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The hair mineral test that shows what blood tests miss for Hashimoto's ⎸ Root Cause Series Ep 204 · Health with Hashimoto’s - Thyroid or Immune Education for Autoimmune Thyroid Disease

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  Welcome to episode 204 of the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.
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  My name is Esther Yunkin. I'm
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  a registered nurse, and this summer we're talking all about root causes.
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  Today, I'm going to be interviewing Dee Davidson. Every third episode,
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  even during the summer, is going to be an interview.
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  Dee has so much to share with us because she is a board-certified functional
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  health practitioner, and she's a hormone health expert.
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  I think you're going to learn a lot in this interview.
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  Welcome to the Health with Hashimoto's podcast. This is where you will find
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  clarity and simple, sustainable strategies to feel better.
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  I want to help you figure out your root causes. My name is Esther Yunkin.
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  I am a registered nurse. I know how exhausting it is to live with fatigue,
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  brain fog, and the ups and downs of Hashimoto's. And that is why I'm here.
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  I'm here to cut through the confusion and to give you practical steps that support
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  your body, calm your immune system, so that you can regain your energy and feel
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  like yourself again. Welcome, Dee.
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  Tell us a little bit about your story and what was the moment that you realized
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  conventional medicine was not going to give you what you needed?
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  Oh, what a great question. Thanks for having me, first of all.
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  Going back to conventional medicine, the point where I knew I needed to try
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  something different actually had to do with my son.
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  And my son, who is now 14, when he was three, we went to his regular checkup.
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  And there we are. And they did a little finger prick to check for lead.
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  And they check your iron levels.
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  And they gave us a call. And they said that he had low iron,
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  borderline anemic. And I was like, wow, I'm really surprised.
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  Because he is a really good eater. We eat red meat and raisins and all the high iron foods.
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  I was that crunchy mom who made their food from scratch. and,
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  you know, breastfed till he was two. And I'm like, I'm doing all the right things. How can this be?
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  So I gave him the medication, which of course brought his iron back to level.
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  But then about six months later, he was having these really bad,
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  intense stomach pains and he couldn't sleep around the clock.
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  Like I just remember sitting in the rocking chair and that's all he wanted to do, sit there all night.
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  And I already had another child, never encountered anything like this.
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  I had my mother come over in the middle of the night because I was home by myself.
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  My ex-husband used to work nights, and she's like, this is not normal, Dee.
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  So I would go to the pediatrician. They told me it must be viral.
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  Let it pass. Then I went to the local ER. They told me it must be constipated. Just give him Miralax.
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  Then I went to the children's hospital. So this is going on for weeks.
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  So I demanded that I wanted to see a GI specialist at Children's,
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  and I did get that granted.
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  Go to Children's Hospital, see the GI doctor, and I left. they're feeling.
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  Humiliated and I left there feeling dismissed when they looked at my child and
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  they said, there is nothing wrong with him. But we will do a stool test just to make sure.
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  Now, in my practice now, Esther, I do a stool test on anyone who tells me they
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  have a stomach pain or a GI issue.
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  So they do the stool test. I get a phone call and they said,
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  oh, we did find some blood in his stool.
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  So as we know, a lot of times it's microscopic and you can't see it.
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  It's not like you're just seeing the blood when you go to the bathroom.
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  And so at that time, I didn't really know the connection between blood loss
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  and anemia and iron and all of that stuff, right? That's not something that
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  was ever even brought up or discussed or nothing, right? So it was just take the iron medication.
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  So they wanted to scope him because they said, well, we want to see what's going
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  on. So they gave him an endoscopy and a colonoscopy.
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  And again, he was three years old. So I'm watching him, you know,
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  get put under this little itty bitty thing. So he comes out and the doctor says
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  to me, oh, we had a surprise in there. And I was like, what do you mean?
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  And they told me that he had polyps in his intestinal tract at age three.
