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Best of Chuck in the Morning 9/1 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Something completely different. This is Chuck in the Morning. Why,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go. Hey, great morning to you. Welcome in to
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  Speaker 1: the radio show here on a Tuesday. Ashley Ryan is here.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Chuck Powell. Great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 1: And we are going to take you till 10 o'clock today.
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  Speaker 1: We have a lot to discuss, including college football. Big
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  Speaker 1: week for college football as we get you ready for
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  Speaker 1: the Apple Cup. A lot more stories coming out of
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks camp yesterday with the practice squad being finalized and
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  Speaker 1: so much more on that front. A couple players left
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  Speaker 1: the organization. So we'll get into that during the course
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  Speaker 1: of our show together. And, of course, crap. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of crap to talk about. Just absolute miles
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  Speaker 1: and miles of muck.
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  Speaker 2: You mean like traffic?
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  Speaker 1: No, not traffic. More like a river of poo, like
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  Speaker 1: what Andy Dufresne swam through to get out of Shawshank Redemption.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we will have to swim through today when
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Seattle Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Something like farming, maybe, like if we're talking about manure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can call it that. Yeah. You can certainly
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  Speaker 1: call it that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's not exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Not the same.
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  Speaker 1: The same, but certainly.
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be more fun to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly that's piled up to the knees.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say that. Yeah. So by the look of your face,
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  Speaker 1: you're not really excited about this.
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  Speaker 2: No, that one, that hurt last night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, geez.
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  Speaker 2: That hurt my heart. That one, you know, it was
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  Speaker 2: a tough one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I heard he didn't use it last night. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he didn't. I could not watch the post game,
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  Speaker 1: but somebody got a message to him to make sure
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  Speaker 1: he didn't say that again because he didn't say it
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  Speaker 1: last night. That's good. At least that's what I understand.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I could not stomach watching the post game. Sorry, Brad.
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  Speaker 1: But I turned it off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just disappointing.
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  Speaker 1: At that point. Well, that's just the way it's been
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  Speaker 1: all season long and just inventing ways to lose. And
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  Speaker 1: last night, I mean, you put eight runs on the board.
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  Speaker 1: And there were some good pitching performances sprinkled in there.
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  Speaker 1: Dominguez has turned out to be pretty good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: other than that mop-up game that he played where he
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  Speaker 1: gave up a bunch of runs and people already thought
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  Speaker 1: he sucked, he's been pretty good since that time. Spire
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  Speaker 1: was good last night. Not sure he should have been
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  Speaker 1: taken out, but that's something that we'll get into. Munoz
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  Speaker 1: was good last night, even though it goes down as
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  Speaker 1: a blown save for him. And Randy Rosarino continues to
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  Speaker 1: just carry this team.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying everything.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about somebody that's answering
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  Speaker 1: the bell for you. It's Randy Rosarino, who's not exactly
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  Speaker 1: known as that guy, but man. They should take a
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  Speaker 1: page out of his book. They should all come back
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  Speaker 1: with braids today because that was remarkable, the performance that
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  Speaker 1: he put in yesterday. Every time he came to the plate,
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  Speaker 1: I guess he did make one out, but he had
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity to do damage, and he did damage. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was sensational last night once again.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and funny that you say everybody should come back
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  Speaker 6: with braids today, because I had a dream, actually, that
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  Speaker 6: they all dyed their hair blue last night. And they
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  Speaker 6: decided they couldn't undye it blue until they won a game.
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  Speaker 2: And they all had blue, long.
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  Speaker 6: Scraggly hair because they couldn't win a game.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, jeez.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, jeez.
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  Speaker 1: It was really sad.
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  Speaker 2: I woke up really sad.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, hitless smurf.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why the blue? Well, we were losing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, well, aren't you supposed to start something
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  Speaker 2: on a win streak? But they didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting that you're dreaming about. That's the most interesting
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  Speaker 1: part of this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, really.
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  Speaker 1: You're dreaming of ways.
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  Speaker 2: That's sad, too.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They got Smurf hair.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, there's Winless Smurf.
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  Speaker 2: That's basically.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Papa Smurf. Go see Winless Smurf. He's... Yeah. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: Papa Smurf. Rock Bottom Smurf is really feeling bad right now.
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  Speaker 1: You ought to go talk to him.
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  Speaker 2: Go help him out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Give him a pep talk, maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean....
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  Speaker 1: I know they want to win.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly Dan wants to win. I mean, his nervous energy
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  Speaker 1: to this point is just so uninspiring to see. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I wish the camera would stop panning to him. But
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  Speaker 1: just from the first inning, he's sitting there fidgeting. And
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  Speaker 1: all the way through the postgame show.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe him getting fired would put him out of his misery.
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  Speaker 1: Because he looks miserable. Um, and, and I thought he
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  Speaker 1: had another bad night last night, not to pile on,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought he had another bad night managing a
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  Speaker 1: baseball team last night. I had questions, but obviously the
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  Speaker 1: bigger problem and bigger issue is, I mean, this collection
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  Speaker 1: of team collection of players that just a year ago
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  Speaker 1: went to the American league championship series. Like have they
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  Speaker 1: forgotten how to win? Have they forgotten what it takes
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  Speaker 1: to win as a group? Because between the examples of,
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  Speaker 1: I don't give a crap that I'm seeing on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm not paying attention, those examples, and then
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  Speaker 1: the third example, I just want to be a hero.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a team player at all.
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  Speaker 1: The combination of those three things that have led this
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  Speaker 1: team to be 10 games under. 500, With 24 games
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  Speaker 1: to go. I mean, that's as bad of a result
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  Speaker 1: as I could have even fathomed at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the year. If you would have told me worst case
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  Speaker 1: scenario for this team, I wouldn't have come anywhere close
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  Speaker 1: to 10 games under. 500. But the way that they've
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  Speaker 1: played this season... They've played like a team. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like bad luck is costing them. They've played
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  Speaker 1: like a team that's 10 games below 500 with 24
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  Speaker 1: games to go. Worst offense in Major League Baseball. Starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching's been spotty. Relievers haven't been reliable from game to game.
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  Speaker 1: Defense has been sloppy all season long. Dan Wilson's not good.
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  Speaker 1: at managerial decisions. And then you want to throw on
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  Speaker 1: top of it when you still, when the baseball gods
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  Speaker 1: have given you a rope, just grab onto it and
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  Speaker 1: pull yourself to shore. We have selfish baseball. We have
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  Speaker 1: hero ball going on. We have lack of focus and
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  Speaker 1: just a general lack of team baseball. And it's really, really,
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  Speaker 1: it's beyond frustrating. I mean, I mean, we've had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of frustrating seasons of Mariner baseball since I moved
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  Speaker 1: to town. And I know you had a lot more
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  Speaker 1: before I got here.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But this one takes the cake.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because the expectations were so high. Because everybody in the sport,
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  Speaker 1: including the two teams you're going up against, know you're
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  Speaker 1: the team to beat. You have the best team. It's
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  Speaker 1: why the Astros and Rangers didn't do anything at the
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  Speaker 1: trading deadline. Because they acknowledged, no, we can't compete with
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  Speaker 1: that roster. The Rangers were thinking about selling. The Mariners
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  Speaker 1: are the only team in our division that bought at
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  Speaker 1: the trading deadline. And yet the Astros and Rangers keep,
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  Speaker 1: they're actually playing better baseball and the Mariners just keep
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  Speaker 1: getting worse. I mean, it is really hard to explain
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  Speaker 1: to people. And this is what I'm supposed to do
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  Speaker 1: for a living.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And I just think I do agree. It is the
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  Speaker 6: most disappointing season that I can remember. And I think
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  Speaker 6: we've said this a couple times and wondered, like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: is it just because we're coming off a frustrating series
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  Speaker 6: or a frustrating moment? But I don't ever remember being
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  Speaker 6: this bothered by the disappointment of a season. And I
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  Speaker 6: do think, yeah, it's because you came in with such
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  Speaker 6: high expectations and you almost got us all the way
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  Speaker 6: to the World Series. We were so close. And so
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  Speaker 6: to come back, it's like, okay, well, let's try this again.
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  Speaker 2: We can do this. And just the way in which.
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  Speaker 6: We have lost games this year, it's like, What do
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  Speaker 6: we have to do? What do we have to do
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  Speaker 6: to win?
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  Speaker 1: It's just.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do we have to sell our souls?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Do we have to dye our hair blue? I don't know. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I just.
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  Speaker 6: Watching last night, it's like, okay, here we go. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the comebacks, to tie it, to take the lead,
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  Speaker 6: all these things, you're like, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Led by Randy.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, this is what we've been looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: And then.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's always something or someone or collections of someones
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  Speaker 1: that undermine even those who are efforting toward trying to
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  Speaker 1: turn this around. And look, I know Julio didn't do
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  Speaker 1: anything to try and lose the game last night. But
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  Speaker 1: there's no excuse for you. Anybody at high school baseball
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  Speaker 1: knows that you can't let the runner get to second
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  Speaker 1: base in that situation. You play center field every single
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  Speaker 1: day as a grown-ass adult. When the ball was in
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  Speaker 1: the air, there probably weren't but 10 of fans watching
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  Speaker 1: that didn't know you can't die for.
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  Speaker 2: That you got to keep that in front of you.
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  Speaker 1: And what does julio do the guy that plays that
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  Speaker 1: position every day has a fielding coach in his ear
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  Speaker 1: every single day I mean, that's 162 games a year
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  Speaker 1: that they play. This isn't just dabbling in baseball. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: 162 games a year, plus spring training. Plus, he also
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  Speaker 1: played as a kid growing up. He knows you can't
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  Speaker 1: dive for that ball in that situation. You have to
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  Speaker 1: keep it in front of you because that's the tying run.
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  Speaker 1: And we have our closer in, really the last guy
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  Speaker 1: that we have. They still have Chapman. This is our
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  Speaker 1: last guy. This is our best chance to win this
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  Speaker 1: game right here. If it goes into extra innings, they
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  Speaker 1: have all the momentum and they have all the advantages.
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  Speaker 1: We got to win this one right here. And how
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  Speaker 1: someone who plays that position for a living, he's not
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  Speaker 1: a utility guy that bounces all over the place. He
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  Speaker 1: plays center field every night for 160 evenings per year
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  Speaker 1: plus spring training games. And he gets caught in between
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  Speaker 1: through his own admission and then afterwards said, my instincts
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  Speaker 1: said to go for it. My instincts said to go
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  Speaker 1: for it. Playing hero ball. I wanted to make the
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  Speaker 1: diving catch rather than the smart play there, which is
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  Speaker 1: you let it drop, you keep it in front of you,
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  Speaker 1: and trust that Andres Munoz, who was throwing flames last night...
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  Speaker 1: that he can get you out of this with a
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  Speaker 1: runner at first and nobody out because there's a really
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  Speaker 1: hard chance to get out of it with a runner
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  Speaker 1: at third and nobody's out. And clearly we didn't get
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  Speaker 1: it done.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you keep that runner at second and you win
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  Speaker 6: the game. It was just the fact that he was
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  Speaker 6: able to get to third. And then, yeah, what are
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  Speaker 6: you supposed to do? What is Mooney supposed to do
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  Speaker 6: in that situation?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he'd strike out the side, apparently. He got the
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  Speaker 1: next guy out.
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  Speaker 2: Thank goodness, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: But, I mean, I just kept sitting there saying, would
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  Speaker 6: have been a win if he stays at second.
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  Speaker 2: Would have been a win.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, at that point it was over. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't going to stay at second. He got to third.
