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- Jason Burk 0:00 Hi guys, welcome back to the show. How you going? It's been a while since you've been here, so we're happy to have you back. Andrew Canion 0:08 Your your, um, your insertion last week was amazing, by the way. Like you really added value to the show. Yeah? Yeah. I tend to say that I add value anywhere that I'm present. That's beautiful. Except I guess I wasn't present, so I guess I didn't add any value. Usually, the downloads that episode, though, wow, it's really taken off. I got a lot of emails saying, never come back. But I thought, You know what? I'm not going to do that. I'm coming back. I'm going to try for a comeback and see if, see if I can win the people back, which means I won't be able to talk task management. No more task management talking you can. You'll just be shut down or ignored. Martin Feld 0:47 Yeah, but you know what your your appearance, Jason, or your lack of an appearance. It kind of reminded me. Have you ever been into like a museum or gallery of contemporary art and you come across that section that has minimalist paintings of just one color, right? And people go, What's all that about? You know, like, why would that's that's not art. And you go, no, no, it's the texture, or it's the fine grain or the details. There it was like in your absence, in that minimalist nothing chapter. It spoke volumes. It was deep. It was more of a comment on your role in the show than your abs. You know what I mean? It was, it was, it was multi layered. I don't know you just kind of, if you listen really, really hard to the nothing, just like staring into one of those squares of cream paint, it'll open up doors in your mind, I promise you. So the lack of content is, the content is what you're saying, absolutely, okay, yep. Well, that's good. That's very deep. Martin Feld 1:39 Happy to help. That's why I'm here. I'm here to elevate this shot. Jason Burk 1:56 Well, I'm happy to see you both in my weird circumstance, but I think it's all working. If people are hearing this, then it's all working correctly, Speaker 1 2:06 because I am on an iPad, so who knows what's gonna happen, but I think it's like a Luke Skywalker on the Death Star, like, speaking into the com link. Yeah, yeah. I Yeah. So there's always this, like, you can't record podcasts from an iPad and like, I don't know, it seems fine to me. Jason Burk 2:26 It's working as well as I would expect. I have, I've got a call going. I can see you both. I've got my notes. I've got a recording going. That's lossless wave. Andrew Canion 2:37 Yeah. Seems, seems good to me. You have cracked the code. I just, I just, I just hope you do at the end of this conversation, attack the calm panel with a blaster. Well, I think you have to. I think that's the only way to end the recording, really. Andrew Canion 2:51 So that's my that's my setup. And then I think the other odd thing is that I'm a little dismayed that I assume that the last recording of Andrew in a bed was the one where I wasn't here and I missed it because he's not pretty hot and heavy. Yeah, it was sultry. It was steamy. Any minute, any inappropriate word you can think of, it's what I had to look at visually, yeah, yeah, I bet Look, that's correct. That's right. My ghetto studio is slowly being unhetoized. I'm actually at a desk, which will be the permanent desk. I'm not sure the setup is completely permanent yet. I'm still talking into the old USB microphone, which I might keep. I might I thinking I'm going to simplify the setup. I may not go back to an audio interface at all. I may just live the USB lifestyle. Okay, and the simple microphone from this point forward, we'll see. But, um, yeah, back at, back at the desk, it's, it's weird to be sitting up, but I am still in my pajamas due to the early recording time, so I like to think I'm bringing a little bit of bedtime to the desk. It's weird to be sitting up. Martin Feld 4:02 Well, welcome back to the land of the sitting. It's the colors disappearing from Andrews face. You can see the blood draining from gravity. It's like, Andrew Canion 4:12 so, yeah. So maybe the show is getting back to normality. Well, I like the idea of you switching to a simplified setup, but I think it's pretty clear that that's not going to last. I mean, that'll be two weeks. Next time, it'll be completely different setup. I'm very sure of that. Oh, I'm sure. The only thing we can be sure about is that Martin setup will not change, no. Same. It's the same. Speaking of setups, also referral code, Kenyon dot, blog, slash, save, set app, but I'm talking set up. Andrew Canion 4:44 It's been a year since Jules the defaults it has, and I saw a blog post I intend to get back to it through a commenting system, somebody looking back at their default situation one year on. So it's interesting. Yeah. Andrew Canion 5:00 A year ago, a year dual defaults. Episode 97 I can't believe that now we're at 124 Speaker 2 5:06 we will revisit it in some way. I think it's a