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Episode 15: Insidious (2010) · Take #2: Movie Reviews

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  Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition
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  of the Take to Pod with Mum and Dad.
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  I'm Dad. And I'm mom.
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  The kids are asleep and nestled in their comfy little beds.
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  They've been asleep for awhile. Honestly, we're we're, we're
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  recording this one pretty late. That's all right.
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  The later, the scarier. It was a pretty good night.
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  Little man was at grandma's tonight so it's just me and the
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  little lady who had a girls night.
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  Yeah, I dropped him off there cause I had a few things I had
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  to take care of. So we had a blast and Grandma
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  had a blast too, so it's always nice to be able to do that.
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  Thank God we have your mom nearby because she she really
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  takes a lot of the toddler load off of our plates.
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  Like sometimes it's just it's nice to have that extra and I
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  know a lot of people don't have that luxury, so we're very
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  lucky. Yeah, sometimes on weekends we
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  just drop them there for a couple hours.
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  It really it makes everything a lot easier.
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  Yeah, for sure. Well, anyways, not a big drama
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  night. Pretty drama free with the kids.
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  So yeah. So let's get on with the show,
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  ladies and gentlemen. Normal Mom, it's not the house
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  that's haunted, it's your son. This week, we're talking.
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  About Insidious. Very Very spooky This Week
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  released in 2010, directed by James Wan, written by Lee Wenell
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  and starring Patrick Wilson, Rose Byrne and Ty Simpkins.
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  Don't forget Lynn Shea, she's a huge part of this.
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  Series amazing. Yeah, yeah, the overall series
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  is is really revolves around her in the later movies.
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  She's fucking legend in this movie.
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  So yeah, like you said, Ty Simpkins plays Dalton.
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  He plays the young boy James Wan and Leonel tag team.
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  Um, those guys are known for their horror movies and
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  honestly, they're legends now in the horror genre.
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  And they're really like peanut butter and Jelly and the horror
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  scene, they go really well together.
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  I agree. So the synopsis of Insidious.
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  The story centres on a married couple whose boy mysteriously
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  enters a comatose state and becomes a vessel for a variety
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  of demonic entities in an astral plane.
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  Yo. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo
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  Doo Doo. That's lost.
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  That's the lost theme. But it goes well because it's
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  this movie is freaking scary and honestly, this is a fucking
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  legendary movie. I'm not even gonna like this.
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  It's so good. Box office $1.5 million budget
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  and it made $100 million in the box office, so it's fucking like
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  it made 100 times its money, which is crazy.
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  It's crazy how low budget it is considering it has really big
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  actors in it. Well, they, if you think about
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  it, it's, you know, it's set in homes mainly.
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  There's no real other shots. There's only one other scene
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  outside where it's like a hospital, but it's just a
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  hallway. And then there's a scene in the
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  school in the classroom. So that's pretty low.
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  Budget and in the further they pretty much only use practical
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  effects. There's not very much CGI
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  involved. Yeah, it's it's really well
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  done. Like they they have this like
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  this is Blumhouse, right? So they have this now down to a
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  formula, low budget movie, high return, low budget movie, high
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  return. And we're going to get into that
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  in a little bit. But when and where did you watch
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  this Mom first time? So it's funny, when dad and I
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  first started dating, we talked about whether or not we liked
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  horror movies. And I said that yes, I I do like
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  horror movies. But honestly, since being with
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  you, my love for horror movies has grown.
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  But somewhere in that, like, first or second year that we
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  were together, yeah, we were talking about the scariest
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  movies we had ever seen. Yeah.
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  And I told you the scariest movie I had ever seen at that
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  point was The Conjuring. Oh yeah, you saw it.
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  Yeah, we saw that separately. Yeah, because we were together
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  when that first came out. But I was I had gone camping
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  that year. We left the campsite, we went to
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  see Conjuring, and then we went back to the campsite, and
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  everyone was too scared to sleep.
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  But I said Conjuring, you said the scariest movie you've ever
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  seen was Insidious. That's funny.
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  And I said I've never seen it. And you said there's a scene in
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  this movie that's so scary I can't even describe it, where a
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  guy is sitting at a dining room table talking to people.
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  Yeah. And this face shows up behind
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  him. And I can't even describe the
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  face because it's the scariest thing I've ever seen.
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  It's fucking terrifying. The Darth Maul.
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  The Darth Maul demon. Lipstick Demon.
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  And we, we watched it, but The funny thing is we had already
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  seen Insidious 2 together at that point.
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  Yeah, cause we went to the drive in.
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  Which was also terrifying. Which was also terrifying
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  because we had the windows rolled down and it was a summer
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  night that was a little bit cold.
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  Yeah, it was a cooler somewhere, night, end of summer.
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  And no, it wasn't of summer, it was beginning of summer.
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  Yeah, it was early. It was early in the summer.
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  I had like a weird burp sound like reset.
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  No, it's kind of. It was early in the summer.
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  We had the windows down, yeah. And the movie started and was
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  starting getting into. It pitch black at the drive-in.
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  Yeah, and we got so freaked out we had to roll the windows up
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  and lock. The doors, the opening, the
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  opening credits started and it had that iconic violin screaming
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  sound that the violins make. And it said Insidious Chapter 2
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  and you we both looked at each other and were like, let's roll
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  the windows up like it was freezing cold.
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  And the the just the sound of the movie just scared the living
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  crap out of us. So yeah, it was freaky.
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  And in watching this movie this time too, it's it's very, it's
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  very spooky. It really gives you the chills
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  and freaks you out and it it stays with you.
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  If you love horror movies, this movie is fucking amazing.
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  It's phenomenal. This is one of the scariest
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  movies ever. I think so too.
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  It is one of the scariest movies in of all time.
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  Modern day. You take it back like 30-40
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  years, You want to compare it to the classics.
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  It's just so well done. There's it's not perfect, it's a
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  horror movie, but it's so freaking good.
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  It is. So anyway, very Long story
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  short, I had already seen the second one.
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  We talked about the first one. You were like, you have to see
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  it. Yeah.
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  So we watched it and it was so freaky and I was freaked out.
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  And then ever since then, it's just always been like on our
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  list of movies to watch if we want to really be freaked out,
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  and we've watched it many times. Together we need a good scare or
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  if we have a guest that comes and visits and we want to watch
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  a wicked movie in the basement to take advantage of the sound
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  and the the big screen or like, oh, have you seen Insidious?
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  And if they say no or if they seen if you seen Conjuring
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  because they go hand in hand. So conjuring episode is
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  definitely gonna happen. Don't worry, actor James Want.
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  But if they said no to any one of those, we're like, we're
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  watching it and it's never a disappointment.
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  It's always scaring everyone. But what's your first time, Dad?
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  So my first time watching Insidious, I was alone in my
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  bedroom and it's the middle of the afternoon and I was on my
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  bed and I had it on a laptop. So I had it with a laptop, like
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  maybe a 15 inch laptop and some really good headphones and I'm
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  just sitting in my bed watching it like I think I had a snack or
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  something. It was daylight but I scared the
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  shit out of myself. I was scared out of my mind.
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  Because this movie doesn't mess. Around does not mess around you.
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  If you put headphones on and you listening to it, like watching
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  it on a small screen, you could be on an airplane watching this
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  movie with headphones. It's still gonna freak you out.
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  That would be freaky actually watching it on airplane.
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  The the one scene in particular that you mentioned that I was
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  telling you about, like I couldn't describe that scene,
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  watching it by myself on a laptop for the first time.
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  I think I threw my laptop across the room like I jumped.
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  What's wrong with you? Why would you watch this by
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  yourself? Because it's just torture
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  gangster like that man, It's so good.
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  It's so. You can't watch any horror movie
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  alone, you have to watch it with.
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  Someone I've watched some horror movies alone.
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  Even the ones that aren't scary, you watch them alone and they
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  they spook you out a little bit. But.
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  Yeah, watching a horror movie alone is like raw dogging a
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  flight without headphones. You just staring at the the seat
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  in front of you. It's it's that level.
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  But it's terrible comparison. So one night you weren't here
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  but you were on a girls trip. I I never told you this.
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  I was here by myself and I watched Insidious by myself in
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  the basement. Before we had kids.
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  Before we had kids. Get fucked.
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  Yeah, I was terrified, but I was like Chip, I was Chip committed.
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  I'm like, listen, I never told you this because I didn't want
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  to scare you, but I got up to leave the basement.
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  So I go up the stairs and the movies done.
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  And you heard the crackling sound.
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  No, no, no, worse. It's like 3 in the morning or
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  two in the morning or something. The movie is done.
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  So I turn to my right and you know, our back window with the
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  living room, the curtain was a little bit open and you can see
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  the bottom of the window. And my mind put the the the long
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  haired demon face guy, the one that's hanging outside Rose
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  Byrne's room. And I was like why the fuck did
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  I just do this myself? So calls the police #1 yes, it
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  was too serious with myself. I think there's a fucking long
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  haired demon fiend outside my room.
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  No, seriously, I I went up, I turned the lights off, I went
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  upstairs, I tried to like get it out of my mind and I fucking
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  went and laid down. I don't know what I was
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  thinking. Why did?
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  That that's But I can't believe you like choosing that movie to
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  watch by yourself. Sometimes you just want to shoot
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  yourself, you know, like you know, laxatives required.
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  Just put insidious, put conjuring by yourself.
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  Question says or conjuring by myself, and I never will.
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  The scariest movie I ever watched by myself was Sinister.
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  Thug life. You gotta live the thug life
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  sometimes. No, dude.
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  So why do you love or hate this movie?
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  I mean, we've kind of already said this.
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  We both love this movie because it's so scary and we we love it.
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  We really love a good a good horror movie.
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  Yeah. So I just, I like it that it's
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  scary and I like that it's still can scare the shit out of.
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  Me it's 16 year is 16 years old now and.
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  I've seen it at least 10. Times.
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  And it's still terrifying. And we watched it and it was
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  still really scary. Jump scares still gets you.
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  Everything about this movie is terrifying, and one of my
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  favorite things about this is that it put a halt to the
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  torture porn era. It just stopped it in its
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  tracks. I have something about that.
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  Cultural impact like which is oddly enough started by James
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  Wan and Leonel, which sought with saw, you know, like aside
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  from hostile they they started Saw and they're like the first
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  saw movie was a masterpiece. And that was almost, I think the
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  budget for that was like half a million and it made so much and
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  they made like 11. What I'm saying like these guys
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  are, these guys are real talent. The the scares of this Insidious
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  still are rock solid. It's unsettling like the whole
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  movie from the opening credits. It's so eerie and unsettling.
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  Yeah, I remember one time we watched it, I think it was
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  Halloween, and we we hadn't watched it in years.
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  So we put it on and just the opening scene where it zooms
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  into the the mirror in the bathroom, we both looked at each
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  other like, Nope, Nope. I think we turned it off.
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  I think we were just like, now I think so we're like, let's try
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  this tomorrow. Like we were fucking not
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  happening. It was not.
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  Happening, yeah. You have to wanna be terrified,
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  yeah. Just for some reason, it was
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  ultra scary that night. But yeah, we I love this movie.
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  It's I would put a poster in the basement, but I'm I'm afraid
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  that the red faced demon is going to come be.
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  Like, yeah, we don't, we don't want to invite that shit in.
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  So let's so let's get into the segments.
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  So do you want to go first for cringiest moments?
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  Yeah, it's, you know, it's a horror movie.
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  It's pretty clean in terms of clinginess.
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  Yeah, there's not a lot of Prince.
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  Had a hard time. The only one honestly, is the
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  CGI shot of the lipstick demon climbing the walls in the third
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  act. Kind of takes you out of the
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  movie for a minute. Also, like, it's super
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  unnecessary. I don't know why they kept it in
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  because the CGI is really bad. He's like climbing the side of
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  the wall in the bedroom. Yeah, like why is that there?
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  Like it's the practical effects of the demon, like in the
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  costume is fucking really good. Why is there a easy eye?
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  Version, yeah. Especially if you're budgets
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  low. It's it's adding some urgency of
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  Dalton getting back to his body, which is why they did that.
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  Sure, cause like there had to be like something like preventing
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  him from getting back to his body.
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  But it was. It was weird and it was
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  unnecessary. Yeah, that's the only thing I
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  would like honestly, if if they redid this as a director's cut
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  or something. I mean I know James Wan has a
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  lot of control over his movies but that I would redo with new
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  CGI or I would just remove it. Yeah, so lot.
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  So for me, the cringiest moment is actually the demon nail
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  filing. It feels very cartoonish that
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  this terrifying demon is sitting up in his little sewing room
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  filing his nails. It's freaky though.
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  He's like, you weigh right here, little boy.
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  I'm gonna go get my nails done like this.
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  This movie turns into RuPaul's Drag Race for a minute.
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  This fucking. Darth Maul's drag race.
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  Drag Race, Yeah, it doesn't really make sense that he's.
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  Do you understand why I'm calling it Darth Maul?
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  Yeah, because his face is. Like, yeah, he looks like Darth
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  Maul. He does.
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  He does look. Like episode 1 The Phantom
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  Menace. He does look like Darth Maul.
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  Underrated. Star Wars movie in addition to
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  that, I'm not going to call it cringy, but sure, Specs and
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  Tucker are a little bit. Corny.
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  Yeah, it's awesome. The first half of the half of
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  this movie is, like, very scary and suspenseful.
