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Tsu Surf on Battle Rap comeback, beating RICO Case & Wanting $250K to Battle · The Real Report with Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Three lights down from the projects, you feel me? I'm
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: sitting there, phone ring, pick up the phone, yo, it's
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: my mother, how far are you is from? Oh, I
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: got you, I'm good. Sit the phone down, as soon
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: as I grab the steering wheel, I'm ringing. I see
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the first one go through my wrist, boom, hit the door.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Everything else get fast. Now just your instincts getting, now
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: my mind start, my street mind, all right, the shots
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: coming from over here. He came from this side, I gotta,
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  Speaker 1: this the clear side, I'm trying to get back that way.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: He came from behind me, I mean, I'm going that way,
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: because he came from this way. I don't know how
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: much you ought to really be thinking about that.
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  Speaker 2: So I didn't die.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: Because I didn't be playing. I knew what I meant to.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: I knew what I was into. I jumped out the car.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: The car is not necessary. He was flying through this.
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: I jumped out the car. I ran the opposite way.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: And he trying to get away. He's running that way.
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  Speaker 1: I'm running the opposite way. Pulling on car doors. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just trying to get to anybody. All of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: it's locked.
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  Speaker 3: People swerving around.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And then like one door just opened. And I just
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: fall in the car. I'm like, yo, you can take
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: me to the hospital.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: He didn't get stabbed. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. Okay. Bruins! Bruins! Bruins!
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  Speaker 4: Bruins!
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  Speaker 1: Bruins! Bruins!
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the talk of New York, Tony Ayo.
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  Speaker 2: And it's the boy Uncle Murda, a.k.a. Led Jack Lenny.
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  Speaker 5: And it's the Real Report Show, and the king is back,
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  Speaker 5: the king of battle rap.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: He's rapping now. He's coming for the king of Jersey.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Make some noise for Sue Surf. Welcome home.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa. Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: I like the welcome home.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: How you feeling, man?
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  Speaker 2: That was a hot take in the building.
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  Speaker 1: That was a hot take, king of battle rap.
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  Speaker 3: I feel good, though. I'm just happy to be home.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, yo, bro, when you talk these numbers, a
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  Speaker 5: quarter million. You know, I got to label you the king.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just keeping it real.
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  Speaker 5: Quarter million is a lot of money for a battle.
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  Speaker 5: I heard Steve say, nah, he need 500.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a number until I get it, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But right now it's at the quarter million number.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I heard Steve say 500, man.
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  Speaker 3: Half a million.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the big dog kind of, the big dog matter.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to Steve, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I try to take as much advice from him.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to Patty, too.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome home, Patty.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome home, Patty. 38 years, man.
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  Speaker 3: 38 years, man.
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  Speaker 2: 38 years.
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  Speaker 1: God, yeah. Welcome home, Patty.
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  Speaker 5: Steve talks about this guy murder for as long as
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  Speaker 5: I know him. I felt like I know Patty, and
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  Speaker 5: he's just like, yo, I just can't wait till Patty
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  Speaker 5: get out, man. And you see him do 38 years
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  Speaker 5: and come out looking good in one piece, man.
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  Speaker 4: I saw Patty out there trying to work on, he
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  Speaker 4: was trying to learn how to use the phone out there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's been 38 years, man.
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  Speaker 2: You figured out how to use it? You made a call?
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  Speaker 2: You made a call? All right, congratulations, Patty.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, at least he had some Peter Lugas today.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, what's that?
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, Patty. That's a good first stop. Steve will always
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  Speaker 1: treat you right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because one thing, you know, I went to jail.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all went to prison. Jail is Rikers Island. Prison is
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  Speaker 5: a whole nother world. You know what I'm saying? Now
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  Speaker 5: you on top of your game. You had money before
• 3:01
  Speaker 5: you went in. You on top of your game in
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  Speaker 5: battle rap. It's five guys that's the elite. We spoke
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  Speaker 5: on that. We'll get back to that later. But you
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  Speaker 5: on a Rico, you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 3: You in Jersey. You get shot five times.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know even what.
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  Speaker 5: It's like you living the life of Tupac or something, man. Like, no,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just being serious. So, did you get shot first
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  Speaker 5: or didn't the Rico King?
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  Speaker 1: Nah, I got shot. I got shot in 2000. I
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  Speaker 1: got locked up for what they said was attempted murder
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  Speaker 1: in 2017. Then I came home like five months after
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  Speaker 1: I came home in 2018. I got shot. I got
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  Speaker 1: hit five times.
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  Speaker 2: And then.
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  Speaker 1: You know, then went back to not regular life, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure some stuff out after.
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  Speaker 3: So how was that like? You was just, how'd that happen?
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  Speaker 3: You getting shot?
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  Speaker 1: How'd I get shot?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I know a nigga shot you, but
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Is like, what was you doing? You got locked up
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  Speaker 2: for that tip murder. I was not. Yeah, you was
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  Speaker 2: locked up for that tip murder.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, long story short, it's like, It started
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  Speaker 1: off a regular morning like I would always start off.
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  Speaker 2: My son was puttin' in that pain.
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  Speaker 4: He ain't just one of these rappers that be talkin'
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  Speaker 4: that shit, but that had problems.
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  Speaker 1: Jersey! Jersey!
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  Speaker 2: I hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that it be havin' to be like that,
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  Speaker 1: but sometimes it gotta be like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm sayin'? Like, I be tryin' to
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  Speaker 1: tell niggas, like, you don't wake up. You don't wake
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  Speaker 1: up and be like, oh, this the day I'm goin'
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  Speaker 1: to jail for the next two, three, four, five year. Like,
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: preparation really is important, especially if you into certain type
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. I be 100 and say I was never
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  Speaker 1: prepared when it came. And niggas don't be understanding that. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I hate that part. I don't know why I just
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  Speaker 1: went that way. But I wake up in the morning
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  Speaker 1: not knowing that I'm about to, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So niggas just going to get breakfast. It's me and
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  Speaker 1: my dog at the time.
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  Speaker 2: You feel me?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting there texting Shorty or whatever like that.
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  Speaker 1: He just tapped my leg. Yo, that's the nigga that shot.
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  Speaker 1: It's my best friend that got. It's just a quick
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  Speaker 1: moment and that's all it take. You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: Like split second. Yo, that's the nigga that shot. My
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: best friend. We on that. Broad daylight, 10 in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Breakfast then turned into something else. I get locked up.
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  Speaker 2: Stupidity.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be able to, like, you have to
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  Speaker 1: have critical thinking skills at all times, especially like, it's
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  Speaker 1: like niggas think you supposed to be dumb in the
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: trenches and you got to be the, you actually, it's
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  Speaker 1: harder to be a street nigga than it is to
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  Speaker 1: work at Google.
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  Speaker 4: And to go to college and all that other shit because, man,
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  Speaker 4: you got to be on point 24-7.
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  Speaker 1: My critical thinking skills was ass. I end up in
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  Speaker 1: jail locked up.
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  Speaker 2: You feel me?
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  Speaker 1: And The type of niggas that we was in like,
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  Speaker 1: I guess like getting into it with like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really be like, homely niggas ain't beef with no suckers.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's oppression.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: We don't oppress nobody. So nine times out of 10,
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  Speaker 1: if we getting into it with somebody, they reputable, they
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  Speaker 1: worth getting it into it with. So I come home
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  Speaker 1: and niggas get up with me. You feel me? Like
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  Speaker 1: laid up in a bed, little shorty. I see something
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  Speaker 1: come across the screen. I don't even know what TV,
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  Speaker 1: what movie it was. I'm like, I remember it was raining.
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  Speaker 1: It's raining outside. I'm like, yo, you want to go
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  Speaker 1: see that? She's like, yeah, come on, let's go. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't got no clothes though. I'm taking you. All right,
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  Speaker 1: come on, get up. It just feel like a good day.
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  Speaker 2: So you start thinking shit was sweet. You taking her
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  Speaker 2: shopping and shit, nigga.
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  Speaker 1: We jump in the car, jump in the car, push through.
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  Speaker 1: Now she still live the life that I, not, she
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  Speaker 1: still live in the hood. I'm kind of, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? At this time, Sue Surf is like
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  Speaker 1: Sue Surfing.
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  Speaker 2: You got your name out there.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I don't live in the hood.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like, I could, I could, because it's levels
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  Speaker 1: to getting away from the hood. Like when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this rap shit. Like, so I'm out the hood,
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  Speaker 1: but I still, my presence, I'm still stepping in, in
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  Speaker 1: and out.
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  Speaker 2: One foot in, one foot out type shit. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Before you really, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: All the way out this motherfucker. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And it'll never just transition like that. And so I,
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  Speaker 1: she's still living the hood. So I go to drop
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  Speaker 1: her off and the way to her hood is through
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  Speaker 1: the projects. You feel me? And, you know, half the
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  Speaker 1: projects beef with the other side of the projects. I'm
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  Speaker 1: from one side. And so we drive through and I
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  Speaker 1: see allegedly the person that, From the first situation.
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  Speaker 2: Facts.
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  Speaker 1: And we just like... And she like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: y'all look like y'all hate each other. Like that, I'm like, oh, that's...
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  Speaker 1: I go, I drop off. So I'm like, yo, go
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  Speaker 1: in there and get your clothes.
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  Speaker 3: Like that.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, all right. Like soon as she go in there,
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  Speaker 1: my mom called me. Yo, mom, what's up, mom? She's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: go pick up such and such from the train station. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I got you. Two seconds. Shorty come out the house. Hey, yo,
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  Speaker 1: wait right here. You ain't got nowhere. Sit on the porch.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be back in two seconds. I bust a U-turn.
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  Speaker 1: What'd I do? I'm just... Out of natural habitat, I
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: pushed the same way I came, back through the projects.
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  Speaker 1: You're not even thinking about it. It's just natural dog habit.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's just second nature. I'm
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: from here.
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  Speaker 2: Niggas might have thought you probably was coming to try
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  Speaker 2: to get busy too.
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: And that's what was said. And that tended and everything.
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: That's what they said. You get what I'm saying? When
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: you really start talking, because men talk. Of course. Real niggas.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: Of course, of course.
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  Speaker 1: So word get back is like, if you see a
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  Speaker 1: certain nigga push through twice.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: That already did X, Y, and Z allegedly is like, man, listen.
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  Speaker 2: They think I'm on that.
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  Speaker 1: You spinning. They think I'm on that. They get on that.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sitting at the, I'm three lights down from
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  Speaker 1: the projects.
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  Speaker 2: You feel me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. Phone ring. Pick up the phone. Yo,
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  Speaker 1: it's my mother.
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  Speaker 3: How far are you is from? Oh, I got you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Sit the phone down. As soon as I
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: grab the steering wheel, I'm going to start ringing. I
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: see the first one go through my wrist. Boom, hit
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  Speaker 1: the door. Everything else get fast. Now just your instincts
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  Speaker 1: get in. Now my mind start, my street mind, all right,
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: the shot's coming from over here. He came from this side.
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  Speaker 1: I got a, this the clear side. I'm trying to
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: get back that way. He came from behind me. I mean,
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: I'm going that way because he came from this way.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Niggas don't know how much you ought to really be
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that shit.
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  Speaker 2: That's why niggas die.
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  Speaker 1: Because niggas be playing. I know what I'm into. I
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: know what I was into. I jumped out the car.
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  Speaker 1: The car is not necessary. Them shits is flying through
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  Speaker 1: this motherfucker. I jumped out the car. I ran the
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  Speaker 1: opposite way. And he trying to get away. He's running
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  Speaker 1: that way. I'm running the opposite way. Pulling on car
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  Speaker 1: doors and shit. I'm just trying to get to anybody's shit.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: All them shit is locked. People swerving around and shit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and then like one door just opened. And
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: I just fall in the car. I'm like, yo, you
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: can take me to the hospital. He like, yeah, I
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: ain't from around here, but I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that.
