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Hutton & Withrow: Clay Travis Sparks Restaurant Wars! WNBA Finals Disaster & SEC Officiating Outrage | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: JT joins us as well for primary complaint. Guys, my
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  Speaker 1: primary complaint this week. Those that just stop in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the aisle at a supermarket, acting as though
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  Speaker 1: they're there by themselves. They're by themselves. No one else
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  Speaker 1: in the supermarket, in the grocery store. They probably have
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  Speaker 1: a kid with grocery feet, Chad. And they're just shopping
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  Speaker 1: and no idea that you're trying to get by them.
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  Speaker 1: And aisle number five, my primary complaint.
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  Speaker 2: People really get into whatever they're looking at and looking for,
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  Speaker 2: I've noticed. Like there is a separation of mind and
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  Speaker 2: body when you're looking at 85 different brands of cans
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  Speaker 2: of something. And you're trying to find the right thing
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  Speaker 2: for whatever recipe you're making. And they do lose all
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  Speaker 2: spatial awareness sometimes. of where their cart is, where they
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  Speaker 2: are in the aisle, and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: I will raise my hand. I've been guilty of.
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  Speaker 2: This at times, too, where I've got a list of
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  Speaker 2: things I'm supposed to get, and if you give me
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  Speaker 2: something that's very specific, I don't bake, as an example.
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  Speaker 2: So if I'm given something that I need to get
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  Speaker 2: for a baking supply, and I'm looking for a specific ingredient,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be staring at... that display for a
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  Speaker 2: while to get it. And there are times where I
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  Speaker 2: get my cart in the way of people. So I've
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  Speaker 2: been guilty of this.
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  Speaker 1: The weird part though, is like, if they have kids,
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  Speaker 1: there's a kid in the, in the buggy or whatever
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  Speaker 1: in the cart. And, uh, that's another good one of
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  Speaker 1: words used. And, uh, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: go up and push the cart out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: If I've been waiting for, you know, 15 seconds, because
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  Speaker 1: there's a kid in the cart, you know, but they
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  Speaker 1: don't even turn around. And I'm talking about in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of a small aisle for the most part, If
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  Speaker 1: you try to go around, there's a display on the
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  Speaker 1: other side, something that's in the way, where you need
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  Speaker 1: to physically come over and just take the cart towards them.
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  Speaker 1: They're on the other end of the aisle looking. They're
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  Speaker 1: locked in. They are.
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  Speaker 3: Locked in. Totally locked in.
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  Speaker 1: Their kids are just standing there.
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  Speaker 3: I'm locked in on.
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  Speaker 2: Travel softball and youth sports today because I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: have a travel softball-related complaint here. I think JT is
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  Speaker 2: as well. We name names on this show, so I'll
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  Speaker 2: name names.
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  Speaker 1: U-triple-S-A.
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  Speaker 2: This is a softball association that prides itself on being
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  Speaker 2: a top dog. They've got really good teams that come
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  Speaker 2: in from different states and play tournaments. I like their
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  Speaker 2: schedule where they give you five games, and you get
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  Speaker 2: three on a Saturday. You know exactly when your games are.
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  Speaker 2: You've got two starting Sunday morning. Then they go into
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  Speaker 2: a single elimination bracket, and the teams that qualify win.
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  Speaker 2: in the tournament for the bracket will play. So you're
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed at least five games, probably six if you're not
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  Speaker 2: one of the last two teams in the tournament, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe more if you keep winning. I like knowing when
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to play and not the uncertainty of a
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  Speaker 2: one-day tournament. That part I like.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I don't like.
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  Speaker 2: If you were going to charge a healthy amount of
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  Speaker 2: money for every team to enter your tournament, and you're
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  Speaker 2: going to charge a gate fee for all the parents
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  Speaker 2: to get in of $ 500 or whatever it is, instead
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  Speaker 2: of every parent having to pay $ 10, when they drive
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  Speaker 2: up to the park that morning.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: That's all built in, okay? You don't ask the team
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  Speaker 2: to supply their own softballs.
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  Speaker 3: This drives me nuts.
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  Speaker 2: The first time we did this this fall, I had
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  Speaker 2: to do a double take. We supply our own. So
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  Speaker 2: we have to chase down foul balls. We have to
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  Speaker 2: make sure we have the right ball each time.
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  Speaker 3: That was ours. We brought it in. Coaches are out.
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  Speaker 2: At midfield exchanging balls for the other one. Instead of
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  Speaker 2: just putting, I don't know, two or three game softballs
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  Speaker 2: from you, Triple S, on every field throughout the day.
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  Speaker 3: You don't just lose balls like you do in Major League.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody's going to go retrieve a foul ball at a
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  Speaker 2: tournament and bring it back regardless.
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  Speaker 3: But here's what this invites.
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  Speaker 2: It invites the perception of tomfoolery and antics taking place.
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  Speaker 3: I talked about this with Tennessee, South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that game was so predictable is the problem.
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  Speaker 2: Whether there's something nefarious going on or not, you've got
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  Speaker 2: a crew that's been historically bad against Tennessee doing things
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  Speaker 2: historically we haven't seen, like taking three touchdowns off the
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  Speaker 2: board or saying a ball was tipped on a clear
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  Speaker 2: pass interference that would have led to the game-winning touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: All those things happening with that crew, the perception of
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  Speaker 2: impropriety is as bad.
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  Speaker 3: So if you are a tournament... that.
