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Fantasy Concert Lineup (featuring Church Jams Now podcast) · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Right, Welcome to Church Jams Now. Oh sorry sorry, yeah, it
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does kind of feel like who's gonna take this over? Whose broadcast is it
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right now? Whose dad owns all the boats right now? Who's right?
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Yeah? So today this is technically the Black Sheep podcast, but if you
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want to, you know, if you want to think of this as the
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Church Jams Now podcast, then you can certainly think of that. You know,
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it probably would get more listeners if if that's what you were expecting this
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podcast to be. But this is the Black Church, the Black the right.
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Yep. We'll get a few Holley Luliahs and Amens and the ham and
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B three and then we hand out jam at the end. You go,
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all right, well that's a long enough intro. We've got Island Josh TJ
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with us, and yeah, we're gonna do a kind of draft episode,
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but not really a draft exactly, kind of a draft kind of not but
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we're gonna do an episode where we've been wanting to do this for a while.
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So in the past, if you have been a listener, all two
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of you in the world, you know that we like doing these little fantasy
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draft episodes where we kind of like center around a theme and then we kind
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of figure, you know, pick bands from different categories and it's a great
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time to sort of be nostalgic and you know, pick our favorite bands and
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then argue like we always do. So what we're gonna do today is we're
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gonna pick bands that we think will make the best show you've ever been to.
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Okay, so we're gonna pick the opening band, We're gonna pick a
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couple other bands that are gonna be sort of before the headliner, and then
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obviously we'll pick up we'll pick the headlining band as well. So we're gonna
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try to curate the best live experience, at least from what either we think
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might be the best live experience or maybe you you a listener, we think,
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oh, this is what you would want to see a show to be
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in the world. So that's what we're gonna do. It's sort of like
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a fantasy show episode is basically probably how we want to bill it, right,
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love it fantasy concert episode. So with that said, we're gonna do
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kind of traditional round by round and then pick by pick kind of bassis.
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So Colin is about to give us the spinning wheel of Death, and we're
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going to figure out our fate of our order. So let's let's see it,
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Colin, right, and our first picker is going to be Josh literally
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setting the stage, if you will. Number two will be drum roll please
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waiting for the the ticker here is Kylin. Wow. Oh yeah, so
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Church James now episode Now, we've got the numbers on this episode. Next
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it is it can't be TJ. Please don't learn to be TJ. Just
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barely Mason, just barely is that my nickname? Now? Just barely that
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that that's a T shirt right there, right barely Mason is just barely meninga
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that sounds like a nineties band for some reason, just barely does and just
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barely me So the order of deduction. Last, we have t bringing up
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the rear, but guys to do so. I can almost guarantee you,
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having done about one hundred episodes with TJ, that there's gonna be no problem
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with him going last. It's going to be something. Plus he gets to
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picked twice right away. He gets to pick the first of the second category.
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So love that. Well. So one of the things that came up
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as we were talking, because obviously we don't prepare much for episodes like this,
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because we're not that kind of podcast. Is like, how are we
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basing our draft picks? Like, are we wanting to pick based on our
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own like personal favorite bands that fit each one of these categories? Do we
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want to pick based on what we think we'll sell tickets? Do we want
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to base it out of like what we think might fit the best sort of
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theme. So it sounds like we're kind of wanting to just like leave that
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up for each picker to figure that out for themselves. Right, So if
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you're if you're a listener and you're like where, like why are they picking
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the way? Like you know, like in the NFL, right, people
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pick players based on trying to win the game, Like that's how you pick
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a player. But this doesn't necessarily mean we're trying to win or make most
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money or even necessarily our personal favorite. It can be any of those combinations.
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I love that. Yeah, So all right, well TJ right or
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sorry not tj' your last Josh first? Right, So without further ado,
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So this first round is high energy opening bands. So these are the kind
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of the bands where it's like, you know a lot of people are maybe
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like starting to pour in, but you know, maybe not quite. You
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know, the venue isn't full yet, and you got to get a band
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in there that like people are gonna be like whoa Like I was not expecting
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that, and uh so let's let's hear what your high energy band is so
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first round, all right, do you want to kind of hear what I'm
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going in with this to make a lot of my strategy? All right?
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Yeah, I'm just just butts and seats man getting the dollar bills I went
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for. Really, this is a very selfish festival where this is just all
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bands that I want to see, and most of them that I haven't seen
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or in certain capacities before. So I don't know if it's going to sell
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a lot of tickets, but it's gonna be a great show for me.
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And it's very much steeped in definitely what we've been covering and talking about in
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Church Jams. On Church Jams now for some of the recent episodes, so
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that you'll see some themes there. But for my high energy opener, I
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am picking the wedding. The wedding and I have a twist though, I
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want Kevin keene Ken Shelton singing. I'm having vocals dual vocals, the other
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one singing bgv's so they can like trade off. So they're playing anything from
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their whole catalog. It's all on the table. And then maybe we'll have
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Abish on drums just for fun too. But I think they would be a
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great high energy opener. I love that. So one thing that we forgot
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to mention off the top of the of the episode is that everyone is trying
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to break down everyone else's picks. So, oh the idea. We do
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this, We do this for all of our drafts, but we forgot to
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mention it because we just imagine it's a given. That's that's Mason and nice
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fault. We want to dog on Joshua now. We want to We want
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to try to tell them why. And I'll start off. I've seen the
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wedding not once but twice, and both times I did not feel the high
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energy. When were you seeing them? Though? They want to know?
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Yeah outdoors? This is a Kevin era or the Matt era both okay,
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one in each, So I don't know, Mason, were you there at
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the wedding Mason when yeah? When they played at life Flight, yeah,
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yeah, the only So here's my argument against the wedding. I think they
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were. My only argument was they were the kind of band when I would
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go to Life Light where typically when I would go to Life Light and Life
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Light, if you guys don't know, it was a massive Christian music festival,
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Like it was a free festival, so like everybody and their dog was
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there. What's that? Where was fall South Dakota got it? So they
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would typically get maybe like three hundred thousand total people over the three day weekend,
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almost the size of our stand. Basically basically the state like grew in
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fifty percent of population then that weekend. So anyway, here's my my deal
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with the wedding. I thought they threw a fine live show. It was.
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It was fine, But at Life Light there were bands that were like,
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you know, the edgy like kind of teenage inks kind of bands,
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and then everybody else was sort of like CCM, like big pop hit kind
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of bands like Newsboys or whatever. Right, and the wedding played obviously like
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the teen Ink stage or whatever, And the only time my dad would go
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over to the teen Ink stage was when the wedding would play. So that
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my argument is like when I think of when I think of like high energy
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opening band. If my dad is moving over to go to see you guys
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play, like clearly it's not high energy and has great taste. So on.
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On multiple the wedding interviews and episodes we have done, we have talked
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about how they are fake heavy. Yeah, that's a good point themselves.
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They have they have addressed that themselves. They have said, we are definitely
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a fake heavy band for that like genre. Maybe it's still a thing.
