I was like, Hey, we
- 13:16Speaker 2: only lost like two points.
- 13:18Speaker 1: Man.
- 13:18Speaker 2: I was like, I've never walked out of this building
- 13:20Speaker 2: enthused about a loss, and that feels like a million
- 13:22Speaker 2: years ago. Now within the last two games, I cannot
- 13:25Speaker 2: believe that Sam Donald absolutely folded, crumbled, collapse, capitulated. And
- 13:31Speaker 2: I know it's not on his fault. He probably could
- 13:34Speaker 2: have got a little bit more help from the interior
- 13:35Speaker 2: offensive line, but that guy had seen blitzes throughout the
- 13:39Speaker 2: season and he had manhandled him personally. So I went
- 13:43Speaker 2: back to the way that I was thinking about Donald
- 13:45Speaker 2: last March. So when they signed him, I was like, yay,
- 13:49Speaker 2: I do think that he can be decent around the NFL.
- 13:51Speaker 2: Hopefully he goes to the Seahawks or the Raiders something
- 13:53Speaker 2: like that. But you could put me on record, I
- 13:55Speaker 2: do not want that guy back again, mainly because I
- 13:59Speaker 2: know he's gonna look great training camp. I know he's
- 14:01Speaker 2: gonna be a preseason god. He'll probably play great for
- 14:04Speaker 2: the regular season, but I don't want to wait a
- 14:07Speaker 2: whole year to figure out, all right, is the guy
- 14:09Speaker 2: gonna implode in the playoffs, and then if he does,
- 14:11Speaker 2: you've set the franchise back two years. So although I
- 14:15Speaker 2: respect Darnold, I cannot believe what he did. Generally, speaking
- 14:18Speaker 2: for the Vikings, I am so ready for him to
- 14:20Speaker 2: be gone and just give me a McCarthy and give
- 14:23Speaker 2: me a normal backup Daniel Jones since he's already kind
- 14:26Speaker 2: of on the practice squad, or Nick Mullins. Again, there
- 14:28Speaker 2: are so many backup quarterbacks that the Vikings can can
- 14:31Speaker 2: get because we have a quarterback whisperer. Yeah, if we
- 14:34Speaker 2: could pause and take the last fifteen seconds of what
- 14:37Speaker 2: you just said starting with give me a normal backup
- 14:40Speaker 2: and then play and like send that clip back in
- 14:42Speaker 2: time a year or even two years and be like,
- 14:45Speaker 2: give me a normal backup like Daniel Jones, Like, can
- 14:48Speaker 2: you imagine Vikings Twitter would implode? Yeah? Well, well, hey,
- 14:53Speaker 2: me being a Daniel Jones guy would be really weird
- 14:55Speaker 2: than be Daniel Jones being just some moron who's a
- 14:59Speaker 2: QB two. So it's yeah, all have a mighty have
- 15:01Speaker 2: fallen type of thing. But yeah, like I said, I
- 15:04Speaker 2: don't have a huge like grievance with Sam Donald. If
- 15:08Speaker 2: they find a way to bring him back. Of course,
- 15:10Speaker 2: I'll find a way to support it. But you've got
- 15:13Speaker 2: four years to get this right, gentleman. Before JJ McCarthy
- 15:16Speaker 2: would demand a giant contract if he's good in the
- 15:18Speaker 2: first place, and I don't want to waste it on
- 15:21Speaker 2: another year of Hey, we're letting our guy im mature.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Because Donald won fourteen game, I really hope they'll go
- 15:25Speaker 2: down that avenue and I don't think they will. Yeah, well,
- 15:29Speaker 2: I guess. So we didn't have kind of an order
- 15:31Speaker 2: of questions we were going to ask you, but it
- 15:33Speaker 2: seems like we're naturally transitioning into like the fourth question
- 15:36Speaker 2: we were going to ask you. So as an on
- 15:39Speaker 2: air production meeting, I feel like we should just flop
- 15:41Speaker 2: things around here really quick.
- 15:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree. And I don't know that there's
- 15:47Speaker 1: really a bigger question, And I don't know that there
- 15:49Speaker 1: has been a bigger question in Vikings off season since
- 15:54Speaker 1: last year, like well, no, for like a few years now,
- 15:58Speaker 1: like it's just been this kind of ongoing saga of
- 16:01Speaker 1: who's going to be the quarterback and what's going to happen.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Last year, it was okay, what's gonna happen with Kirk
- 16:06Speaker 1: and this year it's okay, Sam Donald played really well,
- 16:10Speaker 1: but he collapsed.
- 16:11Speaker 3: At the end.
- 16:12Speaker 1: What's going to happen?
- 16:13Speaker 2: So yeah, So I guess the question we want to
- 16:16Speaker 2: bring to you, Dustin is you've told us what you
- 16:19Speaker 2: want and a little bit about what you think will happen.
- 16:22Speaker 2: But we've got four different scenarios and I kind of
- 16:25Speaker 2: want you to to rank one to four, one being
- 16:29Speaker 2: most likely to happen for being absolutely one happen what
- 16:33Speaker 2: you think will happen, not what I want or what
- 16:36Speaker 2: you want, but like what probably will happen if you
- 16:39Speaker 2: had to be right. So let me read off the
- 16:42Speaker 2: scenarios and then you can kind of answer from there.
- 16:44Speaker 2: So yeah, scenario one and these are all Sam Donald.
- 16:48Speaker 2: What happens with him Sam Donald? So a scenario one
- 16:51Speaker 2: is Sam Donald is signed to more than one year contract,
- 16:55Speaker 2: two three, four year contract for market value whatever that is,
- 16:59Speaker 2: to be the star with the Minnesota Vikings. That scenario one.
- 17:03Speaker 2: Scenario two Donald is franchise tagged to be the starter
- 17:08Speaker 2: specifically in twenty twenty five, and then who knows from there.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Scenario three is Donald is franchise tagged to be traded
- 17:18Speaker 2: as a trade bait, and then scenario four is just
- 17:22Speaker 2: Donald leaves in free agency outright. So if you can
- 17:26Speaker 2: remember what I said, maybe it's not super entertaining, but
- 17:29Speaker 2: what you think actually will happen, not what we want
- 17:32Speaker 2: to happen, but what do you think is most likely? Yeah,
- 17:35Speaker 2: this is my job, so I can this is very
- 17:38Speaker 2: entertaining for me. The least likely scenario of the four
- 17:42Speaker 2: we've listed off is a nude bare naked franchise tag
- 17:46Speaker 2: on Sam Donald, which would be like one year, forty million.
- 17:51Speaker 2: The reason I say that is because that's really expensive
- 17:53Speaker 2: and you can kiss your your sixty million cap space
- 17:56Speaker 2: to basically goodbye. And then we're back to where we
- 17:59Speaker 2: were every off seas with Kirk trying to find bargain
- 18:02Speaker 2: bin guys like Marcus Davenpoint not import to make yourself
- 18:04Speaker 2: super Bowl contender. So the least likely option is them
- 18:07Speaker 2: investing forty million for one single season in Darnald when
- 18:11Speaker 2: you have an affordable McCarthy who's hungry, who's saying all
- 18:14Speaker 2: the right things, which brings me to the second least
- 18:18Speaker 2: likely scenario moving up the ladder here is a short
- 18:21Speaker 2: term extension for let's say two years and sixty two
- 18:25Speaker 2: million and a lot of that guaranteed. If they really
- 18:28Speaker 2: want to have it both ways, hedge their bets. I
- 18:32Speaker 2: think this would lower It would lower the cost so
- 18:34Speaker 2: it's not forty million, and it gives them that Green
- 18:37Speaker 2: Bay Packers model where we roll with Donald. You can
- 18:40Speaker 2: hear in my voice how I'm excited I am about that,
- 18:43Speaker 2: and like God, if we were cruising, or we would
- 18:46Speaker 2: have played respectable against the Rams, or Donald took us
- 18:49Speaker 2: NFC championship, this one I might even be agreeing with
- 18:52Speaker 2: at this point, but nope, his his collapse was too
- 18:55Speaker 2: egregious for me. I think that would be number two.
- 18:58Speaker 2: The second most likely option to me would be the
- 19:01Speaker 2: franchise tag and trade. The reason that I don't have
- 19:05Speaker 2: this at number one is kind of twofold. I don't
- 19:08Speaker 2: know what his trade price would be a because he
- 19:11Speaker 2: collapsed and then b at Trade prices in sports are
- 19:15Speaker 2: absolutely unpredictable. We just talked about the Luca Dota trade.
- 19:18Speaker 2: I don't know if Donald could fetch a second or
- 19:20Speaker 2: if a general manager would laugh in your face about that.
- 19:23Speaker 2: I am done trying to predict trade prices and sound
- 19:25Speaker 2: like I know what I'm talking about, So I don't.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I don't think it's as easy as Hey, we're gonna
- 19:29Speaker 2: tag Donald and we're gonna talk to the Raiders. We'll
- 19:32Speaker 2: get a second round your baby. Maybe it is that simple,
- 19:35Speaker 2: but I doubt it. And then the Vikings have to
- 19:37Speaker 2: weigh the risk of applying that bastard the forty million
- 19:42Speaker 2: dollars franchise tag, and then they're like, ah, we're we're
- 19:46Speaker 2: not trading for him. You're stuck with him, and you
- 19:48Speaker 2: don't have any money for a free agency. That feels
- 19:50Speaker 2: like a little risky for my liking and probably for
- 19:52Speaker 2: the general manager's liking. So and then there's the compensatory angle.
