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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday May twenty seconds. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought to you by dream Finders
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  Speaker 1: Homes and now a guy who wants you to know
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  Speaker 1: that it's okay during the first week of OTAs for
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  Speaker 1: the defense to be outperforming the offense.
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  Speaker 2: JAP welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Them's the rules.
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  Speaker 2: I don't make him.
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  Speaker 3: We're presented by dream Finders Homes, official homebuilder of the
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  Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars. Busy Hour ahead a Logman lame show today
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Loghman Austin Lane and Studio with us OTAs underway.
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  Speaker 3: The first one is open to the media on Monday.
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  Speaker 3: They've had a couple since then. We'll discuss coming up
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  Speaker 3: and then the expectations coming off OTAs and some of
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  Speaker 3: the highlights and clips out on social media and ustin
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  Speaker 3: news from around the league. Some some minor rule changes,
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  Speaker 3: the preseason schedules out for the Jaguars now officially, and
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  Speaker 3: Jim Mersey passed away the owner of the Indianapolis Colts.
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  Speaker 3: We'll get to all that coming up shortly on ten
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  Speaker 3: today XL Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP Shadwick with you,
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  Speaker 3: Jeff Lagham and Austin Lane. Gentlemen, good afternoon. What's up afternoon?
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, we know you missed the headline
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  Speaker 3: that like today's news.
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  Speaker 2: What's up? The tush push is back? Absolutely, yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: never went away.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I I how do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, jag stopped it twice, remember right, So be better? Okay, defense,
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  Speaker 2: be more stout? What do you think about that? So?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm off hard the toush push because it's
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  Speaker 4: a football play and I think that the teams that
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  Speaker 4: voted against it are teams that can't stop it. So
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  Speaker 4: you got to figure it out. Now, Jeff, you're a
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  Speaker 4: defensive guy. I have an idea of how to stop.
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  Speaker 2: The tush push.
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  Speaker 4: Now come along with me a little bit, and JP,
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  Speaker 4: you're pretty to join in here. So you talk about
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  Speaker 4: it's probably go on the gap or B gap, right.
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  Speaker 4: This is a quarterback sneak, right, and then then they
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  Speaker 4: push from behind. I say, we get our two biggest
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  Speaker 4: guys at the nose, you know, tackle, get them in
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  Speaker 4: the middle, we get our linebackers bring them down, and
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  Speaker 4: we push the defensive tackles in their tush. So it's
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  Speaker 4: almost like a what we call like a scrum, like
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  Speaker 4: a ruggy scrum. Where will you take your linebackers, You
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  Speaker 4: push your defensive tackles forward, and that's going to create
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  Speaker 4: that penetration to stop the toush push. Noteing the NFL
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  Speaker 4: right now does this? I say, you give it a truck.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see now, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The other part of that is that all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: you're pushing two defensive linemen. That means that's four guys
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  Speaker 3: in that small space. What if they just break it?
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  Speaker 2: Why? And you've got numbers they could they could could
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  Speaker 2: be a reaction to that.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the official term is not a rugby
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  Speaker 3: scrumka because I have been called out on using that
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  Speaker 3: term many times, saying for the for the JP, you
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  Speaker 3: might need to do a little research on the exact
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  Speaker 3: exact wording of it. But I have been called out
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  Speaker 3: about forty from time saying stop using that term. That's
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  Speaker 3: not what it is. So anyway, but if you're the
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  Speaker 3: teams that voted against it, or should I say voted
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  Speaker 3: against banning the tush push, aren't you a little embarrassed?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean any team can do it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like the Eagles just have like the magic
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  Speaker 4: recipe where it's like, hey, we can just do it.
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  Speaker 2: Any team can do the tush push.
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  Speaker 4: It's just they figured out whether it's the cadence, whether
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  Speaker 4: it's just you know, the pad level like that, they've
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  Speaker 4: mastered it.
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  Speaker 3: Whether I mean the quarterback can squat six hundred pounds too,
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  Speaker 3: that never hurts, So that hasn't hurt either, But I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's been hurt and they still did it when
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  Speaker 3: he obviously couldn't squat six hundred pounds. But what I'm
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  Speaker 3: most proud of about that whole situation is that our team,
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  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars, did not vote to ban the tush.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they stood with some other teams and said, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to penalize a team for having a
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  Speaker 3: very good.
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  Speaker 2: Play and being good at it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, shame on all the other teams that voted to
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  Speaker 3: ban the tooch.
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  Speaker 2: It was only like two votes away.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but two votes is all it takes.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I mean, where is this energy when Tom Brady
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  Speaker 4: was getting you know, when it was like third and
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  Speaker 4: one fourth one Tom Brady quarterback sneak every single time,
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  Speaker 4: it was like one hundred percent, like I would have
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  Speaker 4: voted against Tom Brady on the quarterback sneak.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to vote against a Derrick Henry stiff farm.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's not conduce some to playing defense, like ban
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  Speaker 4: the stiff farm, the ban everything.
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  Speaker 2: That one. I'm tired of that. I'm tired the highlights
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  Speaker 2: over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: You know that's that is one of the greatest plays
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  Speaker 3: in football. I don't care which side of the fence
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  Speaker 3: you you lie on, because unfortunately some of those highlight
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  Speaker 3: stiff farms have been at the expense of this team,
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  Speaker 3: certainly have, but I must say that they're in first
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  Speaker 3: person watching it. You're sitting there going, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: did you just see that? And I just want to go,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, did you just see that? I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to say that on a radio, but you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not our team.
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  Speaker 3: He believes that we missed so many tackles on one player.
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  Speaker 3: Can you imagine it was like, you're kind of the
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  Speaker 3: O office. I can't believe that we're just gonna allow
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  Speaker 3: him to stiff our musk. When is somebody got to
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  Speaker 3: learn knock the arm down and then get into his ban.
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  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry just the whole thing, by the way, he's
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  Speaker 3: a very well, a much richer man too, but he's Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get to some of these other rule changes coming up,
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  Speaker 3: but OHTA is underway Monday. The first one was open
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  Speaker 3: to the media. Trevor Lawrence after the practice, learning yet
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  Speaker 3: another offense.
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  Speaker 5: I really like it. You know, it has a lot
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  Speaker 5: of answers. You know, it's it's it's great. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it puts a lot of the players you have to
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  Speaker 5: know your stuff, but.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you all the answers.