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But easy coore remember that being like a thing. They sort of feel like
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they would have maybe like fit well within Easy four. Well. I first
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saw them play at Big Church at my church, so so the wedding was
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like a local band church Big No, it was well you had you had
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youth group, and then you had Big Church, and they were the one
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band that our pastor was like, oh yeah, they should they should come
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on stage and play one of their songs. I don't think you're helping Josh's
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case here, No, no, no, listen, Mason, we need
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more people like your dad to come see the because then they may stick around
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for the second band. That's true. I'm here. I'm here for the
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fake heavy man. Hey, I'm also a dad though, so that appeals
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to me, and it's part of my life. You know. You you
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were very clear that your goals butts in seats and so you know, the
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kids will stick around if the parents are there, vice versa. You know,
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keep it all in the family. So there's an angle there that you
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know, I do kind of understand it. It's like mom and dad are
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going to this festival. They're going to drop off, you know, a
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little billy there you go, and then they hear the wedding plane They're like,
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you know what, maybe I'll stick around. Yeah, well fake heavy
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and dad, yeah, you know into it. Yeah, you're just playing
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forty chess. I love it. That's it, man. Right then another
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level, all right, second was Kylon oh Man. Okay, I put
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for my first one listener. Oh cool? Remember or no Listener? Hey
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wow, I don't know how to argue against that one. All right,
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go ahead. Well, so my very first show that I ever played,
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when I was fifteen, was opening for Listener, and so I'm I'm I'm
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going to lean into Josh's argument a little bit. There was no one there
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at the show, but my dad was there and after the fact he was
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like that Listener guy was pretty great. I having seen him a few times,
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I think he brings like a really aggressive kind of like punk rock energy,
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but with like acoustic guitars and trumpet. It's it. It's kind of
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like like a bare feet Yeah. For for for people that aren't like fully
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ready to jump into like me without you, they're like, Okay, I
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can kind of get this. It's like weird loud poetry, sure, and
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and I think that can potentially bring a lot of people. Plus he's just
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fucking great live. He's just so good. Yeah. First time, the
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first time Mason and I saw him, he was playing a washing machine.
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There was the Washington Yes, oh the wash Maine era was like so good,
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oh, so good. Yeah. Mason and I were sitting there like
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what is going on? What is And at that time the chariot was Mason
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and I servant band. And it was like three weeks later, all of
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a sudden, he's in the David de Lajaes video and we're like, right,
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that's a guy. Yeah, oh yeah, he's everywhere. So here's
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my argument not that you picked listener in Dan Smith, because I think you
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should pick them. I think a great pick. But my argument against the
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pick is more so that you picked it in this round for like the high
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energy act, because for me, I would probably like if it was my
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own like personal pick, I would have picked them in the next round,
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which is gonna be the edgy band, not because like Listener is like edgy
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lyrically or they've done anything like controversial too though they but what they would be
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is like especially like if you're gonna go like more, I don't know,
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I don't know what the other bands are gonna end up picking, but if
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you end up doing like some more like hardcore or punk or like or metal
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stuff, like they do feel like Listener was one of those bands where,
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yeah, they could tour with the Chariot and they were kind of like for
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Chariot fans, it was kind of like, oh, like I get what
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is this. I get what is going on, but also like this is
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so different than like the other music that maybe the Chariot would typically tour with,
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and so they would feel like a better like edgy act. They're not
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gonna be an act where like you know, again, when I'm thinking high
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energy, I'm thinking like people freaking out, like you know, even if
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they don't know the band, like they're they're going nuts, and you know,
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Listener, it's one of those bands where, especially if you're like in
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the wrong crowd, you're just probably like, what the hell is going on
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here? Even if you're like captivated by it, you're like, what is
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going on? And I don't know if I want that as my high energy
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act. So that would be my l against picking Listener in this particular spot.
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Not that you shouldn't pick Listener at all, you should, but just
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for this particular category. Okay, all right, I concur We'll see how
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the rest of the lineup turns out. Yeah, I'm kind of curious to
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see where you're gonna go with this. I'm intrigued. If Listener is your
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opening band, that's gonna be wild. Next is Mason? All Right?
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Well, you guys just gave me like a softball, I think. So
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my high Energy Act is a band that Colin loves, a band I love.
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Maybe it's a band you guys love. But the Undertaking, I mean
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they basically started off furnas FasTIS last year, and if you were at that
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show at Furnace Fest, you like, maybe I was at not had half
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of it because I was trying to find a new shoe. But if you
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were not at that show, you probably are gonna be like, this is
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the best way for Furness Fest to ever start. And again, it's one
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of those bands where, even if you don't know who the Undertaking is the
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fact that like Austin is like jumping out in the crowd and is basically playing
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half the show in the crowd. Even if you don't Again, even if
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you don't know the music, you're just like, this is awesome. I'm
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like so ready for even the rest of the music that's gonna be happening after
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this. So I think the Undertaking is such a great high energy opening act
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right now in any like kind of like punk hardcore metal music right now.
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Like it blows my mind that they're not like the opening band that's getting like
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on tours with all these other bands that we love right now, because they're
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just like such a perfect opening act. So that's gonna be my pick.
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I don't know if you guys have any arguments against, but that's my that's
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my argument as TJ. You're going too high energy. I mean, I
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don't know how you follow it if you start with the Undertaking, right you
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know, I don't I don't think maybe I don't think that you're wrong,
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Josh. I think it might just be a little bit too much of like,
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uh, you know, slap in the face. I think if you're
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you're definitely clearing all the dads out with that band. I'll see you in
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a couple of hours to pick you up. The new balances are down the
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block, that's for sure, Kylan. Did you have anything to add to
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that conversation if you could hear it? No, I could, I could
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hear it all. Yeah, No, I fully agree with Josh. I
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think it might be a little like too much right, like like you you
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you have to ease in just a little bit, like like I I could
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see them like second build, but first I don't know. I don't know
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all all the dads are going. Well, then the category should have been
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medium energy, opening base. I wonder who came up with these descriptors for
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this. I like how that's your first argument calling and you were literally the
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one that made these categories. The only thing we could complain about, Yeah,
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because it's basically a perfect pick, So we have to be a little
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well picky, right, Yeah, here here's my nitpick. Austin Visser always
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dresses like he's trying to be like in Fear Loathing in Las Vegas personal fashion.
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No it's not, but okay, okay, he doesn't dress like those
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homosexuals in show in sho oh m hmm. Okay, I don't think you
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heard that. Did you hear that conversation earlier? TG, I wasn't sure
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if you were if you were here or not. No, and the listeners
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definitely didn't because we were. That's why that makes it so much more fun.
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All Right, it is my turn next. So I think that your
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opener needs to be as how the energy is possible. As you can tell
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from my previous argument against Maceon, so I am picking. Oh yeah.
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I should also mention that my theme for this festival or this or this billing
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is bands that were Christian but are no longer necessarily Christian oka and so my
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opening the athist band. They're just atheists in a band, yeah, or
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the distinction. Yeah, Family Force five is my first pick. Okay,
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I I think I think that gets the younger crowd in. You know,
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you know, maybe mom and dad are dropping off the kids, but they're
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like, hey, you know what, there's some catching stuff over there,
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and that's not super offensive. I mean, it's not like the undertaking necessary.
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Just country gentlemen, right, we're just country gentlemen. Yeah, you
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know, I think it's a good way to start off. I wish it
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was. If it was my ideal, this would start off at like nine
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pm, like right, and the sun's going down and or do you starts
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building up you know, it starts cooling off a little bit in the middle
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of the summer. Yeah, I think I think it'd be a fun time.