- 19:57Speaker 2: If Donald leaves, he will factor into that really complicated
- 20:00Speaker 2: formula along with Daniel Jones and whatever free agents may leave.
- 20:03Speaker 2: So the Vikings have to decide what are we gonna
- 20:05Speaker 2: get back for a compensentatory if he walks, versus how
- 20:08Speaker 2: much can we squeeze out of the Seahawks or the
- 20:10Speaker 2: Raiders or the Steelers via trade, which leads me to
- 20:12Speaker 2: the most likely option. The Vikings don't feel like a
- 20:16Speaker 2: team that enjoys using the franchise tag because it's not
- 20:20Speaker 2: really a beacon of the player culture. That they've built
- 20:24Speaker 2: and empowered through the last three seasons. So as a
- 20:28Speaker 2: token of courtesy to Darnold, I'm gonna guess they say,
- 20:30Speaker 2: thank you. This was our original plan. You come in here,
- 20:33Speaker 2: you ball out. We've already got our guy. You knew that.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Go play for the Seahawks or the Raiders. Go get
- 20:38Speaker 2: your bag. We've got McCarthy right here. Thanks for everything.
- 20:41Speaker 2: That's the most likely scenario if the Vikings were hard
- 20:44Speaker 2: nosed businessmen, that we're gonna We're gonna get the draft
- 20:47Speaker 2: picking franchise tag you. We don't care where what you think.
- 20:50Speaker 2: Maybe I could see it, but let's face it, the
- 20:53Speaker 2: Vikings don't really do things that way. I think I
- 20:56Speaker 2: think the franchise tag trade thing dissipated to the final
- 21:00Speaker 2: two games because he's no longer this oh my god commodity.
- 21:05Speaker 2: He's Sam Donald. Who did That's the thing that pays
- 21:08Speaker 2: me the most gentlemen about those last two games is
- 21:12Speaker 2: in front of back to back national audiences, the Vikings sucked,
- 21:16Speaker 2: and on top of it, everybody who doubted Sam Donald,
- 21:18Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith call him a virus. Back in September,
- 21:21Speaker 2: everybody that thought Donald was a piece of shit was
- 21:24Speaker 2: vindicated watching those last two games, and it felt like
- 21:27Speaker 2: the whole season we watched meant nothing. That's what really
- 21:30Speaker 2: bugged me the most is that people that aren't in
- 21:32Speaker 2: tune with the team were right. They watched the Vikings
- 21:35Speaker 2: do Vikings things. They watched Sam Donald turn into Sam Donald.
- 21:38Speaker 2: So the most likely outcome to me is he just
- 21:40Speaker 2: walks away in free agency and the McCarthy era, thank
- 21:43Speaker 2: God begins. Yeah. Yeah, I tend to agree with everything
- 21:48Speaker 2: as late as you know. The day before the Lions game,
- 21:52Speaker 2: the last line game of the regular season, I was
- 21:55Speaker 2: advocating for the whole tag and trade scenario because that
- 22:00Speaker 2: point Darnold was a first rounder, you know, like he
- 22:03Speaker 2: was a guy that would get, you know, something crazy.
- 22:06Speaker 2: But at this moment, I think he is a pumpkin.
- 22:09Speaker 2: He turned back. He's better than he was a year ago,
- 22:11Speaker 2: but not what we thought he was five weeks ago.
- 22:15Speaker 2: The reason, the reason that I a complete agreement with
- 22:19Speaker 2: you about the franchise tag and trade thing before the
- 22:23Speaker 2: Lions and Rams game is we entered a territory for
- 22:26Speaker 2: Viking's business management that said, would you be stupid if
- 22:32Speaker 2: you don't use this? Will you see the laughing stock
- 22:34Speaker 2: of the NFL. If you let the guy walk and
- 22:36Speaker 2: don't trade him, I think that is how you had
- 22:39Speaker 2: to start to perceive this because you'll look incompetent or
- 22:43Speaker 2: you know, mal practice if you let him walk, and
- 22:45Speaker 2: I'm with you, I don't think that applies anymore because
- 22:48Speaker 2: the guy looked like an utter turd. Yeah, just absolutely awful.
- 22:54Speaker 2: Who was the last guy the Vikings franchise tagged whether
- 22:58Speaker 2: they signed? Was Anthony Harris before that?
- 23:02Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 23:03Speaker 2: Did they tag him?
- 23:04Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 23:04Speaker 2: He did?
- 23:05Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 23:05Speaker 2: What was he good for? Two seasons? Like really good?
- 23:08Speaker 2: Like one and a half seasons and then they tag
- 23:10Speaker 2: Balma hit him with that in twenty nineteen.
- 23:13Speaker 3: Was it something like that?
- 23:14Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which adds to your point. They they
- 23:16Speaker 2: don't do that. I feel like they they're smart, but
- 23:19Speaker 2: they take this team as a whole, takes care of
- 23:21Speaker 2: people when it makes sense to take care of people.
- 23:24Speaker 1: So I got a follow up question, yeah, really quick.
- 23:27Speaker 1: So if if Donald is as good as gone and
- 23:31Speaker 1: JJ's the proverbial starter moving forward, the Vikings still have
- 23:36Speaker 1: three other quarterbacks currently on the roster. What's your prediction
- 23:42Speaker 1: who's gonna fill that QB two role and that emergency
- 23:46Speaker 1: QB three. It's probably really to make that prediction.
- 23:50Speaker 2: But no, no, not at all. I don't think so.
- 23:52Speaker 2: It's cool that the Vikings have quarterbacks coming out their
- 23:54Speaker 2: ears because they have a good head coach who knows
- 23:57Speaker 2: how to foster them. Daniel Jones makes way too much sense.
- 24:00Speaker 2: There had to be knowledge, a forethought when they signed.
- 24:05Speaker 2: They were the team that signed him after the Giants
- 24:07Speaker 2: kicked him out or he asked for his release. I
- 24:10Speaker 2: think that forged the relationship. I'm gonna guess Daniel Jones
- 24:14Speaker 2: comes back on that one year, ten million dollar deal
- 24:16Speaker 2: that Darnald got. I would like to not have a
- 24:19Speaker 2: quarterback competition in the summer, but if they man, if
- 24:23Speaker 2: it's mandatory, then so be it. My money would be
- 24:25Speaker 2: on Donald because he just witnessed what happened to Sam
- 24:28Speaker 2: Darnald minus the last two games, and like, there's a
- 24:32Speaker 2: reason that he chose the Vikings in the first place.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Why not see it through? And in his mind? You know,
- 24:37Speaker 2: right now, there's dudes like me on podcasts. They are
- 24:39Speaker 2: like McCarthy is the real deal. I know he's going
- 24:41Speaker 2: to be the real deal. But Daniel Jones isn't thinking
- 24:44Speaker 2: that way. Like, you know, he could be the quarterback
- 24:46Speaker 2: in September. For all we know, McCarthy could injure his
- 24:48Speaker 2: leg again. So I think he has to look around
- 24:51Speaker 2: and see what happened to Darnald and therefore not made
- 24:54Speaker 2: himself as the Vikings QB.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Two.
- 24:57Speaker 2: The other thing I want to say, in case I
- 24:58Speaker 2: forget over these next thirty five forty minutes, whatever it is,
- 25:01Speaker 2: I expect the Vikings to say all of this juicy
- 25:04Speaker 2: shit about Donald, like, oh no, we want him back.
- 25:07Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess at press conferences they say that, or
- 25:10Speaker 2: they leak the intel so that they can examine the
- 25:12Speaker 2: trade market. But it's up to us to believe that
- 25:15Speaker 2: or not. I don't know. Sometimes when I when then
- 25:18Speaker 2: I see the hey is Donald coming back? Tom Perlicero said, Hey,
- 25:21Speaker 2: this thing is fluid. I think we're over complicating this.
- 25:25Speaker 2: Are the Vikings really going to turn back on McCarthy
- 25:29Speaker 2: after they just went through the Cousins era of good
- 25:32Speaker 2: but not elite quarterback in favor of Donald, Who's going
- 25:35Speaker 2: to give you a good but not elite quarterback and
- 25:37Speaker 2: then make it really difficult to build out a roster
- 25:41Speaker 2: Like I think we get too bogged down into thinking
- 25:43Speaker 2: like what if they're gonna hedge their bets. What if Donald,
- 25:45Speaker 2: you know, turns out that he can play go to
- 25:47Speaker 2: the playoffs next year? Like, I think that we over complicated.