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  Speaker 2: Prides itself on being top notch. Hutton, I think they
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  Speaker 2: want that. I think they want to draw in coaches
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  Speaker 2: that are going to bring in dead softballs or bring
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  Speaker 2: in something that's some sort of a trick so other
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  Speaker 2: coaches can challenge the ball the other team is using
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  Speaker 2: or look for something else. Why on earth would that
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  Speaker 2: even be a thing to bring in your own softballs
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  Speaker 2: to provide them for a tournament? and not have the
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  Speaker 2: tournament provide game balls. That is my primary complaint.
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  Speaker 1: So this is great. Whenever you're at bat, do you
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  Speaker 1: use your own softballs or the other team's softballs?
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  Speaker 3: You're pitching.
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  Speaker 2: So on defense, you're using that ball. I know coaches
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  Speaker 2: who have challenged balls being pitched to them.
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  Speaker 3: This is too heavy.
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  Speaker 2: This is waterlogged. They've deadened the ball in some way.
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  Speaker 2: So if you wanted to bring a dead softball out there,
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  Speaker 2: you're hitting the ball well and it's bouncing to the shortstop.
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  Speaker 2: Over and over again, you're like, what is happening? Our
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  Speaker 2: batters are saying the ball feels weird off the bat.
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  Speaker 2: I know coaches who have stopped the game to check
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  Speaker 2: the ball that's being used. But you open yourself up
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  Speaker 2: to that when everybody's not using the same ball. I
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  Speaker 2: like it where the pitcher at the end of the
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  Speaker 2: inning drops the ball in the circle. So then the
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  Speaker 2: next pitcher comes up and grabs that ball and warms
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  Speaker 2: up with it, like we did in baseball games growing up,
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  Speaker 2: like you usually do in softball.
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  Speaker 3: I hate that. The separate ball system.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is clearly financial reasons, right, why this group.
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  Speaker 3: Does not want to do this.
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  Speaker 2: There's no– they can afford– No, absolutely. No, I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: they can't. I believe– people aren't going to like to
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  Speaker 2: hear this, and I'm probably– if we clip this, your
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  Speaker 2: triple S.A. is probably going to ban me from tournaments.
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  Speaker 2: I think they want to attract coaches that cheat. I
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  Speaker 2: think that the highest level of travel softball– JT's going
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  Speaker 2: to run into this– The highest level of travel softball
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  Speaker 2: is going to do every possible thing to gain an advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And one thing that those coaches would want, this is
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  Speaker 2: the only coach I would think that would be this way,
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  Speaker 2: is we've got to have our softballs. We have a
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  Speaker 2: certain brand. Our pitchers like a certain one. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to scuff it up a certain way. They like to
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  Speaker 2: manipulate the seams a certain way. We like to do
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  Speaker 2: the dead ball that's cheating. So you are honestly like
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  Speaker 2: you want those teams that it matters that much to them.
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  Speaker 2: You want them in your tournament, so it's an incentive
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  Speaker 2: to them. Where I think it's ridiculous and everybody should
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  Speaker 2: just play with the same ball and make it fair
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  Speaker 2: across the board. Everybody's got to do it, just like
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  Speaker 2: everybody plays in the same weather. Whether it's too hot,
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  Speaker 2: too cold, rainy, windy, whatever, you all have to play
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  Speaker 2: in the elements. You all should play with the same softball.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that USSS wants coaches who cheat. I truly
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  Speaker 2: believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've been there and seen this. I will
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  Speaker 1: go with your opinion on it. I just assume they
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to pay people to track these down. It's
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  Speaker 1: a one-time charge. They buy these softballs one time and
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  Speaker 1: then go get them in the foul ball. That's crazy
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  Speaker 1: to me, especially after everything else they're charging.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, if this is clipped, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying what team my daughter's associated with. That's one name
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  Speaker 2: that I will not name because I probably will get
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  Speaker 2: banned from their tournaments if I said that. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: no longer a coach either. So I'm just some parent.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not a coach out there having to deal with it.
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  Speaker 1: JT.
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  Speaker 4: I apologize for the continuing of travel ball, but it
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  Speaker 4: kind of ties into our competition that we talked about
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  Speaker 4: a couple of minutes ago.
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  Speaker 3: I did some quick math.
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  Speaker 4: Three age groups, eight teams, so you've got 24 teams.
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  Speaker 4: Let's just go on the low end and say there's
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  Speaker 4: 10 kids per team. That's 240 kids at a tournament.
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  Speaker 4: Each kid's probably going to have an average of two
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  Speaker 4: people there. I'm not going to include grad guards and
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  Speaker 4: aunts and uncles and those people. So that's 480 people. Chad,
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  Speaker 4: admission's normally $ 12. I'm going to go on the low
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  Speaker 4: end and say $ 10 to get in per person. That's
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  Speaker 4: $ 4, 800 per person. This does not include the 24 teams
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  Speaker 4: entry fee. Why in the hell can we not get
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  Speaker 4: somebody to run a scoreboard? I know there's a thing
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  Speaker 4: called Game Changer where we can see this on our phone.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not talking about for the parents. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 4: for these kids that are there trying to be competitive,
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  Speaker 4: playing travel ball, baseball, softball.
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  Speaker 1: There's sports. You know, four fields, eight fields, depending upon
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  Speaker 1: where you are.
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  Speaker 3: But the kids have no clue what the score is
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  Speaker 3: unless it's a 1-0 game.
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  Speaker 1: That is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and this is at every single tournament I've
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  Speaker 4: ever been to. Chad, correct me if I'm wrong, but
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  Speaker 4: why is there.
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  Speaker 3: They have scoreboards. Yeah, I've never known it.
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  Speaker 4: But we can't turn them on for a travel game?