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I'm not like the biggest family Forest five fan, but I would love
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to see them lived again, that's for sure. No, they're a great
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show. Well, also a good time. You like totally fucked me on
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it. Later, I kind of figured, so I did have them you
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message my whole list. Yeah, it's good. So so I don't have
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any arguments against Famous Force five right now, other than the fact that like
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they did get kind of big. So the fact that they're like an opening
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band. I'm like, how do you like other bands? I got only
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killers on my on my on my list here on right, Okay, well
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so that so that's one of my arguments. But the other argument that I
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may have, but I don't know your other picks is the fact that I'm
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like, how are they gonna fit with all of your other bands like that?
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Yeah, they are like high energy, You're You're totally right, Like
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they do fit that billing, But how are they gonna fit with the other
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picks? It will be interesting to see, Yeah, it will be any
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other arguments against No, I'm just mad it's a good pick. And I
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also just say so, I don't think Family Force five has done anything for
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like a decade now, but they are very fortunate that they went by nicknames
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and pretty much probably no one that knows a Family Force five's note, like
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knows their real names, because like, could you imagine like trying to like
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get a real job interview right now, and your job is like gonna do
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like a little background check or whatever, and they like they just type in
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your name or whatever, and you're like cleared by Google on that because they
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didn't go by their actual real names when they were in Family Force five,
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Because you would never any legitimate job. That's way better than the memory of
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Fatty. I would much prefer be going by my real name than Fatty.
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Right, that's a real dad argument, and I love it. That is
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what are you gonna have tatoos two or what? You know? My my
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biggest thing about Family Force five is that name sucks. I like, and
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that's about it. Yeah, I would just be super embarrassed to say that,
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Oh, yeah, what do you listen to? I'm listening to Family
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Force five? Right? Well, the the the thing is is, like
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when you shorten it, right f F five, there is always the confusion
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between like five Iron Frenzy and Family Force five. Point is there always that
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confusion. I've never made that my whole life, but confusion is there and
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until you listen to either, in which case you then realize, oh,
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no, they're exact same, They're they're the same. Yep, got it.
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But here here's the other thing. I'll mention it just and then we
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can move on. But there are few Christian bands that I would legitimately say
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likely started a genre of music. I've made this argument before that I think
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Pod has a legitimate claim to be made that they invent a new metal because
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they released music before Corn ever did so, I think I think Pod has
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a legitimate argument to be made there. And the other band, the other
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Christian band that has maybe a legitimate claim that they invented a genre? Is
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Family Force five with crunk core? Yeah, I don't know any other band
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before because they were before like was it three h three or whatever? And
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yeah, I mean they were. They were probably the first kind of crunk
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core band, and then all of a sudden crunk core like became popular for
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like a year or two in the sixt two thousands. Yep. Yeah,
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And and Family Force five can probably lay claim to the fact that they were
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at least if they didn't invent it, they at least were the probably most
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popular band at least in this child Yeah. Yeah, So Pod and Family
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Force five the same kind of pioneers. ToJ, you're rounding us out man
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for category of high energy opener. Okay, sounds good. Well, oh
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god, I just I I just have to clarify the the positions and statements
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made by individuals on this show are not indicative of church teams now as a
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whole. We'll see, man, we'll see. I'm so curious to see
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where this is going to go. All right, all right, So I'm
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just gonna give a couple of disclaimers up top. There it is. It
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is so so TJ Fest will be a an embodied experience. It's going to
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be a comprehensive, artistic, yes experience. And and there is no logic,
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there's no argument that can either create or destroy TJ Fest. Tjfest simply
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is, and it is fullys. There may or may not be very similar
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to what do they call it for the Juggalos? Is it just juggalo faster?
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Yeah, I mean that's all I can picture. Hey, gather the
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music gathering. If you want to picture something that is adjacent to that,
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feel free. We'll see as we go through the episode here. If it
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welcome now, I cannot wait to get my milk jugs of PCP. All
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right. So one thing that that Kylon has said a number of times is
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that I I take exception or that I break things particulately. I try to
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do that as often as possible now because I just feel like I need to
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live up to that expectation. So this is no exception. Picture if you
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will, a field of corn. It's not it's not cornerstone, but it's
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cornerstone adjacent. All right? Are we are we all tracking sound? That's
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TJ fast of course, it's c adjacent exactly, you got it. So
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it's called audio feed close close, very close, their their other sensory experiences.
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Otherwise I would have taken the name audio feed. But there's there's some
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some existential spiritual components as well, so we'll get to that. You round
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the bend around a row of corn, and what do you see playing the
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main stage as high energy band number one? It's as Cities Burn. But
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wait, but wait, wait, but wait, they are not just playing.
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They are playing Come Now Sleep in its entirety, with guest vocals from
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none other than Toby and Devin from Emery on Contact Clouds and Timothy. Only
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those three tracks. Then they do a two part encore. First half is
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featuring Simon g and Christian Linskog of Blindside. They all play some tracks from
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the Great Depression and the Black Rose and then the back half and then Bloodsucker
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is Cheating Him and TJ. Then they follow it up with eighty four Sheep
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Dog, Pirate Blues Kpo Films, that and so Long Forgotten vocals. This
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is a losing everybody right is your knows no rules? Band is like ten
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bands is every band? Deal with it, deal with it. This is
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my fast is t J fest and not making fast Christian just for this feature
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on the and then you told him you can go back home, go back
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back to Sweden. Job, buddy. Yeah, all we need is opening
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band. It sounds like that's all that t J Fest is able to afford
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to. It's just the band. Well, the experience we provided t J
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Fest goes beyond simple currency, Mason. So it's hard to explain, but
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its spiritual crypto, very spiritual cryptocurrency. There is a kind of wow.
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If this is your opening band, I can't wait to see your headliners are
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I'm already so mad at you for this. I love you, buddy.
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This is wild and wait, I want to clear something up? Did we
27:11
So once someone picks a band, is it like it's off for everyone else?
27:15
It's off for TJ clearly? Okay, So we're all but our festivals
27:21
on the same day. So if we book a band not available to play
27:23
TJ Fest or something, so you see you're not able to or emery or
27:30
plan slide. All featurings are totally still okay. They can still make it
27:37
between the those bands haven't played, you've had some feature guest vocals, Okay,
27:41
cool, My festival is right across the road. So nice but good
27:45
because I know Blindside's going to that one. I wish. I imagine TJ
27:51
Fest is happening on December twenty fifth in a cornfield in Illinois. Sure I
27:59
was picturing summer, but hey maybe well I know you were on December twenty
28:03
fifth. Okay, okay, just right out back a winter A winter festival,
28:10
outdoor festival actually sounds kind of fun. Yeah, well we can tell
28:15
who the South Dakota is. Yeah, that's true. Do it on a
28:18
lake that's be cool, frozen lake, guys? Can I also, I
28:22
want to potentially throw another wrench into this, but I don't think anyone's going
28:27
to pick these bands. I also made another list of the potentially worst festival
28:37
of all time, So can I before you move on around to can I
28:44
throw out my number one high energy opener for that for the worst festival?
28:51
Yeah, for the worst That Chris Rice. I don't even know who that
28:59
is. Yep, cartoons, the cartoon song and and pedophilia and allegations.