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  Now, we know that a lot of adults later in life have preventative colonoscopies
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  to make sure they don't have polyps and they could have them removed and checked
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  for cancer and all of that. Well, my son actually already had them.
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  That was probably what was causing the bleeding and the anemia.
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  And only because I pushed and pushed and pushed did I get even to that point,
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  which is a blessing because now we know that he actually has a genetic disorder
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  called juvenile polyp syndrome, and we can keep an eye on it.
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  Now, here's the kicker. I asked the doctor at the follow-up appointment.
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  What can I do to preventatively help him, you know, from having this trigger?
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  Because we know the whole epigenetics, we might be carriers of something,
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  and I'm writing about this in my book, but it does not mean that's your destiny.
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  And the doctor looked at me and said, oh, don't worry about it now.
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  It's not a pediatric cancer.
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  If he's going to get it, it's not going to be until he's at least in his 30s.
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  And he's like, and if you think you're going to give him like spirulina and
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  heal his gut or something, that's silly.
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  So again, I was like, wow, Fast forward, I was at this little coffee shop with
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  my girlfriend who I've known for like 20 years, and there was a woman there,
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  and Nicole said, oh, my God, do you two know each other?
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  I said, no. She said, I can't believe you don't know each other.
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  Nicole is a functional health practitioner, and that was when I was in the middle
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  of all that with my son, and I do believe that there are no accidents.
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  I believe that God brought that connection together for so many reasons, Esther.
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  So instantly I knew I was like oh maybe this lady can help me with my son,
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  so I got her card or whatever and then I followed up with her and she was amazing
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  she asked me so many questions without even seeing my son's chart she was connecting
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  all of the different systems in the body,
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  as opposed to just looking at his you know,
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  his gut and she really helped me so we looked at a lot of different pieces of his health.
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  Here we are, he's 14, he was three, but he hasn't had any issues,
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  no low iron, no polyps, no issues at all.
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  And so that's when I really became intrigued with functional medicine and functional health.
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  As I said, I was already doing health coaching. And so in 2000, I actually went back to.
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  The school that she went to. And here I am now.
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  It's 2026. It's crazy to believe. But I do believe that, you know,
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  traditional medicine, I'm not anti-doctor.
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  If you break your bone, like we were just talking about with our boys,
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  or you're in a car accident, having a heart attack, you need to go to the hospital.
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  But they, you know, they're limited to, again, what health insurance allows them to do.
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  They're limited on time. You know this, you were working in the ER.
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  And they don't look at all of the systems. They only look at whatever their
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  specialty is. Even primary care doctors now, it is impossible to find one because
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  they don't get paid well and everyone's going into a specialty now.
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  So I'm really passionate about helping people not just fix something and then
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  like the whack-a-mole, something else comes up or being stuck in the cycle of
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  trial and error, but really learning about,
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  their own body, where the disconnects are. And I believe that's mind, body spirit.
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  Absolutely. I 100% agree with you. And one thing that stood out to me in your
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  story with your son is everybody was telling you that he was normal.
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  All of his labs were normal. All his tests were normal. But you knew that there
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  was something going on and you kept pushing.
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  And that's what so many women are dealing with and men that are finally diagnosed
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  with autoimmune problems, finally diagnosed with Hashimoto's.
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  If they're listening to this podcast, probably that's their story.
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  And I'm just so proud of you for pushing and pushing and pushing because somebody has to advocate.
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  So you have to advocate for yourself. If you're not a kid, you don't have a mom to advocate for you.
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  And now that's what you help your clients do. And you said there's like that
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  30% who you weren't able to help.
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  Is there a commonality with that 30% that you have figured out?
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  Is that where, like you talk about minerals a lot, is that where that came in?
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  Yes. I love looking at minerals. I geek out on the HTMA test specifically.
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  The HTMA test is a non-invasive hair test. Someone can just cut a teaspoon of
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  hair and mail it in. Of course, if you color your hair, you have to wait until
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  you have a little bit of root.