- 25:50Speaker 2: When you hear guys like thor An Eistrom talk, it
- 25:52Speaker 2: sounds like he really gets it, you know, almost laughing
- 25:54Speaker 2: at the notion of not starting McCarthy this year. They
- 25:57Speaker 2: drafted him for a reason. Donald did not ball out
- 26:00Speaker 2: to the enough to negate McCarthy on the roster. He
- 26:04Speaker 2: was getting there. But I think that we over complicated
- 26:08Speaker 2: at times to think, hey, they can have their cake
- 26:10Speaker 2: and eat it too by having Donald back. I'm sure
- 26:13Speaker 2: Quazy Dopamentsa is elated to have this cap space and
- 26:17Speaker 2: you can kiss that bitch goodbye if you signed Donald
- 26:21Speaker 2: back for two years and eighty million or whatever it
- 26:23Speaker 2: might be. So Daniel Jones is my long answer as
- 26:25Speaker 2: the QB two. Yeah, and I think we both kind
- 26:28Speaker 2: of agree with that unless there was some like unknown
- 26:31Speaker 2: like holy cow, this rookie that was supposed to be
- 26:33Speaker 2: a first rounder is suddenly available in the sixth round,
- 26:36Speaker 2: Like who cares about Daniel Jones? Just a quarterback two spot?
- 26:39Speaker 2: You know, like stuff like that doesn't happen.
- 26:41Speaker 1: So one more follow up question, then, does that mean
- 26:45Speaker 1: Mullins is gone? Is he? Is he done? I mean
- 26:50Speaker 1: he's been on because years now.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Rippin was resigned as one of their first
- 26:56Speaker 2: miniature orders of business. I think he is a damn
- 26:59Speaker 2: good QB three, and I actually think Nick Mullens deserves
- 27:03Speaker 2: to be a bona fide QB two on some other team.
- 27:07Speaker 2: I just assume that Daniel Jones thing meant a little
- 27:10Speaker 2: bit more than just having an extra insurance policy to
- 27:14Speaker 2: Nick Mullens. So I am a Nick Mullens guy too.
- 27:18Speaker 2: I love it when he gets in there and just
- 27:20Speaker 2: throws four hundred passing yards. We are too, Yeah, but
- 27:23Speaker 2: I think that he'll be best served to be one
- 27:26Speaker 2: snap away from a quarterback if you're if you operate
- 27:30Speaker 2: under the pretense that Daniel Jones will probably get the
- 27:33Speaker 2: NOD this year. Otherwise, if we look up and we're
- 27:35Speaker 2: doing your show May Second or some something like that,
- 27:38Speaker 2: and they have chosen McCarthy, Mullens and Ripping, I won't complain.
- 27:41Speaker 2: I'll be happy about it. Not everybody will, but I'll
- 27:44Speaker 2: be just fine with that. Yeah, I don't think it's
- 27:46Speaker 2: a unique take. But I've been on record anytime I
- 27:49Speaker 2: talk about Nick Mullens is he is one of the
- 27:51Speaker 2: best QB two's, yeah, in the NFL, and QB two
- 27:56Speaker 2: is a legitimate position. I mean, you can't just be
- 27:59Speaker 2: a really good Q two and then automatically become a
- 28:01Speaker 2: QB one. But I mean we joke about it.
- 28:04Speaker 1: You know.
- 28:04Speaker 2: All he does is come in and throw twenty five
- 28:06Speaker 2: yard passes to Aaron Jones for first downs, you know.
- 28:09Speaker 2: But I mean there is something to be said about
- 28:11Speaker 2: a guy that, you know, oh crap, we need two plays,
- 28:14Speaker 2: and you know, Nick Mullins, if he's a starter, he's
- 28:18Speaker 2: probably gonna throw four interceptions. But if he comes in
- 28:21Speaker 2: for that oh crap, third down play because Sam Darnold
- 28:24Speaker 2: twisted his ankle, you're you're okay because and you can
- 28:27Speaker 2: even call a pass play because Nick Mullens, at least
- 28:30Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. He seems unshakeable when
- 28:32Speaker 2: he's unexpectedly called upon, Totally fearless. Yeah, I agree with
- 28:37Speaker 2: that completely.
- 28:39Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's switch gears away from quarterbacks, which
- 28:43Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that could probably dominate the entire offseason
- 28:46Speaker 1: if we wanted it to.
- 28:47Speaker 3: It will.
- 28:48Speaker 1: But you had mentioned in your message to us a
- 28:52Speaker 1: little bit ago Cooper Cup. He's on the market right now,
- 28:56Speaker 1: and you made the comment that he almost makes too
- 28:59Speaker 1: much sense for the Vikings. Explain your thoughts that way.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Sure, So from a fantasy football angle, I started daydreaming
- 29:07Speaker 2: about him leaving the Rams in December or so because
- 29:10Speaker 2: his target load kind of diminished. And if you're a
- 29:13Speaker 2: fantasy football manager, you know all about that. And I
- 29:16Speaker 2: got to thinking, like, there isn't a more Ramsey and
- 29:20Speaker 2: Rams connection from the O'Connell era in Los Angeles than
- 29:24Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. He's going to be thirty two. We fully
- 29:27Speaker 2: understand that the best part of his career is over.
- 29:30Speaker 2: But these Vikings have been WR three starved for like
- 29:34Speaker 2: a decade minimum, and we've got accustomed to getting excited
- 29:38Speaker 2: about kJ Osborne getting six hundred yards or Jalen Naylor
- 29:42Speaker 2: having a good block on a long touchdown. We should, well,
- 29:45Speaker 2: we should have a better standard for WR three where
- 29:48Speaker 2: the guy gets seven hundred, eight hundred yards in a
- 29:50Speaker 2: passing offense, seven eight nine touchdowns, and hey, when Addison's
- 29:55Speaker 2: hurt or Jefferson's down with a hamstring, that hey, you've
- 29:58Speaker 2: got Cooper Cup, wh you certifiably know can move the
- 30:02Speaker 2: sticks or like a Mark Cooper. Also, he's going to
- 30:05Speaker 2: be a free agent right now, Like we went from b. C.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Johnston to Chad Beebe to like guys who wouldn't even
- 30:11Speaker 2: be on an NFL roster, and then now we're excited
- 30:14Speaker 2: because we had kJ Osborne and Jalen Naylor, but we
- 30:16Speaker 2: can get better. And with Cooper Cup there is the
- 30:20Speaker 2: glowingly obvious connection to Kevin O'Connell. The guy won the
- 30:23Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP with Kevin O'Connell as the offensive coordinator,
- 30:26Speaker 2: the offensive Player of the Year, and it just so
- 30:29Speaker 2: happens that he is on the trade market. He's going
- 30:31Speaker 2: to be traded. So you couple that connection to the
- 30:35Speaker 2: Vikings head coach, plus the notion that Jordan Addison is
- 30:39Speaker 2: probably going to be suspended for two or three games
- 30:41Speaker 2: in September, I think it makes too much sense for
- 30:45Speaker 2: Cooper Cup to be on the Vikings roster. He can
- 30:48Speaker 2: be the fringe WR two when you need him. Like
- 30:50Speaker 2: I said, this is not you know me pounding home
- 30:53Speaker 2: nostalgia or hey I want three deep. I just know
- 30:56Speaker 2: that this is the perfect spot for him to wind
- 30:58Speaker 2: down a pretty fantastic career and Vikings fans would love
- 31:01Speaker 2: them in a heartbeat. So, mainly because of the built
- 31:04Speaker 2: in connection to Kevin O'Connell, I expect the Vikings to
- 31:08Speaker 2: poke around the trade sweep stakes. And even though I
- 31:11Speaker 2: just got done saying I don't know shit about trades
- 31:13Speaker 2: anymore because every single one is different, I think Cup
- 31:18Speaker 2: can be got for a fourth rounder or so, and
- 31:21Speaker 2: historically the Rams are pretty good about eating a player
- 31:24Speaker 2: some of the extra salary when they want to get
- 31:27Speaker 2: rid of a guy. So I do think more than
- 31:30Speaker 2: just a hot take or just something that you know,
- 31:33Speaker 2: you tweet for the hell of it. I think Cooper
- 31:35Speaker 2: Cup to the Vikings makes a lot of sense for realism. Yeah,
- 31:40Speaker 2: I agree with that, And I think your points are
- 31:44Speaker 2: that I was going to say the obvious points that,
- 31:46Speaker 2: but that makes it sound like, oh, you don't have
- 31:48Speaker 2: any original takes. Obviously, you only think the obvious things.
- 31:51Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. It's the right thought process.
- 31:53Speaker 2: I think Cup to the Vikings, Cup to Koc is
- 31:57Speaker 2: the right thought process. But I'm sitting here trying to think,
- 32:00Speaker 2: has there have there been too many players come from
- 32:03Speaker 2: the Rams to the Vikings just because of that. Like
- 32:07Speaker 2: I know, Johnny munt was he he was the one
- 32:10Speaker 2: that was a Ram he came. I think he was
- 32:12Speaker 2: the first free agent signed once Koc was hired, and
- 32:18Speaker 2: then cam Akers was traded for, and then cam Akers
- 32:21Speaker 2: was traded for again. But other than those two guys,
- 32:24Speaker 2: am I missing out on any other Rams or even
- 32:27Speaker 2: other teams.
- 32:28Speaker 3: A little bit?
