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Out Of Context: Yung Miami · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: M hm, get it, Koresha Charlamagne, how you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: I feel good? How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: I'm blessed, Black and Holly. Favorite man, I'm happy to see.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not want to argue with you for so long
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  Speaker 3: I want to argue.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with you. It's it's you know.
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  Speaker 2: I always say you one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I already look up to you, I already do like.
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  Speaker 4: I just feel like you are a shrink forward person
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  Speaker 4: and you'll tell it how it is and it comes
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  Speaker 4: from a mature space.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate You're gonna say how you feel, and that
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  Speaker 2: is what it is. It ain't. It ain't because you
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  Speaker 2: feel a way like. If you like, you like it.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't, don't absolutely and I respect that.
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  Speaker 3: I respect you too. You know, I fuck with you.
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  Speaker 3: But I heard you say that you would You said
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  Speaker 3: you said that a man needs a net worth of
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  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars, And.
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  Speaker 2: I know your stuff. I'm just saying, do you work
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  Speaker 2: to that point? You know how good you feel?
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  Speaker 1: How you're talking about Okay, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Just you know less than one thousandth of one percent
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  Speaker 3: of people reached that type.
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  Speaker 4: Of networth I know, and I mean you a hard
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  Speaker 4: workingman if you got and I want me a hard
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  Speaker 4: working man.
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  Speaker 3: What does it have to be?
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  Speaker 4: You didn't mean a hundred though, I didn't mean it literally,
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  Speaker 4: but I would love for him to have at least
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  Speaker 4: But that don't mean nothing. Money don't mean everything, you know,
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  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, like, I know, I said a
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  Speaker 4: lot of shit, but.
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  Speaker 3: I did mean it, though, could you date a regular
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  Speaker 3: dude though, like just you died in Miami, dude work
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  Speaker 3: at FedEx, he got a betefit God damn.
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  Speaker 2: And not even just that, I just I like what
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  Speaker 2: I like.
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  Speaker 4: I just I think that I'm like, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: into nice things and not saying that a man at
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  Speaker 4: work a job can't give me nice things. But I
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  Speaker 4: think I want to date somebody that's like in the
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  Speaker 4: same caliber me.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I understand. Yeah, Now, what happened to the Koreasian
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  Speaker 3: Please podcast? Now everybody loved the podcast. You were supposed
• 1:51
  Speaker 3: to be the next black Oprah. You said you, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Still lit oph already black. But I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: how like a person is like black, but they like
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  Speaker 2: black black? Ora, I'm saying like it's like the hood.
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  Speaker 4: The hood. Okay, that's what I meant. Let me, let
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  Speaker 4: me not. I mean the hood like it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: like Oprah, but on a hood level. And Corisia, please,
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  Speaker 4: you know I spoke.
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  Speaker 2: To you about it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to find the right home, on the
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  Speaker 4: right partner to come back for season three.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, we love to have you on Black Effect, but
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  Speaker 3: but are you going to We need you to be
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  Speaker 3: consistent though, how often would you want to do it?
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  Speaker 2: I think with me being an artist realistically, and I
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  Speaker 2: honestly think it's a flow of things and how you
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  Speaker 2: do things. I think for me.
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  Speaker 4: Korecia, things work because people wanted it. It was like
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  Speaker 4: I want more, I want more, And on top of
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  Speaker 4: half of the podcast, I still got to be an artist.
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  Speaker 4: I still got to release music. So you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to just see too much of me because it's like
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  Speaker 4: they got to see them. They gotta have the music
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  Speaker 4: and then they go into the podcast. I would love
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  Speaker 4: to be consistent, but I also think that's what worked
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  Speaker 4: for me.
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  Speaker 2: I love the flow up me.
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  Speaker 3: I love that you said that you think artists nowadays
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  Speaker 3: are too overexposed.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and I think we feel like we know them
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  Speaker 4: too much, like superstars. Then you was just Newtleman as
• 3:05
  Speaker 4: Michael Jackson or a performer. Now we know what happened
• 3:09
  Speaker 4: with your baby daddy. Can we can get the police reports,
• 3:12
  Speaker 4: we can get an now on one call. It's just
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  Speaker 4: too much that it kind of leans like yoah, that's
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  Speaker 4: this person or that's that person. It don't give the
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  Speaker 4: celarbity status because it's too it's too accessible.
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  Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you was too over exposed?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I think when people know too much of your personal life,
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  Speaker 4: it just makes them feel like they know you on
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  Speaker 4: a on a personal level when it's not supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be like that.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 3: So. I mean, I know you had to be at
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  Speaker 3: reality show that you were filming. Then you take a
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  Speaker 3: step back from that because you felt like it was
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  Speaker 3: too old exposed.
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  Speaker 4: Going into it, I was excited about it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: oh my god, I'm gonna have a reality show. But
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  Speaker 4: I think once I got into it, it's not really
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  Speaker 4: reality like it's stage.
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  Speaker 2: It's stage reality.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm the type of person I want everything real
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  Speaker 4: wrong on count I don't want to go go back
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  Speaker 4: and do that again because I can't go back and
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  Speaker 4: do that again, like that shit's what it was. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that it became too much of that that
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  Speaker 4: it didn't feel real. And I was just like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't like this because they take certain sound bites and
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  Speaker 4: it become a whole story that's not kind of like
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  Speaker 4: what you signed up for. So I had to take
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  Speaker 4: a step back. And it's like, if I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 4: something like that, I want to do it on my own.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you've been trying to find a space
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  Speaker 3: to be comfortable, to really just express yourself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think that I am a real, raw,
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  Speaker 4: authentic person and I'm not strategic, like I just show
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  Speaker 4: up as me and whatever you get is that's me.
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  Speaker 2: That would be your experience in me.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that the world now, like the world
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  Speaker 4: that we live in now, you gotta just.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta just move a certain way and.
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  Speaker 4: Just just be so polished, and it's not fun.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that I can't. I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I can't live and be creative in a space like that,
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  Speaker 4: Like I can't be my best self if I have
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  Speaker 4: to be strategic or I gotta move this way. I
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  Speaker 4: can't do this and I can't say that it's not fun.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like though, you know, when you see people
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  Speaker 3: like Cardi, for example, Cardi's always herself, I feel like
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  Speaker 3: she she made it to where you can be yourself
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  Speaker 3: if you're not afraid to be yourself. I think sometimes
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  Speaker 3: people be afraid to be themself because they're afraid of
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  Speaker 3: the backlash.
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  Speaker 2: All myself, I get crucified for being myself.
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  Speaker 4: Like I can say anything, and it's just when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to certain people, they take it a certain way.
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  Speaker 4: It's like if this person said, but when I said
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  Speaker 4: we all, I'm saying the same shit. But when I
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  Speaker 4: say it's just like, well god damn, like I just said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I think it's I can't explain it, but
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I be myself.
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  Speaker 2: I'm myself.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not never like I say a lot
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  Speaker 4: of shit, I do a lot, and that's me just
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  Speaker 4: being myself, Like I like to go live, have fun.
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  Speaker 4: That was another thing that people loved about me, my personality.
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  Speaker 4: Going out with Sincena just can'ting on now.
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  Speaker 3: We just.
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  Speaker 4: Talking about each other. That's us in our natural form.
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  Speaker 4: Some people understanding, some people don't. Some people like that
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  Speaker 4: could never be my friends.