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  Speaker 6: Well, he got to third on that play. But I'm
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  Speaker 6: saying if Julio plays the ball in front of him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, then he stays at first.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm saying even if he gets to second, you
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  Speaker 2: still win the game.
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably, yeah. But I'm saying that the play
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  Speaker 1: is to keep it in front of you and keep
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  Speaker 1: him at first base so he's not in scoring position.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody knows that. And yet we're going to die
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  Speaker 1: for it. And it wasn't the only situation. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Dom had a really good night last night. But bases loaded,
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  Speaker 1: nobody out. Everybody's just gotten on base in front of you.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to hit a grand slam. Like, keep
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  Speaker 1: the chain moving. And you strike out on three pitches.
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  Speaker 1: Now he came back and he redeemed himself later with
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  Speaker 1: two big hits. Got stranded at third himself. And that
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  Speaker 1: was some bad luck because Cal scorched one to the
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  Speaker 1: left side of the infield. And Trevor Story made a
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  Speaker 1: play on him despite the infield being in. But that
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  Speaker 1: sort of hero ball, that is not necessary in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep the chain moving. You want to hit the
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  Speaker 1: Grand Slam because you want to be a hero. I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to see that on three straight swings and
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  Speaker 1: then you go back to the dugout. So that was
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  Speaker 1: another example of it. I mean, let's be honest about
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  Speaker 1: something that's really uncomfortable. We all wanted Josh Naylor back.
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  Speaker 1: That dude doesn't care. That lack of hustle last night
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  Speaker 1: on that chopper to Trevor's story was embarrassing. His challenges
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  Speaker 1: don't improve. Like, you have to be one selfish person
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  Speaker 1: to not understand 140 games into.
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  Speaker 1: Abs challenge system that you're not any good at it
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  Speaker 1: and if you're going to challenge you better be right
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  Speaker 1: and he cost us both our challenges down the stretch
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  Speaker 1: which could have been a lot very helpful jp crawford
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  Speaker 1: always swinging for the fences i mean last night he
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  Speaker 1: laid down a bunt look what happened yeah it was
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  Speaker 1: great wasn't it great wasn't it great that he played
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  Speaker 1: within himself that he actually made a play that was
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  Speaker 1: team beneficial and he ended up getting a base hit
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  Speaker 1: out of it And then the next guy, Dom, tries
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  Speaker 1: to play hero ball. Play team ball. It's not team ball.
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  Speaker 1: And a lot of that reflects on the players, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it reflects on leadership. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why Dan can't get through to them, but my
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  Speaker 1: guess is it's because he's made his entire relationship with
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  Speaker 1: them to be their buddy. I want you to go
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  Speaker 1: home at the end of the day and say, man,
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  Speaker 1: that Dan's a nice guy. As opposed to demanding excellence
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  Speaker 1: from them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Come back tomorrow and be better. And we don't get that.
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  Speaker 1: And then let's talk about Dan. It shouldn't take a
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  Speaker 1: talk show host to understand. When George Kirby gives up
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  Speaker 1: a cheap hit, somebody go talk to him.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: It happens every single outing. Someone go talk to him
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  Speaker 1: because he hates it and he loses focus. And he
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  Speaker 1: blew the lead, a two-run lead because of that, last night.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody goes out. You wait until the damage is done.
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  Speaker 1: Cal ran out there two on and a 2-0 count
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  Speaker 1: on the batter as opposed to as soon as the
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  Speaker 1: bloop hit occurs, the cheap hit, the infield single. Are
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  Speaker 1: you not watching what everybody else is watching? Go talk
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  Speaker 1: to him immediately. I'm not saying Pete Woodworth because that's,
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  Speaker 1: those are valuable. If you do that twice in an inning,
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  Speaker 1: you got to take them out, but you got five
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  Speaker 1: visits to the mound. As soon as one happens, go
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  Speaker 1: out there. Why is Bizzardo being used when you know
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  Speaker 1: he has zero confidence right now? I just watched him
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  Speaker 1: wet down his leg against Toronto the other day. And
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  Speaker 1: now let's go to him. Let's go to him now. I,
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  Speaker 1: I trust Ferrer more. I get that the ERA this
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  Speaker 1: month suggests that he's not even been as good as Bazzardo,
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  Speaker 1: but the base runners allowed? Bazzardo has allowed 22 base
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  Speaker 1: runners in his last 12 innings. That's two an inning.
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  Speaker 1: Plus he gives up huge contact. He's in a funk,
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  Speaker 1: and yet we're going to use him. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: use him in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's like they think he'll just work his way out
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: And then Criswell. Criswell. hasn't pitched in months, wasn't pitching
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  Speaker 1: well when he went on the injury list. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a bad decision to load the bases. You have a
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  Speaker 1: runner at third, a great contact guy in Durbin, an
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  Speaker 1: impossible guy to double up in Duran. Let's, yeah, strategically,
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  Speaker 1: tie game, that's what you do. You load up the
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  Speaker 1: bases and you try to get the force out at home.
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  Speaker 1: But Criswell hasn't pitched in months, and you're throwing him
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: in the middle. In Boston, where he used to pitch,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: so there's going to be the adrenaline running high, hasn't
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: pitched in months at the major league level, and we're
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: going to throw him into shark-infested waters and then make
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: his job. We're not going to give you any margin
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: for error.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the problem, and he couldn't find the
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: strike zone.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: And he should not have even been used. You had Ferrer,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: who is more of a strikeout guy than Criswell. And
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: then the bunt in the top of the 10th. We
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: are the visiting team. Why are we bunting to start?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: If you're in the bottom of the 10th, bunt the
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: runner to third. It's a role as Chapman. Cole Young's
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: in a funk. We can't get a runner home from
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: third with less than two outs to save our asses.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And yet we are going to lay down a bunt
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: with Robles, who never gets to play, by the way.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And he's like the next to a Rose Arena, our
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: most clutch hitter. And so we're going to put him
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: in the game. We're going to have him bunt against
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the lefty. Get the runner to third for what? Aroldis
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Chapman versus Cole Young's a mismatch right now. Not to mention,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you don't play for one run in the top of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the 10th with a runner at second base. You play
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: for two, especially when you've exhausted all of your reliable relievers.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: You've got to play for a multiple-run inning. That's the strategy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: In the bottom of the 10th, if they don't score,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: lay down a bunt. Get him to third, and hopefully
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Cole Young puts the ball in play. That's bad managing.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: And it happened all night again to Dan Wilson. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: now add to it selfish play on the field, hero
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: ball on the field, stupid play on the field, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: there's your result. You score eight runs in a must-win game,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: which is what it felt like, and you still can't
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: walk away with a victory.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Sad.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: It was very sad.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what's on tap.
• 19:16
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• 19:31
  Speaker 1: 9-8, Red Sox over the Mariners in 10 innings last night.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Drops the Mariners to 64-74. They are six out with
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: 24 to play. Both the Rangers and the Astros won
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: their games last night, and so that might have been
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the day. As we roll into September, today is September. 1st.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: That might have taken them out last night. And I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: think that the reaction in the clubhouse afterwards spoke to that.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: They sounded like that was it. I mean, from Brian
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Wu's interview to another player screaming in the background to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson throwing up his hands. I mean, certainly they've
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: got enough time to come back from that, but they
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: have to have everything break their way. And that's not
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: feeling good right now.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like anything wants to break their way
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It's Apple Cup week, so we will start transitioning into
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: this big week. Yeah, it's strange that it's the opening
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: week of the season and that it's on a Sunday.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: But nonetheless, let the discussion begin. Let the breakdown begin.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And who better to join us today than Rick Neuheisel.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: He is back for another season. Our college football insider,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the former UW head coach who's been in a few
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: of these Apple Cups. He's taken a few dunks in
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: the river or the lake. um and so he'll join
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: us today at nine o'clock for the first time officially
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: this college football season we're actually going to go through
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: uh the fall lineup for you a little later on
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in the show so you can find out what to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: expect uh for this upcoming year it's mostly set uh
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and we're excited to announce everything we're going to be
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: doing this fall eight days from the seahawks opener greg
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: bell will join us today at 705 uh we'll talk
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about um Ross practice squad day yesterday as the Seahawks
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: pretty much set their practice squad. They lost a couple
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of guys that they wanted to get to their practice squad,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: including Jared Ivy, who went to the Atlanta Falcons yesterday.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But Trayvon Diggs and others returned to the Seahawks, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Diggs might have a role sooner than later in this secondary.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk to Greg about that at 7.05. Lionel
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Messi has retired from international basketball. play in soccer, which
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I assume means he'll continue his responsibilities with Miami in
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: the MLS, but he has retired from international play. A
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: sad day in the soccer world yesterday, and the U.S.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Open continues as we're still in the early rounds, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: we've already seen a couple of big upsets. All right,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: coming up next, Mariners morning after. We'll get into some
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of the details of last night's crazy loss to the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox. Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: 1-1.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: This ball into right field for a base hit. Young
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: is in to score. Here comes Wilson to the plate.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: He slides and he's safe. Randy Arrozarena. Man, a one-man
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: wrecking ball at Fenway Park tonight. He has tied the
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: game in the sixth inning.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Almost a second. Randy's best game of his career game
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, he played real well. I mean, it's hard.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I guess it didn't end like three home run game
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and a playoff game one time. I guess nothing will
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: ever top that. But certainly in a Mariner uniform, he's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: now twice in recent memory put the team on his
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: back for an entire game. And he did it again
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: last night. Unfortunately, it didn't result in a victory. The
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Mariners coughed up nine runs, combination of pitching and poor
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: defense and poor decisions. And in 10 innings, the Boston
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Red Sox may have delivered a death blow to the Mariners'
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: playoff chances last night. 9-8 the final score in 10
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: innings at Fenway Park. We do roll into the month
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: of September starting today. In case you have bills to
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: do or something.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Ugh.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, but, and so a month ago, 24 games to play,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: but the Mariners wake up this morning in Boston, six
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: games out of first place. Cause both the Rangers and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: the Astros won last night and there are 24 games
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to play. Brian Wu will get the start tonight for
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the Mariners. The Red Sox still undecided. My guess is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to find a left-hander that works down
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the street.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Although we didn't offensively didn't do, didn't fare poorly against
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: the lefty last night.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And Laz Montez is going to
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: make his debut tonight for the Mariners. I don't know
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: if that is pitching hand-dependent, whether or not he's going
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to be in the starting lineup, but he will be
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: called up, September call-up, for the Mariners. So you get
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a look at their number one power prospect, certainly, in
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the entire organization. So there is the Mariners news, no
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: matter how grim it is. We will get more into
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: that topic a little bit later on in the show.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It is Apple Cup week, and I should clarify something.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Because of the Big Ten schedule now being nine games,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that it's an odd number, some years you get to
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: host five and some years you get to host four
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: conference games. So with those other three games, the Huskies
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: need to host all of them. at least every other year.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Got it. Now, I guess you, so they can, they
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: have to play seven home games. So I guess you
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: could alternate. Well, then just alternate. That's the years. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: guess you could do that, but then that keeps the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Huskies from ever scheduling a home and home against a program,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a bigger program that could help their resume. They would never,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: ever be able to do that. So just from a
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: scheduling standpoint, We're probably looking at the last days of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the Apple Cup.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, it's just not the same as
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: it was either.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: So it does feel like, as I said, something that
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: we're kind of forcing to try to keep alive. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: I wish it were different.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel will join us today at 9 o'clock. We
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: are eight days away from the Seahawks opener. That's right.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Next Wednesday, the defense of their Super Bowl title begins
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: at Lumen Field. Of course, we'll have a full broadcasting day.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: That does not include us in the mornings. Like people
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: don't want an omelet. 10 hours before the kickoff. That's ridiculous. So, anyway,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: eight days, a week from tomorrow, we will start the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: National Football League season. Welcome back. Football. Yesterday, the Seahawks
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: pretty much set their practice squad, Trayvon Diggs and others,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to the practice squad. Jared Ivey's leaving. It looks like
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Cody White is leaving. and those are things that we
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: can discuss with our Seahawks insider. Joining us right now
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: is Mr.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Greg Bell.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
• 26:32
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• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I say Mr. Greg Bell, but should I address you, like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: by your rank? I mean, are you, like, doctors? Like,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I've earned the degree. I mean, should I be calling you, like, lieutenant?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know how high you made it up the ranks,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: but is Mr., is that, like, an insult to you, potentially?