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  And then Specs and Tucker show up, and I thought they were
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  trying to, like, add some Comic Relief to relieve some of the
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  intense tension with them bickering while they're
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  investigating the haunting. But it clashes with the rest of
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  the film. At least being warm and friendly
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  works well because she's like a light in the darkness.
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  Yeah, but the two of them coming in, bickering and fumbling
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  around, it just makes them seem unprofessional and makes them
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  seem like they don't know what they're doing.
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  I don't think so. As if you were.
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  I lose confidence in them. I'm like, do these dumb asses
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  know what they're? Doing well.
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  The thing is, it's ghost hunting.
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  There's no like instruction manual for it.
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  I liked it. I thought it brought a little
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  bit of levity, but you know what?
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  It didn't Take Me Out of the movie.
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  I've watched it dozens and dozens of.
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  Times it doesn't. I forget they're there.
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  I forget they're in it. The clashes with the tone of the
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  movie a little bit. I guess, but the tone kind of
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  changes near the end. It does.
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  The second-half of this movie is very.
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  Every time they appear I'm like, Oh yeah, these guys are in it
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  and I'm pleasantly like I'm happy cause it's actually just
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  like an entertaining part of the movie.
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  Yeah, I don't just like them, but it's a, it is interesting,
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  OK. You won't like what I have to
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  say later, but anyways, no I. No, I like them.
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  I'm just saying like I I don't think it necessarily is cringy,
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  but it's it's a tone change. That's the kind of jarring.
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  Yeah, there's. No real comedy up until that in
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  the movie. It's pretty.
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  It's pretty straightforward. It does.
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  Need some relief at that point though, because like, well.
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  The thing is getting. Fucked up movies.
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  Like it's full tension the whole time.
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  It's just like. My kids in a coma and there our
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  lives are miserable. It sucks, OK?
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  What's the most iconic scene? What do you got?
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  So I like when Elise explains it's not the house that's
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  haunted. It's your son.
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  Your. Son isn't in Acoma.
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  Falling off the ladder had nothing to do with this.
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  His physical body is here, but his spiritual body is not.
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  And the reason these disturbances, they followed you
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  to a new home is because it's not the house that's haunted.
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  It's your. Son.
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  Yeah, like gives. You chills?
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  Yeah. That whole section of that movie
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  is great, yeah. She's like, she comes in, she
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  comes and speaks to Dalton. She looks at the roof like he's
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  got. Oh yeah, we're describing it in
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  the ceiling. Oh fuck, that's scary.
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  OK, it's freaking me out. It's.
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  Freaky when she looks up in the corner and just that whole scene
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  because finally someone is telling them what's wrong with
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  their son. They've been, they've seen a
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  bunch of doctors, bunch of nurses.
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  Nobody can explain. Yeah, Elise is like he's astral
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  projecting. I mean, as as a parent, I'd be
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  like, shut the fuck up and get out of my house.
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  But yeah, in as a viewer of the movie, I'm like, finally
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  somebody I don't know. Man, like there's some stuff
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  that happens in this movie and you're just like, oh, what would
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  you do as a parent? But anyway, for me, the most
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  iconic scene, it was a tough, tough pick because there's so
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  many good scenes in this movie that stick to your brain.
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  Like the one where the the demon guys standing behind Patrick
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  Wilson. Like that's I'm.
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  Literally getting chills just talking about it.
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  There's a little crackling sound every time that he's near um,
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  and then it cuts to Patrick Wilson.
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  He's there. But my most iconic for me is
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  tiptoe. Through the tulips.
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  That fucking whole scene is very unsettling.
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  When Renee is walking through the house, yeah.
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  Because they just moved. They're like, OK, we're cool,
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  let's move on. We don't know what's gonna
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  happen. We escaped.
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  This haunted house she's walking?
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  Through the house. It's a steady Cam shot and James
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  Wan is a master at doing this and a lot of new directors are
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  doing this with the their horror movies.
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  There's a wide, not a wide shot, but there's a lot of open doors
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  and windows in the background for the audience to like look,
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  you're hunting as an audience member.
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  You're watching and it's not just the the actor, you're
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  you're seeing the actor, but you seen three open doors and you're
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  seeing a window, you're seeing a picture.
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  So you're looking, you're hunting for stuff and then and.
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  If you watch carefully, you see. A fucking little boy in a cheese
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  cutter hat in the corner facing the wall like Blair Witch style.
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  And you're like, not. Moving you're like.
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  And then that's exactly the sound I made.
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  And then it keeps walking. She keeps walking.
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  She goes on to throw the trash. One of her songs is playing like
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  on a record, I think. And then as she's throwing the
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  trash out, the like the cameras following her out the window and
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  you hear the record scratch and then tiptoe through the tulips
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  plays and she's like, what the fuck?
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  And then it cuts like to the record player and you see this
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  same boy, he's fucking dancing. He's tap dancing in front of it.
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  Perfect. And she sees them through.
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  The window she's like what the fuck is that?
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  That whole. Sequence to me is the most
• 19:44
  iconic because that song is ruined.
• 19:47
  That was a cute little song for kids and now it's destroyed for
• 19:52
  a whole generation. Nobody's playing that anywhere.
• 19:55
  If you hear that song in your home, you're fucking running 1.
• 19:59
  Time. Yes, I was working from home.
• 20:02
  Yeah, you tell the story and I. Was pregnant.
• 20:05
  Thank you very much, Dick. And I am upstairs.
• 20:09
  My office was upstairs and I hear that song blasting in the
• 20:14
  house and I walk into the upstairs hallway and I'm like,
• 20:19
  somebody, somebody's broken in, somebody's broken in.
• 20:22
  And they turned on the Alexa for some reason, and they realized
• 20:25
  it was that fucking song. Oh yeah.
• 20:27
  And I just hear tip toe through the window.
• 20:32
  So I lean over the banister and I go Alexa stop and then it
• 20:38
  fucking turns on again and I knew it was dad pranking me so.
• 20:44
  Yeah, I I scared the living shit out of you.
• 20:46
  I tried to anyway, I was at work and I'm like, you could control
• 20:50
  Alexa from your phone. So if you want to do a prank on
• 20:53
  your partner, this, just listen up.
• 20:54
  You can control Alexa from your phone.
• 20:56
  And what I did was I played on Spotify, played that song and
• 21:02
  had it played through the Alexa, and then you turned the.
• 21:05
  Alexa up to fucking like 9. I turned.
• 21:07
  It up all the way to 10 and I had the we have a little
• 21:13
  security camera and I was watching and I could hear the
• 21:16
  music playing and then I heard you shout from upstairs and then
• 21:20
  I played it again and then you called me because I.
• 21:22
  Realized it was you after I was freaked.
• 21:25
  Out it was daylight and also you were home alone.
• 21:27
  You didn't mention that. Like that's scary, bro.
• 21:30
  Yeah. Fuck you.
• 21:31
  I was home by myself, working from home, and then I heard that
• 21:34
  shit blasting and I was like, what?
• 21:37
  Hey, I don't know, I just got the idea.
• 21:39
  I'm like, yo, we gotta, we gotta scare you don't.
• 21:41
  Fucking do that. Alright, alright.
• 21:44
  But yeah, that's my favorite. That's my most iconic moment in
• 21:47
  that movie. That's.
• 21:48
  Yeah, that was almost, that was almost my pick.
• 21:50
  But I really like Elise and like her supernatural gift, so I
• 21:53
  wanted to talk about her. OK, we got quotes.
• 21:56
  Yeah, so I have Josh Lambert seeing the picture of the bride
• 22:00
  and he says who is she? And Elise says a parasite.
• 22:04
  She befriended your astral body and lured you into the further,
• 22:08
  just as Dalton has been. I'm getting chills just hearing
• 22:12
  those. Mel was a sick fuck if you wrote
• 22:15
  the screenplay. He did write the screenplay for
• 22:17
  this. Yeah, he.
• 22:18
  Did He's really smart. I got Lorraine here.
• 22:21
  I came today because last night. This is a Patrick, Patrick
• 22:25
  Wilson's mom. I came today because last night
• 22:28
  I had a dream about this place. I was in this house, but it was
• 22:32
  late at night. I was afraid.
• 22:34
  I went into your bedroom, but you were both asleep.
• 22:38
  I knew I was asleep in the dream, but I could feel that
• 22:41
  someone was awake in the house doing a fucking finish this
• 22:46
  loose. Stop.
• 22:47
  Yeah, I know. I went to Dalton's room and
• 22:49
  there was something there with him.
• 22:56
  It was standing there in the corner.
• 23:03
  I asked it who are you? And it said it was a visitor.
• 23:11
  I said what do you want? It said Dalton.
• 23:22
  I can still hear that voice. It's fucking.
• 23:25
  Terrible points to him with it's like long ass claws.
• 23:28
  God, yeah, that had just. Been sharpening OHS.
• 23:30
  Yeah, well, I don't know where you got the belt Sander.
• 23:34
  Like where did you get that? That's what that's.
• 23:35
  Why it's got that? In the further is he's.
• 23:37
  Like the Grinch in that scene, he's like up on Mount Crumpets,
• 23:40
  Crumpets sharpening his claws. What else you got?
• 23:44
  This is the first line of a joke, right?
• 23:46
  A guy comes home to find his wife with a priest.
• 23:48
  Yeah. That's that.
• 23:49
  See that Patrick Wilson in this, He was really good.
• 23:52
  Also Patrick screamed Daddy, will you wanna call him scream
• 23:57
  King? The guy is fucking in two of the
• 23:58
  biggest franchises in horror. You know, like I hope he got
• 24:03
  like I hope he got residuals on these movies, man, because he's
• 24:07
  the fucking like what do you scream King?
• 24:09
  He can you not call? Him a scream daddy?
• 24:11
  That's really fucking weird. I don't know, just kidding that
• 24:15
  any. Scream King.
• 24:17
  Not quick, not kinky enough. Scream Daddy.
• 24:23
  Um, OK, I got the voice on the baby monitor.
• 24:44
  What get I want it. Oh my God, that's if I heard
• 25:01
  that shit on our baby monitor. I would kill myself.
• 25:05
  I would just. Throw everything in the garbage.
• 25:07
  Guy would kill. He's burning the house down.
• 25:09
  Never put our. Baby in that room again after
• 25:11
  everything. Down and start over.
• 25:13
  I'd be like. She's not going.
• 25:14
  She puts her baby back in that room.
• 25:16
  After that, there's a lot of. Things that this movie like I'm
• 25:19
  anyway, I'll talk about it shortly, but like there's some
• 25:22
  things I nitpicks I have for the movie, but go ahead.
• 25:25
  What's your next quote you? May be a superhero buddy, but
• 25:28
  you're not invincible. What's after Dalton falls
• 25:30
  because he likes to wear his little superhero Cape?
• 25:32
  Yeah. That's really cute.
• 25:34
  Yeah, I have Tucker and specs a pictures worth 1000 words.
• 25:39
  Words are worth 1000 words too. When they're they're arguing
• 25:42
  about making a book about like their their goes hunting.
• 25:46
  I think it's pretty funny. Yeah.
• 25:48
  Now you're outside, Let my voice be your guide.
• 25:51
  Keep a steady stride into the further you go.
• 25:56
  It's not the house that's haunted.
• 25:58
  It's your son. Fucking so sick.
• 26:00
  Because in every movie you're always telling us like, you're
• 26:03
  the audience, like, just fucking leave the house, right?
• 26:06
  Like in Poltergeist, like, just move out.
• 26:09
  Just leave the house. And they did.
• 26:10
  They did. And it came out good deeds.
• 26:13
  Fucking scary, man. It's really, really unsettling.
• 26:17
  But yeah, it doesn't have a lot of quotes, but you know, some of
• 26:21
  them are are pretty, pretty bomb, Yeah.
• 26:23
  It's not necessarily like that quotable of a movie.
• 26:26
  It's more so the story that takes you just on this emotional
• 26:30
  ride. Yeah, so classic or cancelled
• 26:34
  dad this. Movie, like I said, it ruined a
• 26:37
  whimsical, innocent song for a whole group of people.
• 26:41
  The Tiny Tim song yeah. So that is I mean, it's not
• 26:46
  cancelled, but it's it's a classic and this movie is
• 26:49
  compared to a lot of other classics like Poltergeist from
• 26:52
  1982. Oh, can.
• 26:54
  I jump in because I was also my sure classic or cancelled.
• 26:57
  So like Dad said, this movie is a landmark of modern horror and
• 27:00
  was able to cause dread and fear viewers, which makes it a
• 27:03
  beloved classic still. Does.
• 27:06
  But there are a lot of people that call it a RIP off of
• 27:08
  Poltergeist because the similarities are uncanny.
• 27:12
  Both feature a young child being targeted by evil spirits leading
• 27:18
  to a coma like state, and both utilize A psychic medium to help
• 27:22
  the parents navigate the spiritual realm.
• 27:24
  But that's. Like saying, OK, Jason and
• 27:26
  Freddy Krueger and like, Michael Myers are all ripped off of each
• 27:29
  other, Yeah. Actually, they're wildly
• 27:32
  different here's, especially in the way that they're in the
• 27:35
  spiritual round, like the little girls in the TV.
• 27:37
  That's all we see of it. Daltons in the further and then
• 27:39
  we see the further the poltergeist doesn't do anything.
