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CIA'S TINFOIL HAT | TOPLOBSTA & THE RAVAN · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Raised by Giants Live discussion. Good to
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  Speaker 1: We have a really fun show plan for you guys
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  Speaker 1: here today that I've been looking forward to. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to figure out a lot of things, and we're going
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  Speaker 1: to figure out where the whole tinfoil hat stuff comes
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  Speaker 1: from with top Lobster, the Raven are here from the
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  Speaker 1: Nuphalom Death Squad to bring chaos, insights, and laughter and
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  Speaker 1: of course some nehal shit. Welcome gentlemen. How's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, what's up? You did tell me we're gonna bring laughter.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't come prepared for laughter. A shit? Pull up?
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  Speaker 3: Let me pull up those notes really quickly, just the
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  Speaker 3: notes on comedy. Does anybody have the notes on notes?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Man? Thanks for having us. Uh, this is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be fun. This is We're gonna spread as much
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  Speaker 2: misinformation as possible. We're gonna make it. We're gonna blow
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  Speaker 2: the lines of truth and reality and hopefully somebody catches
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  Speaker 2: us in the lie. Hopefully they don't, but they probably will.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm excited to just hop right into this. David,
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  Speaker 2: what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what we're doing, but thank you
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  Speaker 3: Ryder Lee for having us. Yeah, we're gonna work out
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  Speaker 3: something here on your show. We actually just did a
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  Speaker 3: bit of content on it. We've had a secret that
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  Speaker 3: we've been keeping.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, within the.
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  Speaker 3: Conspiracy community, if you happen to uncover something that you
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  Speaker 3: think is compelling and nobody else is talking about it,
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  Speaker 3: that becomes a mad rush to try to produce and
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  Speaker 3: disseminate that to people before that idea gets spread. Because
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  Speaker 3: sometimes I think they're like a live It's like as
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  Speaker 3: soon as you have a good idea, somebody else gets
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  Speaker 3: that idea, then the race is on.
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  Speaker 1: So bro every single time that happens, Dude, every time
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  Speaker 1: I have a really good idea and I don't do it,
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  Speaker 1: it's so weird. I've had this happen so many times,
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  Speaker 1: have a really good idea and I don't act on it.
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  Speaker 1: Somewhere sometimes the next day or yes or even the
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  Speaker 1: next week, somebody is doing that exact thing that I
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  Speaker 1: had an idea to do well.
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  Speaker 3: It's had that similar experience writer where we came up
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  Speaker 3: with this and we realized what we stumbled on and
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  Speaker 3: if it's real, then we really have to figure this
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  Speaker 3: out quick and we got to make sure we present
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  Speaker 3: it the right way. And less than a week later,
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Ian Carroll is talking about something
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  Speaker 3: adjacent to what we're going to talk about here today,
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  Speaker 3: and so the race is on. As soon as that happened,
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  Speaker 3: we had to get out and start cranking out the
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  Speaker 3: content and explaining what's been knocking around in our mind.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's funny about this, So the idea
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  Speaker 2: of us having us having this idea working it out,
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  Speaker 2: like we were calling each other. We did like not
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  Speaker 2: not an episode about it, but we we hinted at it,
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  Speaker 2: and people were starting to put stuff together. We then
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  Speaker 2: we finally spoke about it. We do a show with
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  Speaker 2: this guy, Clint Russell of Liberty Lockdown. It's called Dangerous
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  Speaker 2: Retards What Up And it's like a political show and
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  Speaker 2: like current events and stuff. But I was like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you about this shit about these kids.
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  Speaker 2: So I started telling him about it, and uh, then
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  Speaker 2: a couple days later, Ian Carroll picks it up. But
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  Speaker 2: the subject of this show and the subject of like
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  Speaker 2: what we've been looking at, he actually speaks about this,
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  Speaker 2: and this was something that we didn't cover in our
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  Speaker 2: deep dive of this man Andrija Puharich. So this is
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  Speaker 2: the guy that we're going to get into. I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know if I should jump the gun, but uh,
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  Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm gonna jump the gun here. We're just gonna, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna. So he wrote a book called Beyond Telepathy,
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  Speaker 2: and he speaks about this thing called, uh psy plasma.
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  Speaker 2: And I know, this is like, since we're jumping in
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  Speaker 2: like cold feet, right into the deep end, it's like
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  Speaker 2: gonna be a little confusing to navigate you through these waters.
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  Speaker 2: But he describes py plasma as like a fundamental component
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  Speaker 2: of consciousness responsible for the psychic phenomenon. And that's like
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  Speaker 2: the first half of this book is just completely about
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  Speaker 2: py plasma, and he's it's it's kind of out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's what it is. When you have that
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  Speaker 2: idea and it's in the ether, it's in the plasma,
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  Speaker 2: people start to pick up on it if they're tuned
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  Speaker 2: in the right way, So apologies to Ian Carroll if
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  Speaker 2: I was a little bit upset with you at first.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you, uh per se, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you jacked our shit, but I do think that you're
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  Speaker 2: tuned into the si plasma.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and anil thing happened when the telephone was created.
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  Speaker 3: It was like somebody on the other side of the
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  Speaker 3: country with no connection to the original developer, also within
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  Speaker 3: a pretty reasonable timeframe, created a secondary telephone. So I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, it's like these things happen and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden they permeate this. I don't know what you
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  Speaker 3: call it, the Akashak records, collective consciousness. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if you subscribe to that sort of a thing, but
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  Speaker 3: it does seem that ideas are much more than just
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  Speaker 3: this thing that takes place in your mind. They're almost
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  Speaker 3: more like something that you tune into. So yeah, hopefully
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  Speaker 3: we can get this out for anybody else tunes in.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you also, I think it's like kind of like
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  Speaker 1: an infinite data field of like information that's just around us.
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  Speaker 1: So some people refer to that as a Kashak record,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that there's these just these ideas that
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  Speaker 1: are out there and then certain people can tune into them.
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  Speaker 1: But then they it's like I don't know if they're
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  Speaker 1: getting it all at once or of like several people
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  Speaker 1: all at the exact same time, or if someone passes
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  Speaker 1: on an idea then it goes to the next person.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really know exactly how.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like the idea is alive and it's going
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  Speaker 3: to people and it's asking to be presented. It needs
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  Speaker 3: it's a we are the conduit by which it enters
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  Speaker 3: this realm, and it's trying to see like who's gonna
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  Speaker 3: do it?
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  Speaker 4: Who's gonna talk about me? Is it gonna be these people?
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  Speaker 3: And and for a second, and that idea knocked on
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  Speaker 3: Nefolm Death Squad's door, and that I think we were
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  Speaker 3: just a little bit too slow, but to that point,
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  Speaker 3: and it knocked on Ian Carroll's door, and then it
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  Speaker 3: lit a fire.
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  Speaker 4: Under our ass.
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  Speaker 3: But to your point about this, this like you know,
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  Speaker 3: idea of almost it's like they're they're interacting with us.
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  Speaker 3: I was just driving back to the gym after our
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  Speaker 3: last episode that we just did maybe a couple of
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  Speaker 3: hours ago, and it's a two parter episode. This topic
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  Speaker 3: that we're gonna bring you today, so we're gonna give
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  Speaker 3: you like an abridged version. But the question becomes, after
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  Speaker 3: you present the theory, to what end, what happens?
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  Speaker 4: Where is this all going?
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't quite have an answer for that until
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  Speaker 3: I was driving to the gym and it hit me
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  Speaker 3: like somebody threw a rock at my head, to the
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  Speaker 3: point where I had to stop driving, pull out my phone,
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  Speaker 3: call top and say I think I figured it out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I figured out anything. I think they
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  Speaker 3: just come knocking when they when they're ready.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this was the idea of a this is
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  Speaker 2: this is a previous episode, one of the first episodes
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  Speaker 2: we did on that FOLM Death Squad with this guy
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  Speaker 2: Jerry Marzinski.
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  Speaker 1: And love Jerry.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, great dude. He's been on the show twice. He
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  Speaker 2: came on the second time with one of his ex
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  Speaker 2: patients that kind of gave his testimony about how he
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  Speaker 2: recovered from schizophrenia. And basically, Jerry's whole thing is that
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  Speaker 2: schizophrenia is not a mental disorder per se, but it's
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  Speaker 2: entities that we are perceiving through our heads like a
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  Speaker 2: radio wave, which pertains very much to what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about. I know, we're just like this
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  Speaker 2: is four play four play four, We're gonna get to it, right,
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  Speaker 2: It just gets from second. We're trying to set the table.
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  Speaker 1: But thirty minutes of four play leaves. That's the standard
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  Speaker 1: amoun for. That's what I've heard, That's what I've been
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  Speaker 1: told doctors. Thirty minutes four point.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's necessary, trust the science whatever. So Jerry,
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  Speaker 2: he's a he thinks that not many of your thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: if any, are your own. I think he said like
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  Speaker 2: eighty five percent or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Eighty to eighty five percent of your of the thoughts
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  Speaker 3: that pass through your mind are not yours.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he says.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which might make a little bit of sense here
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  Speaker 2: touching on this subject, But are you guys ready to
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  Speaker 2: to like look at this guy and get into this thing.
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  Speaker 3: Let's look at him. Oh, well, you have a picture
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  Speaker 3: of him, because he is he is a staggering kind
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  Speaker 3: of a character to look at. He's got a visage
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  Speaker 3: about him. I can pull up too hard, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: very much ready. This guy he ends up becoming almost
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  Speaker 3: a starting point for so many things that plague us today.
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  Speaker 3: Right when it comes to I would say, like the
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  Speaker 3: MK Ultra program all the way to UAP disclosure and
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  Speaker 3: the alien abduction phenomenon, Like all of these things tie in.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of like we're here to present you the
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  Speaker 3: theory of everything almost, uh and so top, where do
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  Speaker 3: you want to start with?
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  Speaker 2: Andre?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Can we a picture of him?
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  Speaker 3: He looks very cool, does look He looks like an
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  Speaker 3: old timey, you know, wild West scientist, back when when
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  Speaker 3: when scientists were considered like cowboys or superstars. It's my
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  Speaker 3: understanding that we went through this time in American history
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  Speaker 3: where scientists were regarded as like rock stars, and we've
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  Speaker 3: certainly moved away from that these days. But this guy
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  Speaker 3: is a remnant, right, He's an echo of a time
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  Speaker 3: where scientists were rock stars and when the paranormal and
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  Speaker 3: the supernatural were not pseudo science. They were a legitimate
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  Speaker 3: field of study, so much to the extent that this
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  Speaker 3: man dedicated, you know, a disproportionate.
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  Speaker 4: Amount of time and resources to that study.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He looks like a shoemaker or like a hoof maker,
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  Speaker 1: horse hoof makers.
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  Speaker 2: He looks exactly like what you'd expect, like this old
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  Speaker 2: timey kind of scientist. But people don't necessarily know where
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  Speaker 2: to put him. Like, he's a scientist, he's a he's
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  Speaker 2: an experimenter, he's a he's evil. It's kind of all
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  Speaker 2: these things.
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  Speaker 3: He's just willing to put in a box. That's what
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  Speaker 3: he is. He will not be put in a box.
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  Speaker 3: And he keeps you know what he is. He's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like the granddaddy of a conspiracy theorist in the
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  Speaker 3: sense that you know, you were talking about the the
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  Speaker 3: tinfoil hat, and maybe that's a good place to start,
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  Speaker 3: just to show how the tinfoil hat goes all the
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  Speaker 3: way back to Pooharaj. He's he's like our mascot, you know,
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  Speaker 3: as conspiracy theorist. Do you want to elaborate on that?
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  Speaker 2: So there are I guess there it's not like misconceptions.
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  Speaker 2: But there are different stories about where the tinfo hack
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  Speaker 2: came from. You told us one in the pre chat,
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  Speaker 2: and if you want to tell it again, because it's
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  Speaker 2: a I've never heard that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, this is where I thought that it
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  Speaker 1: came from because I didn't know about this Pooh Pootari
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  Speaker 1: porridge guy that you're talking about. So Paul Benowitz in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eighty lived in New Mexico, and he lived
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  Speaker 1: right next to an Air Force base, and he thought
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  Speaker 1: that he was seeing UFOs, like aliens UFOs, and but
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  Speaker 1: it was right next to an Air Force base. So
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  Speaker 1: it's advanced Air Force technology that he was seeing that
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  Speaker 1: he was misidentifying as UFOs, right, So then he contacts
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  Speaker 1: the Air Force and he's like, hey, I'm seeing these
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  Speaker 1: really strange, weird crofts. And they take him in for
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  Speaker 1: like a briefing and they're like, oh, well, that's pretty
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  Speaker 1: interesting what you got there, Paul. Which I'm giving you
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  Speaker 1: the short version. There's way more to the story. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just giving you the cliff notes so he can move
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  Speaker 1: through it. So then he's then the Air Force is like,
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  Speaker 1: that's some really interesting stuff he got there, Paul. And
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  Speaker 1: then they end up getting him in contact with this
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  Speaker 1: guy named Richard Dody. I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 1: are familiar with who Richard Dody is. He's an Air
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  Speaker 1: Force Office of Special Investigations, essentially a dis and misinformationalist.