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  But the hair holds a lot of information. It tells us what's been going on in
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  your body, specifically over about a three-month period.
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  So the difference between a hair test and a blood test for minerals is that
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  When you go for a blood test, that's like real time, right? Like what's going on right now?
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  But we really want to look at your what I call vital reserve,
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  your gas tank, your tank for the last three months, not a fluctuating blood test.
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  And why that's important is because your minerals are your spark plugs.
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  So they help with everything, your metabolism, your digestion,
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  your detoxification, your energy production, stomach acid.
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  But everything is connected to your minerals.
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  And for anyone listening who has no idea what a mineral might be,
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  that could be something like everyone's taking magnesium, but they might not
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  know why, or calcium for their bones and their teeth, or sodium.
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  So some of those minerals might be depleted. And in order to feel your best,
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  you first have to have the vital reserves.
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  I tell my clients, it is like your bank account.
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  If you have a checking account and you're just at balance and then you have a stressor.
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  And when we talk about stressors, I like to point out that they can be external,
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  financial, relationship, taking care of a child, your job. That can be an external,
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  but you also can have hidden stressors such as.
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  Bacterial overgrowths and parasites and low stomach acid and all of those things.
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  When you have a big stressor or multiple stresses that equal a big one,
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  hit you, it hits your minerals and then you're in overdraft and you just can't
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  get back to feeling your best, to having that good sleep, to,
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  you know, going to the bathroom every day like you're supposed to.
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  So the HTMA is one of the first tests that I do on everyone because if you don't
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  have the vital reserve to heal, then you can't just take a supplement to get
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  rid of something, whether it be H.
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  Pylori or a parasite or anything, and expect it to work because you don't have
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  the gas in the gas tank to make that happen.
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  Right. Yeah. Minerals are so important. And then our food has gone down in minerals.
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  So you take the hair test, and then what's the next step after that?
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  Yes. So when I take the hair test, I look at all of the elemental ones,
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  the ones we just talked about, like the magnesium, the calcium,
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  and then we correlate. So I like to say don't treat paper. That's what doctors do, right?
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  I have an extensive intake form where I learn about the person's life history.
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  So if a woman's coming to me and they're 30, 40, 80-year-old,
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  I'm going to look at everything that's happened in their life because that's
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  really what's manifesting in their physical being. It's not just what's happened
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  in the last month or even the last year.
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  And then I'm going to take what comes back in their hair mineral analysis and
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  start asking questions. So, you know, for example, if someone has actually high
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  calcium, I see a lot. Why do they have a high calcium shell?
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  What kind of stress have they had?
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  Been under. That's a danger too with just taking random supplements without
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  testing is, you know, a lot of women are taking, calcium is a great example of a supplement.
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  Calcium, because their doctor tells them they have to be careful of bone loss and all of these things.
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  But the reality is for calcium, if you're under a lot of stress,
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  which most of my clients are, even if they deny it, they can be creating what
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  we call a calcium shell. Have you heard of this, Sester? I have not, no.
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  So a calcium shell is where your body perceives threat.
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  So you might think, oh, I'm fine, you know, with my four kids and my business
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  and my husband and running around all day and maybe skipped a meal here and
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  there, but I'm good, right?
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  But your body is like, no, you're not good.
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  So what it starts to do is it starts to pull calcium out of your bones,
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  your hair, your teeth, your nails, and it starts to create what we call a calcium
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  shell. It's like a bullet shell around every single cell in your body.
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  And so that's the first marker that I look at on the test. That's how it's lined up.
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  And so if you have a calcium shell, likely a lot of your other minerals are
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  going to be tanked because you have this hardening around your cells,
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  and anything you eat or drink, it's trying to get through that and it doesn't
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  penetrate very well. But calcium shells are.
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  A big thing that I see on there. And then I look at the other minerals and I look at each function.