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  Speaker 1: You feel me?
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  Speaker 3: He knew you was who surfed though, right?
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: That's why it's weird to me, right? No funny shit.
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  Speaker 1: Tony is like.
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  Speaker 3: Because I ain't just letting niggas get shot up.
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  Speaker 1: Just kidding.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Pete, right?
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: You a superstar, dude. Scratch all that, right? We from Newark,
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  Speaker 1: the carjack central, carjack capital. People don't make a mistake
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  Speaker 1: and just get off on this exit. There's no such
• 9:25
  Speaker 1: thing as like, why are you around here? I'm just
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: the middle of the trenches. You're not just about to
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: be from somewhere else and be here. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if you had to stop for gas and everything. This
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  Speaker 1: the type of place where you'll skip this and get
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  Speaker 1: gas somewhere else. It was just a random person that
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: don't know who I am in New Jersey. Like, I
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  Speaker 1: fall in the car. You know what I mean? He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not from around here. I'm like, yo, could you
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: make a call for me? He called. Only number I
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: could think of is my man. I called my man.
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm shot. He like, man, stop playing, nigga.
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  Speaker 1: I'm shot. Get to the hospital. I direct him to
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  Speaker 1: the hospital. I jump out. I go in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I never heard from him again. He ain't jump in
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: my comments. He ain't reach out to my... It's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that. That's crazy.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. There's no way you... Su-Surf get shot in Jersey.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: You was the person... Like, even by mistake, your nephew,
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: none of your nephews listen to me. Your son don't
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  Speaker 1: watch battle rap. Your cousin don't. You a black man.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody don't know.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: You don't know that you took Su-Surf. That's why it's
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: crazy to me. I don't know. I believe in the
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: high five.
• 10:21
  Speaker 4: You ain't even get to show him the proper salute,
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  Speaker 4: like pay him homage the right way.
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  Speaker 2: Salute.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: He ain't got paid more than.
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  Speaker 3: Well, shout to him, whoever drove.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: That's a fact.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Shout out to him.
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: Come find me. Hopefully he watching this podcast.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: And go, oh shit, that was me that day.
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: Come find me, for real.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: He will get the utmost accommodations. I'm forever in his favor.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Look at that.
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: Seriously. I mean that whole heart. He could find me whenever.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: How long did it take?
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: How long you was in the hospital after that shit happened?
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  Speaker 3: Like four days.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: Four days, got the fuck up out of there.
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we out of there.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Got you. Yeah, we out of there.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: They folded me up, though.
• 10:53
  Speaker 5: What hospital don't go to in Newark, in Jersey?
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  Speaker 1: In Newark, you mean?
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: You know how they serve, yeah, they serve in hospitals.
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: The crazy part is, right, like, the hospital I went
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: to ain't a trauma hospital. Like, we only got one
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  Speaker 1: university hospital. It's like where all the shootings and emergency go.
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  Speaker 1: That's our trauma hospital. The one I went to is
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: more like a birth hospital. Like, they don't do trauma,
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: but that was the closest hospital. If I would have
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: tried to, if If I would've laid out and tried
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: to wait for the ambulance to come from, cause that's
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: where it would've came from, across town. I would've died,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: you feel me? Nah, I survived and it was at
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: like a, it wasn't even, yeah, it wasn't even a
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: real trauma hospital, you know what I mean? But yeah, nah, anywhere,
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: Newark ain't, Newark ain't a place, man. I survived, you'll survive, man,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: don't get shot.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, when you really think about it, it's.
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: Hard for artists because, you know, you get all this money,
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: you get to a certain level, Certain people would be like, yo,
• 11:44
  Speaker 5: why Sue Surf over there? He's getting a quarter million
• 11:47
  Speaker 5: to battle. What the fuck is he doing over there
• 11:49
  Speaker 5: in the hood, in the projects? And then certain niggas
• 11:52
  Speaker 5: be like, yo, he ain't in the streets no more.
• 11:55
  Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know, man. It's like a gift
• 11:56
  Speaker 5: and a curse being a rapper sometimes, an artist, man.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: That's all the time. We still animals, though. Like, humans
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: and animals. Like, what happened to, like, so we could...
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: We could watch all these science TV shows and fully
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: understand the animal, the habits, they creatures and they habitats.
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: And they like, why the fuck do a fox stay
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: where it stay at? Like, you know, why don't you
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: ever see a fox in the, you know what I mean? Whatever,
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: in Alaska or animals stay where they.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: And that's how dudes be too. I guess we'd be
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: on the same type of time.
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: We know the hood. We love the hood.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: I know it.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: I love the hood too.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: I don't mean I want to be there, but I
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: know it.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: But when you go other places, like when you.
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: Go other places like in Europe, across the world, like
• 12:39
  Speaker 5: it's hoods everywhere. Like there's a hood in Paris.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: There's a hood in Sweden. Don't get me wrong. There's
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: hoods there. But ain't no guns. So the most you're
• 12:48
  Speaker 3: going to have is a fist fight or a knife fight.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: So you come, you in America, you're like, damn, all
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: these guns here. What the hell?
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Why the.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Guns here, buttons.
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: Niggas, come on. Guns is crazy now, bro. Niggas got buttons, switches,
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: all kinds of shit.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman On everything, on anything.
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: Rob Markman You survived some shit. Know what I'm saying?
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: And then now, look, you fast forward, you get shot, right?
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Rob Markman Wow.
• 13:09
  Speaker 5: Rob Markman You the only battle rapper, I looked it up,
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: you one of the only battle rappers to be on
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: Billboard on 2015. with the Newark mixtape. Like you been
• 13:19
  Speaker 5: a nigga that been on fire. You been getting bags
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: with smack. The elite niggas we know. We said, it's you,
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: who we said, Lux, Mook. And we talking about the
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: niggas that making six figure.
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: No disrespect to nobody else, but.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Cass, Cass, Cass, Cass gonna get six figures, respectfully.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Cass?
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: Cassidy's gonna get six figures. Nigga can't say nothing about Cassidy.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: When we talking about business shit, Cassidy gonna get six figures.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Hitman Holla's gonna get six figures. Murder Mook, shout out
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: to big bro. Murder Mook is going to get.
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: Six figures, period.
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: Low Deluxe is going to get six figures, guaranteed. Like, yeah, nah,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: that's where my heart standpoint come from. I remember the
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: first time Murder Mook came around when niggas thought 20,000
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: was crazy or 100,000 was crazy. Like, Mook the first
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: nigga to really drop a number on a culture. And
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: niggas like, wait, what, 100,000? It's battle rap. So why
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: would I? pull up and not sell yourself short.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Fuck that.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: And even if I'm not like, I ain't gonna lie.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I like humbly, I be feeling like the poster child
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: for battle rap. Cause I do feel like I get
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: the most attention as far as, so it was a
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: certain way. I got a step because I do feel
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: like it is niggas and battle rap that I fuck with.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So it was like, I
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: could open the door for a lot of other niggas.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Cause that's normally how I go. If one label pull
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: up and be like, damn, that came from battle rap.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: They gonna say, Oh, what's up with the other niggas?
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: So it ain't just about, it is about getting me
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: to 250, of course. But if I could get 250,
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: who else could get 250?
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: I know I ain't the only nigga that could get 250.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: And I hope I motivated somebody. My 250 might be,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: and let's be clear, like, if I'm asking for 250,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: that's just, that's a big number. But at the same time,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: maybe my living and life calls for that. So my
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: 250 might be another nigga 50,000. For sure. For a
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: nigga that's getting five and he start doing his thing,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I want 50. Stand on that.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, you look up and,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: my nigga, security $ 100 an hour, nigga. Y'all talk all this,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: he two in the streets and he ain't supposed to
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: be outside. I got armed security now. He's 6'6, 240,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and he need $ 100 an hour. All right, he don't
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: need to be in the car with the homies with
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the guns.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: All right, cool.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Well, now I got to drive it, and he $ 80
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: an hour.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: So I need this 250 so I can move a
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: certain way and.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Stay on these streets. Y'all want me to make it
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: to the stage? You got that BP yet? You got
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to get the bulletproof.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: You got to get the bulletproof truck.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, how much
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: the bulletproof cost? Like, my thing is, like, make it
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: make sense. Like, y'all can't talk to the young black
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: man in America, but don't talk all that shit to
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: me about how I'm supposed to be moving and what
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be doing. All right, so I
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: can't have my blick on me, but I can't have security?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, so y'all want me to have security? All right, well,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: security costs. So now y'all want me to do a
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: job for y'all. So now y'all got to pay the cost.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: How much do it cost to get an ex-gang member
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: or gang member, whatever picture, whatever view you see it in,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: from New Jersey all the way to Houston to perform
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and do the job that we need him to do
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: and get him back home? That costs a lot to
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: get me from New Jersey to Houston. It ain't the
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: typical nigga. You can't just push me through an airport
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: and just assume that I'm going to be straight. And
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: this is proven facts. Because one day we see him
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: wake up and get shot. One day he woke up
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: in the feds, kicked in the door. One day, so
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: we know anything can happen with him. Let's make sure
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: we bubble wrap him and get him to do his job.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: And then on top of, and I do my job.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie, when I heard they got you
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: with the Rico, I was like, damn, this nigga finished.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: You too? I'm like, damn.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, when people hear Rico, they ultimately think a
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: nigga's done.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Like, oh shit, Rico finished. Bitches flying around New Jersey
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: and New York more than anything.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: People don't even understand none of that federal shit. Like,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: niggas just be talking. Niggas don't... There's niggas in the
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: feds for broken guns. There's niggas in the feds for
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: one gun. There's niggas in the feds with no drugs.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Read the fed guidelines, people.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: There's niggas in the feds with no drugs, dog.
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you get arrested with like... If you have like
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: fake keys or flowers in the fed guidelines.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I done read that.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: My little skid bit in MDC.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: But, you know, like.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Motherfuckers done sold the feds fake bricks and.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: Still get charged for that shit. So all that shit,
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: fake guns, still get charged for that shit.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's trickier than that though. You could sell a CI
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: one time. So you sell to a CI and let's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: say the transaction costs $ 350, right? But they've been watching
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: y'all since 2023. On paper, they can say that they
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: only had to do that one transaction. But the feds
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: can say, if we bought from him every day since
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: 2023 at $ 350 a pop, that's 19 keys. That's what
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: your paperwork going to say. It's not going to say
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: 350 grams.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: It's called ghost drugs. So you'll be locked up for
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: 19 keys. Like, I got some big homies that's never
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: coming home. Like, he like, he keeping it real. We
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: in the cell. He like, man, I want no plug
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: out there. I ain't never seen 100 keys. Say 100
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: keys on that paperwork. Niggas be on these comments and
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: these interviews, they don't even know how that Rico work.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: These niggas all don't know they flirting with the Rico, nigga.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Same t-shirt, same hat, same handshake, all this. Rico. Rico,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it's four y'all, y'all got on the same shirt, y'all
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: got on the same chain.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Rico.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Niggas don't understand how this shit work. Like, that shit
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: is copy and paste. Like, I'm talking to the other
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: reputable members in there from other places, other states, other gangs.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Our paperwork look like carbon copies. Just remove the gang.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Take out the Rollin' 60s, put Sereno. Take out the Serenos,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: put the Brims. Take out the Brims, put the Apes.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Take out the Apes, put the Mac Ball. Like, it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the same shit because you can't get around the federal government.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That shit crazy.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So it's like, and it's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: no matter what you say, once they put their eyes
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: on you, you can say anything you want, right? So like,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: let's say you sell cars, but you really sell cars, right?