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  Speaker 5: You know, you're not I don't feel like you're stuck
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  Speaker 5: in a play that's uh not set up for success.
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  Speaker 5: You know, gives us a lot of answers, and uh
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  Speaker 5: we changed the presentation a lot and make a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things look the same. You know, there's there's a
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  Speaker 5: whole lot of without going in too much detail, you know,
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  Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that I like about it.
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  Speaker 5: And it's definitely unlike any system that I've learned before.
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  Speaker 5: So it's been cool to learn and just pick the
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  Speaker 5: coach's brain and try to get it down as fast
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  Speaker 5: as possible.
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  Speaker 3: Third offense for him now in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 3: and this is the time of year to get some
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  Speaker 3: of the kinks and the bugs worked out. He said,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of answers out of this offense. What does
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  Speaker 3: that mean, Well, it means there's a lot of options.
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  Speaker 3: So let's say a defense presents you with a defense
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  Speaker 3: A okay, but the play that you have doesn't match that.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to play dialed up for defense B. Well,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of times it gives you as a quarterback
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  Speaker 3: the flexibility to change the play that's going to give
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  Speaker 3: you the best play for that defense A. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's what he's referring to it. And I call
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  Speaker 3: that the Peyton Manning effect. Right, Peyton Manning comes to
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  Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and he's like, oh maha, omaha,
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  Speaker 3: and he's changing the play three different times based on
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  Speaker 3: what the defensive look is, and it's going to give
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  Speaker 3: him the best chance to be in the best play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, as someone who's played against Peyton Manning many times,
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  Speaker 4: like he was a cerebral assassin with how he could
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  Speaker 4: diagnose things, see the coverages.
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  Speaker 2: And then call out of them.
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  Speaker 4: When I expecting Trevor Lawrence right now to be in
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  Speaker 4: a new offense and be the next Peyton Manning, but
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  Speaker 4: I think giving him options giving him choices where okay,
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  Speaker 4: maybe that the A choice is covered, well, here's the
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  Speaker 4: B choice. B choice is taken away, here's the C choice.
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  Speaker 3: I also like the fact that he is in total
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  Speaker 3: command at this early stage, you know, because I was
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  Speaker 3: there practice on Monday. I guess it was the first
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  Speaker 3: one that was opened up. Was out there yesterday. He
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  Speaker 3: appears to be in total command of the offense. You
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  Speaker 3: know how sometimes when you're in OTA's, especially when it's
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  Speaker 3: a new coach and it's a new system, it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, woo, who bo.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't even get to the line of scrimmage because
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  Speaker 3: you're not lining up right, the quarterback doesn't have the
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  Speaker 3: formation set. You didn't have really any of that on
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  Speaker 3: the first day, which is impressive to me, and it
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  Speaker 3: shows that Trevor has been working is behind off leading
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  Speaker 3: up to the first OTA because there's nothing that's more
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  Speaker 3: frustrating than to get to practices and the quarterbacks not
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  Speaker 3: quite ready.
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  Speaker 2: To run it correct. You know, you know what I
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  Speaker 2: mean when it comes to that.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna tell you this, he didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: great day on the first day of practice, Okay, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're at the first day of practice. Look,
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  Speaker 3: it's you're not trying to win football games on the
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  Speaker 3: first practice day. There's plenty of days to be better
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  Speaker 3: in which I understand. From what I understand, he was
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  Speaker 3: better on Tuesday and then yesterday, which was kind of
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  Speaker 3: glorified walk through.
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  Speaker 2: He looked great to me. That's what it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is what it is, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I think like, if you expect the offense to
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  Speaker 4: come out there day one and get it all together,
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  Speaker 4: then something's wrong. Then then Liam Cohen's offense is way
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  Speaker 4: too simplistic, right. I'd rather see them come out there,
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  Speaker 4: have the defense win a little bit, have Trevor get
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  Speaker 4: his bearings and learn from it. Like that's what this
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  Speaker 4: is all about. It's a learning experience. Like you're not
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  Speaker 4: trying to, you know, be super Bowl bound right now.
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  Speaker 4: You're trying to learn from mistakes and get better.
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  Speaker 3: That's where the social media aspect play, right, And we're
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  Speaker 3: on Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shatter Jeff agobon Austin Lane.
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  Speaker 2: Any clip that goes on social media.
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  Speaker 3: These days, yeah, is dissected up and down, left and right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is the route crisp enough? Why is the.
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  Speaker 3: Football on the ground oh, he threw an interception. This
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  Speaker 3: didn't exist twenty five years ago. This kind of coverage
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  Speaker 3: of OTA's thirty years well, right, look just a different animal.
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  Speaker 3: The media and social media always has this offensive slant. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what's wrong with a defensive slant? Hey, look, great job
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  Speaker 3: of disrupting the timing by the defense.
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  Speaker 2: Great job by.
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  Speaker 3: The way, Anthony Campanilli's defense, getting your hands on the ball.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't we give a little pad on the back
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  Speaker 3: of the defense on the first day, Because you know what,
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  Speaker 3: defense is always expected to be better early in training camp,
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  Speaker 3: early in the off season training activities, because playing defense
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  Speaker 3: is athleticism. It's not Timing and consistency and repetition. Those
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  Speaker 3: are all offensive things. Now, defense does require some that
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  Speaker 3: to be at their best, but typically always with the
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  Speaker 3: very beginning of camp or mini camp or anything else,
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  Speaker 3: the defense is a little bit of him.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you a quick story.
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  Speaker 4: So I've been training MMA down in South Florida and
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  Speaker 4: before so, I'm in a certain group with like a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of bigger guys.
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  Speaker 2: The smaller guys went before us.
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  Speaker 4: When we got on the mats, a guy came up
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  Speaker 4: to me, he's like, hey, he's playing with the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: right to go, Yeah, what's up man?
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  Speaker 2: He's like, what's up with Travis Hunter?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 4: You see that clip? And I didn't see it at
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  Speaker 4: the time, and I go, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 4: He's like, man, he's having a rough day at camp.
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  Speaker 4: I go, okay, so I train and everything. A couple
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  Speaker 4: hours later, I go check it out and it's one route.
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  Speaker 4: It's one route that gets overthrown or whatever. And the
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  Speaker 4: media and once again I say media on a national level.