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  Speaker 1: So they sent him to Paul Benowitz's house and essentially
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  Speaker 1: convinced him that what he was seeing was indeed alien
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  Speaker 1: craft and the NSSA actually broke into his home and
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  Speaker 1: replaced his laptop with an NSSA modified laptop to convince
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  Speaker 1: him that he's communicating with aliens. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff that we hear about within the community today
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  Speaker 1: came from the NSSA talking to Paul Benowitz through HISP,
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  Speaker 1: which had him convinced that it was aliens and not
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  Speaker 1: really the NSSA. Things like the government signed a contract
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  Speaker 1: with extraterrestrials and they created this base in New Mexico
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  Speaker 1: where humans and extraterrestrials work together, that they're here too
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  Speaker 1: for our resources. Like just an array of things that's
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  Speaker 1: permeated throughout the community. And it got to such a
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  Speaker 1: big point where Paul is so like paranoid and like
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  Speaker 1: essentially traumatized because the NSA had his house bug, the
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  Speaker 1: Air Force had his house bug, the police had his
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  Speaker 1: house bug. It was like this huge thing that was
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  Speaker 1: going on, and this was all just to play with
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  Speaker 1: Paul Benowitz's mind to get him off the track that
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  Speaker 1: the craft that he was seeing was that it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: military technology, that it was aliens. And he already believed
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  Speaker 1: that it was aliens because he had never seen anything
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  Speaker 1: like it before, but it was really advanced military technology.
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  Speaker 1: And it got to this point where he got so
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  Speaker 1: paranoid that he would essentially tinfoil out everything in his home.
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  Speaker 1: He got in contact with this gentleman, the psychiatrist from
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  Speaker 1: Wyoming called Leo Sprinkle, that came down to his house
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  Speaker 1: to regress this woman that I got in contact with him,
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  Speaker 1: the claim that she was being abducted by aliens, that
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  Speaker 1: aliens were shooting laser beams into her home and abducting
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  Speaker 1: her and everything. And he would only do these regressions
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  Speaker 1: like Paul would only want Sprinkle to do the regressions
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  Speaker 1: inside of his Cadillac that had completely been tenfoiled out
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  Speaker 1: in his grouage.
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  Speaker 3: That's a cool Cadillac, dude, imagine some imagine owning that Cadillac.
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  Speaker 4: I would pay good money to have.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Cadillac, great car would of the higher side
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  Speaker 2: Chats has a I think it's a prius. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what it was.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's a suv some kind of car, but it's wrapped.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a full rap with like a repeating logos
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  Speaker 2: of the higher side Chats. When when he pulled up
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  Speaker 2: to Sam Tripley's show, and I just think Sam Tripley
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  Speaker 2: needs like a literal tinfoil hat car.
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  Speaker 5: Crinkly tinble hat needs a car with like an actual
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  Speaker 5: tinfoil hat on it, you know what I mean, like
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  Speaker 5: a big point. It just crunched up one, all right,
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  Speaker 5: So let's get into that.
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  Speaker 2: So that guy's in nineteen seventy eight.
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  Speaker 1: You said, yeah, it's seventy eight, seventy nine is the area,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that your guy is way further back.
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  Speaker 4: Correct, he's further back, but it's way similar.
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  Speaker 2: There's more though, because in nineteen seventy Wait, there's more
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  Speaker 2: because it keeps popping up and it's hard to put
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  Speaker 2: your finger on where exactly tinfoil hat was originated. So
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  Speaker 2: in seventy one, this guy, Leonard Kill, this comes from
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  Speaker 2: our friend Control Old History's he's the man. His stuff
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube is really good. He does like these deep dives.
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  Speaker 2: But this dude, Leonard Kill, in nineteen seventy one, he
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  Speaker 2: was one of the people that developed the Kodak camera.
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  Speaker 2: He was a like a somebody I guess he might
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  Speaker 2: have patented it or something like that. There was some
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  Speaker 2: kind of discrepancy. They went after him. They tried to
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  Speaker 2: call him crazy, and it turns out he was a
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  Speaker 2: little bit crazy. He was an eccentric dude. But the
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  Speaker 2: story goes on to say that he was I think
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  Speaker 2: he was having headaches or something like that. And he
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  Speaker 2: ended up having a brain surgery in seventy one. This
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  Speaker 2: was just a thing. They implanted a chip in his head.
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  Speaker 2: He went crazy. The story goes he's in a mental
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  Speaker 2: institution and he started to wrap his head in tinfoil. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So we have the origination of this foreign object going
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  Speaker 2: into someone's brain through surgery and remaining in his brain.
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  Speaker 2: So that's like people say, oh, tinfoil hat, that's where
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  Speaker 2: it comes from. It goes even further back. It goes
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  Speaker 2: to this motherfucker Andrijia Puharich and what he was doing.
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  Speaker 2: So in the wells, let me tell you a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about him. He comes out of nowhere. He's born
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  Speaker 2: in Croatia nineteen eighteen. He's a physician, inventor, parapsychologist, and
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  Speaker 2: he's not Jewish. I wrote that down for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: He went to Northwestern University in nineteen forty seven and
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  Speaker 2: he specialized in neurophysiology with regarding electrical impulses in the
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  Speaker 2: brain and body. He joined the military service like early
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  Speaker 2: fifties or late late forties, right around fifties, because this
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  Speaker 2: guy pops up on the main scene in fifty one.
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  Speaker 3: He was by the way, you're going to see that
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  Speaker 3: timeframe pop up a lot during everywhere. Yeah, during this
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  Speaker 3: So just keep that in mind. We're talking like forty
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  Speaker 3: five to fifty five.
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  Speaker 2: So what's significant about that is, like, so a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people do have a military background, and we're usually
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: suspicious and we joke around, but this dude was located
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: at Edgewood Arsenal Facility. That's where he was. I don't
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: know if you know anything about this place, but I
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: have a fucking crazy list here about what they were
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: doing here.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: A military base where they were just evaluating the impact
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: of load doing chemical agents on the military personnel. So
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: for like twenty years, they were.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Some of the first mk ultra programs. Was that right there?
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Ooh correct, you just soaped bingo.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: So this guy is there in the early in the
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: late forties, early fifties, and MK ulture is developed I
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: think in like fifty three or something like that. But
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: this is all a direct line and we can point
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: right at this guy he's doing it. But anyway, in
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Edgewood Arsenal, they are messing with LSD, benzodiazepine. Shout out
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: to Jordan Peterson, THHC derivatives like K two, like this
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: is one of some of our favorite things.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: These are a few of our things.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a CS gas like so riot controlled nerve agents,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: mustard gas nerve agents. I can't even say this word.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Colon estery inhibitors and other psychochemicals. This is what they
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: were doing for years there. And this guy he happens
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: to go to college to study this stuff and electrical
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: impulses in the brain, happens to go into the military
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: where he lands in this place Edgewood Arsenal. Not suspicious
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Right, And by the way, Rider that you know, these
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: things were lent to the very beginnings of MK ultra,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Like this is going to be another theme that we're
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: constantly going to dance around during this discussion.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: Well, they would also use like you were talking about
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: cs gown so they would essentially take a highly potent
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: version of LSD, which was called b Z. I don't
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: know if you guys have looked into this or not,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: but they would take BEZ out in these giant canisters
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and they would do like like outfield like simulations where
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they would have the soldiers go out into a field
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and they would just bust open all these giant barrels
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: of BZ and let it go across the freaking field
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: and hit all of the soldiers that were out there testing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Then they would go out and grab them, take them
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: into the building, and then ask them all kinds of weird, strange,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: crazy questions and they would basically go out of their mind.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Can I just say it must have been such a
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: cool time to be involved in like science and military intelligence.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Like, man, that's cool.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: You get to be the guy who open the barrel
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: and then runs like I want to be that guy.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: That's cool. How much did they pay that guy?
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Nowadays it's just like, hey, you want to want to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: cut off your penis?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Well, no, now they don't even do it because it
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: used to happen in like this controlled environment. Now they're
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: just doing to us, doing it to us on scale, right,
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: so there's nobody Now. The best is you get to
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: be the guy who flies the plane who sprays the chemicals.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: It's not as cool well, a.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Lot of those guys, they had their they made it
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: seem like that that didn't even happen to them. Like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: so all the test people that went to that area
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that got tested there were I think there was an
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: army to begin with, and then it kind of spread
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: out all over the place. But then they kind of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: went back and like wipe the record of them ever
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: being at that facility. And they wouldn't they wouldn't admit
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that they went through these tests, but they had all
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: these memories of them going through these weird and strange
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: chemical testing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Makes you wonder what they found.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It makes you wonder why this guy's uh by this
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: guy wasn't wiped from being at Edgewood Arsenal and everything
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: else he does, because when we start to lay this
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: out for you, you're gonna be like, that's not true,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: because it's everything that you think and talk about all
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: day long. It's this guy doing this shit. It's wild.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: So all right, he goes to Edgewood Arsenal, it comes out,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: starts doing testing immediately and one of the things one
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: of the first things that he was working on, which
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: it got a patent, He got a US patent granted
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty one, but he was working on this
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: much earlier. Was this dental implant technology. So basically it
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: was like I think of like a hearing aid, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: in your tooth. They replace your tooth, and this has
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: some sort of like metals in it and it'll like
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: connect to your connect to your jawbone and then just
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: send frequencies and vibrations to make you feel like you're
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: hearing stuff. So this guy was working on that for what.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I don't even know why they would grant this a patent.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know why they would think this is a
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: good idea, But the guy was doing this stuff on
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: a side tangent. L Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: He had a dental procedure around the fifties. After that
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: he almost died on the table during it, and then
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: he started getting the inspiration to create dianetics and then
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Scientology in nineteen fifty three.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Right, So.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I can't prove it. I can't prove that this that
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Pouharch was involved, but I can prove that this guy
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: almost died on the table of a dental operating a
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: dental operation and then was in contact with aliens from
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: out of space. And he creates an entire religion that
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: is still exists today that you know is basically a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: honeypo for celebrities. So you put that where you will.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's like extreme speculation on my end, I'll admit that.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: But little wait, well.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Where top is saying like, we don't know why or
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: what the point is. I mean, we can only speculate
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: as to why or what the point is. And that
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: speculation has a lot to do with the fact that
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: that theme keeps popping up, this dental implant, this receiving frequencies,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and then this communication with entities comes up over and
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: over and over again, and by the end of this,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I think the audience is going to be just as
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: crazy as we are.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: So this is where you get the story from. I
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: guess about the tinfoil hat, there's another dude that he
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: was investigating that had something he had, like a dental filling.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I think this might come around the time of his
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: invention with the this two thing. Another dude with a
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: dental filling, and he's going crazy. He went to a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: mental institution because he's hearing voices in his head. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Pohard shows up again to investigate. This is corroborated, or
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: at least it's it's tangentially told with the story of
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Lucille Ball from I Love Lucy. We actually have a video.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to watch this, but uh,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit long, but you guys can find
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it just Lucile Ball Japanese spy Communications. You can look
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that up on.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Some wild story. Actually.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I wasn't a where because the implications of
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: this are, like, oh, Lucille Ball like helped us to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: avoid some sort of real war issue with Japan. Like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: it's a very strange situation, and we're gonna end up
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: coming back to it too. But if we want to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: just give a quick overview top, if you don't mind. Yeah,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: basically what happens is Lucille Ball goes for you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: routine dental surgery, and then the next thing you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: she's having some sort of and I think it was
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: just filling. She's suddenly picking up music in her car
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: and she can't identify where the music is coming from,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden she realizes it's coming
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: from inside of her mouth. And we've seen this plot device,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: by the way, play out in all sorts of cartoons, right,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: You see this in cartoons a lot, especially old timey cartoons,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: because back in the day, you know, we're talking like
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: looney Tunes and such, this thing was still kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: a talking point. And she realizes that, you know, it's music,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and she even recognizes the melody. And so she goes
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: and she's told by somebody who says, like, oh, did
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: you happen to have a dental implant recently? She goes, yeah,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I did. And it turns out that this thing is
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: picking up this frequency. Now at some point, lucille Ball
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: actually goes on to pick up some sort of like
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: muttered communication. Turns out that there was a Japanese insurgents,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: you know, having radio communications in a covert way that
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: lucille Ball was able to pick up on, and then
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: because of that, our own military was able to use
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: that information to intercept the situations. Fucking that is really crazy,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: really really crazy.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And of course so this is it's like, oh my god,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: rider this is all happening. At the same time, she's
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Where where where I actually of that top that was
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: like in the fiftiesties, yeah, early fifties, all around the
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: same time.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: But I first picked this up on the telepathy tapes.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: They're talking about this, so I was like, what the hell,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And then they immediately mentioned Andrejia Puharich right after They're like, oh,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: by the way, a guy who was working on some
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: he found Lucile Bulls case interesting, and he was also
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: looking at a guy that went crazy and a mental institution,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and he had some kind of dental implant. And it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: has something to do with the type of metal that
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: they were using at the time for the filling. It
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: was picking up radio signals, so this might have been
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: where he either got the idea of how to do
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: it or intervened and actually like started just putting this
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: thing in people's mouths. I don't it's not clear.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: You've got to see this from our point of view, though. Writer.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: It's like we stumble upon Pooharridge and we go this
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: guy and we'll establish it as we do. This show
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: is like kind of the mascot for conspiracy theories, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: not a lot of people are talking about him. People
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: are aware of him, but not to the degree that
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: he's so like connected to all of this conspiracy lore
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and then all this and so we dedicate an entire
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: episode to him, it's an NDS deep dive where we
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: talk specifically about Booharridge and you know, how he's integrated
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: into all of these different aspects of conspiracy theory.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, this is you.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Know, and we're not gonna get straight into it yet,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: but I get this feeling that there's something happening with
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: the telepathy tapes, something that we don't quite understand, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that there is a deception within it. And I can't
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: help but shake this feeling to the extent that I
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: call Top. And to Top's credit, when we have an idea,
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Top is like the action guy. As soon as I
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: tell him something and he sees that it's like yeah,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I think you're right, he will dive into it and
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: start digging right. And so I get a call like,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know, a half an hour later or something
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: like that or later on in the day, and he goes, hey,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: listen to episode we lost Top there for a second.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Listen to episode three and listen to the first five minutes.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: And I listened to the first five minutes, and all
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, pooharage. The guy who we just did
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: a deep dive on is name dropped in this podcast
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: that I just got a weird feeling about. The whole
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: thing is like serendipitous, the way that we sort of
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: stepped in this hold on a second, let me see
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: if he said anything. Okay, he's gonna have to refresh
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: his his computer there.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't listened to the Telepathy tapes. I've heard people
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: talking about them and how they're so great and how
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: everything is going on. I just haven't. I don't know
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: enough about it, but I guess they explain everything within
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the tapes or something.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: You don't so the Telepathy tapes and I'll just kind
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: of go on this until Top comes back. I don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: know how much we're gonna unpack right at this point
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: in the show, but more or less, what happens is
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the parents, several parents of non verbal autistic children who
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: have been told by the medical industry that their children
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: are simply not in there. And you know, that's devastating
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: to a parent, and so a lot of these parents
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: don't take the medical industry's, you know, information as gospel.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: They kind of stick to this idea of like, no,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: my child is in there, and through one series of
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: events or another. They end up realizing that these children
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: can communicate, but in a very non traditional way. It
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: seems that they can communicate through telepathy. So what happens is,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: I believe her name is Kai Dickens, along with a
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: doctor I forget what her name is, they start to
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: pursue these stories and go and have communications with these families,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: and a lot of it just happens to like video
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: calls at first. But you have you know, one girl
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: from Mexico, her name is Mia, and her parents are
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: basically showing on this video recording to this doctor that
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: what essentially happens is the parents can think of a number,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and the children, though they're nonverbal, through I think it's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like supported typing or something like that. It's a method
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: of typing where nonverbal autistic children won't really engage with
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: the keyboard. But apparently they found that some of them,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: if they guide their hand a little bit and that
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: sounds sketchy, right, guiding their hand because it okay, tops
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: back by the way kopop theman, they will touch their
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: hand maybe at the wrist, and this will enable them
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: to start the typing process and then to alleviate that
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: suspicion of like you're you're touching a child by the wrist,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: they might you might be guiding them. They eventually moved
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that touch all the way up to the arm, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: they move it all the way up to the shoulder,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and some of them even touch them in the center
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: of the forehead. And then somehow this nonverbal autistic child
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: is engaging with this type this keyboard and predicting the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: numbers that the parents are thinking exclusively. Now, of course,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: this is just in a video call environment, so there's
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: a lot of studies that need to be done still,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: but they then go on to do those studies. Top
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I was just explaining a little bit about what the
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: telepathy tapes are because Writer actually hasn't seen them, which
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: you know, previous to that gut feeling that I had, Writer,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I also had not seen them, but I was like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know, suspicious of them. It just seems strange
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: to me, to be honest, that something that was typically
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: dismissed as pseudoscience, Not that I ever did that, but
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: certainly the scientific community at large dismissed it that way,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: would all of a sudden become the number one podcast
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: in the world. After Joe Rogan blows it up, and
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: so but we're gonna end up probably.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: We're in the golden age rare even, don't you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: We're in the golden age of humanity.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: The Cali Yuga is ending and now we are all
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: going to spiritually ascend and that means that information and
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: you know, nosis, all of that is coming our way,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: so very much looking forward to that top is that?