- 32:29Speaker 2: Brandon Powell, okay, he was. He took that touchdown against
- 32:34Speaker 2: us to the House in twenty twenty.
- 32:36Speaker 1: Yeah, that was.
- 32:38Speaker 2: And then there's always a couple of dudes who nibble
- 32:40Speaker 2: around the Sumber roster that O'Connor brings over, like Jonah Williams.
- 32:44Speaker 2: Brett Repen even has ties to the Rams. I'm not sure.
- 32:46Speaker 2: If I don't think Koc was there, maybe he was.
- 32:49Speaker 2: It's it's kind of those ancillary guys. There was another one. God,
- 32:53Speaker 2: there was a linebacker who made like last year's roster.
- 32:57Speaker 2: I'll have to look up who it was. Usually it's
- 33:00Speaker 2: like you're chilling on a June or July day and
- 33:02Speaker 2: they signed some guy you've maybe heard of once or twice.
- 33:05Speaker 2: The CA's from yeah, yeah, yeah, Like he's from the
- 33:08Speaker 2: rams background. Yeah, I can't, man, it's gonna bug me. Now,
- 33:13Speaker 2: there is a linebacker that they signed in twenty twenty
- 33:15Speaker 2: two or twenty twenty three that actually like started somewhere
- 33:18Speaker 2: this year, but he was from those Ramps. So yeah,
- 33:21Speaker 2: he does like to kick the tires on those dudes,
- 33:23Speaker 2: and this might be the last best time to do
- 33:25Speaker 2: it because a lot of those guys are probably getting
- 33:27Speaker 2: old because that was four years ago. So yeah, there
- 33:30Speaker 2: are there are signs of o Knla doing that, And
- 33:34Speaker 2: for the record, I do expect this free agent period
- 33:36Speaker 2: to have Brian Flores do that as well. Whether it's
- 33:39Speaker 2: Jerome Baker, who is an off ball linebacker that could
- 33:42Speaker 2: be a good depth feast, or Javon Holland. I would
- 33:45Speaker 2: rather the Vikings pay Javon Holland the Cameron by them,
- 33:48Speaker 2: but that's just me. So yeah, those tentacles from your
- 33:51Speaker 2: team's leaders, that's a real thing in sports, and I
- 33:55Speaker 2: think you'll see that from the Vikings during this free agency.
- 33:58Speaker 2: All right, Well, with all that in mind, you also
- 34:01Speaker 2: brought up a few position groups that probably need some
- 34:03Speaker 2: love in free agency, probably the draft too, but more
- 34:07Speaker 2: likely free agency, just because I think most Vikings fans
- 34:11Speaker 2: at this point are okay with the fact that Quaycy
- 34:13Speaker 2: seems to be better in free agency than the draft,
- 34:16Speaker 2: and you pair that with a lot of free agent
- 34:19Speaker 2: cap space and not a lot of draft capital right now,
- 34:22Speaker 2: it kind of meshes up to, Okay, let Caraycy do
- 34:25Speaker 2: what he's gonna do best. So with that in mind,
- 34:28Speaker 2: you mentioned the cornerback group, probably just the whole defensive
- 34:31Speaker 2: backfield in general, inside offensive line, inside defensive line, and
- 34:36Speaker 2: running back. Do you have you mentioned a couple of
- 34:39Speaker 2: names a minute ago. Do you have like a golden
- 34:43Speaker 2: gift like whoever it would be via trade or free
- 34:47Speaker 2: agency at all, that could be available out there that
- 34:50Speaker 2: would instantly help the Vikings and bring them to be
- 34:53Speaker 2: a better team than a fourteen and three team last year. Yeah,
- 34:57Speaker 2: there are a bunch, and then I mean, I just
- 35:00Speaker 2: rattle off the big name free agents, but they're of
- 35:03Speaker 2: course not going to get all of them. I think
- 35:04Speaker 2: Bleacher Report had a really sweet idea. They talked about
- 35:08Speaker 2: a third trade of a third rounder to the Colts
- 35:11Speaker 2: for DeForest Buckner, who was one of the most consistent
- 35:14Speaker 2: defensive tackles on the planet. I don't know why the
- 35:16Speaker 2: Colts would want to get rid of him, but evidently
- 35:18Speaker 2: Bleacher Report had that out there. I would love that
- 35:21Speaker 2: even though he's setting thirty thirty one d tackles can
- 35:24Speaker 2: usually go till thirty four to thirty five. Kalais Campbell
- 35:27Speaker 2: can tell you all about that. So yeah, lin Vall
- 35:31Speaker 2: still flaying. Let's see. I would love for them to
- 35:35Speaker 2: get a new center. Drew Domond from the Falcons is
- 35:38Speaker 2: like the hottest commodity at that spot. Falcons fans say
- 35:42Speaker 2: he ain't going anywhere. My good friend Onic Eckhart, who's
- 35:45Speaker 2: been on the show, he said he said he'd be
- 35:48Speaker 2: really surprised with the Vikings. Let Bradbury walk because you're
- 35:51Speaker 2: gonna probably have a rookie quarterback and that's important to
- 35:54Speaker 2: have the communication down. I of course am intrigued by
- 35:58Speaker 2: Trey Smith a guard, but I'm hesitant to believe that
- 36:02Speaker 2: quasi dafa mensa will spend twenty one million dollars on
- 36:06Speaker 2: a guard when he could get two guards for that price.
- 36:09Speaker 2: But I know Vikings fans have Circle Tray Smith as
- 36:12Speaker 2: their number one with a bullet target. We can see
- 36:14Speaker 2: him in the Super Bowl on Sunday, So Drew Dolmen
- 36:17Speaker 2: would be the most fascinating to me because I want
- 36:21Speaker 2: to get rid of Garrett Bradbury. For one reason, I
- 36:23Speaker 2: don't want to go up against the Giants for the
- 36:25Speaker 2: Packers and know that we're playing Dexter Lawrence or Kenny
- 36:28Speaker 2: Clark and just know you're cooked. We shouldn't have to
- 36:31Speaker 2: feel that way about an offense first football team because
- 36:34Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell's.
- 36:35Speaker 3: The head coach.
- 36:36Speaker 2: I like Bradbury as a dude. I won't bitch that
- 36:39Speaker 2: much if he comes back, but I would love for
- 36:41Speaker 2: us to finally have a center that's not going to
- 36:42Speaker 2: get devoured by Dexter Lawrence. So I think Drew Dollman
- 36:47Speaker 2: is my top target at cornerback, DJ Reid Hassante, Samuel
- 36:52Speaker 2: Tarvarius Ward. I would kind of prefer that they sign
- 36:56Speaker 2: a cornerback because we can never get that right in
- 36:59Speaker 2: the draft. We have drafted a good one since Trey
- 37:01Speaker 2: Wayne's ten years ago. And then my final soapbox is,
- 37:06Speaker 2: although I like Aaron Jones and I thought he did
- 37:08Speaker 2: a wonderful job by his standards, he's not gonna get
- 37:12Speaker 2: any better and based on like his name, he's gonna
- 37:17Speaker 2: get one of those Lifetime Achievement contracts of like one
- 37:19Speaker 2: year and seven million bucks, and I would rather the
- 37:22Speaker 2: Vikings give like Javonte Williams, who's twenty five, one year
- 37:26Speaker 2: and four million bucks, and then also draft a rookie
- 37:30Speaker 2: running back because this class is so deep. But we've
- 37:33Speaker 2: we've learned the prerequisite for Kevin O'Connell's offense at running
- 37:36Speaker 2: back is a guy who can pass block. Otherwise you're
- 37:39Speaker 2: ty Chandler and you get devoted to RB three. So
- 37:42Speaker 2: Javonte Williams is a fabulous pass blocker. So is Najie Harris,
- 37:45Speaker 2: so is Jalen Warrens. Those Steelers boys know what they're doing.
- 37:48Speaker 2: I want the Vikings to get a decent veteran running
- 37:52Speaker 2: back that is not thirty one years old that Aaron
- 37:55Speaker 2: Jones will be next season. And then, oh my gosh,
- 37:58Speaker 2: if we can with that third round capets to pick
- 38:00Speaker 2: that we got because Kirk left number ninety seven or so,
- 38:03Speaker 2: they're still going to be able to get a damn
- 38:05Speaker 2: fine halfback, whether that's one of the Ohio State guys,
- 38:08Speaker 2: Devin Neil from Kansas, There's going to be options. So
- 38:12Speaker 2: one of my biggest asks is once and for all,
- 38:16Speaker 2: get the personnel right at running back. Maybe along the way,
- 38:19Speaker 2: improve the offensive line in the interior trenches trenches, and
- 38:23Speaker 2: maybe we could flirt with a top ten run offense.
- 38:25Speaker 2: And I guarantee you that the offense would look fantastic.
- 38:29Speaker 2: If you saw that Aaron Jones from the first few
- 38:31Speaker 2: weeks of September when he was cooking. If the Vikings
- 38:34Speaker 2: offense can do that all the time, it might be
- 38:37Speaker 2: damn near unstoppable. Yeah. I noticed you didn't mention cam
- 38:40Speaker 2: Akers name at all in Lainey.