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: No, no, no. Mr., I'm a civilian now. Okay. I
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: was a captain, but... Captain! Oh, I like that. The
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: only time it's... as a captain but there was if
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: you're retired officially meaning 20 years of service then sometimes
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: guys retain their or gals retain their rank but even
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: then it's a it's a little pretentious to walk around
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: saying Colonel Retired or Retired General. You've earned it. I
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: guess you've earned it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But I now kind of want to call you Captain Bell.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: Matt Sikaris and Blake Price up in Vancouver are still
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: on with him and their show. Sikaris calls me Captain
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: Bell all the time.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: It's like when you still call a coach a coach.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: He might not be coaching anymore, but he was a coach.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Even more so. I kind of feel like I should
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: do it now.
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going to lose the rank because you're not there.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And probably, even if we don't end up calling you
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Captain Bell every time we see you, we should stop
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: calling Mike Benton the captain because I know he hasn't
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: earned it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Definitely not.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, I think he has. He's definitely the captain of
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: that Kraken ship, yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: That's true, that's true.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Well, good to have you with us, Captain. We appreciate you.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And let's get into things. Cody White's a guy that
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: you've liked for a long time, and apparently Clint Kubiak
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: likes him as well.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: And apparently he likes Clint Kubiak because it's a like-for-like
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: trade that he's going to... Trades are a word. They
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: didn't trade him. But, I mean, for Cody White, he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: going to the Raiders practice squad. The Raiders announced that yesterday.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: So the Seahawks were obviously offering him the same thing,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and he chose the Raiders and Quinn Kubiak, and it
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: suggests that he really likes Kubiak in the offense and
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: how he hit it off with last year's offensive coordinator.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: Even the Seahawks themselves assume that everyone that they cut
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: wants to come back. Well, Cody White's been here for
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: now four years, and although he had his first career
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: touchdown last year and kind of broke through a little
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: bit last year. He still, if he looked and took
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: stock of everything, he's still where he's been four years ago,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: and that's on the fringe of the roster and starting
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: his season on the practice squad, having to earn his
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: way back in. Apparently, he wants to try that and
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: start anew somewhere else. Why not start with the play
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: of and coordinator I had my first big regular season
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: break with last year?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Now, Jared Ivey is leaving as well. He's going to Atlanta,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised by that. I think even Travis
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Kelsey said, that Ivey guy, man, that guy can play.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: But then again, he was on a group that might
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: be the strength of this football team, probably is the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: strength of this football team. So I'm not surprised, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: take it, that somebody claimed Jared Ivey.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Now we know why they kept him on the roster
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: all last year as an undrafted rookie free agent, even
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: though he didn't play one snap at all. And those
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: of us covering the team were like, wow, Jared Ivey
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: must have pictures of somebody somewhere. What's going on? Why
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: is he... Well, now we know why. The Seahawks feared
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: that if they had tried to put him on the
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: practice squad last year, he'd try to clear him through waivers,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: someone would have claimed him, and then that happens this year.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: They moved Ivey from linebacker to defensive end this year.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: And I wonder if that change, and then him showing
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: up on preseason game films at defensive end, while other
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: teams scouted him as a linebacker, wonder if that multiplicity
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: is the reason the Falcons took him. Because, yeah, again,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: they were so used to everybody coming back. It does
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: somewhat jolting to the team and to those who cover
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: the team. Wait a minute, he's leaving? Why would you leave? But, yeah,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: the position that, I just think he became more attractive
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: to the league when they saw him at a second position.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Well, the front seven looks pretty good at this point,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and so I know they wanted to keep him, but
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Jared Ivey is off to the Atlanta Falcons. So how
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: do they feel good now that the dust has settled
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: from all of this with their practice squad? Do you
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: feel like they believe they gambled and lost a couple
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: of guys, or did they read the tea leaves right
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and they were braced to lose White and Ivey?
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Well, they probably did try to sneak Ivey through, and
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: they're probably a little stunned by that. I wouldn't say stunned,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: but they were probably a little surprised because, like I said,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: they're so used to everybody coming back. But every single
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: one of the 17 guys on the practice squad were
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: here in the preseason and in training camp. All four
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: of the rookie draft picks that they released, what waved
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, signed back. So they have to feel pretty
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: good about that. None of the... practice squad players right
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: now they have to start anew with or has to
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: learn the system and they've all been here and that's
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: unusual I'm not sure I can remember the end of
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: preseason where the entire practice squad is from the training
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: camp roster it also speaks to a Super Bowl champion
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: team that you cut three four of your seven draft
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: picks that there just wasn't room for and that also
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: speaks to a Super Bowl roster that's bringing most of
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: the players back. So coaching-wise, familiarity-wise, for both the players
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: and the coaches, it's a great deal that they don't
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: have to ramp up somebody. I mean, right now, Trevon
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: Diggs is the most new guy on the roster, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: he's a veteran enough to, he knows how to play football.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: It's just nuances of Mike Donald's system.
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  Speaker 1: at 7.05 during the football season. So what is the
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: playing time plan then for Trayvon Diggs going forward?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Well, it'll be up to Diggs. How quickly he proves
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: that he's in football shape to play two-thirds of a snap.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: So I really think he's in line to get the
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: third cornerback spot. And I know McDonald isn't satisfied with
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: with Nehemiah Pritchett or Noah Igbenogany. Another one, a veteran
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: who might have thought to have come back, and he's
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: not on the original practice squad roster. Pritchett made the team,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: and he's still just three years into his four-year rookie deal,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: so they still had club control with another season after
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: this one, which partly explains that. But it's Diggs' job
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: to win now, and now that he's on the practice squad,
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: it's kind of the Seahawks' way of saying– You can
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: take your time or do whatever you need to do
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: to be acclimated and in football shape, but there's a
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: job waiting for you. The other thing about the practice squad,
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: as we know, that is, you talk about an initial roster,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: it is an initial practice squad. The practice squad's going
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: to change before the first game, and it's going to
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: change about 100 times during the season. Guys coming on
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: and off of it, some guys get hurt going practice
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: squad injured reserve, guys come off of it and get
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: jobs with another team 53. The one poaching fear you
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: have as a GM and personnel side of a team,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: NFL rules allow practice squad players to be signed to
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: another team's active 53-man roster at any point. Now that
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: every team has their roster set, it's probably not going
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: to happen until the first game, but once there's first
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: games and injuries and guys from other teams' practice squads
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: move up or injuries on the 53 and they've Pro
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: personnel scouts from around the league, oh, what about that
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: one guy that's in Seattle's practice squad now? And then
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: you start seeing losses that way, and then the practice
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: squad turns again. The Seahawks are notorious for using practice
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: squad as stowing players they want to play in the
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: preseason as well, in regular season and call-up as well.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: You can get called up up to three times from
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: the practice squad to the active roster for game days
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: before you have to then, after the third time, either
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: offer them a spot on the 53 or allow him
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: the opportunity to be free agent. So it's a constant,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: constant churn. The initial is very much an initial practice squad.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Eight days from opening day, is Nicky Manwari going to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: be ready?
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: I'd still say it's 50-50. They're expecting it, but they're
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: not counting on it yet. He just had one the
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: first practice I've seen him in both cleats, a Jersey
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: and looking like something of a participant, like the rest
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: of the team was on Sunday. So he's got some
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: ramping up to do. He still, even Sunday, he was
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: a little bit on the side doing his own stretching
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: and his own extra work before the rest of the
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: team began. And they shoot us out after five minutes.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: So we had to see how he actually participated in
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: the practice itself on Sunday. Not Thursday, but all the
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: days are screwed up for the Wednesday game. Saturday will
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: be the first day that the league is going to
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: require the Seahawks issue a practice participation slash injury report.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: We'll see what the Seahawks list him as as far
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: as participating or not.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: And Price is fine. They just kept him out, right?
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Just so he wouldn't get hurt.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Totally. Right. It's a total bubble wrap deal. I don't
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: expect he'll be on any injury list or practice participation
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: list at all.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What sense do you get from being around coaches in
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: your career, being around Seahawks coaches, that when you get
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: to actual game prep week, when you actually get to
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the let's prepare for our first opponent that counts in
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: the standings, what kind of energy does that bring to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the building?
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Well, certainly to the players. The coaches, my experience is
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: it's all part of this process. They get through the preseason,
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: all the talent evaluation. Training camp is so heavy into
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: player evaluation and very little into opponent prep. Now they
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: sprinkle in practice periods, the Patriots, what they do, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: the scout team a little. But there's not scout team
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: periods per se. Well, now starting Sunday there are. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: for coaches, honestly, especially a coach like Mike McDonald, who
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: loves to be X's and O's and is a nerd
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: for scheme, he loves this. I mean, he likes the
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: evaluation stuff, too. But now he's a mad scientist who's
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: back in the lab. And he hasn't been in the
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: lab since the Super Bowl because he hasn't had really
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: an opponent to prepare his players for. So this is
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: why McDonald coaches. All that other stuff, yeah, you've got
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: to get through it to get to the regular season.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: But game plan opponent, film watching, figuring out how to
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: attack the Patriots and what flaws he sees, and that's
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: why he coaches. That's what he does most and does best,
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: even more so than Pete Carroll. Carroll was more in–
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: if I had to compare the two, Carroll would– he
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: was more of a training camp guy. He loved the relationships.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: He loved– molding a team, choosing players that fit his ethos,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: and then the season started. McDonald can't wait for the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: season to start so he can go be the X's
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: and O's coach he grew up in.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. That's kind of what I expected,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that he really would start salivating at this point now
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that all this is over, now he's got his roster.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Let's start watching the Patriots film and break this thing
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: down and shut him out.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks starts, or not starts, but another episode of
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks tonight. We know Montori Foster Jr. is going
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to be featured with his dad and his mom. That's
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: going to be an obvious one. How much will new
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: ownership be featured, do you think, in this episode?
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: That's a good question. I wasn't in Atlanta when they
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: did the vote. I don't know if Hard Knocks took
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: a camera crew there. I'm assuming they did, because there
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: were a lot of them. There were camera people and
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: sound boom people, so there would be an obvious... next
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: for leaving the preseason heading into the regular season it
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: is the last episode they're done filming i think sunday's
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: practice was the last film day um and tonight will
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: be the premiere of the last episode of it and
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: that would be i hadn't thought about that but that
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: would be a unique way that they haven't had to
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: do that for any other hard knocks team that's covered
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: to have a An entry of a.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: A world championship that gets sold? Yeah, that's pretty... That's unprecedented.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: It is unprecedented. The one thing is, they're still not
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: technically the owners. And Vinod Khosla made note of that
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: when he talked to the media last week. He says, well,
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: we're not really the owners officially yet. It still has
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: to go through the banking and the vetting and the
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: lawyers and all that that I'm told is going to
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: take maybe less than a week. In the greatest... I
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: think the Seahawks are... They would like to, either the
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: day before or the day of the opener, have a
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: press conference at Lumen Field with a Seahawks helmet and
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: the three Kozlas up at the podium and unveiling with
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: all the national and international media who's going to be
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: here for the NFL kickoff game next Wednesday. That's my assumption,
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: but I'm not sure that timing's going to work that way.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: They certainly want it to be done before the opener.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: And I think all signs are that it will be
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: official-official before that.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Whose job will it be to tell Vinod to stop
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: using social media?