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  Speaker 2: That's our friend group. That's how we have fun. But
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  Speaker 2: it's all love. We understand each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think people dislike you like they act
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  Speaker 3: like they do on social media. I think that you
• 6:10
  Speaker 3: give them a response. And when you give somebody a response,
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: they keep messing with you just to get a response. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I bet you. Sometimes you be hitting people and they
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  Speaker 3: be like I just wanted you to reply.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you.
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  Speaker 2: Like, why you fucking with me? I'm cool, Like I'm
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  Speaker 2: really a cool person.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a human, Like I'm a great I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I'm a great human, Like I am a genuine person.
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  Speaker 2: If I don't like you, I ain't even coming your Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if I fuck with you, I'm fuck with you.
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  Speaker 4: But and I'm just I'm literally like I come from nothing,
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  Speaker 4: so people have to understand like this is how it
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  Speaker 4: was brought up. It's still a room to grow, and
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  Speaker 4: I still gotta grow. I still have a lot to learn.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like I'm learning as I grow. And I
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  Speaker 4: just think that it's like from my upbringing, Like I
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  Speaker 4: literally grew up in oprah Locka inner projects, Like I
• 6:55
  Speaker 4: go over there. I just did my music video of
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  Speaker 4: news Flash there and I'm just like, I get it.
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  Speaker 4: People walk around like they don't dress up.
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  Speaker 2: It's bunny. It's slides like how you wake up, is
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  Speaker 2: how you going outside? You know, it's not like it's
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  Speaker 2: just in the hood.
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  Speaker 3: How do you think you made it up?
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  Speaker 4: I think I was always destined to be who I
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  Speaker 4: am because I always just hit a personality. Even though
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  Speaker 4: I grew up in the hood. My mom dated mean
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  Speaker 4: with money like her me and she dated. They took
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  Speaker 4: care of her. They made sure our kids were straight.
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  Speaker 4: So she always tried to provide the best life she can.
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  Speaker 4: And she was like also popular. She was like a
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  Speaker 4: booster and she.
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  Speaker 3: Just was Yeah she should be popular.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she probably had all because they come to you
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  Speaker 2: all the ship yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Closed, okay, polo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah all that. So you know, just just seeing it
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  Speaker 2: and just seeing her make away, its just, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Are you scared right now because you're out here solo? No?
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  Speaker 3: I love it, Okay, I love it.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it's a new error for me. I
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  Speaker 4: feel like from the time I came out, it always
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  Speaker 4: been the people saw me, they learned me as the
• 8:10
  Speaker 4: city girls. I was going through the stuff with my mom,
• 8:13
  Speaker 4: my mom went to prison, I was raising her kids.
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  Speaker 4: I always just like holding something down. I never really
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  Speaker 4: got a chance to like pouring to me or just
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  Speaker 4: be the best version of myself or really enjoyed because
• 8:24
  Speaker 4: I was always holding something down or had to work,
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: you know, extra hard. Like my mom went to prison,
• 8:29
  Speaker 4: I had to take care of her kids. So as
• 8:31
  Speaker 4: the group break up, JT go to prison, then she
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: come out. We go through all of this stuff that
• 8:36
  Speaker 4: were going through. So like now I'm just like, yes,
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  Speaker 4: Like I get a chance to be creative. I get
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  Speaker 4: a chance that just make my own decisions. I get
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  Speaker 4: a chance to just be free, like and I also
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: learned so much from a group, and just I know
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  Speaker 4: more of the business, like you know. So I just
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  Speaker 4: feel good, Like I feel happy. I feel like I'm ready.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not scared. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 3: So who was young Miami without the city girls, without
• 9:01
  Speaker 3: celebrity relationships, without the headlines.
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  Speaker 4: No, your Miami is that you are all that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's your Miami. I mean that's what's the start of
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  Speaker 4: my career. And that's everything I went through. That's shape
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  Speaker 4: me as Yo Miami. I feel like I can't run
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  Speaker 4: away from it. I can't run away from Yo Miami.
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  Speaker 4: Up the city orls I can't run away from Yo
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  Speaker 4: Miyaimi that went through that. Y'all saw me every face
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  Speaker 4: of my life, and y'all going to continue to see
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  Speaker 4: me in my new era.
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  Speaker 3: So are you trying to show people more of the
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  Speaker 3: of the evolved young Miami or just the real careish both?
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  Speaker 2: Because I have evolved.
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  Speaker 4: I think the last time I came out to Brefast Club,
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  Speaker 4: I probably was like in my twenties. I'm thirty now,
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  Speaker 4: so I do look at like different. I do see
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: things different when y'all do want to move different.
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  Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'm like, bang up, Like even though I
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  Speaker 2: love it, I'd be like.
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  Speaker 4: Is up? Like when I've been looking back at It's
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: like sometimes you ever like this is a real thing.
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  Speaker 4: You go to the club, you drawn, you look at
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  Speaker 4: your story, you wake up and you delete all that shit.
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: Sometimes that's how I feel like I look at somebody
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: be like it's room from improvement there, you know, like
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: you gotta clean up at some point. You gotta get
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: these brands the want to you know, like yeah we
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: love real, Yeah we love authentic, but you gotta show
• 10:13
  Speaker 4: some era of growth or elevation or you people gonna
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  Speaker 4: look at you as you ain't.
• 10:19
  Speaker 2: You ain't showing nothing new.
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: But on this new album, you're still giving them classic
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: young Miami. You're still out here.
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: You know, you still got to finish me. Yeah, you
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: still gotta have your hand out. Okay, we still got
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: to build your own doing that, you know, of course,
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: of course, of course. But I do feel like me
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: and should be some type of support. That's what I
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: That's the message I'll be trying to get through. I
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  Speaker 4: just feel like I feel like sometime men and I
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: say this a lot because I don't, and that's why
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, I want to know one hundred million dollars.
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: A lot of men just see a pretty face, see
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: a pretty body, and for them it's like dishes another
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: picture on my roster, like they be building rosters. Like
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of men are mature in mind, and you
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: you have to be as a woman, you have to be.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta know what you want and life. You gotta
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: know what you want.
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  Speaker 2: I know what I want.
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  Speaker 4: So if I know that we're gonna have sex, we
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: don't have sex, but you have to do something for me.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not prostitution, it's not It's just I'm a
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: woman like you gotta add value to me, and sometimes
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: I gotta lead this relationship situationship with something because if not,
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: we fuck when we in our teens, that's something you
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: do in your twenties. I'm thirty now, No, I listen.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a man's job is to protect and provide.
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  Speaker 3: I understand the logic. I'm just saying, bring the number
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  Speaker 3: down one hundred million.
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  Speaker 2: But Charlamagne, that's man. I'm trying to go up this.
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  Speaker 2: I want a vacation. I got kids. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: live my best life.
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  Speaker 4: Life is you know, life, life is weird these days,
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  Speaker 4: Like I just want to live my best life while
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: I can, and I just feel like that's what I want.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: At this point, you're not afraid to talk about your roster.
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  Speaker 3: I heard Caresia's tales when you flipped the too Short
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  Speaker 3: joint freaky tale.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: What made you want to want to do that record?
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: I think it's hip hop when I listen to it.
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  Speaker 4: Workers like that, like look him, even Nicki Minaj is
• 12:04
  Speaker 4: just coming up as a new artist. I want to
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: have the impact, like when people go like people that
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: are your Miami fans, like when she did that's too short,
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  Speaker 4: and she filed it like this, like that's what it's
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: sparking me.