29:07
Yeah, yes, this is Wait, you don't know about this? Why?
29:15
Yeah I don't. I don't think I know the name Chris Rice at
29:18
all. The cartoon cartoons. Oh, I didn't realize that that was Chris
29:27
Rice. That's that guy. So he would be my opener for the worst
29:33
Christian music festival of all time. And we'll we'll see where that ends up
29:38
by the end of it. Why is that not your edgy act? Oh
29:45
you'll see, you'll see. Oh No, all right, good news is
29:51
it's time for t J Fest again. All right, this category is the
30:00
edgy band, not to be confused with the edging band. Not. I'm
30:11
not even gonna touch that. No, I hope you keep your hands yourself,
30:15
sir, Oh I will so so I'm I'm I'm going ahead and giving
30:23
my full spiel here about my my edgy band choice. Here your thing?
30:30
All right, here we go, y'all are gonna just be twice as mad,
30:36
I think, because again, wow, picture of yourself. You've just
30:45
seen a high energy set for mass cities, burn and friends that opened up
30:51
with contact lo and behold, what do you see on the next stage over
30:55
for the edgy band. It's me without you, good damn. But before
31:03
me without you can take the stage. The production crew realizes that Aaron is
31:07
stuck in a dumpster behind the festival grounds, gathering half eaten pizza crusts and
31:11
sorting the compost, trash and recycling because nobody else did it, and so
31:14
it's gonna be a while before they can play, so while we wait.
31:17
Fortunately, all the original members of Mute Math are in the crowd. They
31:19
hop up. They play their entire entire self titled album while the band coaxes
31:26
Aaron out of the dumpster and gets him in the two of us shower.
31:29
Don't worry, it's all solar powered. They finally get everybody on stage from
31:33
Me without You, Aaron's all cleaned up and you know, mostly coherent.
31:37
They play primarily from Brothers Sister and Pale Horses and Untitled, but also all
31:41
your favorite bangers from the other records, with occasional support from the Psalters and
31:48
guest vocals here and there, Sprinkle Kid, you know you're just pickings.
31:56
There for the encore surprise, Air in his best Buds with Michael Shepherd of
32:00
Love, Love Drugs, so they play a few Love drug songs too,
32:04
and then they end the whole thing with torches together. We all hug.
32:08
Wow, Haley didn't make an appearance. I know well her, she's a
32:14
little bit on tour or what she was a little busy fuck you. Yeah
32:21
right, okay, this is how I feel TJ. Practically, I want
32:24
to know how long is this festival for these four bands that are builled?
32:29
Fifteen days thirty six hours? Time is a construct, buddy. I don't
32:36
know what to tell you, okay, but yeah, sure it's a couple
32:38
of weeks. The is flowing through his vein. Yeah, Colin's got those
32:45
gallon jugs, all right, So you picked me without you? Great?
32:52
Yeah? Live, Yeah, we do. We have to actually play by
32:54
these rules because it feels kind of arbitrary and silly to be like, we
32:58
all like me without you want them on our festival, but we can't.
33:00
We can't all get them, Like why why because you picked them first?
33:06
Because why are we using these weird rules? It seems so silly. It's
33:10
called sports. Yeah, I've never heard of those. I kind of like
33:15
you. You sound like a libertarian. I'm I'm a weirdo. He's something.
33:22
Oh great, great, well without you, Thanks for your live.
33:25
Edgi ban is an argument to be made about why they fit the category of
33:30
edgy. Yeah, have you met Aaron? The guy lives on the edge.
33:37
He is saving the world as edgy. Yeah, it is twenty twenty
33:40
four calling, Yes, I think I only studying in Idaho now pretty edgy.
33:46
It takes a lot of work. I don't think i'd consider myself an
33:50
edgy, and I'm out there saving the world, so I don't know nice
33:54
guys after after this, I'm just fully leaning into my terrible festival because you
34:00
know it's going to have the picks that I haven't wait. All right,
34:05
so you did you already have acidies, burn and me without you on the
34:09
board for yourself or what on the board? Did you wait? Who you
34:17
ask? Sorry? Or Kylin? Did you? Did you have that?
34:22
Like? Were you ready to pick them? Was that why? Yeah?
34:23
Yeah, yeah, they were totally I I had them planned. I had
34:30
this all planned out, and then TJ Fest, well, look, don't
34:35
pick. Why did you pick the wedding as your first pick? Well,
34:37
Josh had the wedding or sorry not the wedding? Listeners are gonna be real
34:44
weird without me, without you to follow up. I didn't know these rules
34:49
were in play whenever I picked my list. I wasn't trying to ruin yose
34:52
lives, I understand. I wasn't aware it worked like that. But now
34:55
that you are, I feel like you're enjoying it more. Yeah, you
34:59
can tell you no comment. I'm still I'm still confident in my all right,
35:04
all right, all right, he's I am next. All Right,
35:08
my pick for the edgy band, bringing them out of retirement, bringing them
35:15
out of prison as I lay dying, that was what I was gonna pick.
35:22
Damn it. This is part of my worst festival. I knew it.
35:28
They were my Edgie band for the worst Festival. As soon as you
35:30
said that, I was like, oh, as I lay dying, he's
35:32
not gonna be it. But it's in my festival. So and it's not
35:37
only gonna be As I Lay dying, but also it's gonna be thirty five
35:38
other bands. No, just kidding it is it's also going to be my
35:43
gutil of a sudden, I just forgot the name of the band. What
35:45
was his terminator, Arnold Schwartzenegger as death Machine. So they're gonna do They're
35:52
gonna do half a set as as I Lay dying in half a set as
35:55
Austrian death Machine, because that's edgy, for sure. It's something for sure.
36:04
It is a whole lot of brutal, it's a whole lot of double
36:08
yeah, and I have. I have no arguments against this. They were
36:13
going to be my pick for this category, so fortunately I have a backup.
36:15
But it's a damn good pick. Thank you. I'm I'm I'm happy
36:20
for you. Yeah, I appreciate it. I thank you. Any other
36:23
arguments other than the fact that I am picking an attempted murderer, No,
36:30
except that they were going to be my edgy band for the worst Christian music
36:36
festival time. It's just funny because I know how many people actually want to
36:40
see as La Dying play with Tim or Timlin Besus again in that original form
36:46
once again, where he's all lighted up. To me, it's just hilarious
36:51
that they just don't care they tried killing his wife, right, right,
36:54
That's so weird. There's so much I could totally understand. Oh yeah,
37:00
let's just ignore that, right for the music, Yill. Yeah, I'm
37:06
actually kind of shocked that there hasn't been like a Netflix documentary about that whole
37:09
story. Yeah. I mean, there's been like way less interesting stories that
37:14
have turned into true crime Netflix documentaries, And the fact that there hasn't been
37:19
that for a guy who was in a very famous metal band, it sort
37:23
of blows my mind. Guys, brain trust right here, Let's make that
37:29
documentary. I have no skills making documentary. Don't worry about it. Don't
37:32
worry about it. You'll get an executive credit all you need. I'll do
37:38
research. I can do that, perferfect. All right? Any other any
37:43
arguments against Collen's pick other than the the many convicted felons that will be able
37:49
to show up with you know that are friends with him? Right? No?