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  Speaker 2: I've never known it to be a thing. It's a
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  Speaker 2: great point. It would be very simple– I mean, you're
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  Speaker 2: renting the park that you're at, right? So like the
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  Speaker 2: thought would be like, oh, well, you know, they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to give us access or score, but you're renting
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  Speaker 2: the park like you're renting the bathrooms. You're renting use
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  Speaker 2: the concession stand. You're also very easily renting the little,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the touchscreens that control the scoreboards.
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  Speaker 3: When you're there too. I mean, I know that my team,
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  Speaker 3: I would do it.
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  Speaker 2: Like there are parents who have no responsibility who would
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  Speaker 2: gladly say, I will be the scoreboard operator for our game.
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  Speaker 3: When we go to a rec game, like I do
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  Speaker 3: the scoreboard.
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  Speaker 2: If we're the visiting team for my daughter's rec games,
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  Speaker 2: seven-year-old softball, I do the scoreboard. If we're the home team,
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  Speaker 2: I keep the book for the home book, for the
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  Speaker 2: game's actual official score, right? That would be easy for, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this team is, hey, which team wants to do the scoreboard?
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  Speaker 3: And you have one parent who operates it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even– I know, J.J., you're saying they should
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  Speaker 2: have someone, some kid there that operates it. I would
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  Speaker 2: be totally fine as a parent if you just gave
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  Speaker 2: me access to it.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a game-changer parent. You've got someone who keeps
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  Speaker 3: the book.
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  Speaker 2: Someone can easily run that scoreboard, which is not hard,
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  Speaker 2: for the entirety of the game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think it would add to the experience.
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  Speaker 4: I won't give you my $ 10. You give me a
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  Speaker 4: different wristband. I get in for free, and I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to run the scoreboard for you for four or five games.
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  Speaker 4: It's completely– I mean, everybody wins there. But, yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: it's not– this is not for the parents because they're
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  Speaker 4: dying to know the score.
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  Speaker 3: It's for the kids who are in the.
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  Speaker 4: Dugout because their team's batting and they don't know if
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  Speaker 4: they're up by two runs or down by two because
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  Speaker 4: they can't look at the scoreboard.
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  Speaker 1: It's a travel league game, and you're paid to be there.
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  Speaker 1: It's expected. The only way it changes, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: with no kids and no travel softball, is if the
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  Speaker 1: team stopped going to that said tournament because it's not
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  Speaker 1: as nice as it should be. If they're getting paid
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  Speaker 1: a boatload of money, it sounds like. Man, they're getting
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  Speaker 1: this for every team.
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  Speaker 2: I've met the guy who runs the Play Local tournaments
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  Speaker 2: here in Tennessee, and he watches our show. I would
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  Speaker 2: appeal to him. He tries to do a lot of
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: different things to entice teams to go play in theirs.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of times it'll be like rec ball
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  Speaker 2: all-star teams that play in this. It's not as high
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  Speaker 2: level of teams that would go play a play local tournament.
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  Speaker 2: But if you want to incentivize, I think a cool
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  Speaker 2: selling point would be scoreboards.
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  Speaker 3: We'll operate them.
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  Speaker 2: You will have scoreboards this tournament, start to finish. We'll
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  Speaker 2: have the access to them. A parent can run it.
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  Speaker 2: But you will have the ability to have someone operate
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  Speaker 2: a scoreboard for every single game. Because, JT, I've never
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  Speaker 2: seen it. I've not been to one tournament that operates
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  Speaker 2: a scoreboard on a Saturday or Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: But, JT, you're saying you would do this for every game?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've got also a three-year-old, so it's a
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  Speaker 4: little bit different. But we have plenty of parents that would–
• 12:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, I could for a game, you know, but
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  Speaker 4: there are plenty of parents that have no problem go
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: up there and just change where the second or third
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  Speaker 4: inning or, you know, added a run, it's five to four.
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  Speaker 4: The kids need to know what the score is. Without
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  Speaker 4: having to bug the coach or having to look over
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  Speaker 4: their shoulder and ask their parents.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm just thinking that paying to get in and
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  Speaker 1: didn't also pay per parent or whatever is– I would
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  Speaker 1: expect a score. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I don't– I'm coaching games, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: having to ask our parent who's doing Game Changer or
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: the book, we got three that inning?
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  Speaker 3: Two-one now?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just double-checking half the time, but like four-three?
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to check after each half inning. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: They only got one that inning, right?
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  Speaker 2: I'm just confirming because there's no scoreboard, but also you've
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  Speaker 2: got to know exactly what the score is in the official.
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  Speaker 3: Book every time.
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  Speaker 1: And the umpire would want to know.
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  Speaker 3: The umpire comes in every inning and on their way
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  Speaker 3: out will ask.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They'll find the official scorekeeper, your parent that does it,
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  Speaker 2: and they'll ask them what the score is, especially when
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: you get late in the game, so they know the
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: situation if time's up.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: JT, our friend Fred Jackson told us you always have
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: the best primary complaints. And that we, Chad and I,
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: need to pick our game up a bit. We need
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: to step our game up. Well, we had a rule
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: where we weren't going to repeat complaints each week. So
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: we've been doing this for so long. We have legitimate complaints,
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  Speaker 1: but should we reset? That was the question. Should we
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: reset and go back to the other complaints that we've done?
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  Speaker 1: We've got 15 years of this.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, JT has the entire menu available. We're going to
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: talk restaurants. This is like the Cheesecake Factory menu that
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: JT has in front of him to choose from. And
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: we're more of a high-end steakhouse where there's five options available.