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  Speaker 3: I'm only going to assume that everybody on the record
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: is real, because one line is definitely real. So I'm
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: just gonna assume everybody on the record. Okay, why do
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: women like the shame men for eating Bookito Cause on
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  Speaker 3: freak Details you say, lame goofy ass nigga always trying
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  Speaker 3: to eat bitch booty ass nigga. Why are you shaming
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: men for that?
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  Speaker 2: You must be eating boy.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: I'm from South Carolina. I'm from the South.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's a grown mass work that there is.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: A grown man. But why she ain't men for it?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not No, I'm just saying like, because it's like
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: I got two holes, Why do you want to eat
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: the one that's in the back.
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  Speaker 3: What if he's doing boats appetizer entree entree apple sometimes
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  Speaker 3: or whatever you into it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a shame too it, but it's like you
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  Speaker 4: always want to eat back when it's one of the
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: friend It's kind of like, okay, no, no, no offense
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  Speaker 4: in man, they do.
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  Speaker 3: What I shot see you see. I like when I
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: hear women talk like that because you get to see
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  Speaker 3: what women really think. So when God be trying to
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: do that, y'all be talking shit about I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Just not like, I don't like the whole bad that'll
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: be wet, like it's just steel weird. So it's not
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: my purfoence. Like we all got purpose and I just
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: don't like that. Okay, hold me away.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: All right, let's stay on freaky tails. You say you
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: name a bunch of men, and you say, my billionaire
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: nigga that stay on the island used to tell me
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: take that, take that while he fucked me for hours.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Now we know who that is. That's Diddy. In light
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: of everything that is transpired, why weren't you afraid to
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  Speaker 3: still say that?
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: Because I think that I should be able to be
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: I should be able to express myself. I should be
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: able to say my life experiences. I don't feel like
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: I should be silence or I can't speak on anything,
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: or I should be scared because I just was in
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: a relationship with somebody and what we had was in
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: a crime or what was wrong. So it's like expressing myself.
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  Speaker 4: It's music. It's my music. It's my time to tell
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: my story and I want to have fun.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do that when someone you know you were
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: connected to, if you come to the center of serious
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: allegations and legal issues, how do you reconcile the person
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: you knew with the headlines everybody else see.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: I think in life, you always get put in something
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: or a situation where you got to you know, you
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: got to make a life decision, and you got to.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Look back and say, like what makes sense for me
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: right now?
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: You know, like I can love this person, but I
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: can love this person from a distance, or you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: I can have a relationship with this person, but maybe
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I got to come back to it, like maybe I
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: got to come back around.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: And I think that that was one of those situations.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: You wrote a letter about you for Diddy's character, and
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: a lot of people were upset because it was like,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: you know, how can she do that? After seeing the
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: video with Cassie, a lot of people wanted to know
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: why you decided to steal write that letter.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: I think I wrote it up for a change, man.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: I think that the man that I met and that
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: I experienced was changed. I'm not gonna justify some bush
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: or like support some but if I felt like that
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: person was a change, and I felt like a person
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: that I met was change.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: It was a different experience. So that's why I wrote
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: the letter.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Do you think you old like your fans explanation or
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: do you feel like your personal relationships with nobody's business
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: with your own?
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like both.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like, as people that's supporting you, that's buying
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: it to you, and I love you, you have to
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: get them some type of you know, it's it's they
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: gotta be able to connect with you.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: So I can't just be like, fuck y'all, this my
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: personal life. I don't owe y'all shit.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: It's having me that do feel like they were at
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: the end of the day being a real person, you know.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I felt like that though, is open to them.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: How do you how do you reconcile supporting someone publicly
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: when the court of public opinion is saying something completely different.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Because if I meet you today or it's my time
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: that I experienced with you, it's one way. I can
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: only judge that person that way. So it's just like
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I can't speak to nothing that I don't know of.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I can only I can only speak to the person
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: that I'm at. And if I met this person that
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: changed my life, that helped me grow, that treated me
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: like a queen, that made me believe in myself.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Is like, that's what I know.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: And I feel like people can have opinions, but I
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: can only judge a person off of what I know
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: and what I experienced. Like, I can't speak on nothing
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: that I never was a part of, that I never knew,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Like I can only judge who I'm at.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I can only judge who who I was in a
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: relationship with.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Were you were you afraid that they might call you
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: to testify?
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: No, I never get nothing. I don't have nothing to have.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: You seem like a very loyal person I am. At
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: one point, does loyalty become a liability? That's a good question,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: chlne we got time. We can just see that. Tell you.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: I mean meaning, because you might be with somebody and
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: at some point you realize just you even being love
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to this person to a fault, at some point you
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: might have to cut them off because they might start
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: bringing you down.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I understand that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: But also I just feel like if a person that's
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: just say, for instance, right, I'm gonna just choose this
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: as a scenario, imagine a person help you become a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: better version of yourself, or help you believe in yourself,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: or help you just experience new things, or just introduce
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: you to new things. That was that you was able
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: to take and you know, create, create, keep creating for
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: your family, or it's just it's still positive. It's kind
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: of hard to say fuck you you going through this ship.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: I don't fuck like I gotta just fuck you. It's
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: hard you didn't I'm saying like, it's it's very hard
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: because it's like I don't want to kick somebody by
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: they down and I don't want to just say fuck
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: you you going through that ship.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: You gotta figure it out because I like you my friend.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I have a.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Relationship with you. I have a personal relationship with you,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: like I know you. It's like family, like we like
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: locked in. So it's like that's that's a hard situation.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: And it's just like I cannot just turn my back
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: on somebody like that easy. But that mean it was
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: never no love there or whatever I did for you,
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: it meant nothing. It's just that would be a fake
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: person to me.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: What did this whole situation teach you about who's really
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: in your corner? Cause I feel like I don't know
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: when I listen to the album and I hear you
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: an interview, sometimes I feel like people turning back on
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: you the way you wouldn't have done.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: So many people didn't go back to the liability question,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Like some people just gonna do what makes sense, you
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And some people just gonna ride
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: out with you, like we're gonna figure this out because
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: things do turn around, you know what I'm saying. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I think I'm just focused on people that stay down,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: on the people that left.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: It wasn't supposed to be here.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Did being tied to the Didny situation impact your branding anyway?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: It did? Really it did bad.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not talking about just social media now, in
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: real life it did.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Like what it just it was a lot like I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: lost steals, I lost money, I lost relationships, I lost
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: a life and you know, yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Wow, after everything you've experienced, right, like, I mean, we
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: can there's so many things you've experienced on a personal level,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: on a you know, business level. You know, how has
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: your relationship with trust changed?
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: I don't trust nobody, Damn, I'm not gonna lie like
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: trust is like the only person that I probably trust
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: is God and my kids, and I think that I
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: don't know what trust is built on, because you could
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: be knowing a person your whole like your kids to
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: turn on. So I don't when it comes to trust,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: I don't that that's I don't even trust God. I
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: got friends that I love and that I trust to
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a certain extent, but it ain't ever in the back
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of my mind like a person wouldn't do something to me, but.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Their particular situation that made that made you feel like.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: That, or just like you're seeing everything off old how
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: people will be with you and then when something get
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: just go like they ain't trying to stand by you,
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: they ain't trying to support you, they just keep the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: fuck on.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Do you expect you from other people? I do, and
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that's very disappointed when.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: You it is I expect me and every person that
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: I'm mean, I feel like I won't do that any
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and when they do.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: It, I just be like, whoopie do.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Now? You know? I love the city girls. So I
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: hate to see you and JT not together anymore. Well,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: what's the status of the relationship now?