37:52
Is there going to be enough room to see them in the audience because
37:55
everyone's gonna be like doing bench presses right while it's happening. That's my only
38:00
concern. Actually, during Austrian Death Machine shows, they used to have push
38:05
up contests on say no no, I just but I also did know that,
38:15
you know what I mean? Like, I didn't know it as fact,
38:20
but I just assumed as my truth. Did you guys know that that
38:25
that Austrian Death Machine also came out with the new album this year this year
38:30
Yes, with Tim Yes, I don't know is involved, but it came
38:35
out the end of February. It's called Quad Brutal. That's real. Claims
38:44
he is still the lead singer of Austrian Death machines, So can we give
38:49
listeners a brief taste records. I can't believe signed them. They put like
38:58
an interface at stop in a microphone inside a cake and they gave it.
39:01
I believe this bid is still going in twenty twenty four. They're still committing
39:07
to it. All right. Here's no Pain, no Gain, No pain,
39:13
no gain. No. It's a full album. Oh my god,
39:22
ten songs. It's somehow better than As I May Die. Yeah, it's
39:39
better than I want it to be. I know that there aren't too many
39:50
metal shows that you can go to these days that like the drug of choice
39:53
by the crowd is steroids. Steroids, intervenious steroids. All right, kyl,
40:01
let's let's hear about Wait. I thought I was third. Oh yeah,
40:07
I was thinking. I'm like, I'm pretty sure I'm like in the
40:09
middle of all of them. Wrong, all right, so I might be
40:13
a little drunk. Al right. Now, for my for my edgy band,
40:15
I was going to pick As I Lay Dying, But fortunately I feel
40:19
like I have a fairly decent backup, and this is a band that sort
40:23
of is it clearly is not as edgy as a band that has an attempted
40:28
murderer in the band, but for some people, if you're liberal enough,
40:30
probably is just as bad. And this band is Project eighty six. I
40:39
feel so. So here here's the here's the reason why I think of them
40:44
as an edgy band. So first off, there's probably a lot of people
40:46
that like think Andrew Schwab from Project eighty six is sort of like this like
40:51
anti VAXX person or whatever, which probably for a lot of liberals is just
40:53
as bad as being an attempted murderer. And and if you get like four
41:00
and Meats, they probably also think of him as like an attempted murderer as
41:02
well. And I say this with dear love to Andrew Schwab. He has
41:06
been more than gracious on the BlackSheep podcast. He's been great to us.
41:10
And also there clearly are people in the industry that aren't big fans of him,
41:15
and I don't know what he thinks about those things, but he clearly
41:17
is an edgy band to a lot of people, or to at least a
41:21
good segment of people in the Christian music industry. So yeah, that's gonna
41:24
be my edgie band. And also I think like following the Undertaking and you
41:30
may have already start. You're probably starting to see a theme form. This
41:32
seems like they're great. They're a great band. I mean yeah, it's
41:37
literally it's okay. So, yes, you got the twenty twenty three furnace
41:43
vest right here, Joe Bread's next, same day everything. But yeah,
41:47
Project eighty six is my live Edgy act. Interesting. I saw how edgy
41:53
they actually are. Okay, this was my argument because I also had Project
41:59
eighty six from Edgy band, and if I have like if you have to
42:01
make it edgy, I was picking original lineup with Randy, Steve and Alex
42:07
and you have the edginess. Is that like there's still beef between Andrew and
42:10
the other guys, So they're like the whole time on stage everyone's yeah,
42:16
so that was gonna be in. But yeah, I want original lineup project
42:22
at my at my fest, I thought you were only picking them as your
42:25
edgy band because you busted your head on the edge of a stage right after
42:30
they played. Nope, just the Anti Vaxxer, which which they were in
42:40
the running for my worst Christian music festival of all time. No, they
42:46
didn't make it. They didn't make you. How dare you so my that's
42:52
my that's my edgy act. I don't know if there's really too many arguments
42:55
other than the fact that it's just not not as I like, right,
43:01
it isn't that that's for sure. Otherwise seems like a solid, solid choice.
43:06
Obviously two of five of us at least felt that way. That's interesting.
43:12
I wouldn't have even thought about it. That's a expose. It's a
43:15
good call. It's edgy for all the dads I'm bringing to my festival,
43:17
you know. Yeah, here's the thing, Josh, I'm totally leaning into
43:22
the dad festival. Fest is on well speak, which I think we should
43:27
have to name our festival at the end when we go back through and tell
43:30
everyone what we picked, just stream them. Okay, So for me,
43:36
my edgy band, I guess yeah, if we're going with dad Fest impending
43:45
doom, there you go. Okay, what it's sort of like Maggot Cord,
43:52
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. They they they almost
43:57
made the the worst Christian music festival, but not quite. But the fact
44:06
that they called their genre gore Ship, which is a portmanteau of gore and
44:13
worship. It's just like, I mean, it's what's a little trick are
44:16
you doing? Like? That was also like two thousand and eight when they
44:21
said that, right, yeah, yeah, it sounds like I was trying
44:24
to be like a worshipman. Yes, yeah, yeah exactly. If bar
44:30
and Ghosts had a baby, it would be yeah, worship. Yeah.
44:34
So I don't know if there's any arguments against Impending Doom as an edgy band.
44:38
I guess. I guess Brooke Reeves's politics aside. I don't know if
44:45
they're really that edgy personally, No they're not. But I mean other than
44:49
that, he listen weird space, right, Like I get what you mean,
44:52
Like like you live in this weird space. There's not a lot of
44:55
like doom core or grindcore christian An. Okay, Colin put yourself in these
45:02
shoes. Okay, you're wearing new Balances, you just drop your kid off,
45:08
You're you're enjoying the pleasant sounds of say your prayers by the wedding,
45:15
and then you walk over and and see Listener banging on a washing machine,
45:23
and then you hear Impending Doom and you're like, what the fuck is this?
45:28
Is that? The washer? Still? Yeah? Right, somebody put
45:32
their new Balance shoes in the washer. Too many shoes in the washer.
45:37
Yeah, yeah, you too many shoes in the washer is how I would
45:42
describe impending doom. That sounds like the name of your festival. I think,
45:45
so too many shoes in the washer, I mean impending doom. I
45:55
mean they fit, they fit what with the theme that you're trying to do
46:00
so right, right, Yeah, I get it, I get it.
46:04
Cool, all right, I get it. I get it. And I
46:07
would think at least, like politically that they're edgy enough where like enough people
46:10
probably are like a little pissed off with them, were good or for bad,
46:15
there are enough people pissed off with them, and I'm like, all
46:16
right, they like at least fit the category of edgie. I do think,
46:21
like as I laid down and Project eighty six might like have pissed off
46:24
more people than that. But but I do think, yeah, they've pissed
46:29
off enough people to be a little bit considered edgy. Right, Well,
46:34
they would piss off my dad. So that's sort of my criteria for this.
46:42
All right, Josh, we know you like pivot tables. Have you
46:45
had time enough to pivot pivoting? I've been to a new edgy binge.
