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S6 E18: Josh vs. Lamar · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: 15 degrees, you can see your breath. Out here in
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  Speaker 1: the lake of fact.
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  Speaker 2: Breaking tables like it's poetry. Where else would you have
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  Speaker 2: to be?
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  Speaker 1: Pinto, Ron, Elvis, and the Leigh Ponson.
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  Speaker 2: The members that you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: I want you out here now, your family.
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  Speaker 2: Where else would you.
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  Speaker 4: Have to be? Welcome in to the Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 4: I am your host, Rob Crippen.
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  Speaker 5: for some of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again today.
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  Speaker 5: And as always, these are my Bills thoughts said out loud.
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  Speaker 3: It's a vibe so ridiculous.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's get straight to it.
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  Speaker 5: Really excited for tonight's episode. This week has been really,
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  Speaker 5: really crazy. The anticipation is building. For me personally, as
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  Speaker 5: I said to close out the tailgate report last episode,
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  Speaker 5: I'll be heading up to Buffalo on Saturday. Cannot wait.
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  Speaker 5: Finally get a chance to see the new Ralph and
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  Speaker 5: join my co-host who tonight, you know, he's he's just
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  Speaker 5: he's he's North Buffalo's most popular man. I promise you
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  Speaker 4: He listen, he's he's North Buffalo's mayor. Listen, joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 5: So gracious for his time, even though we are a
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  Speaker 5: little bit late, better late than never. my co-host riding
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  Speaker 5: at the crew dt what's up man we wait we'll
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  Speaker 5: wait on you man i mean nickel city wait on
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  Speaker 5: me sorry sorry sorry here we.
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  Speaker 7: Go we always bring it we always bring it we
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  Speaker 7: always do how are you let's go nickel city rob
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  Speaker 7: thursday night we're here we're a little precursor for what
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  Speaker 7: nickel city about to be us together On a divisional
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  Speaker 7: weekend game, not divisional, but an AFC weekend game, hollow weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Rob's coming up. Let's go, baby. Six and one.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait. I can't wait. You know I had
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  Speaker 4: to bust your balls. Listen, I'm really, really excited.
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  Speaker 5: Like I said, this week has been dragging along because, again,
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  Speaker 5: the anticipation is high, and I cannot wait. But we've
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  Speaker 5: got some business to get to tonight, D.T., before the
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  Speaker 5: festivities begin this weekend. And helping me out, listen, man,
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  Speaker 5: it's funny because social media is such a crazy place, D.T.,
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  Speaker 5: You always talk about it as well.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know, it just brings the world closer together.
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  Speaker 5: And like I was on Instagram and all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden I see this dude hit me up and it
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  Speaker 5: was I think it was on Facebook.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I know that name. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: there's no way. There's no way.
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  Speaker 5: All the way from Heritage Heights. Shout out to Heritage Heights.
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  Speaker 5: You don't know about it. If you don't know now,
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  Speaker 5: you know. Shout out. Listen, one of my good friends
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  Speaker 5: from back in the day. And I'm just so thrilled
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  Speaker 5: that social media brought us back together. one of Sweet
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  Speaker 5: Home's finest linebacker. Hits you right in the nose. I'm
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  Speaker 5: trying to tell you, hits you right in the nose.
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  Speaker 5: My boy Nick Del Novo. Holla at the crew, Nick, man.
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  Speaker 5: I'm really, really happy that you came on the show tonight.
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  Speaker 4: And like I said, man, I'm really.
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  Speaker 5: Really happy that we reconnected because it's been a long
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  Speaker 5: time since kindergarten, man.
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  Speaker 8: Gentlemen, thank you so much for having me. Rob, DT,
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  Speaker 8: pleasure to meet you. Long-time listener. Excited to be here
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  Speaker 8: and get into this dogfight.
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  Speaker 3: Of a matchup.
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  Speaker 4: It really is, man. It is a big-time dogfight.
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  Speaker 5: And DT, you know, I wanted to get your thoughts
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  Speaker 5: on it quickly because of the fact that before we
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  Speaker 5: get into the X's and O's and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 5: this is just.
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  Speaker 4: The reason I named the episode the way that I
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  Speaker 4: did DT.
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  Speaker 5: This is Josh versus Lamar. I understand that they don't
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  Speaker 5: actually physically play each other on the field, but this.
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  Speaker 4: Is a big, big matchup.
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  Speaker 5: And we know how polarizing both of them are, especially
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  Speaker 5: on Bill's Twitter. You see it on social media. It's
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  Speaker 5: just always compared to each other. Obviously, same draft class.
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  Speaker 5: DT Ravens fans don't like us. We don't like Ravens fans.
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  Speaker 5: They're always defending their guy. We're defending our guy. This is,
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't get much sweeter than this, man. This is,
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  Speaker 5: this is a big time primetime matchup, man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, hold on. You muted DT. Come on DT.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, all right.
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  Speaker 7: The one thing we do got is four on one
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  Speaker 7: against shot as Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen's career.
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  Speaker 2: Let's be real on that.
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  Speaker 7: The one thing we do got is 4-1 against Jackson.
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  Speaker 7: The only time he beat us was in that one
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  Speaker 7: regular season game when they wear the red jerseys, and
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  Speaker 7: we couldn't get it down the seams in 4th and 17.
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  Speaker 7: But other than that, we handled Lamar. And you've got
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  Speaker 7: to think the Ravens fans are in a very similar
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  Speaker 7: boat as we are as those fans and Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 7: As two MVPs and Lamar Jackson, the guy who's not
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  Speaker 7: a Phillip River's, but he just can't get it done.