good idea. That was, that was worldwide news, that was just that was everywhere. You couldn't, you couldn't turn a corner without seeing dual the defaults. Episode 97 Well, I mean, Jason, you are in Japan right now. What have people been saying on the streets? What vibe Have you been getting? They're still talking about it. I see T shirts. I see artwork. You don't see a lot of graffiti here, but there's episode 97 graffiti with with QR codes going directly to listen. It's really all that's happening here. If you go to like Shinjuku and look at the big cat screen thing. It's just episode 97 everywhere. So the year on that, they can't get enough, actually, you know, the more I look at you, Jason in this window, and, you know, really taking your image and the fact that you're in Japan, you know, Chris Nichols, you know, like Chris and Jordan from petapixel and camera store and DP review and all of that stuff. Have you seen that? Like, they've got that shirt for the brother beard, like his kind of silhouette, yeah? Face thing, yeah. Apparently that's a big thing in Japan, because they call him brother beard. That's what it's translated to. Looking at you, I feel like we need some sort of Japanese merch equivalent, because you've got a bit of this kind of quaffed hair and, you know, refined facial hair thing going, Okay, I'm not saying you should steal brother beard, but it almost seems like there's a missed opportunity you got, you know, massive jewel of the defaults news over in Japan, as we all know, yeah, your face, you know, let's combine it somehow. You know that I'm always game for merch, so Speaker 1 6:36 see what I can do now before we move on. Because I need people to give us a detailed rundown in future. Is there one thing in Japan that you want to make? Want to mention on the show that you've absolutely loved, or doesn't have to be tech or tech adjacent, but for the listeners, yeah, it's actually in in the notes. Funny enough. It's kind of tech related, I guess. And that's just the trains, subways and just the rail system in general here, and it's nothing new. I've been here. This is my fourth time here. But even being the fourth time, every time I come that I use this system, I'm just in awe of how incredibly good it is and how the idea of a car is is just, I'm like you. Why would I ever want to drive here? Ever? It just doesn't make sense. It's so much faster and more efficient and more relaxing to just jump on a subway or a train or even a bus or whatever. It's just really, really good. Everywhere we go, we just jump on a train and we're there in minutes. You never wait longer than a handful of minutes. If you miss a train, like who? Who cares if you lived here and you had, you know, responsibilities and it wasn't just a vacation, then the timing may, you know, would matter. I'm sure, as you see, people sprinting between trains because they have to make that connection. But if you're just using it kind of passively, it's the most freeing thing in the world to be able to just jump on these trains and go wherever you want, and kind of attached to that. I know Apple Maps. You know the Apple Maps, Google Maps. There's always that like, oh, one's better than the other or whatever. I've always used Apple Maps. I still use it here. It has been absolutely amazing compared to, you know, the last time I was here, or the first time I was here 10 years ago, it is incredible. Now you say where you want to go buy rail. It tells you, okay, here's how to get to the station. Here's the platform you want. Here's the time it's leaving, here's when you're gonna get there, and here's the exit you want out of the other station. So you have, like, the quickest route to where you want to go. So it has everything all right there in like, one little one to two inch high box. And that has just been so incredibly helpful, because if it for anybody that doesn't know or hasn't been here before, like getting in and out of stations can be kind of tricky sometimes, because a they're huge, and there are many, many exits, and if you come out on the wrong side, now you're on the other side of the track when you wanted to be on the other side. So now you're gonna go back in and under or over. So to be able to know what track you want and where you're coming out the other end without having to think about it, it's just great. So I have to give just massive thumbs up to Apple Maps for that. Being so good at what it does and having it track it knows every time you pass a station and kind of checks it off your little list gives you a little alert in your little dynamic Island thing, wow. Hey, your station's coming up next. Like, get ready to get off. Because sometimes you're in there and you're kind of tucked into a corner, if it's a really busy time, and you need to kind of work your way towards the door. So yeah, Apple Maps has been great. And just again, the railway, subway, bus, I can't. Andrew Canion 10:00 I can't love it any more than I already do. So, yeah, it's like, it's