• 27:42
  Like, here's the thing with. Horror movies, and a lot of
• 27:44
  people like horror movies, don't get the respect that they
• 27:47
  deserve, but they're getting more and more respect now, like
• 27:50
  they're nominated for Oscars and stuff like that, getting more
• 27:53
  recognition. There are no original movies
• 27:55
  anymore, OK? Everything is.
• 27:58
  It's an intellectual, It's a intellectual property.
• 28:01
  It's an IP of something. It's a remake.
• 28:04
  It's a it's a comic. Book.
• 28:05
  It's a comic. Book it's a remake of a frigging
• 28:07
  remake of a superhero movie that happened 10 years ago horror
• 28:10
  movies relatively like they're pretty original they're.
• 28:15
  Almost always in original, unique story this year alone.
• 28:19
  This past year we had so many good horror movies that were
• 28:23
  super original, like Weapons. Weapons is so.
• 28:26
  Original. It's so.
• 28:27
  Good. So original.
• 28:29
  It's scary. Like we were vibrating in the
• 28:32
  theatre. Watched it in the seats.
• 28:34
  I was terrified. Yeah.
• 28:36
  We'll have to do a pot on that cause that hits really hard as a
• 28:39
  parent. Barbarian.
• 28:41
  Same director. Barbarian.
• 28:43
  Oh, I was terrified. Yeah.
• 28:45
  Barbarians really scared of your.
• 28:46
  Own basement well, that's. What I'm saying like it's going
• 28:49
  to get. Air B Unique.
• 28:50
  They really do take unique ideas and it's, I think probably the
• 28:55
  most creative people. That's what I'm saying.
• 28:57
  It's. The only original genre
• 28:59
  remaining. Everything else is adaptation or
• 29:02
  like a remake. Well, that's.
• 29:04
  Not true. We do have people like Quentin
• 29:06
  Tarantino is one who try new things and are very creative.
• 29:09
  No, but. Quentin Tarantino releases one
• 29:11
  movie every like 10 years almost.
• 29:13
  Yeah. You know, Christopher Nolan does
• 29:15
  a movie every four or five years, his or mostly all
• 29:18
  original. But, you know, everything else
• 29:21
  is just a rehash or remake. Like Devils Wear Prada 2 just
• 29:25
  came out after 25 years. Like, that's not.
• 29:28
  First of all, it's. Devil wears Prada, not Devils
• 29:30
  wear Prada. And.
• 29:33
  That was highly anticipated because that will do our.
• 29:35
  Product, if you think about it, that was.
• 29:37
  Highly anticipated for 20. Two years it's come on strong
• 29:40
  is. Not really a thing anymore
• 29:41
  though. Nobody wears Prada anymore, I
• 29:43
  mean. People wear it.
• 29:44
  It's really expensive, but anyway, I'm just this movie is a
• 29:48
  classic. It brought back the haunted
• 29:50
  house movie. It brought back true horror, and
• 29:53
  it led to so many other good horror Movies Now, like
• 29:58
  everything like James Wan, he did Conjuring after this.
• 30:02
  There's so many Insidious Movies Now.
• 30:04
  There's so many other horror movies.
• 30:06
  Lights out, very similar style. Not James Wan, but fucking
• 30:10
  terrifying nonetheless. Yeah, Lights.
• 30:12
  Out was scary but insidious. Still, Insidious and Conjuring
• 30:16
  still for me are the like top, top tier, scariest horror movies
• 30:22
  I have ever seen. And Mike?
• 30:24
  Flanagan, Haunting of Hill House, he brought that horror
• 30:27
  into a show. Mike Flanagan also did Oculus.
• 30:31
  He did a bunch of stuff like this movie is a classic.
• 30:34
  It's iconic. It's the anchor that flipped the
• 30:37
  switch and said, OK, we're going back to real scary shit now.
• 30:40
  Enough with this, enough with this fucking torture porn.
• 30:43
  Hostile 123 Just watching somebody get his leg cut off and
• 30:48
  then you know. Yeah, it was hard for me to come
• 30:51
  up with anything for Classic or cancelled because it's very
• 30:53
  unproblematic as well. Like there's not, there's not a
• 30:56
  lot in this movie that you can that you can, you know, sneeze
• 30:59
  at. It's it's a classic.
• 31:00
  It's very well. Yeah, it's.
• 31:01
  Alzheimer and there's like how many how many are there now?
• 31:04
  There's insidious 1234, the the scale, the last key and then.
• 31:10
  Five the red, 5 the. Red Door and then 6 is coming
• 31:12
  out this this summer, this September into the further off.
• 31:19
  Finally. It took 6 movies for them to go
• 31:22
  into the further because that's a big point of this podcast that
• 31:25
  I I love about this this movie. It's a whole different world
• 31:29
  that they kind of like, they just touch on.
• 31:32
  And of course. Something so unique.
• 31:33
  This the first movie I ever heard about astral projecting
• 31:36
  with. This is the first movie I've
• 31:37
  ever seen. First movie.
• 31:38
  That lets you see what is going on.
• 31:41
  Letting it be a mystery and it it was, it was a a brilliant
• 31:44
  choice. Yeah, I agree.
• 31:46
  OK. So let's move on to party like
• 31:48
  it's 2026, OK? Go ahead.
• 31:50
  So. I think if if this movie came
• 31:53
  out this year, we would see less of the demon, it would just be
• 31:57
  little glimpses of him because that always makes it more scary.
• 32:01
  And horror movies, they show him a little bit too much.
• 32:04
  It's still very scary, yeah. But that demon by the end of the
• 32:07
  movie does lose a little bit of his his prestige because you you
• 32:12
  see him so much less is. More sometimes, yeah, he's a lot
• 32:14
  of times He he's. Not as scary by the end.
• 32:17
  And I think we would see more diversity in the cast.
• 32:20
  This is a very white movie and I was very common in the in the 20
• 32:23
  tens, in the early 20 tens. I think there would probably be
• 32:27
  at least a black character or an Asian character of some kind, at
• 32:31
  least one if it came out this year.
• 32:34
  And the movie is not that old. So the changes would be minor,
• 32:39
  like it's only 16 years old. So like, technology is not
• 32:42
  really gonna be that different. The family atmosphere and
• 32:46
  orientation is not gonna be that different.
• 32:47
  Yeah, you could make this movie today and it would be fairly
• 32:50
  similar. I think it would be.
• 32:51
  There would be a few differences.
• 32:52
  I think Tucker and Specs would be like influencers.
• 32:56
  They would have like a live stream channel of their ghost
• 32:58
  hunting Oh. Yeah, probably and.
• 33:01
  They they would have followers and stuff like that.
• 33:03
  Also if this was made in 2026 I agree with you.
• 33:06
  There's a lot of things that would stay the same, but this
• 33:09
  movie would be way more depressing if it was made in
• 33:13
  2026, which I don't like because one thing I didn't mention is
• 33:18
  when movies got more scary. There's this trend now of
• 33:22
  psychological trauma, horror, and it works like Babadook, I
• 33:28
  think was like the first major one.
• 33:30
  I can't even watch Babadook again because it's so
• 33:32
  depressing. So Babadook.
• 33:34
  Hereditary. What's that, Midsummer?
• 33:38
  These are movies that are really scary and creepy, but they're
• 33:42
  fucking depressing. Yeah, they're so sad.
• 33:46
  Like they scare the shit out of you.
• 33:48
  Hereditary is terrifying. I don't.
• 33:50
  Wanna watch it again because I don't want to see somebody
• 33:52
  scream crying on their floor because their child died.
• 33:55
  It's really depressing, and that's what a lot of movies have
• 33:58
  delved into. They get way too wrapped up into
• 34:01
  this psychological thing to, I guess, to get into the grief of
• 34:05
  the character and try to give us like more stakes with the
• 34:09
  characters. But what I appreciate about
• 34:11
  Insidious is that it rides a really fine line between old
• 34:15
  school classic horror where you don't really know the characters
• 34:18
  or care about them, and making us feel really bad for the
• 34:22
  family you don't. Want you don't want to kill
• 34:24
  yourself because Dalton's in a company.
• 34:26
  It's sad, but it's not like I'm I wanna die because it's like.
• 34:29
  In in paranormal, I didn't give a shit about these people.
• 34:32
  Like they're just two idiots that live in this house.
• 34:35
  Get the fuck out of the house. What paranormal activity?
• 34:38
  Like it's a horror movie, right? And I'm just comparing like we
• 34:41
  didn't really care about the character that one gets.
• 34:43
  Depressing by then too. No, I know.
• 34:45
  But the whole movie you don't really care, you just wanna see
• 34:48
  what's going on. You're waiting for them to go to
• 34:50
  sleep, right? So you can get scared, OK, in
• 34:52
  this movie, within the 1st 5 minutes, you, you like, you care
• 34:58
  about the, the mom, the dad, the kids, the little baby, like you
• 35:03
  care about these people. You know, she's sitting with her
• 35:05
  son going through a photo album. Everybody can relate to that.
• 35:08
  Even if you don't have kids, you've everybody's looked at a
• 35:11
  photo album with their family. Everybody's moved.
• 35:13
  Moving is very stressful. Like I was watching them and
• 35:16
  then they moved a second time and I was like, fuck that.
• 35:19
  I was like, like really? Literally.
• 35:21
  Rather die so. I think James wants a master
• 35:24
  class because in this movie and in Conjuring, you really care
• 35:28
  about the characters. Yeah, and it doesn't get so
• 35:31
  depressed and it's. Not fucking you don't need Xanax
• 35:34
  or fucking Zoloft after cause it's so depressing Yeah that's.
• 35:38
  That's a good point. And, and you're right about
• 35:40
  that. Um, so if I was going to recast
• 35:43
  this movie, yeah, I have a couple of cool ideas, I think.
• 35:48
  OK. So for Josh the dad, I want Adam
• 35:53
  Driver. OK.
• 35:54
  I think he has like Patrick. Wilson, Yeah.
• 35:57
  I think he has a similar distant father vibe that Patrick Wilson
• 36:03
  brings to the to the role, but he's also unlikable because you
• 36:09
  can't be a beloved actor in this role because the character is
• 36:12
  very unlikable either. Adam Driver is unlikable highly.
• 36:16
  Yeah, I think he's off putting. Yeah, I mean, I thought about it
• 36:21
  and I was like, it's really hard to cast a horror movie like this
• 36:26
  because Patrick Wilson gives dad vibes.
• 36:29
  Like they look like a real couple in bed.
• 36:31
  There's a lot. Of people they know, but.
• 36:33
  They they chemistry they have between him and Rose Byrne.
• 36:36
  Like they were in the bed. He was, he was joking about like
• 36:39
  writing all your songs. Write a song about me.
• 36:42
  And she's like, aren't they all about they're all?
• 36:45
  About you, yeah. You know, like, it's just very,
• 36:48
  very nice and very realistic. I don't know who could be cast,
• 36:52
  have that chemistry, but also make you feel like you're not
• 36:57
  watching 2 superstars in a horror movie.
• 37:01
  You know what I mean? It's a very, very You got to
• 37:03
  pick the thing with horror movies, you got to pick actors
• 37:05
  that are not super famous because they're fame will take
• 37:09
  you out of it, I don't think. I Adam Drivers too famous for
• 37:12
  this role. I mean, he was in Star Wars.
• 37:14
  He's pretty famous, I don't think.
• 37:15
  He's too famous for the role and I think, I think it fell off.
• 37:18
  Now a little bit, I think he's quieter and he and.
• 37:21
  He he did. He played a dad in marriage.
• 37:23
  He can play a dad. Yeah, and he can.
• 37:26
  Play an unlikable dad cause he was not like I'm thinking of his
• 37:29
  character from that movie. OK.
• 37:30
  Putting him in this movie it it's pretty similar.
• 37:33
  It's just. It's so hard for me, like maybe
• 37:36
  because I've seen this movie so many times and Patrick Wilson
• 37:38
  just like tattooed in my brain. Patrick.
• 37:41
  Wilson's perfect. But I mean, if if we're
• 37:43
  recasting, I'm I'm going to put Adam Driver as as the dad and
• 37:47
  I'm going to put Amelia Clark. Really, Denarius?
• 37:50
  Targaryen as the mom, the Queen of.
• 37:53
  Dragons or whatever her name is. Yeah, cause.
• 37:55
  She's the right age for it now, and she's beautiful and British.
• 37:59
  I mean, Rose Byrne is Australian, yeah, but I just.
• 38:02
  I like putting somebody else that's also foreign, but playing
• 38:05
  an American. Yeah.
• 38:07
  For Elise I I want Marisa Tomei. Yeah, she has.
• 38:12
  Old enough. She's. 61, yeah.
• 38:14
  But Lynn Shea is like, I think she's probably 70, I think.
• 38:18
  She's in her 60s as well. There's a dummy is just a very
• 38:21
  beautiful woman, but she has like the warm presence needed
• 38:25
  for the character while also having good range.
• 38:27
  Like we've seen Marisa Tomei in dramas and comedies.
• 38:31
  We've seen her Spiderman. Yeah.
• 38:32
  We've seen her in Spiderman, we've seen her in My Cousin
• 38:34
  Vinny. Like she has.
• 38:36
  She has range. She's really good actor, but
• 38:39
  she's. Getting older now so she could
• 38:40
  play roles like this now, yeah. I, I don't know, it's really
• 38:44
  hard for me. Lynn Shay to me is perfect.