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And Unc need a car. So Unc call you and say, Ayo,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you still got them Nissan Camrys? You like, yeah, man,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: you fail me. I got 5,000. I'll get you a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: 2023 probably. He's like, all right, cool. I'm going to
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: hit you back. I need that for my daughter. Right?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: That's all y'all said. When y'all go to trial, they're
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: going to bring somebody up there that's considered an expert.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And he's going to say, to my knowledge... A 2023
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Toyota Camry is a brick of cocaine that costs $ 23, 000.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: He's the seller. He's the buyer. How do y'all beat that?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Because this expert up there who got a college degree,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: who never did nothing under oath.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Saying that's how I was slain.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: How the fuck do he know he not from? Now, look,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that's y'all's story. Now, my story was I'm on Instagram
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: with my little homies, but I'm really talking about my merch.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And yo, look, I pay for the merch myself. Y'all
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: niggas ain't got to pay for nothing. So this is
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: your case right.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Now you're talking about? This is your case.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: My case.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: All right, go ahead. go ahead.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram. I'm on Instagram. Man, y'all niggas should
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: be promoting. I should see that shit everywhere. I'm paying
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: for the shirts. Y'all just need to be making sure
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: y'all little bitches got them and niggas got them. Look
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: at my paperwork. To my knowledge, t-shirts are pounds of
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: weed and Like our shit, our paperwork will look exactly
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the same. And they just take, they copy and pasting
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: that shit, bro. A lot of these niggas don't even
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: know they two seconds from a Rico.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Wow, look at that.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Two seconds from a Rico.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: And you wound up doing how much time behind that shit?
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Sick, I had 60 months. I got, my case, I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: copped out the 60 months. But I ain't have to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: do 60 months because, so the way it work is,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: under the rule, it's a 35-53, right? So they was
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: watching us since 2015.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Blessings be to God.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: I think that's since 2015.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: 2015. Which one of y'all? Like, how the fuck? First
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of all, how the fuck? What, in the jam? 2015. Right? So,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: your mind automatically go crazy because 2015, I'm just thinking
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: about the person I was in 2015, like, compared to
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: who I am now, you know what I mean? And
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: what I was on in 2015. They could want me
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: for anything.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, they can want a
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: nigga for anything, but it's like.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: That shit crazy.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Nigga said, hold up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you're saying. You know what I mean? Like, they be
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: watch you, they be watch you, and you just doing like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and that's the crazy part is like, they'll let you
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: do something and not lock you up. Like, you'll catch
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a charge and they won't pick you up.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: But anyway, as far as- They just want shit to
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: build and build and build.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: That shit just took me somewhere. I just zoned out.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: But anyway, as far as my time, right? It's like,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: so they watching us since 2015. But with the way
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the feds work, once they start watching you, the case start.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: So every single time I was getting locked up, I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was getting jail credits. But this is not something you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: know until you become a fed nigga.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: You're the point system.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Not the point.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's different.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: That's how they decide to charge you off your points,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: off your guidelines. That's what it's called, right? But so
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: now I'm catching little miscellaneous gun charges in 2015. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: catch the shoot and stuff like that. But at the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: whole time, we're under federal indictment. So now when I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: come and get them 60 months. And so for you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: to cop out to a RICO, you have to cop
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: out the two predicate acts. Basically, like admit to two
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: things that you did. Right. For you to say, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: you're taking RICO though. You're not taking those two things again.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So their two predicate acts for me was, we need
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you to say that you did the shooting in 2017
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and that this Instagram shit right here, that these t-shirts
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: really was, I'm like, cool. But now once I admit
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: to the, that I did the shooting, they got to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: give me the time I did for it. So it
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: work in my favor because you can't charge me twice.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? So now I admitted to it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So I did a year and some change off the shooting.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? So now y'all got to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: give me that on a 60 months. So now my
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: 60 months go down to 45 plus federal time. You
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: got to do about 85.6. So that 45 go down
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: some more to, you know what I mean?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: 39.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So you kind of look up and you start doing
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the math. Like nigga said that like, yo, why he
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: cop out so fast? You start doing the math and
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it's like, man, I'll be back in three and some
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: change before I go play. My big homie got 28.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: My little homie got 28. My Cody 17, 15. You
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's like, hell yeah, these niggas
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: get me on some little miscellaneous. I could get out.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And you got to understand, the longer you want to
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: fight these people, the case is still open.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: So when you saying that they locked up so you
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: had to do the shooting, you know what I'm saying?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: A nigga ratted? He ratted on you? What, on the shooting? Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: No, they going to see what they do. They going
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to pull your jacket.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Like once you, me and you, we a gang, but
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you not involved yet. And one day we all in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the house and you walk in. They gonna be like, oh,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: who this motherfucker? They gonna get your phone number, get
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: your jacket. They gonna pull all your shit. And anything
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that you did that's on your jacket, we can make,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: just make it federal. So you like, you gonna, I mean,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: we gonna pull you in for all the shit you
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: did before. Niggas don't know, like, niggas don't understand this
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: federal stuff.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: It's a whole nother world, man. You was in USP Polar?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Canaan.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, where that's at?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Pennsylvania.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Pennsylvania.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: What was it like in there? Because I'm federal jail.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: It's nasty. It's nasty. It's nasty. I'll be here all day.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's like 500 minutes a month. Unless you're like a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: get money nigga, you feel me? You could buy other
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: niggas pack numbers and stuff like that. But you got
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: like the average person got 500 minutes a month. That's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: not even three days. How do you communicate with your family?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: How do you check on your kids? There's 120 niggas
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: on the tier. It's only six phones. You better have
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a little oomph in you. Damn. Or some weight or
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: some energy or be a stepper or something because you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: might not talk to like.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: You said 120 inmates and six phones.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: And six phones. And six phones. You only could call
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: every 15 minutes. Like, I mean, what you want to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: talk about? Somebody gets stabbed up too bad or it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: a clash in gangs that's not, like some, if it's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: like gang on gang, we'll be up in an hour.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Let the Crips crash with DC. We'll be down for
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: three months. Now you'll be in your cell for three months.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: 90 days. I was just telling the homie that. You'll
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: be locked in your cell for 90 days, right? So now,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in the midst of being locked in your cell, you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: know the jail got to keep moving as far as
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: how they work. So four, five buses might have came
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: in while we locked down. That's another three, four hundred
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: niggas that got to get checked into the yard. So
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: out of 300 niggas, as a federal nigga, I'll tell you,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: 220 of them niggas is either a chomo, a rat,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: or a rapist, or a thief, or... So by the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: time we come off of lockdown, 220 niggas got to go.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And every group of men got to do their own cleaning.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: So it just be a whole nother, when the doors open, again,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it's a whole nother, we going right back down. You
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So like you never really up.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: You never really talking to your kids. It's a fucking
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: shit show. Patty was just talking about it. Like the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: dumbest shit is glorified.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: That's what kids, stay out of prison, stay out of jail, man.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Guaranteed.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: For real, we ain't glorifying this shit. Everybody who's in
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: there don't want to be there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Nobody.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Now, was your homies there for you when you was
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: locked up, though?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: They can't even visit in the feds because it's a
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: fucked up list. He know that.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: It's different.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It ain't like the state.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: If his friends got felonies, they can't visit him.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: He ain't even talking about the VI. He being in
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: a sense of just morals, like being there, like structured.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Just being there, making sure the bread is served.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Nah, you got men that, you got men that, was
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: for sure showing up for me. You feel me like that?
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But then you also got them people that's like, wow, him?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: That nigga ain't check on my mother. That nigga ain't.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's like, and even me,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: it's like, also, I still, I'm a certain type of man,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so I might have got also a certain type of support.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't even want to speak from my standpoint.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I want to speak from the standpoint of a normal,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: average inmate. The average man in there don't got support.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It's his own ecosystem.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: It's his own world.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: The average man in there is taking care of himself.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Even getting on the phone and calling your people to
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: get them to send you money is a part of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: taking care of yourself. That's a part of you handling
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: your business in jail. You know what I'm saying?
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Getting to that phone and making that call.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the average, they'll all
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: tell you, bro, nah, the homies ain't got me. It'd
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: be 400 niggas at the meeting. I asked all these
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: gang members, it'd be 300 niggas at the meeting, 200 niggas.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: If I set 100 deep, That mean you could go
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: get $ 20 from everybody and I'm straight. I ain't got
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to call y'all for the rest of the year.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: That ain't going on in.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: There at all.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It don't be like that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It don't be like that at all. I might have
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: spent a quarter mil. I might have spent a quarter
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: mil my first year in jail. Taking care of my mother,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: taking care of my daughter, making sure Shorty got a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: brand new car, birthday still, trips got to go and da-da-da, like.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: The show don't stop for real. Like, nah, that shit
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: fucked up in here.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: You can't complain because you got four years and like
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Patty said, he did 38. Yo, a nigga right across
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: the hall from you might have natural light. That's the
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: crazy part about it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Nah, I tell you from a... See, you never did time, right?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I tell you from a street nigga, like from a
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: jail nigga standpoint, excuse me, right? You can't complain because
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: it's like, Time is time, right? I had to tell
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a nigga that, like, a nigga had like a 15
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and I got 60 months. He like, yeah, nigga, that's
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a ticket. I'm like, nah, nigga, you know what, five years. Like,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: my five years is, this is for like 12 years
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to me, nigga. I got a 17-year-old daughter. I got
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: a bunch of my government. You know what I mean?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: There's people that's dependent on me. Like, my mother retired
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: because of me. I'm gone for four years. So no,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it seemed like a short time to you. Nigga, I
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: can't afford five years away from the village.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So when you hear a nigga say something like that, like, oh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that ain't shit. Oh, no. Oh, you didn't. Oh, you
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: was a good riddance. I'd say some of these niggas
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: is good riddance niggas. When they go, they mother be like, oh,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I could turn this to a guest room now. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: could clean this place. This shit was stinking in here.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: This shit was stinking. You said I could turn this
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: tour against you. Shit was stinking in here. He had
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: this motherfucker stinking. No fucking nigga get locked up. Mom,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Duke's like, damn. And for real, the real mom was like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I know he's safe now. You know what I mean?
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: They were so scared of losing you on them streets.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: They just know you somewhere. Like, fuck it.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: My mama told me that all the time. Like, when
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: you in jail, I just know you all right. And
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that feel much better than when you go outside. You
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So yeah, nah, time. Hell nah, yeah,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: time is time. Whatever the fuck that was, that four
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: years I did, that shit felt like 10.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Well, you gained a quarter million in a battle. You
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: won a quarter million, half a million in a battle.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's different.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: I ain't get it yet, but we going to work
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: on it. Is that going to happen, Moose? What's up?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I can keep segueing that to that shit.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: No, because I mean, listen, like I always tell you,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I got so upset when battle rap went off of YouTube.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: You are.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: URL, the Canadian League. You was like, you don't know
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: his shit. Deebo, Queen of the Ring.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: I just got a little upset because I've been a
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: fan for battle rap since the beginning of time. Because
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: when a nigga get on stage and know his song,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: that's different.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: You can even fuck up a line or two. You
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying? But when you in the battle...