like rail and train, then I would say bikes and then cars is kind of the the order, and it works amazingly. So there you go. That's my one pick. I remember when I was there the one time, the what blew me about way about the trains was there, like their timelines or their their they stick to the timetable, and they will wait for no man to depart that station when it's time to go, to maintain all the you know, because you think about trains, they've they have to move on so the next one behind them can come in, and so they don't muck around. And I love it, though, because it's 100% reliable that at 432 Jason Burk 10:44 that train that was promised is arriving to the second I've watched on my watch, where I've got the second counter going around the outside. And as soon as that second hit the 12 mark, that thing left. It is just that incredibly accurate. It's amazing. And if it's late by eight seconds, like people are apologizing, like it's a big deal. So yeah, and just to be clear, you're walking around Japan with like, your normal Apple Watch, or your phone or something. You're not walking around with that gigantic Pomodoro thing, but you flash up sometimes, Martin Feld 11:15 right? Like some sort of, you know, I'm on the platform, holding it up. This is what we've got. This is the time we've saved. No, just to stand standard Apple Watch. Yes, that's correct. Okay, good, do all the employees still wear jumpsuits and stuff? Yeah? Everybody has, yeah, like a typical uniform. Yeah? Cool, cool. I'm glad to hear that hasn't changed. Yeah, I'm happy to hear enjoying it and look, all I can say is, if and when you eventually visit Australia, you're going to be blown away by the rail situation. Here. Do the gages match interstate? They don't. Good luck. Jason Burk 11:51 We well, so hold on. I have to tell at least one more thing. Yes, we did. We did have a rail snafu which blew us away. It was weather related, though. So there was apparently a typhoon that was causing so much rain that the trains had to stop. So thinking about that, I cannot imagine the amount of rain that it must take for a train to not be able to go somewhere, not due to flooding, just because of the amount of rain, and that was incredible. So we were supposed to take the Shinkansen over to Osaka, and it got it got delayed and delayed and delayed, and it eventually got canceled, which is like, Hey, you're blown away. Happen? Yeah? Martin Feld 12:36 This literally, given the weather, you were blown away. Jason Burk 12:38 Yeah, yeah. This does not happen. So we we scrambled and quickly changed to taking a flight over there instead, and ends up being about the same price. So it's not really a big deal, but it was interesting taking a flight within the country, because it just reinforced that being able to just walk into a station, get on a on a bullet train, and go somewhere in like this, almost the same amount of time compared to getting into an airport, going through that whole situation, getting on a plane, taking off land, like it's just so much worse. Air travel is so much worse than traveling by train, and that just further reinforced that of like, I can't wait till we do our return trip. We can get do the bullet train again, because taking a flight was just like, and it was only, what an hour and a half, but still is, there's just so much extra stuff with a flight that, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was gonna say baggage, but I didn't want to throw, you know that pun out there, nothing. The overhead works too because of the flight. Oh, that's true. Overhead bin. Good call. I just like the combination of words typhoon and snafu. Like typhoon snafu, Say that 10 times quickly, snafu, snafu, yeah, Martin Feld 13:52 that's the official term. We are just getting Showtime. We just get so many show titles already. Snafu, I like that one, a typhoon Shin can send snafu. Oh, my gosh, oh, title, how it's all happening. Martin Feld 14:07 Actually, this is a good point, I think, because we've just spoken about something that's really, really fast, right? Those trains just blazing speed lightning. On the other hand, Andrew is cooking slowly. That's true. I am. And this is not really a deep dive into a topic, but just just a credit to an old cooking method that I've been using a lot recently, the slow cooker. Oh, man, I have a Breville slow cooker. Speaker 3 14:34 It's, I think it's called a fast and go, or fast and slow. And you think it was a slow cooker, have a fast thing to it, but it's also a pressure cooker. It's a two in one. Ah, yeah, it's a two in one. Is it that it's taking so long to cook that you're actually fasting while waiting for it? Well, ooh, that's a good point too. But the glory of the slow cooker is that you can set it up in the morning, you throw your meat in, Andrew Canion 14:57 you come back at the end of the day, you. Martin Feld 15:00 And it's ready to go. And doesn't matter what sort of cheap cut of meat you've put in there, by the end of it, it is delicious. So