• 38:46
  You know, it's really we're recasting here.
• 38:50
  It's tough to recast this one for me.
• 38:52
  And then I just have two more. I I recast Specs and Tucker as
• 38:55
  well. Yeah.
• 38:57
  And this is kind of crazy, but I want Dan Levy.
• 39:00
  OK as Specs, Eugene Levy said yeah, because he would give the
• 39:04
  character like, a quirky quality and his comedic timing is off
• 39:08
  the charts. And then Tucker.
• 39:10
  I want Bo Burnham. Oh.
• 39:12
  Really. Because he's.
• 39:13
  He's big and tall. He's so underrated, but he's
• 39:16
  like a wonderful talent and I think he needs to be more self.
• 39:19
  So I just, I would put him in just for that reason, I mean.
• 39:21
  Yeah, but here's the thing. All these actors take you out of
• 39:24
  the movie because they're all superstars.
• 39:26
  Bill Burners. On a superstar, but he.
• 39:28
  Yeah, he and Dan Levy. 'S not a superstar.
• 39:30
  Yeah, they're. Very notable, like popular
• 39:33
  people I want. Their quirky style in the movie,
• 39:36
  I know. But you might take people out of
• 39:38
  the horror movie and be like, oh, look who's in this?
• 39:40
  This is my. Recasting at you, I know it.
• 39:42
  Is but your budget is blown now you don't have 1.5 million.
• 39:45
  Do you need like 20 million for all these?
• 39:48
  Big deal, Levy would do. It would do specs for for a
• 39:50
  small fee. Do it for a fucking, uh, a
• 39:53
  coffee cup of coffee, Yeah, For. For a latte and a sandwich,
• 39:56
  yeah. OK, can you watch this with your
• 39:59
  parents? Uh, yeah.
• 40:02
  I wrote yeah, of course. But I mean, if they're fucking
• 40:06
  watch it, it's. It's fun watching a horror movie
• 40:09
  with family I've seen. This with my mom and it's
• 40:11
  terrifying and she's down. But your parents tend to dodge
• 40:15
  horror movies a lot. They're known for it.
• 40:18
  Well, they always. Say we don't watch any we want.
• 40:20
  We don't. Want to define evil?
• 40:21
  Nothing demonic, no demons, no demons.
• 40:25
  It's like, OK, yeah, so. They actually haven't seen this,
• 40:28
  no. But they did watch The Conjuring
• 40:32
  alright. Save that for The Conjuring
• 40:33
  episode, OK? Fair enough, Save it for the.
• 40:35
  Conjuring such a good. Story.
• 40:37
  Yeah, there's. No sexuality in this movie.
• 40:39
  And like I said, it's really fun to watch a horror movie as a
• 40:41
  family. So as long as there's nobody
• 40:43
  under the age of maybe 16, yeah. Because it is.
• 40:46
  It is very scary, like it's too scary for little SO.
• 40:49
  Like I have nieces, one of them's 14, the other one is 11
• 40:54
  and. I think they're both too young.
• 40:55
  They. Are because if they watch this,
• 40:57
  they're never sleeping again by themselves ever once.
• 40:59
  They're older. We're gonna have them over.
• 41:01
  We're gonna show this to them. Yeah, I know.
• 41:03
  That's why I love showing people certain movies, especially
• 41:07
  horror movies, because you want to see their reaction to the the
• 41:10
  scares that you used to get or you may still get.
• 41:13
  Yeah, there's. A few movies we have to show our
• 41:15
  our nieces once they're once they're of age and our kids, of
• 41:17
  course, but we're a long way away from our kids being able to
• 41:20
  watch these see the. Beauty about showing your nieces
• 41:22
  and nephews or that you don't have to deal with the the the
• 41:26
  doubtful. I don't know, our sons pretty
• 41:28
  tough man. I don't think he would be
• 41:30
  afraid. No, he would be.
• 41:32
  I showed him Jurassic Park, like one clip of the T Rex showing up
• 41:35
  and he fucking like ran away. He didn't.
• 41:37
  Yeah, he's a tough. Boy, we stayed at my parents and
• 41:40
  we put him in the dark, huge scary basement by himself and he
• 41:44
  gave no fucks. No, he went down there and he
• 41:47
  went to sleep. I went down to stop.
• 41:49
  I went down there one night. We had to go down.
• 41:51
  The other two nights he went to sleep like nothing.
• 41:53
  No, he was. Exhausted.
• 41:54
  That's why he went to sleep. I'm just.
• 41:55
  Saying he's, he's a tough boy, OK.
• 41:58
  Who's your favorite and least favorite characters?
• 42:00
  OK. So I'm just gonna preface this
• 42:03
  OK, I could not do supporting characters because there's like
• 42:06
  5 fucking people in this movie. OK.
• 42:08
  So who was I going to pick a supporting character?
• 42:10
  The fucking doctor at the hospital.
• 42:12
  Like there's or Tux or Specker or anybody.
• 42:15
  Outside of the immediate family is considered supporting well
• 42:18
  so. For favorite, I picked Elise.
• 42:20
  Yeah, I. Put.
• 42:21
  Yeah, obviously. Like I said earlier, she's a
• 42:24
  warm and light presence in the film and it helps break the
• 42:27
  tension. She's she's.
• 42:28
  Wicked man. She's she's fully in charge.
• 42:30
  She walks into the house, she starts looking around.
• 42:33
  She's like, she tells Specs that this is not a wiring problem in
• 42:36
  this house. Like she knows what's up.
• 42:38
  I I. Love her.
• 42:39
  And I think that the way that her gift is portrayed is very
• 42:43
  beautiful. Yeah, because it it leaves a lot
• 42:47
  of mystery, but it shows like she has like an ethereal light
• 42:52
  around her almost, Yeah. She she's almost like she has
• 42:56
  this gift and she's got a glow and she has this connection to
• 42:59
  the light present worlds and it's really, really nice.
• 43:02
  Yeah. She's.
• 43:02
  Like a sweet person feel. Safe.
• 43:04
  Yeah, she's. A sweet person while also having
• 43:06
  this supernatural ability. So she's just a very, very
• 43:08
  lovable Chester. Fucking choked out the end of
• 43:10
  the movie yo. Spoiler alert, well.
• 43:14
  If you're this far into the pod like you're going to spoil, your
• 43:17
  ending is fucked. I know I.
• 43:18
  Know we'll get to that. Who's your least favorite?
• 43:21
  So I I picked a main character. I had to.
• 43:24
  OK, go Josh, the dad. Oh, why?
• 43:28
  I he sucks. He's an emotionally unavailable
• 43:31
  and often physically unavailable husband and father.
• 43:34
  Yeah, he does avoid stress, His wife says at one point she's
• 43:38
  like, whether it's this or a parking ticket, you you avoid
• 43:40
  stress. He's an avoider, OK?
• 43:42
  He and he's he's vain. I'm going to count multiple
• 43:46
  times. In the in the movie you see
• 43:47
  putting face cream on that. That was giving me the act like
• 43:50
  putting face cream around his eyes.
• 43:51
  Why does that give you He's pulling out Gray hairs in the
• 43:54
  mirror putting. Cream on your face before bed is
• 43:57
  he's very. Vain.
• 43:58
  He's also stupid. He eats a piece of He eats a
• 44:03
  piece of wax fruit, and then he denies that there is a ghost or
• 44:08
  demon after seeing the fucking ransacked room.
• 44:11
  You're stupid and he's a bad husband.
• 44:15
  He stays late at school, avoiding coming home to help his
• 44:18
  wife care for their three children, one of whom let me
• 44:21
  finish, one of whom is in a coma.
• 44:23
  He is a selfish and very unlikable character in this
• 44:26
  movie, and it's not surprising that, spoiler alert, they're
• 44:29
  divorced in the Red Door. Rightfully so.
• 44:33
  I would divorce his selfishness. No, I'm just.
• 44:36
  Saying it's clear that this marriage is doomed because he
• 44:38
  sucks that much. So listen.
• 44:40
  I have a counter because Lynn Shea is our favorite Elise, but
• 44:44
  my least favorite is Rose Burns character and I'll tell you why.
• 44:48
  How could? You not like Renee so.
• 44:50
  There's some stuff that they don't explain in this movie.
• 44:52
  OK, So for example, when they first moved in the beginning of
• 44:55
  the movie, they move into that old timey looking house, right?
• 44:58
  Yeah. And she says in bed, like, I
• 45:01
  really want to make this place work, you know, I want to move
• 45:05
  on from what happened, Bubba. We don't really know why they've
• 45:08
  moved again. That creepy old house that they
• 45:11
  move in, where this stuff starts happening.
• 45:14
  They don't explain what happened.
• 45:15
  What's going on with her is did something happen with her
• 45:18
  career? Like, what is going on?
• 45:20
  I don't think. It's her.
• 45:21
  I think it's, I think their marriage is struggling a little
• 45:24
  bit and this is supposed to be a fresh start, OK.
• 45:26
  So maybe that's your thought, But he also says, I want you to
• 45:30
  focus on your music. So she's not pulling in any
• 45:33
  money. So this guy is a school teacher.
• 45:35
  School teachers make fuck all in the US.
• 45:38
  OK. So he's probably bringing in
• 45:40
  maximum in. Canada 40. 50K a year.
• 45:43
  OK, he's got three kids. His wife is a musician that I
• 45:48
  guess is struggling. OK, so the I'm I'm just telling
• 45:51
  you all the stressors. He moves in.
• 45:54
  He he he comes home from school, from work.
• 45:57
  He gives his kids something. He says share it with your
• 45:59
  brother. He's playing with the baby girl.
• 46:01
  He's being a really attentive, sweet dad.
• 46:04
  And then stuff starts to happen. His wife is like, I'm seeing
• 46:08
  shit, but we don't know what's going on.
• 46:11
  Maybe she had a mental breakdown like at the last house.
• 46:14
  So now he's like, is my wife fucking losing her mind?
• 46:17
  Like what is going on? So that's.
• 46:19
  A That's an excuse to avoid. No, I'm.
• 46:22
  Getting to that. So he's got a lot of pressure on
• 46:24
  him. He's trying to keep his house
• 46:26
  hold together, his wife is freaking out while he's at work.
• 46:30
  And then all this other stuff happens where his sons in a
• 46:32
  Coleman now and he's like, what the fuck is going on?
• 46:36
  That's that will take a toll on anybody, anybody.
• 46:39
  Of course it would. Take a toll.
• 46:41
  It would be horrible, but avoiding all that does is put
• 46:43
  all the stress on Renee and expect her to keep his household
• 46:47
  running his. Kids in a coma.
• 46:49
  They don't even know what to call it.
• 46:51
  His wife is fucking seeing shit. He's on the couch.
• 46:54
  This is why I don't like Rose Byrne.
• 46:56
  OK? You start seeing a fucking face
• 46:59
  like a guy standing behind your baby's crib.
• 47:02
  And why is that baby still alone?
• 47:06
  You know the baby's in her room after.
• 47:08
  After. After that, No, it's not right
• 47:11
  away. It's after.
• 47:12
  Why is your husband on the couch?
• 47:13
  Why isn't everybody in the family sleeping in one fucking
• 47:16
  room? After you see a person in your
• 47:18
  home and you hear a person in your fucking monitor,
• 47:22
  everybody's got to be in the same bedroom sleeping in the
• 47:25
  same bed. Like nobody would do that.
• 47:28
  Nobody would put their husband on the couch.
• 47:30
  If you're terrified you see a fucking bloody red hand on your
• 47:33
  kids bed and your husband's on the couch.
• 47:37
  Can I help you? They're.
• 47:38
  Fighting cause he's being a shit.
• 47:39
  How's it better you? No he's not being a shit father
• 47:42
  he's just going through it just like her and people deal with
• 47:46
  it. Also once we learn his back
• 47:48
  story about all the shit that happened with the fucking lady
• 47:51
  in the black dress, it kind of explains why he's like
• 47:55
  disconnected OK because regardless trauma because what
• 48:00
  happened when he's in avoider? And he's unavailable.
• 48:02
  I don't like it. He's.
• 48:04
  My least. Favorite she's.
• 48:05
  Fucking complaining about everything.
• 48:07
  Alright, so. We but we hate the husband and
• 48:08
  wife. You're going.
• 48:09
  After the guy for trying to look young.
• 48:11
  Like what the hell no. The way he does it, he does it
• 48:14
  like a lady. He like taps it into his eye,
• 48:16
  gives her egg. Gives you the egg.
• 48:18
  OK, yeah, slap it on your. Face like a man does not put
• 48:21
  lotion on like that. OK, Amanda.
• 48:25
  Doesn't usually put on lotion rose burns.
• 48:27
  Character she's she's she's trashing this like what are you
• 48:29
  doing I. Disagree, I like her.
• 48:31
  She's trashing this. I don't know.
• 48:34
  And and they move and they move and they're still in separate
• 48:38
  rooms. Bitch, you saw a little boy in
• 48:41
  the house put everybody in the same fucking room.
• 48:44
  She. Sends it to his mom's house.
• 48:45
  She sends the kids to his mom's house after that.
• 48:48
  Listen, we're not talking about the second movie, but the second
• 48:50
  movie The house is even scarier. The moms house.
• 48:54
  So yeah, the. Mom's fucking terrifying.