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I think that when it comes to me and JT,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: I feel like it was a marriage right you you
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: meet somebody, y'all fall in love. Shit happening, y'all break up,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: y'all get a divorce. It could be ugly or it
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: could be good. It could be one that childges, get
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: a divorce and y'all move on. We want to be
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: finding from the public.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It was one of those situations where, like you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: we childhood friends, that love is always going to be there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: That's why even when the whole thing on the end
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: that happened, I'm like JT, like what we're doing here,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: we can never go It's never gonna go nowhere because
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: it's like I'm never we ain't.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We both ain't gonna go that far like we family.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: So you said you'll got the period at the same time.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like when you're.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: As a as a woman, as a girlfriend group, if
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: you be around somebody every day, I'll get your period
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: the same time around the same way. So it was
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: at one point we will be on tour, like but
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: you got a tough fun you got on like we're
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: real friends, we grew up together. That's gonna always be
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: a person that I got love for.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: When something like the City Girls and it's not just
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: business though, like that's a piece of your identity. So
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: what did you have to I guess what did you
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: grieve in letting that version of yourself go?
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: It was just like losing a friend, like a sister.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Did it feel like a death?
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: It it hurts. I won't say death because deaf person
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: is going to coming back.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: She's still here, so it's always room for us to
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: have a conversation, so I ain't gonna say death, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: it hurts.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It's like getting your heart broke for the first time.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: What made you to actually grow apart? Like everybody thought
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it was Karisha. She got the podcast, now she's doing
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the reality show, she's getting her Beyonce on. Yeah, people thought,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: well JT takes music more seriously and Karsha does. What
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: was it now?
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: I think it was just more of she felt like
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: you know, JT into like fashion, it's so many different
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: other things. She got her own landes. She and I
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: think just like we are in just two different lanes,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: like our brands. It's just two different brands and it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: like two different people trying to be one that she's
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: never gonna work. And I think it was more of
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: like she just had a lane that she wanted to
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: go in and it just wasn't the same type of
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: time I was on. So it was just more of
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: like I'm kind of ready to do my own thing,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Like you know, I don't really want to do this
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: shitting on my own getting older because she's older than me.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: So it was more of like I'm just ready to go.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I've heard you say JT hasn't been the same since
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: the fad case. What case you talking about?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: When she went to prison?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Got you? You think jail changed her?
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think jail shape people. I think when you
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: go to jail, if you you know, you sober in there.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Not saying that she does yours. Someone's just saying like people,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: when you go in there, that's like time out, Like
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: you have no time. You have nothing to do but
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: to sit and think and reflect. And it can like
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: it could fuck you up or it can help you grow,
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: but it mentally do something to you because it's like
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: you got time away from everybody.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You just sit and reflect. And I think that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Befo JT went in me and her was like this,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: like it was so like this, And when she came home,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: I just felt a shift, But it wasn't bad, like
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: I didn't take heat to it because my mom been
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: in person, so I know what it's like to be
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: in chill and come home. They see the world differently
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: because they just win the time out. So I feel
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: like that was my experience.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Do you ever feel I don't know. I don't know
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: if I call it jealousy, but you know she had
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: a man, and she spent more time with her man now,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: and you know you probably was used to y'all being
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: together all the time. Was there anything like that?
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Not when it comes to a man, because as whomen,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: we all want to be with our men. Like I don't.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm uncurious, so I'm very big on space and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: I like to be alone a lot. So I think
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: it was me, like I I disconnect a lot of times,
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: and it could come off us and like I'm disconnected,
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: But sometimes I got to just go and just you
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: by myself.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Have y'all talked about any of this we have?
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: We I think we need a therapist. We need somebody
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: to come and hear both sides. When we try to
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: like express ourselves, it's like what you did this to me,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: but you did this to me. We just point to
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: think at each other it's like you made me feel
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: this way. When you made me feel this way, I
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: ain't doing nothing to you and you ain't. It's like
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: we're not getting nowhere. So we got to literally have
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: someone come in and say, look, she feel like this
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and you feel like this, and like, what's the solution.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: You clearly love JT. Like that's what I'm saying, So
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: why not go get a counselor therapists and y'all just
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: go have a couple of sessions with each other and
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: put everything on the table and see if you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: y'all can resolve the relationship.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Because I think we both need time to do our
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: own things. I think that when JT was one thing,
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I never wanted to make it about me, Like I
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: didn't want to, Oh you see, I'm doing my thing.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Now you trying to come back Now Now you're trying
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: to make things And I don't want it to feel
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: like that when I'm doing my things.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: So I think she did her thing, I'm doing my thing.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Now. Let us both grow, you know, as individuals, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I think that time will come, and I also think
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: we both got to be ready. It can't just be
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: like when I feel like I'm ready, or when she
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: feel like she ready, Like we both got to be
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: in this space where we can sit down as adults
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: and say, Okay, we're in a better space now, and
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I think we need this.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Time the part.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: But the City Girls aren't done. It's just like a
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: season of separation.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: Kind Yeah, I wouldn't never just off the City Girls.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: We built this together, you know, like we did a
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: lot together. Did she just say that it never happened
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: on just at like it's she's dead, you know, like
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: it's it's forever going to be the City Girls. Like
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: we both come from the fucking hood. We gotta that's
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: an accomplishment for both of us.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: So I look at it like that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: You know, people on the internet were saying that it
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: was a lover's quarrel, like y'all be scissoring or something like.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I ain't never seen her that. Yeah, I know that's
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: what they do on the innything that don't people make
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: up ship and then start believe it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: If the City Girls will never make music again, what
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: would you want that legacy to be? Just the City Girls?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: You and j I wanted to be two young girls.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: They got that they grew up together. They came in,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: they made history and it was it was built off
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: of SS thehood.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've had to process a lot of loss publicly
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and privately, like you got relationships changing, people you love
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: no longer hear, how do you even beginning to separate
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: your personal grief from what the world is consuming as entertainment.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: And that's the part I feel like they don't understand,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Like for them, it's just like they don't give me
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: that grace. And I think it's hard going it's hard
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: going through everything publicly with the world just being a
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: weird and indurate place. And I think that I have
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: already got a chance to actually sit and go through
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: my grievous actions because it's like I always had to work,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: or I always got to defend myself, or it's just
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: in front of the world. So I just worked through
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the bullsheet, like I haven't ready had a sign of
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: really seeing dodges everything that's happened to me.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But you know, they say staying busy as a response
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to trauma, But you're trying to run from what you
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: probably actually actually should be sitting down and dealing with.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So why I need to deal with it?