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  Speaker 7: And Lamar Jackson is the staple. Here we are in
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  Speaker 7: Buffalo as the staple with Josh Allen. So it's a
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  Speaker 7: big game, but 4-1, 8-0 off the bye. I'm not
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  Speaker 7: afraid of them, but it's a very similar situation quarterback
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  Speaker 7: to quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: It is, Nick. It's interesting because these quarterbacks are so polarizing.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you can literally hop on Twitter anytime and
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  Speaker 5: get into a fight about either quarterback with the opposite
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  Speaker 5: fan base. It's interesting because these quarterbacks are, are, are
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  Speaker 5: linked forever, really, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: And if you don't think for a second, this game
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  Speaker 8: was circled on Lamar Jackson's calendar coming out of last year.
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  Speaker 8: If you remember last year's home opener, when half the,
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  Speaker 8: half the crowd was leaving the game and Josh Allen
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  Speaker 8: had to call out, you know, the, the fandom. If
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  Speaker 8: you put, if you don't think this game was, was
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  Speaker 8: circled on the Mars calendar and, Henry's calendar, you know,
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  Speaker 8: the Bills fans got Bills Mafia got another thing coming.
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  Speaker 8: But yeah, these guys are linked, you know, from day
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  Speaker 8: one from the draft. And, you know, who knows how
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  Speaker 8: Lamar is going to come out? Is he going to
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  Speaker 8: be 100 percent? You know, what's going on with that
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  Speaker 8: high ankle sprain? And what does that do for their offense?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 8: That that, you know, mesh play that they continuously run
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  Speaker 8: is so important in getting Lamar's legs going.
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  Speaker 3: But we'll see.
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  Speaker 5: DT, it's funny because, I mean, when you look at
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  Speaker 5: these two quarterbacks, it's funny that Nick brought up the injury.
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  Speaker 5: I was on Bill's Twitter last week questioning Lamar. I've
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  Speaker 5: been questioning his toughness. I've done that for a while now.
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  Speaker 5: When you look at the dichotomy, our quarterback doesn't miss games.
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  Speaker 5: He definitely doesn't miss playoff games. I understand that injuries
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  Speaker 5: are real.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say that he's faking injuries or
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  Speaker 4: something like that.
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  Speaker 5: That's not what I'm trying to say, but The overall toughness,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that there's any comparison. So when it
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  Speaker 5: comes from Bill's mafia, Nickel City crew, and we look
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  Speaker 5: at our quarterback, who was always available last year, plays
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  Speaker 5: with a broken foot.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 5: If I was a Ravens fan, I would be disappointed
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  Speaker 5: losing three straight games, two straight without Lamar.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like sometimes he leaves his teammates out
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  Speaker 5: to dry. That could be harsh, but that's just how
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  Speaker 5: I feel, man. Sometimes I feel like he leaves his teammates.
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  Speaker 5: Because this is not the first time that they have
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  Speaker 5: questioned whether he could play or not, and then he's
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  Speaker 5: out for a game, and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: he's out for for mad games he's out for a
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  Speaker 5: game and or two and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 5: it's seven games this is not a first time in
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  Speaker 5: his career that he's missed some time and it's been
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  Speaker 5: extended so i i um i wanted i wanted to
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  Speaker 5: know what you thought about it because i have openly
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  Speaker 5: questioned him on bill's twitter for sure last week.
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  Speaker 7: Well it's not a mystery rob right like this dude
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  Speaker 7: has openly said i'm not coming out to play unless
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  Speaker 7: I'm 100% and I am who I can be. And
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  Speaker 7: if you've got a little ankle sprain and you're Lamar Jackson, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: then you're not going to be who you can be.
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  Speaker 7: And if you're going to sit out AFC conference games
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  Speaker 7: to do that, that's your prerogative.
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  Speaker 2: But last year they didn't make the playoffs, Rob.
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  Speaker 4: No, they didn't.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't want to be too critical on that
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  Speaker 7: because it really isn't a stop on my bus route,
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  Speaker 7: but Lamar Jackson isn't the boogeyman.
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  Speaker 2: He isn't Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 7: He is a guy that we have routinely beat And
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  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, when he's missing games
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  Speaker 7: like this because his ankle hurts, our quarterback would need
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  Speaker 7: an entire stretcher, need a decapitation, need a broken ligament
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  Speaker 7: to not play. And we are grateful for that because
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  Speaker 7: I think one day there's going to be a time
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  Speaker 7: where he's not going to be on the field and
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  Speaker 7: we're going to have to stand up here on Nickel
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  Speaker 7: City Crew and answer for that. But at this moment,
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  Speaker 7: he is not the guy that's going to sit out
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  Speaker 7: for a small ankle sprain because he's.
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  Speaker 2: Not who he is.
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  Speaker 7: He is who he is no matter what, and that's
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  Speaker 7: the mindset he wakes up at, and that's why I
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  Speaker 7: think we need a Lombardi because of it. But, you know,
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  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, we've got to beat
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  Speaker 7: an AFC team, a Ravens team that needs to get
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  Speaker 7: back on track, and I don't want to overlook it
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  Speaker 7: too much, but I also want to talk some shit
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  Speaker 7: and that our quarterback would never do.
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  Speaker 4: Some shit like that. Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 5: It's funny because let's actually get into this matchup.
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  Speaker 4: Let's not waste any more time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Nick, I looked at it, and, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you and I were texting pre-show earlier today, and you
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  Speaker 5: told me about some of your thoughts. I want you
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  Speaker 5: to share them with Nickel City crew because I'm with.
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  Speaker 4: You on some of it, to be honest with you.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm with DT a little bit as well because
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  Speaker 5: I just don't like Ravens fans so much, Nick, that
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  Speaker 5: it's hard for me to give them the proper respect.
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  Speaker 4: And I understand.