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  Speaker 4: And when I say media, it's in quotations because everyone's
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  Speaker 4: an expert now on Twitter. But people wanted to repost
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  Speaker 4: it and say, man, these these routes aren't looking that crisp,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's not looking like he's gonna be a
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  Speaker 4: first round pick. And it's baffling to me just how
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  Speaker 4: polarizing Travis Hunter is already. And it really reminds me
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  Speaker 4: of like when Tim Tebow was in Jacksonville. Everybody want
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  Speaker 4: to nitpick every single little thing that he did. Travis
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  Speaker 4: Hunter is kind of the same way right now. And listen,
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  Speaker 4: you can sit here and break down one route and
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  Speaker 4: say was it good or not. I remember Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 4: his rookie year had had a big problem with drop balls,
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  Speaker 4: and I remember I think it was like the second
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  Speaker 4: or third preseason game. I want to see you had
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  Speaker 4: like two or three drop balls in that game. Everyone's
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  Speaker 4: getting ready to write Jamar Chase off, Well how did
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  Speaker 4: that pan out?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 4: So we can't take one clip, one route ran and say, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that pick anymore. Just just enjoy
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  Speaker 4: the show, Let's see what happens, and let's go on
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  Speaker 4: from there.
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  Speaker 3: Take take notes of all the people that want to
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  Speaker 3: have that opinion about Travis Hunter. Take notes on Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, those receipts are going to come back
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  Speaker 3: to haunt every person that said anything about Travis Hunter,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm just gonna tell you right now, watching that
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  Speaker 3: guy he is. He is gifted beyond anybody that I've
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  Speaker 3: ever watched.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking.
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  Speaker 3: I'm talking like I'm fifty seven years old, Okay, I've
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  Speaker 3: been in this NFL game for that old man am
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  Speaker 3: Okay when i was twenty one years old, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: here to tell you this is one of the greatest
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  Speaker 3: athletes I've ever seen I've ever laid eyes on. I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking this guy's gifted, beyond beyond gifted, you know who,
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  Speaker 3: probably and I haven't talked to him yet this offseason.
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  Speaker 3: Likes this attention on Travis Hunter and everything that's going
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  Speaker 3: on in this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: Probably Brian Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 3: He's kind of flying under the radar a little bit
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  Speaker 3: as much as a guy like that can. And you
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  Speaker 3: know he's sure to take the next step too if
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  Speaker 3: there's at tension on some of these other guys, and
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Thomas has a great year under his belt already. Austin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, whether you're a fantasy football fan or
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  Speaker 4: a Jaguars fan, like you gotta like what Brian Thomas
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  Speaker 4: Junior is gonna be bringing the table, right because this
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  Speaker 4: is a guy who was pretty much top five last
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  Speaker 4: year in a lot of categories at receiving, and all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden you draft Travis Hunter, and do I
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  Speaker 4: dare say he's almost forgotten about a little bit. Like
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  Speaker 4: when I'm on social media, when I'm on Twitter, no
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  Speaker 4: one's talking about Brian Thomas Junior, And like how he
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  Speaker 4: looks at OTA's or how he looks like it's all
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  Speaker 4: about Okay, rookie camp its Hunt, everything like that. I
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  Speaker 4: think this is going to help Brian Thomas Junior. I
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  Speaker 4: think going under the radar like he's been going out.
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  Speaker 4: Keep in mind, defensive coordinators got a game play. Like
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  Speaker 4: the film speaks for itself, right, But from our perspective,
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  Speaker 4: I just think it's refreshing to know, like we got
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  Speaker 4: a lot of eyes on us right now because of
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  Speaker 4: Travis Hunter.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also refreshed.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you have a top tier wide receiver already
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  Speaker 4: in Brian Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 3: I think that if Brian Thomas Junior has the same
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  Speaker 3: numbers that he had last year, I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: bigger year than he had last year, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: you remember last year, I mean there was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of injuries, a lot of the wide receiving group was out.
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  Speaker 3: Brian was able to play different positions. He became almost
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  Speaker 3: the entire focal point of the offense. He became, in fact,
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  Speaker 3: the offense right.
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  Speaker 2: With a backup quarterback a lot of that time too. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So this year, you add Travis Hunter, you add
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  Speaker 3: Diami Brown, you have Parker Washington also.
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  Speaker 2: Oh by the way, so.
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  Speaker 3: Can Brian repeat the kind of numbers that he had
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  Speaker 3: last year? If he does this offense is soaring at
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  Speaker 3: a level that it hasn't soared at in years, going
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  Speaker 3: way way way back to the early days, because there's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be other players that the ball is going to
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  Speaker 3: go to, and also a position group that the ball
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  Speaker 3: is going to go to that it hasn't gone to
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  Speaker 3: in quite some time at the rate that it should
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  Speaker 3: be at, which is running backs.
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  Speaker 2: Let's run the ball a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, But that's the question though, jeff is Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: you have the running game that's probably gonna be implemented,
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  Speaker 4: but what is this offense going to look? Like? Do
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  Speaker 4: you need Brian Thomas Junior to have a repeat right,
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  Speaker 4: Because like for every Aj Brown, there's a DeVante Smith,
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  Speaker 4: for every Justin Jefferson, there's an Addison. So like, do
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  Speaker 4: you need Brian Thomas Junior to replicate what he did
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  Speaker 4: last year or would you rather see him maybe get
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  Speaker 4: a little less targets, give some more to Chavis Hunter
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  Speaker 4: and other players as well.
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  Speaker 3: I want to see the same numbers but on less targets.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, that's okay.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I mean on similar numbers on less targets because last
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: year there was a little force feeding going on. Of course, okay,
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: and the and the play the quarterback wasn't exactly where
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: I think Trevor can be at. If you have better
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: play at the quarterback position, better running game to take
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: some of the pressure and attention off of the passing game,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I think your passing numbers can be better. But again,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Brian's numbers may not be right at where they were
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: at last year, but it could be viewed as a
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: better year if the numbers are maybe slightly off just
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: because the ball is going to get spread around a
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: little bit, I mean, as it should be. It means
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: the offense is performing at a higher level. And theory
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: all around him, well, that's what you hope for. Because
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: here's the reality. There's not many justin Jefferson's and there's
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: not many Jamar Chases. There's really not. I mean, that's
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: a that's a rarity. And then here's the other thing.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: What happens if twelve turns into one of those guys too? Yeah,
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, give me, give me the top duo in
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: the NFL, in the wide receiver room, top duos, I mean,
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: I think just named a couple.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: I think Jamar Chase T Higgins is.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, right one anybody else and the Vikings.