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a whole different.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Battle rap is the toughest performing art in the world.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It's the toughest performing art in the world. You don't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: like how hard Broadway is, but they go around the
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: country doing the same thing every night. And battle rap,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you got to have new material every time.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: We was even talking about that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: It's funny you say that with Broadway, because even with Broadway,
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: not that they do it, but they can mess up
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and you won't even notice. They can mess up and
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: you might not even notice. They can keep it going.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: because they have profession with it. Even with battle rap though,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: it's like, if you damn near mess up in battle rap,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: everybody will notice it and that damn nigga cost you
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: the battle.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: For real.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: The mind capacity it takes to like, the logic you
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: got to have behind battle rap and shit like that. Like,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you might be battling in Chicago and it's like, you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: we call it the chicken shack. New York, Jersey, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: shoot the chicken shack real quick. It's Coney Island in Chicago.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: If you don't got the wherewithal to know that when you,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you in Chicago, you saying chicken shack, them niggas like, Crickets. Like,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: it's so much mind at play into, like, what's the
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: streets out here in Houston? Like, what's the gas station? Like,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it might not be a BP where you battling at.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: You talking about where you from. It just takes so
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: much thought process to, like, prepare for, I'm just talking
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: about the level that I perform at. You know what
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I mean? Because even when y'all, like, y'all talk about
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the money, like, some of these performances warrant that. You
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? When you get a high-level T-rock versus...
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Murder Mook at Gramercy Theater. Like you talking about hiring
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: because that's what it is. We wouldn't be having this
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: heart of a conversation if the names was Drake and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: 50 Cent because they masters at a craft. T-Rock and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Murder Mook are masters at their craft. Like, these are
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: masters at the battle rap craft. So when we talk about,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: because this is what we're trying to sell. So we're
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: trying to sell battle rap. So you put these two
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: masters on it. Like, name another sport or another league
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: or anything where the best players in the world are
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not max contract players. These are masters. This is Jason Tate.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: If you want to talk basketball, this is fucking Jason
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Tatum and Anthony Edwards. If you want to talk. Football,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: this is freaking Garrett Wilson. This is Mack Wilson, you
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Mack Wilson.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: You talking about Patrick Mahomes and these guys getting these
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: big contacts and all that shit.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Facts. You know what I'm saying? These niggas, how do
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you not give Murder Mook the maximum to perform a
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: battle rap at that? You're not asking him to build
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you a house. You're asking Murder Mook to battle rap.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: A forefather.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: And you're asking him to go against Surf. So we
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: need that 250.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've been waiting for you to come home.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: We need that 250.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: You and Mook battle, definitely. Can I ask y'all a question?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: It's definitely going to do something for the game. How
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: did this happen? Where did this come from? I feel
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: like I missed when this became the most important thing
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in the world.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: What?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Mook versus Surf. Oh.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, you just came home and then, you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: the streets talk. And then, you know, niggas hear them numbers, 100,000,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: he won a quarter million, and.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: The streets just talk.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: So I So we was like, yo, are they going
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: to battle or not? I forgot who was just talking
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: about it. And then they were saying that you want 250.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I think that should just be a dope ass battle.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I think it's something that needs to happen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It's like people sweep under the rug the fact that
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Murda Mook said that he's on YouTube. Hell no, I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: won't be the first nigga to stand in front of
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: him when he get home. I would be, you would
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: be a fucking, you would be a fucking fool to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: stand in front of, whoever stand in front of surf,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the first person to stand in front of surf would
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: be a fucking fool. That's what Murder Mook said. Do
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that get swept under the rug?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: He ready now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I mean, shit.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: That's my murder brother too. Oh man, Mook, you said that?
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: What do you feel was ever your toughest battle?
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: My toughest battle?
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Ever in life.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: All of them. Because I'm battling myself. I'm not never
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: battling a nigga in front of me. Like, it'd be
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: so much shit going on. Like, so much homies locked
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: up and people, my mama need me. I'm just trying
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to get to the battle, make it through the battle
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and with a good performance and finish figuring. So I'm
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: battling myself. Like, you know what I mean? Like, for real,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I'm never really battling who I'm from. I'm better than
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: them niggas.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm never really bad. Like, you might catch me
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: on a bad day, but like, even the bad, like,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no time to cry. I ain't got
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: no time.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: My uncle died. I'm about to battle Cortez. I left
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: my uncle's funeral. They took me straight. They had to
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: drive me because I had to go to my uncle's funeral.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for Cortez. I'm driving for the funeral
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to go battle Cortez. I'm talking about get out the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: car and get on stage. This is the timing. The
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: minute we get to North Carolina, you're going to have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to get on stage. My uncle just died. My best
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: for my Superman. I'm locked up in Detroit. preparing for
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: my rounds because when they bail me out, I have
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: to battle Big T. I don't really be battling these niggas,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I be battling all this shit.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: We don't see what's going on behind the scenes. From
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: a funeral and jail to a fucking battle? And there's
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: two different times, and there's always something. That's just how
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: I was raised. People ostracize it, obviously, because of You know, like, oh,
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: you got all this going on.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: First of all, y'all ain't been in the light before.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: You get famous before you get rich. So a nigga
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: looking at fucking Sue Surf like.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And they're thinking you already got it. It ain't even
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: there like that, yo.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: My first battles, I wasn't even getting paid. My first
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: battle was like two, three years in. This shit just started.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I might have made my first six digits.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Talk about that, right? How did you even start? Like,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: what made you even, because you're going through mad speech shit, right?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Because you come from the hood. You just come from
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: the hood, right? What made you even want to battle?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I ain't never want to battle rap. I said all
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the time in a million interviews, my eighth grade yearbook
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: say rapper. I always love to rap. I ain't never
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: really want to battle rap. I just be better than things.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So it's easy.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I like to just rap, but if you want to
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: put my raps against your raps, I could do it
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: because I'm better than you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: See, but being a rapper and battle rapping is different.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Because with that battle rap, so y'all got to stand there, right?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It's only different when you separate it. And you're a
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: street nigga too, right? So niggas are sitting there and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: niggas are saying all this extra disrespect.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: How do you take that shit like that? Like when
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: niggas is, you just tune that shit out? Like all
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: the disrespectful shit niggas are sitting there just saying in
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: your face?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Respectfully, like my name precedes itself, right? Like the average
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: person that I'm battle rapping against, The Google don't match
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the raps. So I never take it personal. You only
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: calling me a crab because we on stage. You know
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: what I mean? But this is documented though, humbly.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Like you could Google Sue Surf, smash him. I'm not
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: glorifying it, but this is what the fuck is going on.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It's my real life. You know what I'm saying? So
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: it's like nine times out of ten when I'm battling somebody,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm battling somebody. One that's just doing a job. It's just,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, but this is like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you could, and I, I said time and
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: time again, like you could read the discovery and listen
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to the battles in them hallways. I was, I mean,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that wasn't Broadway. I was raising in the sun. I
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: said that directly after I battled Ramniti and said, we
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: was shooting all day. That wasn't Broadway. I was raising
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: in the sun. I just had came home from a
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: shooting at 10 a.m. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to blow the bag because y'all niggas
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: is talking crazy. Because I know who I really is
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: for real.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Why would I tweak out on somebody that really don't
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: mean that? You just rapping. You know what I mean?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? I'm not the toughest nigga
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: in the world. I don't really care how the outcome
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: turn out. The real street niggas don't care. I don't care,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but you're not going to play with me though. You
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? You can beat me up. That's cool.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: It's happening. You know what I'm saying? So it's like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: I don't really care about that, but it's not going
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: to be, but I know he don't mean no disrespect.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Talk of New York, Tony Ayo.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: And it's the Boy Uncle Murder, aka Learjet Lenny.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And it's the Real Report Show. And you know what, Lenny?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: What's that, man?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You know, I know we just came back from Paris.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: And one thing that I always realize, and you always realize,
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: is just the water feels different everywhere we go.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: It do.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I feel like it irritates my skin.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I ain't gonna front.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about, man.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: And that's why I never leave home without my Baskin-Lather.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I told y'all I was going to show y'all a
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: little bit of the wave. Okay, you got the waves going?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all get that close up on that.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Definitely, my man.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: You know what, Learjet Lenny?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: What's that, Turbulence Tony?
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: I'm going to put you on game to some Baskin-Lather products.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Me, I'm going with the Beard Growth. For fuller, thicker hair.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: And there's a young sister that's running the whole thing, too.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I think that's dope. I could tell she'd get it,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: by the way. My waves is coming out. So shout
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: out to Baskin Lather for the dope job they do.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Baskin Lather.
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• 38:58
  Speaker 4: And that's 20% off at BaskinLatherCO.com.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Cold.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Real. Report.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Whoa!
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah!
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: But how did you transition?
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Because usually battle rappers are stuck in the boxes like, yo,
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: they can't make records. But when I listen, you got
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: plenty of albums out there. Like I said, you was
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: on Billboard.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I never stopped. I was rapping regular before. You ask
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Mom Dukes. Mom Dukes, I'm 18. Mom's like, before battle rap,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: why you don't get a job? I'm working on the mixtape. Mom,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: shut up. Like, it's always been like that. Like, you
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? I always been just, that's, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: like the rap.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Type shit like that. And then, even the first, my
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: first battle event, it was, battle rap, it was in
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a garage, right? But it was supposed to be at
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a venue. But the niggas that put together that event,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: they asked me to perform. Like, they was doing a
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: whole little thing, like a whole little Performances with battles.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Right, right.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Right? This all the way back in 07, 08. I mean,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: so they just want me to just rap like a
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: regular performer song. And then he called me the day
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: of like, yo, man, the whole venue got shut down.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Fire hazard just down the third. Yo, you want to battle?
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, all right, I'll battle. Cool, whatever. He's like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to send you the address. I'm
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: going to send you the address tonight. I'm like, all right, cool.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: At the time, I'm living on Osborne Terrace in Newark.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: He sent me the address. That shit on Shepard. Like,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: not literally, but we walked out the house and walked
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: around the corner. You know what I mean? It was
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: at somebody else's house in the garage.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: You feel me?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So I battled in the garage that day. And I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: think I battled one more time in the garage like two,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: three days later. And then like a week later, Smack
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: called me. Beasley or one of them.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I want to hear that quarantine joint.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: How was it?
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Because I felt the pain.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And what's that?
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: It was like you was on a jail call spitting
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: bars to a beat on a quarantine.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Nah, you might be talking on a jail call. You
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: talking about Omazi shit.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Omazi shit.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Free surf Omazi.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: That's all Steve be talking about.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: That right there. That right there.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Bro, to me, you my favorite rapper as coming from
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: battle rapper.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? You know the victory shit
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: with Leaf Ward?
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Free Leaf. Free Leaf Ward, man. Murder put me on
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: a leaf, bro.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Facts.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Little bro.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Listen, it's only, I just was talking about this off camera.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's only a couple men that like make me work hard,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: pause in the studio. You know what I mean? I'm
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: talking about like that type of like, when you on
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: your phone writing your shit, you got to pick up
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: and see if he done or if he working like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: what this nigga on.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Because he be talking that shit.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: You can play that?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: He be talking that shit.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Look him up on that GBL.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I want to clear that if he play that on here.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: The label? We can clear that?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: We can clear that right now.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, play that joint real quick.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mozzy. Mozzy going to make you work.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: You was really in jail court doing that?
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did that in the spot.