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  Speaker 3: I got to, I got to, I got to be,
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  Speaker 3: I got to be careful.
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  Speaker 8: What do you think about this matchup?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, you do. Okay. What do you think about this matchup, man?
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  Speaker 5: Cause I have a tough time giving their credit, but
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  Speaker 5: they are, they are formidable foe. That's going to be
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  Speaker 5: a tough game Sunday. I think we can all agree
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  Speaker 5: on that. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Rob and DT, I think it's, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a measuring stick, right?
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  Speaker 8: We found a way to win, you know, the last
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  Speaker 8: couple of games, you know, New England, you know, I
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  Speaker 8: don't know, you know, what happened there. but I really
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  Speaker 8: think it's going to be, there's talent all across the board,
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  Speaker 8: you know, from an offensive defense perspective on Baltimore, you know,
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  Speaker 8: can our defense really get that one stop that, that
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  Speaker 8: one turnover, that one third down stop to come up big.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it's really going to be, you know,
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  Speaker 8: a measuring stick for, for Bill's mafia, for Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 8: you know, and rightfully so for the coaching staff, you've
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  Speaker 8: got two rookie coaches, right. And you got a rookie
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  Speaker 8: coach on the other side, right.
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  Speaker 3: So, You know, there's a.
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  Speaker 8: Lot of things going into this game while, you know,
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  Speaker 8: Josh Allen has a great record coming out of the bye.
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  Speaker 8: As DT mentioned, you know, this is new regime now.
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  Speaker 8: And what does that look like? You know, are they
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  Speaker 8: going to really do some self-scouting, you know, coming out
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  Speaker 8: of the bow? And I sure hope they have. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, what's the offensive play calling going to look like?
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  Speaker 8: You know, with a healthy, hopefully DJ Moore, you know, incorporating,
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  Speaker 8: you know, some of our offensive weapons and getting, you know,
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  Speaker 8: James Cook on linebackers where I think we have a,
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  Speaker 8: have a shot.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I think it's going to be a real
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  Speaker 3: measuring stick.
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  Speaker 5: DT, I know that you and I love to talk shit,
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  Speaker 5: especially to Ravens fans because they get on our fucking nerves.
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  Speaker 5: I'm nervously optimistic, if that makes any sense about this game.
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  Speaker 5: I understand the stakes that are involved. Obviously, we've got
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  Speaker 5: big goals in respect to the one seed. Then you
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  Speaker 5: hear about the Bengals, and they've got the easiest schedule
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  Speaker 5: they're talking about for the remaining schedule. Then you hear
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  Speaker 5: and you look at the Jaguars who now have a
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  Speaker 5: nice easy road Titans are unloading some guys Colts unloading
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  Speaker 5: some guys. So their, their path just got easier. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know DT. This is a big matchup. It's a,
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  Speaker 5: it's a rival. I mean, it's one of our rivals,
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  Speaker 5: whether we want to believe it or not, but it
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  Speaker 5: is one of our rivals. I consider the chiefs. I
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  Speaker 5: consider the Ravens are our rivals in respects to the conference.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously the Patriots DT, this is a big one.
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  Speaker 5: You can't overlook it because of the fact that if
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  Speaker 5: Lamar is, is able to move around, then I mean, he's, he's,
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  Speaker 5: he's dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: There's, there's no way around that. He's dangerous. We saw
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  Speaker 4: what he does.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Rob, he's been off, what, a month and a half,
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  Speaker 7: two months? I mean, I don't even know, what, four, four, five,
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  Speaker 7: six games, and they went half of them. And the
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  Speaker 7: fact of the matter is with this team, you can't
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  Speaker 7: overlook them because you were just in a tie for
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  Speaker 7: first place in the AFC because of a perfect bye week, right?
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  Speaker 7: When the Patriots lose and whatever, everyone else loses, and
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  Speaker 7: then the Chiefs lose Sunday night, you're in a perfect
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  Speaker 7: scenario on a bye week to tie first place. Like
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  Speaker 7: that shows how competitive this, this conference is. And we're
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  Speaker 7: going to have to fight them each week and every week.
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  Speaker 7: And the Ravens are going to be there deep down
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  Speaker 7: in it.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a game. You get them at home.
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  Speaker 7: You, you got to win because there's some tough games
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  Speaker 7: on the schedule after this, that if you have to drop,
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  Speaker 7: you have to drop. But the, the, the fact is Rob,
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  Speaker 7: like we got to win these games. The one seed
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  Speaker 7: we've never gotten is, and we have just tied for
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  Speaker 7: the one seed on a week that we didn't play
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  Speaker 7: with the Chiefs not getting in the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: How many games are they going to do that this season?
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  Speaker 7: How many games are they going to do that this
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  Speaker 7: season when they're not getting in the red zone? Probably one,
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  Speaker 7: and it was last week. So we're not getting that
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  Speaker 7: lucky again, right? And that's why you've got to win
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  Speaker 7: these games against Baltimore, 1 p.m. Eastern, at home, in
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  Speaker 7: a team that, yes, Lamar is back, and he's fresh,
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  Speaker 7: and he has fresh legs, and he's dangerous, but... It's
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  Speaker 7: a game you have to win because down the stretch,
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  Speaker 7: you just tied the team that you need the one
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  Speaker 7: seed for when you weren't playing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true. Now, let's break it down.
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  Speaker 5: it up to Nick first. Our guest, DT, let's go.
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  Speaker 5: It was offense against this Ravens defense. It's funny because, Nick,
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  Speaker 5: I was on a Twitter space earlier today with a
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  Speaker 5: couple of Ravens fans.
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  Speaker 4: They're worried about their defense. almost just as much as ours.