yes, you're throwing gizzards in there's like tripe, but it's just, it's just a mess. It's just slop, but it's awful, as far as the eye can see, Andrew Canion 15:19 yeah? And you come and Jason Burk 15:21 it's like, meat magic. Andrew Canion 15:23 It's just cause it's just so delicious. And if you put other if you put vegetables in there, or sauces, it just infuses in. And it's so nice. I like to be sitting at work, and it might be two in the afternoon, and you think, Oh, I'm a little slow cooker. It's just been plugging away all day, doing that hard work without any acknowledgement. It just been, just been cooking that meat. And you can leave it like so if you're like, Oh, I've said it for eight hours, but you don't get home for 10 there's no problem you've because you've turned on the Keep warm setting. So it gets to its eight hours, but then it just starts, instead of counting down, it's counting up, and the meat doesn't care. It's so slow that it's only going to get better. Really, I think you could slow cook for about six days and the meat would still be good. Yeah. So look, shout out to slow cooking if you haven't tried it before. Get yourself involved. And yeah, and even just now, if you are, you don't have time for the slow cook. If you do go the pressure cook, that's like magic as well. Because how does, how can slow cooking be so amazing, but then if you cook something under pressure rapidly, it's also amazing. I look science is baffling. I don't quite understand, understand it, but, but I have to shout out. Martin Feld 16:39 I like slow cookers too. And I'm sure these exist, because I've seen similar things for like barbecues and smokers and things where they're app enabled, or you can track them. If anyone's looking into this, like, oh, slow cooking, maybe I'll get into that. Let's go and track this and that don't do it. Just let the slow cooker do its thing. I agree with you, Andrew, it's that thing of you go to work, or you're out and about for the day with family, whatever the day may be, and it's just getting home and smelling it as you enter the room, just letting it waft over you this cloud of aromatic excellence, right? Don't track it. Forget about it and come home and be surprised. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't need to be app enabled. This is a good so if anybody has any really good slow cooker recipes, share them on the discord. We have the food channel there. Andrew Canion 17:20 Yes, we do. I've been, I haven't really shared my slow cooker recipes, but maybe I should, maybe I should share some photos. Yeah, it's delicious. Jason Burk 17:28 I've got a pressure cooker, one I can, I can share with you that is delicious. Same kind of thing where it's like, you just buy the cheapest stew meat you can get, and it turns into 10 star level deliciousness. It just doesn't make sense, yeah and yes on the app enabled crap. Don't Don't waste your don't waste your time. Don't waste your money, because a what is it going to do tell you that it's done when you're away from your house. Anyway, who cares? And then the next piece is like, whatever that app is, they're never going to update it, and they're probably going to discontinue it, and it'll never work with another app again anyway. So now you've just wasted, you know, another hopefully it still works without that part. That's the worst, if it, if it only works through the app, never. But I think that's probably just a blanket statement. Never buy anything that only works through an app. Yeah, probably just full stop. I don't even think there needs to be like a star on that. Just don't do that ever, because you're gonna get screwed. And that app is never gonna have a dark icon. No, no. Stuck with it. So there we go, and you know that they're gonna have like, the name of it in the icon with the name underneath it in the label. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's my worst night. It'll still be the version from like, the iPhone 3g so you'll have like, top and bottom black bars on, like, Martin Feld 18:44 with the fake gloss line, Jason Burk 18:48 yeah, the shine, the weird Yeah, the weird shininess in the icon, yep, yep, absolutely. And then the last update will be nine years ago, where it does that thing, where it says this app has been updated by Apple to do blah, blah, blah. Like to change their certificate or whatever. And that was nine years ago, and never touched again. Wow. Although I have to say, like, just to make it clear to listeners like Andrew, you said it doesn't matter what the media is. Jason, you're like, I could be the cheapest steer me. We're not suggesting you go out and, like, scoop road kill off the side of the high I'm not dismissing it. I'm not dismissing it. That may be fine, Martin, we're in a cost of living crisis. You've got to do what you got to do. Okay? You got to get your meat where you can get your meat. You know, I'm not here to question your your your meat procurement. Clearly, in New South Wales, we have certain