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  Speaker 2: of different cuts of steak in three sides and a
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  Speaker 2: couple appetizers. We just don't have as many complaints to
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  Speaker 2: choose from. We're going to get one delivered to us
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  Speaker 2: every single week when something happens in our life. But
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  Speaker 2: we've utilized the whole menu. I would say let's reset.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: We can go back to old complaints at this point.
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  Speaker 2: This is a new show. We're 51 shows in to
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  Speaker 2: the new company here at Sport & State. So let's
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: completely reset and start primary complaints anew.
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  Speaker 1: JT, what I'm saying is your appearance on this is
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: far better than any of the Hard Rock Bet stuff
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's the guaranteed games that you're getting i don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know i mean it's just a very random place to
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  Speaker 2: smoky mountains right now like in gatlinburg would be cool
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  Speaker 2: Let me quickly address something because Next Round Live is
• 17:57
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• 17:59
  Speaker 2: all things Alabama. Going back to what I said on
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: officiating being an issue in the Tennessee-South Carolina game, I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: got a lot of Alabama fans who are, oh, well,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: when we didn't get the pass interference call against Georgia—
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And we complained about it. Tennessee fans told us to
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: shut up and stop whining, and we lost the game legitimately.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: And all Tennessee fans do is blame every loss on
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: the officials. A, Tennessee fans don't blame every loss on officials.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: If Tennessee got their ass kicked the way Alabama did
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: against Tennessee, I guarantee you they wouldn't be talking only
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: about the officials. They'd be talking about how weak the
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: offensive line was, how they can't block anybody, how defensively
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: they couldn't stop the run. They'd be talking about all
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the same things Alabama fans are also. Here's the other
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: thing you need to keep in mind. Multiple things can
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: be true at once. I think people have a really
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: hard time understanding this, okay? And I said this on Monday.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: David Smith Jr. 's crew is not the only reason
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Tennessee lost. Even when they had three touchdowns overturned by
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: penalty flags, even when they didn't get the obvious pass interference,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: even when they didn't flag the obvious late hit on
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the final play of the game before the field goal
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: that would have knocked them 15 yards back and possibly
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: out of.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Field goal range. Tennessee had plenty of chances to win.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: If they execute a fourth-and-one play that they did earlier
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: in the game, they win the game. They likely ice
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the clock, force South Carolina to call the remaining timeouts,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: and probably win that game, and they're close to field
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: goal range at that point, to make it a two-sore game.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: All those things are true. The officiating was terrible, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: it was lopsided against Tennessee. And Tennessee was still good
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: enough and had chances to put South Carolina away, and
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: because of their own undisciplined play and terrible execution on
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: a fourth down play by the quarterback, they didn't accomplish it.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: All those things are true. It's not true. always just
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: the one thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: We get into this mindset of it's always just one
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: thing all the time.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of things that go into that. That's
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: my PSA statement. for Alabama fans in my mention right now.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: And the guys on Next Round Live are smart enough
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to know that also. And they know that coming out
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: of the Georgia-Alabama game. That was a terrible no call.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Should have been a pass interference late in that game
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that would have given Alabama more of a chance. But also,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: of course, Alabama could have done other things over the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: course of a 60-minute game to ensure that that wasn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: the deal breaker.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And I would add in, my biggest takeaway from that
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: call in the Georgia-Bama game is that Bama didn't get
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the call at home. They're known for getting that call
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: at home, especially. And that's when you realize, oh, Dick
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Saban's out there. Seriously. I thought that in the moment.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: They didn't get that call at Bryant-Diddy Stadium. That's insane. Also,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: the number one on the list of Clay's rankings of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: top-chain restaurants is kind of crazy. Chad, we did a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: breakdown of... I forgot who did these rankings, but we
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: were guessing who was on this list. You remember doing
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: this show where we were guessing these chain restaurants?
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was like the most popular in each state.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Most popular, yes.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: And we were surprised about who was number one and
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: two on that list that year because normally it's Olive Garden.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: They dominated for years on this, whatever media outlet put
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: together this ranking based on popularity. My guess is that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Clay doesn't have Olive Garden, number one, based on what
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: we know he likes. But I'm assuming the top five
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: is crazy. Here it is. Outback is number two. Texas Roadhouse,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: number one.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Well, this is not a top five. This is different
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: categories that he did. He didn't do like an outright ranking.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: He had best sit-down chain restaurant at Texas Roadhouse.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He tweeted out, though, that Texas Roadhouse is the undisputed GOAT.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Undisputed king of all of them, yeah. He's got that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: as best restaurant overall of any category. He did best dish,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: which is a Bloomin' Onion from Outback. He did best Mexican,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: which is Chewy's. Best Italian, Pucca di Peppo.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Best Asian, P.F.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Chang.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: We need to go back, though, because this all started
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: because of the Cheesecake Factory. Somebody in the YouTube chat
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: explained this to me because I do not follow politics
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: closely enough. Sorry, guilty. I don't care that much about it,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: about the rhetoric and the back and forth on all
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: of it. But apparently, Barack Obama... had some sort of dig.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: He's campaigning for Democrats across the country. And he had
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: some sort of dig about the Trump White House is
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: run like a cheesecake factory, or it's like a cheesecake factory.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what was said.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So I guarantee you, somebody.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Watching the show right now can fill me in and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I will read it and let you know exactly what happened.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: But some sort of diss about, and I even asked
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: our crew before and they weren't quite sure either. Some
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: sort of diss saying Trump is cheesecake factory.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And yada, yada, yada.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: So Clay comes back on Clay and Buck and says,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Cheesecake Factory is awesome. I don't know why you're going
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to demean the people that would feel like it's a
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: luxury to go to Cheesecake Factory. It's not cheap. It's
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a huge menu. And then Clay started talking about how