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  Speaker 5: Now, it's hard to be more worried than us about
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  Speaker 5: our defense because we've been such a sieve lately. But listen,
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  Speaker 5: Ravens fans are not confident in their defense.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, they give.
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  Speaker 5: Up 35 second-half points last week to a division rival
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  Speaker 5: in Cincinnati. Didn't really see that coming. That was crazy
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: to see. Listen, they've given up the most second-half points
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: of any team in the entire.
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: League, Nick, this year.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see how their defense handles our
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: offense this How do you see that matchup, Bill's offense
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: against this Ravens defense?
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: Because they're a little bit concerned about their defense.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think you're spot on, Rob.
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: You know, with them giving up, you know, some second
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: half points. You know, they're ranked 16 in passing yards allowed.
• 15:41
  Speaker 8: You know, that's right around 229 passing yards per game.
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: I think the key question is going to be, you know,
• 15:46
  Speaker 8: looking at the injury report, right? You got Roquan Smith,
• 15:50
  Speaker 8: you know, on the injury report. You got Hamilton on
• 15:51
  Speaker 8: the injury report, you know, what's really going on there,
• 15:54
  Speaker 8: what's happening there, and can the Bills take advantage of that, right?
• 15:57
  Speaker 8: I kind of mentioned, you know, James Cook out of
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: the backfield, you know, really engaging your tight end passing game,
• 16:03
  Speaker 8: Khalil Shakur across the middle, you know, and really having
• 16:05
  Speaker 8: them cover the entire field.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: You know, if those.
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: Guys are compromised in any way, I think that's an
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: opportunity for us to, you know, set DJ.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: More loose and throw some balls underneath.
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: And what I really liked was, you know, the last
• 16:19
  Speaker 8: couple of weeks, you know, leading into the bye, was
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: the RB number two. And you and I have been
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: talking about it, you know, via text. The screen game
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: has been, you know, something of a revelation in this
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: Joe Brady offense. So I think that's some areas that
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: we can attack. You're going to have to, you know,
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: move that cover to shell back with some speed and
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: really have some, you know, some play calls set up
• 16:41
  Speaker 8: for Kincaid and Shakir and James Cook out of the backfield.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's where I think they can attack.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: DT, what do you think when you look at this matchup?
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: Because for me, when I look at it, I, you know,
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: I echo what Nick is talking about for sure with
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: the screen game. I want to see, I want to
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: see if Joe Brady has, has learned anything in this,
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: in this bye week. And what I mean by that
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: DT is that there's more than one way to skin
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: a cat. We talked about that last week. There's more
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: than one way to do this thing. Make sure that
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: you are putting your offense in situations where you don't have,
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: I don't need Joe Brady. What I'm trying to say, TT,
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I don't need Joe Brady to prove he's got big
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: balls swinging and he just goes up and down the field.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I don't need him to do that.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: If the run game calls for it and the run game,
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: when we run duo, we smash them in the face
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: and their defense can't handle it, then fine. We've seen him,
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: you know, that Cowboys game. We've seen him, the Carolina
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: Panthers game. We've seen him do it where he'll just
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: spam it and he'll just run it if it's working.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: If this defense is leaky against the run, DT, I
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: would have no, I don't, I don't mind Josh having a, you.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: Know, like more of an off day. What does he say?
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: He said he got an A on the project and
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: he didn't have to do shit. I have no problem
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: with that kind of game if it happens like that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think that it will necessarily be that way,
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: but I've got no problem if Josh Allen has to
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: take the backseat to Jimbo.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Let him cook. If James is cooking, let him cook, man.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I don't want Brady to feel like he's got to
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: prove something or play a certain style.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: I don't want him to feel like he has to
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: do that.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Well, it's cliche here, right?
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: It's like let the Ravens do their thing with Lamar
• 18:12
  Speaker 7: getting back.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Let them blow their load too early, right?
• 18:15
  Speaker 7: Let them have Lamar back and think they got something
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: that they don't and overdo their game plan and get
• 18:21
  Speaker 7: in a situation where they're compromised. And it's cliche to
• 18:25
  Speaker 7: say and yada, yada, yada, and maybe it's a run
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: game and maybe it's this and maybe it's that. But
• 18:30
  Speaker 7: this offense, Rob, has not had issue moving in on
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: anybody all year. Good defenses, bad defenses, week one, week six,
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: week four, don't matter. We're moving the ball at ease,
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: at will. And I don't think this Ravens defense is
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: anything going to stop us from doing that again. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: it's something that is cliched. Let the Ravens do their
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: thing of, okay, we got Lamar back, so let us
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: get a little too hasty. Let us get a little
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: too hot on this. and make our own mistakes. But
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: I think that's the game plan. I mean, this offense
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: isn't going to be stopped by anybody, and we know that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Our defense can be lit up by anybody, and we
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: also know that. But let them be a little too
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: aggressive with Lamar Jackson coming back, a little too hot
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: with Lamar Jackson coming back. Like, hey, we just lost
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: a couple games. We got to get back and win
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: one in Buffalo. Let's do something uncharacteristic. Well, hey, here
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: we are, uncharacteristic. You just gave.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen the ball back. Now you're down by 20.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: I think Nick fell out, so hopefully he can get
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: back to us. It'll be interesting to see with that
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: matchup because I think that, you know, I do like
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: his aggressiveness and I do like the fact that he
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: he wants it and he shows that he wants it
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: and all that other great stuff.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: However, I just don't want him to get almost I
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: hate to sound like McDermott. but too cute.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: You know, some of the stuff, sometimes it's like, you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: that pass, he did that Russell member, the Russell Wilson
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: pass that he did down on the goal line.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Like I don't, I don't.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Necessarily need shit like that. I need, I just need
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: them to be constant and consistent, excuse me, steady. And
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: if it calls for a run game, then I don't,
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: I don't mind Jim cook kind of leading the way. Uh,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: It'll be interesting to see now. Do we have, I
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: don't know if we've got Nick back.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: No, not yet.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Well, listen, DT, what I'm wondering now when you flip
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: the side of the ball is what did I say
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: that the bye week's for? Bye week is for self-scouting.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: The bye week is for looking at your warts, figuring
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: out what you're not doing well, and then finding a
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: way to make some type of adjustment to help your team.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: DT has, what has happened? We'll talk about trades at
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: the end of the show.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: What has happened? With Jim Leonard, like, yes, Trey's there.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I told everybody on Twitter, if Trey is playing, that's
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: a problem. That is an indictment on the actual defensive
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: back room if he has to play. He should be
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: a mentor helping these guys along, DT. What does it
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: say for you? What do you think that Jim Leonard
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: has been working in the lab? Can he change anything?