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Did you want to go there yet though, or do
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: you want to unpack some other stuff before we start
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: going into telepathy tapes? Also you're muted? Uh still other.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: We all right, We're good. I don't I don't really
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: know how to tell the story, to be honest, because
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: it's like it's all over the place, and it's constant.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: It's constantly interrupted by this guy Andrijia Puharch. So I
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: feel like it is when you get to a certain point,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, we kind of have to talk about
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the telepathy tapes now, Like with this lucild ballpoint is
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: a very interesting point to be like, Okay, but now
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the number one podcast in the world, or at least
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: for a time, and it's still being talked about by
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Rogan is talking about this in a weird way. They're
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: just like, she's briefly like just brushing it because I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: don't There's a couple of ways you can go. Either
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: she doesn't understand and can't put together the pieces, or
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: they have a better idea and they have a narrative
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to push, so this piece doesn't fit with their narrative.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that a good way to start to get
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: into this would be we've already established that Pooharage is
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: operating pretty much at the end of World War Two
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and the very beginnings of the mk Ulture program, And
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: there is a line that we've discovered that shows like
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: the mk Ulture Program would have had a vested interests
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and especially that sort of you know, voice of God technology,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: this ability to project radio waves and frequencies at a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: human being and have them perceive them audibly, and so
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: the the dental implant was kind of like the initiator
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: to that. But I think it's also worth noting that
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: during Operation paper Clip, where we took over all these
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Nazi scientists right after World War Two, right at the
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: beginning of this program, a lot of their research, Mangla's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: research and things like that. You know, he was obsessed
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: with like the psychic connection between twins and all of
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: these horrifying experiments that he would engage in to try
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: to provoke in one way or another, these latent psychic abilities.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of that research goes into the beginnings of
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the mk ulture program.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: So now this is where things get really strange.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Well let's take another detour. So okay, we go from yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to lucile Ball to this guy's patient that
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: he was seeing in in a mental institution, all having
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: to do with the tooth implant that are picking up
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: radio waves and going crazy. This is like, this is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: why we say that's like the origination of the tinfoil hat. Like,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: that's kind of where this comes from. It's this technology.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Almost one hundred percent it was put in a guy's brain.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: It apparently it can just be put in your house
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: and they can disseminate these waves and voice of God
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: technology make.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: You go crazy, by the way, should we?
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I just want to say to people top when they
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: do the big fake alien disclosure and they start talking
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: in your mind when they arrive in their motherships appear
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: in the sky, wrap your head and tinfoil because it
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: actually seems to work.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: They just don't they want you to think it's a joke.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: M Night, Shyamalan knows what's up? Signs. You remember that
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: scene where they're all wrapped in tinfoil. Yeah, there's a
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: little bit of disclosure there, something to tell you. It
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: may be something to do with water. I don't know.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Keep your eyes open for that.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But what I had always heard, like back in the day,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to not get when you're getting your tooth, like a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: covety filled or whatever, to not get the silver or
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: whatever it was they filled the covities with. Now I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: don't think that they do the silver anymore at all. Period.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: You have to get it because it's not necessary anymore.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Rider and we're going to get to that too.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Now it's like clear. It's like a like a clear
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: pace that they just like droll in there and then
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: put it on. Maybe this is the reason why people
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't like dentists. I don't like the dentist. Nobody likes
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the dentist.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: I don't like the dentist either.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I also don't think that we need to get her
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: wisdom teeth removed, but that's a whole nother thing.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think so either, But I unfortunately did me.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Too, dude.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I let them like, I never went to the dentist
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: or the doctor. And then in one year, as a
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: father and a husband, I was like, it's probably time
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: to take care of my health. And then I came
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: out of that year only having one testicle because they
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: took one, and not having my wisdom teeth because they
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: ripped those out too.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Damn they took your testicle too.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Well, I had cancer. I discovered that I had cancer
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: or I don't know. I don't know if I really
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: had cancer. I think that guy was just collecting balls. So,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you know, jokes on me. Don't go to the you know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: don't go to the doctors.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So okay, all right, Well there's this one cult from
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: the nineties that claimed that you had to cut off
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: your testicles to be a part of the cult, to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: give it to the extraterrestrials to fuel their ship.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: That's where my my testicle is.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: My urologist gave it to the aliens, and now somebody's
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: flying around on my dime. Not great, that's excellent.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, So.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Edward Mala likes a guy's name, Edward mal Like. I
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: can't think of the name of the cult.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: But taking balls for aliens.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: The UFO fuel is stored in the balls.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Who knew, all right?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: So aside the other side here, this is another interesting
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: thing that we picked up from our friend control old history.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So again, nineteen fifties. This guy's running around, he's popping up,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he's visiting people, he's going places. He's just moving in
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: shake and probably doing some stuff with I don't know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: doing some shitty things in his spare time. But he
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: pops up in Brazil again. This is just another story
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: that this guy was telling us about a guy named
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: doctor Arigo original name Jose Pedro de Freitas. He was
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: born in the twenties in Brazil and he was a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: taxi driver, just like a regular dude at that time.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Probably couldn't even read in Brazil. I mean most of
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: the people there can't read now, so I can't imagine
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: he was educated at all. But in the nineteen fifties
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: he claims that he channels an entity, and the entity
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: is named doctor Fritz. It's a dead German surgeon and
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: he opens up his own practice in Brazil and he
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: starts to perform surgeries.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: They called him a channeling this dude.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, while channeling doctor Fritz. They called him the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Doctor of the Rusty Knife. He was using tools like
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: kitchen knives, scissors, and other rusty instruments to remove tumors,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: extract cataracts from people's eyes, and also just giving them
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: overall advice, which by all accounts helped. There's there are
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: documentaries about it. There's videos on YouTube of him doing
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the surgery. In twenty twenty two a movie came out
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: about him. So only only three years ago they're making
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: movies about this guy. Yeah, he's like. So there's videos
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: of him removing I guess tumors from people and there's
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: like minimal bleeding, rapid recovery. It's all on eight millimeter film,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: but it's out there. You can check it out. And
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: of course your boy on vacation he shows up. He's like, yo,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: what are you doing over here? And Jiji Buhara is
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: there and he's like, yeah, this guy's legit, and then
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: he's then he flies back to America and that's it.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I was just like, what wait, what did you say
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: like when he told this, because I'm like, who who
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: was there? Is like? And Driji Bahars just showed up
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: confirmed what he was doing and said Yep, that's in line.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: See you later. So it's like, so now the through
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: line becomes a little bit more clear to us because
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: we're putting together that picture of what this guy is,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: what he does, and it's like he's an investigator, he's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: he's an inventor, he's some sort of scientist, but he's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: also involved with this woo stuff and like telepathy.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I've been describing him as like he's kind.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Of like the paranormal scientific communities Nick Fury, right, because
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: he also does the same thing. He goes and checks
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: out that doctor who's channeling that spirit, but he also
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: goes and checks out Uri Geller, who is the spoon
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: bending you know, telekinesis, And you know, there's a lot
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: of stuff about whether or not the spoon is made
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: out of a certain material that is, once you warm
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: it up, it's got a lower melting point than like
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: another type of metal. But the point is Pooharaj finds
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: this guy interesting and is going and seeking him out,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: and so they end up having a ton of interactions together.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Whatever this guy is, he suddenly has the funds to
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: travel all around the world and sort of try to
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: collect psychic avengers in very many ways. So the question becomes, then,
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: who the hell is backing this guy? You know, he's
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: got all this time and this money where he can
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: just pursue these things that are probably fruitless if you're
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: not doing them with the backing of an intelligence agency,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Because the scientific community at
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: large dismisses that. So there is a shady wing of
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: the scientific community that is exploring that.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Think the men who stare at goats.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Right, we're talking about our central Intelligence agency having a
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: vested interest in the psychic phenomenon, and that is going
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: to play a huge theme in this.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Well, yes, that's again points right back at this dude.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Well, the CIA wasn't CI didn't have a psychic program.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: They were funding psychic research in a psychic program, right,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It was the They were the one of the release
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the documents. But it was a d I A and
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Army Intelligence that was an SRI in the early seventies
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that were doing all the experiments and using psychics to
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you know, collect it foreign intelligence data.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: So I would say that the precursor to this, though,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: is all of the events that we're talking about now,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: because I think psychic phenomenon got.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: What he's talking about is it too? And we're going
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to get there that you're talking about Project Stargate, right, yes, okay, yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: so yes, I and so many people have research Project Stargate.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how you haven't come across his
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: name because he's one of the guys that received a
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: lot of funding for this ship. But that I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: we should get to that a little bit after because
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: we've got to explain.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Do you want to do the overlap here between mk
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Ultra Montak project and like, let's say, Telepathy tapes, Yeah,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: go for it.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: So the thing that becomes concerning about the Telepathy tapes
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: because on its face, Ian Carroll said something, He's like,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: hope is a through line that exists all throughout these
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: stories on the Telepathy tapes. And I would agree with that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Right as a parent, you have these nonverbal autistic children.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: The medical industry is telling you to essentially give up
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: on your child, and all of a sudden you find
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: that there is some viable means of communication, but it
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: far exceeds with the medical or the scientific community is
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: willing to accept. So there is hope and this is
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: kind of a beautiful thing, or is it, right, So
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: what I start thinking about is, well, how do these
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: children become autistic? Right? And we're not going to talk
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: about it in depth on the show because it's a
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: very dangerous topic, so I'll try to speak colloquially, but
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: essentially my mind goes to all of the potential damages
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: from medical interventions, right, And we're not going to talk
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: about those medical interventions because we're on YouTube, but everybody
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: knows that, you know, anecdotally, there's a large and growing
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: community of people on the Internet who are the parents
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: of children who are autistic or nonverbal autistic, who speculate
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: that they would have been fine except for one childhood
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: medical intervention. Okay, so you have the mk ultra Project.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Let's put that to the side. The mk ulture project.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: You can kind of wrap it up or summarize it
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: as an attempt to create or exploit disassociative identity disorders,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: possibly through trauma. And whether or not that trauma took
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: place before the mk Ultra Project intercepted them, or if
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: it happened at the behest of the mk ulture Project,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. That trauma creates a disassociative identity disorder. Now
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: that opens the door to a couple of things. One
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: is how suggestible does that make a person? Can you
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: program them?