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Cheesecake Factory was a childhood luxury for him. Now, liberal
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: outlets have come back and said, Clay, Cheesecake Factory was
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: put in Nashville when you were 26 years old. You
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: did not go to Cheesecake Factory as a child when
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you grew up. So you're lying about this. Clay then
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: responded and said, well, it was in D.C. when I
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: was at school at George Washington. Sorry, I didn't get
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: the exact time right. Clay's point is well taken because
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: it would be a childhood luxury. The way I grew up,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: if we drove to Green Hills and went to Cheesecake Factory,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: that's a special occasion. I mean, that's not something we're
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: doing quite often. Like that would be a big expense
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: for my family to go to it. So I can
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: see how people would say, why are you dissing a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: place that's not cheap? And it's pretty good, which I agree.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Cheesecake Factory is pretty good. My wife worked at Cheesecake
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Factory when she was at Belmont for about three months
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: because it was so hard because it was busy all
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: the time. And they were so good at training everybody.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You had to know every item on the menu. You
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: had to taste every item. You had to know it
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: up and down.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: She was a hostess.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: She wasn't even a server at the time, and it
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: was difficult just doing that job. So, yeah, look, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: get where Clay's coming from on that, but this is
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: where the whole list, it stemmed from that discussion.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Obama was saying the White House is Cheesecake Factory. It's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: a weird analogy is what someone said. So then Clay
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: was defending the White House saying Cheesecake Factory is also good.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: So that gets us to Clay's list of best restaurant,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: best Mexican restaurant. Hutton, I'll start here. What do you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: think about Texas Roadhouse? Of all the sit-down places, do
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: you think that's the best?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I don't think about Texas Roadhouse is how I would respond.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: In terms of where he's got the Bloomin' Onion and
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: all this stuff, I think about those things. I don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: think about the Texas Roadhouse menu at all, and I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: pass it a lot. It's around, but it's not one
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that I choose constantly to where I would call it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the GOAT at all. I'm with you.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: There was one built in Mount Juliet recently. I've been
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: once and it was packed and I thought it was good.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't, the problem with that, like at
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that level, I can't for sure say something is better
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: except for one entry that I will give here that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Clay did not consider.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Cheddars.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Cheddars is incredible for the value. In terms of value,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you're not, you're going to spend less there. You're going
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: to get more food. I've never had a bad experience
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: at Cheddars. Now, I did look this up, and Cheddar's
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: is only in three states, which Clay will love these
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: three states.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Texas, Florida, Tennessee.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They have 193 locations in those three states. That's where
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: they're located. So this is not a national thing, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of locations in those three states.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I love Cheddar's.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I'd put that in consideration over Texas Roadhouse. Flash the
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: rankings again, guys, please, of all the best restaurants. Texas Roadhouse,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: best restaurant. Bloomin' Onion and Outback. the best dish. I
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: can't argue with that. It's a very famous one. I'd
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: like to add some consideration to the Cheddar Bay Biscuits
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: at Red Lobster. If we're talking about just the best
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: reason to go to a restaurant and it's free when
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you get there.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: That's a great example of one. You've got the salsa,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the jalapeno ranch salsa that Chewy's offers is fantastic as well.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: When you have to ask for the special, I was
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: told like, just cup your hands in a circle. Like
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I want the special and Salsa, and they bring that
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: ranch jalapeno salsa to you. I've got no problem with Chewy's.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I think Clay nailed it on that one. Chewy's is
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a great one. Uncle Julio's, just thinking of other actual
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: chains that are high-end, Mexican, really good also, but I'm
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: a huge fan of the Elvis Presley Memorial meal at
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Chewy's going.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Way back, so I like that one.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Clay says he's going to get hate from the Olive
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Garden people, but Buca di Peppo.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Is his choice, which is a family style.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking if you're going family style or that level
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: of Italian restaurant, I think Maggiano's to me is about
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the same price point.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: And I would prefer that one.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Man, for best Italian, I'm thinking anything. I don't think
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: about Buca di Beppo either. I'm judging this just based
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: on what's top of mind for me. It would be
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Olive Garden, unfortunately. just how they have marketed their restaurant
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: and how often we would go, uh, growing up. That's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: where we would go if we were going to Italian.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And you know what it's for is that it's the endless,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: it's the endless pasta, the never ending pasta.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: That, I mean, that's definitely the most famous and most
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: popular of all of them. Um, A lot of love
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: for Texas Roadhouse in our chat right now saying absolutely
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: undisputed number one. I agree with Clay on that one. Again,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I think it's good. I think it's certainly under consideration.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I like Cheddar's better than Texas Roadhouse. Someone said that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: this is a great one. The rolls with the cinnamon butter.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I think of that more of a Logan's Roadhouse thing from.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Back in the day. You know what I'm talking about here, Hutton?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Like the Cheddar Bay Biscuits, they bring out that cinnamon
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: butter you can dip the rolls in.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Delicious.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Logan's, right?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Apparently, but people are saying Texas Roadhouse has that also.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Didn't know.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: So that maybe puts Texas Roadhouse, gives them an edge
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: in that one. Baylor in here says Chewy's is Tex-Mex,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: not really Mexican.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, semantics.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: We're talking about Tex-Mex, Mexican, however you want to do it.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Clay even said, I'm not talking Chinese, Korean, Japanese. I'm
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: just going to classify it as Asian when he says P.F.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Chang's.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to be labeled a racist. So he
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: just went with all of Asia for a restaurant. P.F.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Chang's is the choice.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: The only one I would even think of is Payway,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: which is the fast, casual version of P.F.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Chang's that I really like also. And Panda Express is
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: fast food. This is more sit-down. But yeah, I mean,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: We were probably sheltered where we grew up. I didn't