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: And again, we'll get to trades and stuff like that
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: with the trade deadline coming up in a couple weeks.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: But with the team currently constructed, what we're getting ready
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: to put out there on Sunday. Is there, is there
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: any cause to be optimistic about anything that has changed?
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Any wrinkles? I don't, I told you last week, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: thought the zones were, were getting smaller. I don't speak,
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: breathe life into me, DT.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Breathe life.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: The zone's getting smaller, but I also said, you know,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: 30 points isn't, isn't, it's not a coincidental thing. Like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: We're giving up 30 points each week, and yes, the
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: zones are getting smaller.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Yes, this.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: Trey White had a decent year with us. What's a
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: year difference in the offseason just because he wasn't on
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: our team? If he was a free agent on our
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: team into the offseason, we would be relying on him
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: to make plays. So I don't know why we're not
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: relying on him to make plays in Week 7, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: I get what you're saying, and I'm on your camp
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: as well. But if he was on our team, if
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: we signed him in the offseason and he was in
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: here all summer, it doesn't matter his age, it doesn't
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: matter anything, he would be relied on to make plays
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: with how this defense has played. And that's where my
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: problem is with this, right? It's something where we can't
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: get our head around it. We're getting lit up or
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: anybody's doing whatever they want against us. Trey White comes in.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: He played good last year. Will he play good this year?
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: We'll see. Do we have to rely on him? I
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: don't want to rely on him, Rob.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I really don't.
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: But we didn't do shit at the bye week either.
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: And the only news out of the bye week, what?
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Yesterday.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Yesterday.
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: Dalton Kincaid, DJ Moore in red non-contact jerseys. That's the
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: only news out of the whole fucking bye week.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Let's be real.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: Like, we get out of the bye week, and the
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: only news we get is DJ Moore and Dalton Kincaid
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: are in non-contact red jerseys. Fuck all that. We didn't
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: make any trades. We didn't make any moves on the defense.
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: And it is what it is. So, like, I don't
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: know what you can expect differently from what we've seen
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: in the first seven weeks. But this is what we're
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: going to get. I don't think a couple days off.
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: It's not like they were in the facility. These boys
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: were out playing golf in Cancun. They were out on
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: a week. They were having a bye week. They were
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: getting a rest. And we need a rest. The boys
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: need a rest. And I'm not saying they can't get it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: But I don't think we've gained anything more from this week.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Because there was no trades made. There was nothing made.
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: The only news is Dalton Kincaid and DJ Moore in
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: red non-contact jerseys.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Nick, make me feel better. DT is not doing a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: good job. Make me feel better. Is there anything?
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Again, I understand DT's frustration. We'll talk about Brandon Bean
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: to end the show. Is there anything that Jim Leonard
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: could have done throughout this offseason, throughout this bye week to, I.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Don't know, change a wrinkle?
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know. DT makes a lot of valid points.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I don't know what can change, but make me feel better, man.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Please.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm driving up a long way.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Make me feel better.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: To DT's point, I'm kind of in that same camp.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: There's not a lot to do over a bye week.
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: You bring Trey White in. You hope he can be
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: in the ear of Max and help him out like
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: he did last year on the field and try and
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: see things the same way.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: But to be honest, I think IGB is outplaying him anyways.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: He is.
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: It's a veteran presence in the locker room, but I
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: don't foresee any wrinkles per se. I think they're going
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: to simplify some things. They're going to have to come
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: up with some simulated pressures, something different than what they've
• 24:28
  Speaker 8: done the last several games to confuse Lamar and hopefully
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: have Benford. I think he had a great showing before
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: the bye. I'm doing some shadowing, you know, on the
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: tight end from Vegas.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: So, you know, maybe, maybe if, you know, if you
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: put them on day flowers or yeah, you can, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: can mitigate that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: But I don't know, man. I don't know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: He's tough.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't have, I'm in DT's camp here.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Oh man. DT. I don't, I don't know, man.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: You mentioned the name. That's frightening in respects to say flowers.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: Cause that guy, I mean, he's, you know, he can,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: he can ruin a game plan quickly because of his speed.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: the way his ability to take the top off the defense,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: it could get ugly quickly. So neither of you want
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: to help me feel better.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: No problem.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: To hell with both of you. I'm going to just
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: try to find a way to just believe and believe
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: that there's got to be maybe something different. Now, one positive,
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: and we all can speak to it, the defensive line
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: is creating pressure. We can all say that. Now, they
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: haven't necessarily gotten home. I think that 91 helps that
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: at Oliver. If he comes back this week and he
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: looks like he should be tracking that way, he was
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: at practice today. That helps Rousseau. You wonder why Rousseau
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: has been quiet the last couple weeks? I think it's
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: a direct correlation to the fact that Ed Oliver has
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: been out. So I think with Ed back, that'll help.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Deion Walker, we know he's a beast. We know those
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: three definitely have their, you know, they've got a chance
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to make some noise. And then again, I think that
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Nick is right in respect to simulated pressure. What happened
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: to that five-man front where you don't know what's going on,
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: you don't know who's coming, stuff like that?