standards. But thank you for this. Rinse it off before you put it in this local Yeah, yeah. Rinse it off. Rinse it off. That'll do. Yeah, give it a little quick tap, yeah, just a little light brushing, and you should be fine. And that's Health Safety corner. Speaker 3 19:51 All right. Now I've got another question for you guys. It's been more technologically related. Oh, okay, so, as we all know, Apple did its big refresher. Andrew Canion 20:00 The Mac line they did. What did they do? You know, they did that. What Mac like? What did they change that? You know, this, they went to the m4 processor. Oh, finally. Oh, good, okay, geez. Been a while. So I've been mostly offline for the last two and Andrew Canion 20:16 a half weeks. Sarcastic or not, I'm very No, I literally, I don't know anything that's going on in the world. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Okay. So the Mac Mini, I should say, in the tech world, I don't know what's going on. So yeah, fill me in. Since we're a tech podcast focusing on the Apple ecosystem, I really should very The Mac Mini got Mini. Oh, it's like a mini studio, yes. Oh, that's adorable, yeah. And the iMac got more colorful, more more colorful, more like the same. New color kind of changed the the two tone this. Other colors are like the same, but different. Oh, nice. Wait, is there still an orange one? Yes, and I think it's, I think it's more orange, ooh, I think double check that, but I believe it's more orange, orange. Then what else happened? The Mac Pros got their m4 Andrew Canion 21:05 Okay, and now this is where I'm getting where I need your help. Okay? Processor wise, like, I'm sure it's the m4 is very good. It's more, it's more Emmy, it's got more, more M's than previous M, yeah, I'm looking at that Mac Pro base model. You're gonna get a Mac Pro, Mac Book Pro, not Mac Pro Mac Book Pro. Oh, sorry, wow. That is quite the upgrade. Okay. Andrew Canion 21:32 No moment he got off the bed, he got really serious, yeah, wow. All right, he's doing some serious calculations. I've got a desk to put a to put a computer under. Now, no MacBook Air Pro. Okay, MacBook Pro got it. So typically, the base model MacBook Pro is kind of bit bad, and you really probably shouldn't get it. You should just get a MacBook Air. But this MacBook Pro base model, I think it ticks all my boxes. I'm moving so I'm currently using the MacBook Air m1 Intel edition, if you want to call it that, with the Intel design the like the wedge, yep, yep, because I got on board m1 like, day one and one day one processor wise, this air is still fine for me, right? I actually never noticed an issue with it at all. So I have no doubt that base model, macbook pro m4 is going to be just fine. Like, yeah, I could get something faster. But really, really, I don't do rendering, video editing, any of that crap. So I just mainly want it for the nice screen. The MacBook Pro screens are incredible. So you guys and the price wise, like, Max, Max always expensive. Forget that rap. But I'm saving so much money with my slow cooked meat that I reckon I can invest in a new computer. I don't. I think they call that diversification meat diversification, exactly. I don't need a new computer. This m1 is fine. I just want. This is just a pure want. Okay. So tell me, guys, you already know how I feel about once. Go on. Andrew Canion 22:58 So tell me why should Is there a reason why I should not get the base m4 MacBook Pro? Two questions. Question number one, what size MacBook Pro you're going from a 13 inch MacBook Air? I'm assuming they're still 14 and 16, correct. Are you going 14 or 16? Okay, so I did think deeply on this, because I've got the 13 MacBook Air. And so I thought maybe I'll go really big and get 16. I looked at an older version MacBook Pro. That is the before they upgraded. So it'd be like, more like 1315 so I would have been looking at a 15 inch MacBook Pro just you had the other day. And it took me back to the days when I had a 17 inch MacBook Pro, and it was just too big. I would go look at the actual sixteens, because I have the 16 and it really does not feel that huge I had. I remember the 17 days of when that thing was like a lunch tray, literally, yeah, I would go look at the sixteens in person, because they're big, but with how small these things are, now I would, I would consider it is all I would say, okay, okay, okay, okay, so that was question one. What was question two? I already forgot that was the question. What was question? What was question two? Okay, so you're gonna go 14, maybe, maybe 16. Tell me, you tell me. What should I do? This is, you know, help Andrew, how often are you away from your desk with your computer? Well, these days, I'm using my computer as a auxiliary computer at work a lot. Okay, it doesn't connect. It doesn't connect to monitors at work at all. So 16 would give you kind of the best possible screen while you're away, because it's bigger. So you got that, I'm assuming base model Mac, like they used to do the thing