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  Speaker 4: Vikings got Addison's uh DeVante Smith, I think, and A. J.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Brown is pretty said that's good.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to go with the healthy
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: quarterback Tyreek kill Jelen Waddle.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, how about the Cowboys?
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Now, I still got to see it from George Pickens.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: But once again, I think, if you have a good.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Quarterback determined, Pickens has his issues, man, I mean, pickens
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: issues aren't going to just evaporate because he goes to
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. Pickens Pickens was with one of the greatest
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: coaches in the history of the.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Game in the National Football League. And okay, and if
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: you can't walk.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: The line in Pittsburgh with Mike Tomlin, you think Dallas
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: is going to cure any of his problems. In fact,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: Dallas is going to exacerbate eight any of his problems.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: It's wild how Pittsburgh has lost someone like their great
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: like think of like Bell back in the day because
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: he had held out for money, right and then Bell
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: goes to what New York Le'Veon Bell? Then you think
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: of a guy like Antonio Brown, who had his best
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: years in Pittsburgh, goes.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Around the league a little bit to Tampa.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: You know, he had his stint with I think it
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: was it Oakland at the time, was a Vegas Oakland?
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I think it was the Raiders Vegas or whatever it was.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: But like didn't have his best years. Now, yeah, putting ahead,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: we'll come back in a moment and we'll.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: Get into the preseason schedules, come out dates and times.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Question is, are they gonna play any in the preseason?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: You know, you don't know what Liam Cone's mindset is.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Don't you know They're gonna practice with one of the teams.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: You know that and much more. When we return on
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: to Excel Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube, it's Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: Happy out.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: Are we gonna catch every ball and throw every ball
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: out here in the first day at phase three? I
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: would assume not, But more in terms of the operation
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: the communication, are we understanding what we're trying to get
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: accomplished out of the calls? It's a learning phase, not
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: necessarily a competitive phase. And do you want to be cleaner?
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: Do you want it to look perfect, yes, we all do.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: That's just not the reality at this phase this time,
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: in this phase.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen gets it about OTAs Welcome back. It's Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: Happy Hour and Jack's Football is presented by Fresh from Florida.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: It's always in season. JP Shadwick with Jeff Logovan. Austin
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Lane in with us again.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: This week We're at Honday Studios, the Miller Electric Center,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: ten todexl, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, OTA period or
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: number Phase number three or no off season program Phase
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: three Organized team activities that's proper correct. And then in
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks it's mandatory Mini Camp, Yeah, which
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: is around the tenth, eleventh, twelfth of June.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: It was like you're reading the calendar. That's good.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I'm glad something's working up there. All over after that,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: then it's vacation time.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Now it's everything kind of builds up to the to
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the Mini camp, and it will be interesting to see
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: kind of how the approach is this year to Mini camp.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: In the last couple of years, the Mini camp was
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: kind of like a canceled event. Yeah, Like rookies and
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: guys who needed extra work would be yeah.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And so if.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: The attendance of the OTAs and the other season was
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: deemed to be good enough, gotcha. The reward I think
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: in the first year with a new coach and kind
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: of the new structure of the organization, when you're trying
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: to get everybody on the bus, so to speak, with
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: the program, I think the approach will be a little
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: bit different this year, and mini camp will be a
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: mini camp. Now, what will it be as far as
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: practice and everything else, you know, that's probably to be determined.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: But uh, based upon what happens between now and that,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I'm sure.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: And without the risk is sounding too old school here,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: like I think you should go through mini camp. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: think you should do mini camp, you know, whether it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: a first year coach or a second year coach, whatever
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: the case may be, just because I think the ota
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: is it can be a little more you know, casual,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: and if you want to, you know, cut guys out early,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: so be it. But that mini camp, to me, it's
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: really the first time you can kind of build that camaraderie,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: kind of build that mentality a little bit. And let's
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: be honest here, you brought in a brand new regime
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: with a brand new mindset. It's important to get those
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: basic building traits in right now and not when training
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: camp actually starts.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Here in what July. It is I think part of that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: You know what also you're referring to is building culture, right,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: part of building culture and hard work, you know, and
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and commitment.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So you love ball. If you love ball, here's not
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a problem.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And that's a pretty pretty significant break between Mini camp
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: and then time training camp is scheduled to be open,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: you know, so take advantage of it while you can.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Preseason schedule announced today. All three of the preseason games.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: The dates and times. Week one Saturday, August ninth, Jaguars
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  Speaker 3: at home against the Steelers seven pm on Fox thirty TV.