• 48:56
  Terrifying. It's old.
• 48:57
  And it's hot to the shit. All right?
• 49:01
  Fuck, I gotta leave Patrick. Wilson along.
• 49:03
  Yeah, OK. So.
• 49:04
  Cultural Impact Horror Daddy Cultural Impacts OK in Cities is
• 49:10
  recognized as one of the most important horror films of the
• 49:13
  220 tens, with many critics citing it as the starting point
• 49:19
  for for the modern horror era era.
• 49:21
  That includes It Follows, The Babadook, and Get Out, which are
• 49:26
  all considered top tier horror. It's praised and credited with
• 49:31
  bringing back old school supernatural horror rather than
• 49:33
  relying on excessive gore as was typical in the early aughts.
• 49:38
  We see this in Hostel, Saw and slasher remakes for Halloween
• 49:42
  and Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The blood gets a little bit out
• 49:45
  of control for a few years there, and this movie delved
• 49:49
  into building tension and dread and using psychological terror
• 49:52
  to inflict fear accented with jump scares.
• 49:55
  Less is. More let your imagination fill
• 49:58
  in the the the void, you know to scare the crap out of you Yeah
• 50:01
  and it. Makes it a lot scarier in that
• 50:03
  way and then you're not seeing like basically just gratuitous
• 50:06
  violence and blood you mentioned.
• 50:08
  They show the the red faced mean a lot more at the end of the
• 50:11
  movie as a beginning. They don't show you anything.
• 50:14
  You just You see Dalton looking out his window.
• 50:17
  You hear the? Cry, you hear the.
• 50:19
  Crackling of his nails and the only the first time you see him
• 50:23
  is when the moms explaining and you see the the silhouette of
• 50:26
  him pointing at Dalton with his long ass nail.
• 50:29
  Yeah, that's like really scary. And then the face behind Patrick
• 50:32
  Wilson, that is enough. I don't need to see anymore, you
• 50:36
  know, like less is more, man. You mentioned before that it
• 50:41
  reinvigorated the haunted house tropes.
• 50:45
  So while featuring a possessed home, Insidious famously
• 50:48
  established that it was not the house that was haunted, but the
• 50:51
  child, putting a unique spin on a well known motif.
• 50:56
  And it's credited with making horror fun again, like you said,
• 51:00
  like things could be very depressing in in horror movies
• 51:04
  at the time. So in this one.
• 51:07
  And. This So in this one, they're
• 51:08
  utilizing jump scares, they're shifting away from the very
• 51:11
  depressing atmosphere the other horror movies of the time
• 51:14
  slipped into, and they're making it a little bit more fun and
• 51:18
  exciting. And although I did kind of talk
• 51:21
  shit about Specs and Tucker, that comedic relief really helps
• 51:25
  with the tension to make it a little bit more fun like.
• 51:28
  Hereditary is just like watching someone go through the most
• 51:34
  terrible, terrible tragedy in their life.
• 51:37
  Yeah. While being haunted.
• 51:39
  It's too much, guy. Yeah, it's.
• 51:41
  It's. It's it's really good.
• 51:43
  I fucking that movie is so good but it's really hard to rewatch.
• 51:47
  I've never rewatched. I've watched it once.
• 51:50
  It's. It's scary every time you watch
• 51:51
  it, but you're like, Oh my God, I forgot this scene.
• 51:54
  You're just like watching somebody ball her eyes out for
• 51:56
  like 20 minutes and you're like, Oh, yeah, I.
• 51:58
  Can't. I can't get into that.
• 52:00
  You know, cultural impact. This movie is the birth of the
• 52:03
  Blumhouse model. I mentioned it earlier, tiny,
• 52:05
  tiny budget make 100 times your money, you know, 100 times your
• 52:10
  budget. Like the haunted house movie
• 52:13
  made a huge comeback because of this, because audience started
• 52:15
  going you know what I want genuine scares.
• 52:18
  I want something to be afraid of.
• 52:20
  I want to feel eerie when I'm walking to my car after the
• 52:23
  movie or walking from my car to my home like It follows it.
• 52:28
  When I when I watched that, I remember walking to my leaving
• 52:31
  my car to walk to the house and I was looking over my shoulder.
• 52:35
  Yeah, you know, that's a fucking horror movie to me where I
• 52:39
  watched Insidious in the basement by myself.
• 52:42
  I went upstairs and I looked at the back window and I pictured
• 52:46
  the fucking long haired. Feel like walking?
• 52:49
  Back and forth or staring at me through the fucking window.
• 52:52
  You know, this is what this movie did.
• 52:55
  And it's, it's still going. It's it's going strong.
• 52:59
  I agree, talk about the soundtrack.
• 53:02
  Oh my God, the soundtrack. Very unique, amazing.
• 53:06
  It's very. Scary.
• 53:07
  Amazing. Joseph Bishara and we.
• 53:10
  Have these jarring, Yeah, we have these jarring loud piano
• 53:14
  and violin. When something scary happens, it
• 53:17
  makes your heart race even more and makes the jump scare even
• 53:20
  scarier. Like the movies telling you
• 53:22
  something's terribly wrong and it it just brings your heart
• 53:26
  rate up. Yeah.
• 53:27
  You just sitting there and you just hear like random strings on
• 53:32
  a violin just going off and then something big happens and you
• 53:36
  hear it sounds like somebody dropped an anvil on an open
• 53:40
  piano or on a on a on a fucking violin.
• 53:43
  Just let everything go and it's so scary.
• 53:47
  And I've never seen anyone do that in any other movie I've
• 53:51
  seen. It in other movies but not this
• 53:53
  good. That's another piece of this
• 53:55
  movie, like the soundtrack perfectly.
• 53:58
  Done. And it's Joseph.
• 53:59
  Bashara. I'm giving him a shout out
• 54:00
  because he also plays their lipstick Demon I.
• 54:06
  I did see that on some trivia online.
• 54:08
  That fucking crazy. Man, like this guy is the goat.
• 54:11
  I'm sorry. He's yeah, I'm not calling the
• 54:14
  goat because he has hooves for feet, you know, But he's
• 54:16
  actually the goal. He's he did the soundtrack.
• 54:19
  I played the soundtrack just earlier today and I had to turn
• 54:23
  it off. I listened to about a minute and
• 54:25
  a half. I'm like, Nope, no, I'm good,
• 54:26
  thank you. You could play the soundtrack
• 54:28
  anywhere. You just sit in your car, you
• 54:31
  could be in the house. Just play the soundtrack and you
• 54:34
  will it causes. Dread you will get.
• 54:36
  Freaked out right away. Yeah, like right away.
• 54:39
  It without question. Amazing soundtrack.
• 54:42
  I agree. Location, location, location.
• 54:45
  Yes. So for me, it's, we talked about
• 54:48
  this when we were watching it. It's the bungalow.
• 54:50
  You like that one? There's a second.
• 54:52
  House in the movie. I love how many windows it has,
• 54:55
  giving it a light and airy look. It's so cute from the outside.
• 54:59
  That's funny and I associate it with a lot of joy because that's
• 55:02
  where Dalton comes out of his coma.
• 55:04
  So the first house is just pure depression.
• 55:06
  So here's. The thing I put the 1st house,
• 55:09
  that's my favorite location because it's so freaky.
• 55:13
  It is the freakiest looking house ever from the outside.
• 55:16
  And then you go in, it's all that dark wood.
• 55:19
  The big door. It's one big door, a lot of
• 55:21
  front doors, just as extra wide front door and the staircase
• 55:25
  with the grandfather clock, OHS and then.
• 55:28
  The attic, The upstairs like attic has.
• 55:30
  A furnace on the in the attic. Like what house has a furnace in
• 55:33
  the attic even before you get? Into the attic, just the
• 55:35
  upstairs, there's all those doors, there's all these little
• 55:38
  hallways around, like the staircase.
• 55:40
  It's very spooky the way I. Love that house.
• 55:43
  Whoever scouted and found that house, Great fucking job
• 55:46
  honestly. And the best part look like the
• 55:49
  genius of this movie is you start in the scarier home and
• 55:53
  then they move because they're like, we need to move.
• 55:55
  Because, you know, also they don't buy the house, they lease
• 55:58
  it. They're renting because
• 56:00
  obviously they're not rich, you know, so their money's all tied
• 56:03
  up probably in the other house. But the husband's like, no, no,
• 56:06
  we'll move. You want to move.
• 56:07
  Whatever makes you feel safe because he's such a bad person.
• 56:11
  But they move into the bungalow. OK, The bungalow is nice and
• 56:17
  warm. It's got warmer colours, a lot
• 56:19
  of windows. It feels much safer, right
• 56:21
  Ceiling, yes. And then yeah, it has a better.
• 56:23
  Vibe and. Which I think the genius of this
• 56:26
  movie is they go from a scary house to a nice looking house
• 56:29
  and the scares get even worse. Yeah.
• 56:31
  And then in the second movie, it's just so happens that
• 56:36
  Patrick Wilson's mom because they move in with her.
• 56:40
  She lives in a terrible. She lives in.
• 56:42
  A house that's scarier than the first Insidious house.
• 56:45
  Yeah. When you look at the Insidious
• 56:46
  poster, it's a picture of Dalton, right?
• 56:48
  And in the background, it's the first house because it's so
• 56:52
  fucking creepy. I don't know.
• 56:54
  Why you would pick that as your location?
• 56:55
  I like no nice I don't. Know it's safe house I don't
• 56:58
  like I wouldn't live there I'm just saying it's such a really
• 57:01
  good location for the movie like it's such a well picked home you
• 57:05
  know it's so old timey they don't make their homes like that
• 57:08
  anymore I. Actually lived in a really old
• 57:11
  house my second year at university.
• 57:13
  It was like over 100 years old. And when we went and looked at
• 57:18
  it like the carpet was like very busy and it had like dark wood.
• 57:22
  Similarly, in a very small kitchen, because those old homes
• 57:25
  always had small kitchens, and living there was freaky.
• 57:30
  The the basement there was very scary.
• 57:32
  There was a crawl space with the little door that sometimes would
• 57:35
  just, like, open on its own. Fuck that.
• 57:37
  It was. Yeah.
• 57:38
  And it was like an old head, Like, that house is probably
• 57:39
  haunted. Yeah.
• 57:41
  Some, you know, some homes, they're just creepy, you know,
• 57:44
  like the house I lived in and when I went to school.
• 57:47
  When I met you, that house wasn't creepy.
• 57:49
  But at night time, if you're by yourself, it was very scary
• 57:52
  because you could walk in from the front or the back and had a
• 57:57
  sunken living room. With all those windows so.
• 58:00
  Sometimes you'd be in the kitchen and you could see like
• 58:02
  there's this like half window, half wall thing to the sunken
• 58:05
  living room and the corner of your eye, you're just like you,
• 58:08
  you know, you just picture somebody standing there as
• 58:11
  fucking you. Scare the shit of yourself.
• 58:12
  Yeah, that. House was deceptively large too.
• 58:14
  Like, it would you would feel like a little unsafe being there
• 58:16
  by yourself and you were there by yourself for a whole
• 58:18
  semester, Yeah. Thug Life.
• 58:21
  So who gets a spin-off? I.
• 58:24
  I. Wanna say Elise, Specs and
• 58:26
  Tucker? Yeah.
• 58:27
  But they do already, yeah. Basically movies 3-4, Yeah 3 and
• 58:31
  4 go into their back story, I wrote.
• 58:33
  Tucker and Specs, their solo movie.
• 58:36
  Just them ghost hunting. But without a lease, it tells us
• 58:40
  in the later movies that they have no talent without her then.
• 58:43
  Maybe something that happens, maybe they meet somebody else,
• 58:45
  new medium or something. I thought that happened at the
• 58:48
  end of the last Insidious. Maybe I'm.
• 58:51
  I think in the last he they, they mean well.
• 58:55
  What happened was they went to meet her brother, Elise's
• 58:58
  brother. Oh yeah.
• 58:59
  And he had kids. And one of the kids was a
• 59:01
  medium. OK.
• 59:03
  Yeah, she got the gift too, so. There's 5 movies that are out.
• 59:07
  Six number six is on the way and one and two or three is really
• 59:11
  good. 3 is fucking scary. 1 and 2.
• 59:13
  Are the scariest, but three is scary.
• 59:16
  Really scary 4. Yeah, it's, you know, it starts
• 59:20
  to like, you know, they're really pulling at strings now.
• 59:23
  Yeah, they. Delve into Elise's back story.
• 59:26
  Yeah, in that one. But it's not, it's not as good.
• 59:30
  K double feature. I put Insidious chapter 2 so.
• 59:34
  Did I best? Honestly, it this and then
• 59:38
  Conjuring one and two. It's one of the best 1-2 punches
• 59:41
  for horror movie, but this one is directly after the first,
• 59:46
  which I think it's the best one to a horror movie sequels ever
• 59:51
  made. Yeah.
• 59:52
  So I think if you watch Insidious one and two as one, it
• 59:56
  is better than watching Conjuring One and Two.
• 59:59
  But Conjuring 1 is better than Insidious One, yeah.
• 1:00:02
  And and by conjuring 2, James Wan is fully like he.