where, like the base one had like one port, and the other ones had like five ports. Is that all gone? Now there's ports on both sides. There's three Thunderbolt ports, two on one side. Okay, so it's just basically, what kind of how fast do you need it to be? And then the body's the same. Jason Burk 25:00 Game, yep, I would say an m4 base for what you're doing is, like, totally fine. Okay. And you think big, big boy version, okay, I would go look. I think you have to see them in person. And you can't compare the 16 now to, like, the old fifteens, yeah, because they are so incredibly thin and small now that the 16 just okay. I don't think it's overly big, okay, but I was, it's worth going and looking. I was looking at the touch bar 15. Oh yeah. I would go look at the current ones. Okay, I think you need to see them in person. Okay, thank you. Providing they're the same as they were with the m2 because I have the m2 Max, yep, I assume that the body didn't change. No, I would go look at him. Okay? But I don't think you're gonna go wrong with an m4 base, because that thing is probably, it's probably faster than my m2 max at this point, I would guess could be, don't know, and it'll probably last you till the end of your life, because these things are never gonna die. Yeah, yeah. Cool. So, yeah, go for it. Purchase. Check out and you're good surprising. Jason would encourage me to spend a lot of money on a computer. That's that is unlike me. Let's hear from the more sensible Martin. Well, look over the last several years of doing this podcast with both of you having a discord, and particularly, I message chat with both of you, I've learned this lesson mainly from Jason, but also to some extent, you, Andrew, I've learned that when a question like this comes up, should I do X, or should I buy this? The only answer that is acceptable is yes, yay. We've trained him. So despite what I might actually think, Andrew, yes, and if you ask me this or that, I say, yes. Andrew Canion 26:42 Love it. Well, this is great. That is exciting. The unexciting news is, I thought I'd get a few extra $100 to fund my purchase by selling my old Intel iMac, Andrew Canion 26:55 which I've wiped and reset as new computer. But it's too hard to sell guys. I'm just like, it's just Facebook marketplace scammers all the way down. So if anybody on the discord or hammer service listeners wants to buy a really good intel i make that's been well loved. Just, can you just buy it from me through the podcast, somebody I can trust. I'm sick of you. Otherwise, I'm not gonna sell it. I'm just like, not too hard. Put it in the garage sale chair thingy. Yeah, Speaker 3 27:24 yeah, yeah. I cannot imagine trying to sell an Intel anything at this point. It just feels, I mean, it's still like, it still works. It's still a fine computer. But in the age of M like, yeah, how do you, how do you even position it as a good idea? Speaker 3 27:45 Unless you just sell it for close to nothing and you're basically giving it away for charity. It's like, I feel like I almost AM. It's almost like you're buying it for the trackpad. Jason Burk 27:55 The trackpad is $130 that the computer is like $90 you're like, buy the track pad. You get a free computer with it. It's a great deal. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, maybe a friend or a family member that just like needs a computer? Yeah, no, I don't know, yeah, just be a hand me down situation. Yeah, Speaker 1 28:17 I've got two quick ones. I've got one here that says phone choices in Japan, I am just blown away by, I think this could just be electronics in Japan in general, where you go to a store, and I'm speaking obviously, from a US perspective, if you go to a store to buy a phone, you kind of have like, two choices. It's like here, buy an iPhone, or buy the Google phone, or, you know, Samsung what? Buy the Android phone? Whatever android phone is there. There's like a handful. And then you go here, and it's like, here are 7500 different phones you could purchase today, all doing different things, wacky, crazy screens, camera configurations, things that just you would never see in the US market. And it's just so cool to see the availability of, hey, I want a phone that does like these five things. You'll probably find one. It may not be the best one, but it probably has the color you want, with the amount of cameras you want, with the screen, and the all these different modes that it has. It's just wild to see that many things, and it goes across the board, monitors, computers. It's just refreshing to see actual choice and actual different ideas for products, where it's not just here's the two that we offer. It's more like here's the 150 that we offer. Pick the one that best fits you. Just quick example I saw yesterday. I was just browsing through the monitor section. Not gonna buy a monitor. Just curious. It was 227 Speaker 1 29:49 inch panels connected together with a hinge in the middle, like a book, top and bottom, so they were stacked on top of