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  So like magnesium for rest and relax and sleep. If someone's telling me they're
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  having sleep issues and they're losing magnesium or they don't have enough,
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  we're going to have to look at that.
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  We're going to look at cobalt for stomach acid. So, you know,
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  I know all the little clues to look for.
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  If someone tells me they're getting bloated, they probably don't have the stomach
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  acid to break down food properly and that's why they get in that that bloat
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  so cobalt's associated with that,
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  you know the sodium potassium thing is big for people with anxiety or heart
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  palpitations a lot of people just think i have anxiety but their minerals are
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  off balance or or completely depleted those are your electrical signs there,
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  so i look at all of the the main ones there are about 10 or 12 of them and then
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  the part that i really love is,
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  at the bottom it tells me what's stressing at your body out the most.
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  We look at some ratios and I describe it as taking your car to one of those
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  diagnostic machines where they hook up your car and then this report comes out
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  and you're like, oh yeah, you know, you need a new bop, bop,
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  bop or this screw's loose or cracked.
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  It gives me a great idea of what hidden stressors are, what's really stressing your body out the most.
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  Internally is. And those markers, they do not lie. And when I have conversations
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  with people, they cannot lie to me. They might tell me that they're not stressed
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  or, oh, no, this is fine, or I balance my blood sugar.
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  But the markers on there are amazing and they tell a lot. The first one is,
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  are you stuck in fight or flight?
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  That's a big one. So many women are stuck in fight or flight.
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  They think that they can be super mom, super boss, multitask.
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  You know this with auto autoimmune because I have a lot of autoimmune clients.
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  That's one of the biggest things that I see with autoimmune clients is they're
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  stuck in fight or flight.
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  They're people pleasers. These are the things we have to talk about,
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  not just taking supplements, but where is your life out of whack,
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  out of balance? Where are you serving everyone and everything, but not yourself?
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  And how do we get you more into parasympathetic and not sympathetic dominant
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  where you can be in a state of healing, rest and digest properly.
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  So that marker, I see a lot of times people are stuck in fight or flight.
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  And that's not going to be take a supplement. That's going to be slowing down,
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  boundaries, breath work, nervous system regulation, all of those things. So that is a key marker.
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  The next one from that is how much has fight or flight affected you at a cellular level?
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  So it will tell me if you're in what we call an exhaustive or collapse phase,
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  which means that your body is now starting to break down.
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  And that's where we start to trigger the dirty genes that we might be carrying,
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  right? You might be carrying a gene that you don't want to activate.
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  But when you're in chronic stress, that's when it can tend to trigger.
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  It can cause cellular dehydration. And you can see that the minerals are tanked at the top that you need.
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  It also can be linked to things like negative mindset, limiting beliefs.
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  So when I have those conversations, a lot of times women start crying because
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  they feel like they're always going to be overweight, that they're going to
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  be doomed to have this autoimmune diagnosis, that they're stuck on medication
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  for the rest of their life.
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  So that's an interesting marker.
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  We have blood sugar. So a lot of times I'll use a CGM or one of those little
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  circle things people wear to see.
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  And I do that because I think that a lot of people think that their blood sugar
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  is okay because, again, they go to the doctor and they have a blood test,
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  which just tells them their fasting glucose and their fasting glucose might look okay.
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  But throughout the day, they might be on this blood sugar roller coaster that's
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  causing inflammation and causing their mood to go up and down and causing anxiety,
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  panic, waking up at night, all of these things.
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  So there is a marker on there that will tell me how well you've been doing with
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  blood sugar regulation for the last three months. And then I can see like,
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  well, you might want to, you know, do some monitoring around that and learn
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  about your body and what's impacting that.
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  Because, you know, I just want to pause there. A lot of people think,
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  well, I don't drink soda, I don't
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  eat candy, and I don't eat a high sugar diet, or I will eat low carb.