- 38:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:42Speaker 2: No, he better be back as RB three because I
- 38:45Speaker 2: don't want to trade for him again in October, and
- 38:47Speaker 2: I think he will, But if I say cam Akers
- 38:51Speaker 2: in a forum like this, it kind of assumes that
- 38:53Speaker 2: he'll be back as one of the solutions. I like
- 38:56Speaker 2: him to be an ancillary guy. If they really wanted
- 38:59Speaker 2: him as the RB two behind the rookie running back
- 39:02Speaker 2: that they draft, great. I do like cam Akers. He
- 39:06Speaker 2: earned all of my respect when he caught that pass
- 39:08Speaker 2: against the Packers, So yeah, I do want Acres back,
- 39:11Speaker 2: but to me, that was more in an RB three capacity,
- 39:13Speaker 2: and we know a running back will get hurt and
- 39:16Speaker 2: then he'd be instantly promoted to RB two for however
- 39:19Speaker 2: many weeks. Yeah, absolutely, that's all good points.
- 39:23Speaker 1: So next question here on kind of the opposite side
- 39:28Speaker 1: of the table. We've been talking about all of these
- 39:31Speaker 1: external guys possibly making their way in. The Vikings had
- 39:35Speaker 1: a laundry list of guys have currently president a laundry
- 39:40Speaker 1: list of guys that are potentially on their way out.
- 39:45Speaker 1: Who's most likely to leave and who's most likely to
- 39:47Speaker 1: come back. We kind of did this on an episode
- 39:50Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, kind of talked about, you know,
- 39:53Speaker 1: on that list of unrestricted free agents that the Vikings
- 39:56Speaker 1: have currently, who we thought was most likely to return
- 40:01Speaker 1: and then most likely to leave. What do you think?
- 40:05Speaker 2: Yeah, there are twenty five free agents, so almost half
- 40:07Speaker 2: the football team. That's why there's so much cap space,
- 40:10Speaker 2: boys and girls, is because twenty five dudes are about
- 40:13Speaker 2: to hit free agency. I think that Byron Murphy is
- 40:17Speaker 2: the most precious commodity and probably the most likely to
- 40:20Speaker 2: be back of the big names. He said last June.
- 40:23Speaker 2: I think he was talking to Darren Wolfson of KSTP.
- 40:26Speaker 2: He said he loved it here, he wants to be back,
- 40:28Speaker 2: and he sounded genuine when he said it, and thankfully
- 40:31Speaker 2: for his sake, he got to the Pro Bowl, he
- 40:33Speaker 2: had six interceptions. He's gonna get a sweet contract. I
- 40:36Speaker 2: think out of sheer roster need that Byron Murphy is
- 40:39Speaker 2: the most likely to come back A for continuity and
- 40:43Speaker 2: then B he wants to be here and then see
- 40:45Speaker 2: if you don't get him back, it's Makai Blackman, Dwight maclother.
- 40:49Speaker 2: That's what you got heading into the off season. So
- 40:52Speaker 2: I feel like with this bonanza of cap space, that
- 40:55Speaker 2: Murphy is the most likely to be back of the
- 40:57Speaker 2: big names. I'm torn on Aaron Jones. That one can
- 41:00Speaker 2: go either way. He also said he wants to be back.
- 41:02Speaker 2: All of these players love the Vikings like culture. If
- 41:06Speaker 2: I had to gamble on it, I'd say Darnold is gone,
- 41:09Speaker 2: and then Cameron Bynum is like the big circle at
- 41:12Speaker 2: one where I just don't know how that one's going
- 41:14Speaker 2: to go. Because of his large persona, with the celebrations
- 41:18Speaker 2: and the movie connections that he always likes to do.
- 41:22Speaker 2: I think he has a bigger name and lovability than
- 41:26Speaker 2: his actual performance. I think he's good, but I don't
- 41:29Speaker 2: know that he's worth fifteen million good. And I can't
- 41:32Speaker 2: decide if the Vikings will bank on him for continuity.
- 41:36Speaker 2: This regime did not draft him. That's the one that
- 41:39Speaker 2: I can't necessarily predict, but I will reiterate if the
- 41:43Speaker 2: Vikings have a puncher's chance of getting Javon Holland, I
- 41:45Speaker 2: would rather have Javon Holland. I think he's a more
- 41:48Speaker 2: complete safety. And all of this will be complicated as
- 41:51Speaker 2: well if Harrison Smith retires, because then you're looking at
- 41:54Speaker 2: Josh but tell Us and Jay Ward as your two safeties.
- 41:57Speaker 2: So safety is a sneaky roster need. If buying them depart,
- 42:00Speaker 2: it's and Harrison Smith retires, And I don't know if
- 42:03Speaker 2: that can be solved in the draft since you only
- 42:05Speaker 2: have what four picks altogether. I don't know if I
- 42:08Speaker 2: left anybody out. Dalton Reisner, I'm sure, and May will.
- 42:11Speaker 2: We'll decide that we want him back because nobody, nobody
- 42:14Speaker 2: ever wants them in March or April for some reason.
- 42:18Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, like Ryan, but then it's
- 42:22Speaker 2: like Ryan Wright. I'm like, yeah, sure, why not. I'm
- 42:26Speaker 2: forgetting any ginormous Shaq Griffin will probably be back, and
- 42:30Speaker 2: he's the type of guy that you signed back and
- 42:32Speaker 2: then when you enter the draft, you know you have
- 42:34Speaker 2: him there in case the board goes funky, you know,
- 42:37Speaker 2: because he can. He's a spot starter so to speak.
- 42:39Speaker 2: You know, he started most of this season. I think
- 42:42Speaker 2: I got a most cover. I don't know if I'm
- 42:43Speaker 2: forgetting anybody big.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:46Speaker 2: I think there's also precedent too for a guy like
- 42:50Speaker 2: Byron Murphy, because Quaycy seems to like to double down
- 42:56Speaker 2: on guys that have rewarded quacy. I'm thinking of of TJ. Hogginson.
- 43:01Speaker 2: You know, it took he costs quite a bit in
- 43:03Speaker 2: draft capital, and then he he played well, and Guaycy,
- 43:09Speaker 2: I think, liked to say that, yeah, we brought this
- 43:12Speaker 2: guy in, he played well for us, and because of that,
- 43:14Speaker 2: we're rewarding him with a big contract. I think Byron
- 43:17Speaker 2: Murphy he came to Minnesota kind of as a what
- 43:21Speaker 2: we would call a quacy guy, like a by low
- 43:23Speaker 2: type guy, you know, good upside but doesn't cost a ton,
- 43:27Speaker 2: not super cheap, but doesn't cost a ton. And so
- 43:31Speaker 2: this past year he played well. So I think Cracy
- 43:34Speaker 2: not not to you know, say anything bad about it,
- 43:36Speaker 2: but kind of stroking his own ego and trying to
- 43:38Speaker 2: say like, hey, I am a good GM I signed
- 43:41Speaker 2: a guy, and you know what, because of that, I'm
- 43:43Speaker 2: re signing him because I obviously knew what I was
- 43:46Speaker 2: talking about, So it'll be interesting. I think T J.
- 43:48Speaker 2: Hogginson might be the only use case forever that thought
- 43:52Speaker 2: process so far, because all the other big contracts were
- 43:56Speaker 2: brought in pre quacy, like Jefferson and Darris Saw trying
- 44:02Speaker 2: to think who else has gotten a big contract when
- 44:04Speaker 2: after Quasi has come in. Well, normally we'd be talking
- 44:07Speaker 2: about that right now, but the twenty twenty two draft
- 44:10Speaker 2: class was so bad that nobody wouldn't want anybody back
- 44:13Speaker 2: from that. But I kid you not. The here and
- 44:15Speaker 2: now is when we'd be talking about extensions for Lewis Scene,
- 44:18Speaker 2: Andrew Booth and those guys. But unfortunately contender Lewis Seen,
- 44:22Speaker 2: don't forget about that. There just weren't any guys from
- 44:26Speaker 2: that draft class that even remotely warrant an extension. Yeah,
- 44:31Speaker 2: well I mentioned it in a minute ago, but I mean
- 44:32Speaker 2: Cam Robinson, he seems like he's probably a foregone conclusion
- 44:37Speaker 2: that he's going to get however many seven, eight, nine,
- 44:40Speaker 2: ten million dollars from some other team. But if he
- 44:43Speaker 2: has ability to jump inside and potentially solve an inside
- 44:48Speaker 2: offensive line issue with a guy that's already been in
- 44:50Speaker 2: the building for half a season. I'm not against that.
- 44:53Speaker 2: I think that could be a good idea if it works.
- 44:55Speaker 2: You know, some guys can't jump inside. Also, that gives
- 44:59Speaker 2: you some flexibility for a guy that we don't know
- 45:03Speaker 2: when Deriso is gonna come back. And if you have
- 45:06Speaker 2: to overpay a little bit in a year where you
- 45:09Speaker 2: have a ton of cap space. This is assuming Sam
- 45:12Speaker 2: Darnold gets his big payday from somebody else. Maybe it
- 45:16Speaker 2: behooves you to pay a little bit more for the
- 45:19Speaker 2: insurance policy of Cam Robinson and then let him go
- 45:22Speaker 2: after a year or two. Yeah, it kind of comes
- 45:25Speaker 2: down to whether or not Robinson gets offers from the
- 45:28Speaker 2: Chiefs or the Browns for which he will somebody's gonna
- 45:31Speaker 2: or seven million if it's If it's in that below
- 45:35Speaker 2: ten million, then he would be an option to bring back.