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: He said? What?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Why do I need to deal with it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, because I always feel like if you don't
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: deal with your trauma, your trauma or trauma ultimately deal
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: with you. Like, you know, the example I like to use,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: remember when Willi Smith was at the Oscars. That's the
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: biggest night of his life. Right He's about to get Croyn,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: he about to get best Actor, and like everything just
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: you know, came out at once. He lashed out, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: he lashed out in that moment. That's why I still
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: deal with your trauma or your trauma ultimately deal with you.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You can't run from it forever.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Kresha, I got to deal with it when when God
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: calls me, showed me I don't want to deal with
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it right now. I got too much to focus on.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I think that it just puts you on a depression
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: that it's hard to pull yourself out of. And it's
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: just like I don't want to deal with it right now.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Like right now, I got I got kids, the raising,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: I got I got things that I need to do.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be dealing which.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Trauma, you know, speaking of your kids. You know, like
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: that's the last question I'll talk about with grief. But
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: you know, you didn't lose the father of your child,
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: and that's a different kind of grief because it's not
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: just yours, it's your child's as well. How has that
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: changed the way you show up as a woman and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: as a mother.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's so hard as a woman losing
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: like a male figure because it's like, I always check
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: on my son, are you okay?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: You know, mentally, how are you? And I feel like
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: he always like I'm okay.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: But I feel like even if he's not, he went
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and put it on me because I think, you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: he's a young man that's growing up. He probably don't
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: even want to put that on me. So like for me,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: it's just it's hard because i'd be like, damn, I'm
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: raising my son. He's twelve nine, about to be a teen,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: so I know he's about to get it's a teenager thing.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Who's that like him?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: And his dad was like this, So who's that real
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: figure in his life that's gonna replace his dad?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: It's not nobody, and it's me.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: So I feel like I put a lot of pressure
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: on myself and I try to apply myself as much
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: as I can and really, you know, try to make
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: sure that he knows, like, hey, I'm here for you.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: You can.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: You can come to me about anything. I'm fuck what
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: it is you gonna figure it out together?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Is? Does he talk to you about everything? No? Really,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: he's shy.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: He's very shy, Like he's really really really shy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: He got my little sister, which is his I feel
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: good about that because that's my sister that he's taught.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: So do you tell him that he has to have
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars A girls knockna wan dam No.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I don't even that, damn okay at all? Like I
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: literally hate when he get on the in netacy and
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: say stuff like that. But I didn't stop.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Oh man, people don't think about that. They don't think
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: about when you got kids old enough to be online
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and see what people are saying about their mom or
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: what their mom is saying about other people. Yeah, you've
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: had to explain that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Though. My son is so smart. He's like a he's
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: smart and he loves That's something I love about my son.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: He's into school, Like if I go out, he's like, Mamma,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: you know, I gotta go to school, maro, Like I'm
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: getting school borrow.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: He be on like school tomorrow. I got a test.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: He's very loved school, so he he know that, like
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: if that's not something I had to explain to him.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: He know that. Do you talk to him about your music?
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I did play my Apple for him cause they tell
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: what you heard tales. I skipped that song. I ain't
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: gonnaize okay song, but I did play for him because
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: as a kid, I just wanted to know what he thinks,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: and he really taught me. He liked the newsplash, he
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: loved take me to Shanell. He likes still eat You.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: They may feel good, so I want to. I mean
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: him and J still talk.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah she maybe I go through it so like I
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: randomly get his song when see her phone and they
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: be I love you, like they don't.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: They got their own relationship. I actually love that.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like love that, and I mean, I'm sure that
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: makes you feel good too, unless you know, like, okay,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: there's still a bomb here.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah okay, Yeah, he loved hers, she loved him.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Why don't you do it? We were talking about this
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: before the interview started. Why don't you do more records?
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Like f them kids? And what's up in Dead County
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: because to me, that's your lane, because I love that
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: old Miami basedine. I was born in nineteen hundred and
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: seventy eight, so I grew up on it. That's my era.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: The Uncle Lou Gull like, why don't you do more
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: of that? Like that sound need to come back I am.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: I think that I just had to keep back in
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: my groove, you know, and I had to get back
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: in my sound. I think as artists, the fans that
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: stare you away from what's your sound, because then they
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: go to tell you, like if I put out fucking
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: them kids, someone say, you ain't growing you still talking
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: out fucking them kids, and da da da dah. So
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: it put artists in a place where you get in
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: your head and you feel like you need to make
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: better records, and then you start making shit. They don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: even resonate with your fans and they ain't even you,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: and now you just sound like you trying. She So
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I think that that was a phase I went through too,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: and now on back in my bag, on backing my pop,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: and I know that those songs feel good to me,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: like those records that I love, and I feel like
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: that's my best self.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: So A'm gonna make more records like that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: So all these records, you like when you hear records
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: like take take take me to Chanelle and you know caretails,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: is that really where you're at right now?
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It's always take me to Shanel.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Lord have mercy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: You see what I got on right now?
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Lord have mercy. I want to ask you
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: something about grief again. Do you feel like grief has
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: hardened you or or softened you or made you more
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: intentional about who and what you pour into.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I think all of the grief is so it's I
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: think grief coming like different stages, and I think that
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: when it comes to grief, I think it made me
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: shrunker because I always feel like I gotta be so strong,
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: Like whenever I'm like how you I be, I don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: feel bad, but I'll be like, come on, like let's
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: get out of this, like you gotta keep growing. So
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I feel like we made me stronking. It made me
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: feel like I gotta keep going, like I can't, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: can't live in this.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: I feel like because you had to you know raised,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I guess your brothers and sisters, when your mom was
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: in prison, and just even growing up in the environment
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: you grew up in. Like I almost feel like, you know,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: you didn't maybe get the childhood you wanted.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Then I was grown. I had to be a woman.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I was cooking, going to the grocery store down there,
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: section eight feeling not applications. So I appreciate it because
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: I know how to do a lot, Like I know
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: how to do applications. I know how to feel like
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: stuff for credit. I know how to apply for things.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: So it's like a blessing in acurriace, because I do
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: wish I did have a childhood like at one point,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: but I did have to be an adult fast, Like
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I had to raise kids, like I had to get
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: them ready for school iron uniforms. At one point I
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: started boosting because I had to. My mama wasn't there,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: you know, like these are kids, how they gonna get uniforms?
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Don't got no money, don't got no job. So I
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: had to go and get them closed.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: You know, that's why you want that man with one
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: hundred million dollars because you want to feel, You want
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: to be taken care of. You want to just kick
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: your feet up for a safe I do you want
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: somebody to treat you the way you've always treated people. Yes,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: got you? Yes got you? What's so much happening around you? Right?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: What boundaries have you had to create the protect your
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: piece that you didn't have before.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I don't feel bad about my feelings no more like
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I can feel away and then not be like I
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: won't say that to that person because I want them
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: to take it. It's like, if this is how I feel,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: this is how I feel, and you gotta respect hot
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: feel like it's literally seeing how I feel.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Like, No, it's no, I don't want to do this.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do this. I don't have to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: explain myself.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: I don't care how it makes you feel because I'm
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: on the type of person I always put myself on
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: the other side.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: How does this make this person feel? How I'm a looked?
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I don't do that at the moment. I don't care.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I love uh go back to the home. I love
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: the Dave County record. What did that that recommend to you?
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Because you got your girl treating on there? You always
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: said in the inspiration here trickers on there, Rick Ross, like,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: why did you select those three individuals to do that record?
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That's stay County trick trainer and Rocks. When you think
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: of Day County.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: They did so much and you know, it's not a
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: lot of artists that come from Miami, and they did
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: so much. And it's like when I listen to the
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: radio station because I do that and like I love
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: hearing like DJ Nasty, they pay a lot of Miami
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: mixes and they are mixed me in. And I was like,
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: I want to have that same feeling now in my generation.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Like when you go listen to the radio, you still
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: hear trip training, but me and it sound new, you know,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: like it's in Miami, the high schools, the band, it's
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: real big and I just can hear them doing that,
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: like when they doing the games and things like that.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: That's what it's fired us.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: What does training mean to you? And then what does
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: she taught you?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Trainer?