46:49
Yeah, going back and forth and the whole thing is so yeah, I
46:52
didn't want to do this, but I mean this might be someone's later pick,
46:57
but I I had to pivot myself, thus someone else might have to
47:00
pivot. So once again, I'm going with bands that I never saw that
47:05
I would like to see for edgy, I'm just gonna pick the one and
47:09
only the chariot. Motherfucker I had. I had to pivot it kind of
47:16
whole list is gone. Your whole my whole list is fucked. I'm just
47:22
going into It's just fucking skills. So I yeah, that's what I had
47:31
to do. So that's why, ah it changes at my festival dynamics a
47:37
little bit, but it's I mean, look, I don't think any dads
47:40
are sticking around for they're any guy that's willing to stick his head in a
47:45
kick drum while it's just being wailed on, that's a pretty edgy show,
47:52
that is. Yeah, like his hearing is is just decimated. Or like
47:57
to or like to to spit up a loogie as high as you can and
48:00
then to catch it in your hand and then wipe it on your face and
48:07
then become a therapist ten years later that's right, A very soft spoken a
48:12
therapist. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean he is kind of a
48:21
terrorist out there. He's a terrorist for the woke. Okay, that's right,
48:24
that's right, spreading that woke mind virus. That's right. Oh my
48:31
god, this is off the rails and the best way. I love it.
48:36
All right, real quick before we move on, are you guys going
48:38
to furnace vests? Yere ah? We want to please do because I think
48:43
I think the five of us would have a absolutely well. So we we
48:47
talked to Cody from the wedding who also has bad luck Burger Club, and
48:53
we want to we want to start an offshoot festival in the parking lot,
48:57
a furnace fest call right outside called Burgers and Bluegrass, where they just do
49:04
bluegrass covers of the songs that the bands are. It's essentially dad Fast Part
49:09
two, right, We're talking about like just another dad Fast. I am
49:15
here for it. I feel it could be a pretty good time. We'll
49:20
try to make you go. Hell yeah, man, if you bring your
49:24
mandolin, we'll be there all right, killer, I think I can fit
49:29
her down the plane. I'll carry on all right? Where are we at
49:32
here? Back to me again. It is back to that category, which
49:37
is best live act, all right, which also now that we're going back
49:43
to you, like the fact that you picked the Chariot now, like when
49:46
you pick the Chariot and you could have picked them for your best live act,
49:51
like but you can think you have back to back picks there, like
49:53
total mistake. I'll just say that, like, I don't know what you
49:58
were thinking. Or I mean Donald though of the of like your live show
50:04
that's gonna be as edgy as it gets, but it flows pretty well if
50:08
your next pick for best live act is Norma Jean, because then Skaggan can
50:15
come out and sing with Corey and do some old school Norman Jean stuff.
50:22
And let me tell you, Norman Jean, these days it's great live,
50:25
you know what I mean? Pretty great, pretty great. I think you're
50:29
I think that you're onto something there. But I think what makes Norman Jean
50:32
the best in terms of a live band is when Mason stage dives and sixty
50:39
five million people see it. When yeah, when he's like good luck,
50:47
dang okay. But was also why yeah, I got to like the Chariot
50:53
was gonna be my headliner because then they could bring out Dan Smith to do
51:00
David de la has yep. I also had two other people would have the
51:07
Chariot on their list for this. Yeah, I definitely wanted which we all
51:12
had a whole thing playing, had a whole thing together. Yeah, So
51:15
I'm sorry I had to pivot. I had to pivot myself. You know,
51:19
no one's I have to pivot so much. Yeah, you're you're you're
51:24
a walking pivot. Yeah, we called that. We called it a moving
51:29
screen in basketball, all right, Josh, I mean awesome pick anyone got
51:34
an argument against him before we moved? No, no, it's so good.
51:37
Not bad for back to back. Yeah, yeah, awesome. I
51:43
get they faced each other and normal. Gene's also got the deeper catalog,
51:46
so they can play a little bit longer than the Chariot. So give Skagan
51:52
a little bit of a break after his big fest, after his after his
51:54
set, he can sit down for a little bit and drink a couple of
51:59
waters and then come out. So, yeah, make hockey couple of loogies.
52:02
Okay, is it me now? Best live act? It is for
52:07
best? Okay, Well, I'm gonna pivot in a real I don't know,
52:15
I can't do Acidis Burn, But you know what, let's put Hawkboy
52:20
up there. Yeah, yeah, there you go. You can't do Burn,
52:25
Let's do Hawkboy whatever. It's the same band. That's a great call.
52:31
I think those are the best songs that Cody Bunnette has a thousand and
52:37
they've every time I see Aaron Lunsford or Cody Bunnette, I ask, what
52:45
are the chances you bring back hawk Boy? Yeah? I mean we we
52:50
did a whole so we did last year the beginning of the year, we
52:55
did a whole Acids Burn Deep Dive and we dedicate did a full episode just
53:00
to hawk Boy. And it may be one of our least listen to episodes,
53:07
but it's it's one of my favorites. Yeah, because Hawkboy's fucking rad.
53:12
Dude. Yeah, they're so. If I can't have ACB I'll take
53:15
some Hawkboy. What's your favorite Hawkboys song? Why is it Damnesia? Oh?
53:23
Why is it Scoundrel? It's good, it's good, but it ain't
53:29
I don't know. Well, we could argue this all night, folly,
53:34
Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of love. They have to
53:37
pick a different one. Now you have to well, so here's my argument
53:43
against Hawkboy. As much as I love Hockeyboy, he's not jumping on the
53:46
train. He's you're literally pushing against it. I need I need an argument
53:51
against. So here's the deal. So Josh just picked Norma Jean, which
53:55
has nine albums that they can play from. Hawk Boy has nine songs right
54:05
as the band before the headline they precedent though. They all irate blues,
54:14
so they really can't just pull from the ACB catalog, right, So theyroll
54:17
from the ac right, Okay, whatever, But like they they have like
54:22
significantly less of a catalog to actually like pull from, to actually play before
54:27
a headlining band that could become you know, when we're like, I'm sure
54:30
when we mentioned headlining bands here, we're gonna think of like very big bands.
54:34
And to think that they're gonna be right before that headlining band for whoever
54:37
you end up picking, is blowing my mind that it's gonna be hot.
54:42
Is it just the two guys too? They don't have any ox musicians.
54:44
No, it's just Cody, Aaron and Cody. Okay, Hey, you
54:49
know what where we got washing machines on stage? We're just we're we're throwing
54:54
it all to the wind Man. It's a good pivot. It's a good
54:59
thing. Thank you. You're creating a whole lineup with like four people that
55:02
play the entire show. That's great. I'm the economy of your festival.
55:10
Nobody goes to it. But like the profit margins are massive because you don't
55:15
have to pay anybody anything, right, and half of them have their own
55:19
food trucks. But guys, imagine a Hawkboy set with Dan Smith playing washing
55:27
Machine? The damn would you? Would you? Would you not? Dance?
55:31
Smith even aware that Hawkboy is a band that has existed in who knows?
55:38
Does Dan Smith know anything that's going on in music? Now? It
55:44
doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. He he goes out and says, you
55:50
know, you're a house on fire, and then just fucking bangs on the
55:53
washing machine in a field the rest of the night, and everyone's excited.
56:00
True, fair, fair, all right. So that's my argument against talk
56:04
Boy. All right, is your turn, Mason for the best live act?