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  Speaker 3: Sunday August seventeenth at the New Orleans Saints one pm
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Eastern Time on a Sunday on CBS forty seven to
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: twelve noon locals, So get.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: In bed early in New Orleans logs that night.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Saturday, August twenty third, preseason Week three at Miami seven
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: pm kick a Saturday night on Fox thirty. And as
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: you reference, just before our time out logs, the Jaguars
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: will have a joint practice with the Dolphins.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And I like that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I think that's really it's always good because you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: after kind of going against the same guys every day
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: in training camp, it gets a little bit old, you know,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and on top of that, you want to go against
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: a different system. You also want to go against a
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: different body type and a different type of player to
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: kind of get your game rounded in the form for
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: the regular season.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm excited for this Jaguars defense to to go
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: against some of those Dolphins wide receivers, right, like a
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Tyreek kill and Joe and Waddle, Like, what's gonna look
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: like if Chatli's hunters on Tyreek Kilper a little bit
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: or Jaylen Waddle Like, let's see what the young guys
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: got for this. Yeah, I love that absolutely.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: And we've seen it over the years. You know.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen Jaguars went to New England for the joint
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: practices and got an eye full of how Tom Brady
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: goes about his business. That some of the greatest I
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: gotta say this, that was.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: One you were there, That's incredible.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: That was one of the greatest experiences Austin that I've
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: ever had in my professional broadcasting career. Really was watching
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars practice with the New England Patriots and watching
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: how a Bill Belichick training camp Tom Brady training camp
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: was operated. I've never seeing a more organized training camp
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: like for example, special teams they go to a special
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: teams period. Yeah, and the special teams coach Joe Judge
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I think it was at that time, Sure, who became
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: a head coach soon after, would call out, okay, give
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: me the number two kickoff. Bam, Eleven guys were there. Yeah,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: you know, there was like no trying to grab a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: guy from that. Forgot about that. He was on the
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: number two kickoff exactly where they had to be when
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: they had to be, and nobody missed their assignment.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Just let me ask you this because I've had a
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: bunch of friends, you know that were teammates of Peyton
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Manning and from a Peyton Manning training camp.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: He kind of ran everything like he.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: Was so intelligent where it was like, hey, we're gonna
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: run these plays right here. If you don't do them, ight,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: let's run him again. When you had that Patriots camp,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: was it more of the Bill Belichick ran camp or
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: did Tom Brady kind of have a voice too and
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: say we need to do these things.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I think it was both.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: You know, overall, the organizational part of it was Belichick, sure,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: but it was really interesting watching Tom Brady in the
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: offense because Tom Brady wasn't gonna work but only with
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: a certain certain, certain number of players, and there was
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: no substituting guys that he didn't want on the field
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: with them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: He controlled all of that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And so for example, like you see in training camp,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: you see Trevor might work with you know, an undrafted
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: rookie maybe for a rep or too. Tom Brady wasn't
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: not have any of that. He wasn't gonna waste his
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: rep with a guy that he wasn't gonna throw to
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: during the regular the nuances.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, he controlled all of that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, coaches weren't going, hey, give me you, you
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and you.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: No, Tom was going let's go boys.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty fascinating. And then of course later
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: that you're back in Foxborough and what he did after practice,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Remember what Tom Brady was doing after practice with the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: legs and all that kind of extra work that he
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: was doing physically. I mean it was impressive, man, it
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: was that was an zero carbs.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I'm believable, Wow, how we could do all that was
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: zero carbs. You know, he's had the guy in the carbs, Jeff.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, any.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Energy gotta have it, you get carves from meat, don't you.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit, I don't know. Don't look at me.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I need a lot of carbs. But I don't know
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, you would know you're the one that's training
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: right now. Oh and I use carbs. I use a
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: lot of cars from my understanding, I guess Tom Brad doesn't.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Isn't a big carb guy. Yeah, he's kind of skinny. Yes,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: you know, JP is a carb king. We're training for
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: different things, right And.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Here's the one thing.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, how can you not have a little
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: bit of linguini, white clam hosta preach, you know, or something.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Treat yourself a little bit to do it every day season?
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: But I mean kind of ice cream I think was
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: on the menu for him. He was talking about one time.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I remember every week when I used to when we
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: when I was training, you know, seriously, when I was playing,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I think it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Was like once a week I used to go to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: fud Ruckers, Okay, place to come on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: One day, just give me one meal during the week
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: where you can have a little treat, maybe even a
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: little ice cream afterwards, milkshake or something like that, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Kind of a reward. Can't live it all the time
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: he got to you.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I showed a locking with Greg Jones,
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: who was built like a gi Joe. Oh my, and
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: that dude lived off a grilled chicken in broccoli. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: don't know how he did it. And every single lunch,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: every single dinner, all I see him, he was his
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: grilled chicken and broccoli. And hey, it worked out because
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: he had the physique. But man, there was two guys that.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I remember in covering this game as a player and
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: then as a broadcaster. The first one that I ever
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: came across who was just physically gifted was an offensive
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: tackle that we acquired in New York from the Kansas
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: City Chiefs, and name it was IRV Eatman. IRV Eatman
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: was six foot five and a half three hundred and
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: ten pounds and didn't even try to be and he
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: couldn't lift weights in the off season because he just
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: got too big. Greg Jones was kind of along those
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: lines too. I mean, just a guy that if he
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: went to the weight room and he started lifting weights
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: on a Monday, by Friday, he gained one inch in
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: his bicycle.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: Way.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if about Greg Jones. There was one guy
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I ever played, I shared a locker room with I
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: would never want to fight.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that was Beg Jones. He never never wanted
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: to mess with Greg Jones. Man, he's the guy I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: picking in a in an alley fight. Absolutely so. The
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: one guy that I would never want to get in
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: a tangle with that I ever played with was Mo Lewis,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: linebacker from Georgia. Moe's a linebacker with the Jets. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: there was a guy that we had actually acquired from
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the Canadian Football League one year and thought he was
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: everything because he had all these sacks with the Canadian
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Football League. And he ran his mouth to Moe in
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: the locker room one time, and all of a sudden
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: there was a tussle because this guy, I think his
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: name was Danny. Danny ran his mouth to Mo. We
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: all knew you didn't mess with Mo. Yeah, Moe's martial
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: arts guy. Yeah to hear, Mo never wore socks a
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: day in his football life. Country huh, country barefoot, barefoot
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: in the shoe and then take the sock from the
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: low ankle up. Okay and Mo, next thing, you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: when Danny ran his lip all sudden, there was a bang,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: bang bang, and next thing you know, Danny is stuffed
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: in a locker begging for Moe to stop, and everybody
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: else is just sitting there, going.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: We told you, we told you. We'll come back in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: a moment.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: And hey, some of the rules changes that were voted
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: in by league ownership this week, including some players that
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: could be playing for.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Their country here in a couple of years. We're back
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: at the moment a Seguars happy hour.
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  Speaker 5: I got a lot of juice, Like he can he
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: can run all day, a lot of energy.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Good energy, always dapping guys up, just bringing juice every day.