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: She always just trucking, knowledging, Like when I first got
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: into this game, she called me, listen, you paid face clean,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: know what you doing, know the business, say what you
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: won't like it's what you want, like don't let don't
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: let nobody take advantage of you and needs being gonna
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: come to pick the right one. And if you and
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: if you get in the relationship with them. Make sure
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: you come out in that relationship with something.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: Damn well you said that on please? Yeah? What about
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: what about professionally though this is a this is an artist.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: I mean she always just tell me like, look you
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: aspar you doing it. Don't let the body tell you.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: She you you know, like you show what you can do.
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: It's gonna always feel out they come with this and
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: she was like, you got it, Like, just believe in yourself.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: It ain't nothing gonna stop you.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like you've been judged fairly?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: No?
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I feel like I've been judged. I feel like I
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: get judged for every single thing that I do, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: it's just like I don't.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I've been trying to go down the timeline to figure
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: out when did all this happen and when did this
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: shift or like what's the problem.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I think it was Carreisia please only because it was
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: such a good podcast. But you would get so comfortable
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: on that that you would talk and you would say
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: things and you would give them ammore like you when
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: you talked about getting peed.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: On, I made that up?
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: Ain't no say you made that up?
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Now, Okay, let's talk about it. So I didn't even
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: make that card. I didn't even know what a golden
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: shadow was. So I came up with the car as
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: wis on and when I got to the car, like,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: what the fuck is it going to the shower it is?
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: She's like, we ain't never I'm like, bitch now. So
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: when we was doing a podcast, I just did it
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: because I was from in my gang, so I'm thinking
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: that this is gonna be something that just like go
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: for our but I ain't know. It was like a
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: whole thing of like me actually being peete on and
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: that's something I'm just like, damn, like I should have
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: really thought about that one.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't think it was like a yeah.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And you was thinking somebody named Pendd.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Yourself. I know it was.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: That was one thing that was like it was good
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: and bad because y'all they that was like the most
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: talked about thing ever. And that was one month that
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: myself went skyrocket but all good one, all money and
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: good one. And that's one thing I was just like, damn,
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: I should have thought about that. And I always go
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: back to it because I remember calling Britney was like, no,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: bring me. She was like even when it come out,
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: you didn't even know what to go to the show was.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I'm like, it's out that these people ain't going to
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: believe me. That's just something that I gotta bite that bully.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Cut it down the hill.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: So you never been peed on?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Damn no, if I would have been peed on, I literally,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I mean I told.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Y'all you gotta tell us everything. I've learned that in
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: life too. You think you got to share so much
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: because we be in front of these cameras, in front
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: of the microphone, Well be over.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: But I mean, if I talk about how I said,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: like I talk about it.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I say, is that when you ever had to explain
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: to your to your son?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Nah, we never talked about it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: It's it's that's That's one thing that's uncomfortable for me
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: because I always be like them.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I do want because I'll.
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: Be thinking about it, and I damn like, I wonder
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: if he I know, he like he got to get
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: into arguments that shit in school.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It's gonna come eventually helped me not. But I'm like, damn,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: why I did that to myself and my kids?
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: How do you plan to explain like those complicated adult
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: situations to your child while still trying to like preserve
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: his sense of innocence.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I gotta just tell him what it is, talk to
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: him like a man.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Just literally say, look, I made some mistakes, and I
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: think that you're gonna make some, you know, and you
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: gotta be mindful of things like this.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: You gotta learn from me.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: It's something that I learned, something I'm not I'm not
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: proud of, and I regret, But don't make the same mistake.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: What do you think you've done wrong?
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Like that?
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: That's just one?
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I hate that, Like I literally be like,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: why the fuck I did it? Like you know, marketing marketing?
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: You say shit, I'm like, but that was like a
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: wrong card. But again I never been peed on, so
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't think that that was.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Just like a a thing.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: What does accountability look like for you, Crrecia, not not
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: even just publicly, but when you're sitting there on in
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: your house just privately, Like, what does accountability look like
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: for you? When you look at me? Like? What did
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I do wrong? What did I do that I the
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: cause this to happen?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: I say, like the way that I present myself, the
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: way that I carry myself, the things that I think
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: it's fun, you know, like the way I have fun?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Is splaying out the way that you have fun?
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: So I think that's polishing up a little bit, tonging
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: some things down or not sharing everything, like everything like
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: if I'm outside I'm having a good time, I'm shook
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: my heads. Maybe I ain't got to post it, you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: just things like that. I think it's kind of like
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: what I put out there.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: When why are you figure me and you don't have
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the same type of fun? What do you like to
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: do that I probably wouldn't like to do?
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Probably like hang out at like five o'clock in the morning.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Oh no, no, yeah, lean bying the club? We trapped,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: then get on the boat.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Nah. Yeah, I used to like to you five though,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: yeah five fire spot. Do you feel like you're finally
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: in controller a narrative?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I think that now get a chance to really tell
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: my story, you know, and nobody control your narrative. But
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: you you the one that's putting out whatever whatever it is.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: You the one that's feeding whatever it is that you're feeding.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, what.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Scares you more? Starting over solo or being misunderstood forever?
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Being misunderstood forever Because I think that people that really
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: know me, that really like know who I am as
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: a person. I'm nothing like what's out there, nothing like
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: absolutely not And I hate that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I hate that it's out there. It's like a thing.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, what, like what the fuck? What
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the fuck it means it? I could fix it?
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Well, you know that the time say time can can
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: fix all right? Yeah, I remember when you said your
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: music was getting shoved. Was it getting shoved by QC?
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: I think at one period of time, I think that
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: was just turned off with us as a group, Like
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: they just felt like we was letting the group go.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Did they investment? You know how? That ship they was
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: just overary.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So when we started branching off in our on era,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: I think that when it came to me, I feel
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: like I always get get I feel like I just
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: when it come to music, I get it hard. And
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: I think that I was presenting the music some of
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: like the songs that I got out, it was just like, no,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: don't grow up there, No, we're talking about the same shit.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, but we all saying the same ship.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like this is the music
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: that I made.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: When you said we all saying the same shit, like
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: you mean, like the guys were making the I feel
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: like a music.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: All female all female rappers. Now that's like the music,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: the topic, the subject, it's all the same. Were just
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: saying it in different ways.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: I love I like, you know what QC did for
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: a lot of the artists, but I do feel like, man,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: they dropped the ball on a couple of y'all projects
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: in a way.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it was y'all or I know
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: that one album came out during the pandemic that what
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: was that? I can't remember what iut that was? That
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: was Niggas Don't Deserve Them?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: That was the one that that was.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Girl called a City
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: or lock.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: It was City ow Lote, yeah, going with Doja Cat
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: was on there. Yeah, I feel like that one should
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: have really really went. But it was a pandemic, Like
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: why even put out an album during that time? Like
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: did they make you better?
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: But people couldn't do nothing to be at home and
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: listen to music, Like everybody was in the house. Remember
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: they had their quarantine wives and stuff like that. So
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I think that it was just a time where people
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: it was just in the house listening to music.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: But I think that we wanted, like, for instance, we
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: wanted to have Calculator as a single. They didn't.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: And then the song and then once it got leap,
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: then they ended up wanting like this is the song.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: We was like, we was being because we wanted calculated
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: They went with Pinyota. We'll see making do that that song.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: We was like, we won't Calculator. They want a Piyada,
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: so they went Piyada. Calculator ended up going after the fat.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: But then you know how to fans, they was like,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: oh god, y'all, I need a video after the fat,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: we ain't on it no more. And then it was
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: more like pointing fingers.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: And then you know, between that situation and your new situation.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I think I'm in control now. I think that you know,
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I made my own decisions, and I think that it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: just support me.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: What's the lesson in all this for you and the
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: people watching.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: The lesson and all?