each other that they could fold together the. Jason Burk 30:00 Could carry it as a mobile double screen setup with 227, Speaker 1 30:05 full 4k displays that you could just open up like a book anywhere you are, and have these displays plug in and you're good to go. It's just like, wait, what? Like, I don't need that, but that's freaking awesome. It's just like someone thought, boy, that would really like help me in what I need for a computer. And they're like, Okay, here you go. Like, we made it and then it's not crap, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's not crap. It was a very high quality. The displays were high quality. The hinge thing. Like, it was awesome. I have no need for it, but it was just nice to see Jason. People are still trying things. Jason, you have a need for it. Jason Burk 30:44 You have bringing one of those home. Yeah, they're pretty cool. Martin Feld 30:47 The answer is, yes. Jason Burk 30:52 Oh, that's great. Well, yeah, so that just the amount of choice when it comes to things is is refreshing to see that, that people are still, in fact, actually trying to innovate and change and try new things. It's not all just black glass slabs with three cameras on the back. So that was it's a good point, because, like we and a lot of people who listen to this show, are pretty much everyone who does listen. We're all kind of Apple people, and I'd say that generally, Apple is designing for the majority, with accessibility kind of needs loaded in. So they're going huge audience, huge customer base. This is generally the best way to do it. And we kind of get pulled along with that, rightly or wrongly. But then you go and explore these things, it's like, wow, there is actually another way of doing this. Yeah, it's, if you go to any of the big stores here, like the Apple section is like the smallest section of the whole floor. And this is like, there's like nine levels of stuff in most of these stores, but the apple section is kind of like, Wait, where's the Apple stuff? Or like, headphones. Air pods are like an end cap, compared to all the other hundreds of options of headphones, like home pod, I think, has maybe like a square meter of space in the entire building, compared to every other speaker that exists. So it was, it was, it was a refreshing change of pace, cool. So there you go. That's a That's choice, choice corner. Martin Feld 32:13 Well, talking about making choices, I'm just going to throw a choice in here, a life choice that not one that I've made, but one that my son seems to have made at the age of three and a half. Oh, what's that? I've put it in here in the notes. It says foot emoji and Mac update. You probably thought, huh, what Mac update? Is this just some Sequoia thing? No, it's an update about my son. Look, we read a lot of books with Mac, and Natasha is very good at taking him to the library during the week when, when I'm at work and they pick up different library books, and they borrow them, bring them bring them home. He loves the whole rotation in addition to the books that he has. And they brought home a book, which is very amusing. It's great for kids, and it's called foot, hand, elbow, nose. And the premise is that there's this kid who, one day, just walking his foot, starts talking to him, just saying, you know, I'm over this. You keep, like, stepping on me. That was disgusting. This sock just went in a puddle, and now I'm soaked. I've always wanted to be a hand. Can I be a hand now? And he's like, I'm so sorry. Yeah, let's try it out. So then his foot starts acting as his hand, and then his elbow goes, You know what I've always wanted to smell? Can I be your nose? And then all of these body parts start going, you know what? I have unrealized potential. And then he's got a fingernail that wants to be an eyelash. And by the end of it, he's a mess. And he's like, that's it. We're going back to normal. To normal. And all the body parts realize that their appropriate functions were the ones that you know were evolved to be, right? Yeah? And during, you know, any kind of book reading or watching a show, Mac often goes, Oh, I'm this character. I'm that character. You know, if you've ever been around kids or whatever in the family, they kind of go like, I'm this kettle, like I'm Batman, or I'm Robin or something. In the course of reading this book, what do you think he said, Mom, I, I'm the foot. Yes. Unprompted. Unprompted. Natasha told me, do you realize and I've read this book with him several times, but she sits down with him and he goes, I, I'm, I'm the foot. Mom, yes, ma'am, oh yes, you are. Yes, indeed you are. I've been on the edge of my seat for the last minute and a half, hoping and wishing that this was gonna be the outcome. Andrew Canion 34:08 He's Disney is being told Speaker 2 34:12 it's come full circle. Step aside, Martin. There's a new foot in town. Haven't pushed it. So did you challenge him? Did you say? Well, you will be but not yet, son, because I am still the foot Yeah. When does the