- 45:38Speaker 2: And then I never know. Like Brian mckinniy I did
- 45:40Speaker 2: a show with him for four years and he would
- 45:43Speaker 2: scoff that show was really good. Until recently he would
- 45:47Speaker 2: scoff at the idea of a tackle playing guard. But
- 45:50Speaker 2: then I talked to Walter rous On my show last
- 45:53Speaker 2: summer and he's like, hell, yeah, man, I'll do whatever
- 45:54Speaker 2: you need me to do. So I never know if
- 45:56Speaker 2: you can just flip Cam Robinson over to guard and
- 45:58Speaker 2: everybody's happy, or if he's like McKinny, it's like, are
- 46:01Speaker 2: you nuts?
- 46:02Speaker 3: Why would I do that?
- 46:03Speaker 2: Well? Do you remember Babatunde Aagbusi when he came in
- 46:08Speaker 2: I don't know five However, many years ago, I think
- 46:11Speaker 2: he was famous for saying, like, Hey, if the Vikings
- 46:14Speaker 2: need a kicker, I'll be the best kicker they've ever had. So,
- 46:17Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure Walter Rouse was being genuine when
- 46:20Speaker 2: he said he would totally jump inside.
- 46:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Ask, But like that's also kind of a company line too.
- 46:26Speaker 2: I mean, if the Vikings called me, I'd try to
- 46:28Speaker 2: be the best out of shape, too small guy on
- 46:32Speaker 2: the field and probably die out there, but I try.
- 46:36Speaker 1: You know, Well, one more question here, yep, and then
- 46:42Speaker 1: we'll wrap things up here. Any any other like uncovered
- 46:48Speaker 1: little gems in this offseason that we're overlooking anything that, Like,
- 46:52Speaker 1: we've covered a lot. We've covered quarterbacks, Cooper Cup, some
- 46:56Speaker 1: of the interior offensive and defensive line position. The defensive
- 47:01Speaker 1: backfield is a big need. The running back position is
- 47:05Speaker 1: a big need. Is there anything else that we're missing
- 47:08Speaker 1: that the Vikings should probably take care of this offseason,
- 47:11Speaker 1: whether that's in the draft or free agency.
- 47:15Speaker 2: I think we hit on almost everything. If they don't
- 47:18Speaker 2: subscribe to my Cooper Cup theory, there are a litany
- 47:22Speaker 2: of WR threes that can get got this offseason. And
- 47:26Speaker 2: we talked about this all year last year, like Hunter
- 47:28Speaker 2: Renfro over and over, and they just said no, no thanks.
- 47:31Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if they'll do that. But Stefan Diggs,
- 47:34Speaker 2: he's a free agent. If you go pull up you know,
- 47:36Speaker 2: if you google the best free agent wide receivers out there,
- 47:40Speaker 2: there are like fifteen guys that could be a Vikings
- 47:43Speaker 2: WR three. And I'm going to continue to bring that
- 47:45Speaker 2: up because I do think the Vikings can get better
- 47:48Speaker 2: than Jalen Naylor at WR three. And then in terms
- 47:53Speaker 2: of the draft, I haven't decided. I think I have
- 47:55Speaker 2: to see free agency first to figure out what my
- 47:58Speaker 2: official endorsement is the twenty fourth pick. I do think
- 48:01Speaker 2: they'll trade back once or twice to get some picks back.
- 48:05Speaker 2: But if you want Minnesota to finally upgrade at defensive tackle,
- 48:09Speaker 2: you're gonna have options at twenty four. It kind of
- 48:12Speaker 2: comes down to if you're like me and you want
- 48:15Speaker 2: a three technique, like a guy who's going to get
- 48:17Speaker 2: into the backfield, Walter Nolan would be your guy from Ole,
- 48:21Speaker 2: miss If you want a thick run stopper, Tyleek Williams
- 48:25Speaker 2: from Ohio State is your type of guy. I've done
- 48:28Speaker 2: some homework talk with Yanic Eckhart about this, and Nolan
- 48:31Speaker 2: is a disruptor and TYLERK. Williams is a type of
- 48:34Speaker 2: you know, Lions solidifier that you know you're not letting
- 48:37Speaker 2: your tailbag get through here. So I want a Kevin
- 48:41Speaker 2: Williams type because we haven't had one since twenty thirteen,
- 48:44Speaker 2: the last season Kevin Williams played, So right now I've
- 48:47Speaker 2: warmed up to the idea of them spending their twenty
- 48:49Speaker 2: fourth pick on Walter Nolan. So that would be, I guess,
- 48:52Speaker 2: a gem that I would say to keep an eye on.
- 48:55Speaker 2: But I will reiterate that it's going to be a
- 48:56Speaker 2: really fun draft because I firmly believe the Vikings will
- 48:59Speaker 2: come out of it with a running back and we
- 49:01Speaker 2: haven't had a shiny new running back since Dalvin Cook.
- 49:04Speaker 2: And we're talking eight years ago now. Whoever the Vikings
- 49:08Speaker 2: draft at running back, so long as it isn't some
- 49:10Speaker 2: moron in round seven or something, we're gonna get fun. Okay,
- 49:17Speaker 2: it looked like a full back in that preseason game.
- 49:19Speaker 2: I'll never forget that. I couldn't figure out what was
- 49:22Speaker 2: wrong with him. I don't think there anything was.
- 49:24Speaker 1: He was just so.
- 49:26Speaker 2: But whether it's Devin neil O, Mario Hampton, Treveon Henderson,
- 49:30Speaker 2: Quinchin Judkins, whatever running back the Vikings get, we're gonna
- 49:34Speaker 2: be really excited about him because we haven't had one
- 49:37Speaker 2: rookie in eight years. And I'm gonna guess with JJ
- 49:40Speaker 2: McCarthy under center, they're gonna want to run the ball,
- 49:43Speaker 2: you know, more so than resting on their laurels with
- 49:45Speaker 2: Kirk or Darnald and flinging it forty times a game.
- 49:48Speaker 2: So keep an eye on that running back strategy and
- 49:52Speaker 2: pick because that guy is going to touch the ball
- 49:54Speaker 2: more than anybody not named McCarthy for the next three
- 49:57Speaker 2: or four years. Yeah, do you think Ashton Genty and
- 50:01Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson will both be gone before the Vikings have
- 50:04Speaker 2: a chance to.
- 50:04Speaker 3: Look at him?
- 50:05Speaker 2: Genty, I believe will be gone for sure. I can't
- 50:08Speaker 2: see him getting past the Cowboys. What I don't want
- 50:11Speaker 2: to happen is that guy to go to the Bears
- 50:12Speaker 2: and then we have to worry about him for five years.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Now that Ben Johnson's the coach there, that's in play.
- 50:18Speaker 2: It really gets on my nerves. But no Genty if
- 50:21Speaker 2: the Viking. If Genty got to twenty four and the
- 50:24Speaker 2: Vikings didn't pick him or trade it out, that would
- 50:26Speaker 2: be more egregious than the Kyle Hamilton gate from twenty
- 50:29Speaker 2: twenty two. So I would love Ashton genty, but I
- 50:32Speaker 2: also am of the camp that you shouldn't trade up
- 50:34Speaker 2: to get running backs. And then Caleb Johnson is probably
- 50:39Speaker 2: more realistic or more of a wild card. At twenty four.
- 50:42Speaker 2: There could be a team like the Lions and Jamior
- 50:45Speaker 2: Gibbs who just shock you and grabbed Caleb with the
- 50:48Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, fourteenth pick. But more realistically, Caleb will be there.
- 50:53Speaker 2: I just don't know if the Vikings will have a
- 50:54Speaker 2: first round great on him. But no matter what we're
- 50:57Speaker 2: gonna do, we're gonna do shows gentlemen being excited about
- 51:00Speaker 2: the running back. That's how great this class is. I
- 51:03Speaker 2: mean we're talking deep as hell, like thirty running backs
- 51:06Speaker 2: could be chosen. Yeah, yeah, that'll be exciting. I mean,
- 51:11Speaker 2: I'm I'm always the If I had one one thing
- 51:14Speaker 2: to live by on, if I was a GM, I
- 51:17Speaker 2: would I would say hashtag don't pay running backs, but
- 51:20Speaker 2: I draft one in the first round if he's worthy
- 51:22Speaker 2: of it all day, because they're cheap, I mean, and
- 51:25Speaker 2: then you use them up for five years and then
- 51:27Speaker 2: maybe give him one more year and then let them
- 51:28Speaker 2: go unless you're the Giants, and then you let go
- 51:31Speaker 2: of two thousand.