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: What just this this, this this existence that Karsha has
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: gone through, all of these things that we've seen publicly
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: and privately. When you sit here in this very moment
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: right here looking at me, what do you think the
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: lesson has been?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Life is a journey and it's gonna be different places
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: to like and I feel like I am perfectly fallt
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: I have flost me like I'm gonna I'm going I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: a human, So'm gonna make mistakes, I'm gonna grow, I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: a crimea go through things. But you know, y'all have
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: watched me from when I first started to now, and
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: it's a journey and it's an open journey. And I
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: want y'all to come on this journey journey with me,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: and we'll look back and say I'm so proud of you,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Like you really went through all this shit. You you
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: set back, you took accountability, you you cleaned up, you
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: realized what was wrong, and you came far.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Like that's what I want to put out there.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: What does success look like for you in regards to
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: this album?
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Success that like Feeldboard, Grammy touring and just really showing
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: people like, Okay, we we we under estimated her being
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: an underdog coming.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Out on top.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: No, Kresha, nice to meet you again.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you meeting a whole new one like this
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: is I feel that way? Yeah?
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Why, I've been around you a bunch of times, but
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm needing a whole new individual because.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: You know why, I think that, Like I was, I
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: was always whenever we come and we do these these runs,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: it's promoted something, it's selling something. So I was always
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: trying to sell something like I gotta you know, I'm
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: more of like I don't gotta do all that. Now
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: it's like less, it's more just going. There's just just
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: you know, just have a conversation. You don't gotta go
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: and be extra and do this and do that like
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: the people gonna fuck with you.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: It's it's gonna I just want you to know. It's
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: gonna be a little uncomfortable. And the reason it's gonna
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: be a little uncomfortable because you really are standing along
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: like there's no JT, there's no Diddy.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: It's really just and I love and that's why I
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: love it because y'all saw me with JT, y'all saw
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: me with Diddy, and now y'all see me by myself,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm gonna show you all what I can do.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Christian than I appreciate you.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I love business is well.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Take so that you are a very person. It's due
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: they don't let ship lock.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: And I think that that's like, that's like earning your respect,
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Like you have to respect an honorable person, you understand.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Like that's why when I wanted to do this conversation,
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I gotta do what Sela make I can.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: They're gonna respect you the same way. I mean, I
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: think they already do. They just fuck with you. They
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: fuck with me online like they are. They fuck with
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: you because you're such a transparent person and you give
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: them energy. If you ignore them, they still fuck with you,
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: but not as much.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's good.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: It's good to fuck with them back sometimes.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I learned now, Like now I just like, man,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna lock out.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: There's really the way you do and tell that music
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: drop when you drop that out, and you're gonna get
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: there all night going through your Twitter.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I know, I've been searching fun all day.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: I am see what people's reactions are. I am that
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: that would drive me crazy.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know how it do it do it drives crazy?
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: It does, But I tell all of them I saw
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: a digital guy. But I've been telling Jess Lauren Ali
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: would stopped looking at the comments.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: It's hard because you want to see what people are
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: online saying about like if you drop something you really want.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: To look to see if they fuck with you.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: But then you go down there wrap a hole of
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: the negativity and then it'd be one thing that that
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: makes you feel like I defend myself, I need to
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: cool myself.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: And it's like, no, that ship just opened up a
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: door for it to keep going. And that's what I learned.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's real. I'm really training don't believing
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: that majority of that ship online is real. It's not
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: like even you know, we're laughing about the Jack Hollow aiut.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: But I think people are just doing it because it's funny.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. It's it's it's the humor for
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: the week, Like let's make all these memes and stuff, like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't personally care for the album, but
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: it ain't you know, it ain't. It ain't worthy of
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: all of that. But it's just funny. Yeah, Like, and
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: nobody's even talking about the music. It's just this joke.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: It's just the means, it's just the memes, the memes
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: of the joke. Yeah, so they gonna don't they gonna
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: always give them that. They're gonna always do that to artists. Like,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know any artist that that doesn't happen to now.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then I forgot the extra question I wanted to extra,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: come on, let's do it.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: We can do it now came.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, So a question I wanted to throw back at
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: you was you know, just turned into an episode of
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: Karasha Plata.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, possibly, Okay, I wanted to.
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: I really want to just you know, look about growing
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: up being some things that you had to doing.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: You are you are now? Do you believe that people change?
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Absolutely? I believe people change, people grow, people evolved. Like
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the first book my father ever gave me was the
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: autobiography of Malcolm X. And the reason I loved that
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: book so much is because it literally shows you the
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: evolution and transformation of a man like Malcolm X was
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: Malcolm Little. He was a pimp. He was you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: you know, selling selling drugs, number running all types of stuff.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: But then he went to prison, you know, got introduced
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: to the teachings of you know, the Honorabile Olijah Muhammad
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: and became a whole different individual. He became the Malcolm
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: X that we know now. That's that's another reason why
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I love, you know, the NI so much, because they
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: show you that transformation and growth is possible, but you
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: got to be intentional about that growth, like you know,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: it can't be performative, like you really really, you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: got to do the work. So yes, I absolutely believe
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: in growth and evolution.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: And that's another thing too, when you say he went
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: to prison. I think that when people go to prison,
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: it's about what they do with their time in prison.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: Because you could go to prison and you can go
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: to school. I got so many programs you can go
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: to school, you can learn, and that's when people come
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: out and they do a book and they talk about
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: they experience and experiences in prison. And I think that
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like what you do with your time
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: in prison. And I think like my mom, she felt
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: so bad because she was like I left my kids
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: out there that she didn't really go in there and grow,
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: like she came home or resent me, like oh my god,
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: I'm like, girl, it's fine, it's okay, we're good. You
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: got good kids. Like look at me, I ain't out
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: here killing nobody doing it wrong, Like it's okay. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: that's something that I learned to like put pat myself
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: on the back. It's like it's hard out here, and
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: as long as you show up and you sacrifice for
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: your kids, like it's okay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: You know the thing about growth, right, it's so funny
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: in this era because especially with social media, they won't
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: allow you to grow. You could be a whole different person,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: evolved on a whole different level. But they'll be, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: talking to you about something you did five years ago,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: ten years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago, and
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: you're like, damn, I ain't even own that no more.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: But they'll constantly remind you of who you were. So
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: we got to do such a great job. We got
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: to do a great job of protecting our piece right
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: and not letting them tell us who we are.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, And I think that's the problem
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: with social media, Like what you were saying, We read
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: so much online about ourselves that that's what we feed
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: in our mind and it just become a thing of
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: like you start like, look I'm seeing this coming fifteen
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: times twenty times, Like you start this shit start like
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: digesting in your mind.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: It's like that's why you can't be on it. As
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: I was telling you, like when you're our come out,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: just give yourself at least. I know it's gonna be hard,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: but give yourself at least the weekend, like that, I'm
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: driving on a Friday, don't don't check the comments. Tell Monday, Like,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: just give yourself forty eight hours just to experience the
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: joy of putting out a solo album. Yeah, just Bele's
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: let it ride for a minute.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna do that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna do it. I don't believe.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I don't believe it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I'm growing, sela mane growing.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: You said something earlier when you were talking about you know, Diddy,
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: that I you know, I thought about, but I never
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: heard anybody speak about like when you know somebody later
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: in life, he probably it is a whole different person,
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: probably have had, you know, grown and evolved and learned
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: from you know, those mistakes. But we wouldn't know that, yeah,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and not honestly. And I think that people think
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: that like, oh, you're trying to protect something. It's like no, literally,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: like when we talked about like Unclesia please like church,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: she says, like, yo, that's to church.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: And he was just so.