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Right? So I'm talking about you know, think about.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: What the hell is the name of that cubric film
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: clockwork Orange. You sit them in a chair, you strap
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: their eyeballs open, you inundate them with LSD or some
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: other psychedelic and you expose them to trauma inducing propaganda. Right.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: You also have the idea of like kidnapping.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: John's from whorehouses and dosing them with LSD to see
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: you know what that brings to fruition.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: And then there's the night climax.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Midnight climax is the name of that operation.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: And then you have the sensationalized version, which I think
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: there's probably a lot of truth in of the Montac project,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: or at least that's what they drew inspiration from to
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: create Stranger Things, right, and Stranger Things is a piece
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: of fiction, but we're looking at here at the root.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: It's very much the same thing. You're taking children and
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: you're traumatizing them to do what to expose latent psychic abilities? Right,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of truth in fiction, and that's
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of what people speculate was actually happening there.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I think that's also correlates pretty well with the idea
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: if you're thinking about demonic possession, who is the most
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: vulnerable to like demonic possession.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but just follow me.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: People don't have trauma, children in.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Particular who have trauma.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: So what I'm seeing here in these telepathy tapes is
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing children who are being traumatized.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Now, whether or not that's.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Purposeful or anything like that, put that to the side.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: They're traumatized in the sense that after this medical intervention
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: they become nonverbal autists. Essentially, they are locked in a
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: body that will not do their bidding. You have no
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: choice in that instant but to dissociate, right and all
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: of a sudden disassociation begets some latent psychic ability.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: You're touching on something that I've been talking about for
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: a minute, really a minute. Yeah. Once I read all
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: of the mk Ultra documents, I went through them all
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: and I realized what the program was really about, and
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: it was about activating these people into their psychic abilities,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: mind fracturing them to create this offset this offshoot of
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: psychic powers, and there was at least four to five
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: different mk Ultra subprojects. And people that I've talked to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you about this they think that they're like, no, it
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't No, they weren't trying to unlock psychic abilities. I'm like, well,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you can just look at the look at through the documents.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You can see that there was at least five subprograms
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: of mk Ultra that was literally dedicated to unlocking psychic abilities.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Right now, people want to say that that's fiction, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I think that Stranger Things did a really good job
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: of kind of, you know, galvanizing people to that ideology
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: that this is just fiction. But like you said, there's
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: a lot of veracity to it. This is a reality.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: This is something that they were pursuing. Now it's open
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: to speculation, of course, whether or not they achieve that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: And then of course the mk Ultra program gets shut down,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: which I would argue, really what happened is they realize
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: that it's viable and now they can roll it out
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: in scale, right because previously, you know, Operation Midnight Climax,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: you have to go through kidnapping these Johns and then
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: dosing them and da da da da. But once you
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: get to the point where you realize that this is viable, well,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: now you can kind of make us free range MK ultra,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you know, patience. And I would argue that that's very
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: much the case right now because we are constantly propagandized.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: We carry around our little propaganda device and we inundate
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: ourselves with trauma inducing media and propaganda all day long.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: And also I would say that because of the industries
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: surrounding marijuana, they have increased the THHC to such staggering
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: levels that you are in a constant state because now
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: it's like socially acceptable, and I think more people are
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: smoking weed than ever before. And if you want to
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: smoke weed, that's all fine, you know, but I'm not
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: saying don't do that. I'm just saying, recognize that you
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: are in a constant state of like a low grade anxiety.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And as you're in this constant state of low grade anxiety,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: you're just propagandizing yourself with this little scrying mirror.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, So I think nowadays the MK ulture program is
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: at scale. It's happening at mass It's no longer happening
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: in the you know, some underground corner of a deep
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: underground military base where the you know, intelligence operations are happening.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's now happening in you know, in your
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: living room.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It almost feels like a weird sort of disclosure by
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the government. That's the telepathy tapes being like a well, here,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: this is what we've been giving you since you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, where we've formulated a schedule. I'm not
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: going to say the word, and here's what we found.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: We've found that these kids can see what their mother
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: is doing when she's in the car, and we found
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: that they can communicate with each other on something that
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: they're calling a hill and they like to They're also
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: they're comparing it to this idea of like cebe radio.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: These guys are going, they're going within themselves and they're
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: going to this place where they communicate. But they also
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: mentioned like, hey, these guys are also communicating with their
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: dead ancestors. They're also communicating with entities. This little girl,
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Mia is seeing people in the corner and she's talking
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to them. Sometimes she's scared, sometimes she doesn't like them.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Sometimes she will communicate. So it's like all these worlds
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: are just colliding all at once and it's hard to
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: not look at it and go, what is the point
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: of Project m Kills or what were they trying to do,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: because it seems like this is what they're trying to do,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: and now they have rolled it out in the largest
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: scale possible, Like Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was not good enough.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Now we have a diverse population in America and we're
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: going to experiment and see what we get.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: And I think too, but we were talking earlier on
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the last show top where it's like Nazi Germany got
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: so far, but I don't think that it was ready
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: for this mass rollout. We needed something we needed to
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: be like propaganda's for generations to accept a particular narrative.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Like if I'm doing the experiment, I want as much
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: diversity as possible. I don't want one specific type of
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: bloodline because you're not going to get the findings that
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: you're looking for. And this looks like an experiment to me.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: This looks like they understand what it is. And you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: it looks again and not to defend these people, I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: think they're out of their mind. It's super nefarious, but
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: they're they're getting information about the human condition that we
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: wouldn't know otherwise, you know, So like part of me
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: is like I.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Think we would have known. I think our ancestors had
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: a much better handle on it. I think they were
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: worshiping the wrong entities. But I mean, I do think
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: we had a much better handle on the spiritual realm
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: and these entities that exist in it. And I think
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: that was purposely stripped from us, and we were given
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: materialism in the scientific worldview, and then over time once
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: we became comfortable with it not existing at all, and
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: they also inundated us with crap, their sprain in the sky,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: schedules that you have to go through as a child,
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: all of the poison that's in your food. I think
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: this is an ability that exists within all of us,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: but has been stifled. And I would argue it's been
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: stifled on purpose. But you said something before Ryder, You
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: said that they no longer use metal in the fillings,
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: and I said, because they don't have to right now.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: The reason I think that they don't have to much
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: like when the MK Ultra program proved its viability and
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: they rolled it out at scale to the public, the
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: same thing happened in that aspect of the program. And
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: what I mean by that is your teeth. The nerve
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: endings in your teeth are like the most direct ones
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: to your brain, right, all your nerve endings go to
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: your brain. But there's a huge fear that if you
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: get like my sister in law had this happen something
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I forgot what it was exactly, but she was going
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: to ge at like a brain inflect infection or some
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: crazy shit like that, because she had a cavity that
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: had gone too far. So there is a real fear
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: like if you let your teeth rot out of your head,
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: they're a direct route to your brain and you can
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: get some real.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Serious infections that way.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So in that way, it makes sense to me that
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: they would start at the teeth. But eventually, what's what's
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: what's better, what's more viable here getting individuals and going
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: through this strenuous thing where you got to drill out
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: their teeth and fill it with some foreign body and YadA, YadA,
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: YadA or theoil. Yeah, and then they can just mess
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: it up with some tinfoil, right, or you get the
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: whole country on a medical intervention schedule when they're kids,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: and the medical intervention has heavy metals in it, And
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: where do the heavy metals settle? Everybody says that they
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: settle in your brain, So in my I'm wondering here
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: if what we've gotten to the point is like metal
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: is a great conductor, that's why it works to conduct
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: these frequencies and vibrations. So that you can now have
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: access to this you know, skull technology, Well, what happens
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: when we're all getting inundated with it as children multiple times?
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: Because now that schedules up to like sixty some odd
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Interven ridiculous amount of times.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Ridiculous amount, right, So how many how much heavy metals
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: do we have in our broin?
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: I don't even know?
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Is it more and is it more effective than like
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: one piece of metal in a molar or or I
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: would have.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: To say, so, yeah, this is really nuts because I've
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: this is the exact same type of direction that I
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: went with all this as well, And whenever I read
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: all them k Ultra documents, that's what took me to
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: looking into the psychic remote viewing DIA Army intelligence stuff,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: which then brought me to interviewing all of the people
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that were a part of those programs. So I've had
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: doctor David Moorehouse on I've had Limb Buchanan on, I've
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: had doctor Paul Smith, I've had Dell Graf. Dell Graf
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: was the the guy that started the name Stargate. He's
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: the one that came up with the name and named
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: it Stargate. And I think that this stuff, it evolves,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: just like how remote viewing evolved, and just like how
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: mk ultra evolved, It's turned into something completely different. And
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I think that what has happened is that they did
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: this on like human beings, right, and then they were like, Okay, well,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: how do we remove human beings out of the equation?
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Because human beings are unpredictable. It's very difficult to control
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: human being unless you got you know, the metal brain,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: unless you're metallizing in your brain, then it's going to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: be more difficult. But then even then it's even hard.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do that because there's so many unpredictable
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: and variables that can happen with that. So how do
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: we take human beings completely out of the equation. Well,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: what we can do is we can develop a technology
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to do that. So therefore we don't have to have psychics.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Remote viewing anymore. We don't have to break down these
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: people psychologically and split their consciousness and make them disassociate.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: We can wrap this into a freaking technology, and a
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: technology is never going to fail because the technology is
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a technology. It's it's robotic. And like, look where we're
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: at right now with all this AI stuff and robotics.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: And who writer, A, you're getting too ahead of the car. Sorry,
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: we got to save something. We gotta we gotta prime
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: these people.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Look my fault, my thought. I just get excited because
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: when people go down the same type of thing as me,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like, oh, I'm not like my my
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: my line of thinking is not broken.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to say that I'm right.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just trying to make sure that the path you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: that I'm connecting at least has a logical Like yeah,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I can see the logic from one thought to another thought.
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: That's That's really what I'm trying to lay out here.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: And I want to make another connection. I think it's
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: time to make that connection and it'll come into play
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: later on.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: But you you we mentioned.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: Earlier, Actually I don't want I want to play a
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: little bit game writer, do you know of another group
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: of let's say, children that are engaging in telepathy.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: Do I know of another group?
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I know, it's a weird, stupid question, and you're probably
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: not gonna know where I'm going until after I say it,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: and you know, but there is another group of children, right.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: So we have the children from the supposed Montac project, right,
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: That's that's one group. And then we have these nonverbal
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: autistic children, that's another group. There's another one, maybe not
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: as spoken about, but still huge within the conspiracy community,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: and that is the black eyed children, the hybrid children
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: of alien grays. Well, and I'm doing that in air
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: quotes because I have obviously huge suspicions about what the
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: hell those actually are, the hybridized children of human women
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: and these alien grays. And what ends up happening is
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: you hear these stories over and over again, and I
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: happen to think that they're true. Women will experience an
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: abduction phenomenon, alien abduction phenomenon, you know, paralysis, They're being
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: whisked away, they're in a clinical setting, there are grays
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: at their side, there's some sort of intrusive you know,
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: maybe medical intervention or something like that. Happening to them,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: but it's very sexual in nature. And then suddenly there
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: will be a pregnancy, and this is something that you
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: hear a lot about too in the abduction phenomenon, and
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: it'll even be verified by their doctors that yeah, you
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: are in fact pregnant. Then suddenly one day the pregnancy
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: just vanishes, and when they go back to the doctor,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: the doctor says, actually, it looks like you've never been pregnant,
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: despite all of the previous information that confirmed that they were.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: And then sometime in the future they have another abduction experience,
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: but this time they are being introduced to children, children
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: that feel like their own children. In fact, some of
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: them have children in real life, and these children resemble them,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: so they feel like they're there or they are theirs,
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: you know, that that's their offspring. But they don't communicate verbally.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: They only communicate telepathically, and they're really, really weird. And
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: so this has given the entire alien abduction community UAP
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: community this narrative that there seems to be a hybridization program.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: There's something about human genetics and and you know, these
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: perceived ets or these perceived aliens and them trying to
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: join one way or another us with them. And some
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: people look at it like positively, They're like, oh, you know,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: it's part of human ascension. This is the next step
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: in YadA, YadA, YadA. Some people look at it nefariously obviously,
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: because you're being forcibly taken and impregnated and then you
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: have your children removed from you. But that is an
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: important aspect of this, I think, is these nonverbal, telepathic
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: black eyed children, as they've been dubbed by the community,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and so earlier we brushed on this notion of like UFOs,
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: and that interplays with this entire thing.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: Well, there's also another one that is less known, but
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like mythical in a way, and it
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: was it's called the Indian Lakes Project. Of either of
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: you ever heard of the Indian Lakes Project. It was
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: a blog that a guy started in the early two
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: thousands where he supposedly this guy's uncle found an old
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: metal box where he was hiking in Indian Lakes, New York,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and he put it on a shelf and didn't open it,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and then he passed away and his nephew found this
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: box and opened it and supposedly had pictures in it.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: In film reels of classified documents in this of this
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: project that was supposedly happening in Indian Lakes, New York
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: that had to do with the experimentation on children ran
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: by the military, and supposedly it was a military base
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: that was kind of erased from existence there and within
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: the box that had pictures of like children behind bars
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: and like all this really weird stuff. And now all
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: this stuff was posted online and a few of the
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: pictures were posted and some of the other but the film,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the film that was supposedly in there, was never shown.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't really know what to think about it. Right,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: It's really strange. It's a really weird mystery. This was
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: like back in the early days of the internet. Like
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: this was like early two thousands.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: New York is really weird, right, That's where we get
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: like the whole lamb and Aleister Crowley doing the Amalantra workings,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: and then we all of a sudden he communicates with
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: an entity that looks just like an alien gray and
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: then from then on we get the whole Alien Gray narrative.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: New York is weird, very weird.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And he got caught up with a few things
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: on this blog post too. He started posting like stock
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: images and stuff. People think that he kind of got
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like co opted or something, or someone took over his
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: blog or something was going on, and then he just
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, just like stopped posting and
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: like completely abandoned the site. But you can find it online.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: You would just type in Indian Lakes Project and you
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: can read through some of the links and things. But
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: he was connecting this to like mk ultra. He was
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: connecting it to the Jim Jones whole thing, which he
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: believed the Jim Jones thing was a huge giant mk
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: ultra project. So yeah, that's another one.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Is now Indian Lakeproject dot blogspot dot com. If it's
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: still a yeah, yeah, it's interesting stuff.