• 1:00:06
  That's the other thing. He goes from this to conjuring
• 1:00:09
  and conjuring. He's fully perfected His his his
• 1:00:12
  stick. I still think it's better
• 1:00:16
  conjuring. Is him making a perfect horror
• 1:00:19
  movie Yeah, this one is his like rough draft and it's still OHK
• 1:00:23
  it's. Still and then.
• 1:00:24
  Insidious Chapter 2 is again, perfect horror in my opinion.
• 1:00:29
  It's terrifying. Well.
• 1:00:31
  Also they delve into the Bride and Insidious chapter.
• 1:00:33
  Two and the bride. Is one of the scariest demons or
• 1:00:38
  ghosts the. Mom of the bride.
• 1:00:41
  Oh my God, don't. You dare fuck you.
• 1:00:44
  Why would you say that? Ohe ohe no.
• 1:00:48
  The scene at the end where they're in the kids room because
• 1:00:51
  the mom didn't want a boy so she makes her son dressed like a
• 1:00:54
  girl. OHP.
• 1:00:56
  And then the kids like they're in the further right.
• 1:01:00
  They're looking at the mom and she's looking away, and then she
• 1:01:03
  slowly turns around and looks right at the camera.
• 1:01:09
  Get the fuck out, bro. Yeah, no thanks, yo.
• 1:01:13
  This movie so scary and the second one says.
• 1:01:15
  This thing was so scary. Remember, they moved, they go
• 1:01:18
  into the house and the second one and Rose Burns walking in
• 1:01:20
  the house by herself, and then she walks through the hall.
• 1:01:23
  And then they do that same thing where you, you, you're looking,
• 1:01:26
  you're hunting as a viewer. And then you see a woman in a
• 1:01:29
  white dress sitting on the couch and she sees it too.
• 1:01:32
  And then she goes around and it's not there.
• 1:01:35
  And then it's fucking appears out of nowhere and slaps the
• 1:01:38
  shit out of her. Don't you dare.
• 1:01:40
  That's why, yeah, yeah. I I can't even the second one.
• 1:01:46
  They're both amazing OHP they're.
• 1:01:48
  They're yeah, they're both. I also.
• 1:01:49
  Wrote just for, you know, Poltergeist.
• 1:01:51
  It's still a good movie, It still holds up.
• 1:01:53
  It's not as scary not. Nearly as scary, not nearly as
• 1:01:56
  good. It's still freaky.
• 1:01:57
  It's more comisky now. Even the mediums like this
• 1:02:01
  little woman who kind of sounds funny, she talks, Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Just let the people talk to us through the screen.
• 1:02:08
  Yeah, something about. The scariest part of that movie
• 1:02:11
  to me is when they come home and the I think it's the mom.
• 1:02:14
  She's like, watch this and she puts the chair and the, the the
• 1:02:18
  the spirit pulls the chair across the room.
• 1:02:20
  I'll be like, why are we here? Get your.
• 1:02:22
  Shit, that's good. That's like conjuring.
• 1:02:24
  No, it's. Poltergeist.
• 1:02:25
  They did it. Poltergeist.
• 1:02:26
  She puts an X on the floor in the kitchen, and then the
• 1:02:30
  poltergeist pulls the chair from one side of the kitchen to the
• 1:02:33
  other. And she keeps doing it.
• 1:02:34
  And she keeps doing it. And they're like, why are you
• 1:02:37
  here? Get your shit, get the hell out.
• 1:02:39
  Why are you still there? A bit out of there real quick
• 1:02:41
  after that shit, yeah. OK, movie alias now before.
• 1:02:45
  We go movie, alias, kiss, marry, kill.
• 1:02:49
  Oh boy, the red. Faced demon oht.
• 1:02:51
  You're a Dick. The Bridgman.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah. Kiss.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah. The the.
• 1:02:55
  Lips the The blood faced demon. Darth Maul, the bride demon.
• 1:03:00
  Ohhhhh and. The you're.
• 1:03:02
  Dick and the. Guy, the guys even that luck.
• 1:03:05
  You picked all three terrifying people.
• 1:03:09
  The long haired fiend? Yeah, the guy that comes into.
• 1:03:11
  The room and so kiss, marry, kill OHS.
• 1:03:19
  You know what? I don't even know bro.
• 1:03:24
  I don't. You should just.
• 1:03:25
  Marry the bride because she's already a bride.
• 1:03:27
  No, I'm killing them all. I'm killing them all.
• 1:03:30
  I'm killing them all. You're not.
• 1:03:32
  Gonna kiss like that big guy I'll.
• 1:03:34
  I'll he wants. He wants.
• 1:03:35
  To kiss Rose, Burn and you. Listen, I'll, I'll, I'll marry,
• 1:03:39
  I'll marry the long haired fiend, OK?
• 1:03:43
  Just because honestly, it seems like the least scary.
• 1:03:47
  That's the least worst choice, OK, We don't really have a back
• 1:03:50
  story on this guy. He just wears a leather coat and
• 1:03:53
  he just walks back and forth. So we'll go the long haired
• 1:03:56
  friend is married and then I'm going to kill the bride, the
• 1:04:02
  demon. I'll I'll I'll kiss cause the.
• 1:04:04
  Kids eat the lipstick. Lipstick.
• 1:04:06
  Darth Maul face. Yeah.
• 1:04:07
  I don't like which one. They're all trash, you know,
• 1:04:11
  they're all trash. You literally said to me, do you
• 1:04:14
  want the rat poison? Do you want the the skunk poison
• 1:04:18
  or do you want like the snake poison?
• 1:04:20
  Which one do you want? And I'm like, let me see.
• 1:04:24
  I think I'll take all three your Dick.
• 1:04:28
  You could even give me like anybody I.
• 1:04:31
  Was gonna put me. I was gonna give me Tucker.
• 1:04:33
  Aspect I was gonna. Put specs in there but it was
• 1:04:35
  better to not you picked. All three trash.
• 1:04:38
  You know what? You didn't even pick anybody in
• 1:04:41
  the further like one of those other people like that crazy
• 1:04:43
  smiling family. What you.
• 1:04:45
  Gonna put the whole smiling family.
• 1:04:46
  None of them have names, that's true.
• 1:04:48
  The one that kills everyone? The shotgun.
• 1:04:50
  OHP fucked up man. OK lazy Sunday vibes.
• 1:04:53
  You fucking no. It's way too scary, I wrote.
• 1:04:56
  No, but maybe Sunday evening, you know, stop.
• 1:04:59
  Trying to make everything a lazy Sunday movie.
• 1:05:01
  This is not no. But this is a.
• 1:05:03
  Saturday night, we wanna be scared the shit out of us.
• 1:05:06
  That's what this is. Stop making everything a lazy
• 1:05:10
  Sunday movie, don't you? Dare don't you dare make it
• 1:05:14
  always anyway movie alias this was tough cause this the title
• 1:05:19
  is amazing so. I I chose the further like just
• 1:05:23
  out of my. Mind further too, and then I.
• 1:05:24
  Looked online and that was almost the name of this.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah, and I'm glad it isn't. Insidious is fucking so good.
• 1:05:31
  The father would have. Been fine, no?
• 1:05:32
  Insidious is terrifying. It's so freaky.
• 1:05:36
  Like I it's the perfect title for this movie.
• 1:05:38
  I I couldn't even think of another title.
• 1:05:41
  I wrote harm. I wrote fire face or.
• 1:05:44
  Harmful fire face because. The cause?
• 1:05:47
  The somebody says he has fire on his face.
• 1:05:49
  I think Dalton might Dalton. He's the man with fire in his
• 1:05:52
  face. Yeah, cause that's.
• 1:05:54
  A lot scarier than lipstick face they could have.
• 1:05:56
  Called it Dalton, Yeah, but it's.
• 1:05:58
  Not really about Dalton. It's really about Dalton's comas
• 1:06:01
  effect on the family. Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  That's true. Poor kid gets a shaft K best
• 1:06:07
  performance. So I'm going to pick Elise.
• 1:06:12
  OK, like I've. Said she brings levity to the
• 1:06:15
  movie in a way that really works.
• 1:06:18
  She portrays someone with a super mat natural gift in a
• 1:06:21
  unique and believable way. And as if you or I feel relieved
• 1:06:25
  when she enters the movie because she is the first one
• 1:06:28
  that gives us a solution to Dalton's comma.
• 1:06:32
  So we immediately cling to her because she's she's finally
• 1:06:36
  bringing a solution. That's a good pick.
• 1:06:41
  It was tough for me because there was a couple of, you know,
• 1:06:43
  everybody does a really good job in this movie, but I had to go
• 1:06:47
  with the fucking Darth Maul face demon.
• 1:06:50
  That guy. Really.
• 1:06:51
  Yeah. Well, Joseph Bishara, the guy
• 1:06:54
  did the soundtrack and he plays the demon.
• 1:06:57
  Like you, you, you double fisting here, like this guy is
• 1:07:00
  killing it. Like yeah, you.
• 1:07:02
  Made one of the most. Iconic scary soundtracks for our
• 1:07:05
  film Ever. And you scared the living shit
• 1:07:09
  out of me when I was on my laptop because you're standing
• 1:07:11
  behind Patrick Wilson and you're like, But it's the.
• 1:07:14
  Makeup and effects that make him scary.
• 1:07:15
  It's not necessarily the performance because Like Renee
• 1:07:18
  also gives a great performance in this film.
• 1:07:21
  Rose Byrne was my second even though like she's my least
• 1:07:23
  favorite character. I think she's a terrible mom in
• 1:07:25
  this. I don't think she's a very good
• 1:07:27
  mom. Why is your baby alone?
• 1:07:30
  You heard snapping. Listen.
• 1:07:31
  You heard a voice on the monitor and then you went upstairs and
• 1:07:37
  you think you saw a shadow behind the door.
• 1:07:40
  The nursery? Like why?
• 1:07:42
  Also why is your fucking crib have so much shit in it?
• 1:07:44
  You trying to smother your baby? I know.
• 1:07:46
  That is not safe sleep at all. It has bumpers, it has a pillow
• 1:07:50
  and it has a blanket. It puts your husband baby is
• 1:07:52
  clearly under one year old your husband on.
• 1:07:53
  The couch when your house is fucking haunted.
• 1:08:14
  Excuse me, the alarms going off. She gives a great performance in
• 1:08:19
  this film. She does.
• 1:08:20
  She's the one who is terrorized. She looks.
• 1:08:22
  Really scared, Yeah. She's the one who's terrorized
• 1:08:25
  the most by the ghost and and her facial expressions convey
• 1:08:29
  fear and terror so well, and her performance is what makes the
• 1:08:32
  movie so spooky. I.
• 1:08:34
  Give it to Darth Maul face. Joseph Bishara just goaded for
• 1:08:38
  this soundtrack. Darth Maul face like filing
• 1:08:41
  nails. Let's move.
• 1:08:43
  On to our favorite segment, shower thoughts.
• 1:08:46
  OK, well we call this further thoughts further.
• 1:08:49
  Oh, I like that OK. So my question earlier and maybe
• 1:08:53
  you can give some insight on this, why did Rose Byrne and
• 1:08:56
  Patrick Wilson move into the first creepy house when stuff
• 1:09:00
  started happening? She mentions wanting to restart,
• 1:09:03
  start fresh, like what happened? What do you think happened?
• 1:09:06
  So what? I'm gathering because they are
• 1:09:09
  divorced in the Red Door sequel. Yeah, I think that they were
• 1:09:14
  having some marital issues. They're having some problems,
• 1:09:17
  maybe with him being distant, maybe with her career
• 1:09:20
  floundering, maybe they're having money problems.
• 1:09:23
  It's hard to say. But I think they were having
• 1:09:25
  some kind of marital dysfunction and they were like, listen,
• 1:09:27
  let's move to this new place. We'll take the kids to to a
• 1:09:30
  Newtown, whatever, or a new area and it'll be a fresh start for
• 1:09:35
  us. OK, yeah, I I couldn't think of
• 1:09:38
  anything, but honestly, just based on what I saw, I think
• 1:09:42
  maybe she's having career troubles.
• 1:09:44
  Yeah. It seemed like that, like I
• 1:09:46
  don't think anybody cheated or anything it did.
• 1:09:47
  No, I don't. Think that like, I think you
• 1:09:49
  know, they never really delve into that at all like that
• 1:09:52
  because it's. It's not important.
• 1:09:53
  The fact is that they know of. Unanswerable question, you know.
• 1:09:57
  Yeah, but the. Fact is that they moved and
• 1:09:59
  yeah, this is where we are now. This film was shot in just three
• 1:10:03
  weeks. Oh.
• 1:10:04
  Yeah, which is crazy. Was filmed in like I think a
• 1:10:08
  week or two. The original.
• 1:10:10
  That's crazy. Keep the movies, Take a.
• 1:10:13
  Few months, yeah. But yeah, that would be how you
• 1:10:14
  keep the watch low. But yeah, there, there really
• 1:10:16
  are only two locations. Yeah.
• 1:10:19
  There's, you know, a couple shots in the hospital, a couple
• 1:10:21
  shots of him in the school, but it's the two homes and there's
• 1:10:24
  really not really any other locations.
• 1:10:26
  So I could see how it could be as short films.
• 1:10:29
  Movie, Yeah. Quickly filmed for sure.
• 1:10:31
  Yeah. Little Easter egg here.