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: That shit was... Yo, you got to hear... I got
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: to hear that shit.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mozzy going to make you work.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Leaf War going to make you work.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Leaf War, victory and Perks and Paranoia.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Leaf going to make you work. No funny shit. And
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: it's funny because I really feel like... Me knowing it,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: like niggas be ducking certain niggas because like some niggas
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: is really, really like for real. Niggas be like, niggas
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: get so crafty in that room. Like it's some real
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: rappers out there. Benny the Butch is the, you know
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like it's like niggas that- Shout.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Out to my guy, Benny the Butch. I got him
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: on a new project. I'm about to drop that.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Yo, like Benny get in that room and get crafty.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You feel me? It's a million niggas I'm like, cause
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: we talking. It's a, I could name- Of course, of course.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I could name 15 other niggas right now that's like,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: but it's niggas that make you work for real. You
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying? And those, them type of niggas-
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Those are the type of niggas I like to rap with.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: But a lot of niggas don't like to rap with us.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Who put the Rico Part 1 up on YouTube? I
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: watched that the other day. Make sure y'all pre-order Rico, too.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: I pre-ordered that motherfucker. I appreciate that.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That's love. Rico, September 10th.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Jersey in the building.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Rico, September 10th. Y'all heard that from September 10th.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Shout out Herb on that bitch. Yeah, I heard the
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: song with RG Herbo. ESTG.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: My man. Shout out the homie Vorey on there. Hitmaker
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: held me down.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: My man.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Pulled right up.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: My man.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Key Kenya.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: That shit.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Because you know what? I like that pain music.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Like when I hear you, Al Bial, certain niggas.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Al Bial, big Jersey.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Shout out to my guy, Al Bial, Jersey.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: You miss that pain music.
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: You just feel like, yo, this New York Jersey shit
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: is making a comeback, bro.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Niggas is coming with the music.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Hold up. Hold up, baby. Bring that back. Bring that
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: from the top.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: That shit need a genius breakdown.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: I ain't trying to say that I'm a thug.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I was just the only cuz doing burpees with the blood.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Temperature change and interrogation niggas froze.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Here when a wrong nigga telling shit hurts your soul.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: The fakes get exposed. He used to be my dog.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: He a fraud because he told. You ever wanted to chill,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: but they up, so ain't no chilling out. Ever had
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: that thrill on the drill, know what that feel about.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Ever trust a nigga, but you didn't, had to fill
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: him out. Ever had a family hate you because you
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: bailed the kill out. We don't want just anybody. Now
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I want the coldest. I tell all the killers, killer, killer,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: that's a bonus. If you hit a bishop or a rook,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you get a rollie. But I pay double double for
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: a king like Sabonis. I just buy shit, wait for
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: a drought, and then I tax niggas. And my back bigger.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Find you a humble little bitch and then you stack
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: with her. Cool. Perfect. I let cat lick her.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Shit.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Still free the savages. So I gave them status. Hit
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: that nigga Cabbage. Of course it's Crip, but that G-Wagon?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Bitch a Brabus. Try and paint a nigga evil. They
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: forget you till they realize they need you. Level seven,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: pin lockdown, bumping seagull. Taught me love hurts like the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Packers versus the Eagles. Like, I don't really write shit
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: because it's real life shit. Three co-signers, two houses, still
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: a flight risk. Judge a black woman, my prosecutor a
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: white bitch. Cuz gave me hygiene products and an ice pick.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: He both took the time. He copped out the 20.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: His daddy took a dime. I feel sorry for his daughter.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for his mom. They did that court
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: shit together before Bronny and LeBron.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: That's what the game is missing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's not enough living room.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: They did that court shit together before Bronny and LeBron.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: The 30s had switches to them. Homies ain't your homie.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Age circles are snitching to it. We in the death.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: They throwing numbers. Shit, I'm praying for a 10 or less.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You tell, we got to kill you. Tough love. I
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: love my men to death. It seemed like every time
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: she say she bought the nut, you have a minute left.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I hate those. For state clothes. I get the mail
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: stamps from the bank. Ask the ops. We chased down
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: like the bank closed. Appreciate that to that gate closed.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Tired of this street shit. Had to watch my daughter
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: graduate from a free plant. Can you picture that? 60
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: months for them hammers. Ain't no telling what they talking
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: if a switch attached. I ain't let his pain out.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: He was on lockdown. They found out his mother had
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: died till he came out. He was living in some
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: bunk for some days and the days just dazed out.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: And I know that's pain.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Ouch.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: For they ain't respected. They gave the driver more than
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the shooter because of his record. He only lost an
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: eye on that scuffle. That shit a blessing. They waited
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: till he got in the shower. They caught him naked.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: North baby mother of freaks. She got him stressing. How
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you know that gun even work if you never tested? Shit,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: we was guilty of stepping. If it take an alpha
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to cap an alpha.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Now when you spitting that, I know niggas was loving
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: you in there, motherfucker.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Like, hold on, spit some shit. I know you want,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not rhyming for everybody, but come.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: On, bro.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I ain't rapped in four years. I wrote all, I
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: wrote my whole bed. You ask me, but I ain't
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: rapped for four years. I ain't one of them niggas.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not like, again, humbly, like I'll, I hate that
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I got to say it not humbly because Steve get
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: on my ass about that. You don't say humble because
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: that's belittling yourself. You say modestly.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Fuck these niggas, man.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: You say modestly. Humble, you have to lower yourself to
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: be humble. But if you're being modest, you know what
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: It's different.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: So modestly is like when I get into them and
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: it's fucked up, but once you go behind that wall,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I'm no longer entertained. I got to be in certain...
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not your entertainment. I'm trying to survive. Fuck, I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: look like your hair rapping for you niggas. Niggas get stabbed,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: hit with locks and all that shit. There's mad shit
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I'm a.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: No, I know you're not just rapping.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Rap, nigga.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: I know you ain't that type of nigga.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: Me being in the yard and hearing that shit, that
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: shit would have made my day.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Download it on the kiosk. It came out. Listen, they
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: called me on Thursday and said, we need you on
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Mozzie Tape. I wrote it that weekend. They put it
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: on the tape. The tape came out Tuesday. Everybody had
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it Wednesday. You want to hear me go download type?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not a yard nigga. Type Sue surfing on the kiosk. No,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I know that. Type Sue surfing on the kiosk. Oh, no,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that to you.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: But just them bars right there, when I've been listening
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: to you.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: That's pain, for sure.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That shit had me in the whip like, oh, my God. Nah,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But I was just saying, why? You
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: feel me?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: That life, that level seven penitentiary shit is like, it
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: ain't no time for like, you don't even want to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: open a door. You could think in jail, you think
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: about like, this is fucking Tony A on Uncle Murda.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Y'all say spit something.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I got you.
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: In the yard, a nigga- I'm picturing you by the
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: phone and you spitting that and the nigga next to
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: you got to be.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Like, yo, let's sleep.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nah, nah. I just wait till everybody, like
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: everybody want the child. Everybody want the child, the unit
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: cleared out. And then I just- Rob Markman Oh, you
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: was in your own zone with that guy. Rob Markman Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I just kicked my feet up and then yeah.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Rob Markman You know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: What that nigga said?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman I waited.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Until Chicken Thursday.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Oh, I see what Jay was trying to say.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: He was trying to say, damn nigga.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Oh, like a nigga hear me tweaking while
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: I say that.
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: Rob Markman I'm like in your house and I'm hearing
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: you tweaking like that.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Because I'm hearing it on the phone.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: So mama, I'm like, damn, I don't know what you're saying.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, I see what you're saying.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, got you. I waited until them niggas, them loud
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: ass niggas. Free my dogs.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: And it was pain music. It wasn't no bullshit. That's
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: not microwave music.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: That's music I could listen to 10, 20 years.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Down the line. Man, free Canaan, man. Them loud ass,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: silly ass niggas.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, free all them niggas in there.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I wait until Chicken Thursday. And then everybody, nobody missed
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: chicken Thursday. I wait till they chicken Thursday. Y'all tell Devo,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: y'all shout out Devo and Mozzy. Look, I'm going to
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: call you at 12. That's when niggas going to child.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And barring the deuces, the alarm don't go off. I'm
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: going to call you at 12. Everybody go to child,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: it's empty in here. Just the only person that hear
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: me is the CEO. You know what I mean? Like that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: So I waited purposely. to, you know what I mean,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to let everybody live so I could have, so he
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: could get some clear taste.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: But you said his son got a dime, his pops
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: got a 20?
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Shit like that. You went crazy on that one.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: But now when you hit victory- They was doing that
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: core shit before Bronny and Bronny.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: I know some fathers, like I know some niggas, like
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: his niggas on the yard, like he in B2, his
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: son in C1, like nigga tell him like, yeah, now
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: my pop, like I got the, that's crazy, right, sir?
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Like what? He like, yo, I got the pops, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: got the sale my pops had. You know what I mean?
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Shit like that. For real, bro.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Like, you know what I mean?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It really be like that for real. So that's just my, like,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: that shit be my truth. Like, it'd be hard for
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: me to, that's kind of why I got into a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: lot of this shit that I got into growing up, though.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: You feel me? Because I never was one of them niggas, like,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: you could go back to my raps. I never rapped
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: about the car with the doors going up because I
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: ain't never sat in one of them shits. But that's me, though. Like,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: my music is therapeutic for me. That's my life. So
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I ain't really talking about too much shit that I ain't. do,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: or I'm going to do, or I'm about to do,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: or somebody close to me did. You know what I mean?
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Shit like that. So I'm really from the projects, for real,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: like the box. So I ain't never seen none of
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: that other shit.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Don't worry, it's Patty.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: It's Patty, y'all. He good. Yeah, that's right.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: And he don't know how to sound that shit.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: It's Patty, man. I love you, Patty. It's all good, Patty.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: We ain't tripping for you.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you guys don't ring, Patty. It's all good, Patty.
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: Now look, now in the building, we got damn near almost...
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: 50 years of time, Patty did 38, your man did 20,
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: that's 28.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: And you did four, right?
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: In my mind, do you look at prison as a business?
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Like it's just a business?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: It is a business. When you start going in there
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and seeing how, when you, like, I mean, it's two businesses, though.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Are we talking about, like, we could talk about the
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: white folks first. You know what I mean? We could
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: talk about that business where, you know, a jack mat
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: costs $ 2. 30 and everybody ain't got to eat commissary. You
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: take all their clothes and take everything and then make
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: them buy clothes and buy, you know what I mean,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: buy phone minutes and buy. It is a business.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, AT & T, MCI.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm getting X amount of dollars for every inmate
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: in here. This is for sure a business.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Every bed is accounted for.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Every meal. Exactly, yeah. This is a big business.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Big business.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And then you got actually...
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the idea of, like I said, jail is its own world.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Jail is its own business too. You got niggas in
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: there washing clothes for coffee and it's like, it's nothing
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: wrong with that. You know what I mean? Like you
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: got niggas in there like, that'd be, yo, you need
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: your room cleaned? Like you got niggas in there that
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: have businesses. That's why I said there's no excuse. I
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: know the candy man. You feel me for real? Like
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I know brother Bilal, like from Canaan. He got, you
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: go in his room, he got, you go to his locker,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: He got all types of different flavors. Yeah, this is
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: the passion fruit. He mixing the keefy drink mix with
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: the creamer and the making the can. He got a
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: whole business running and he making $ 400, $ 500 a month. Facts.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I know because I'm spending $ 100 with him in there. Guaranteed.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I'm sending him cash. I call baby girl, yo, cash
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: up him $ 100. I'm getting mine when I want. I
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: got his niggas in there that's scraping the paint off
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: they desk and putting the fire up under they seat
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and making a grill. Niggas selling wraps. And he making four, five, six,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: seven hundred dollars a month.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: I always wonder how motherfuckers get so creative in prison, bro.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: You ain't got no choice.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: If I lock you in a bathroom, you'll be surprised
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: what you'll figure out. You'll be surprised what you'll figure out. Like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: how do you figure out that if you take a
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: piece of Brillo and scratch off a Duracell and put
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: one side to the other side in the middle of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: the Brillo going light. Who the fuck thinks of that?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: You lock a man in a room and you'd be
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: surprised what they'll figure out. It's some geniuses in there.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Rob Markman, Jr.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Bro, I told you, I'll never forget this. I was
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: in Rikers Island. I'm in two up up and niggas
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: did time before. It was my first time on the
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: island and it's Lil Gunz and Gambino. These niggas young niggas.