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  But there are a lot of things that impact our blood sugar. So I think it's important,
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  for people to take note that Stress will elevate cortisol, which will elevate your blood sugar.
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  Coffee on an empty stomach, caffeine. All these little things that people don't
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  really understand until they actually see the numbers and wear a CGM.
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  Your adrenals, so back to stress, your adrenals are, I call it your backup to
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  your main stress response, your cortisol.
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  So if you think of like a hybrid car, you know, it goes through electric and
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  then when you run out, it goes to gas.
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  So when you run on cortisol for too long, you start to tax your adrenal glands,
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  which are above your kidneys.
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  And that's when you get like the waking up in the morning after full night's
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  sleep and you're exhausted.
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  That's when you're having the afternoon crash where you're reaching for coffee.
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  That's where you're exhausted after your workout. So we look at how much,
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  how long have you been taxing your body with this stress and how are your adrenals?
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  We can look at your hormone balance. So instead of spending $400 on a Dutch hormone test,
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  even though I have an advanced certification in hormone health,
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  I'm not an advocate for spending thousands of dollars on tests unless we know that we need them.
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  Your hormones are your check engine light. It's the invitation to look under
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  the hood and see, well, what's causing the hormones to be off balance?
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  And so on the HTMA, there is a marker that tells me if we should explore that further.
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  But again, before we actually get a hormone test done, we'll work on what things
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  could be, you know, causing your imbalance in your hormones.
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  I had no idea that you could see like blood sugar history and hormones with
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  a hair test. I had no idea. Blood sugar hormones. You can look at if there's
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  a silent infection possibly like Julian Barr or Lyme. There's a ratio for that on there.
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  There's a ratio that tell me like if you're low on a mineral,
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  that could be causing anxiety.
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  So there's a lot of patterns and it's not just a piece of paper. It's great to know.
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  I definitely recommend it for someone who doesn't know what supplements they
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  should be taking because it's an inexpensive test.
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  And instead of just popping a bunch of different things, you can say,
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  well, what do I really need?
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  But it does tell you where your body's suffering the most with those markers,
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  as well as it looks at some heavy metal toxicity. A true heavy metal toxin test
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  is a urine or a blood test.
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  But this can give us a baseline idea, because if you have aluminum or mercury
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  or lead coming through your hair follicle, there probably is a lot heavier load
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  in your body than what's showing up in your hair.
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  And you can determine based on that load, if you want to do some safe detoxing,
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  or if you need to do an actual total toxin urine test.
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  So you can also see, well, how toxic is, how polluted is my environment.
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  So that test for me, I think everyone should do it like once a year because
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  we go through different stressors, we travel and it's a good reading for not
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  a lot of money, what's going on and am I okay?
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  And a lot of people will see it and they'll go, oh good, like I am actually
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  doing pretty well and maybe they have a couple of things, But.
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  You know, it's a good place to start and not have to invest thousands of dollars in functional labs.
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  Right. Yes. Because I mean, I feel like you cover so much stuff with your hair
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  test where other people are just going to want to add on test after test after
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  test, because there's always more that you can learn.
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  There's always more that you can do that is both a benefit and a bad thing about
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  our current environment of where people are empowered to take their health into their own hands.
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  Thanks for saying that. We can get stuck in, especially when you get like an
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  autoimmune diagnosis, then you're like, well, a hundred other things are going
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  to happen to me or I'm stuck with Hashimoto's and I've had a lot of people,
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  we can't make claims, but,
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  you know, put their Hashimoto's in remission at least, right?
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  A lot of people get caught in that, like, what other tests? Maybe I should check
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  this. I better get ahead of this.
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  The diets, the restrictions, the fear around food, not knowing what to eat.
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  It can get really mental health taxing, I call it. You can really get yourself
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  in a bad place with your mindset.
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  And before we hit record, we were talking a similar vein about food and then
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  people getting scared. Specifically, we're talking about oxalates,
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  which I have an episode about.