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: And like I said, high mode or can just go.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: It's like a kid just runs around all day and
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: he doesn't get tired. It seems like, so you can't
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: have enough of that. And then as far as just talent,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I mean kind of speaks for his self. Ball skills,
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: run after the catch, he's very explosive. He just didn't realize
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: how exupposed to he was in and out of cuts.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: You know, he's impressive to watch, and we've gotten to
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: connect a couple times.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's on.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep getting better and better you know, we've
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: only worked together for a couple of days now, so
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: we got some time to really dial in on the details.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, Jaguars quarterback, discussing his new weapon, Travis Hunter,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: wide receiver and defensive back for the Jags. The number
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: two overall pick and welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: JP Shadick, Jeff Logam and Austin Lane Busy scheduled Daily's
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Place coming up. Kodak Black replacing Tee Pain May thirty. First,
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: we're closing in nine days away from Matt Sticks, Kevin Cronin,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Don Felder, June's Second Old Dominion June sixth a little
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: later in the summer. Two nights, not one, but two nights,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: shouldn't I have twain?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I like it. I'm gonna have to go to one
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: of those or two of those.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: It brings me back to like my Thanksgiving days watching
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: like the halftime shows. Yes, I felt like she would
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: always perform on those things, that's right, And then then
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: my grand would be like, cover your eyes a little bit, awesome, Yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: we're good, I can handle it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Did you make a call yet for the bestselling Yeah?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: We need to.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: We need to work on that all right, I'm in
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: if you get the couch. I'm in dailyesplace dot com
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: for tickets and show information throughout the summer. She puts
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: on a good show too, or she's outstanding. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: that's why. That's why people are selling it for two nights.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: That makes sense, you know.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I mean there are certain people that put on a
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: really good show, and it was the one the one
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: country artist that one of the greatest live entertainers of
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: all time Brooks, thank you, I got you, I got it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Just a minute, start naming names. I gotta go through
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of files back there, you know to retrieve names.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: You know, the older you get, the more files you
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: have will take you a little longer to retrieve than things.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Uh, you know.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But he put supposedly puts on one hell of a show,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: and Shannai Twain is like the female version of him.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I've heard.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I believe that. Yeah, at the same time frame, Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it makes sense. Yeah. League owners met this week. A
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: lot of voting going on, and one of the items
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: that they.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Have allowed is to permit players to play in flag
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: football competition in the twenty twenty eight Olympic Games in
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: Los Angeles. The flag football competition will consist of six
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: men's teams and six women's teams, ten players per team.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: The game itself is five on five.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: NFL player participation with their country's national flag football teams
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: will begin with a tryout or qualification process in advance
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: of the competition. It'll be held in the Soccer Stadium
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: next to the LA Coliseum. One player per NFL team
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: maximum plus the designated a national player can compete for
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: their home country as well.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: So the question I have, I think it's.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Probably an easy answer. Which Jaguars player would be the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: best candidate for this.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: First?
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: I mean I think it's I'm going Travis Hunter because
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: if it's flag football, yeah, play offense and defense, Travis
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Hunter is fair.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubts.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's Travis yep. Yeah, I mean practice three times. Well,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: it's no, I get that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: But think about what flag football is, you know, and look,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: let me pull out my Al Bundy impression here, which one.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I used to play Polk County High School, Okay, and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: you know my glory days Okay, I used to actually
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: be a flag football coach. Flag football is not a
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: physical game. Okay, so the big physical part is not involved.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: So what Trevor just got done talking about a guy
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: that never gets tired, a guy that's special coming in
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: and out of his breaks, that's got great hands, great ball,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: all skills. He's going to be one of the most
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: recognizable athletes. I think immediately once he stepped on to
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: the field to play flag football. I think it makes
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: sense to be Travis. I mean, and you're right two way,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: then it's a no brainer.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, who would be two? Is the question? Give me,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: give me a great question.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, because that the number one is a slam
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: dunk in my mind.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: If you want to be elusive and all that. I mean,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington right on offense? Okay, sure that one. Maybe maybe,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you think alsin?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's secause I'm trying to think who can
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: play offensive defense? Because is this how it's gonna work?
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Like you can play both?
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Have ten players five on the field.
• 33:46
  Speaker 7: Okay, so you can have some platoon stuff. You can't
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: have some specialization you could Okay, you could? You like
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: to have somebody that can play if you got two
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: for the price.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Of one, Yeah, Okay, come.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: On then I I lean towards Parker Washington in terms
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: of like the wiggle and the shake, because like I
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: can say Brian Thomas Junior, but like, is that straight
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: away speed is that gonna?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: The flag football game is completely different. And what I'm
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: curious about is like we don't really know this, but
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I know it's out there. I've seen it on like
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: ESPN ten, like at midnight, like there is like Professional
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Flake Football League.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: No, I mean it was something like that, but it
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: was how many did they have anyway back in the day.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: It was a few.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: And if this is super late at night, but like
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: they have Professional Flake Football League. So my question is,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: like are some of those players gonna miss out? I'm
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: making that Olympic roster, gonna have something to say about
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: these NFL guys coming in and kind of taking.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Their sport away. I'm taking BTJ. I'm gonna take Brian,
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: you know. I mean the ability to his deep speed
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: ability is something that would have to be contented with,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and his length I think is a defender. I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: would be fishing. I think Brian's is a is a
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: great athlete. I'm talking a great athlete, all right, here's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: a question. Then who's the quarterback. You don't have to
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: be super team for the US, you don't have to
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: be super elusive to think there's any doubt it's Patrick
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Mahomes because he.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Can throw the ball any which way you want.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: But then do you like Lamar Jackson just in terms
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: of shiftiness and being able to run though too. I mean,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: he's got he's got the arm capabilities, I would think,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: But I mean, do you want the guy that can
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: throw it to a guy like Travis Hunter and Brian
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Thomas Jr. Do you want a guy that can I mean,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: that's a great debate. It's a great debate because you're right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, the leg threat in flag football, then you
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: would sit there and go, okay, Lamar. But I think
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: that it comes down to Lamar and Patrick. I don't
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: think anybody else would even be now if we're turning
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: back the clock. I take Michael Vick ol oh, yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: in his prime and his prime.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I take Michael Vick.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I take Lamarro or Michael Vick any day of the week.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: I know, I'm just trying to get the fly it
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: improved and better. Michael Vick.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: In my mind, the only other guy I think that
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: would be under consideration probably Josh Allen, Right, I mean
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: I don't see anybody else.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the arm talent for sure, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: the grand the guy can run for sure. But like
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen, I don't see shiftiness with Josh.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Like I think the name of the game in flake football.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: This is coming from somebody who hasn't played flake football
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: and I don't know twenty years, but I feel like
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the name of the game is like shiftiness and being
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: able to wiggle.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine, you know, because all these guys that
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: played flag football professionally, now we're talking about, Oh, we
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: can't have these NFL guys coming in. They're not as
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: good as us. They don't do it. They've never seen
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: anybody like Lamar Jackson or Travis Hunter or Tyreek Hill
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: run out of them or Tyreek Yeah.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: They think they know. They don't know. These guys are
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: still working other jobs as well.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: They don't you know, you know, they don't support themselves
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: in their play football fantasies.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, you got, you know, Lamar Jackson getting paid
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: This is a different planet.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I played intermural flag football in Alabama. Okay, I was.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: We were a terrible team offensive lineman sometimes and it
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: was pillized so much from my big mouth and talking
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: to the refs.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Now it didn't go well. I lasted one season. Imagine
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: that I wasn't asked.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Back, so JP obviously Alabama is very rich football tradition.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Is that the same thing an intermural? Like did you
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: have to like make the roster?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Did you have to? It was a trial?