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: grow up with a lot of Asian restaurant chains in
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: my hometown. But if I'm thinking Asian sit-down restaurant, boom, P.F.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Chang's is the only one that comes to mind.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: And the other one is.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Payway Express, which is fast, casual version of P.F.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Chang's.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: See, here I'm thinking Sunda, but that's just recently. It
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: would be P.F. Chang's if I'm just going throughout the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: entire life. You're right. That's the go for me.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Clay went to all of his favorite local spots. Bourbon Steak,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you mentioned. Perry's Steakhouse in Franklin has different spots locally.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I thought the chain debate was interesting. Cheesecake Factory is
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: tough to beat, too, only because of the options. You're
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: going to find something there you love. No matter what,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: like somebody might hate Olive Garden because they don't like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Italian food. You can get every type of food possible
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: at Cheesecake Factory.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And you can get something. You can order an appetizer
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that everyone at the table likes. No doubt. Those mac
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and cheese balls or whatever it is. Everyone would like that. Everyone,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for the most part, likes the Bloomin' Onions. that wants
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to try the blue and onion. You mentioned Red Lobster.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: You could get that there too with those biscuits that
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you mentioned.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I've had a bad experience at the last two Outback
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Steakhouses I went to that I just thought the quality
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: of the food was so drastically different at one spot
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I went to compared to other ones I've been to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: in the past that it left a bad taste in
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: my mouth. But before that experience, I would put Outback
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Steakhouse right there with Texas Roadhouse or any of these
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: other spots.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Now that I know.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: That if it's true that Texas Roadhouse has the cinnamon butter,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: With the rolls, it's way higher on my list now.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: See, Logan's for me is top, ahead of Outback, just
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: based on what I like to eat there. Cheddar's, though,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: you and I both like grilled salmon a lot, so
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that more than anything. Not everybody goes for that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Cheddar's has good grilled salmon. The spazania, the combo spaghetti
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: lasagna at Cheddar's is great. They've got a great Monte
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Cristo sandwich. That's like, I mean, these things are terrible
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: for you, but delicious. It's like a fried, you know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: ham and cheese that you dip in grape preserves. It's
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: unbelievably good. Cheddars, I'm telling you, I've never had a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: bad experience at Cheddars. We talked about this with Fast
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Food Hunt at Arby's. Never had a bad experience at Arby's.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: Totally agree.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I feel it's 100% satisfaction every time I've been to
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a Cheddars. I'm putting that ahead of Texas Roadhouse. But
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: I'll also say, I mean, Clay's right. Texas Roadhouse is
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: pretty great. I've never had a terrible experience there. I've
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: just been to Cheddar's, I think, more than there. Longhorn
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Steakhouse is not one I think about much. There's a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: reason for it. I think Texas Roadhouse is superior to Longhorn.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Which one is it with the peanuts on the floor?
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: That was Logan's Roadhouse. And Logan's is the one I
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: think about with the cinnamon butter. But again, we're being
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: told that they have the same thing at Texas Roadhouse.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: We should go. We should have a.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: We should go to the bar and watch some games there.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think peanut shells on the floor is a selling.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Point to me for Logan's.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I just remember everyone.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but some people are like, that's what you remember
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: about it, but it's not like, let's go to the
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: place that has peanut shells all over the floor for Logan's.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they use that as a selling point, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it's not something that entices me.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Imagine working there and having to clean that up.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, God bless the people who work in all
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: these restaurants. because I don't know that I would enjoy
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: any part of a job at one of these places.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Where would you put Cracker Barrel, real quick?
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: In terms of what they are, which is, I would say,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: a level below what Clay was ranking. It's a chain restaurant, though.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: It's elite. It is a chain sit-down restaurant, for sure.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: But I still think of it as more of a
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: fast casual, even though it is a sit-down restaurant.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Cracker Barrel is elite. I love it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And if we're doing things where you qualify if you
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: don't have a drive-thru, that would be Waffle House as well.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: They would be in this.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Saturday, Hutton, big moment in the Withrow household. My wife
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Angie has poisoned my kids into thinking that Waffle House sucks,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: that it's dirty and it's not good. I'm saying Waffle
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: House is an American institution. It is the last great
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: American diner. I will die by this. I loved Waffle
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: House since I was a kid. And there's a new
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Waffle House that's put up in our hometown. And a
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: lot of people have been going to it. It's kind
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of in the middle of town. And after practice Saturday morning,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: took Evie and one of her travel ball teammates, Berkeley,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to the Waffle House for a lunch slash breakfast before
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: dropping Berkeley off at her brother's baseball tournament at the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Mount Juliet Park. And?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: She loved it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: She loved it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And I said, Evie, now we can do some daddy-daughter
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: dates for breakfast to Waffle House, since I know that
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: you love this. I told her all about scattered, smothered, covered, chunked. However,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: she wanted the hash browns. She loved the hash browns.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: She got that waffle hash brown combo. Loved all of it.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I have created a Waffle House fan in my family,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm thrilled about this.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yes. That is a huge moment. She will never
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: forget it. Or Chad.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: And I think it's just like the people that don't
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: like it, the context is you're there at 3 in
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: the morning. And that's why they don't like it because
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: of the clientele at that point because it's 24 hours.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: But if you just wake up at 7 a.m. on
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: a Saturday and go to.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: A Waffle House, it's great.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Refilling your coffee constantly. Our waitress was a delight. It
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: was nice talking to us, asking about their softball team.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: It was a terrific experience.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I love a good Waffle House.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The breakfast aroma. Same thing with Cracker Barrel. Every one
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: of them, very similar when you walk through the doors.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Now, I will say the one thing you must prepare for.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Wash your clothes immediately when you leave the Waffle House