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: It is different, isn't it?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: He can't keep up that pace, I'll tell you that.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: There's no way he's going to keep up that pace.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: He's responding to everybody.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: It's true. If anyone wants to be talked to on
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: social media by the new Seahawks owner, just say anything
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: that has Vinod Khosla in it. Anything. Do you like
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: his tie? Or do you like his sports coat? Or anything.
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: He will respond. It is so different than the Allen regime, right?
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, Jody Allen never uttered a public word online
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: in person ever. Paul Allen, you at least saw him around,
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: especially in the locker room after games, home and away.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: But he didn't talk to us, and he certainly didn't
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: have a Twitter account. And that's a guy who helped
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: create the Internet. So it's so different. Yeah, all of
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: us have covered the team for a while and getting
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: a kick out of it. him responding to every little
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: Joe and Jeannie.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Out on the internet. It not only has to thin out,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: it has to stop. He has to stop doing it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: You would think. It's his new toy, and he wants
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: to play with it. He's got the Seahawks. I do
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: think it is just ridiculous that people are bent out
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: of shape about this whole Steelers thing. When he came
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: to America in 1976... If it's a brand-new sport to him,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: and of course he liked the Steelers. They won four
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Super Bowls in six years then, and they were always
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: on Monday Night Football. They were always on national television.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: They were always playing in the Super Bowl. If you
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: were brand-new and thrown in like a Martian came down
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: from another planet and landed, of course they were going
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: to notice the Steelers. If he liked football at all,
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: he'd go, oh, the Steelers team looks pretty good. What
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: is wrong with that? Yeah. I mean, yeah, come on.
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: He's still a human being. Plus, he's got good taste,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: like the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Go go back and watch that coke ad and see
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: if Mean Joe Green really said, hey, Vinod, catch, with
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: his jersey. There might be something to that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: He was in the tunnel there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: It was him in the tunnel. Giving me and Joe
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Green his Coke.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: 85% of the visiting audience have no idea what we're
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: talking about.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: That's all right. Research it. All right, so what's on
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the Captain and Jess show a little later today?
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we're going to start talking a little
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: bit about the Apple Cup. We were thinking of having
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Dave Softy Mahler on, but we don't know if that's
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: a good idea or if he'll be just screaming about
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: the Apple Cup. He's probably a little bit fired up
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: about that. I did notice, I don't know if you
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: noticed yesterday, he asked Dave Softy, Mauler asked during Jed
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Fish's press conference at UW about NFL players coming back
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: to college football and whether UW and Jed Fish would
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: be interested. He said, we're not doing that. I thought
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: that was actually the perfect dismissive answer to that whole
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: idea about Huskies head coach. I don't know how much
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: you've talked about the Mariners, but can they just play
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: like little league level fundamentals? I mean, it's just, it's absurd.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: The thing that, Let's play no doubles defense and then
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: have the center fielder come charging in and be between
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: two minds. It's so lack of– I mean, a high
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: school player should be pulled for that. I don't know
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: why he's not benched. I don't know why they haven't
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: benched starters for some of the bonehead things they've done,
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: and now it's too late. It's just, once again, the
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: 2026 Mariners, a collection of talent with no leadership, and
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: that's decisively going to kill them.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, we'll be listening at 10. Thank you, sir.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Happy Tuesday.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you. There he is, Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: You can follow him at gbellseattle on X, thenewstribune.com. That's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: where he works. And of course, he works at 10
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: o'clock every day here at Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: as well. So you can check out his show today
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: and every day at 10 o'clock. Coming up next on
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: our radio program, we will talk about one of those
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: leaders for the Mariners and a Press conference soundbite that
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: may explain the entire season. Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I've said it before. I'll say it again. I just
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: really do enjoy that relationship between Jalea and Dick Fane.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: They just seem like such supportive friends.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: They're just tight.
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Buds.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:00
  Speaker 7: Buds.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: It's uplifting.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: And it's helping me get through some of these hard
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: times watching our baseball team.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Because you know that you could have a friend like Jalea, too.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: If I, you know, if I'm better. Yeah. If I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: can make myself better.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: If you improve.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Me.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Yourself.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Then I will attract that kind of friendship.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: It's on the horizon for you, Chuck. I can feel it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that because I needed it. Yeah,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I think we all need something. We all need a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: little pat on the back from a friend right now
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: or a Peyton Tolley hug or something to try to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: help us. I mean. There's no understanding what's going on
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: with the Mariners. I think it's just more of coping
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: with it, accepting it. This is who they've been this year.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And I'll argue for the rest of my life with
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: anybody that wants to argue with me in a bar
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be, that it should not
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: have been this way this year, that this team should
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: have won the American League West and by 10 games.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: That's the discrepancy, in my opinion, in roster talent. but
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the team didn't play well this year. They are what
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: their record says they are. That's the way that they've
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: played all season long. And obviously nothing that Dan Wilson
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: can say is going to adjust that. And I don't know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: as we've discussed with Ryan Healy on this show, what
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: gets said behind closed doors for the Mariners. But if,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: his press conference are any indication of just how easygoing
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: he is about failure? That might be the explanation for
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: all of this. Everybody knows I would have fired Dan
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Wilson coming out of the all-star break. We made a
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: really big deal out of it. I went on 38
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: different shows talking about it. So I've made my feelings
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: known about Dan and the job he's done this year.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to sit here and pile on
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: every day. Because I do know he's a good guy,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: and I do know that he's beloved in this city
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: for what he did as a player. And I don't
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: want to take anything away from that. But since that statement, man,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: I've wanted to back off of it at some point, Ashley.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: And instead, at just every game, my fever for why
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: is this guy our manager, it grows every single game.
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: And it's understandable because they are severely underperforming. I think
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: one of the things that I dislike about him being
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: our manager is that it is tainting his legacy. I mean,
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: he is beloved as a player and now everybody should
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: remain to be.
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: And people are getting angry because he's been put in
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: a position that I don't think he was ready for.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: He thought he was ready for it. And I don't
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: know what the conversation was that. They convinced each other
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that this was the right solution. But let's just play
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: that clip. And it's a minute and a half clip,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: but I'm going to stop it at various times. And
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to point out how many times it
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: annoys me. Okay. So this was the clip we played
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: in Mariner's Morning After. It's from last night. I didn't
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: listen to the press conference last night because I couldn't
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: take it. As soon as the game was over, I
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: flipped over to something else and tried not to think
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: about the Mariner's... again for the rest of the evening.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: But Ashley played it to fresh ears this morning, this
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: minute and a half clip, and there were just alarm
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: bells for me going off every 15 seconds. So here's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Dan after the game. Yeah, obviously a really difficult loss.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: This is Fenway Park.
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: Stop.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: All right, let's stop it already. All right. Difficult loss. Obviously,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: someone went to him and said, stop saying tough one.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Because it's his crutch.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And I have crutches. Every radio person, anybody has a crutch.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you need the boss to point it out
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: to you. I don't know why it took so long.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: But obviously, this became a thing. Like people were really,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was on everybody's left nerve. that he
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: just keeps explaining every loss away as a tough one.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: And so I think somebody finally got to him because
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I think he said it after every loss this year.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: He has, absolutely.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: And so he says a difficult one just to change
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And then right there on
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the back end starts blaming the results last night on, well,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: it's a crazy ballpark.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Fenway Park.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: All right, keep going.
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 50:34
  Speaker 8: All right stop.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody's here for moral victories right now i get it
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: eight runs were scored there should be some mention of
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: randy a rose arena putting the entire offense on his
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: back But no one's interested in the moral. This is
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: not the moral victory portion of the season. It is
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: like urgent win or die. That's the portion of the
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: season that we're at at this point. And so do
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: we really need a rundown of the superlatives from a
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: night that has to rank as the, if not one
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of the top five at worst, toughest losses of the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: entire season do we have to have a dose of
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the superlatives you can tell you can tell the players
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: that when you get back in the locker room who
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: had a good game uh if you want give them
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: a lollipop and a little neck rub uh whatever you
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: want to do but i i don't want to hear
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the superlatives i don't want to hear the moral victories
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: after that loss.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: Last night no if you're gonna if you're gonna praise
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: the offense you got to do it by saying and
• 51:45
  Speaker 6: it's a shame that the pitching couldn't hold their hold
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: up their end tonight Yeah, how about that?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. And same vice versa.
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: When the pitching does a great job and the offense
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: doesn't show up, you can say, you know, great pitching effort.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Too bad the offense couldn't get jack squat done.
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, you can do it and praise one bite,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: but still be honest about how the game actually went.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Because, yeah, the offense did a good job. The offense
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: could have gotten even more runs.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Well, Randy Rosadina did a really good job.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: All right. Keep going. And, you know, kept adding on. Randy,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: really huge night offensively. I'm all right with that. Swung
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the bat extremely well. And all our guys in there
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: with a chance. And tacking some runs on.
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: And, you know, George gave us the five.
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Stop.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: George gave us the five. Yeah. Five mediocre innings.
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Actually bad. That's a nine ERA.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: It wasn't good.
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: That wasn't good. George gave us the five.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Could have said George had a tough night that you
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: could use tough there. That would have been all right.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Look, I'm not saying he has to go, please. I
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: not at all. I don't want him to go like
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: scorched earth or whatever. Exactly.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't want him to suddenly change his personality.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: He's ripping everybody. I don't think that's what it calls for.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying like after that crushing of a loss, uh,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And then we're going to go around the room and
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: make sure in the media everybody hears that I patted
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: you on the back when they're not even listening to
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: your comments. You don't have to be critical of George.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You don't have to say, George let us down tonight.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Nobody's asking for that. But do you really need to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: find time in your press conference to tell us he
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: gave us the five tonight? Like, that's minimum expectation for
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: what you wanted from George Kirby. Can you at least
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: give us five? That's minimum expectation.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Just be honest. That's the thing. It seems like he
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: wants to sugarcoat everything. Just be honest. It was a
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: rough night for George.
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Next.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: And our guys continued to fight back. It didn't matter
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: where we were at. took the lead back and that's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: the ultimate one stop that's the ultimate one that's they
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: continued to fight back you lost the game nine to
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: eight again it's not moral victory speech time yeah there
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: are certainly times during the course of a season where
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you do point out moral victories it's not it's not
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: now it's not when you've fallen six games back with
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: 24 to go and 10 games under 500 on a
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: colossal goat f of a season that you've put.
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: Together Yeah, if you win the game, sure, you can say, man,
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: the way we kept coming back.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Sure, of course.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Then absolutely. But, okay, you did it. Yeah, they tried.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Next. Just a tough one tonight. Okay, stop. Tough one tonight.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: He couldn't help himself.
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: The crutch came back out.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: He said you know a lot less in this one, though.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I will say that.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Next. Tough way to end that one. Dan, what did
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you see on that Roman Anthony triple leading off there,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: and what's your message to Julio after that play?
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you know, that's a play where, you know,
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: you get too close, it's really hard to knock down,
• 55:02
  Speaker 8: and it's a decision, you know, you've got to make,
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: and that one slipped by him, and, you know, that's
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: a tough break in that situation.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: Stop!
