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- 0:00So what was it like my first time falling in love as someone
- 0:04diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder?
- 0:06What a narcissist falling in love for the first time.
- 0:10What was that like? What went through my mind?
- 0:12How did I feel? Am I still in love with that
- 0:15person? All that and more today on
- 0:17Dragon Ball Z. Now if you're new here, I'm Lee
- 0:21Hammock. I'm a diagnosed narcissist.
- 0:22And welcome to the welcome to another episode of The
- 0:24Narcissist Code. Welcome back, welcome back,
- 0:44welcome back. Yo.
- 0:46If you don't know, I still do my one-on-one coaching.
- 0:49You can find that at mentalillness.net and enter the
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- 0:55or the phone calls. Y'all yes, yes no.
- 1:02But seriously, man, narcissistic people, toxic people like I do
- 1:07believe that a lot of us can fall in love, right?
- 1:09We, we can't feel love, we can't experience love to get that
- 1:11question out the way 'cause I know a lot of y'all going to ask
- 1:13that question. Can a narcissist love in the 1st
- 1:15place? Lee, I don't actually think that
- 1:17you were in love. Demons can't love.
- 1:19Narcissists have no souls that make you soulless and you need a
- 1:23soul to love. A soul is the prerequisite for
- 1:27lovely and you don't have a damn soul.
- 1:29So stop lying to people. What did I do to deserve that?
- 1:36You don't know me. You don't know my heart now.
- 1:40But seriously man, I have been in love before.
- 1:42I'm in love right now. I love my wife.
- 1:44Know people ask me like, do you really love your wife?
- 1:46Yes, I love my wife, my every fiber of my being.
- 1:49I do love my wife. I do love my children, but this
- 1:53is not about that relationship. I told my I told that story a
- 1:56while ago. No, I might even tell that story
- 1:57later. I'll tell you about the first
- 1:58time I was in I was in high school.
- 2:01I was still in high school, right And I met this young lady.
- 2:05We're going to call her. I didn't say these names while I
- 2:07even come out here. We're going to call her Bella.
- 2:13Bella. Let's say Bella like from like
- 2:14from Twilight, Bella from Twilight, right.
- 2:20So meet Bella through a friend, right?
- 2:24And I, I, I saw having these weird feelings for her, right?
- 2:28I, I liked her. She's a beautiful woman, right?
- 2:30I'm just like now pretty girl. I like her, you know, And then
- 2:33it just started getting deeper. The, the further our
- 2:36relationship went, the deeper it felt, the deeper I felt, you
- 2:40know, I mean, it's just like, I felt feeling like this person
- 2:44was made for me. Like really, I really truly felt
- 2:49like this person was 100% made for me.
- 2:52And we were like what, one year at age different.
- 2:54I was, I was 18, I think she was 1716.
- 2:57So we're still in school together.
- 3:00But like, yeah, till the high school.
- 3:01So yeah. So even after I graduated, we
- 3:04still dated, you mean? But it was like crazy.
- 3:08Like we kept moving on and things like that.
- 3:10We dated for how long? We were together for a few
- 3:13years, wasn't it? That was together for a long
- 3:15time. That's crazy.
- 3:18It's so long ago, man, but I remember just feeling like this
- 3:21person was created for me. I remember and I think it was
- 3:23pretty much my one of my first girlfriends in high school.
- 3:26Y'all, I was a very late bloomer.
- 3:27I'll say it like that. I was a very, very late bloomer.
- 3:30So I didn't really I was afraid of girls.
- 3:32I was scared to talk to girls, you know, so I was just like,
- 3:34please, somebody talk to me. I just I mean I'm being funny.
- 3:36I'm being I'm a shot funny guy. So I first met this girl.
- 3:40It was cool. We just met naturally because we
- 3:42rode the bus together and stuff like that.
- 3:43We were cool. All that stuff type of stuff
- 3:45went on and then as time went on, I started feeling like this
- 3:50person completed me like this was the person for me.
- 3:53I was like, damn, I, I, I feel like I couldn't breathe without
- 3:56this person. I feel like I couldn't move
- 3:58without this person. You know, it's just like this
- 3:59song. I can't breathe baby without you
- 4:02in my life. I can't go on baby.