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen too much of that. I see a
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: lot of four-man pressures.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: I haven't seen too much disguising and stuff like that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I know that Jim Leonard is a disciple of Rex Ryan.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: So I don't know. Maybe he doesn't have the horses
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: like he tried to say. So we'll see about that. Now,
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: as we transition, DT kind of stole my thunder on it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I think that Brandon Bean must make a trade.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: It was funny because I was listening to GR and
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: they're talking about offense and this. And I'm like, we're
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: the number one offense in the league. Like we're top
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: three in almost every category. Why do we want a receiver?
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: BTJ or what? Like, I don't, that's not even on
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: my radar. Can a move help, DT? Can a move help?
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: And let's just keep it fun. You know we keep
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: it real here at Nickel City Recruit. Can a linebacker
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: coming in, can a safety coming in really help? I
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: think that it can, but I was listening to GR
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: for a quick minute earlier today, and Shope's like, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: it doesn't matter if you bring in anybody. I don't
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: know if it's going to matter on defense. I beg
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: to differ.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I think that a defensive addition can help. I do.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: How does it hurt?
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: How does it hurt?
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I couldn't imagine. How does Buda.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Baker do when James Hurt or Zach Braun or whatever
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: the main names are? We talk about year after year
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: after year. We never go for the name. We never
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: make a name play. Who makes the name plays? The Rams,
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: the Eagles, teams like that make the name plays and
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: they win Super Bowls. And then, oh, they might fall
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: off for a few years and then they're back in
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: the Super Bowl again. Because they make name plays. And
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Brandon Bean ain't a name play boy. And we know that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: It's not an uncharacteristic.
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: I'm not sitting here right now on October 29th telling
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: you he's a name play guy. Because he's not. He
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: doesn't make name plays. He makes safe, comfortable plays. And
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: that's what's got him to be the GM of this
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: team eight years later or whatever the fuck it is.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: But the names need to be made at this trade deadline.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: And it's not going to hurt. Buda Baker, Dermot James,
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Zach Braun, whatever those names are, the names will make
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: a difference on this defense. I don't think it's going
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: to happen, but the names will make a difference. You
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: say it won't make a difference. It can't get worse.
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: It will make a difference.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Nick, can Brandon Bean do something to help affect this defense? Again,
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: I don't think that we need offensive help. I was
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: not worried about Marvin Harrison Jr.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: And all that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: Like, I don't give a fuck about none of that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: I want to help this defense just get serviceable, just
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: get like to middle of the pack, Nick. And then
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: if we get to the middle of the pack, maybe
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: we can, we can be, you know, always to the Lombardi.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Like I, I really do feel that way.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Rob.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Okay. You are there. You're frozen, but I can hear you.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yep. I, I, I agree wholeheartedly with, with what,
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: what DT said.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: So, you know, we do need to name, we need
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: a field general out there.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: Too many times the last, you know, four or five games,
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: We got linebackers looking back at the safety. Safety's looking
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: at the corners. No one knows what's going and what happens.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: The ball snapped. And, you know, these quarterbacks getting the
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: ball out of their hands in two point whatever seconds.
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: You need a field general to set the tone, get
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: the players in the right position to make plays. And
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: we don't have that right now. I don't know if
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: we have that in Shaq Thompson, you know, on the bench.
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: But we need somebody, right? We need someone from a
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: safety perspective to still help mentor Cole Bishop. He looks
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: lost out there. You know, Jordan Poyer came in last year,
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: really settled things down from a defensive perspective. And that's
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: when he was playing his best ball, right, was when
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: he had a veteran next to him. You know, so
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: maybe this is, you know, this is the time to
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: do it. You know, and DT was spot on with
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: some of those names, right, of getting those field generals,
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: you know, whether it's a big name or, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: someone we're not thinking of.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Of really getting them in and solidifying the defense.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Oh man. I see. Okay.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Well then here, here's okay. If you both want to
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: agree on that and be a lockstep on that, no problem.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Well then now I'm going to start pointing fingers at
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: him then. How about that? So you get promoted, you
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: win the power struggle. You know, with McDermott, no problem.
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I thought that Pagula should have cleaned house all the way.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: You don't halfway clean your house. You clean your fucking house.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: You don't halfway do it. So no problem. He got
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: a promotion. Everybody reports now to him, and then he
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: reports directly to Pagula. I'm going to be looking at
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: him then, DT. I'm not with– I am not in
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: the business of saying it all offseason. I'm not in
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: the business of flushing prime 17 years down the toilet.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: That's what this would be to me is if you
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: don't make a move.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going to work. I don't
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: know if it's going to make a difference. I agree.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: DT's right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: How could the defense possibly be worse with the addition
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: of Buda Baker? How could the defense be worse with
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: the addition of a Derwin James once he's healthy? How
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: could the defense possibly be worse with Zach Bond, who
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: has familiarity with Jim Leonard?
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be looking at him then, DT.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I haven't even thought about it in respect to him
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: losing his job or anything like that because I think
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: he's in lockstep with Pagoola, and obviously he has his ear.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: But I'm going to be– I'll start making some noise.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Motherfuckers know I know how to make noise when I'm displeasured.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make some noise on Bean if he
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: doesn't make a move. Because then what you're doing is
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: you're talking about what Hillbilly in the comments section is
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: talking about. Then you're just talking about you just want
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: to rely on your offense. Josh is great. He can't
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Every single week. You're flirting with.
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: Fire, DT, if you think that you can outscore every team.