foot ceremony? Is that at like age six, when does that transfer of power happen? Is that I'm not sure of the lore behind Yeah, look, it's actually a relatively recent thing, because it wasn't until I made it onto this podcast with you two that I became aware of my full foot status. So I think the Feld family, through the generations, probably roughly in line with puberty. We kind of got a hobbit style that makes sense, yeah. But now it's, you know, we're trying it out. It's a new process. And, you know, once I start to notice his foot, you know, grossly larger or out of proportion with the rest of his body. And. Andrew Canion 35:00 Uh, you know his, um, his ego, his foot ego, so to speak. I'll let him know that. We'll I think you're right. I think, I think it will be linked to puberty, when he will really start to assert his full footness. Yep. And at the same time, you'll be a little older, you'll have mellowed out a little bit more, and just you won't have that strength to carry on with your same level of foot. We've already got him saying yes to purchases, and that feels like the first domino has fallen, right? Like it's yeah, okay, soon Mac will assert his soul power. Andrew Canion 35:33 Yes. It's a bit like the line, Jason Burk 35:37 yeah. I think you have to take Mac up to like, a mountain, and you gotta, like, hold them up in the air and sing a song. And it's like a whole, it's basically a Disney story, really. Yeah, once we get to the top of the peak Exodus, Honey by honey cuts, gonna start flying. And then, you know, stars will fly around, and we'll go back into time machine, the way it should be designed in the Mac operating system. Anyway. I digress. You Martin Feld 36:12 actually. And we do have one more thing that I have to bring up. This is an update for the listeners, because we had a poll. Hmm, if you may recall on Mastodon, do you know what I'm talking about? I do No, was there a poll? You don't remember the poll, seven day poll. It was a good one, Jason, you didn't see it, all right, so it's closed now. But in the last episode, you may recall that Andrew and I were, you know, we took certain liberties in your absence. And, you know, in the course of doing that and then editing, I thought, we need to put a poll out. And I included in the show, no. In the show notes and the poll, and we'll link it again. It's now closed from the hemispheric views, social dot, LOL account on Mastodon, it said without any further context about our next episode, 123, and whether or not you will have heard it after its publication, with which one of his co hosts Do you think that Jason will be angrier. Have a guess, and we'll find out in the following installment. Now I spoke about sabbaticals. Andrew went off on task management. That was episode 123, in the past. This is now 124, the results were 18% Martin pissed off, Jason Moore, and 82% Andrew pissed off, Jason Burk 37:20 Jason Moore. Clearly, people think you have more of an issue with and general from that episode. Jason, do you have an answer? Wow, is beef that's that is. I would have thought that would be more 5050, than that. But wow. No, I, I would. I would go full 100% Martin, for sure. Great. I think what happened here is that everyone assumed that the Martin part would have been the Andrew part. So I think they were conflating the two a little bit there. Andrew Canion 37:49 Wow, good poll. I like that. Thank you. So what made you most angry when you were listening back it was a first of all, was a strange experience listening to your own podcast, if you have listened to it. Yes. And secondly, what did you hate or enjoy most? What made you angry? Oh, the just saying, the word on, I think that's the first, if you did a search across all of our transcripts, that has to be the first time that that word has been mentioned in the entire 123 Martin Feld 38:18 and I linked to a blog post that you didn't write about sabbaticals and said that it was you. So I thought, Oh, I'm really gonna ramp this up. Yep. Really good. Thank you. But let me tell you, Look, the point of a sabbatical, Jason, like you said, I'm going on sabbatical. I'm just quoting you. The point of a sabbatical is to step back, be at peace, and, you know, be happy. And quite clearly you haven't, you know, lived up to that, I'd say yes to the sabbatical. Oh, my God, it's called a vacation. Speaker 3 38:46 You're looking relaxed. Get a grip. You know, you look you seem happier. Speaker 3 38:53 I think this is honestly, this has been over here three weeks or two weeks, and this is the like, probably two, the best weeks of my life. It's been absolutely incredible, beautiful. I feel good, better and best in every possible way. Well, that is good, you know, unfortunately, you're gonna go back to a country that's a bit of a shit show, but enjoy it while you're there. Thank you. I will all the best. Jason Burk 39:15 I guess that's it. Then, that's episode 124. Perfect. Wanna count us down. All right, and 321, stop. Transcribed by https://otter.ai