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: That is not a tough break.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: It was a mistake.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: That is a bad decision by a person, an adult
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: man that has played center field for five years every
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: single night and has practiced and performed to play in
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: the major leagues and should know better than to try
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and dive for a ball in that situation. It is
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: what lost you the game. That is not a tough break.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: That was not bad luck. That was an in-between ball.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: that even if you think you've got a chance, you
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: have to make the prudent decision to, most important thing
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: is to not let a runner in scoring position right now.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: That is my job in this moment. And instead, He
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: wants to play hero ball, make the diving catch. The
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: ball gets past him. Almost was an inside-the-park home run. Almost.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: But it ends up being a stand-up triple when it
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: should have been nothing more than a single. And the
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: way that Munoz was throwing gas last night, that's as
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: far as it would have gone last night. And instead...
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: He goes after the ball, gets caught in between, and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: then falls and lets it get past him. The last
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: thing that can happen in that moment, and every person
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: that has ever played center field beyond Little League knows
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: not to do that. But we're going to call it
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: a tough break.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Again, there's no honesty. It's just soft.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: That's all I can listen to.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: We're out of time anyway.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: Stop!
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: Stop!
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: No.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think your emotions can handle it right now.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: We'll go to break. Let's talk about Lane Kiffin. What
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: a douche.
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, good.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Next, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Happy Tuesday. It is
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan with you. We roll into
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: our third hour of our four-hour radio program here this morning.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: We do have Aaron Donald and the Rams to get
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: to a little bit later on this hour. Rick Neuheisel
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: joins us at 9 o'clock. We do have the ABCs
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: and the Ms before the close of the show. So
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: still a lot of ground to cover. And yet, kind
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: of feels like we should go over some of the
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: same ground again here to start the 8 o'clock hour.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Because it does feel, it surely does feel done now,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: does it not, Ashley? No.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: It doesn't?
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: No.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: You still are not there?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I am not there.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, good.
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: I'm glad I feel like I probably should relieve myself
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: of the frustrations and emotions. I'm going to go through
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: by still holding on to hope, but I just can't
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: because I have seen glimpses of this team doing some
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: good things. And I mean, we just saw it two
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: weeks ago or a week ago. I mean, it, Since
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: I came back from Hawaii, basically, they have sucked. So
• 58:14
  Speaker 6: if you need me to fly somewhere else.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I'll go somewhere else. You should have never even mentioned that.
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: Well, it's not just me. People are reminding me on
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: the text and the YouTube. Yes. Trust me, if I
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: could afford to go on vacation again and take the
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: days off, I would do it to help this team.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I would do pretty much anything.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Do you hear that, John Stanton? Yeah, why don't you
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: contribute some money to getting Ashley the F out of here?
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want this team to win, apparently that's
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: what it takes. And I will be a willing participant.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: What is the... Because I don't use the text line
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: in front of me. I know I got a lot
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: of response last night on social media. Maybe record setting
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: for me personally. A PR. I said a PR last night.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: And it was mostly on board with me. Um, obviously
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of, I told you this roster
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: wasn't any good. And I told you, Jerry, and I
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: disagree with that. I think the roster was. fine and
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: should have won this series, this, uh, league, this division, um,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: by 10 games this year, but there's no getting around
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the fact that this team has earned its record. They've
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: played terrible baseball this year. They are a 10 games
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: under 500 baseball team, and certainly we're going to spend
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of time in the offseason trying to get
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of that. It's a bit mysterious for me.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: There's no question about it. I could go through all
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: the things that I started the show with, and I
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: probably will get to all of them again, that land
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: as the sources of my runaway frustration at this point
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: but what is the gist what what are people because
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: ashley said the text line's just blown up yeah here
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: today what is the gist of their conversation uh i
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: mean it's.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Just a really a lot of frustration a lot of
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: uh irritation with julio yesterday uh someone saying i don't
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: think julio has enough common sense to be a great
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 6: baseball player i'd disagree with that but he made a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 6: mistake last night absolutely uh dan sucks the guys are
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 6: lost without passionate leadership we need gino suarez we needed
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 6: gino suarez all year dan sucks the last two playoff
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: seasons you could say gino got you there both years
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: they let him go we floundered dan sucks that's from
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: aaron okay wanting to make sure that we knew that
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: he thinks dan sucks that dan sucks.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And look we did an entire segment just a half
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: hour ago about his press conference that he had last night,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: stopping it at moments that aggravated me, us, I don't
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: think he has what it takes to be a leader
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: of men. And Luke Arkins has done this a lot,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: our friend Luke Arkins, and he's also criticized him harshly
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: for this. And I don't necessarily fall in line with
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: that theory that Softie's going with right now, And that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: is that he needs to yank people out of games
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and he needs to call them out necessarily in the media.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: That's no.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Or he has to be behind the scenes. He better
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: be chewing him a new one. I don't know if
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: today's athlete responds to that, but I do think what
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: they respond to is directness and firmness and expectations. And
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: this is a word the softies use a lot, accountability.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: And they reinforce those things. I mean, to watch Mike
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: McDonald on Hard Knocks and then to compare him to
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: what we hear from Dan Wilson. Now, we're just hearing
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: that publicly. Hard Knocks is not following Dan Wilson around.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It would be great if they were, though, because I'd
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: like to know.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: I would love to know. We're not getting the nitty-gritty
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: of it. But my guess is that what you see
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: is what you get. And if that's what the players
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: are getting, too, is this soft mamby-pamby, oh, we didn't
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: get him this time, oh, it was a tough one
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: this time, There's no way that you're going to lead
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: a group of grown-ass men to chew through walls for
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: you when it matters. And last night was another example
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: of it. I mean, there were some excellent performances last night.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Randy Rosarino was spectacular. Cal, I think, has turned the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: corner here as of late. And we're still not winning.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Even with Cal having turned the corner here as of late.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: But he's playing with some grit. Saw Logan pitch with
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: grit two days ago. I mean, there are a lot
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: of examples of that. Dominguez, Spire, and Munoz all pitched
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: well last night. But there's also these examples of I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: call it hero ball. Like, JP should stop swinging for
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: the fences, and yet he's been doing it for three years.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: And if the explanation for it is, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not swinging for the fences. I'm just trying to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: hit the ball really hard, and it's throwing me off balance.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: That's a problem. If you're off balance and you're swinging
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: yourself into a circle, you have pipe cleaner arms. You
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: are not a power hitter. The fact that he hit
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: 10 home runs is the problem because he thinks he's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: a power hitter. And him coming outside of his comfort
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: zone in order to be the hero in every stinking moment. Now,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: he didn't do it last night.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I was going to say he was good last night.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: He contributed by just staying within himself.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: And the bunt. But I think Dom Canzone, even though
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: he played a good game last night, played hero ball
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: last night, bases were loaded. Nobody out. And you got
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: those bases loaded by unconventional means. Cole got brushed with
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a pitch on the elbow. And then you got a
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: walk from Weston Wilson, which was kind of miraculous. And
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: then Randy, because he did everything right last night, gets
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: a base hit. And then you just keep the chain moving.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Keep it going. And Dom comes up with three swings
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: to try to hit a grand slam 1,000 feet. That's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: not what I want to see in that moment. And
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: where is the coaching? Where is the heavy hand? But
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: that's the way that we operate. And maybe it is
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: because we just have a bunch of nice guys. Kevin
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Seitzer is like a syrupy sweet nice guy. Pete Woodworth
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: He instills confidence in his players by constantly being a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: form of affirmation for them. He's like a handsome Stuart Smalley,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: that Pete Woodworth. It's just always like, you got this.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: And it works. It works for him. But if you
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: have an entire staff that's operating that way, that's just
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: about back rubs and attaboys, Can you get where you
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: want to go with a group of professional men? They
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: don't have that competitive edge. They lose it from game
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: to game. There's fire and focus one day. There's fire
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and focus for five days. And then suddenly you show
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: up at the ballpark in Toronto and there's none for
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: an entire weekend. And maybe that does have something to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: do with leadership. Maybe that's what it's all about. And
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: forget the X's and O's mistakes that I thought Dan
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: made last night, which I'm happy to outline for you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: here in a little bit. But I don't need him
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: jerking people out of games. We need those guys. We
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: need Julio Rodriguez. He's one of our better players. But
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I do need more evidence that you are holding people
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: responsible and accountable and that there is some sort of,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: this is how a professional operates. This is how a
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: teammate operates. And this no-brainer, keep the guy to a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: single thing that every center fielder from high school baseball
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: on knows to do in that situation. And our all-star
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: center fielder who plays 160 games that position every stinking
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: summer makes that mistake in that moment. And that is
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: not a tough break, as Dan described it. That is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a boneheaded decision. Probably from somebody that thought he wanted
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: to be the diving hero and make the highlight rather
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: than make the sensible, boring, keep them to first play.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: We don't have that. We don't exhibit that as a
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: team and haven't all season long. And yeah, a lot
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: of that falls on the players. But where is the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: coach to say that's not how you win? Where is that?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: I hope it's happening behind the scenes. But my guess
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: is after 128 games or whatever, Ashley, it's not happening
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes any more than it's happening in front
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: of our eyes.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, I get the impression that the players are
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: harder on themselves than their manager is.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: And that they're harder on each other and on themselves
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: and that their manager.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Isn't adding anything.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: He's not.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: He's not calling them out. And I don't want him
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: to do it publicly.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: But in a locker room, I mean, bring someone bring
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 6: someone into your office and say, hey, man.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: You've got to be better than that. You're not calling
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: them out.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: You're not being rude.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: You're being a coach.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: You're being somebody who's trying to help them win, who's
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: trying to help them continue to grow in the sport
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: that they play.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: That's your job.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: How has the message about challenges not gotten through?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: I mean, seriously.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: It's a great question because it actually seems like we've
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: gotten worse again.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: This is just an example. It's a small example. But truly,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: if you are going to guys and like, hey, this
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: isn't about you're at bat. This is about what's best
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: for the team. These challenges, we get two precious ones.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Don't be selfish with it. How many times has Josh
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: Naylor had a challenge with an 0-1 count and then
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: been wrong about it? JP, another stupid challenge. We burned two.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Not only were you dead wrong because it wasn't even close.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: You weren't even close to being right. They were used
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: in preposterously stupid, non-beneficial situations. How is that continuing 140
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: games into the ABS Challenge System's history? Because I do
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: watch a lot of baseball beyond the Mariners, and other
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: teams don't do it. Why do we continue to fail
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: at the ABS Challenge System? I mean, there's clearly never
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: been one coach that sat down and said, we're not
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: going to do that in that situation.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Never.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: And then we don't even call them when we should
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: use them. Late in the game with ninth inning and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: nobody on base and why not use it?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: It's because then we're scared.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: If that doesn't resonate right there. We still have Josh
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Naylor in the middle of a high-scoring, tight game with
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: our starting pitcher struggling, knowing that our bullpen has not
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: been getting the job done as of late, and runs
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: are going to become important, and challenges are going to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: become important. and that every game and every pitch is