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: We were terrible, okay, we were just a bad team
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: playing for pride then more than anything.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, just to run around.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: And get a work out in the question I think
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: that's going to be interesting to me is are you
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: going to be allowed to protect anybody as a team?
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who are the guys that you're That's all good question,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I mean, if what is
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: the selection process? Let's say an organization you know, or
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: or each NFL team may be allowed to protect one
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: player to keep them from being picked for the flag.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, because look, if you're Kansas City, do you
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: really want and if you're Baltimore, do you want your
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: quarterback risking? I mean, you're you're paying these guys sixty
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: dollars a year. Are you wanting to put them or
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: them at risk? And what happens with if in the
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: event there is an injury.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Oh not, if there's an injury, shut it all down.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: Then if there's one injury, I feel like every NFL
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: team will go Nope, our guys are done playing.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: But will they give the team? You know, going back
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: to the first years of free agency, it was called
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Plan B and you are allowed to protect certain guys
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: uh or expose certain guys for the free agent period
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: and then you could protect guys. Obviously, with the franchise
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: tag and the transition tag, are you gonna have the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: ability to do something like that to where you can say, hey, look,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: this guy to our franchise is everything. We don't want
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: to expose him to flag football.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: We don't care. You can't take him. Yeah, it wouldn't
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: be a bad idea.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Just if you're the owner of an NFL team, would
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: you want to have that ability?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: I think if I'm an owner, I would yeah. But
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: if I'm a player and your chance to represent your
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: country on the biggest stage ever, if an owner tells
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: me no, I can't do that, I'm gonna feel a
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: certain type of way about that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna it's gonna be interesting to see
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: how this all works out.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Ye, I think it's gonna I like it, I trust me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I like the idea of NFL players being involved in
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Olympic flag football.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: We'll see what this, what happens with this moving ahead.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: But there were a couple other changes as well, the
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: NFL approving on side kicks.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: In any quarter. Now you have to declare it, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: now you can do it in any quarter. And I believe.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the onside kick will now be from the thirty
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: four yard line, not to thirty five, so nine yards.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Away from the opposition. That brings a little bit closer.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: We're talking about changing the alignment to of some of
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: the some of the players on the onside kick. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: think there was some discussion about that to make it
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a greater possibility of an onside kick being successful. Don't
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: see that here, Okay, I don't know if they there
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: was talk of that.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: The Lions playoff reseating proposal was tabled at the last minute,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Goodell's in favor of that, and I don't quite get that,
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: you know, when I see Roger in London this year
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: because I see him every year and have a conversations
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: telling him, I'm gonna ask him, I would like to
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: know why he's so so in favor of kind of
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: eliminating the importance of division championships, you know. And they
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: seem to think, because what they're talking about seating is
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: that let's say you have a team and another division
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: other than the Jaguars, and their teams better than the Jaguars,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: that they would be seated higher than the Jaguars, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: they weren't a division winner, and the Jaguars were sure.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: But my see, and actually I agree with Roger Goodell
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: a little bit here because if you win your division,
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: that means you get an automatic ticket to the playoffs.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Like that's a reward.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: But I have a hard time justifying a team that
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: has a losing record that they get rewarded to host
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: a home playoff game.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's right. Well, they won the division.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I think they won the division, but they stop a
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: losing record. They won the division, so then they go
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs, get game.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Division.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Now you get to go to the playoffs, congratulations, But
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: you can't host the home game if you have a
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: losing record.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Why not you want the division you go to the playoffs.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Not my team's fault. The rest of the division sucks.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I hear, it's not my fault.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Where you know seven and nine or whatever won the division.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Keep going. I liked it. I mean, come on, man,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: keep going. Division titles matter.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: The division titles do matter, and that's why you're going
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: to the playoffs. If we're going to rank teams with records,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: because the record does, right, the better team with the
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: better record should be able to host a home game, then.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Win the division. Sorry, the Lions are better than the Viking.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: The argument, don't lose win okay.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: The argument is what the people that are in favor
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: of having seeding be more about record less about division
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: championships is that it would be more compelling football at
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the end of the year. I don't necessarily agree with that,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: because winning the division and not winning the division is
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: compelling football, and seeding is still at stake, regardless of
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: whether or not you're going to be advancing as the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: four seed because you didn't win the division or did
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: win the division, or anything of that nature. But I
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: like division importance just because it's been that way forever. Sure,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: it's tradition, and I believe that tradition means something in
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Well it did, and they they outlawed the kick. I mean, listen,
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: tradition sounds great and everything, but they're constantly changing all
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: the rules. And I think if we talk about in
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: terms of the record, right and in terms of who's
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: better seated, I think it's more incentive to play guys
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: the entire season then, because we see too many times
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: where there's two games left, the game left, and team
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: want to sit players because why, it's already set in stone.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: We're good, we want the division, We're gonna get a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: home game. We're all good.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Now what happens if you say, you know what, just
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: because we want a division in a bad division, doesn't
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: mean we get a home playoff game.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: So we still have something to play for. That's what
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: it's all about.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I don't want to tune into whatever week seventeen, week
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: eighteen and see guys sit out where it's like a
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: preseason game.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: I want to see him play through. If we have
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: losing record and getting the playoffs anyway, what are they
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: playing for. If you have a losing record and you
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: want your division, you're still getting in, right, but the
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: team that doesn't right behind them.
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: But okay, say you had like two seven win teams
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: right fighting for a division and like maybe like there's
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: like a tie break already, like they're gonna sit out.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, Yeah, I don't want to Yeah, I would
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: sit him too. Yeah. It's a great argument.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, and I look, I don't want to say
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I can go either way on this because I don't
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: because again, I like the tradition of the division. But
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I understand your point and that the better the team
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: should get a reward for being a better team. Let's
• 44:13
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• 44:15
  Speaker 3: of the Indianapolis Colts. We'll get to that and our
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: final thoughts when we return on ten TENEXXL Jaguars dot Com,
• 44:21
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• 44:32
  Speaker 6: I actually thought they they did some really good things today.