56:08
Well, since I can't pick the Chariot, great pick, but I
56:12
was at your original I would have picked them. But I do think my
56:15
pick is going to be a band that clearly is not nearly as like entertaining
56:20
to watch as a live act, but throws a hell of a show,
56:25
and I do think it will also get some ass in the seats or passes
56:30
standing. My favorite thing about my about your best live act that you haven't
56:35
even said yet, is that you already said it's not the best live act.
56:39
It's not the Chariot. I mean it's it's not the Chariot. Pick
56:43
the Chariots, the second, the second best life. I gave them an
56:49
offer they couldn't refuse. And so this act is a band that Cullen literally
56:57
last time we saw them was like that guy screams like he's a literal demon.
57:02
So I'm gonna pick Zo as my beast live act. And even though
57:08
those guys are probably all in what their forties at this point, maybe,
57:12
I mean maybe some of them are even pushing late forties at this point,
57:15
those guys can still throw fucking down. They are absolutely incredible. Are they
57:24
bringing the electronic drum kit for it or the regular drums? Regular drum?
57:29
Okay, okay, yeah, regular, yep, we're getting it. What
57:31
is it, Jeff Jeff that drums? Yeah, gonna be draft Jeff doing
57:36
his thing and Yeah, Zayo best live act. Yeah, that's a good
57:40
call. I don't have any can ar argument. It's solid only argument I
57:45
have it it's it's a pretty poor argument. There's not a ton of theatrics,
57:52
right, I mean, I think we understand that, and I think
57:54
that's my only argument against it, is that there's just not a ton of
57:58
theatrics. But the music is so like it like pierces into your brain,
58:04
like gets it gets into your like the absolute depths of your your brain stem.
58:12
It's that scary in my opinion, and I love it. Yeah,
58:15
the band themselves are not the theatrics, and I get that, but it's
58:20
what it does to their fans, especially those that are willing to get in
58:24
the pit, that those are the theatrics. If you're the person like on
58:29
the edge of the pit just watching what's going on in the pit, that
58:31
is that's an entertaining hour, just in and of itself. Right. I
58:37
like it all, right, Mason, I think it's a decent pic.
58:43
I'm next, and I'm struggling to pick which one I want. I have
58:46
two choices here. Remember my festival is used to be a Christian band or
58:53
really doesn't sound like a Christian band anymore kind of thing. I don't know
58:58
which one to pick. I'm gonna go with mute Math. I know TJ
59:05
wasn't an official set, so true before your set, they're like, we
59:10
can go up and play show. Yea good deal. The Math obviously has
59:15
tons of exciting eccentric eccentricities that go on at their shows. But I'm gonna
59:21
I'm gonna pick the Darren King era. Yeah if you didn't, yeah,
59:27
exactly exactly, you know, from each musician themselves doing some wild stuff to
59:32
riding around on a blow up mattress to the light show kind of things that
59:37
they're doing. I think in terms of a live act, they provide something
59:40
for everybody, and they have quite a bit of fun stuff going on.
59:45
So not quite headliner, they're just not. They don't they don't draw those
59:49
kind of numbers, and that's perfectly fine. They fit in well as a
59:53
wonderful little sampler right before the headliner. Totally agree. I mean, I'm
1:00:01
only going to compliment that. I think you could also Paul could also probably
1:00:05
pull Tyler Joseph from twenty one Pilots for like a guest appearance on one or
1:00:08
two songs too, which would only increase your credibility. So very very true.
1:00:13
Yeah, it's very very true. Be a great feature, it would
1:00:15
be well, thank you. I appreciate it. I'm glad that. Can
1:00:20
you tell me? Can you tell us afterwards who your other pick was?
1:00:22
I will tell you afterwards. My other PA I want to know next is
1:00:25
TJ got it? So again, Tjfest operates by its own rules, and
1:00:34
those rules are zany, but there is a little bit of a precedent for
1:00:37
a band that is very well known spinning off into another band. We've been
1:00:44
talking about the great Cody Bunnett as Citi's burn Hawk Boy. They also sort
1:00:52
of showcased My Only Passenger, which is a tentative upcoming project. So there's
1:00:58
precedent for what I'm about to say here. That's my point, all right.
1:01:02
The best live act at TJ Fest is Reliant Foot, which is exactly
1:01:07
what you think it is. It's a switch foot and reliant case. No,
1:01:10
you can't you, that's right, that's right. It's happening in which
1:01:15
they're all on stage together playing a set that is two lefts interwoven with the
1:01:20
beautiful let Down, with guest vocal support from both Kevin and Matt Shelton from
1:01:24
the wedding and Aaron Gillespie in a big, a big dumb hipster hat.
1:01:31
He's wearing a big dumb he's wearing. He writes country songs now, so
1:01:36
he's wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah, exactly, I'm not yet, no
1:01:42
one yet. Later he's part of the after party, he's at mom Fest.
1:01:49
He would be the rival. TJ. You break the rules in ways
1:01:55
that infuriate. Yeah, this is this is quite infuriating. I'm like,
1:02:00
I'm really convinced TJ is just playing a different game. No chaotic neutral energy.
1:02:07
When I do, it's like the only It's like if you're like when
1:02:10
you're a kid, you have a coloring book in front of you, and
1:02:13
you put the coloring book in front of the child, and the child says,
1:02:15
oh my gosh, I love SpongeBob because SpongeBob is on the page,
1:02:19
and then they color everything other than SpongeBob. Right, Oh my god.
1:02:23
I'm you describe TJ's energy as a podcast. It's right, the only way
1:02:31
you'll get me on, Mike. So I'm here to bring the chaotic neutral
1:02:36
energy, y'all. You're welcome I mean I have seen both those bands.
1:02:39
I wrote those bands tour together, so it's not much different than if they
1:02:43
played it together. I mean, I'll give it a little bit. Okay,
1:02:46
underline my argument for why they fit best live act. Both of those
1:02:51
vocalists are like the most incredible vocalists. They're both the most incredible songwriters in
1:02:55
their genre, So like, what do you got? Yeah? But also
1:03:00
just you man, that's fine, that's fine, right, here's my argument
1:03:04
against it. If I hear more than two John Foreman songs in a row,
1:03:10
I have suicidal tendencies. You won't because they're they're switching, man.
1:03:19
That's correct. Okay, So as long as I get a palate cleanser,
1:03:22
it's good. But there's just something about John Foreman's voice. If I hear
1:03:24
more than two songs in a row, I just get like this, like
1:03:29
ageful spirit. You just come over to Dad fast man or going you know
1:03:39
what? At this point, Skillett's playing the worst festival ever, so you
1:03:44
can just just just come hang out. Here's some skillet man. Man.
1:03:50
My argument against Reliant Foot as the headliner is I texted Matthew Hoops today and
1:03:55
you did it, So fuck you. No, they're not the headliner headliner
1:04:01
Best Live Acts. We're still in best Live Act. Yes, no,
1:04:06
I know, I know problem, TJ. Headline it. Who's it's gonna
1:04:14
be? Fucking like? Who's Amy W. Smith? Right? You too?
1:04:19
Plus Michael W. Smith plus Chris Tomlins there like. I love that
1:04:25
y'all are mad at me for creating an entirely hypothetical festival. Yes, it's
1:04:30
somehow upset you are welcome to the thing, man, good perspective, teacher,
1:04:36
Please be more upset about this entirely made up thing that we're doing.