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: It looks cool. The highlights are awesome. Man, you're going
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: to run into somebody that you can't outscore.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And, you know, it could be curtains if it's in
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: the wrong time of year.
• 31:27
  Speaker 7: Quentin Nelson, a three-time All-Pro, just went for a third-round pick.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: And I'm not saying we need to go get a guard,
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: but it's.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Time after time after time again.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: And I guess my logic is messed up because Jeffrey
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: Simmons then goes for two first immediately after. And I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: not in the business of giving up first for a
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: defensive lineman or a guard or anything like that. But
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: the point is, Buda Baker and Derwin James, these dudes
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: we're talking about is, is a fifth, sixth round, not fifth, sixth,
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: maybe like a fourth round pick and some juice.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Like, come on now.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Like, I'm done with sitting on draft day and picking
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: eight dudes. And then in week seven, Jalen Kilgore gets
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: in because our starting safety spits on a dude. And
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: we were like, oh, Jalen Kilgore is kind of nice. Like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: we don't know shit about that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Like, this is some bullshit.
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: Like, we need, screw these late round picks.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Let's get in and.
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: If we can get a third, fourth, fifth-round pick to
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: get a guy like Derwin James or.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Buda Baker, do it.
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: I'm so sick of this mainstream BS that we're never
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: getting the name, and now it is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: It's here. It's a house sale.
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: Derwin James isn't on the market if the Chargers aren't 0-6, and.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Now they are.
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: And so it's a situation where Brandon Bean needs to
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: step in and understand that 17 can't be wasted.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: And I'm not confident in that.
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: I'm not confident in that, Rob. And that's what we
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: just talked about. And that's something we might have to
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: be at uneasiness with as Bills fans.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But what's a third, fourth, fifth-round pick?
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: Quinton Nelson is a three-time All-Pro left.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Guard, and he went for a third-round pick.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Nick, you still there?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm still here.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I would be willing to put some heat on Brandon Beans.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: And this season ends in similar fashion and he doesn't
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: do anything. I just don't want to have to rely
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: on Josh every single week.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I understand the offense is potent. I understand. Like DT said,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: they're moving the ball at will. I get it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: You're going to have a bad day or, or, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: you're going to need, or, or just straight up. You're
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: just going to be in a shootout that you don't.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: That you lose. We could have lost that Rams game.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: That was a shootout. We could have lost the Texas game.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: That was a shootout.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I don't want to be in a shootout every single week, Nick,
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: I would love for it to be one week. We
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: can just rely on the defense to just, Help us
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: out a little bit, man. And like I said, I'm
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: not looking for top 10. Get serviceable. Get to 17, 16, 15.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: I think we could do some major damage, man. I'm
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: going to look at being really sideways if he doesn't
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: do shit.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: I really am.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, Robin.
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: You know, I'm a big proponent, you know, of where
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: the Bills have been drafting, you know, in Josh Allen's prime, right?
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: The draft typically has 17 to 20.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: First-round picks, right?
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: And if we're drafted later in the draft, what is
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: a first-round pick then, right? If you can go out
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: and get someone that's going to change the mentality, be
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: a field general out there, and really set the tone
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: from a defensive perspective, what's it worth? You don't want
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: to waste Josh Allen's prime. Everyone's pounding their fists here
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: in Western New York and across the country of wasting
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: his prime. I think now it's time to pull the trigger.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: We got the offensive weapons. We're scoring upwards of 30
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: points every week. We need a field general out there
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: that can help set the tone.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay. No problem.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: We're going to end on a positive because I don't
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: want to talk about Brandon Bean anymore. And we've got
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: two more weeks, so we'll figure it out in that respect. Again,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: my final stance is that I'm going to be looking
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: at him sideways. There is no more room for him
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: to hide. McDermott is gone. The entire spotlight is now
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: on Brandon Bean. It's your fucking show. You're now the president.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You got a promotion out of this thing. I'm going
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: to look for him. to be making a move and
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: if he doesn't in these next couple weeks then um
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: he'll draw my ire for sure because i i think
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: that it can help and dt's absolutely right about that
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: it cannot it cannot possibly hurt uh this defense is
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: garbage so it cannot hurt all right fellas um listen
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  Speaker 4: DT, you already know. I talked about it. I'm really excited.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: We'll let our guests lead off tonight because we are
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: really gracious of this time. Listen, one of Sweet Home's finest,
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: Nick Del Novo, getting ready to see you, man. I
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: cannot wait to see you this weekend, and I'm excited
• 36:15
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• 36:18
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• 36:29
  Speaker 4: What you got going on this weekend? I think I
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: have a clue.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, obviously it's going to start with Halloween with
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: the kids, right?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: Hopefully I'm breaking bread with you on Saturday and, you know,
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: do a little trick-or-treating, you know, get the car packed
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: up and, you know, head down to One Bill's Drive
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: Sunday morning.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Bright and early.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: Where do you normally tailgate?