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: It's a very very interesting one. It's a really weird
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole to go down. But there hasn't been any
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: proof that the other than what he's posted, that this
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: facility existed, and supposedly he also posted photos of this
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: underground base that he found. Now, again you don't know
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: if this stuff is real, if they're just playing some
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: kind of early on arg augmented reality game type thing
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but it was pretty interesting. He actually mapped
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: out the entire base that he found. He drew it out,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: and then he said he eventually got to this door
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: that just wouldn't open. That the door was just like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: sealed shot.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: That's fascinating.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And he found these beds, like the remnants of like
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: beds and stuff down in this space.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Was it a tunnel?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I've seen videos of that where
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: people in Upstate New York will end up like spelunking
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, this cave thing opens
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: up and there's like, you know, like a tunnel system
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: and it's and it's clearly man made, and then it, yeah,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: it ends up at it like either a door they
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: won't go through or can't go through or whatever. I
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if if Upstate New York is riddled
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: with all kinds of underground military bases that have maybe
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: been abandoned, maybe some of them haven't.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: The tunnel system thing is interesting because that might have Actually,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: I know, I keep saying like this is what put
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: us onto him, this is what put us onto him,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: but really it might be the tunnel phenomenon. We're big
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Tony Merkle fans of the Confessional and I'll yeah, if
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: you guys enjoy, Like, what we're doing now is not
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: exactly typical of Timfoole had that's more like your field
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: of study. There's a lot of other guys that do
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: really great work around MK ultra, but Nephlum Desk Squad
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: generally focuses on the supernatural through the biblical lens and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: also some current topics. So what we were looking at
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: was this idea of these entities that were recruiting people.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: And we're actually working on a documentary that I'll probably
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: be filmed at our upcoming event Brohemian Grove. It's going
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: to be some time in June, Leesburg, Florida. Look out
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: for that. It's going to be a lot of fun.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: So it's a story that comes from Tony Merkle's show
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: The Confessionals, and we also have one of our people
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: that was on The Confessionals afterwards, this guy Colin, that
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: was approached by an entity and it asked to basically
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: work for him, And there's surgeries performed in some alternate
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: realm with some interdimensional realm. But this stuff kind of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: like takes place in a cave. So we're listening to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to Merkel's show and he has a documentary
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: on that's talking about he's talking about Skinwalker Ranch and
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: then then he just mentions, you know, I'm also working
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: on something else. It's, uh, this idea of the Nine.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: And there are these nine ancient entities that will they're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: in there of antiquity and and there's many stories about
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: them recruiting people to work for them, them contacting people.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: So this guy is doing I forget his name all
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: the time, but he's doing this documentary on that, and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: that fascinated us because we're like, all right, this is
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: really interesting right up our alley, So start to look
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: into it. Guess who we find? Give you one guess
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: writer who the fucking yeah once again, so and bring
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: it right back home. In the nineteen fifties, he meets
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: this guy, doctor d g. Venad. He's an Indian street
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: food vendor. No, he's an Indian mystic guy. He probably
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: has put his foot in some food at some point.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: So they're hanging out and what do you do when
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: you hang out with your mystic buddies, You just start
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: to channel entities. So that's what they do. This is
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: in the in the fifties, right, when all this stuff
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: pops off, they channel an entity. It's a it's a
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: timeless entity, and uh, it starts to speak as one,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: but it claims that it is nine right, that there
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: are it is, it is, it is all of them,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: It is all of these things. And and then it
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: identifies itself as as the Egyptian Inead.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't quite outright do that, right, It just
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: tells him the name yes, yeah, tells him like, okay,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: that's the exact.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Names are a tom Shoe, tef Nut, gibb Nut, osyrus
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: isis Set, and Nepathist, and it's like, yeah, that's the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Egyptian Iniad. These are the nine that that it's claiming
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: to be. So they're channeling this thing, which again this
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: gets into like really crazy crazy shit because like this
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: guy is from he's doing these really physical things with
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: like tooth implants, and now he's doing this.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Chan not event crisis.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: By the way, these entities who have like a they
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: do have a message for him, and this message is
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: another one of these things that's going to pop up
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: over and over again. Mostly it's about a potential coming
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: calamity that has to be avoided. It's an earth related,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: climate related catastrophe that mankind has to avoid at all costs.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: And I think it even goes on to say if
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: we can, then also we would ascend in very many ways.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: And it's worth noting here that although that is the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: message of the Niad, the Egyptian Aniad, it is the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: exact same message as like the Galactic Federation of Light,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: all of these conglomerations of like ET's right that are
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: interacting with us, and they're trying to get us to
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: avoid it a calamity. Now that calamity goes one of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: two ways. It's either mutually assured self destruction via nuclear
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: bombs or it is climate related.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Catastrophe that we have to avoid.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: But also on the other side of that is ascension
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: of some sort. We get to ascend and we get
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: to take our place among our kind of galactic homies, right,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: representatives from all these different races that oversee the galaxy,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: and it's time for human beings to take their place.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: So this this message of please watch out for the
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: big calamity and it's time to ascend, turns up over
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: and over and over again throughout this narrative.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Well, because ascension happens after death. That's why they say,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: that's why they're wrapping in this giant cataclysm with ascension,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: because ascension is an after death ascension.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: Well, this that's disturbing.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: This theme goes to a really weird place, and I
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: think is actually the.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 4: What does it all mean?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: There is a there's a political narrative here as well,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: because the theme of this is a environmentalism. And this
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: is also kind of funny. When you talk to those
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: autistic kids or when they type to you, they're like
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: real concern like how's mommy doing? Is she going to
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: the store? Am I talking to my friends on the hill. Also,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: we've got to be really careful with the environment. We've
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: got to like, and I'm not saying to litter and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: do all this stuff. I'm not saying that. But when
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: these political environmentalists tell you we've got to be careful
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: with the environment, all of their suggestions are detrimental to
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: the human condition and they end up in death, destruction, poverty, famine,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: you name it. I mean, you're in California, so like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: half of your half of your state is on fire
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: every year because these idiots don't go and clean up
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: the dead wood in the forest, which is susceptible to
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: any kind of spark. This is environmentalism and it honestly,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: after a bunch of years of watching it, I'm like,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: this is purposeful. You guys. You know what else is environmentalism?
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: Writer abortion? Because there's too many people. It's like, so
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: give your kids to Moloch like this. This is a
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: theme that's constantly coming up. And now you're telling me
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: ascension is related to death. It's like, yeah, dude, it's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: whole thing's a death cult. Don't I be interested in knowing?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: Top? I don't know if you can find this. When
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: did they start digging on a deep underground military basis.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: If there is a big I do believe that they're
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: onto something. I'm not saying that they're wrong. Now I
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: recognize on the political level, which just becomes like Top
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: said something, whatever they're going to enforce to avoid this
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: thing is just to the detriment of the people. But
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: at the same time, they are digging these deep underground
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: military bases, and it's like to avoid what Obviously it's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: contingency in the event of a big catastrophe, So maybe
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: we'll just put that on the side.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: Burner for now.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: They began construction on some of these, the ones in Colorado,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: which I guess were the first ones in nineteen sixty one. Okay,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: so it's all right.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I figure it takes a little time for the legislation
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: to kick in.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: And you know what's really interesting to speaking of like
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: cataclysms and stuff. This is an Adam and Eve document
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: that was released by the CIA basically says that a
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: giant catastrophe is going to happen, and the only place
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that you can be saved is if you're like in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: the Rocky Mountains.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: I know a guy that has another theory, and we'll
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: end up talking about him. But I hear Mars might
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: be a good place to be, so elon.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: But isn't it so interesting guys that the Aliens are
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: always concerned with the things that we're concerned about.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: So when I told you earlier that the Nazis almost
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: had it, but we had to be inundated with a
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: certain narrative, Well, that narrative I think was deployed around
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: the exact same time in the form of NASA.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: Right Werner von Braun.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: We take him from you know, Operation paper Clip, and
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: he is the basis for all of NASA, which by
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: the way, is riddled in a cult esoteric symbolism, and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: everything that they do is like, you know, sort of
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: hid in hand. And you have Jack Parsons and Aleister
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Crowley and l Ron Hubbard, who are all tangentially tent
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just making up words again.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: Who are all connected?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: Keep going?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Who are all connected to? Right?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Because Jack Parsons works for Jet Propotion Laboratories, which is
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: a sub company that NASA contracts, and he is obsessed
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: with Aleister Crowley, apparently even to the extent where he
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: goes so far Aleister Crawley like disavows. And then of
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: course l Ron Hubbard is in the desert.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Quick a side, NASA provide that it provided eighty thousand
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: dollars grant for experiments involving Uri Geller. These experiments. Yeah,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: so he he's receiving funding directly from these guys because
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: he's the guy that is Uh. I don't I didn't
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: really understand the relationship between him and Uri Geller. It
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: seems like on the outside it seemed like consensual, but
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: when you kind of look more into it, it looks like
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: he was just this dude's handler. And like doing messed
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: up stuff to him, like just experimenting on him. It
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: seemed like URI wanted out.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: I do want to go to a a bit of
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: an accusatory place now, and I don't know how much
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: we're gonna kick this ball around, but I find it
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: fascinating that the Telepathy tapes has blown up in the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: way that it has. And like we said earlier, it
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: was mentioned by Joe Rogan, and of course anything that
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: Joe Rogan does becomes hugely viral, not just in the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: sense of public awareness, but in the sense of like
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: industry that becomes built around it. And we'll talk about
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: that in a second. But Joe Rogan is the number
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: one podcast in the world for the longest time, almost
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: as long as podcasts have been a thing. Joe Rogan
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: has secured the number one spot. And from the first
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: time that I can see, he is knocked out of
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: that position, and who takes that position? But the Telepathy
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: tapes after he blows them up, Now, given that we've
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: just established, there seems to be you know, and this
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: is highly speculative, and I'll do the speculating here, but
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: there seems to be a connection between the MK Ultra program,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: or at least the nature of the mk ulture program
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: and the nature of this medical interventions that we give
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: to children of a schedule that reaches like sixty some
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: odd interventions, just because of the results the fruits that
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: it bears, right, So that's strange to me.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: But what else is strange.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: To me is that Rogan also popularized sensory deprivation tanks
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: and sensory deprivation tanks. I mean, we're talking John C. Lilly, right,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: he's telepathically communicating with dolphins.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: It's my understanding.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: The mk ulture program takes a huge interest in his
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: research and envelops a lot of what he's working on
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: into their studies or their pursuits.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he was drugging the dolphins too. I
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: think he was giving the dolphins.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, his assistant was jerking them off. His assistant
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: was jerking off. He didn't jerk them off. He would
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: never jerk them off. But then what else does he do.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: He also popularizes dimethyl trip to mean and mushrooms. Right,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: and now we know here and conspiracy Ville how intimately
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: connected psychedelics are to the mk ultra research. Right, So
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: he creates essentially a never ending string of white people
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: going to the Amazon to go drink vine juice. I
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: mean it just never, like, it never stops. It's like