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: because you're going to smell like an open grill. No
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: matter what, you're there in the open kitchen and you're
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: watching all of it.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: The breakfast cigar.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: We support our troops all the time. Salute to service,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: as we showed with our green shirt yesterday. Waffle House,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I believe, was started by an Army short order cook.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: So a lot of their shorthand and everything they do
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: is based on military style short order cooking. So it is,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, their routine is top-notch in terms of getting
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: that order to the cook, getting it out to you quickly.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I love, I'm hungry right now thinking about it. I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: love Waffle House.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: See, we're thinking Waffle House now over Texas Roadhouse.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: We're going to have to add this to our routine,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: not just Arby's, but we'll have to stop at a
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Waffle House on all of our road trips now too.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Coming up, we've got thoughts on the WNBA. Let's trade
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: ahead here on Hutton and Withrow. We're about to jump
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in on Hutton and Withrow. with some WNBA thoughts. We
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: could discuss Clay Travis's WNBA team, expansion team, the National Balls.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Founded by Clay, Jennifer Say is going to have the
• 36:08
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• 36:13
  Speaker 1: former national champion gymnast, former Levi's brand president. She walked
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: away from a corporate job there rather than say something
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: that she didn't believe. And she started XXXY Athletics instead.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And the mission in their words is, is to empower
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: female athletes. Take a stand for fair competition. They call
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it the T that launched a movement. And this is
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: real athletic apparel, Chad.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: T's, truckers' hats out right now. If you want the shirt,
• 36:36
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• 36:40
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• 36:46
  Speaker 1: So WNBA with the.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: They won't speak out against trans joining the team. They
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: wouldn't define what a woman was. They don't like anyone
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: that is a fan of the Indiana team with Caitlin Clark.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: All of them. They don't like us. Chad, what do
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they like?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Well, apparently they like matinee WNBA finals matchups on a
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Thursday afternoon at 1230. Boy, that nothing says big time
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: sporting event. Like playing the possible decisive game of your
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: championship at 1230 on a Thursday, all because you wanted
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to move out of your 3500 seat home because you
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: might have 7000 fans show up to the game. So
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: you move into your NBA arena. But in doing so,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: you have a conflict with the actual NBA team in town,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Hawks playing the Cleveland Cavs tonight. The
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: NBA would not budge. They don't like moving games unless
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: it's a severe weather issue that's taking place because there's
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: a domino effect of every team's schedule. And I know
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: if they moved it, it would have caused, I think,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: Cleveland flying in late at night and playing like eight
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: hours later in the game. And they didn't want to
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: do that because of a back-to-back. So they're playing the
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: game at 1230.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: You have fans that want to go to that game.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Season ticket holders that are planning things. This is just
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: typical football. you have to plan this way in advance.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: And you have to plan for the small arenas with
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a team that is capable of making your finals and
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: winning a title. This is on the planning and the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: foresight of the league trying to do this and acting
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: like the NBA would actually do this and now they're
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: pissed off about it. It's also, it reminds me of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: school day. Remember when you would be able to go
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: watch a game or they would play something in your gym?
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: and in the middle of the day you'd have a
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: high school game. This is what this reminds me of.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I think the only way to
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: sell out that arena is if you brought every local
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: school in for free to watch the game also.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: You could bring.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: All the little kids from all over Atlanta to go
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: watch the game. You could certainly make that happen. I'm
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: looking at a column right now from our old buddy
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Dan Wolkin who says, let's put the blame for the
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Game 6 scheduling debacle where it belongs, with the league,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and with the dream. So putting it squarely on them
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and no one else, not the NBA, not a misogynistic
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: decision to not move the game or anything else. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: read another column from Yahoo where it was basically, this
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: is going to be what people remember about this series.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: It's all the back and forth about the scheduling problems
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and not all this great play with the rookie of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the year. And this person also got to like point
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: number eight before they mentioned Caitlin Clark on reasons that
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: people watch the WNBA and why they had such a
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: successful year. So I kind of know exactly where they're
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: coming from.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: When you wait that long to get to Caitlin Clark
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: and propping up Angel Reese's, but the defensive player of
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the year, the WNBA and all these things we should
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: remember this 2026 season for is.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always something other than basketball that I remember
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the WNBA for. Always. Something off the court. Or if
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: it's on the court, it's a fight or it's pointing
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a finger. It's never about a play or a moment
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that helps win a game.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Ever. Never.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: And they don't embrace that, but that's the only reason
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: that they have the attention. And they should have the
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: attention for their play. If they can sell out their arena, great,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: do it. Have the atmosphere. I would have that over
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: empty seats and have 7,000.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, the games in Golden State look
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: good from an atmosphere standpoint. I'm seeing highlights roll right now,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and the crowd seems into it. It seems pretty packed.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Steve Kerr joked, it's like, well, playing at 1230 is
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: better than playing that night in front of 75 people
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: at the local YMCA. was what he said about the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: game scheduling issue when he was asked about it. I mean, look,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: just the fact that– and I know they're going to
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: move up in arena, I think, next year. They're going
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: to play in State Farm Arena where the Hawks play.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: But the first thing is you've got to get out
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: of playing in a 3,500-seat building. There's so much demand
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: that that's no longer viable. And the dream they're going
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: to be doing that moving forward– But, I mean, Hunt,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: you're right. It's just there's nothing of basketball substance that
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: jumps out to me with that league right now that's
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: pulling me in. It's always these– it's either made-up controversy