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: valuable right now. And he's just sitting up there like,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: I want that to be a ball. Tap my head.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: I want that, yeah.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: But I really want it. It wasn't even that beneficial
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to his at-bat.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I think it was 0-1. So what? You get to 1-1.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: Or 1-0. Who cares? And obviously there's no coaching on it,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: or there's no respect for the person who is coaching it,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: because it doesn't change.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Well, and that might be the problem right there.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: If they are saying it, and these players, yeah, Dan
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 6: is a nice guy, but do you have respect for him? Like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks players clearly have respect for Mike McDonald.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: Right. Right.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald is a nice guy, but he's not afraid
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: to Let somebody know when they're screwing up.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: I think I might have concussed myself. I was doing
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that for dramatic effect so that the radio audience would
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: hear me smack my own head.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: You don't have a helmet on.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I don't have a helmet on.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan would have went on the IL if he
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: did that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he would have.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a cheap shot.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: You want another text?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. This is from the 405.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 6: This losing, disorganized, underachieving energy that surrounds this team starts
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: with ownership and upper management, and it all rolls downhill.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: The Mariners might stumble into a playoff race once in
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: a while. But it just goes well beyond game plans
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: and Dan Wilson. This is a losing organization because there
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: is not a winner's mentality at the top.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Well, look, and I'll push back on that. I know
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: we're all railing, but we've had five straight winning seasons.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: We might not have a championship. We don't have a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: championship mentality. I'll give you that. And I think that
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: that's tried to have been corrected the last couple of years.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've been pretty aggressive at the trading deadline
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: now three years in a row. We've stopped trading. being
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: scared of one-year rentals. We've now done that two years
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: in a row. Jerry let go of offensive philosophy and
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: handed it over to a proven hitting instructor in Kevin Seitzer,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: but also a really nice guy. And so is Edgar,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: a really nice guy. There's not a ball buster in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: the group. And I don't think that necessarily today's athletes
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: respond to that, but they do respond to it. Firmness, directness.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: And maybe they're not getting that. So I don't think
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: that they've had a loser's mentality. I think that they've
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: had a winner's mentality, stopped short of having a championship
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: mentality for sure. Maybe they don't know how to win
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: a championship. But this season, I mean, I just can't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: chalk it up to ownership and management didn't do its
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: job in the offseason. I just can't. Not when Vegas
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: is saying we're going to win 93 games and run
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: away with the American League West. Every national pundit out
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: there says the Mariners should win this easily when the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: Astros and the Rangers themselves don't even make positive moves
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline even though they're ahead of us
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: because they don't feel like they have the team to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: beat the Mariners. This team organizationally spent money on Josh
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Naylor We all wanted them to do that. What we
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: saw from Josh Naylor, man, that's got to be kept.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: Everybody was on board with that, by the way. Josh
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Naylor has not been a good player this year. And
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I think he's been actually problematic at times. Kind of lackadaisical.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: Last night, he didn't run out a chopper on a
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: ground ball that might have been the difference in the game. So,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how we blame Jerry and John for that.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Re-signing Josh Naylor when we all wanted that to happen.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, Cal Raleigh's had an atrocious season. Should we
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: have traded him in the offseason for a better catcher?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: One that wasn't going to have a bad year this year?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Because we can predict that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: One that wasn't going to pull his oblique and affect
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: his entire game? Is that what we should have done? Like,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you had the people, and
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: you're not getting the most out of the people. You're
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: not even getting near the most out. You're not even
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: getting them to play average baseball for their abilities and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: the standards that they've set for themselves. I don't go
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: back to ownership and management on that. I say that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: they're vulnerable management this offseason. Ten games under. 500, you
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: better believe everybody's head is at risk.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Every single person. But if I'm handing out blame pie,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: I'm blaming the people, the coaches, and the manager for
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: the talent that they've assembled. Talent so good that every
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: single person at spring training did not shy away from
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: the goal as a championship. And then you perform 10
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: games under.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: 500. I mean.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: We had a lineup not long ago where Taylor Ward,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: league leader in walks, who's walked like three times since
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: he's been here, was hitting eighth. And Brendan Donovan, our
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: big offseason acquisition, was hitting ninth. How does a lineup
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: with those two guys hitting eighth and ninth finish last
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: in baseball and run scored? That, to me, is a
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: lineup that should do some things. But we're last in
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: baseball and offense. I don't think not being able to
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: see that Cal Raleigh was going to hit 160 for
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: most of the season this year is on ownership and management.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I just don't. If anything, it's on, we'll start with
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the player, but the guys whose jobs are to get
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: the most out of the players that they're given. Anybody
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: got the impression that we've gotten the most out of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: the talent that we have this year?
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Not at all.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Not even close.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: I will say one thing, too.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: We're getting some texts, people concerned about the background noise
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: they heard in Dan's press conference. No, they do not
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: do those press conferences on the road in the locker room.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: That was not Mariners players laughing and celebrating in the background.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: It was in the hallway at Fenway Park at the
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: bottom of the arena. It's most likely fans that are
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: going by leaving the arena.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: That is not Mariners players making, you know, not caring
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: about a loss.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: No, as a matter of fact, there's a Brian Wu
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: press conference where At his locker, not a press conference,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: but at his locker. And he's being interviewed about the
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: state of the team. And you hear some screaming going
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: on in the background.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, I haven't heard that.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some angered screaming from the, not like at another person,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: just expressions of anguish. Oh, okay. Like we heard at
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the end of the Blue Jays, remember?
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: And they said it was Julio in the background. It
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: might have been him again. Might have been JP. I
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: don't know. But somebody took the loss really hard last night.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I think they are taking the losses really hard right now.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: But it just goes from game to game. Just a
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: lot of the same mistakes and a lot of the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: absent-mindedness and a lot of the lack of focus for
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: what the job requires in the moment. Dom's been terrific
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: this year. I'll point it out again. But that was
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: just a atrocious at bat. You want to take one
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: swing at the fences?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: I guess. I guess. Three?
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: That's just not winning baseball when everybody else is getting
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: on base. Tack on. Keep it going. Sometimes homers are
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: rally killers. Now, that wouldn't have been.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: No, that would have been great.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: A four-run homer. I mean, we would have taken that,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't necessarily, the moment did not necessarily call
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: for that. Get the run home. That's winning baseball. Too
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: much hero ball. Too much lack of focus. Some guys
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: are 100% all in. And some guys look like they
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: don't even care what the result is. And sometimes it's
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: different guys from night to night. They are not on
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: the same page. And that comes back to, you're right, leadership.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't think Jerry DePoto is a leader of men.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think that he is. And I think that
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: he's relinquished leadership. A lot of those responsibilities. I think
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: he was too involved with the clubhouse. He was too
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: dismissive of how valuable Kendall Graveman's and Paul Seawald's were
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: to the clubhouse. And he got rid of them. And
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: he admitted that that might have been a mistake. Even
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: though we got Dom Canzone to show for that.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't admit those specifically were mistakes. But he
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: has kind of backed off of not thinking that clubhouse mattered.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: I think that's been pretty evident.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: So, I don't know. I don't know if we got
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: to the bottom of it all.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: We're all frustrated.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we are.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: And to me, I mean, I want you to keep
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: your chin up, Ashley. I want you. I mean, because
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: it's not technically over. But, yeah, it feels over.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I understand.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: Last night it feels over.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: I understand absolutely why people would feel that way and
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: why you would feel that way.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: And I should probably feel that way. I'm just really,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: really stubborn.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Keep with it.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: We need it. We need somebody to.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Figure something out. If I have to go back to Hawaii,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to Hawaii.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Coming up next. Let's talk about Aaron Donald's return. Let's
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: take a break from this. Has he made the Rams invincible?
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• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday, but not just any Tuesday. It
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• 1:19:24
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• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Neuheisel joins us. Hello, Coach.
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  Speaker 5: Chuck, how the heck are you, buddy? You ready for 2026?
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  Speaker 1: I think so. I think I am. Are you? That's
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the bigger question.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm ready.
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  Speaker 5: Storylines abound, as is normally the case. But many of
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: them away from the fields of play.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Many of them in the courtrooms. And that has been
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 5: the story all summer long.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: Well, let's go ahead and start there since you brought
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: it up. What the hell is wrong with Lane Kiffin?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, at his core as a human being, what
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: is the issue with this person?
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 5: Always looking for an edge. And listen, I've been in
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: the business a long time. I understand that. I was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: always looking for an edge in recruiting, always trying to
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: figure out how, because that's your lifeblood, getting good players.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: But this has gone to a place where I think
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 5: everybody is just scratching their heads. And in this case,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 5: I actually can't fault him. Because the class of 2022,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: the class of 2022 got a raw deal.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: By the NCAA.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 5: They were told that there was going to be no
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 5: extra year. And so those who decided to go off
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 5: to the NFL, even though they weren't drafted, decided, OK,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 5: I'll go up and try to get into camp and
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 5: make a team. And then they find out in June
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: after they've already signed that, oh, we're going to go
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 5: five for five. But in the five for five edict,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 5: the NCAA still says to everybody that's part of that
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 5: class of 2022, the high school class of 2022, that
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: you don't get to play the fifth year. You played
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: against people that all got a fifth year because of COVID.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: You are anybody that's not a senior that didn't just graduate.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: They get their fifth year. But you are going to
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 5: be the one class in this kind of last decade
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: that doesn't get your fifth year. And then when the
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: kids took that to court, judges looked around and said, why?
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: Why are you the only ones that don't get the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: fifth year? And so they said, the merits of your opportunity,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: the chances of you winning in court are such that
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: I'm going to provide you an injunction. And that's why
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 5: they're eligible to play. And we're going to see a
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: bunch of those kids play this weekend. So Lane just said, well,
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 5: what about the guys that because they were told they
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 5: couldn't play, went and tried to make an NFL team?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 5: and now aren't on an NFL team, why can't they
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 5: come back? And the judge in Louisiana has said, I
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: agree with you. They should be able to come back.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: They were given bad information by the very entity that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: created the new rule. And because of that, Lane's trying
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: to get a few of his former players back to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: come and play for him at LSU. A Louisiana judge
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 5: has said yes, and the SEC is up in arms,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 5: threatening him. All sorts of penalties, all sorts of fines,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 5: all sorts of even kicking LSU out of the league
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: is being talked about. I mean, it is craziness what's
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: going on in the southeastern portion of our country.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: So what is he going to do? Is he just
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: going to play them and then see where the chips fall?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: So tomorrow or excuse me, Thursday, there's going to be
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: another court hearing. The SEC bringing this this to a
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 5: magistrate and they're going to plead their case. And that
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: judge is going to give a ruling. And Lane Kiffin
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 5: has said he'll comply with whatever that whatever that judge says.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 5: The SEC has said we got to think about all
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 5: of our options because they're banding against LSU, thinking that
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: they're a rogue state, if you will.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: And it's wild. It really is wild.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Is this going to be the craziest thing that happens?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you get the impression that we're starting
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: to get our arms around every potential weird situation? Or
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: are we just a long way away from the Wild
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: West having laws in town?