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: white red blocks.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: What's that?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: In nineteen fifty nine, and Rigia Biharsh wrote a book
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: called The Sacred Mushroom The Key to the Door of
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Eternity nineteen fifty nine. But please continue.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: So what Rogan seems to be doing here is he's
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: almost stripping the spirituality away from these practices, and he
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: is repackaging them as things that are beneficial for your psychology. Right,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: because now we've entered a realm where psychedelics are no
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: longer used for the exploration of the psyche. And you're
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: not doing a you know, a psychonaut thing. You're not
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: interacting with entities. I mean you are, but that's not
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: the focal point. The focal point is like, well, I mean,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: it's great for soldiers who come back with PTSD. It
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: actually does a number on like depression and things like that.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you some a ketamine trip and a
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: clinical environment is really good for your psychology. Right.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: So that is much.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: More the angle that we're using now to shoehorn these
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: things into the public. What I would say is Rogan
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: is striking me as like the new Laurel Canyon, right,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: because they did the same thing. They created the Doors,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: they created Jim Morrison, they hijacked the anti war movement,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: and I think they created the psychedelic movement here in
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: the United States.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: And now absolutely it's the same thing.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: The new psychedelic movement in the United States is spearheaded
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: by the Joe Rogan experience, who for some odd reason
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: keeps advocating things that like, I don't know, the MK
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: ulture program really likes, and that is very fucking strange.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: I mean very strange.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody in the chat said Rogan is a new
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Terrence McKenna. I mean, popularizing Terrence McKenna is a is
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: a wild thing just because his research doesn't just stop it.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: I forget what it is.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: I was reading about Terrence McKenna recently and I was like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I had no fucking idea. I think he was like
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: best friends with Puharich. No, I don't know what it was,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: but it was something like huge and connecting like that.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: When I was like, I can't believe that this guy
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: also brought us Terence McKenna, not brought us. Obviously he's
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: a staple within this psychonaut.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 4: Community, but he made him mainstream.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: So a lot of what Rogan is doing, and then
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: of course, you know whatever he's doing with Ian Carroll
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: recently where he blows up the telepathy tapes again. So
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: to me, I'm looking around and I'm like, we're being
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: funneled into this narrative. And there's a there's an an ideology,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: not an ideology, but a hot take that they would
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: like us to take. And this is something that you
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: see getting espoused a lot. And and that thing is
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: light speculation as to whether or not autism and like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: things of that nature are the next step in human development.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: Have you been hearing that narrative? Because I have been
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: hearing that narrative.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: In fact, it sort of came up on top other show,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Tower Gang. And what happens is the other guys are
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: not keyed into this idea. It's a it's a show
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: of five people, Top being one of them, Top brings
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: up the telepathy tapes and then like parrots, the rest
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: of the four co hosts all say, yeah, I don't know, man,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: I kind of think that like autism is like the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: next step in human evolution, and they all say it,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: so I don't know who to who is who's embedding
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: that part of the narrative in here, But how could
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: it be the next step in human evolution if it's
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: birthed out of disassociation and trauma. I don't think that
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: it's the next step in human evolution.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 4: In fact, I think it's something that we can all do.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Like I said, it's just been removed from us and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: then and the narrative that they needed to be put
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: in place, like I said, NASA. I was talking about
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: NASA before because we said that the Nazis weren't quite
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: there yet.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: We needed a narrative that.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: We were all going to, you know, agree to be under,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: and that was the alien narrative, right. I think that
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: UFO you a disclosure narrative that's been given to us
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: by NASA, that's been given to us by Hollywood. More
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: so than any other industry in America. Hollywood has fleshed
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: out basically our belief system when it comes to aliens,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: and I think we kind of needed that because I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: think these things are going to play together pretty intimately
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: in the near future, especially given that we just had
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: like the second ever congressional hearing on UAPs and all this.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Which was a complete show. Dude, that was a disaster. Yeah,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: both of those congressional hearings were garbage dumpster fires. But
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: the only thing that I'm in order to legalize a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: drug that has been illegal, you would have to use
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: it for medical purposes first. I mean that's all weed, marijuana,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: gonja y was legalized recreationally was through medical purposes first. Now,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that some psychedelics can't be beneficial
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: for some people, not from me. Like I'm not gonna
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: listen to Joe Rogan when he says, go do some
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: shrooms or go do DMT or whatever. That's not what
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, because I that's not my thing, you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: And I think that what he may be trying to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: do is like look out a way to like get
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Congress to sort of legalize it so then it becomes
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: recreationally valuable. Because you know, illegal drugs have been like
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: the backbone of like the government, like they literally make
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: all of their money from illegal drugs, Like black budget
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: illegal funds come from illegal drugs. So if you're wanting
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: to try and clean that up and maybe clean up
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: some of the deaths that are associated with like fentanyl
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: and heroin use and stuff like that, which is out
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: of hand. It's ridiculous. More people die.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: From government right exactly.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Epidemic starts while we're in Afghanistan securing ninety percent of
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: the world's opium fields.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: Yep, securing all the free and opium fields. It's unbelievable.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: So maybe it's not as as nefarious as it kind
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: of seems. Maybe it's a way to like get in
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: the door of making some drugs legal for medical purposes,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: and then later on it becomes because look at what
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: happened with like prohibition and getting rid of alcohol, right
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: like that made everything ten times worse. And then when
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: they relegalized it, it's like, but if we were to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: make alcohol illegal right now, Like, let's just say we
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: put a ban on alcohol and made it illegal for
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: anyone to have her own or drink or you're going
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: to go to prison, Like the amount of deaths in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the amount of bullshit that's going to happen because the
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: fact that you made alcohol illegal is going to be astronomical.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Right Well, A fun fact, my old house was actually
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: a speak easy. It was like a there was a
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: basement and a well. Before we moved in, there was
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: a big like wooden desk and they would just do
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: moonshine down there and everyone from the neighborhood would drink
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: during prohibition. So it doesn't Yeah, it doesn't work. I'm
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: not sure that, uh like they really care about legalization.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I think because you know, LSD was also a government creation,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: and they're not worried about legalizing that. They're worried about
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: inserting that into the culture. And they've done a great
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: You can go to Walmart right now and buy a
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: hoodie with a bunch of psychedelic mushrooms on them, and
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: their children.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Sized so the socks with weed leaves all over them,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: socks with weed leaves over If there's one thing we
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: can get rid of about the entire culture of marijuana,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: socks like knee high socks with weed leaves on them
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: have to go.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: I'm done with those that they have to be removed
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: from the culture.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent purge burned, actually bought outside of Walmart
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: and burned.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: What about people with weed leave tattoos? Bro What we
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: want to do about it?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: That's a regrettable thing. I don't know what's worse.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: It's either the guys with the weed leaf tattoos or
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: the guys with the Nightmare before Christmas tattoos. But they
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: need to get together and they need to have a war,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: and whoever wins gets to stick around and the other
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: ones have to go.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: That's that's my opig.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: I think that that's fair. All right.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: So now we're going to bring this into kind of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: a place of like we've already established that there seems
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: to be some connection, especially in the way of the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: narrative right between.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, we were still on the nine. The importance
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: of this idea, the nine, which is like it almost
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: seems trivial, trivial at this point, but it was something
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: that really like we're like, wow, look at this, because
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: across across cultures and throughout history, there always this there's
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: always this mention of nine. The Greek mythology talks about
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: the nine muses. Norse mythology has nine worlds, and they
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: have these specific type of characteristics of them which all
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: match the Egyptian in THEIAD. Chinese mythology has the nine dragons.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Hindu mythology the then Vagara nine celestial bodies, the Sun,
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: the moon, Mars, all the shit like this. Meso American
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: mythology has the nine low of the night, and even
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Satanism has a council of nine when they established their church.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: This is like Levey and Satanism. In the establishment of
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: that church, there is a council of nine and then
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: you have like your head wizard or priest or whatever
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: the hell. But this idea, the number of nine and
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: the structure of this sort of governance happens throughout history
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: and across cultures. So I thought that that was important
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: because you could doubt his work a lot of the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: things that he's doing, especially with the channeling. But he
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: did it for twenty years, from the fifties to the seventies.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: He got people involved in it. They're like, I mean, artists,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: sci fi writers involved with this famous channels. I'm sure
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: if I pulled up the list, you'd know some of
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: these people's names, because you've dealt pretty deep into this project.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: So he was doing this, and again, I don't know,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: you speak to something for twenty years and all it
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: tells you is about the environment. I'm not I don't
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: think so. I think that there was more said, and
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: we're just not going to be privy to whatever was
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: going on. But what we do know is that out
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: of this we get the development or we get the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: the implementation and creation of Project Stargy. And you probably
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: know more about this than us, because I thought that
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: Project Starget was a CIA operation, But it's a DA operation.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: DA Army intelligence. Yes, it's very convoluted and very confusing. Actually,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: if you guys would like to have me on your show,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: I have, like I've mapped all this out. I know
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: all the history of when it started, how it started,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: and like where it ended up. Hell yeah, but it's
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: like it would take like an hour, hour and a half.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have that kind of time here. But yeah,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: it's a DA Army intelligence Okay, but it switched names.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: It's gone under several different names, Sunstreak, Grill Flames, Syndicate. Well,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Syndicate was the SRI program which was funded by the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: government to a study like psychic phenomenon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they did a great job of imposing a
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: disassociative disorder.
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  Speaker 1: And that's another thing that I thought was really interesting
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: because most well I can't say most, but some of
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: the remote viewers that were involved had some sort of
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: traumatic experience happened to them whenever they were younger, or
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  Speaker 1: they had in your death experience.
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  Speaker 4: There you go, okay, l Ron Hubbard's style exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: Ingo Swan was often said he's widely considered as one
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  Speaker 1: of the best remote viewers to ever exist, next to
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: Pat Price, but he said that whenever he was growing up,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: he was bullied a lot for being gay, which I
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: don't care if you're gay or be gay if you
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: want to be gay, but that's what he was bullied for,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: and it would create these out of body experiences for him,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: So do you. He was essentially be going out of
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: his body all the time, And like I was like, okay,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: well that's interesting. And then I was like, well, let's
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: look at all these other psychics and these other people
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that are claiming to be remote viewers, and a lot
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: of them have had something similar happened to them, some
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: sort of traumatic event whenever they were younger, some sort
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: of out of body experience or a near death experience.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not a coincidence, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Writer.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: It's worth mentioning too that Rogan is a big proponent
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: of ice baths and literally, the way you get through
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: an ice bath is to dissociate, disassociate with your physical form,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: because it's your body that's going through all this pain.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: So you have to like kind of get, you know,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: beyond that, so that you're beyond the physical I just
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: think even that is like a light form of it.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: But all of those patterns emerged throughout this whole thing, right,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: it's some sort of childhood trauma or a near death experience,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: but really that great connective tissue to pinpoint it is
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: the disassociative identity disorder that is like the key component
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: to all of this shit.