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  And I love your perspective on that. Will you share that now that we're recording? Sure.
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  So, you know, I was sharing with Esther that I went to this biohacking conference
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  in October and some people were really like, I'm just going to say crazy.
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  They're just crazy about everything. Intense, I guess, right?
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  And they eliminate all these things. Oxalates was one of them.
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  Lectins, all these things.
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  And when I first started getting into holistic health two decades ago I did
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  like change my products got water filtration all of that stuff and I was eating
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  barely eating out I was eating all home-cooked meals and,
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  all of these things right I was taking like 20 supplements like craziness,
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  and then as I went along my journey I realized it really wasn't sustainable
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  for me to live a life of joy that's me personally it doesn't mean that I'm just
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  I don't eat like a bunch of processed food, but we do go out to eat a couple of times a week.
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  I do allow myself to have coffee out if I want to and not think about the fact
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  that it's not organic and might have mold, right?
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  Like you have to kind of live a little.
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  And when I approach this with my clients, I do have all of these different resources in my app.
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  With the HTMA, the hair test, you get this whole resource bank that tells you
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  how to address each marker.
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  And then it will also tell you things you can switch. And it tells you about
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  the water filtration and mold coffee and all that stuff.
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  But what it tells you is that you can personalize what.
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  Choices you make for you and your household based on your family history.
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  So oxalates, a lot of people that eat oxalates say that they're prone to gout
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  or kidney stones and things like that.
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  I don't have any of that in my family. So for a while I was like,
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  oh, you can't eat oxalates. But then I'm like, no, I'm going to eat them because
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  no one in my family has that. And I haven't had an issue with it.
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  Yes, we want to be preventive. We don't want to eat just a bunch of pesticide.
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  But when it comes to food groups themselves, I do believe that it has to be
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  personalized and you have to kind of just use your common sense to, is that an issue?
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  Has that been an issue for me? Is that an issue for my family?
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  Again, the testing's really great. That really helped me.
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  I did the food testing and not a food sensitivity test. I don't really believe
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  in those. I cringe in them a little bit because that's more gut health related.
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  If you heal your gut, a lot of food sensitivities go away.
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  But the test that I like to do is a Zoomer test. The Zoomer test looks at only
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  like you can order from five to 10 different foods. The main ones,
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  especially for your autoimmune.
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  Listeners are things like gluten, grains, eggs, dairy, peanuts.
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  So like the main things that are problematic for people.
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  So the thing is to really just, like you said earlier, use your common sense
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  and think about what's important for me.
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  What foods do I find joy in eating? What makes me feel good?
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  We have become so disconnected from ourselves that that is one of the biggest
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  things I work on with my clients is.
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  Really getting in touch and in tune with your body to see like,
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  well, how did I feel 60 to 90 minutes after I had that meal?
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  Did it keep me full for three hours? Was my energy down?
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  You know, was I anxious?
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  We have covered so much. I am super excited for everybody listening.
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  How can they connect with you and learn more if they're interested in all of
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  this? Or more importantly, how can they do that hair test with you?
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  Yes, the hair test and And all the information about working with me and my
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  programs, I have group programs, one-on-one, I have take-home tests like the
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  HTMA, can be found on my website, confidentlyloveyourself.com.
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  Again, confidentlyloveyourself.com.
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  You can also find me on Instagram, confidently underscore love underscore yourself.
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  Awesome. And if there's one thing, what is the most important thing?
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  Yes. The one thing I would say is if you feel like something's wrong, don't ignore it.
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  Test, don't guess. And the simple hair test, you can at least have peace of
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  mind to say, well, let me see and look at those checks and just make sure that
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  there's nothing I need to explore further and deeper.
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  Please discuss any changes with your trusted healthcare provider.
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  there. You do not have to figure your health out alone.
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  So that is school, S-K-O-O-L.com, and it is the Health with Hashimoto's community.
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  I'll see you next time on the Health with Hashimoto's podcast.