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: I thought, just from a communications standpoint, punching the ball out,
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: doing it in the right way though, right, we had
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: a couple guys just trying to be intentional about getting
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: the ball out and getting their hands on the football.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: Something that we're actively trying to be intentional about. This
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: whole offseason, and I thought the defensive staff has done
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: a great job of communicating that in the meeting settings.
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Bringing it out to the practice field, I thought that
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: they did a nice job kind of setting a line
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: of scrimmage, playing with length on the D line, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 6: you know, the ball was out. I mean, the ball
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: was on the ground too many times for us offensively,
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: but hey, on the flip side of it, that's the
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: first time as a head coach you actually kind of
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: have to be very neutral in those moments where I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: kind of ticked off that the ball is on the
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: ground from an offensive standpoint, But ultimately, man defense did
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: a nice job of getting the ball out today for us.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Jaguars head coach, after Monday's organized team activities
• 45:28
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• 45:34
  Speaker 2: Sweet Sunglasses by Liam Cohen. By the way, too, I'm
• 45:37
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• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Real quick comment on what he's talking about about the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: defense forcing the ball. Well, for some takeaways there, if
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: you go back and you remember the traits of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: green Bay Packers defense. Okay, last year it was one
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: of the most well coached, fundamentally sound football defense in
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: the National Football League. And they were also really good
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: at taking the ball away. If that's what Anthony Campanelli
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: can bring to this Jaguars defense after the debacle that
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: happened last year here, I can't wait to see him
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: play because Green Bay they never gave you a crack
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: to where they would show you any kind of deficiency
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: in their defense when you watch the film on them,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: they were just solid, every single play, communicated, always on
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: the same page. And I can't wait to see this
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: defense kind of evolve.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: I think when you talk about that Green Bay defense,
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: you talk about and this is one of the most
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: cliche things. I'm sure heard it many times before, Jeff,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: but it's ben don't break right and very rarely did
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: I ever watch a lot of Packers games, and I
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: saw a lot of explosive plays. Well, how many explosive
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: plays did you see last year against this Jaguars defense,
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: whether it was in the run game or the past
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: NFL high Yeah, NFL high exactly. So that needs to
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: be brought down by a bunch if you want to
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: have a chance to win football games. I think you
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: bring that game Bay philosophy over here, you have a chance.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: Jim Ursay passed away yesterday at the age of sixty five,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the owner of the Indianapolis Colts, of course, the son
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  Speaker 3: of the legendary owner of the Baltimore Colts. They moved
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  Speaker 3: the franchise to Indianapolis. Jim Irsay started as a ball
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  Speaker 3: boy back in the old days and stayed with the organization.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly was the VP and GM in the late eighties
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  Speaker 3: and into the nineties, and then took over his owner
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  Speaker 3: when his father passed away in nineteen ninety seven. They've
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  Speaker 3: seen really high success, certainly with the franchise in Indianapolis,
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  Speaker 3: with the Super Bowl Championship, the franchise quarterbacks plural in
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  Speaker 3: his time there, a new stadium, Lucas Oil Stadium. There
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  Speaker 3: were moments of issues for Jim Irsay in his personal
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  Speaker 3: life as well, but passed away in his sleep yesterday
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  Speaker 3: afternoon at the age of sixty five.
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  Speaker 2: Locks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was interesting reading all the different stories
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  Speaker 3: from different people that worked within that organization. And he
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  Speaker 3: was eccentric, very centric, had his flaws, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: and his flaws were many and sometimes at the forefront
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  Speaker 3: of people's minds when sometimes he hit the front page headlines.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, you read the stories from Peyton Manning
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  Speaker 3: to Tony Dungee to the equipment guys, etc. How caring
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  Speaker 3: and giving that he was truly impressive. And one of
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  Speaker 3: the moments that I really appreciated out of him was
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  Speaker 3: some of the honest moments that he had when he
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  Speaker 3: was willing to speak out on certain things when other
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  Speaker 3: owners were not as likely to speak out. And I
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  Speaker 3: appreciated his honesty in particularly going back to the Daniel
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  Speaker 3: Snyder thing. I thought that was a big thing, and
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people looked at that as like.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, you got to keep quiet.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, he's got to be honest, and if
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  Speaker 3: that's what you believe, speak your mind.
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  Speaker 2: And he did. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's one of the bittersweet facts
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  Speaker 4: of life that when somebody passes away, you find out
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  Speaker 4: how amazing they are.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And I didn't really know who Jim Mersay was.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, reading the headlines and everything, but hearing all
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  Speaker 4: these stories of how he gave back to the community
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  Speaker 4: and how much he cared about that city of Indianapolis. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's obviously gonna be missed there and everything, and then
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  Speaker 4: to kind of, you know, echo off what Jeff was saying.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he was one of the very first voices
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  Speaker 4: to speak up over Dan Snyder. And I always feel like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you when you become a billionaire, you
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  Speaker 4: almost have to act a certain way, right, You're almost
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  Speaker 4: like in this fraternity where you gotta gotta do things
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  Speaker 4: a certain way by the book. And I feel like
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  Speaker 4: Jim Mersay didn't do that. I feel like Jim Mersay
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  Speaker 4: was more of like the every day man where yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he got a billion dollars, but he's still going to
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  Speaker 4: do his thing, whether that's talking about music and celebrating
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  Speaker 4: all the guitars that he had or making crazy viral
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  Speaker 4: videos like that dude marched to the beat of his
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  Speaker 4: own drum, and more power.
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  Speaker 2: To him for doing that.
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  Speaker 3: And he has this music collection as well of instruments
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  Speaker 3: that actually toured the country with it and from all
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  Speaker 3: the like two hundred guitars and Beatles, memorabilia and all
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  Speaker 3: these things that he collected as a pastor. He spent
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  Speaker 3: a lot of mone honey on a lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see the direction of the franchise,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because we all have had some experience, probably
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  Speaker 3: with inheritance.
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  Speaker 2: Tax and everything else. You've got three daughters. What will
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  Speaker 2: be the future of the franchise, We don't know. We
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  Speaker 2: will find out. Austin will see you soon. I'll see
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  Speaker 2: you guys soon. See when I see a couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks back. That's Austin Lane. That's Jeff Logman.
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  Speaker 2: I'm J. P.
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  Speaker 3: Shaddick And thanks to Brook Hoffy, Brent Reever, Joe Fortunato,
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to you for listening. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.