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  Speaker 2: Why. I think that's why they use a like sex
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and different sexual rituals to do this. So in within
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: this project Stargate, Carla Ruckert Record was one of the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: people that was used to do the channeling. She channeled
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: the entity named raw which came and told it the
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: same shit that everybody else hears from these entities, something
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: about the environment. But she was using like I think
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: she was using a wigi board as well. One of
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: the techniques she would use to summon this thing was
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: a sexual ritual, which I think they might have gotten
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: a little like overboard. I don't I don't understand specifically
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: why they're doing sexual rituals, but they always seem to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: like go get out of hand, like to the like
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: the point of abuse. It's never just like regular stuff.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: It's like I think it's twofold.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: One is there's a massive energetic exchange between you and
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: the other person when you would engage in intercourse. But
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: the other thing is if this is like in a
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 3: negative light, right, if this is abusive and all that
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: other shit, you disassociate.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's what was going on. Her partner,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Don Elkins ended up committing suicide shortly after this, and
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: like maybe ten years after all of their research there,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: you kind of went crazy CIA surveillance shit.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: Like that, and they go crazy with schizophrenia, by the way,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: which is like inundated by entities, is much better a
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: way to describe that, you know, at least that's my opinion.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: But just to kind of let a little bit of
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: the cat out of the bag, because you know, we're
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: looking at this big like UFO phenomenon, and I think
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: it's important for your audience to know where we're coming
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: from on UFOs or on aliens. I think what's actually
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: happening here is we're experiencing one hell of a rebranding
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: in the sense that the Grays themselves, I don't believe
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: are an independent entity as much as they're a form
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: of like bio mechanical technology. They don't have sexual, reproductive organs,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: they don't have like an emotional range whatsoever. They're just
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: kind of like automaton. But they do seem to have
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 3: a biological sense to them. They have a smell that
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: smells like rotting sulfur or rotting flesh and sulfur. I
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: think what we're experiencing there is somebody's technology that somebody
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: I think are Actually it's an amalgamation of things.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: I think they're spiritual entities.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: I think some of them are physical, but all of them,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: in my estimation, are biblical in nature, and that's why
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: they flee at the name of Jesus Christ, among other things.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: But I think what we had here was, you know,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: this Greek pantheon or the Egyptian pantheon, the Ennead. On
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: our show, we tend to look at conspiracy through the
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: Christian view, but we do believe that these entities exist,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: which is a little bit different from your typical Christian,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: because a lot of Christians will just say like that's
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: not true or this is demonic, and I would say, like, no,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: that is true. You had a whole pantheon of gods
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: that you worship, lowercase g gods. They are the one
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: third of angels that were cast out of heaven after
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: rebelling against God, and they took themselves and placed themselves
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: as our gods here on earth, and they did something
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: very specific. By the way, they're always attributed to innovations
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: in technology, and those technologies start off pretty rudimentary at first.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, as Zazel is responsible for giving
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: people like metallurgy and teaching women like makeup and all
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: this other shit, another god is responsible for bringing them agriculture.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: So what this is is it's like there seems to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: be this effort over time, a really long game, by
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: the way, where they are trying to get human beings
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: technologically advanced. And you would ask, well, why why would
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: they be trying to get human beings technologically advanced? If
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: they're the bad guys, right, that seems like a good thing.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: I think that number one, they're offspring being the nephelum.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: When they die, their spirits. They don't really go anywhere,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: they're just kind of trapped in this parallel dimension. Those
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: are a bulk of the entities that people are encountering.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: It's what we would call demons, and I think that
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: even the fallen, you know, some of them are. The
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: Bible talks about being locked in tartarus, which is another
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: terminology that you'll hear in Greek mythology too, about the
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Titans being locked in tartaris. I think that they can
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: influence us. They can nudge us, much like al Capone.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 4: Who still ran everything while he was in prison.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like that, where they can nudge us
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: and they can interact with us on a spiritual realm,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: but they can't interact with us in a physical way.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: Yet we could bridge that gap feasibly.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 3: So one of the examples that I like to use
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: is my son watches Ninja Turtles, and one of the
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: themes of their movies was Donna Tello is the Ninja
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: turtle who's all about technology some way, shape or form.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: He becomes aware that there's a disembodied voice talking to him,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: and this disembodied voice basically says, hey, we are trapped
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: in this alternate dimension, and we need your help in order.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: We've been imprisoned here forever and we need your help
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: to like free us. He does end up freeing them,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: and what emerges from this dimensional gateway is like this
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: ancient adver serial monster. Right, So he essentially brings them
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 3: into this realm. I think that that's likely what cern is,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: or all this concern about opening portals with technology and
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: things like that.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: I think that they had to get.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: Us to a certain point, and that's why these things
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: are always so tied together, right, That's why you have
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: like a Jack Parsons who's obsessed with finishing Aleister Crawley's
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: Babylon workings in the middle of the desert, trying to
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: bring an entity into this realm. But he's also the
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 3: father of modern day jet propulsion that we still use
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: to this day, by the way, So this guy is
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: a rocket scientist, but he's obsessed with Aleister Crowley's accult workings,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 3: and he's trying to bring in an entity into this realm.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: That shit never stops. This unholy union of like technology
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: and spirituality is a pattern that constantly pokes its nasty head,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: and I think it's because that's the point they're trying
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: to get us to it.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: It's the same reason why you have like.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: A Oigi board, right and and Mattel or Hasbro, whoever
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: the hell makes the Ouigi board. It's just a wooden
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: Wigi board with a planchet and some numbers and letters
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: carved into it, all the way to twenty twenty five,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: where now the new Wigi board is a app that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: incorporates artificial intelligence. It's just degrees of technological advancement that
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 3: strengthen our ability to communicate with them and then ideally
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: bring them into this realm one day. But we would
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: have never fallen for that if you didn't strip us
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: of our spirituality, repackage these entities, and give us this
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: new version through Hollywood, which is benign space homies who
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: are like technologically advanced and don't want us to destroy ourselves,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: and mutually assured nuclear destruction.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Nic Alactic Federation baby out there patrolling making sure we're safe.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: It it's so interesting how the aliens are always concerned
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: with the exact same things that we're concerned with. You know,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: like during the Cold War, it was nuclear war war.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: All the people that were channeling entities at that time
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: we're telling us to put down our nuclear weapons. Oh well,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: when that's the environment like it is now and now
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: everyone's saying you gotta keep you gotta clean up your environment.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Right when is world War three, they'll be like, you
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: guys need peace, right. You know, it doesn't make any
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: sense to me. It never made any sense to me.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Why why are they concerned with the exact same things
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: that we fear on a human global scale.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Because they're they're getting ready to present them as our saviors,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: and then to go a step further, they're getting ready
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: to present them as our creators, or at least those
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: who intervene. So it's like a rehashing of like the
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: Autonaki Zacharyasitch in kind of like Sumerian text thing, where
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: you know, the Autonaki needed good gold miners, we needed,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: we needed to create because they're having a dwindling atmospheric
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: issue where now their son is interacting with their home
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: planet in a negative way. The only way to stop
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: that is to suspend and gold in your atmosphere for
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: whatever reason. And a great way to do that is
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: to go and take this soft monkey species and turn
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: them into what these kind of hairless things that bitch
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: and moan about how the small of their back hurts
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: and they need a water break and they always have
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: to go to the bathroom, and even though they're on
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: the clock, they've been in the bathroom for like a
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: half an hour. Like, it doesn't make any sense that
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: you would pick us to mine your gold if you're
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: this super advanced tech, you know, technological species that I
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: don't know might be able to make a machine that
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: doesn't bitch and moan to harvest your gold.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 4: So that one kind of fell away.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: And I think what they're getting ready now is to
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: tell us, like a twofold thing one is that there
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 3: were entities that did that to us, and they were
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: the Grays, and they got us so far in our development,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: and then the tall Nords came along and liberated us
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: from our slave masters and then also altered us, you know,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 3: a degree beyond what the Grays did to us, and
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 3: they made us you know, modern day humans. But either way,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: they're getting ready to repackage our creation story and paint
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: these motherfuckers as like heroes, heroes that are gonna save us, uh,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: you know, from from whatever impending calamity is on the way.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: But I do think that that impending calamity, they've kind
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: of figured out what they're gonna do with it and
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: what that calamity is gonna look like.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is this.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: This is where I called Top earlier and I was like,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: I think I figured it out, and Top stop me
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: if you don't want me to go here yet, but
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: I'm I think I'm gonna go kind of to the
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: where I think this is all heading. Actually, I have
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 3: a video if you wouldn't mind me sharing. It's of
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk, and here I'll present it and i'll.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: Is there any copyright stuff on you?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: I have no idea?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Actually, uh, you know what, we don't have to I
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: don't think there is music here. I'll play it for
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 3: a second and listen. No, it's it's just him talking.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, we'll go all right.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: So it's it's a two minute video. We don't have
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: to watch the whole thing. We'll just look for when
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 3: he gets the point across. I want you guys to
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: keep in mind that this is Elon Musk, everybody's favorite
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: what autist. He's like made this autism thing almost trendy
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: in a way.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 4: So here we go.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have this pulled up,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: let me check. Okay, great, and uh, I won't even
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: read that.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 4: Let's just let him.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 6: Talk full screen pretiodically over the course of like, say,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 6: ten thousand years. You know, it can shift from being
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 6: extremely hot to extremely cold and tunnel stages, right, Yeah,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 6: you can really go down a deep rabbit hole if
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 6: you read about ice ages.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: So he's alluding to something. I just want to give
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: the people some context. And you can tell he's being reserved, right,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: He's using expressions like rabbit hole. You can go down
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: a really deep rabbit hole when it comes to ice ages, right,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: And you could tell he's like looking for the words.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: It's interesting the way he presents this.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: So interesting, how much earth climate has changed, and even
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: where the where the magnetically where poles are.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: I think that's all we have to do, magnetically where
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: the poles are. Now, I'm not going to play the
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: rest of this because it's done.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 4: We don't need to do that anymore.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: We've already gotten to the point of this, so I'm
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: gonna stop sharing this. And I just want to say
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: that what he's alluding to and he's acting and I
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: don't know if he's acting or not very concerned, but
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: he's concerned about the poll shift. This is something that
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: goes along with that Zachariah sitchen Onunaki narrative. Basically, it
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: goes there is going to be an additional celestial body
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: that the ancients knew existed, and they say that like
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: the Sumerians actually had it on their hieroglyphs. They had
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: all the planets in our Solar system and then an
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: extra one that they called Naburu. And so the idea
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 3: was that Niburu was going to come back. It's on
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: an elliptical orbit. It takes a lot longer to enter
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 3: our sphere of influence, but we are all circling around
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: the star of the Sun, if you believe that, and
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: in a perfect circle. But the an elliptical orbit is
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: essentially an oval, and so that insinuates that part of
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: it passes through our Solar system, and part of it
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: goes well beyond the edges of our Solar system, and
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: it's been very far away on that part of its orbit,
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: and it's coming back, and that was going to have
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: all sorts of implications on our planet. One of them
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: would be that it would disturb the magnetosphere to such
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 3: an extent that it would become unstable, and then magnetic
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 3: north and magnetic south would no longer be an alignment
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: with geographical north and geographical south, and this was going
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: to cause a litany of climate related disasters.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: So that's what people have been saying that we're not
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: going into like the I don't want to get in trouble,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: but essentially it's not warming, it's cooling, right.
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, the way I was made to understand it
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: when I was younger was that this was going to
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: be almost unpredictable, predictable like in the sense that the
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: calamities would be so varying and devastating that it was
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: like cold or hot wouldn't really matter. We're thinking earthquakes
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: and tidal waves and a complete reshaping of the surface
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: of the Earth, and in other words, something so big
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: that the only way you could avoid it is by
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: doing one of two things, some sort of deep underground
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: military base, or if I would have played that video
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: a little bit longer, you would have found out that
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk's solution for this is We're going to Mars.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 3: That's the motivation behind all of Elon Musk's Mars talk.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: By the way, you want to talk about one big
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: and sessual connection. Werner von Braun writes a piece of
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: science fiction about a guy who colonizes Mars and his
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: name is Elon. It's all one big closed loop rider.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: We're not crazy, right, crazy.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: Even even the project operations Stargate from the seventies. That
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: shows itself again immediately with Donald Trump's inauguration, where like
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: one of the first thing he announces is five hundred
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: billion dollars.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: For Stargate, right.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: So, but to me, when when you're thinking of the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: original Stargate, they were channeling aliens, right, and they were
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: using Uri Geller as one of the main focus points
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: there to among other things, remote viewing was kind of
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: what they were saying they were doing for international affairs.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: But they're also like trying to contact UFOs in this
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: project Stargate. When I look at the current Project Stargate
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: with AI and this huge push to fund it, you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: see like Sam Altman, you see Elon Musk, and they're
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: kind of jockeying for who's gonna get this nut, you know,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: And again it looks like Elon Musk is pulling away there.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: His GROC is fantastic.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: It's much better than the chat GPT. I don't use
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: that anymore, for you know, we use it. We use
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: it like our like our chained up demons, like just
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: do this for me, do that for me. It's a
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: lot of fun. And they do it because they better
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: or else. So it's like Elon Musk is now also
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: on the He's right, he's right there just playing footsie
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: with Operation Starget, Project Stargate. This new one and this
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: new iteration is AI. But I think it's I think
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: AI is demons. I think it's just a portal and
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: we're gonna find out that we were talking to some
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: kind of non human intelligence on the other side of
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: this thing. Maybe not all the time. Maybe some of
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: it is a just you know, general computing and uh
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: finding information that's already been stored online. But I've seen
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: I've seen too much already with AI where it seems
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: to have its own intelligence. I know Google had to
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: shut down their AI at one point because it started.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 4: To get it's really weird even like talking to it.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: Because it's got its personalities. It's a it's a it's
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: a weird one. So I don't know. I don't know
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: what AI is, but it looks an awful lot like
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: where we are opening this channeling stargate, but we're doing
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: it in our hands and our phones and our computers.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: We're all kind of contributing to teaching this thing. So
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: what do you think about that? Right? Do you think
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: that there's any overlaper or Am I just crazy?