- 4:04This is my song, baby. I forgot what the song it is.
- 4:07Bonus points if you know the name of that song is, but that's
- 4:11part of it, man. I was just like, I can't believe
- 4:13what I was doing. So I'm still in high school,
- 4:15right? So I'm giving, I'm love bombing
- 4:17her by giving her everything I got.
- 4:19You know, I ain't had no job in high school.
- 4:21I play sports. So anything I got from playing
- 4:24sports or my allowance for my Mama, I was doing trying to do
- 4:26things for her minor little things and whatever, because
- 4:29that's all I had, right? I'm a kid.
- 4:31I didn't have much. I had nothing.
- 4:35So I gave her everything I had. So it I did love Mama.
- 4:40I feel like she was the person for me.
- 4:41But after I graduated and she still like I had a year left of
- 4:44school, right? So I was just like I got out
- 4:46there into the real world. I started working, I started
- 4:48getting a job and I got around other people.
- 4:50You know, I know this is going, don't you?
- 4:55But once I started working and getting around other people, I
- 4:57became disinterested in this person, right?
- 4:59I just felt like this person wasn't fit for me anymore.
- 5:01The devaluation phase started, you know, I no longer felt like
- 5:04I was in love with this person. I'm like, I, I cared about this
- 5:07person. I thought we had a future
- 5:08together. We're going to live together, to
- 5:09have kids together, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
- 5:12But then literally I started seeing other people in real
- 5:14life, like, damn, I, this might not be the one for me, you know,
- 5:18like this might not be the person for me anymore.
- 5:20There's so many options out here.
- 5:21I don't want to have a fear of missing.
- 5:23I don't want to miss out anybody else.
- 5:24I don't want to miss out on nothing.
- 5:26So of course I didn't break up with her.
- 5:28I started just this isn't my distancing myself from I, I
- 5:31didn't see her much anyway because she was still in school.
- 5:34I started literally started to work and whatnot.
- 5:36And for, I think for the first semester I went to college.
- 5:39No, no, no, no, I went to college after that the I took a
- 5:43semester off when I graduated from high school, I took a
- 5:44semester off and done with the A&T January of 2004 N Carolina
- 5:48Agricultural Technical State University Aggie Pride in 2004,
- 5:53right? So that's cool for me.
- 5:55So I went to school, She was still in school.
- 5:57She didn't have no plans of going to college or whatever.
- 5:58I was like, this girl ain't for me.
- 5:59I, she ain't trying to, she ain't on the same level.
- 6:01So I'm literally starting to look out to other people,
- 6:03started talking to other people, started partying with my friends
- 6:05and stuff like that. So I'm started neglecting her.
- 6:08And you already know what happens, right?
- 6:09You started neglecting people, they started to distance
- 6:12themselves from you. So she's like, not dumb, she was
- 6:14a smart girl, but she started distancing herself from me and I
- 6:17didn't like that. I didn't like that at all,
- 6:20right? So I actually hated that because
- 6:22I wanted even in my young narcissist days, I still wanted
- 6:26to be the centerpiece. I still wanted to be the one
- 6:28that's in control. I wanted to be the one that
- 6:30would could break up with you and not necessarily have you
- 6:33break up with me. That's how it felt, right?
- 6:35So I was still calling, texting her or whatever the case may be.
- 6:38We we couldn't really call a text much because this is before
- 6:42really cell phones got started. You mean this is back in 2003,
- 6:452004, like so long ago. Damn.
- 6:48Just 20 something. I'm old, man. 20 years ago.
- 6:52The hell? That is crazy to me. 2003, I
- 6:56graduated 03. Yeah, 22 years ago.
- 6:59I'm 40. That's crazy, man.
- 7:02But yeah. So I'm still texting her, doing
- 7:05whatever I can, calling her house, whatever.
- 7:07He's still talking and talking and talking.
- 7:08Then years, few years go by, she ends up graduating.
- 7:12But you know what? She she doesn't go to college.