- 51:33Speaker 1: Yard rush if you're right dustin the market for running
- 51:37Speaker 1: backs kind of flips where maybe you had a supply
- 51:39Speaker 1: problem before and how you that's not a problem anymore.
- 51:43Speaker 1: The supply is there, and now you maybe don't have
- 51:45Speaker 1: to pay a running back a ton of money.
- 51:48Speaker 2: Yeah. And it's funny because they just spent the last
- 51:50Speaker 2: year kind of getting their respect back. All these teams
- 51:53Speaker 2: took the plunge with Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley and
- 51:56Speaker 2: it really really worked out. JK. Dobbins was a nice gamble.
- 52:00Speaker 2: Derrick Henry, Yeah, yeah, Derrick Henry for sure. And now
- 52:03Speaker 2: we're about to dump, you know, twenty thirty new ones
- 52:05Speaker 2: into the system who are pretty darn good. So I
- 52:09Speaker 2: was just starting to feel good about running backs getting
- 52:11Speaker 2: their their respect, mainly because Saquon Barkley's in the super Bowl.
- 52:15Speaker 2: But we shall see if the market gets flooded by
- 52:17Speaker 2: all of these dudes. Yeah, all right, Well, I think
- 52:20Speaker 2: we should probably talk Super Bowl before we wrap everything up.
- 52:24Speaker 2: I know you talked about it earlier, but I don't
- 52:26Speaker 2: know if you gave an official prediction. I think you
- 52:29Speaker 2: said you wanted this the Chiefs to win. Correct me
- 52:33Speaker 2: if I'm wrong it was. I mean we're old at
- 52:36Speaker 2: this point. That was forty minutes ago. But what is
- 52:39Speaker 2: your official prediction for the Super Bowl?
- 52:41Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 52:42Speaker 2: My light just went out here. My official prediction for
- 52:47Speaker 2: the Super Bowl is the Chiefs thirty one twenty seven.
- 52:51Speaker 2: Last year, I thought the Ravens would be able to
- 52:54Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs in the postseason, and they didn't, and
- 52:59Speaker 2: that proved to me that the Chiefs are somewhat inevitable.
- 53:03Speaker 2: I am not one of those people that thinks this
- 53:05Speaker 2: the Super Bowl sucks because the Chiefs and Eagles in it,
- 53:07Speaker 2: and I hate the Eagles and Chiefs are so stale.
- 53:12Speaker 2: I understand those arguments, but I believe these teams deserve
- 53:16Speaker 2: to be here. And ultimately, I'm not gonna wake I've
- 53:19Speaker 2: said this to you guys before. I'm not gonna wake
- 53:20Speaker 2: up Monday morning and be the guy who picked against
- 53:22Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So I think the Chiefs win in one
- 53:25Speaker 2: of their customary thrillers. Yeah, I think you've been famous
- 53:29Speaker 2: for saying for as long as you've been talking to
- 53:31Speaker 2: us now, which is over a year. Can you believe
- 53:33Speaker 2: it's like a year and a half that you've been
- 53:34Speaker 2: coming on our show. Thank you by the way, every
- 53:37Speaker 2: time it comes up, you say, Man, I just I
- 53:40Speaker 2: can't bet against the Chiefs. Every time I bet against
- 53:43Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they proved me wrong and like hilariously proved
- 53:46Speaker 2: me wrong. So until they proved me right, I can't
- 53:50Speaker 2: bet against them. So I tend to agree with you.
- 53:52Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are gonna pull it out. Also,
- 53:55Speaker 2: the Eagles have entered Saints' territory for me where I'll be,
- 54:02Speaker 2: The Vikings could beat the Eagles every year for the
- 54:05Speaker 2: next fifty years, and I would still hate the Eagles,
- 54:09Speaker 2: just like I can never I'll never get over two
- 54:11Speaker 2: thousand and nine and the Saints. I still every time
- 54:13Speaker 2: the Saints lose, I'm happy, and it's more so for
- 54:16Speaker 2: the Eagles fans and the famous one that got canceled
- 54:20Speaker 2: over being mean to Packer fans and the stuff like that.
- 54:24Speaker 2: You see the videos of them walking the streets and
- 54:26Speaker 2: like just berating fans of other teams that have the
- 54:29Speaker 2: audacity to go to their stadium. I just just because
- 54:33Speaker 2: of Eagles fans, because I'm sure that the players in
- 54:36Speaker 2: the front office as much as Nick Sirian, it kind
- 54:38Speaker 2: of looks like a jerk. I'm sure the players, everybody's
- 54:41Speaker 2: good people in Philadelphia, but the fans, I just them
- 54:46Speaker 2: and Lions fans. I hope they never see their team
- 54:48Speaker 2: win again just because they're awful. So Chiefs for me,
- 54:51Speaker 2: go Chiefs.
- 54:53Speaker 1: I'm definitely neutral on the game. I really don't care,
- 54:57Speaker 1: and it's the two teams that I didn't want.
- 55:00Speaker 3: To see in the game.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we were all rooting for a Buffalo
- 55:04Speaker 2: Washington Super Bowl and that didn't happen.
- 55:07Speaker 1: So I'm definitely with the rest of America on that one.
- 55:10Speaker 1: I'll watch it, but uninterestedly.
- 55:15Speaker 2: All right, Dustin, before we wrap up, is there anything
- 55:17Speaker 2: you want to plug anything you want to point out,
- 55:19Speaker 2: any new stuff you've got going on or old stuff. Anyways,
- 55:22Speaker 2: Vikingsterritory dot com is where we write all day about
- 55:26Speaker 2: the off season. Mikes now get stuff published about four
- 55:29Speaker 2: or five times per week. And then dus Baker on Twitter,
- 55:33Speaker 2: you guys should have me back on like three or
- 55:35Speaker 2: four weeks from tonight because we will be on free
- 55:37Speaker 2: agency Eve will be like a week away, and by
- 55:40Speaker 2: that time, I'm sure we'll have indications of whether or
- 55:42Speaker 2: not Darnold's coming back, who they're going to let test
- 55:45Speaker 2: the free agent waters. So if you pencil me in
- 55:47Speaker 2: like four weeks from tonight, we'll have a pretty exciting
- 55:50Speaker 2: show because free agency. To me, I'm a very severe minority.
- 55:55Speaker 2: To me, free agency is more exciting than the draft.
- 55:58Speaker 2: But I know that that that isn't sued by everybody. Yeah,
- 56:02Speaker 2: I agree with you, especially with I think I'm in
- 56:06Speaker 2: the majority of thinking Quacy. We trust him way more
- 56:09Speaker 2: in free agency than in the draft. If he traded
- 56:13Speaker 2: a first round pick for a young, elite player, I'd
- 56:17Speaker 2: be perfectly fine with that, just because he hasn't proven
- 56:20Speaker 2: that he can do anything consistently amazing in the draft.
- 56:24Speaker 2: Let's hope JJ McCarthy proves that point wrong, and then
- 56:28Speaker 2: Dallas Turner once he gets his opportunity, let's hope he
- 56:31Speaker 2: proves that point wrong. But yeah, free agency. I'm in
- 56:33Speaker 2: the same boat as you, Dustin. I'm super excited for that.
- 56:37Speaker 3: It's just right.
- 56:38Speaker 2: Recording right then, right before it starts is so dangerous.
- 56:41Speaker 2: We were recording an episode of The Skull Hop the
- 56:45Speaker 2: night before Sam Darnald was signed, and I think we even,
- 56:48Speaker 2: like I was listening back to it today, we laughed
- 56:50Speaker 2: about it, like, Okay, it could be Sam Donald. Oh really,
- 56:53Speaker 2: and like three hours later he signed with the team,
- 56:56Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, we hadn't even released our episode.
- 57:00Speaker 2: So it's a dangerous time to put out recorded content.
- 57:04Speaker 2: But you do it about a week in advance, so
- 57:06Speaker 2: that would March fourth or March fifth or something like that.
- 57:10Speaker 2: Sounds great. All right, gentlemen, all right, well, thanks again
- 57:14Speaker 2: Dustin for having us on, Evan.
- 57:15Speaker 3: Having us on.
- 57:16Speaker 1: We have you on.
- 57:17Speaker 2: Thanks again for coming on, Evan, anything else you want
- 57:20Speaker 2: to say before we wrap it up.
- 57:21Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming one.
- 57:24Speaker 2: We'll talk to you. Yeah, we'll reach out to you.
- 57:26Speaker 2: We get that scheduled, So thanks again. Yep. Later.
- 57:29Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome back. Thanks for hanging out with
- 57:32Speaker 1: us as we were able to chat with Dustin Baker
- 57:35Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time.
- 57:37Speaker 2: First time this year twenty twenty five.
- 57:39Speaker 1: It is great.
- 57:40Speaker 2: Thank you Dustin for coming back on. It's always great.
- 57:42Speaker 2: I am kind of surprised. We spent a lot of
- 57:44Speaker 2: time talking about Cooper Cup and it was a good conversation.
- 57:47Speaker 2: I'm surprised we never mentioned good old Adam Thielings.