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: Like trying to to is still so much that I
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: think that he probably experienced before. And that's why I'm like, Okay,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: this is a man that has changed because of all
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: the shit that he probably previously went through.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Oh man, I saw him. We was at Bishop td
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Jake's was at the Potter's House on Sunday and he
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: was there and I saw him balling, like like falling,
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: like throwing himself on the altar.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: This was it's like many two years ago. I think. No,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I couldn't have been too many three years ago. I
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: don't matter. Maybe two three years ago, and I just
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: remember thinking to myself, like, boy, he doesnet been through it?
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Like he going through something right now?
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because he always like you kids need to go
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: to church on Sunday. You need to turn some ten
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Jake students do there?
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Like okay, Yeah. Then I got more into it because
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I always had a relationship with God, like more into church.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Did he help did he help you grow spiritually?
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: He always send me service and stuff like that, like
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: do this before you was old pretty before and do
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: this and you always learned topic too.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: What is a day like for Koreasia? Because I know
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I've seen you wake up taking your kids to school.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: You'll be listening to the radio, Like, what is a
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: regular day like for you in Miami?
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Wake up, take my case of school, go home, check
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: my emails, call my management. Whatever it is that I'm
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: feeling like I got to express myself and I started
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: working on new things I think, and I'm like constantly
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: trying to create and like come up with new ideas
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: and you know, explore new things because I'm like, what's
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: like for me outside of music? And that's been an entrepreneur,
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: so it's always like trying to come up with a
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: new products, So like what can I create that's different
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: or like what people doing is that I can't really
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: grab their attention and make this another moment.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Cool unless you want to do more Coreasia. Please, I'm
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: here for Karashia. Please we bring a Kreasia please back.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Goddamn it, we gonna bring please.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: But I'm glad that, like I had a break from
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: season one to two because now I got so many
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: ideas of how I want to do season three, Season
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: three different, Like now like I want this to be different.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: I want to approach it like this, I want to
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: do it this way. I don't want to do it
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: this way.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: So it just gave me a moment to really sit
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: and like look at it and see, like what was
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: different about season one? What was different about season three?
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: How can I I mean two, how can I grow
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: season three?
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: What can I do to make the fans wanted the
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: first the first time they saw it because season one,
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: like I don't, I don't know if y'all was one
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: of the ones that was hanging up yep, y'all said,
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: did he brought my he did award? I earned that
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: you had four episodes, but you want to know, okay,
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: you I have four episodes and what what was episode?
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: The four Kevin Gates it was Kevin Gates. Diddy was
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: the second.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: No, Diddy was the Kevin Gates and did I don't
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: know how it went, but the first episodes was powerful episode.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: And then it was tied between Drink Champs and Lady Krisia.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Police was new.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: It was a new vibe and new experience. I had
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: hooka on that I had people getting wide open. We
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: had the same and were getting to the smoke. The
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: trailer was different.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: Cocaine. You had no cocaine, no, but.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: We had hook and dap vibes.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: So I felt like it was something different, something that's
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: always different and new people gonna be on it. You know,
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: people own stuff that's trendy or that's new. I think
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: it was it was it was, it was new, and
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: it was also me like Karsia interview or somebody.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: So how would how would you make it different in
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: the season there all four.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: I wanted to be I want to have like I
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: feel like I do have real conversations, but I want
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: an interview on a different level, like a real deep level,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Like I want to go.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: Deeper, like we were talking to people like with s J. Roberts. Yeah,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I would love to see that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I let talk to Obama.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: I would love to see that.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I already want to talk to Obama. He cool, he
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: the president.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Michelle Lebarrock president. You would be good on the show.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: They should. They should try to get you on Michelle's
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: podcast for your album.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: They should.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: She won't make pride of she gonna bring something out
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: of you.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love to sit down with the
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: you know the first stating.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: That's the thing I do be hating about just when
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: they look at certain people, especially us from the South,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: they think we're slow for some reason. Yeah, we're not realizing,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Like do you understand where we come from and the
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: things that we learned early, like we get instilled with
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: like common sense and suffering values that you know, put
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: us in a position to where we can prosper anywhere
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: in the world. Yeah, because we don't. We keep things
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: simple for the most part.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: And I also and I like, as a mother, I
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: be looking at it because I'd be like, dangn what
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: can I do differently?
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Or how am I raising my kids differently on how
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: I was raised.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Because we still at in Miami, So even though we're
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  Speaker 4: not in the hood, the environment is still the same,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like the the kids that they going to
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  Speaker 4: school with and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I think about that a lot too.
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  Speaker 3: I just want you to give yourself grace, man, I
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  Speaker 3: need you're doing You're doing good. Like number one, you
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  Speaker 3: alive right and you know your child is doing well.
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  Speaker 3: You're not in jail, like you you've beaten the odds already. Like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: think about where you come from when you say you
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  Speaker 3: shut to shout the video for h News News slash
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  Speaker 3: back in your hood, look at that environment and be like, yo,
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: I came up out of this. I'm the roles that
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  Speaker 3: grew from this concrete. So you'll continue to give yourself
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  Speaker 3: grace because you don't know what God got playing for you.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: That's why when you know people will laugh and be like, oh,
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: she said she gonna be the next black Oprah, Like
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  Speaker 3: you know, you laugh because Oprah already black. But I
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: don't know you really might end up being that. Who
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: am I to have said? You're not gonna end up
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  Speaker 3: being that?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, anything is possible yourself, that's right. A lot of
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: people don't believe in themselves. That's slept out. I don't
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  Speaker 4: got stept out ever, you never felt that. I mean,
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: I do it at times, but I got to kick
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  Speaker 4: out of past, like, yes you can, because you gotta
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: be like delusion a little bit to get where you
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: want to go.
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  Speaker 3: When the last time he said you can't do something
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: and then you snapped out of it, hm hmm.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: Probably like today, I was like, it's so hard for
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: me to stay consistent workout. I can't do it because
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: I'll work out for money. It's hard for me to
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: eat clean. I said you could do that, You could
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: do that, you gotta try.
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  Speaker 3: Line shit, it is hard to eat clean when you
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: from Miami. You got the licking right there.
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  Speaker 2: I know that I'm doing these shows every night, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: so who puts the drinks?
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  Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, But I could do it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: You got Tricks restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I love Little fris.
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  Speaker 3: No Tricky booty. Tricky is ahead of you. Need a
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: booty game. You feel about you shaming that I should
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: have Trick. I just Trick. Feel about Trick.
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  Speaker 2: Don't care what nobody gotta say.
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  Speaker 4: Like he is. He is the basic eating booty game.
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  Speaker 4: He got the shirts, the merchant, all that. You don't
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: care what's my thoughts. I feel he's staying on you
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  Speaker 4: and salute the trick.
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  Speaker 3: That's good. Yeah, yeah, yes, indeed. M