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  Speaker 5: Well, the five for five rule is a common sense rule.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: that the idea that you get five years to play,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 5: which then that people can't play games with the redshirt rule, right?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: The redshirt rule was great while it was around. But
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: now that people get paid, if I can stop playing
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: and save my year because I've proven I'm a really
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 5: good player and get more money the next place, you
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: stop playing. And no one wants that. So we've just
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: gone to five for five, which makes sense. It starts now.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: when you turn 19 or when you, uh, graduate high school,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: whichever comes first and has a few exceptions like a
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 5: Mormon mission or something like that. But, but that's it.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Five for five, no waivers. That makes a lot of sense.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 5: What didn't make sense is that the guys who wrote
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: that bill and wrote that law into the NCA, uh, uh,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: legislation just said to the class of 22, except you
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: not realizing what judges were going to say, because it's,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: It's easy for a judge to say, well, you're getting
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: a bad you're getting the wrong side of this and
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: finding for him. And all you have to do is
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: give an injunction. You don't have to have it go
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 5: to court because court won't happen until after the year
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 5: is over and the guys will get to play. We've
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: seen countless people play in the last two or three
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 5: years of college football that never actually went to court,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 5: even though they got an injunction to do just that.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: You know what's funny is the other night, I couldn't sleep,
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: so I just turned on one of those 30 for 30s,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: and it was the SMU story. It was the death
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: penalty to SMU. And I'm sitting there watching. I'm like,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: this is tame compared to what's happening now in every program.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: I was at UCLA. We got a couple of those kids.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: The guys who went to Dallas on that story to
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: recruit said it was the wildest scene. Every hotel in
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: Dallas was filled with college recruiters all trying to find
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 5: and hide these kids at different restaurants so they could
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: talk to them about coming to their school.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: Uh, that reminds me of that. There's a major league
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: baseball story when major league baseball started the American league
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: against the national league. And they were doing the same
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: thing a hundred years ago. I mean, we're supposed to like, uh, yeah, the.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: Old NBA versus ABA, the NFL versus the AFL. It's
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: all the same.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: The competition creates the competitor.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: Well, uh, I, I know that we've had, you know,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: controversial topics that have been juicy to discuss. And at times, uh, irritating, frustrating,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: and have sent some people over the edge. But another
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: thing that has happened during this last three years is, man,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: we've had some great football. We have had some great
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  Speaker 1: football seasons the last two or three years, and I
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  Speaker 1: doubt that's going to be different for this upcoming year.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the landscape for the college football
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  Speaker 1: season upcoming. Who is your first team that comes to
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  Speaker 1: mind when I say, who's the team to beat in
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  Speaker 1: college football this year?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's Notre Dame. Notre Dame has an excellent
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  Speaker 5: quarterback in C.J. Carr. I had a lot of friends
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: who were down at the Manning Passing Academy, which happens
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: every year in Thibodeau, Louisiana. And they recruit all kinds
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: of college quarterbacks to come in there and kind of
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  Speaker 5: put on displays. They coach the young kids, but they
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  Speaker 5: also kind of have a showcase, if you will.
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  Speaker 4: And C.J.
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  Speaker 5: Carr was incredibly impressive. he's the grandson of Lloyd Carr,
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  Speaker 5: who was the coach at Michigan. So you know he's
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  Speaker 5: got a background in football. He's going to be well-versed
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  Speaker 5: in terms of.
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  Speaker 4: The X's and O's.
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  Speaker 5: But he's also very, very good. So you start with him.
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  Speaker 5: You've got a couple of Ohio State receivers that just
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  Speaker 5: transferred in. You know what Ohio State gets in the
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  Speaker 5: wide receiver department. You've got the best offensive line coming back.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 5: You've got a great linebacker and secondary core, a top
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  Speaker 5: five defensive line, and you don't play a team that
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 5: can come close to beating you without helping them by
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  Speaker 5: beating yourself until November 7th, which is Miami. So they've
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 5: got a schedule. They've got everything you need. Notre Dame's
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  Speaker 5: the team to pick.
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Look at that.
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  Speaker 6: Yuck.
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  Speaker 1: Says the USC fan chiming in. Or USC grad, I
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: should say.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they don't play it anymore, so she can't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 5: be bitter.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that whole thing makes me bitter, too. But at USC,
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  Speaker 6: not at Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she even celebrated, I think, UCLA firing their AD today,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: which I thought was over the top. Well, man, that's rough.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel with us here on Chugging Buck in the Morning,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: his first official visit with us of the college football season.
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  Speaker 1: Excited to have him back for another full year, thanks
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  Speaker 1: to Taco Time.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the players that will be involved this year.
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  Speaker 1: This time last year was all arch madness. And then
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  Speaker 1: obviously he didn't exactly have the road paved for him
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  Speaker 1: to a Heisman trophy a year ago, but he's back again.
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  Speaker 1: And my guess is he's going to have a pretty
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: good season, but is he going to have the best
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: season out there? Who's the player you got your eye
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  Speaker 1: on this season?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I just mentioned CJ Carr. Obviously, Dante Moore at
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 5: Oregon is a tremendous player, as is DeMond Williams, the
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: quarterback right there in Seattle for the Dogs. I think
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: those guys are fabulous players. Jaden Maiava just got out
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  Speaker 5: of the blocks as SC beat San Jose State. I
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: know it's just San Jose State, but he was 25
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  Speaker 5: of 29 in his first go-round. You've got.
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  Speaker 5: Josh Hoover is now the quarterback at Indiana. He'd been
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: at TCU. If he eliminates interceptions, which kind of plagued
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: him a little bit, playing for the Frogs, and under Signetti,
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  Speaker 5: I expect him to do that. He's got a chance
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  Speaker 5: to be terrific. Darian Menza was an unbelievable player for
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: Duke and Tulane. Now he's at Miami, and you can
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: imagine what's along with him, namely Malachi Toney. Uh, the receiver,
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  Speaker 5: the freshman that was a phenom, you saw him showcase.
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  Speaker 5: I think he had 10 catches or something close to
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: it in the national championship game. So there's in Trinidad,
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  Speaker 5: Chambliss at Ole miss, uh, Marcel Reed at Texas A & M.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's, there's really good players. This is going
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  Speaker 5: to be a fun, fun season. Um, and, and just,
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  Speaker 5: I know it's sounds Homer ish, given that you're in Seattle,
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  Speaker 5: but I liked the Husky schedule.
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  Speaker 4: I really do.
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  Speaker 5: And I long for them to be in the hunt
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  Speaker 5: when Indiana comes to town in November. Indiana is not
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 5: going to be intimidated because of the weather, but they
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  Speaker 5: will be intimidated because of that Husky crowd that I
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  Speaker 5: know is one of the best in football when they're motivated.
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  Speaker 5: So I'm kind of pinpointing that game as a CFP
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  Speaker 5: highlighted type of occasion.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went out to camp a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: ago and I've kind of gotten the buzz around this team.
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  Speaker 1: And they believe, three years into the Jed Fish era,
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  Speaker 1: that when he took over, I mean, he had to
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  Speaker 1: rebuild the lines from scratch. And they believe that's the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: strength of this team, the offensive line and the defensive line.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think that means for a team
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  Speaker 1: that has DeMond Williams at quarterback for their chances of
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  Speaker 1: making the playoffs this year?
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  Speaker 5: I think a 10-2 team from the Big Ten is in, okay?
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  Speaker 5: And as you look at their schedule, they should be
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  Speaker 5: 3-0 when Minnesota comes to town. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: say the Husky home crowd will carry them through against P.J.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 5: 's crew. The game at USC in early October is
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 5: a big one. If they can find a way to
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 5: win on the road, which will be their first road test,
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  Speaker 5: that to me will signal that this is a team
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  Speaker 5: that has arrived. They get Iowa at home, another Husky
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  Speaker 5: crowd requirement. You've got to be there for that. On
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: the road at Purdue, they should handle business. And you
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  Speaker 5: can't take anything lightly. We all remember what happened at Wisconsin, right?
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  Speaker 5: And then at Nebraska, those are winnable games. I'm anxious
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: to see what Calandria looks like at Nebraska. But until
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  Speaker 5: I'm proven otherwise, Nebraska is a 500 team. Then you
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: get Penn State at home. At Michigan State, a team
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: kind of been rebuilding with Pat Fitzgerald as their coach.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 5: Indiana at home. I'm just saying, even with two blemishes
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 5: and then you finish at Oregon, you can go to
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  Speaker 5: Eugene holding a Pat hand. I see them having a
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  Speaker 5: real chance to be 10-1 or 9-2 going to Oregon
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  Speaker 5: to play for a CFP spot.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that lake jump you did would have been
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: a lot easier to do this time of year, a
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: lot warmer, the water. Oh, my goodness.
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  Speaker 5: Can you imagine the apple cup plunge? I mean, that
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 5: would have been simple Simon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, easy.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, in November, it's a commitment.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell her firsthand. That's a commitment. What do
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: you think of?
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  Speaker 5: I told you that story about Barbara Hedges. I told
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 5: you that story about Barbara, right?
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  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the plunge. That's why I'm bringing it up.
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  Speaker 1: It would just be so easy to do when the
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  Speaker 1: Apple Cups played in early September, for goodness sake.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a no-brainer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think, as somebody that's coached in
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: this game and still feels part of this rivalry? I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: remember you bringing the apples for the guys on the
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: set last year for the Apple Cup. What do you
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: think of it being the opening game of the year
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  Speaker 1: and on a Sunday?
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  Speaker 5: I'll take it whenever I can get it. College football
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 5: has morphed and changed and been put through some meat
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: grinders and blenders and what have you. And we got
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 5: a smoothie now, right? But the bottom line is if
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 5: we can get it on the schedule where Washington and
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 5: Washington State play, we should get it on the schedule.
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  Speaker 5: The problem is for the poor Cougars, is they've been
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 5: beat up in terms of what they can afford to
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: spend on their roster because they're not getting the same
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: kind of television revenue and for no wrongdoing on their own.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: It's just unfortunate. So the chances for the game to
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: be really competitive have diminished, but don't tell that to
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: that team that's going to take the field wearing crimson
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  Speaker 5: and gray.
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  Speaker 1: You might as well tell your Barbara Hedges story for
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: those that didn't hear.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: It Barbara Hedges was in my kitchen getting ready as
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: we were all preparing for the Apple Cup plunge. And
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 5: Neil Dempsey, whose name is on the indoor facility, a
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 5: incredibly benevolent booster, sat and looked at me like, are
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 5: you crazy? You're jumping in the lake right now? It's
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 5: that cold? And I said, we're going, Neil. You want
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 5: to go? And he goes, I won't. But I will
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: write a check for $ 2 million to the athletic department
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: And he pointed at Barbara. If she goes, if she
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: goes two million right now. And I looked at Barbara.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: I said, come on, let's go. And she said, Rick,
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  Speaker 5: I can't.
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  Speaker 4: My hair.
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  Speaker 1: Two million dollars.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: Two million. I said, we can buy new hair. And
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: she didn't. She didn't think that was funny.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think the game will last many more years?
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think that the sands and the hourglass are
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: running out on it?
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  Speaker 5: Here's my prediction. I think for the short term, that
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: could be obviously.
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  Speaker 4: Your conclusion.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: I see a new world in 2031. 2032 maybe even
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: having to wait till 2036 when the acc television deal
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: is up where we reshuffle the deck and washington and
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 5: washington state will be back as a uh as partners
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 5: again and whatever the new look.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Of college football is okay yeah well it'll be sad
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  Speaker 1: um but it wouldn't be the first great rivalry that
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: got crushed by the modern times um but uh hopefully
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: we do get to see the game played uh annually
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: going forward. We shall see how it unfolds. All right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through, I mean, I normally
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: weekly go through the big games this weekend, but you
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: haven't even had a chance to watch most of these
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: teams play, any of these teams play this weekend. So
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: it almost seems unfair to have you analyze them without
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: any information having watched them play. So I'll just ask this,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: what's the game you're most looking forward to this weekend
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: that's not the Apple Cup?
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  Speaker 5: I would, the Tiger versus Tiger thing in Baton Rouge.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 5: So much conversation about Lane and, you know, what's going
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: on there and, you know, our pros playing. And here
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: comes Dabo Sweeney, who's as old school as they come.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 5: You know, baseball, hot dogs, apple pie, and Dabo Sweeney, right?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm just curious to see if his Clemson team
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: can give the newfangled Tigers a run. And I'm hoping
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: it's a really competitive game.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have your same crew back this year?
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Same crew.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: On Tuesdays, though, we add a face. Brian Kelly joins
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 5: our squad today, which I leave our phone call now
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: to go to the studio and do some TV with BK, which.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Will be fun. He came out firing this past weekend
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: as a media member, from what I understand. So, get ready.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think there'll be any shyness from Brian Kelly.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: I don't worry about his ability to be.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: Gregarious.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Well, have fun. Thanks again for joining us. We're excited
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: to have you back. for another year and looking forward
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: to another thrilling college football season with you.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to have a blast.