• 53:41
  Speaker 5: And they like, yo, yo, later on tonight, yeah, I
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: got something for you.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, cool. So it was K
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Slay time, lock in. Rest in peace, K Slay.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I love you. Rest in peace, Slay. Rest in peace, Slay.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: Once K Slay came on, nigga was like, yo, yo, yo,
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: shit is coming now. So that's when I was introduced
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: to fishing. So the nigga fished me a joint lit already.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: So I'm chilling in my room, have no jail experience.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: A joint just come flying into my door.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Oh shit.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: He 15, he all the way down the tier. I'm like,
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: oh shit, how the fuck he do that? He fished
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: a joint murder. Bitch, I just, you way down the block, bro.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: You took them blocks away. And you just fucking, I
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: got you bro, I'll just chill.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: And you fish. And the joint comes right under your fucking.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Tail, bro.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: It was crazy shit. You got to see a spider web.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: What's a spider web? We down for 90 days, 80 days.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: It gets to the point where you got store men
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: in there, right? So you might have a dude whose
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: family take real good care of him. So he go
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: on four or five different accounts. So he just buy
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: mad commissary. So he got hella shit in his room.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So now he the store man. He two for one
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: in everybody. That's his business. You know what I mean? Yo,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: let me get a honey bun till commissary. All right,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: I need two back. or you could cash app him.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: He make a bag for you, $ 40 bag, whatever. So
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: his room would be up 132. You know what I mean?
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Way up there. Way up there. We down 202. So
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: he might, his line can't come all the way down
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: to me to 128. So he might shoot from 322
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: to 305. And then 305 shoot, he got a line too.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: all the way across the unit now to this side,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and you'll look up and it'll be a spider web
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: up there, like all the units get into it, because
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: everybody needs something, right? So we yelling through the door, like, yo,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: let me get three coffees.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: So he, all right, I got you. This cell need
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: two bags of chips. This cell need, you'll look up and.
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: It'll- Just mad fishes, just mad fishing lines.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Niggas just pulling, and everybody work, no funny shit. And
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: as funny as it sounds, as crazy as it sounds, like, nah, like,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: it take me to even talk about it, like, nah, like,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Men is in a fucked up situation. There's niggas in
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: there that's still smiling and still making that shit work.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: Work.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Motherfucker make eggs with a light. Motherfucker make coffee taking some.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Knowing they about we got to do this shit for the.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Next- As crazy as that sound, no funny shit like
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: there's niggas in there. That shit actually, when y'all make
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: me think about it, there's niggas in there that's aight.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean good, like want to be in there,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: but there's niggas in there as fucked up as that
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: shit is, there's some niggas in there smiling for real.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: And that like, and that made me feel good.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Once that shit touched down right there, doing that shit
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: to touch down, nigga's like, oh shit.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: He got some coffee. No, for all he wanted, a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: bag of coffee. Like, Maji said that in one of
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: his raps. And he just like, nigga be going through
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the most. Nigga, you can't talk to your baby Maji.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: You can't talk to your daughter. Nigga just want some coffee.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Nigga just want a shot of coffee. He just want
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a shot of Buffy.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I just knew the fishy.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: That nigga said it in spite of where. You see
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: mad lines coming through.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: That is crazy.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: For real, man. Free the men, for real.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: Free the whole can. What would you tell a kid's
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: man not to come to prison? What's the best thing you.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Would tell them?
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's simple. It's not worth it. The end don't
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: justify the means. And that's normally, as humans, that's probably
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: why we do everything. normally you do something because what
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: you want to get out of it. The end don't
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: justify the means. If you could name me five big
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: homies that made it out, that got a mansion, kids, happy,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: with a family, with a house picket fence, I'd go back.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Name them. Go ahead. Pistol Pete under the ground. Facts.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: They got Pistol Pete, and Pistol Pete got to read
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: his mail off a TV screen.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: But one guy, they said my guy Frank Matthews.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: They don't know what he might be, but he might
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: have been the greatest to do it. You ever heard
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: of Frank Matthews?
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: Frank Matthews got away.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: He's from Brooklyn. He originally from North Carolina.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: But he had got snatched up, but then he had
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: got out on bail and disappeared with $ 20 million.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, so I would like to call him a 1%,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: a 0.00001%. You better believe it. The status, it don't
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: come with nothing.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: All the big homies.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: All the big homies got forever or they in jail, period.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Both the niggas that raised me is gone. My big
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: bro got 28. I got to talk to him through
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a computer for the rest of my life. I'll probably
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: never see him again. I have to survive 28 years
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to see one of my best friends again because they
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: ain't going to let me in the jail to see him. Right.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Like, I have to survive
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: 28 years just to see my dog. You know what
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, the end don't justify the means. No,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: it don't. This street shit ain't worth it. It don't
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: add up. Like, none of it. Like, Get Back, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: got it. Like, I'm telling you, I've been there. Like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I know what Get Back feel like. And it still
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: don't feel good. Like, bro still dead. But niggas ain't
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: going to tell you that because the rap sounds better.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Of course. Of course.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: You better believe it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It sounds better. Yeah, we
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: got to get back. Yeah. It's not 1-1. It's 0-0.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: But I can't say that because that don't sound cool
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: in the rap. It ain't 1-1. You got mine. I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: got yours. My nigga's still dead.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Facts. I'm still feeling that pain.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: It's still 0 for me. I ain't up to school.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: And you got to go through it and you spend
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: some shit and you do what you got to do.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: Respect.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: It don't change nothing. It don't change nothing. Like, the
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: goal is for them to not get up on you.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Once he got, he got. I ain't saying don't spend.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: But having a dead homie and 30 years, just the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: math is nasty. That's nasty math.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: That's nasty math, you feel me?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: We signed up for this shit. We signed up. I mean,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: when you in it, you in it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: See, but now let's start getting to a deeper conversation. Like,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: at what point can I rip up the paper?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: That you signed?
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: At what point can a nigga rip up the paper?
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: We real street niggas talking. I'm a reputable... From here
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: to LA, I'm a rep. At what point, and I'm
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: not even talking about me. I'm standing on my shit
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: all over my body. I'm probably going to die like this.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: Respect.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the average little nigga 18 to say
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: I want to join. At what point he can't... Let's
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: say he changed his mind at 21. I'm not talking
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: about no hot rat shit. I'm talking about, you know what?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I tried it. I don't like... Because if you go
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: have some fucking sushi, you start like... You go sign
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: up for the fucking, to go into a fucking water park.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: And when you ready to go, you get the fuck
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: out of there. So you mean to tell me if
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: a little nigga joined a gang at 18 and at 21,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: he'd say, I'm done?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: But me speaking off experience, hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: So you don't mind Hocus 45 with like, the drop
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: the flag challenge?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: I like that. I like what he's doing with that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: But what I'm trying to say is from me speaking
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: off experience, right? And from what you said, right? When
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: you see somebody that did something to a homie of yours, right?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: What?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: And, and you ready, and just, you don't plan it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Like you said, we don't plan this shit sometimes, but
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: we know what we involved in, right? And like you said,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: you just, you chilling, and you happen to see your son.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: They go sun and did such and such a sun.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Just allegedly whatever happened, happens, right? But that mentality don't,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: how we tell like the youngins, like.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: I, You know the only time a lion don't act
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: like a lion.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Like, put it like this.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Do you regret? Niggas don't regret anything they did. You
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: don't regret nothing. You know what I'm saying? You don't
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: regret nothing. You don't regret nothing, right? That's not what
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I'm asking. I'm talking about the, because you said we
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: signed up for something. Of course. Right? And I'm just
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: speaking like, so somebody can't, I'm talking about somebody else.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: They can't, like, you can't rip the paper up? Of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: course you can. All right, that's all I wanted to ask.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Of course you can.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Facts, my nigga.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course. Because essentially the question is derived
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: from the, what would you say to the kids? You
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So it's like, even if you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: do get jumped in, like let's stop making some fake falsifications.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: Like me getting jumped into this shit don't mean I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: can't say, you know what? I want to go to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: fucking electricity. I want to be electricity. The best. The
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: best school is in Texas. I'm out. I want to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: go to, I want to be an engineer. The best
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: school is at fucking Johnson and Wells in Virginia. I'm going. Go.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Don't let them niggas trick you into talking about, you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: got jumped in this shit for life.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: You got to do this shit for life, nigga. Fuck you, niggas.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: Got you.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: If you want to do something else, like, don't say
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: fuck me and you still live in a project building.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: And it, matter of fact, you could say that too.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: Knowing what I know now, you saying, if I'm on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: some goofy shit and you say fuck me, cool.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's just, as men right now.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: I got you.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: As a man, if you decide you don't want to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: do this shit no more, that's cool.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Because then when you look up and you jammed up
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: because of these jammed ass niggas and now everybody want
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: to scream about y'all is making niggas like, you could
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: turn somebody into a killer. That don't mean snitching not,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: snitching could be always in his heart, but we turned
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: him into, we keep making him slide, but he been
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a bitch. Mm-hmm. Because that's the niggas don't, niggas don't understand, like,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: even at bitches, there's frequencies with that. I know the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: softest nigga from some, from my projects that a dog
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: walk the toughest nigga from another projects. You know what
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it's levels to that gangster shit. You
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, so now, you put a nigga, like,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: if six of us do drugs and one of us don't,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: he got a better chance of starting to do drugs
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: than we do stopping. Because it's more of us.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Y'all keep making this bitch ass nigga get in
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the car.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Knowing he don't really want to be in this
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: motherfucking car.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: So now you look up and the nigga do got
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: nine bodies in three attempts. And y'all think he the
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: realest nigga in the world because he shot a gun.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: As soon as he get caught, you wondering why all
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: of y'all went down.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think the nigga that shot for me won't
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: tell on me. I think the nigga that called my
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: mother while I was locked up and I wasn't there
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: to check. The nigga that called my mother and asked
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: her was she straight and was my daughter good, I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: know for a fact he won't tell on me. Just
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: because you shot for me, you the nigga with the gun.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: You better shoot. You better shoot. That's why I always
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: got in trouble because I was the one with the gun.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: That's the job. That's the job.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: You might have believed it.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: That don't mean you're not going to tell just because
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: a nigga shoot. We talking about character. If you got
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the gun, I'm not promoting that. That's street law. If
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: we all out, everybody ain't got a gun. That's just
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: not how it works. It's probably one or two blicks.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: It's four, five, seven of us, one or two blicks.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: If you got the gun, it's because you, so you
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: better shoot when it get ugly. Facts. That don't mean
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: that that nigga ain't, Ain't no soft nigga. Y'all keep
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: trying to turn niggas into niggas that they not. Character
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: like niggas ignore red flags. The smallest red flags. These
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: niggas don't be who they say they is.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: When you see, like for instance, you see like Dirt Case, right?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 5: Niggas that, you know, he took care of, gave him money.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Spooky.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: You feel like the streets is over? Like, cause it
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: just be feeling like... Niggas go out their way, you
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: can show your loyalty to somebody, and then somebody's back
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: on the stand telling on you.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I think the streets never started, and we had a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: false pretense to that shit and loved something that's really
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: not there. Niggas act like it was a time of
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: day when niggas wasn't telling. No, it just wasn't Instagram.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Facts.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not refuting what you're saying. No, no, no.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: I agree with you.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: But even now, right? Patty, Steve, everybody, people at the time, right?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: Look at the technology now. We got red light cameras.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Ring cameras.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: We got ring cameras.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: We got flock cameras.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: We got, police got drones now. They got license plate readers.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: They got facial recognition. Yo, we went from overseas. I
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: took my fingerprints. They said, yeah, we got your fingerprints
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 5: in every country.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: You're the only one.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Because they got that shit now.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, from that family.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Facial recognition, all that shit now.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: It just seemed like, No matter what you do, a
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: Rico's going to come because you're on camera. You got
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: your cell phone with you. Back in the days, we
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 5: had fucking flip phones and beepers. Nothing wasn't tracking you.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: It's like between the technology... And niggas telling, cause of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: the technology.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: It just seem like the game is like.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, you broke that down for me. Oh, that make
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: all the sense in the world.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. I even looked at it a little
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: different when you said it like that.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: It's like, shit. It's almost like if you squeezing the
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: juice out of something, it's no more juice in the orange,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: you throw the orange away. From that perspective that you
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: just broke it down, meaning there's nothing left of the product,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I'm with you a thousand percent. You'll be a fool
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: right now. If you were standing on the corner right
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: now and you sell to 20 people Nine times out
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: of ten, six of them people was confidential informants. The cop,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: the fed that locked me up, right? So we sitting
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: in front of the county jail at the time and
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: the door still locked like the gate because they got
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: to pull up to the gate, press the buzzer, say
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: who they are, let them in because the fed is
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: going to take you to your nearest county, right? So
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: they take me to Essex County. So we sitting there
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: waiting for the cops to come out and get me,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: but it's hot in the car. So the fed dude
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: take me out. He take me out the car and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: we just sitting there. We leaning and we talking. And
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: the first thing I say to him, I'm like, hey,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: are you like Grand Theft Auto?