- 57:50Speaker 1: You know, his name was rattling around in the back
- 57:53Speaker 1: of my head and I had this impulse to throw
- 57:55Speaker 1: that out there, but we weren't really kind of making
- 57:58Speaker 1: our way that way in the conversation, so I let
- 58:00Speaker 1: it go. But I'm with you there, and boy, he's
- 58:03Speaker 1: out there, and I know he's in his last year
- 58:06Speaker 1: of his contract with the Panthers, but.
- 58:08Speaker 2: It's an expensive contract. I wouldn't be shocked to see
- 58:10Speaker 2: how I'm feeling again on the market. Not that he
- 58:13Speaker 2: doesn't deserve, you know, all the money that he's set
- 58:16Speaker 2: to make in the next season, but they might go
- 58:19Speaker 2: elsewhere and.
- 58:20Speaker 1: Maybe he takes the hometown discount and says, yeah, you
- 58:22Speaker 1: know what, I want to end my career where I
- 58:24Speaker 1: started it.
- 58:24Speaker 2: And maybe I'd be okay with that as long as
- 58:27Speaker 2: it wasn't too too price a year it didn't cost him.
- 58:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he fits in that wide receiver three category,
- 58:35Speaker 1: kind of like what Dustin was talking about, Like the
- 58:37Speaker 1: Vikings haven't had that true wide receiver three. And I
- 58:40Speaker 1: mean he was the wide receiver two for so long
- 58:43Speaker 1: when wide receiver one, really he was, and then when
- 58:46Speaker 1: JJ got on the scene, he kind of he happily
- 58:50Speaker 1: I think, fit into that two role and played it
- 58:52Speaker 1: really well too, because he was still really dynamic. I
- 58:55Speaker 1: still think he has a little bit of juice left
- 58:57Speaker 1: in him. Oh yeah, it would be fun and it
- 59:00Speaker 1: would be redeeming for the jersey that you got me
- 59:02Speaker 1: last year to see him in purple once.
- 59:04Speaker 2: He'd have to take that nineteen back from Brett Rippian,
- 59:07Speaker 2: but I think that'd be pretty easy. Well, that would
- 59:11Speaker 2: be a fun thing to talk about. I would spend
- 59:13Speaker 2: a whole episode talking about that, because I don't think
- 59:16Speaker 2: he has been a Viking at all for a single
- 59:19Speaker 2: minute of the skull Hoops existence.
- 59:23Speaker 1: I think you're right.
- 59:24Speaker 2: I think he was let go right before we started
- 59:26Speaker 2: recording in early twenty twenty three, so that would be
- 59:29Speaker 2: fun to talk about.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Agreed for sure. Well, maybe that happens, maybe it doesn't.
- 59:35Speaker 3: We'll see.
- 59:36Speaker 1: But one thing's for sure. We had some pretty good beards.
- 59:39Speaker 3: Yeah, we did.
- 59:40Speaker 1: I was.
- 59:40Speaker 2: I was really surprised by this one. I think initially
- 59:44Speaker 2: it kind of hit me as like really sweet and
- 59:46Speaker 2: kind of tart, but definitely a sour.
- 59:49Speaker 1: The name alone, what's the name? I can't remember. I
- 59:52Speaker 1: got to read it off the can still because it's
- 59:54Speaker 1: five words and I just don't have the attention span
- 59:57Speaker 1: to memorize it. It's a Reunion Brewery, out of eye
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: a City, Mega Cake, stupid dessert sour. Yeah, and again,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: like I said at the beginning of the episode, this
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: beer has been kind of staring me down at the
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: store for the better part of a year, Like it's
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: just it's just been sitting there and it's just been
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: tempting me, like pick me up, just got me, try
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: bring me home, let's let's try this. And so finally
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: I did it, and I said I said that I
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: would do it last week. I'm in episode seventy seven,
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: so here we are. I'm a man of my word. Yep,
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: we did it. We came, we saw we conquered, and
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: I'd buy this again.
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: So that's the thing I think, because earlier before we
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: talked to Dustin, we tried this and I said, I
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: don't know, I'm probably not, you know, like purposely pick
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: this one up again. But I'm surprised that I like it.
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: I think I'm what's more accurate is if we were
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: at Reunion Brewery or somewhere else that had a lot
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: of Reunion beers, and I'd had a couple, but I
- 1:00:50Speaker 2: wanted something different, maybe not another hazy IPA. If I
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: saw this on the list, I could see myself getting
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: one or one or two. I don't know if i'd
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: ever get like a six pack just for myself, because
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: it's not my category of beers, but I wouldn't be
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: mad if somebody gave me one, or if, like you know,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: I just ordered one or two, that'd be fine. This
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: is a fine beer. The flavors are great. It's it
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: doesn't say it's a smoothie sour, but it kind of
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: gives that feel that way, like there's a ton of sediment.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: It's almost like they just like juice the blueberries right
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: into the which is fine. I mean, an unfiltered beer
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: isn't always bad like this. This works. This weirdly works.
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: And for someone like me that loves a dark beer
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: or definitely a hazy I pa this one again. Well
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: it's not my category of beers.
- 1:01:42Speaker 3: It works.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: And if somebody said this was their favorite, like I
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: said earlier, I'd believe them and I could see why.
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not bad.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: It's it's really easy drinking. It's not the like super
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: tart sour. It's got a little bit of that tartness
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: to it, but it's not gonna make you, you know,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: fuck or your lips and yeah, you know that sort
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: of thing. So really good. I enjoyed it. I'll definitely
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: get this again, probably because my wife will want to try.
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: I think she's a little jealous that we didn't get
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: enough for her to try, But.
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: That's all right.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: Just you make it up to her. Vountaine's Day is
- 1:02:13Speaker 2: coming up, Yeah you can.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: You can get her some man.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: You know what else is coming up. I'm going to
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: join you in the the area of almost mid thirties
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: the next couple of days, So that's true. Yeah, yeah,
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: thirty four thirty four. It's a if you're thirty four
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: or above, let us know. Is that a good year?
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: I guess Evan, you can let me know if that's
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: a good year. But a lot of people I work
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: with are like, man, you're still so young, and I'm like, no,
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: I'm in my mid thirties.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: Now, that's not hurts when I wake up.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: Yeah, my back hurt's just from sitting in this chair
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: for an hour. Yeah, it's better than those child's chairs
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: from a few weeks. That's definitely true. Well, let's wrap
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- 1:04:05Speaker 2: Another thing too, just kind of soft letting our listeners know.
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: We're gonna, hopefully this off season, because NFL off season
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: can be a quiet time, we're gonna try to release
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: a few episodes that are a little bit different than
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: our normal just talking head episodes, a little storytelling, little history,
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: little little outside the box. We have potentially a beer
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: that we're gonna brew here in the next few weeks.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: That'll be that's not a potential thing, like you were
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: just texting with friend of the show for us. Yeah,
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: he's got the ingredients. We are brewing it. In fact,
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: Episode seventy nine will be a little preview to the
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: skull Hoop Brew two point zero. Yeah, just this coming week,
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: so next week, be on the lookout for that. If
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: you're into beer, home brewing, anything like that. We're gonna
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: have Forest on. Hopefully he's able to bring some of
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: the ingredients that we're gonna brew with. We'll talk through
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: some of the that we'll kind of maybe compare and
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: contrast last year's beer that we brewed to this year's
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: beer that we're gonna brew. And then of course episode
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: eighty is going to be all about the brew and
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: we're gonna be brew Hop. Yeah, not the brew Tour,
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: the brew Hop, the brew Hop.
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:05:15Speaker 1: We'll be on location, probably in your garage. It's got
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: to be in Iowa unless it's too cold.
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: We'll see what the weather's like. If we need to relocate,
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: we might have to do that, but yeah, we'll be
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: somewhere in Iowa, probably your garage, yep, brewing, and we'll
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: try to capture that and kind of go through the process.
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: I think at one point last year we just kind
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: of circled up some lawn chairs and sat down and
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: talked anything and everything football. That was before JJ McCarthy
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: was even a forethought of the Vikings.
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: It was just beginning. Maybe he could be a second
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: round pick. That's what we were talking about last year.
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: Sure enough, here we are and you know, the perennial
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: first round pick and the future of the franchise. So
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: who knows what we'll talk about this year and how
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: that could affect the Vikings future. But I'm excited about
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks because we're going to do
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: We're going to do a follow up episode two. So
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: post brew, we'll have forrest On one more time back
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: here at the desk, and we'll talk about our experience
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: with the brew, talk about like all the different things
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: we smelled and tasted while we were brewing, because that's
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: an important part too the brewing process, is just being
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: able to kind of smell and taste things along the
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: way as you craft something to drink.
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: And while we're brewing, we'll be drinking a beer two
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: because the beer you brew doesn't count unless you drink
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: a beer while you're brewing.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Absolutely right, So Iowa Beer of course, Coroy's Iowa Beer
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: for us. But yeah, be on the lookout for like
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: probably the next three episodes, those are going to be
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: focused on brewing this next batch of the skull Hot beer. Yeah,
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: so I'm excited for it, all right?
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: It well, Episode seventy eight it was great. We got
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: to talk to talk to Dustin for the first time
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: in a while. I had a lot of fun, great beer.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: Maybe the best episode yet.
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