• 1:10:34
  The scene where Josh is telling his class, you know, dismissing
• 1:10:38
  the class and, you know, he's they're they're walking towards
• 1:10:41
  the chalkboard. You can clearly see the drawing
• 1:10:44
  of Billy the puppet from Jigsaw in the corner of the chalkboard.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah, it's just a little nod to fans of Saw fans of James wanted
• 1:10:52
  Leonel, who made that franchise. Also, just above the drawing,
• 1:10:56
  you see the name Leslie Borchard.
• 1:10:59
  She's the one who's in charge of makeup for this movie.
• 1:11:02
  So shout out to her because the demon dark small face, fucking
• 1:11:07
  top notch, yeah. Very scary and.
• 1:11:09
  And the bride, the bride. Oh, my God, the bride's fine.
• 1:11:12
  I just mentioned here the, the, the lady in the black dress is
• 1:11:15
  Loki, the most scary character in this.
• 1:11:18
  Yeah. Especially when she's Lorraine
• 1:11:21
  showing, not Lorraine. It's yeah, Lorraine.
• 1:11:24
  The Patrick Wilson's mom is fucking handing him those
• 1:11:26
  pictures of the the childhood photos.
• 1:11:29
  Oh my God that shit is terrifying.
• 1:11:36
  You were terrified of an old woman you said used to come
• 1:11:39
  visit you at night. I dismissed your stories.
• 1:11:47
  I I told you to grow up and then I saw her for myself.
• 1:12:05
  At first I thought it was a camera problem and then I saw
• 1:12:12
  her again. In each photo, she got closer.
• 1:12:22
  Closer. I'm closer to you just.
• 1:12:30
  One by 10. Like every time I think about it
• 1:12:33
  I get like I get the ick like I get.
• 1:12:36
  Freaked out like back then you had to go and get film, Yeah.
• 1:12:39
  Yeah, yeah, you had to. Go get it.
• 1:12:41
  What's it called? Yeah, you don't.
• 1:12:44
  Have to get film developed back then yeah.
• 1:12:46
  So imagine going to dropping off your film and then picking it up
• 1:12:48
  and being like, this was like 3 weeks ago, Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  And this fucking woman is in the background watching my son.
• 1:12:53
  Yeah. And then.
• 1:12:54
  Another one reaching for my. Son and then.
• 1:12:56
  Another one and another one OHS like that's why I like that she
• 1:13:00
  reached out to eat and then just showing her face in the opening
• 1:13:03
  sequence before the credits roll like before the credits, you
• 1:13:07
  just see the zoom in of the the silhouette and the the the
• 1:13:10
  kitchen window. Oh my God, she never.
• 1:13:12
  Truly went away. She's always been watching him,
• 1:13:14
  yeah. It's really like just the
• 1:13:17
  thought of that as a parent, I just want to shit myself.
• 1:13:20
  I'm terrified. Yeah, sorry.
• 1:13:24
  Shout out to Rose Byrne. She's so underrated.
• 1:13:28
  She's so beautiful and she has so much range.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, she was in Bridesmaids. She was in Get Him to the Greek.
• 1:13:34
  She was in this movie. She was in Neighbors.
• 1:13:37
  Wildly different characters. Never movie.
• 1:13:40
  Like, sometimes you see actors and they play the same character
• 1:13:43
  in every movie. I think she's.
• 1:13:44
  Brave she takes different. She's she's like, I'll do that.
• 1:13:47
  Yeah, sure, let's do it. Yeah, her.
• 1:13:48
  Character and get him to the Greek is completely opposite of
• 1:13:50
  her character and bridesmaids completely different from her
• 1:13:53
  character and in neighbors The funny thing.
• 1:13:55
  Is she neighbors 2 movies and she's not pigeonholed like a
• 1:13:58
  scream queen, you know she's. Not Yeah, she's.
• 1:14:01
  I think she does more comedy than anything else.
• 1:14:04
  Yeah. But she's so underrated.
• 1:14:06
  And I really like that her and Dalton have matching pajamas on
• 1:14:09
  in the opening scene. That's really cute.
• 1:14:11
  It is really cute because it's like, they're probably leftover
• 1:14:13
  Christmas pajamas or something. Can we talk?
• 1:14:15
  About the long haired friend one more time.
• 1:14:17
  This guy had some of the best scares in the movie in the
• 1:14:20
  beginning. Like this is what I love about
• 1:14:23
  this movie, The build up to each scare.
• 1:14:26
  It takes its sweet time. Like the first day the books are
• 1:14:30
  on the floor and then the second day, like you know, the night
• 1:14:34
  hat, they go to sleep, nothing happens.
• 1:14:36
  You hear the crackling outside. Like you don't see stuff yet.
• 1:14:40
  And then the the the monitor, you hear the voice and the
• 1:14:42
  monitor, she goes upstairs, nothing's going on.
• 1:14:45
  Then the next day you see the shadow of like and then that one
• 1:14:49
  scene and I pointed this out to you when it's we're still at the
• 1:14:53
  1st house. Rose Byrne wakes up from a
• 1:14:56
  nightmare and it's like 1:50 in the morning and the cameras on
• 1:15:01
  her as she's panting for 30 seconds straight.
• 1:15:06
  You don't see anything. You don't.
• 1:15:08
  It doesn't cut away. It's just her.
• 1:15:11
  It's a close up of her. It's quiet and you're just like,
• 1:15:15
  what's going on? And then you start hearing
• 1:15:16
  footsteps and it cuts to the window to her right and you see
• 1:15:21
  the fucking long haired fiend walking back and forth and the
• 1:15:24
  camera slowly zooming into her face as she's, like, slowly
• 1:15:28
  getting scared. Yeah, Josh.
• 1:15:31
  Yeah. And then James, one fucking
• 1:15:34
  genius. Long haired fiend walks left.
• 1:15:37
  Long haired friend walks right. Josh.
• 1:15:56
  Josh. And then when he walks left
• 1:16:04
  again, he's inside the, inside the.
• 1:16:06
  Fucking room. The first time I watched that, I
• 1:16:08
  think that scared me more than the demon face reveal when we.
• 1:16:12
  Were watching that this time. Yeah, that fucking happens.
• 1:16:16
  She screams and then our baby started crying.
• 1:16:19
  Oh yeah, and we're both like the baby monitor.
• 1:16:24
  Like actual IRL baby was crying. Right at that, she started
• 1:16:28
  crying. Right at that scene.
• 1:16:29
  So I get up to go comfort her and it's pitch black in the
• 1:16:34
  babies room and the closet is just open and pitch black
• 1:16:38
  inside. And I was like because I had
• 1:16:41
  just gotten so scared by the long haired fiend and then our
• 1:16:44
  baby was like come and come and save me.
• 1:16:47
  Yeah. He's fucked up such.
• 1:16:48
  Bad timing. Yeah, that.
• 1:16:50
  Scene like, oh, just the the patience.
• 1:16:53
  Take some not like blow your wad right away, so to speak.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah, like this is what horror movies they don't do anymore.
• 1:17:02
  They don't take their time. Now they do.
• 1:17:04
  Sorry, they didn't for a lot of years.
• 1:17:05
  It was just boom, bullshit jump scare.
• 1:17:07
  Now it takes its sweet time, yeah.
• 1:17:10
  It it does take its time I want to know the back story of the
• 1:17:14
  smiling family in the living room and what what happened I.
• 1:17:18
  Mean like just. They ended up shot by shotgun,
• 1:17:22
  but like I we see little glimpses.
• 1:17:25
  I wanna know. I wanna know the whole story.
• 1:17:26
  What the fuck happened? Sounds.
• 1:17:28
  Like just looking at it looks like they're they're, they're
• 1:17:31
  fake happy. Like it's a bunch of people that
• 1:17:32
  are living for other people. They're not really happy.
• 1:17:35
  They're miserable. And one of them is the most
• 1:17:37
  miserable and she just grabs a shotgun and blows everybody away
• 1:17:40
  and. Why are they in that?
• 1:17:42
  How do they really live in that house or just in the further?
• 1:17:44
  Everybody's in that house trying to get to Dalton, I think.
• 1:17:47
  The Further is like a dream, almost like a dream state, and
• 1:17:51
  people are just roaming because in the second movie, do you
• 1:17:55
  think it's limbo? Yeah, it's kind of like in
• 1:17:58
  between, which is really scary to think about.
• 1:18:00
  But in the second movie, you see Patrick Wilson in The Further
• 1:18:03
  and he walks into something like there was a character like a A
• 1:18:08
  in The Further that he runs into, and it's just fucking
• 1:18:12
  terrifying. Like he's just walking around
• 1:18:14
  it. Could it could be like
• 1:18:16
  purgatory? Yeah, honestly, it's it's hard
• 1:18:18
  to say with the further is it's very it's open to
• 1:18:21
  interpretation. Although this is the first
• 1:18:24
  Insidious film. Yeah, the subsequent sequels go
• 1:18:27
  back in time because of the Elise character.
• 1:18:31
  Um, so this is actually technically the third film in
• 1:18:34
  the chronology. Oh.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah, because the. 3rd movie was before this and the last key was
• 1:18:40
  before this. This was.
• 1:18:42
  Actually #3 and then Cities 2 is #4 one thing I.
• 1:18:45
  Really appreciate about this movie and Insidious chapter 2
• 1:18:48
  James Wand really thought about little details about the time
• 1:18:52
  because in the further time isn't like it's in the thing, so
• 1:18:57
  you can be at any time in the further and you know when in
• 1:19:02
  Insidious 1 where he wakes up the alarm goes off and the front
• 1:19:05
  door is open multiple times. Horrifying.
• 1:19:08
  Yeah, in the. 2nd movie. In the second movie, it's
• 1:19:11
  Patrick Wilson that opens the door and the alarm is going off
• 1:19:15
  because he's trying to get into the house.
• 1:19:16
  Yeah, right. So it's just little details,
• 1:19:19
  like who the fuck is opening the door?
• 1:19:21
  You're terrified, right? He grabs the the fire poker.
• 1:19:23
  But then in the second movie, it's him.
• 1:19:25
  He's in the further he's trying to like, you know, he's I think
• 1:19:30
  he's trying to find his way back.
• 1:19:31
  He's. Trying to let his wife know that
• 1:19:33
  he's trapped. Yeah, but yeah, one thing I
• 1:19:37
  mentioned the the scene where Renee is spooked in the attic in
• 1:19:40
  the 1st house, it mirrors the the the attention of the iconic
• 1:19:44
  attic scene in The Exorcist. There's a little bit of a homage
• 1:19:48
  to that. And then also in Poltergeist.
• 1:19:50
  For Poltergeist, the scene where Specs puts a raw steak on his
• 1:19:54
  face after being injured is a direct reference to the
• 1:19:56
  hallucination scene in Poltergeist.
• 1:19:59
  OHP, just a little. Homage there, which is really
• 1:20:02
  nice. I know that.
• 1:20:03
  Yeah. There's quite a few Easter eggs,
• 1:20:05
  I mean the saw ones, yeah. So what is that little boy?
• 1:20:10
  Ghost Renee says when she got up close, he wasn't a boy.
• 1:20:15
  Yeah, it looked. Like a little man.
• 1:20:16
  What was? He What does that mean?
• 1:20:18
  I don't know, maybe a little man just he did look.
• 1:20:21
  Like he had an old man face, but what is what?
• 1:20:24
  Like what was he? Was he a demon?
• 1:20:26
  There's just spirits that don't go to the next level, just kind
• 1:20:31
  of roaming. Was he the spirit of a little
• 1:20:33
  boy? Or was he this some kind of?
• 1:20:34
  Creepy. Whatever it was, he liked to
• 1:20:36
  fucking Tiny Tim and it was terrifying.
• 1:20:39
  I'm not afraid. Yeah, it was pretty scary.
• 1:20:41
  Scary. The laugh when you running
• 1:20:43
  across the room so I. Got I'm gonna freak out.
• 1:20:45
  Don't talk about it. Like All in all this movie, I
• 1:20:49
  think just every little detail about it, you have multiple
• 1:20:53
  scary characters. You've got the bride, you got
• 1:20:55
  the long haired fiend, you got the the the little boy.
• 1:20:59
  There's all these little characters in it of the demonic
• 1:21:03
  characters and they're all top notch scary.
• 1:21:06
  It's almost like James Wan had ideas for multiple characters or
• 1:21:11
  Leonel as well. They had multiple ideas for all.
• 1:21:13
  Let's make a movie about the bride and the black dress.
• 1:21:16
  Let's make a movie about this. And he's just like, yo, let's
• 1:21:19
  put them all together and just terrify everybody.
• 1:21:22
  Well, the funny. Thing about the Bride is,
• 1:21:25
  although she is a demon being played by a man, yeah, it wasn't
• 1:21:30
  till they started working on the sequel that they decided the
• 1:21:33
  character was actually a man dressed as a woman.
• 1:21:35
  Yeah, it. Was it was a man like playing
• 1:21:37
  the bride? Yeah, it was a man.
• 1:21:38
  Playing the playing a bride, but they didn't have the back story
• 1:21:41
  of him being a crossdresser until later, Yeah.
• 1:21:44
  Let's talk about the ending. Want to talk about anything?
• 1:21:48
  Yeah. So the ending Josh is trying to
• 1:21:51
  get back to his body from the further he sends Dalton.
• 1:21:53
  They have to split up because I have to go back to their
• 1:21:55
  respective bodies. Yeah.