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Like that.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: He like, yeah, why? I'm like, because our indictment was sealed,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: meaning I still don't know what I'm locked up for.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so if this was Grand Theft Auto, right,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: how many stars I got? Like, so I'm joking with
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the way, I'm like, yo, how many stars I got? Like,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I got five. Yeah, I'm like, I got three. I'm like, yo,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I got three stars. I got five. He start laughing
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: hard as hell.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: You feel me?
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm caught now. You feel me? I'm trying to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: figure out. He like... You probably got like three and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: a half. Like that. I'm like, oh, all right. That's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: not bad. I know if it was a man down
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: or a hat or some shit, he probably would have
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: said five. He said three and a half.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not too bad.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Cool, cool, right.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? There's some light at the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: end of the tunnel here. There's no footage in my mind.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to play with them and make a joke
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: because we was talking the whole car ride. I'm asking
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: them like, yo, man, with 60 cars out there, man,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: it's that deep for little old me? I'm just trying
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: to fish and shit, and they seem like young dudes
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: or whatever. So fast forward all that. That was funny.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to break.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: All that out there for little old me?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Them in the car, and I'm trying to break it down.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: So as we waiting for the dudes, you know what
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: And I feel like.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: That's what got this statement out of him for me.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: Like me, how cool I was the whole time. He like,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: he's standing there, he grab his vest. You know how
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: them cops do. He like, man, I don't know why
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: y'all do it.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Like that.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what? He like, this street shit. I laugh.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what you mean? He like, shit, we got
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: about 400 confidential informants in here and we have about,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: about at least another 350, 400 confidential informants in Essex
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: County right now working actively on payroll. And, That shit
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: just gave me the chills.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: The motherfucker can make two, three hundred a year being
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: a confidential informant.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Don't say that number again, please. No, I'm just saying.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: You guys should be just Googling that motherfucker. They hear
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: that like this.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: No, because I heard that.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: I know what you mean. He ain't lying, though.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: He ain't lying. But fast fuck that. Got shot five times. Prison.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 5: Now we got the music. I just heard the record
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: with Cocky Cod. Shout out to Cocky Cod.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Shame on me. Shout out to Cocky Cod. Shout out
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: to Brooklyn, man.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Brooklyn, you know the vibes, man.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: So how'd you go about that with Cocky Cod? Because
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: you're doing shit with all the right artists.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Right. Shout out to Cocky Cod.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Lee Ford, Cocky Cod, Benny the Butcher.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Da Vorey record is dope.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Fresh. I just came home. I wasn't
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: First of all, Steve was on my ass about like, Paul's.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: About the coming home.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: About the coming home and doing the rapper shit. And
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: like I said, the nigga shit.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: You feel me?
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Like I'm talking to Steve. I'm like, yeah, nah, the
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: jet from Michigan. Steve like, fuck, get the fuck out
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: of here. We're not doing none of the, you know
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So I kind of changed my mindset
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: and I said, you know what? The first three, four
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: months that I get home, I'm not doing nothing. I'm
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: not showing my face. I'm not, these niggas got like,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: I just was going for my daughter for four years. Like,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: you feel me? My mom, my support system, like, the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: first thing you do is go to Starlet's.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I got to get some real lifetime. Right, right, right. Like, yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: fuck all that.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: You said the first thing you do is go to Starlet's?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: You ain't eat with your daughter? You ain't, I had
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to have a conversation with, you know what I mean? Like,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: my mom's, see where her head at, her feelings. I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: was taken abruptly from her. It's a different conversation on
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: the federal floor, visit floor, than it is, I'm free now,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: what's up? Like, how do we got to go? Like,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I hurt your feelings. How can I fix that? What
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: can we do? I got to have conversations with multiple people.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I got to have business conversations with multiple people. I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: got to get a bag. I got to get a,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: it just wasn't in me. Like, don't meet me outside
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: with five chains, three Rolls Royces. I don't want to even,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: I don't want to walk outside to the fake shit.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Because none of that shit really even matter in life. Like,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, if you can't be
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: out there with a bag of peace, you know what
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I mean? A brick of love. I like that. You
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like, that type of shit. So,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: In the midst of that, to go back to your question,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: in the midst of me sitting down for three, four
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: months and getting myself together and my mental too, because
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: mental health, Matt, that's a whole other conversation as far
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: as men. But getting my mental together, I'm also taking
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and I'm being an artist. I'm studying who hot, who dope,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: who in right now, what podcast is in right now.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: Shout out to y'all.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: Shout out to a lot of podcasts that I want
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: to do. I was beasting to ask Steve. I was
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: beasting to get down with y'all. I need to get
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: with y'all. Y'all the big homies, you feel me? So,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: I'm doing my homework and I come across Khaki Khan.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this kid is phenomenal. He's special.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: And so I hit his line.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: He from my backyard. He's new. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, dawg, special. You feel me? And I
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: shot him some records. And then we had formally met
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: at Summer Jam. You know what I mean? I performed
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: at Summer Jam. He performed at Summer Jam. We bumped
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: into each other. You know what I mean? We got
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: to the studio. Man, I get in there and I'm
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: thinking we about to throw some beats on and figure
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: something out. Him in there, Fresher in there. Shout out
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: to Fresher. That's my dog.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Fresher.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: Another Brooklyn, East New York native right there.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: I ain't going to lie. Not because you're a Brooklyn nigga, right?
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: But just because I know. Yo, y'all spit out some
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: quality niggas.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Of course, man.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been around a lot of places around
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. Brooklyn spit out. It's some shady
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: shit going on in Brooklyn.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: That's Brooklyn.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: That's why it's Brooklyn.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: But it's inside Brooklyn, though.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's inside Brooklyn.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: It's all good. When you... What's the word I'm looking for?
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I want to say abstract. When you abstract the man,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: when you abstract the nigga from Brooklyn, though, and we
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: just talking about the nigga, Brooklyn makes some good niggas, though.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Nah, definitely, man. Definitely, man. Definitely, man.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking we about to just throw the beats
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: on and shit like that. And he like, nah, I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: got this shit for you. And I hear that shit.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, yeah, I got this.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: This easy.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Like, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: Pain music, man. That shit, I love that one.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: When it's your life, it's easy. You know what I mean? Like,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: some niggas be like, yo, how do you get, like,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: writer's block and all this shit? Like, I got too
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: much going on to get writer's block. Like, all this
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: shit be my life. Like, you know what I mean? So,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that shit, once I heard that shit.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: But don't feel sometimes you've been rapping for so long, like,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: all right, damn, right? How do I talk about my life.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Again? Like, and keep reinventing myself a little bit.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Like, how do I switch it up and still, because
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: You know, the streets still want to hear certain shit
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: from you.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Even though you might not be in the streets like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: you used to be.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: But you still going, when you giving these talk on
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: these projects, you still going to talk your street shit. Right?
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: So you don't think sometimes it be a little hard.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: Like, damn, how do I remix my life now to
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: still get the streets what they looking for?
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy. I think I could, as
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: an up-and-coming artist that's from a trench level, I could
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: look at the careers of Jadakiss and look at the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: careers of Uncle Murder and say, these niggas have been
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: they self from the trenches and are... Black men doing
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: very well, okay. I don't need to be the best, biggest,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: wildest artist in the world. I need to make it.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I need to be okay. I could look at Uncle
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Murda and say, he's doing well. I could look at
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Jadakiss and say, he's doing well. Oh, it's light at
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel for me.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: As long as your core fans fuck with you and
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: they rocking with you, I'm good.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Jadakiss said that you can survive with a thousand fans.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman That's a fact.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman You can survive for the rest of your life.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: I don't need a hundred million people to know me.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman I feel like skills pay the bills.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 5: People don't accept battle rappers as fucking good rappers all
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 5: the time. They try to keep y'all in a box.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 5: He can battle, but his record is fucking bullshit.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: But when I see you, I see the transition. Like,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: when I hear the record with Kaki Kai, right? When
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: I hear you with Leaf Ward, I'm like, how do
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 5: you get to the Leaf Ward shit? Because I hear
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: Victory Lap and I hear Perks and Paranoia. And that
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: was a dope.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I'm a super fan. I'm like, I'm going to be
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: a thousand.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: Free Leaf Ward again.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Super, super Free Leaf. Like, modestly, I'm a rapper's rapper. Like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: that's my thing. If I call you to rap, you nice, period.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Leaf Ward is every, is nice. And I just reached out,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: you feel me? And you know, like nine times out
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: of 10, well, since I've seen in my life. Nine
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: times out of ten, when I reach out to a
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: dope rapper, they know who I am already.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Facts. You know what I mean? Facts, of course, man.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Of course, man.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: You one of them niggas that don't think you a star.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: You being a... They curse me out all the time
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: about that shit.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: So, surf right there. Everybody knows you.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: They curse me out. All of the homies, my homies
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: and shit all the time, they be like, yo, why
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: you be acting like you ain't... You know what I mean?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Because it's... I say the same story. It's going to
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: sound repetitive, but it's like, If 20 dogs is in
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: the backyard and one dog got on a gold collar
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: with diamonds in it, who don't know he got a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: gold collar with diamonds on?
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: The dog.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: I can't see these chains. Like, you know what I mean? Like,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: I can't see none of this shit that, you know
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, I can't see what it look like. Oh,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: a serf walking in with four bitches.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: All I know is who I am.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Right. I'm just being myself. Yo, look, grab the driver,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: grab the bitches, grab this. So another nigga looking like, dang,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: he just walked in with, I'm just walking, you know
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: what I mean? So you kind of get caught up, but.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: I got to stop doing that because that's how you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: slip back into them old habits and shit like that.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Because everybody ain't happy for you.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Fuck no.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody ain't happy for you, man.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: Hell no. Like, we don't live in a world, like,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: life too hard to be like, and I'm not saying
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: you can't be happy for nobody, but you should, like,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: you should be so focused on yourself. It ain't even
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: that people don't need to be happy for you. You're
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: just so focused on my own shit. I ain't got
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: time to.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Be happy for you.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: So you right. Like a thousand percent, like either they
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: ain't happy for you.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Come around looking all good, looking like you just living
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: your best life, nigga.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know what it is?