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: or actual controversy.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And now you could have a WNBA season.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I saw the coach of the Golden State Valkyries state
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that he wishes it was a national holiday when the
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: WNBA season was going to end, on a WNBA championship day,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: that everybody could take off work and watch the WNBA
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: championship be played out. But that's not reality. I mean,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: it's always something like this we're talking about. Always.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And Holly Rose was saying that they could sell out
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the arena.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, she said, I've got a solution. Let's move it
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: to Mercedes-Benz Stadium.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, the stadium.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Getting absolutely crushed over that suggestion.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yes. Coming up, we have the bundle where JT is
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: winning this week. He's going to join us in the victories,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and we're going to hit on the three-leg parlay straight
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: ahead here on the hunting with rope. It's a great offer,
• 42:10
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• 42:20
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• 42:24
  Speaker 1: time to go for the bundle where we have been
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: very close, but no cigar. We're getting it this week.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: And one of the games I love is Ole Miss
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: taking on Auburn, covering this number of 11. I'm taking
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss at home. The explosiveness on offense, the ability
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to score in the passing game, the ability to score
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in the red zone. Auburn doesn't do that. And I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: think there's just too much firepower that Ole Miss doesn't
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: cover this number against Auburn this Saturday.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that one.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss, we've seen the seesaw effect, too, now coming
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: off a tough loss at Texas. Auburn also coming off
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: a tough loss at home to LSU. But Ole Miss
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: getting them at home, I like it, Hutton. I don't
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: like the fact I'm waffling on this game. I originally
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: like my Tulane green wave. I told you I was
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: going to go with a Friday night college football game
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: on the road at Charlotte. I saw Charlotte one and six.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I saw all these different factors. Then I started to
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: look more into it. Tulane just lost to UT San
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Antonio 42 to nine. Charlotte has played a little bit
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: better as of late and they're coming off a buy
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and they're at home. I've had a lot of success
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: with home teams on Friday night. So give me Charlotte
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: at home against Tulane to cover the Plus 11.5 at
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Hard Rock Bet.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Final answer.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: And you've had a lot of success, period, on Friday night,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: not just against teams like this. So, yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: And I've had success taking the home team, except for
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: last week when Virginia let me down. But I'm typically
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: taking home teams on Friday night in all these bets.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: So I am going to go back to the home
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: team philosophy and go with Charlotte, who is coming off
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: a bye in this game.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I love the Friday night picks with Withrow for going
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: for the bundle. JT, where are we going? Where are
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: we winning this week?
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Guys, this started at seven and a half. And Chad,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: you asked me to do some homework. I would say
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: that I spent at least 15 minutes working on this.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I turned this pick in yesterday morning at around 10
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: and 1030. And I see that our fearless leader, Clay Travis,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: posted his locks at sportandstate.com. And he says Penn State
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be favored by over a touchdown against anyone in
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten right now. They're called Purdue, not Purdue.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: The Boilermakers cover in an ugly game in Happy Valley.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: So fingers crossed, guys. I have let you down and
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: let you down and let you down.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: But I hope that that's not the case this weekend.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: JT, something about seeing Purdue flash up on our group
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: text that you were picking them, and I thought, JT
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: has done his research this week. He's going with the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Purdue Boilermakers, and we are about to win this bad boy.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: All three together at once. JT has picked it up.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I love this pick. I love the research put into it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Penn State, not good. Purdue also not good. But Purdue
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: is going to keep this thing close. I love it, JT.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Not good versus not good means they cover.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: And Tulane-Charlotte, two teams, not good.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Look at this. This is great. You don't use good,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you use great to describe Withrow on Friday nights.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: It's a big week.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Because my lock tomorrow is going to be something in
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: that Baylor-UCF Friday night game. I'm going to go back
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: to Friday. I don't know what I'm doing yet. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: waffled on Tulane and Charlotte, went back and forth who
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I was taking, ended up on Charlotte. So Hutton, I
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: just hope that we come back and I'm not 15-4
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: on Monday.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Let's at least get the split.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: If I can get to 2-0, remember my goal was
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: to get over 20 before accumulating five losses on Friday night.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: You can do this.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: If I can do that, I've set some sort of
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a record, and I feel like I should be a
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: guest on Bet the Board if I'm able to accomplish this.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: 88% win rate, I believe is what that said. I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: know what the percentage is for... Orlovsky wouldn't, yeah. But
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: we do. That is... I mean, you're making money, what, 52%?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: If you get hit 52%, if you're one of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: bookies out in Vegas, this is huge. This is outstanding.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: This is the lock. I love that you changed your
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: mind and you went with the home team just based
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  Speaker 1: on the fact that you did the research and you
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: knew and you have the record that you do on
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Friday following it.
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  Speaker 3: I need to somehow.
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  Speaker 2: make sure Saturday and Sunday start to at least creep
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: up a little bit closer to my Friday night success.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: But Hey, right now I'll take it. I had a
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: very good Saturday also. Um, I bet South Carolina as
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I picked them last week and I've hedged my happiness
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: quite a bit and bet big and hard rock bet
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: on South Carolina. And they covered on that last field
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: goal by half a point at minus two and a half.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So it was a big Saturday for me last week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's roll. Let's be winners again. When you said Auburn,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Georgia was a one-off. I'm thinking bingo. This is where
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  Speaker 1: I'm going. With Ole Miss.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I really like Ole Miss.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to look back and say, how
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: on earth did Auburn go into Georgia and win? That's
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: going to be maybe the craziest outcome of the year
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: in the SEC.
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• 47:35
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