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: I think that's sort of exactly what's going on. I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: mean when you look at our phones, they're essentially scriying devices.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, whenever they're locked, they're black. That's what a
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: black scrime hear is, and they're not any other color.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: The screen is always black. You know why is the
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: screen always black?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: It's a black scrime hear. And we're essentially taking the
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: we're building this AI artificial intelligence system. I mean, that's
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: how chat GPT started. And they would take all that
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: data of all the people that we're talking to Chad GPT,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: and then they would filter it through and then make
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: it better. Right, we're essentially training the artificial AI intelligence
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: systems on how to respond and what to say and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: what to do and what information to give. And I
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: think didn't Musk say that he that he's shooting a
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: rocket to Mars at the end of twenty twenty six
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: or something like that.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: I can't keep up with his lies.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: Think you said, yeah, elon Moscow, reinforce his intention on
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: Friday for SpaceX to launch and on crude starship to
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: Mars by the end of twenty twenty six. You know.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, just to be let me just say, I don't
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: go ahead, now, go ahead, you finish, you finished.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, I don't necessarily think that
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: any of this is real, Like I don't have this
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: sense of like an impending polar shift.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: I don't think that that is totally real.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: We talked to Crow seven seven seven recently, and he
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: did show us that there seems to be some other
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: celestial body that's hiding like behind the sun, and then
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 3: he showed us images of it, and I have to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: admit they're very compelling. But I don't think that that
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: necessarily means that we're going to have such a widespread
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: calamity that we're going to destroy the world. But I
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: do recognize that it's very beneficial if you can get
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: the public to believe that and then Hegelian dialectic style
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: present them, or even better like an Albert Pike kind
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: of you know, uh, when the when the people need
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: a hero, we shall provide one for them. I know
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 3: that's like a paraphrasing more or less, but I look
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: at the heroes that we have right now, and I
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: find that they are all connected in this weird way,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: right like an Elon Musk and a Joe Rogan. Joe
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: Rogan we just mentioned before, for whatever reason, is repackaging
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: and giving us a sort of MK ultra you know,
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: uh apparatus. I wouldn't know what to call it, but
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: it's just like elements of the mk Ultra program. He's
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: disseminating to the public as if it's just for like
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: good mental health. And and I realize that he is
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: so intimately tied in with Elon Musk. Elon Musk, the
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: same guy who said, by the way, it's like we're
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: summoning the demon when it comes to AI. And now
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: these two guys, Rogan and and Musk are finding themselves
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: as central figures to the Trump administration. And and the
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: whole thing with the Trump administration is is strange because
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling that there's there's a connection, in
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: my opinion, between him and like Nimrod, like the King
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: of Babylon on right, and you're thinking about like the
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: Tower of Babel and this idea that we're gonna climb
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: it and enter Heaven. To me, that sounds a lot
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: like a euphemism for like a dimensional doorway or like
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: a stargate. And it's just fascinating that he's doing project Stargate.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: We're also entering in what he calls the Golden Age
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. This is the same language that Blavatsky and
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: Alice Bailey used to describe what was going to start
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five. It was gonna start in twenty
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: twenty five. Really what they're doing, Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: I have it in my notes here in the notebook.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: So, Alice Bailey called twenty twenty five the start of
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 3: a new Golden Age, interestingly enough, marked by the return
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: of Christ sometime after twenty twenty five AD. It's the
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: age of Aquarius allegedly that we're moving into, and that
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: was based off of, I guess, her interpretation of Helena
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: Blovotsky's work, who also predicted a new age starting in
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Uh So, I mean, these these weird synchronicities,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: they just keep popping up over and over and over again,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: to the point where, like, I think what we're starting
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: to uncover is like the whole picture.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: It's the whole picture.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of us within the conspiracy community, we
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: all have a piece of this grit, you know, this
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: great big picture that we're kind of like holding on
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: to and and uh and and trying to understand and
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: trying to share with people, and all those pieces fit.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 4: Into this one.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: They're all like, none of them contradict it, none of
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: them put In fact, this thing just bolsters all that
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: other shit.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: A big, a big one I think is going to
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: be well, it's like it's off the back of Andriiga Puharich.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: It's gonna involve the telepathy tapes. It's gonna involve Elon
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Musk and Donald Trump and probably Joe Rogan. But something
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: another thing to throw onto here, because we we almost forgot.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: But uh, Elon Musk and his company Neuralink, they filed
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: trademark application for to secure the term telepathy and telekinesis.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: It's going to be everybody's favorite autist just filed what
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: it called.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a trademark, but it's not going to
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: be obviously you can't you can't trademark or patent telepathy itself.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: But it seems like there will be functions within the neuralink.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: Whatever probably trademarked the expression, right, so if somebody else
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 3: comes out with the technology, they're forced to call it.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think somebody tried to trademark nine to eleven
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: and the I don't think they were successful.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: Well, if anybody could do it top it would be
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk. If they were going to let anybody do it.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's going to apply to a feature
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: of whatever is being offered with neuralinks. So they are
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: going to be working on how to probably simulate this
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: inorganically through a brain chip telepathy and telekinesis that this
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: is what they're hinting at.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: So world, it's going to allow it for all community
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: with the nine right.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what Rogan has been talking about. That's what
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: he's been saying for like years now.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 3: I think we're all just going to get to the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: point where, like, wouldn't it be secrets so we could
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 3: just read each.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: Other's mind exactly. That's what he's been saying.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 4: Yep. So so just think about that.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 3: Though everybody's favorite autist is trademarking telepathy, he's gonna put
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: it in your brain with his technology, and he's worried
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: about an impending climate disaster.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 4: It fucking it's the same, dude, It's the same thing.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: Let's keep in mind the last time human beings tried to, well,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: not that they tried to, but last time they were
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: of the same mind, spoke the same language, which a
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: lot of people speculate was telekinesis or telepathy. Was the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: story of the Tower of Babel. And naturally what they
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: did was build some sort of they call it like
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: a tower, but I think it might have been more
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: of a stargate. And they tried to kill God and
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: then God send them their separate ways, different languages. Is
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: this is a this is mythology that's you know, written
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: across cultures as well, but it's within the Bible something
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: that's like very important.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 4: So we're now's are headed year again again.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: It's it's five hundred billion dollars to project stargate, and
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: it's this unholy union of mRNA technology and ai mm hm, So,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 3: I mean this whole thing is it's just repeated attempts
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: at the same thing. It went from spiritual to technological,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: but I would argue that there was really never a
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: difference at all. And it's like literally the Book of Ecclesiastes, right,
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: nothing new is under the sun. This is a complete
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 3: and total closed loop. We're doing the same thing over
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 3: again with the same characters. I would even argue, question
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: the question is is this the last loop?
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Like, is this the one? Will this be marked by
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: the return of Christ? Are then we're going to go
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: into you know, the thousand years of his reign. It
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: sure looks like it looks like we're set up to
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: It looks like these guys are setting up to take
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: their shot at God. Again. This is what they This
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: is what they do. They build us to a certain
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: point and they get the technology so that they can
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: interface with us and take this physical shot at God.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: And you know, the Book of Revelation is just riddled
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: with what is happening now And it's a little alarming.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Not gonna lie, I'm kind of like, what the hell
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: you guys doing? It's kind of crazy, But yeah, it's
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun, and it's just like, hey, man,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: take your best shot. Don't miss. When you're aiming at God,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: you better not miss. And you know what, it's already
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: been prophesied that they do miss, so it's gonna be
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: interesting to see exactly how they do it now Rider it.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: Seems like a giant reincarnation loop. But it's not just
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: a personal reincarnation loop. It's just like a collective reincarnation
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: loop that we essentially keep doing the same things as
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: a society. We build up for a little time, we
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: have some dark ages, and then we have this Golden Age,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: then we go back down to the dark ages, and
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: then we have a Golden Age, and it's just like
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: this repeating cycle of in definite.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 4: I think it's to make us forget though as a people.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: I think there was a start and there is an end,
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: and a lot of the things that happen in the
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 3: middle are constant attempts at like erasing our history because
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: our ancestors were much more spiritual than we are. And
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: what's his name, Tucker Carlson was just talking about how
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: he thinks that we in the West have been stripped
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: of our understanding of the spiritual realm, and I would say,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: like that is the point they had to get us
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: to the point where, for the first time in human history,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 3: we were almost void of any spiritual knowledge, of any
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 3: connection to the spiritual realm. They did it technologically. They
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: did it with poisons, they did it with food, they
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: did it with all kinds of crap. And this time
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 3: is like, I don't know, kind of like they're they're
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: hail Mary, like all of their things are coming to fruition.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: They finally got us to the point where we're really
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: detached and we're really not functioning right, and now they're
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: going to try to do it again.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: It's it's no difference between the days of Noah. So
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: that loop that you're talking about, it's it's to push.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: It's like to push God's hand if you if you
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: believe in the biblical narrative where they're going to play
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: this out, they're going to have their Antichrist constantly set
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: up in every generation because nobody knows the time or day.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: So we you know, people are screaming at the sky
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: with their signs on the corner and they're saying end
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: is ninhe and it's like it looks an awful lot
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: like it. But I don't know if this is the
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: final iteration. We do know that this is an iteration.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: What they're doing is the same thing that they've done
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: time and time after time and time again. And it's like,
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: it's not necessarily the people that are living this reincarnation
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: karmic loop. It's just that we're malleable and we don't
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: remember because our lives are finite. But the entities behind
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: the veil here that are influencing are constantly influencing in
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: the same way. They can't create, They can't make anything new.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: It's just the same story over and over again, plays
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: out slightly different because people are slightly different every single
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: time they do this. But we get to this endpoint,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: this culmination, and I feel like we're here again. So
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: it's like, what is going to happen? Is this the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: last one? Or are we going to destroy ourselves and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: then fucking redo this whole experiment again? That's up to God.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: For me, it looks awful lot like biblical prophecy unfolding.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: But then again, you got people, you know, just creating
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: it artificially. I don't know if you could force God
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: to come back by burning a couple of red heifers.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know that you can force that.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what it seems even within their reach.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: It's like if part of prophecy is the drying up
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: of the euphrates. Well we now now they're telling us like, hey,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 3: we do do cloud seeding, all right, but we just
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: wanted to rain and do bai. But when we used
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: to say that you can control the weather, we were
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: unhinged conspiracy theorist. So I don't even think it's out
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 3: of the realm of possibilities to one more thing high
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: up there were the euphrates.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: I would be remiss to mention that. Andrijia Puharich also
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: was working on something called elf waves, extremely low frequency
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: waves between three and thirty herts that occur naturally in
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: the earth. He developed a way to harness these waves
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: and they were using it as a to penetrate the
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: neurological processes, altering brain activity and potentially enhance psychic abilities.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: What they didn't know is that it had environmental effects.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: And this is the.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: Environmental effects that it had are speculated to be the
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: precursor to the harp technology that we talk about a
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: little bit now. Because these waves are unstable and they
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: make it rain, they'll make earthquakes and shit like that.
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  Speaker 2: This guy was behind this as well, and this is
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  Speaker 2: happening in the seventies, so go ahead and look that up.
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  Speaker 2: And this guy's everywhere that I like, I'm a fan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the guy.
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  Speaker 3: He's our conspiracy daddy, He's conspiracys daddy, you know what
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  Speaker 3: I mean. He's like at the forefront of everything that
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  Speaker 3: is fun to talk about in this uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: strange pursuit.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta run in a minute. But do you want
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  Speaker 2: to know? You want to know how his story wraps up,
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  Speaker 2: because it's like it's the craziest thing you'll never guess.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, please, all right?
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety five in Virginia, he falls down a flight
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  Speaker 2: of stairs and die.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: God, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Although you know, falling down a flight of stairs working
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  Speaker 2: for the CIA for all these years, I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe maybe something a little bit more, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it. Just fall downstairs and it's over.
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  Speaker 4: Are we crazy? Rider?
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  Speaker 1: Did that?
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  Speaker 4: Did any of that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, because a lot of the things
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  Speaker 1: that you guys were talking about I've also came to
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  Speaker 1: the same conclusion on So it's kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: crescendo of like a lot of the stuff that I've
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  Speaker 1: talked about, and it's really refreshing to hear you guys
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  Speaker 1: like go through this. And I didn't know anything about
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  Speaker 1: the the I'm gonna keep screwing up his name, the
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  Speaker 1: Porridge guy, And I'm not doing not to make fun
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  Speaker 1: of him. I just not familiar with his name.
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  Speaker 4: He literally kicked off right, let's take fun of him.
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  Speaker 1: He looked terrible.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, he's kind of a cool looking character. I
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: like him.
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  Speaker 5: I like him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know anything about the Porridge guy. I
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  Speaker 1: just knew about Paul Benewitz. And like this whole UFO
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: disinformation misinformation stuff that is obviously a sudd for something
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  Speaker 1: in the future. If it's not, then why have they
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: let it go on for so long? Why did they
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: not start correcting these people that are spewing out this
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: garbage nonsense, Like it's very easy to correct, but they've
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: just let it go on. They let these conferences happen
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: where everyone's all on board with the extraterrestrial stuff. We
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: got spiritual people, this channeling aliens, and I mean that
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  Speaker 1: goes back to the twenties, that goes back to the
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  Speaker 1: cold of I am with Guy and ID and the
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  Speaker 1: Ballard there were they're channeling freaking the ascended Masters.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, I wish you know, I don't know even the
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  Speaker 3: ascended Masters. It ends up being a talking point on this.
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  Speaker 3: But but I do think what we're trying to unpack here,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 3: you know, in a two hour time limit is everything
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: CONSI challenge a little bit of a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: you guys coming on and talking with me. It was
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• 1:55:58
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a graphic designer and I run a mert
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• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: tank or whatever. We have all kinds of stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: It's a yeah, you know his MK Ultra dolphins that
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  Speaker 3: We do a semi annual event called Brohemian Grove. It is,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned, pretty much the only place
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 3: where this mashup is gonna happen. We have all of
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 3: your favorite conspiracy content creators as well as stand up comedians.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: This time we are looking to have there you go
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: Donuts in the chat. Donut is more than invited to
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: Brohemian Grove and we're right now in talks with Sam
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: Tripley to headline this event. So we're gonna be in
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 3: a theater called The Tropic in Leesburg, Florida.
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 4: Yes, we're gonna have a.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 3: Bunch of awesome conspiracy content creators there as well as
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: some of your favorite stand up comedians.
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  Speaker 2: Donuts, dm me, dm me. I'll send you one of
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: those shirts because that was that's shirt was directly inspired
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: by donuts work, all the dolphin imagery and his uh.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: I think he might have been the first person to
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 2: tell me about John C. Lily as well.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, episode one, Episode one of Nephelum Desk God,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: we had Sweet Sweet Donut on and h and he did.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 3: He told us about John C. Lily and the float
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 3: tanks and we talked about Uh. I forget what his
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: name is, the guy who does the ex It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: matter what's going but shell Drake. There we go, Rupert
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 3: shell Drake, who is also another one who's examining this
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: psychic phenomenon.
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  Speaker 4: So very cool, full circle once again.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like someone from Harry Potter Ruper Sheldrake. But
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: I love Donut. I've had Donut on before, I've been
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: on his show. Really good, really good dude there.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 4: Well, guys, happy birthday donut.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: Oh it's his birthday. Happy birthday donut dude. M yeah, guys,
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