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: You just know he a real nigga just cause skills
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: pay the bills and you can just know when a
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: real nigga saying some real shit. Like even when I
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 5: look at Rico part one, make sure y'all watch that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 5: on YouTube.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Like you got a.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 5: Young kid walking through the hood, going through all this shit,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 5: he chillin'. meet up with the homies, they talking, and
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 5: these niggas get blitzed by the police. Then he get
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 5: on the bus, some other shit happened. And at the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 5: end of the day, at the end of the video,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: I love that video too. The thought of it and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: everything like that, it adds substance to it. It's just
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 5: not microwave music. He goes and hugs his mom.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: That's his grandma, right?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: His grandma. He hugs his grandma, right? She looking at
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: the niggas in the car like, yeah, nigga ain't getting
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: no trouble with them niggas.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: It's like real life shit, bro.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: So I got it for like, so my mindset was
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm just trying to be different. Like, because
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: it's not one song. If you pay attention, it's like
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: five songs from my tape on there.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: It's five.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: So I was just thinking from a promotional standpoint, right?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, music was switching up.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: And then even like, so the headphone, my thought process
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: with the headphones, right, is like, I just look at
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: my younger self, right? Shout out to my little bro, too.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: He one of the best boxers in Newark. I wish.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: That shit video was crazy.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: So music was always my third, my life. You know
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? And either I could have kept my
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: headphones on, from an analogy standpoint. I could have kept
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: my headphones on, or I could have stayed on the porch.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Or I could have been the nigga running in the store,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: shit like that. So my thought process with it was,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: the headphones make him bulletproof. So if you notice every
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: time he put the headphones on, like why would the
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: cops run directly?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: You thought of that whole concept.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's mine. So it's like, he's sitting there with
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: the homies and he go to walk off and the
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: headphones come on and like the cops, like once he disappeared.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: So the cops just run past him. I mean, so
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: he go in the store to grab his snacks and stuff.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Dude's coming in there to rob him. He put his
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: headphones on and he disappeared. You know what I mean?
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: But like from a subcon, he don't know that, but
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the music and, but your headphones, like as a black
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: kid growing up, like, Your headphones could be anything. It
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: could be a basketball. It could be a pencil. It
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: could be a, and just keep your headphones on.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: And that'll keep you away from what's going on.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Just keep your, and that's where that really came from.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Like just keep, you know what I mean? If you boxing,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: stay in the gym. Like if you play basketball, play basketball.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And I genuinely feel like
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: if you do what the fuck you're supposed to do,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: like a lot of that stuff will veer around you.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: So some people will see it like that and understand like,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: oh shit, the headphones make them invisible. And then some
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: people will look at it like, Oh, he just a
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: lucky motherfucker and he minding his business. So either which
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: ways you want to see it.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Look at it. Long as you get the point.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, fuck my head up.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: Because when I seen the truck pull up while he's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: on the porch talking to the homies and shit, I
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: thought niggas was getting hit. And it was police chasing niggas.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: So it was like, what do you call it? Double soundtrack,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: whatever they call it. I thought niggas was going to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 5: shoot niggas. And then it was the police that ran out.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: Then you went to the next scene. Felt like some
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: ill streets is watching type shit.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: Nah, fuck with you, bro. You one of them, bro.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: That means a lot coming from y'all.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 5: Like I said, battle rappers can rap, don't get me wrong,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: but people love to keep them in that fucking box.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: You one of them niggas, like I said, Cocky Cobb
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: records crazy. Lee Ford records are crazy. The record with
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 5: Vorey is crazy. Even the video of Wyclef. Did he
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 5: bring out one of them rare cars?
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: What was that?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Five million? Shout out to Clef, man.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 5: You know, he got Al Capone. I think he bought
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: Al Capone car years ago when.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: I was 50. That Jasper and Nook, man. Yeah, 7
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Mil in the city.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: So how do you get Wyclef to fucking Legend of
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 5: Grammy Award winner, all kinds of guys, that guy?
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: How do you get him to come to your video.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: Shoot, bro?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Well, that was his work. So he reached out to
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: me to put me on his record. Big Bro always,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: he's super Jersey. You know what I mean? He always
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: hold it. He from New Jersey, Sheldon Clef. He always
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: hold it down. You feel me? I'm locked up. I'm
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: in a pen at the time. I mean, I'm in
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the county still. I don't know what's going on. We
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: watching the VMAs. You know what I mean? Wyclef Holston,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? He like, right before Shakira
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: come on, he like, yeah, and coming up next, free
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: to wave, New Jersey, Shakira. You feel me? Like that.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: And it just make a nigga feel good. Like, damn,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: I ain't forgot. You feel me? Something like that. So
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: he forever in my favor. Anything that nigga call me for, like,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I pray to God he only call me.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: For good stuff.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Because if he didn't, I'm still there. You know what
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: I mean? Like, for real. And he always show me love.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: He always pick up the phone. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Shit like that.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: So.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: I came home and he like, yo, I need this record.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I got Herb on it already. I need you. Like,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm about to remix the remix. I need you on it.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: I said, all right, let's work. So, you know, and
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: then we shot the video in the hood.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Yo, if you could choose your next three opponents, I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: know you already said Murder Mook.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Who would it be?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: The other two that you want to battle right now
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 4: for that bag.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Who would it be? That I want to?
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, to get this shit turned up. Even though we
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: know Mook said... He ain't trying to step in front
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: of you right now. He don't want to be the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: first one respectfully. He might do it. He might want
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: to see how you move him when you're on the
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: come home.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: It's probably not a fun or spicy answer, but it's
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: like from a want to standpoint, it's really only move
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: in a sense. Anybody else, I would literally just be
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: doing it because they got the number that I want.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: It ain't nobody named that I could say, I ain't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: going to lie. He really dog walking shit. I got it.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Years ago, like, I'd come home and it'd always be
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: somebody just tweaking. I'm like, I need to see, like,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Geechee Gotti at one point.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Like, oh.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I came home from, yeah.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I ain't come home. I had just, after I got shot,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I was down for a minute. And, like, Geechee popped.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: I went Geechee. You know what I mean? After I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: came home from the 17, shit, Nitty was hot at
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, give me Nitty.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: This time when I came home, it just, it wasn't nobody,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, outside of the moot thing. So,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: it's like, any one of them could get it for the,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Bright price, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: But Mook is the only one.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: That's like, oh, this got to happen.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: At some point it's going to happen, I'm sure.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: Got you. We need somebody to make that happen.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: Pay that money, man. Pay that money, Smack.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Before them other people do. Once them other people do,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean other people, like another league. My
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: goal is to be comfortable. You know what I mean?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not chasing nothing. I ain't got no... I don't
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: got a car. Like, I don't drive. I had a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: driver for the last seven, eight years. The same dude. Like,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I don't got the dreams that niggas be having, this
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: shit like that. So it's like, I don't need much.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Once I hit that right number, I'm going into chill mode.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Fuck y'all mode.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: Like, why would I be battle rapping and I'm up
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: five mil? Now 250 don't make sense at all. You
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? So it's definitely, I want to battle.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: And I would like to battle before that situation. Because
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: if you look up and one of these people say, hey, listen, look,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: we about to change your life. We like what you're doing.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: It's over.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 3: We need that.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: Yo, listen, it'll be good for the game. We need
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: you to battle somebody. We've been waiting for you to
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: come home.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Enrico. And that's great.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: He said, y'all other battle rappers ain't even in the conversation.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, nice and nice. Oh, nah. Battle rappers got some
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: of the best rappers in the world from a technical standpoint.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: We talking about words and penmanship.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: We talking about levels. That's what I'm just saying. Levels.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, yeah, but there's a lot
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: more work that got to be done.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Gotcha.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: But away from the battle rap. Look, sir, Rico, right?
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Real inside.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: So, Rico, who are we looking forward to being on Rico, man?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Shout out to producers first. You feel me? First and foremost,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: shout out to my dog, Shark. Shout out to Vior.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Shout out to, like I said, Hitmaker. Shout out to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Ky going crazy. You got to go producers first, but...
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: from a creative standpoint, um, uh, Herbo on it. As
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: soon as I got home, Herb got right with me.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: As soon as I got home.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Shout to G Herbo.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: Shout to Herbo. He in his bag right now. He
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: in his bag right now.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Niggas can't, niggas can't fuck with my son.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Nah, Herbo, he's, he's one of them.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: Niggas don't know about his verse he got on, on
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: Bloodhound Jeff, Bloodhound Lil Jeff, rest in peace.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: That R verse, that's one of my, that's one.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Of his, he got, he got, I ain't gonna lie,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: like I, I had a record, it's called, it's called
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Nana Crib, it's me, him, and Mozzy, and um, Like
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I know Herb go, but it's me and Mozzy though.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, I had Mozzy on it first already
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: and me. So I'm like, I guess it ain't going
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: to be like, I'm good.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I put, man, Herb jumped on that shit, dog.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: Walked on it.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I always tell you, I'm like, yo,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Herb got the best version. I ain't gonna lie. Herb
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: got crazy on it. It's hard to keep up with
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: surfing Mozzy, man. Herb got on that bitch talking crazy.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: To me, Herb got the best version of that shit.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: He could rap. Herb go crazy. I'm Herb. Herb on
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: that motherfucker, Mazzy, of course, I don't really go nowhere without, bro.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Anybody that'll call to the jail and tell you they
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: need you on their album, and you went 128 lower.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: Got to pay homage to that.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: That's a fact.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Salute Mazzy on that, man. Real nigga shit.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: Didn't Fetty bring you out, what, presidential center?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: Fetty brought me out to presidential center.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: How was that, man? How'd you feel?
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I was crazy. Shout out to Fetty Watt, Big Zoo.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Fetty, man.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: First one, he drop kicked the door for Jersey.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: That's a fact.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: So it's always love with him. He showed me the
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: utmost love. You feel me? Shout out to him. Free him.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: He just.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: He just came home.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 3: I was summer gym for you.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: To be home at the Prudential Center.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: You and Al Bial came out, right?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Al Bial came out too. Shout out to Al
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: Bial again. That's my dog too. That shit felt crazy
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: for real. It's like Shakur Stevenson walking out fighting at Prudential. Right, right, right.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Shakur from Jersey too, right?
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jersey popping right now.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: Shakur Stevenson is from Newark. I didn't even know that.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Jalen Bronson from Jersey.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: Jersey popping right now, man.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: You want to talk about Jersey?
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Bronson popping right now. Little Hannah Hidalgo from Notre Dame.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Look at that. Jersey popping right there.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Scissor. Shout out to Tip Thomas. I know Tip Thomas.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Ice-T from Jersey.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing? Kyrie Irving.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: He from Jersey.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people from Jersey.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Jersey. Let's go, Jersey.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: Jersey popping right there.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Shoot, surf. Shit, extra lit. And the captain at home.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: It's awesome.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: September 10th, nigga's going down. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: September 10th, Rico is coming out. This man is the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: king of battle rap, and now he's taking the king
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 5: of fucking regular fucking rap, and he want half a
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: million to battle, and he's fucking been shot, went to jail.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman, Jr.: That shit is dead. Rob Markman, Jr.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: But he's home now, man. Make some noise for Sue, sir.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: Let's make that murder mook battle happen. Let's make that
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: battle happen. Let's get that bag up, man.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: Like, share, and subscribe. It's The Real Report. We out. Jersey!
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: September 10th.