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  Speaker 4: Go Dawgs.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: Enjoy the weekend, my friend.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Rick Neuheisel joining us right here on the radio show.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up next, ABC's of the M, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Losing somehow to the Boston Red Sox last night, inventing
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: another way to blow a baseball game 9-8 in 10 innings.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: And so we've had numerous conversations about it here this morning.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to recap all of them. I'm just
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: going to use the ABCs of the M's as they
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: were designed to be used. You never know where the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: alphabet's going to take us through our Daily Mariner segment.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: And we begin with the letter M today, and M
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: is for Montez. So, not trying to pull it a
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: silver lining, but certainly for Mariner fans that follow prospects,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: this is an exciting night to see Laz Montez make
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: his Major League debut. We still don't know who's pitching
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: for the rest in Red Sox, or at least I
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: didn't at 6 o'clock this morning. Maybe they've updated that since.
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: We can check. But if it's a left-hander, I would
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: imagine that Montez is going to play anyway. That would
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: be my guess. Looks like Jettison Pius. Never even heard
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: of him. Bet you he's left-handed. No, he's right-handed. Oh, what?
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: 22 years old.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, and he's wearing a white socks uniform in the picture,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: so he must have just... Okay.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: Jettison Pius. Never even heard of him. 22 years old, 6'1,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: 170 pounds, so.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: Laz Montes is going to be in the lineup tonight.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Who are you getting in Laz Montes? For those of
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: you that don't follow the prospects, the best power hitter
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: in our organization, at least power hitting prospect in our organization,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: a big dude, so gregarious, such a great personality, and
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: then also moves pretty well for his size, has a
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: really big arm from right field. I watched him play
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: a few Tacoma games and sometimes defensively, Yeah, he doesn't
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: always take the best route, but I watched him play
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: the last couple of games, and he was fantastic in
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: the outfield. So I'm excited about this tonight, if for
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: no other reason than to watch Laz Montes make his
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: debut in the major leagues, and maybe he will give
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: them a boost, because this dude does damage to the
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: baseball when he makes contact with it, but he does
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: strike out a lot. And he hits from the left
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: side of the plate. So, again, we already have a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: pretty lefty-dominated lineup. Well, we're adding another left-handed hitter to
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: that mix here this evening. So, excited about it. Now,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: there is another wrinkle to this.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: There's another power-hitting prospect placed for the Cleveland Guardians organization
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: by the name of Ralphie Velasquez. And Ralphie Velasquez is
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: the hottest hitter in the minor leagues. And the Guardians
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: right now are a wild card team. They actually had
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: the last spot in the wild card, or at least
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: last I checked. And so, Ralphie Velasquez could help a
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: team that, despite their status as a playoff team, has
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: been terrible offensively all season long. And so, they've been asking,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: just like they did a year ago with Chase DeLauder,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: when are we going to bring up Ralphie? Ralphie, Ralphie,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: wreck it, Ralphie. Let's bring up Ralphie.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: Ralphie, Ralphie, Ralphie.
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  Speaker 1: That's all they've been talking about in Cleveland, and they've
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: refused to do it to this point. And they still
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: haven't announced, even though today's September 1st, i.e. September call-up time,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: they still haven't announced that he's being called up. And
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: believe me, he's crushing it. And one of the reasons
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: they aren't is because they are thinking about there possibly
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: being a strike next year. A little interesting fact about that.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball can strike minor league baseball can continue playing.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: So their theory is apparently in Cleveland, do we really
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: want to start his clock, have to create a 40-man
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: roster spot for him, and then if we don't have
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: major league baseball, Ralphie doesn't have a place to play.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: Where if we don't activate him this year to try
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: to help us win and secure a playoff spot, then
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: he can keep his development going at the minor league level. Well,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: we've clearly decided we don't care about that with Laz
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: Montes here in Seattle. And so interesting kind of approach
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: to all of this shows you how desperate the Mariners
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: are to still try to pull this thing off. Meanwhile,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Guardians are far more worried about Ralphie Velasquez's
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: longevity than they are about whether or not they make
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: a wild card spot this year.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: Seems that way.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: Also, I will say I would love to see Montez
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: hit his 39th and 40th home runs against Jettix and.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Paez today with his 18 ERA.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: He's played in three games. The last one was March 31st.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's being called up just because of
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: an emergency.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Situation here. So, yeah, I'm sure we'll invent a way
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: to get no hit by him.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: All right. N is for nincompoop. Yeah, I'm going to
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: talk about Dan. I'm shocked.
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I mentioned this at 6 o'clock. I did not mention
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: it when we talked about him at 7.30 or at
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: 8 o'clock when we talked about the season at large.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to keep piling on, but, man, you
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: should have, like, one managerial decision that you're, like, outraged by.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're being reasonable at most once a
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: week maybe where you're, like, standing on the table like, no, no, no.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Or why?
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you are wrong, the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: Mariner fan. And maybe the manager is right most of
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: the time and we're wrong. Maybe that's the case. I mean,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: he does have a lot more information than we do, right?
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: He has played a lot more baseball than what we have, right?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, Ashley, it is four times a game.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: It's four times a game with this guy. And last
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: night was.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: Why have they not figured out that when George gives
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: up a cheap hit that he loses focus?
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: He's a little talking to.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, since I started bringing this up, does it
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: not happen every single time? If he gives up a
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: cheap hit, he gets angry. And then the next thing
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: you know, he's giving up a walk, which he did
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: last night. And then it was a 2-0 count on
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: the next batter before Cal went out to talk to him.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying Pete goes out there or Dan goes
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: out there. Cal's perfectly good with that, but Cal either
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: needs to take it upon himself or Dan needs to say, Cal,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: get out there. He just gave up a blue pit.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 4: You know what.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: Happens to him when he gives up a blue hit.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: Talk him off the blue pit. Talk him off the ledge.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: You know, there's got to be, I mean, you don't
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: say it out loud on the field, but there's got
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of, you know, code like, ha, ha.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: Ka-ka! Ka-ka!
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Whip-a-wow! Whip-a-wow! You know, some sort of call that George
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: isn't even aware of that means, oh yeah, I gotta
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: go out and talk to George. How are they keep
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: letting this happen? And he gave up two more runs
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: last night after the cheap infield single that he knew
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: he made his pitch, and that guy should have never
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: been on first, and I'm pissed about it, and I
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: can't even focus on the next hitter, and I'm gonna
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: walk him, and I'm gonna 2-0 on the next guy
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: because I can't get over the fact that that... Jerk
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: got an infield single against me when I made my pitch.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: That's how it operates. And the Mariners do not figure
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: it out. This has been five years with this guy,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: and they still don't figure it out.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no excuse for it, honestly. There's no excuse.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's just one example. Bizzardo shouldn't have been in.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: We shouldn't have bunted with Robles in the 10th. That's
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: not what you do in the top of the 10th inning.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: And shouldn't have put Criswell in in the bottom of
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: the 10th. his first appearance in two months, you're going
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: to throw him into the fire and say, save our season, buddy.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: And then load the bases and give him no margin
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: for error.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: That's where it bothered me.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 6: I was sitting there watching it with my friend Ashley
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: because it's easy to have friends with the same name.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: You never forget them.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 6: And I said, what are we doing? Now he can't
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 6: screw up at all because we'll just walk in the
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 6: winning run. And that's the worst thing.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: And what did he do?
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: 3-0.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: And then he had to throw.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some great pitches.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: Right over the middle. And Story ends up knocking in
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: the game-winning hit. It's not bad strategy to load the
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: bases in that situation. Not with him. Yeah, exactly. Because
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: you do want to get the force at home. Chad
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Durbin is a dirtbag. I mean, he's going to get
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: the job done if you pitch to Durbin in that situation.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm throwing Ferrer against the lefty Duran. Maybe I
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: don't have the force at home. but maybe I can
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: get the strikeout, and that's my best way to get
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: out of this, not getting the force at home. So
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: it was just a terrible decision to go to Criswell. Yeah.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: You haven't pitched in two months. You're coming back to
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: Boston where you used to pitch. Your motor's going to
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: be running hotter than anyone here. I'm going to load
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: the bases for you. Get out of it.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't screw this up.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: Unreal.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: O is for oblique. I think we're going to find
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: out this offseason that Cal Raleigh played with a bad
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: oblique this entire year and i think that we're gonna
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: have a different perspective on it once we get to
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: the offseason when he's honest about it and here's why
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: i mean this anybody else notice that he can't throw
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: out runners anymore and i know he got one last.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: Night i don't even remember.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: The last time he threw out a base runner prior
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: to last night.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: We actually had someone text in and ask about that yesterday.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Do you know what his throwing... Here are his percentages
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: since he came into the league.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: 26%.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 7: 29%.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: 28%.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: 29%.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: That was his platinum glove year. 26%. Those were the
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: first five years. That's a really good ratio in Major
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: League Baseball. This season, 13%. Oh, wow. I didn't know
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: it was that bad. Nine out of ten runners are
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: stealing base. Alejandro Kirk stole a base against him over
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: the weekend.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's short and chubby.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: Now, does anybody think that Cal Raleigh's arm would have
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: just gone to trash in the offseason?
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Or do you think maybe he can't let it rip
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: because he's dealing with a side injury?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 4: Maybe?
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe?
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule it out.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's never dealt with an injury before this year,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 6: and I don't know that he handles it well.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: His arm strength is 45th. This guy won a Platinum
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Glove Award two years ago. Arm strength of all catchers
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball, 45th out of 70. When Cal Raleigh's, oh, fine.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: We're talking top 10.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's incredible.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: 13% of base runners.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about the possibility that he was still
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: playing with it. I think he's still playing with it.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: I think that's a good observation.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: He's either still playing with pain or he got so
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: used to throwing that way to protect himself that now
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: his entire motion is off.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: Well, I'm going to hope that it's some pain that
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 6: he can get over and not that he has to
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: relearn how to throw.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Finally, and I do have to mention this just quickly,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: P is for Peyton. Did you like the hug last night?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, between him and Dom.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 6: And Dom.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: Actually, I thought it was funny.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: I laughed.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: As diehard as Red Sox fans are, you know how, oh,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: take it seriously. That's a wicked pisser.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: They loved it. They loved him.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was funny.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 6: It was like, okay, Dom was like, all right, you
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 6: got me here. And I mean, what are you going
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: to do in that? Be mad that Dom didn't reach first?
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't that he wasn't taking it seriously. It
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: was just a moment.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: He's apparently like the most likable person in sports. Peyton Tolley,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: the pitcher for the. Red Sox, big bear of a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: man with a big, giant Tom Selleck mustache. Really good
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: at what he does, but he plays with that sort
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: of charm all the time. And it might rub old
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: school people the wrong way that he's going to hug
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: an opponent. But it got greeted with so much aplomb
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: last night. And when Red Sox fans are like, I
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: love this guy, after something like that, I mean, he's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: a pretty special dude, that Peyton Tully. I liked it.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 6: It's not like Dom hit a home run and then—
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 6: totally walked up to him at home plate and was like,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 6: hey man, that was a great hit.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: This was in the competitive spirit.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: It was funny. A big giant bear standing between you
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: and first base. You can run over me or you
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: can hug me.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Dom's just like, all right.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that. You can try to run over
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: me or you can just hug me and accept your fate.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: And they just did the hug it out. I actually
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: really liked that.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 4: Me too.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: All right, one last thing next on KJR.