• 1:21:57
  And he pauses to talk to the bride and ask why are you trying
• 1:22:01
  to? Yeah, what?
• 1:22:02
  Like why would you leave? Doing here, he's like, what are
• 1:22:04
  you doing here? Yeah, like why?
• 1:22:05
  Won't you leave me alone? Leave me alone.
• 1:22:06
  Get away from me, get away from my family.
• 1:22:08
  And the bride just smiles because she's now close enough.
• 1:22:12
  She, he is finally gone, back to astral projecting.
• 1:22:15
  And she was so close before that she now has this chance to take
• 1:22:19
  him and take over his body. And she takes, she goes into his
• 1:22:22
  body. Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  And he's talking to Elise. And he passes Elise some
• 1:22:28
  pictures, and she looks at his hand, and she sees the bride's
• 1:22:32
  hand. And then she takes a picture of
• 1:22:34
  him. Yeah.
• 1:22:35
  And she? Freaks out, he freaks.
• 1:22:37
  Out. Why would you do?
• 1:22:38
  That, you know, I don't like getting photos taken of me like
• 1:22:41
  Patrick Wilson. So mellow the whole movie.
• 1:22:43
  And then right at that. And he's like the rage comes
• 1:22:46
  out. It's really unsettling because
• 1:22:48
  he's a pretty chill dad. Well, he he murders.
• 1:22:50
  Her. Why did you do that?
• 1:22:57
  Why would you do that to me when you know how I feel about that?
• 1:23:00
  Why? Why?
• 1:23:04
  Why no? In fact, you're never going to
• 1:23:09
  sleep again. You have to stay awake for the
• 1:23:11
  rest of your life. Why?
• 1:23:16
  No, I know, but his reaction is very unsettling.
• 1:23:18
  You're like, oh, something's not right with this guy.
• 1:23:21
  And they choked her to death. Yeah, like, OHS Poor Elise.
• 1:23:24
  She gets fucking wrong then. Renee picks up the camera, sees
• 1:23:27
  the picture, and then Patrick Wilson touches her shoulder and
• 1:23:30
  she's like. But then in the second movie,
• 1:23:33
  she doesn't know. No, it's kind of weird.
• 1:23:36
  Here's the thing, my only gripe with the ending, I think the
• 1:23:39
  ending is amazing. It's the nice, really scary
• 1:23:42
  cherry on the sundae to a fucking wicked horror movie.
• 1:23:46
  Because you're like a lot of movies try to do a little jump
• 1:23:49
  scare at the end or a fake one. Yeah, but this really, really
• 1:23:53
  did it well. What I wish they didn't do was
• 1:23:56
  they show like a little quick flashback as to what Elise saw,
• 1:24:01
  right. And she looks at the camera and
• 1:24:03
  it's a picture of the the bride. Yeah, it's.
• 1:24:06
  Scary. They shouldn't.
• 1:24:07
  Have shown us that, but it's scary.
• 1:24:08
  No, it's scarier if she touches the hand, sees something weird,
• 1:24:14
  takes a picture, and then he freaks out, chokes her, and then
• 1:24:19
  they come and see what's going on and then she sees the dead
• 1:24:23
  Elise. Rose Burns sees Elise dead and
• 1:24:27
  then you hear Patrick go honey or whatever, and then it gets
• 1:24:31
  cuts to her turning around and it goes black.
• 1:24:34
  Renee. I'm right?
• 1:24:36
  Here, you don't know what's happening.
• 1:24:41
  You're like, what happened? What happened?
• 1:24:42
  Oh, my God, my God, my God. And then people are like, what
• 1:24:44
  happened? Did the bride take over?
• 1:24:45
  The bride took over, for sure. The bride took over.
• 1:24:47
  Yeah, but. People wouldn't realize that,
• 1:24:48
  and they'd be like, why did Patrick Wilson kill?
• 1:24:50
  They would have. Because it wasn't.
• 1:24:52
  But he looks in the mirror, right?
• 1:24:53
  They would have like, we're not stupid.
• 1:24:55
  The audience isn't stupid. And then the second movie they
• 1:24:58
  move into Lorraine's house and her husband is acting off but
• 1:25:05
  not enough for her to notice. And then things start happening.
• 1:25:09
  Oht man, I wanna watch second one right now.
• 1:25:11
  Yeah, the. Second one so good at the
• 1:25:13
  beginning of the second one is so good.
• 1:25:15
  Everything about it is is good. Everything.
• 1:25:18
  Is really good, yeah. So does this movie hit different
• 1:25:22
  as a parent A? Million percent.
• 1:25:26
  A million percent. It does.
• 1:25:28
  So the scene where they're told that Dalton is in a coma is
• 1:25:31
  every parent's worst nightmare. It's absolutely horrifying.
• 1:25:35
  And as a parent, you obviously put yourself in a situation
• 1:25:39
  where you would be going through that OHP my.
• 1:25:43
  God and it's on it's. Unfathomable.
• 1:25:46
  I forgot that that kids in the coma for three months.
• 1:25:49
  It's fucked. That's.
• 1:25:51
  My worst fucking that would. That would just destroy like I,
• 1:25:54
  I, you know what, the one thing I'm like, oh, it's not really
• 1:25:56
  realistic, but I, I, I don't know.
• 1:25:58
  I never been through that. I don't wanna ever be through
• 1:26:00
  that. But three months and they're,
• 1:26:02
  you know, Rose Byrne looks the same.
• 1:26:04
  She doesn't look. I like if something like that
• 1:26:07
  happened I would be just in at the bottom of a bottle, no?
• 1:26:12
  She looks frazzled. Her hair is all messed up, like
• 1:26:14
  she looks like she's. Going through like I, I don't
• 1:26:16
  even know what I would do. I'd be just a complete mess.
• 1:26:20
  I don't think I'd be working. There's no way.
• 1:26:23
  Like you'd be a train wreck also.
• 1:26:24
  Yeah, but that's. Something, he said.
• 1:26:25
  Who do you think is gonna pay for Dalton's medical bills?
• 1:26:27
  Yeah, I know, but. Who?
• 1:26:28
  Nothing happened for three months.
• 1:26:30
  The guy was in a coma. Nothing happened.
• 1:26:32
  Well, because. The doctor said.
• 1:26:33
  Like he's not brain damaged, like there's not actually any.
• 1:26:36
  Demonic style, like nothing happened, it was quiet and then
• 1:26:40
  all of a sudden shit starts happening again after three
• 1:26:42
  months. Also the scene where the nurse
• 1:26:44
  is explaining like how to put the pipe in the kid's nose and
• 1:26:48
  replace it and stuff like that. Like that whole scene, it's a
• 1:26:52
  minute or two and it's long. And like that is every parent's
• 1:26:56
  worst nightmare. Having to listen to a nurse
• 1:27:00
  explain that to you or something worse.
• 1:27:02
  That is every parent's nightmare.
• 1:27:04
  And I felt so bad for his little brother.
• 1:27:06
  He won an award at school, but he like I know.
• 1:27:08
  He gets neglected. No, he.
• 1:27:10
  Didn't show his parents because he's like, they're sad like I
• 1:27:13
  don't want to show them but he's also.
• 1:27:15
  Being a bit neglected like he has.
• 1:27:16
  He has a baby sibling and a sibling in a coma.
• 1:27:19
  Like, how much time is gonna be left for foster?
• 1:27:21
  Almost none, yeah. Well, like I said, this movie,
• 1:27:24
  it fucking hits different as a parent, like everything.
• 1:27:28
  The morning sequence when they're getting ready for
• 1:27:30
  school, I'm like, yo, this is too real.
• 1:27:32
  The baby crying, the fear of something happening to your baby
• 1:27:36
  in the crib, like in their room, the monitor, something crazy
• 1:27:40
  happening to the monitor, people breaking into your home.
• 1:27:43
  Like there's so many things that as a parent, like you protect
• 1:27:46
  your kid, you wish safety for your kids.
• 1:27:50
  This movie really just knocks on all those rings, all those
• 1:27:53
  bells, and you're just like, Oh no, no, it's really fucked,
• 1:27:57
  honestly. I don't know.
• 1:27:58
  It's it's also just like very relatable, like Renee telling
• 1:28:01
  Josh, oh, the baby wouldn't nap properly.
• 1:28:04
  So I couldn't get anything done like that could.
• 1:28:07
  I say. That you all the time and I'm
• 1:28:09
  like, oh, she didn't nap properly today and I was gonna,
• 1:28:11
  you know, clean this when she was napping.
• 1:28:13
  I was going to do that while she's napping you.
• 1:28:15
  Tell me every night we were gonna go, we put my ice cream
• 1:28:19
  on. Yeah.
• 1:28:20
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  We were like, it's like we were going to go to the grocery
• 1:28:23
  store, but her naps were messed up, so I couldn't actually end
• 1:28:25
  up leaving the house. So I was going to do this.
• 1:28:27
  It's gonna do that. And then also, um, her asking
• 1:28:31
  Josh if he's taking the boys to school in the morning and he's
• 1:28:33
  like, I can't, That's, that's me.
• 1:28:35
  And you, someone's like, can you please just take him to daycare
• 1:28:37
  and you're like, I'm gonna be late for work.
• 1:28:39
  Yeah. Can't do it, sorry.
• 1:28:41
  Eating plastic apples in the morning?
• 1:28:43
  You would. Never.
• 1:28:44
  It was a wax, apple, whatever. But you're not an idiot like
• 1:28:47
  him. He's not.
• 1:28:47
  An idiot, He's a. Fucking idiot.
• 1:28:49
  Oh my gosh. He too much anyway.
• 1:28:51
  Also little little shout out Patrick Wilson.
• 1:28:54
  He does a remix to Al Pacino Godfather Part 3 quote when he
• 1:28:58
  pulls the white hair. One of us.
• 1:28:59
  Yeah, I. Noticed that which I really.
• 1:29:01
  Appreciate it. I thought it was pretty cool,
• 1:29:04
  but yeah, this movie is amazing. It's terrifying.
• 1:29:07
  If you want to shit your pants even more, watch it as a parent.
• 1:29:11
  If you've seen it before having kids and watch it now,
• 1:29:14
  especially if you're a parent of some young small children or
• 1:29:17
  even a baby, you will probably turn the movie off because.
• 1:29:22
  No, it's still really good and really scary, but it does, it
• 1:29:24
  does tap into an even deeper fear as a parent.
• 1:29:28
  So you have to, you have to really be prepared for that
• 1:29:31
  going in. Yeah, you got long haired fiend.
• 1:29:35
  You got Darth Maul taking your kid and then using the coma for
• 1:29:40
  three months off? Fuck that I know.
• 1:29:44
  And he's scared when he's talking to them through a lease.
• 1:29:46
  Yeah, 1. Thing I noticed too, when the
• 1:29:48
  long haired friend is standing behind the baby's crib, behind
• 1:29:51
  the veil, the baby's standing up.
• 1:29:54
  Oh opposite. Like give me the fuck out of
• 1:29:57
  here. Like I felt so bad for that
• 1:29:59
  little baby Kelly. Yeah.
• 1:30:02
  Also that monitor, if they had a video monitor or I don't even
• 1:30:05
  want to know what they would see.
• 1:30:07
  I don't want to know either. I want to.
• 1:30:09
  I want now. OK, how many gas masks out of 10
• 1:30:13
  do you give this movie? Gas masks cause she puts on that
• 1:30:17
  gas. Mask and she's talking to A to
• 1:30:20
  specs I. Give this movie fucking 10 out
• 1:30:23
  of 10 gas masks 10 oh 10 out of 10.
• 1:30:27
  It's still you will shit your pants watching this.
• 1:30:30
  I don't care who you are, I give it. 8 out of 10 it's really
• 1:30:33
  good, but it's not a 10 out of 10 I.
• 1:30:35
  Give it a 10. I love this movie soundtrack.
• 1:30:38
  The sound. The characters, the story is
• 1:30:41
  just so like it's super relatable and it's low budget
• 1:30:46
  and it, it started off a whole chain of fucking epic horror
• 1:30:50
  movies. Like this is the, the, the base
• 1:30:52
  recipe, man, this was it. This way slapped so hard.
• 1:30:56
  And I don't care who you are, I don't care how I don't believe
• 1:31:00
  in demons. I don't believe in ghosts.
• 1:31:02
  Sit down, put this fucking movie on.
• 1:31:04
  Don't turn the volume down when scary stuff is about to start,
• 1:31:08
  leave the fucking volume. Because my brother used to do
• 1:31:11
  that. We watch scary movies and you
• 1:31:12
  just see him like tapping the volume and you just see the
• 1:31:14
  volume meter going down and then the jump scare would happen and
• 1:31:18
  he's like those movies and scary.
• 1:31:19
  I'm like, fucking leave the movie.
• 1:31:21
  That's like audio is 50% of the experience.
• 1:31:28
  It's true, and it's very, very important in this movie, Yeah.
• 1:31:30
  And it's even just the soundtrack, like it's amazing.
• 1:31:34
  This movie is phenomenal and it'll scare anybody.
• 1:31:37
  And we're showing this to your parents, alright?
• 1:31:39
  Well, you can convince them to fucking show.
• 1:31:41
  This to your parents. All right, everybody, that was
• 1:31:44
  Insidious. I hope you enjoyed this, this
• 1:31:46
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• 1:31:49
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• 1:31:52
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• 1:31:55
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