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so typically I tailgate next door to Louie's because
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: it's kind of overlooking the lot. I have a bunch
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: of friends coming in, you know, for the tailgate. A
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: couple guys I played high school ball with. Yeah, looking
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: forward to running into you guys and DT meeting you
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: in person. And Rob, it's been a good 25 years,
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: so it'll be nice to see you in person and
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: get you back up to Western New York.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: Listen, Nick, I appreciate you tonight. Listen, you can check
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: him out on Instagram. I know he doesn't want me
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: doing that, but I don't. Listen, check him out on Instagram.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: That's Nick Dell underscore Novo. That's N-U-O-V-O 54. That's the
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: linebacker number.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Again, want to see.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Like, what is his fight? Is he played at the route? Like,
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, in the sectional game. Like, Nick, put in work, man.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: You can do your Google searches, man. Nick used to
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: put in work out there at Sweet Home. Listen, we
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: really appreciate your time tonight, Nick. I will holler at
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: you for sure on Saturday. And again, thank you for
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: joining us tonight and giving us some of your time.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: We really appreciate it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you guys.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Thanks. All right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: DT.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's here.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: You saw the promo today. I'm happier than a pig
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: and shit. I'm just rolling around happy, man. It's funny
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: because being a season ticket holder for so long and
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: then not going, it's funny how it's like, damn, I
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: really missed it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I missed it. Now, I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: never going to be a season ticket holder again.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: I doubt it unless something crazy happens. But DT, I
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: missed it. I packed my bags.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: I ironed my jersey.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I heard that Andre Reid was going to be leading
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: the charge, so I ironed my jersey. I got my
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Reid jersey ready. Super Bowl XXV jersey. I missed the routine.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I'm ready. I'm already packed up.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm starting to itch, DT. I'm starting to itch.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: So I'll let you go first, man.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: What you got going on? Because you're the showstopper, man.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: We wait an hour for you. You're out at dinner.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Let's go, man.
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: This is our Super Bowl. This is the Nickel City
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: crew coming in 1 p.m.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Eastern, Ravens.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Let's go, dude.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: AFC.
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: We get them in the playoffs. We get them in
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: the regular season. We get them in the playoffs. I'm
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: in the hospital in COVID in the playoffs. And Taron
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: Johnson takes the pick six back. And I'm live with Kenny,
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: who we're going to be with on Sunday.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Shout out, Kenny.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: I'm live with Kenny on the playoff game when Mark
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: Andrews drops the two-point conversion.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: We beat him in the divisional.
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: And go on to lose the AFC Championship. But this
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: is real deal Brad Beal, Rob. This is Nickel City
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: crew at its finest. This is 1 p.m. Eastern. This
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: is where professional tailgaters– we know how to do this.
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: We know everything about Sunday. we know we're going to
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: get there early we know at 9 o'clock should we
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: take it easy should we put it up more I
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: don't think there's any going to be putting breaks on
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: Sunday we're here to win we're here to.
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: Win oh my goodness DT yes we are we are
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: going to take it up another notch and listen I
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: appreciate DT For sure. I know that he's out and
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I give him a lot of shit, but I appreciate
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: his time tonight as well.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Listen, I cannot wait. Nickel City crew. I cannot wait.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: I am.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: Are you back, DT? I can't tell if he's back
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: or not, but listen, I can't see him at least
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: right now. But listen, I'll be getting on the road.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: There you are. There you are. Listen, give me your
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: final words, man, because I'm about to do my Nickel
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: City crew report. You could you could bounce out, man.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: You're good, man. Give me your final words. I'm excited
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: to see you.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Listen, nickel city crew.
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: We're out here a couple more days.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: We love you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: We can't wait to be here Saturday. We're going to
• 40:25
  Speaker 7: have some great content all weekend. Rob and I nickel
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: city crew. We're going to have some great content.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Six and one.
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: We're ready to go.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: This ain't no hobby.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: This ain't no hobby. It's the way of life.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: DT. Thank you, sir. For your time tonight. I will
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: holler at you for sure. Listen, nickel city crew.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Bills Mafia, I will be heading out on Saturday early on.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Shout out to my boy, LeSean. He said he's going
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: to come up with me. So we'll at least have
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: a partner in the car. So it won't just be
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: me and podcast the whole way up. So I'm excited
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: about that. And, yeah, nine hours. It's no big deal, man.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I'll be there in no time flat, in time in
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: the afternoon. So shout out again to Nick Del Novo,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: my boy from kindergarten. Can't wait to see him. Shout
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: out to my best friend, Ace. We're all going to
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: try to get together. DT said he's going to make
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: it happen. He's been picking out the wing spots, talking
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: about Kelly's corner or Adolph's or something like that. So listen,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: we're going to find a way to get it together
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: and get the fellas together on Saturday before all that
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Halloween hoopla kicks off.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And I cannot wait, man.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: I have not been to a Bills game in a while.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: And like I said, I've been missing it. So I
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: really can't wait to get it going.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Listen, out there, DT's absolutely right.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: We are going to bring you a lot of content
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: this week, and we promise you, Instagram, check out the Instagram.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: That's what I'm most comfortable with, with posting and stuff
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: like that. So check out Instagram for nickel city crew.
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: We will be at you guys all weekend long, showing
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: you just all, all the things that go on with
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: nickel city crew, man, like how we, how we get down, man,
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: like the, the lots, the grasslots DT is absolutely right.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Shout out to my boy, Kenny Wills, him and his
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: lovely wife. They're hooking us up in respects to getting
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: us in the stadium. We're in the charge lot, not
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: charge a lot, excuse me, the charge club, I guess,
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: which is right below where they do the leading the charge.
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: A little stage. That's so dope. So again, shout out
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: to Kenny Wills.
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: We appreciate him and his wife hooking us up and
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: he's going to hook us up with the tailgate food
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: So I've got, I've got no worries. I've got no
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: complaints at all.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: And again, this week has been dragging on because I
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: cannot wait for Saturday to come. I'll be hanging out
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: with the kids tomorrow and then I'm hitting the road early,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: early on Friday. So excuse me on Saturday. So listen
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: out there, nickel city crew, Bill's mafia, Enjoy your weekend.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: I hope to catch some of you guys out there
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: at the stadium on Sunday. Listen, spread love, not hate.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Enough hate going around out there in the world right now,
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: so make sure that you spread some love. These were
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: my Bills thoughts said out loud. I would tell DT
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: to hit him with a go, Bills. He would hit
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: you with a go, Bills. He would say six and one.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: I'll say it for him.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Go, Bills. Six and one.