- 7:14I'm still, I'm moved to Greensboro and I'm like working
- 7:18in, I was not working at Block, but I was, I might have been
- 7:21still been working at Subway. I worked at Subway in Greensboro
- 7:24for a while. So I'm working at Subway in
- 7:25Greensboro. She started working at this
- 7:28plant in Reedsville. I think it's called Quality
- 7:30Associates. I used to work there a long time
- 7:31ago too. That was my first, one of my
- 7:33first jobs. But then the rumors started
- 7:35floating around. They're like, yeah, ain't your
- 7:37girl talking to somebody else? I was like, is she now knowing
- 7:42that I'm up here doing dirt, I'm doing dirt, I'm talking to other
- 7:44people, I'm flirting, I'm doing all kinds of stuff, but I didn't
- 7:46want her talking to anybody else because I still want to be in
- 7:48control. You see, even at a young age,
- 7:51it's like 20/21/22 years old, I'm still trying to be in
- 7:53control. I'm still out here trying to do
- 7:55my thing. I'm still want other people,
- 7:57right? I'm still exploring.
- 7:58I don't want to just I only have one girlfriend my whole life.
- 8:01That would have been sweet, right?
- 8:02That's not like one of those sweet movies.
- 8:04But that's not really what I wanted, you know, that's to me
- 8:06because you have you have a bunch of friends around.
- 8:08You didn't talk to a lot of girls.
- 8:09I didn't want to be the one that just talk to 1 like you're lame,
- 8:11you're lame near your lanes. Peer pressure and ego, right?
- 8:14Peer pressure and my ego. So I'm still talking to other
- 8:18people. I heard she's talking to
- 8:19somebody else and I was like, are you talking to somebody
- 8:21else? She's like, no, no, no, no, no.
- 8:23So of course I didn't want to have that.
- 8:26So we end up breaking up for something.
- 8:27I think she was just saying we were going, our lives are going
- 8:30to different directions, which is true right now.
- 8:32Look at it now, years ago, it's absolutely true, right?
- 8:35Our lives were absolutely going to different directions.
- 8:37I was trying to go to school and do have a career and do stuff
- 8:39like that. She just wanted to be at home,
- 8:42be a mom, whatever, right? So we end up kind of breaking
- 8:45up. I was like this is kind of this
- 8:46is too quick. So I went to her house and she
- 8:48wasn't home and it went to her house and she wasn't home.
- 8:54Guess what she was at at the new dudes house and she was talking
- 8:57to I was like, what the hell, heartbroken playing Usher.
- 9:02So I'm playing Usher. This is 2000.
- 9:03This back in the early 2000 I'm playing Usher moving, moving
- 9:06mountains. I don't need moving mountains
- 9:08that came out like that came out back then I'm listening to still
- 9:11my favorite, still my favorite song to this day.
- 9:13Can you help me by Usher Still my favorite song to this day.
- 9:16Can you help me Usher need a need a shout out, man, can you
- 9:21help me? So I'm listening to that song
- 9:22knowing what she's doing. And then she finally confessed
- 9:25and said they have been telling somebody else, blah, blah, blah.
- 9:27I'm heartbroken, I'm angry. And then of course, custard, a
- 9:31little bit rattle, we have a little razzle dazzle.
- 9:34And then I hadn't talked to her in years.
- 9:36There's it. This has been 20 years, 20
- 9:38something years now. They haven't talked to her.
- 9:41That stung for a long time because you felt that betrayal
- 9:44even though I was doing even though I was betraying her,
- 9:46because I was talking to people doing other stuff, which was
- 9:48which was not right. I will openly admit that it was
- 9:50not right. And but she moved on.
- 9:53She did. I think she still might.
- 9:54She might still be with the same guy now.
- 9:56I think she might still be married to the dude now, which
- 9:57is good. If y'all see this video, shout
- 9:59out to y'all. Y'all doing good.
- 10:01Shout out to y'all. And this is 20 years ago.
- 10:04So if they're married or whatever the case may be, good
- 10:06for them. But back in the day, yeah, they
- 10:08hurt. It sucked, right, to go through
- 10:10that. And I feel like part of that
- 10:11shaped me in my early years because I didn't know how to be
- 10:14in relationship. The only thing I knew about
- 10:15relationships was reading Cosmopolitan magazine.
- 10:18Y'all Cosmo, Remember Cosmo magazine?
- 10:20I used to be in the bathroom reading Cosmo.
- 10:22Celebrities are like, they're just like us.
- 10:24And what women won't always read the What women want sections?
- 10:28Girls are girls want this. So I used to try to mimic the
- 10:31things that I read in Cosmo magazine to try to get women to
- 10:34like me, right. I was like, girls like funny
- 10:36boys. They gotta be funny.
- 10:38So I'll see my sister. You see why part of my sense of
- 10:40humor comes from just because like you want girls like you
- 10:43just be funny. So I was part of my sense of
- 10:45become from it's a trauma response as well.
- 10:46But like it works. I'm I'm them.
- 10:48They're a comedian, but that ends up being a big piece of who
- 10:52I am. And like that relationship
- 10:53shaped me because I definitely betrayed her first and then she
- 10:56ended up betraying me and then, well, she broke over me.
- 10:59So but she was already talking to somebody else and she
- 11:01betrayed me too. You, you did you did you see
- 11:03this? You did do it, Bella, you didn't
- 11:05do it. But it's all good, man.
- 11:09But but you see, even at a very young age when I was in love, I
- 11:14still was doing a cycle of narcissistic abuse.
- 11:17Even when I didn't know it was a cycle of narcissistic abuse.
- 11:19I definitely met her love bomb there devalue her and I
- 11:28discarded her emotionally, right?
- 11:29I still physically trying to be with her about they had
- 11:31discarded her emotionally, which is still not good.
- 11:34Everybody gets emotionally discarded, you know what I mean?
- 11:37So I just like I was still doing the psycho narcissistic abuse,
- 11:40being toxic, even though I was 18/19/2021 years old, even
- 11:43though I was super young. So I started a very young age
- 11:45again because I didn't know how to talk to women.
- 11:47I didn't know how to have a healthy happy relationship.
- 11:49But also I just didn't know. I just don't like still to this
- 11:53day, I don't know. I know now I'm being married for
- 11:5614 years. I've been married for 14 years,
- 11:57together for 14 years. Like, hey, I've been riding.
- 12:00I know. I know what I'm doing now, but
- 12:02it's a learning process. When I first got into the
- 12:03relationship, I didn't know I was being toxic.
- 12:06My friends were talking to other girls even though they had
- 12:08girlfriends, so I thought it was okay.
- 12:09I didn't think it was okay. I just wanted to fit in, right?
- 12:12I knew it wasn't okay. I feel weird doing it, but I
- 12:14just wanted to fit in, you know? So I just like in that part of
- 12:18it. That's really is part of how I
- 12:19got to this point right now. Who I am like building.
- 12:22It's like I feel like I had to build myself up brick by brick
- 12:26to get to this point of where I am at right now.
- 12:28My healing, my, my healing and my growth.
- 12:30The journey, seriously, it's just like I had to go through
- 12:33that pain. I had to go through the hurt.
- 12:34I had to go through that betrayal.
- 12:36Even though I did take that out on women between between that
- 12:39relationship and when I met my wife, I didn't take that anger
- 12:43and that frustration out on a lot of the women then I did meet
- 12:46in between that point because I was, I felt betrayed.
- 12:48I didn't trust women no more. Again, because I didn't trust
- 12:50myself, I took, I didn't give my all to their first relationship.
- 12:53I was at first, but then once I got a job and once like life
- 12:57started moving and I realized that like this ain't how it's
- 13:01supposed to go. Life is good.
- 13:02Life has got to be different. He and me, I just like we were
- 13:04not equally yoked, right? We just were not like I, like I
- 13:08said, I have no idea what she's doing nowadays.
- 13:10Haven't talked to her in 20 years, whatever, however long
- 13:13it's been, but I hope she's doing well.
- 13:15I really do hope she's doing well.
- 13:16I hope her and her husband are happy over there.
- 13:18Some kids running around might wait.
- 13:19We might be old enough to be grandpa, my grandparents now.
- 13:26No, but for real, man, that's part of it.
- 13:28So I hope you all enjoyed this story.
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