1:04:41
I am furious. Oh my god. Well listen, we could either get
1:04:45
mad about this or about the situation in Palestine, and so I am mad
1:04:51
about that situation right right right to be happy about this right now, Like
1:04:58
our aggression has to go somewhere where that's right and right now it's directed at
1:05:01
you, TJ. So yeah, or get an iron dome around you.
1:05:06
I've got space for it. You're welcome here. Come be mad worse than
1:05:10
Israel, TJ. That's a weird thing to say. T J. This
1:05:17
is why I love you, because you are willing to take this role.
1:05:23
Yep, I'm here for it. What I do also, t J.
1:05:26
I don't know you, but I love you because this is fun right right
1:05:30
back? Who's headlining this? This this chaotic fest? Wait? Do I
1:05:35
go twice? Yeah? Got seven minutes? Back around? Okay, well
1:05:42
to just he can do it in seven minutes. I'm sure to bring the
1:05:45
ball into the end zone to get the hat trick with the Frisbee disc into
1:05:50
the goal line place. The ticket seller. Headliner for TJ Fest is Soufi
1:05:57
Stevens, and uh yeah, we're going for chamber folk catharsis as we as
1:06:02
we wind down, with occasional support on Glockenspiel from Nflo, as well as
1:06:09
guest vocals from not only Johnny Griff and Larry Norman, but also fuck It,
1:06:15
Justin Burnon. He's here. And it's at this exact moment that Souf
1:06:20
decides to unveil to the world that he wrote and finished all forty eight other
1:06:25
state albums and he's playing them all in their entire going to that. He's
1:06:30
gay. Yeah, I love it. It's all all all are all invited,
1:06:38
t J. You know what. I love your festival. Thanks man.
1:06:42
I think it's our five thousand dollars. That's that's general, right,
1:06:51
t J. Fast is like if Coachella was for the people that like thought
1:06:57
Coachella was like with it is the festival for for Christian juggalos that you knew
1:07:08
it the whole time. It's the gathering fig called it from the beginning.
1:07:13
I love them all, right, Colin, what do you got? Who's
1:07:16
your headliner? My headliner? Remember my theme is once was a Christian band
1:07:24
or sort of like that. But of course I'm gonna go with under Oath.
1:07:27
They're just cussing up storms, they're getting tattoos all over their bodies,
1:07:34
they're dyeing their hair, and they're doing cocaine. I think that it's all
1:07:38
just terrible. It's terrible, and that's why they're the headliner. That's why
1:07:43
they're the headliner. But but they're only performing songs from Erase Me. That's
1:07:50
your that's at your fest. You know what's funny is when Erased Me came
1:07:55
out and I only had one tweet about it, and I said, what
1:08:00
I think about Erase Me is this joke? And then and then I just
1:08:05
posted this song I hate it Erase Me. Josh often has the joke that
1:08:15
it's the only album where the title tells you what you can do, like
1:08:24
how you can consume the album, what you should do with the record afterwards?
1:08:30
All right, got under oath? Okay, it's good. Are they?
1:08:34
Are they focusing on a specific album or something personally? Very partial to
1:08:41
disinbiguation? Mainly because I love Daniel Davison drubbing having Daniel as well for some
1:08:45
of those songs? Are you having Daniel there as well? For some of
1:08:49
those songs? They're gonna switch off when needed because it is a fantasy land
1:08:55
and or double drum kit him and going to town full time. That sounds
1:09:00
like a blest that actually would be pretty cool. Yeah, that's a that's
1:09:03
my headliner. Next is Masonic Temple. All right, Well, I was
1:09:11
gonna pick underroso great, great, pick Collen, uh fuck you? And
1:09:15
I'm gonna pick a band that I think, with all the other bands that
1:09:20
I have picked, fits well, fits well with the era, fits well
1:09:24
with my theme. And this band is a band that has not played for
1:09:29
years and then all of a sudden in twenty twenty one played their first show
1:09:32
in like fifteen years or something like that, and this band is beloved.
1:09:40
Oh, I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick Beloved as my headliner, ironically playing
1:09:45
before Zayo. But but yeah, I think like the Zao to Beloved back
1:09:49
to back, I think people are gonna be super happy about that. So
1:09:53
that's that's what I'm gonna do with my headliner. Do they not run into
1:09:56
the same issue you raised about Colin's Talkboy where they kind of just got the
1:10:00
one album though? Right? Yeah, but Beloved at least has like an
1:10:03
entire album, not just help yeah one, they're gonna they're gonna sings in
1:10:10
there too. It was gonna come Beloved already. Beloved has clearly played like
1:10:17
headlining kind of show, So I know what they can do it for them?
1:10:20
Yeah? Did they ever do that in their Yeah? I mean well
1:10:26
yeah, I don't. I don't know if they actually did did do that?
1:10:29
Yeah, they they did did do that. I don't think they did
1:10:31
do that? Did so? Did did do fist is the name of Mason's
1:10:35
Fest there? They did fast? So anyway, Beloved, I love that.
1:10:45
Okay, So all of my deep bench has been just fucking wiped out,
1:10:51
So I don't know, I mean, fuck it, Like you have
1:10:54
the second pick you should have had better. You you writer, I don't
1:11:00
know you, I don't know, And yeah, I don't know. They
1:11:08
can bring the whole sphere and just do a whole thing. I don't know.
1:11:13
It's almost can I whisper to you who you should pick? No?
1:11:15
No, no, yes, yeah, they they can do that. I
1:11:23
don't know. Stephen Curtis Chapman, Amy Grant, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift,
1:11:29
she's not a Christian, she had That's right, which is why you
1:11:35
two is gonna be my headliner? You know what I mean. I'm sticking
1:11:42
with it. Here we go with it, and they're great dad Fest.
1:11:45
They are the reasons all dad Fest is gonna fucking rock man. You know.
1:11:51
They are the reason that that the worship music sounds like worship music.
1:11:56
So that's right, that's right. With the cold Play doing zillary instruments,
1:12:00
there you go, that's it smarts, just playing some perfession a, right,
1:12:08
is it, Josh? Now, yep, it is me. It
1:12:12
is me. So my my festival pivoted a little bit, so it seems
1:12:15
a little wonky then the way I originally envisioned it. But the chariot really
1:12:19
threw a loop for that. It did. It had to. Yeah,
1:12:21
with Project We'll had a tie in with projects here because my ticket seller slash
1:12:27
headliner, I'm going to pick Star Flyer fifty nine they first time Jason Martin
1:12:32
coming out of retirement. Okay, okay, I could, Okay, I
1:12:36
see it, I see it. He's got albums to pull from, so
1:12:41
Charlie his sun is on drums, Stephen Dale is on base. I was
1:12:44
going to have him just stay on the stage from Project set to Starflyers,
1:12:48
but you know he will, he'll on stage. You know what he'll He'll
1:12:54
he'll have to come over quickly from Mason's festival to play Star to my best
1:12:59
the headline, Yeah yeah, tw on synth and he's gonna have to go
1:13:02
through traffic of all the people trying to go see you too. Yeah,
1:13:08
that's why Jason has a sixteen minute instrumental called Traffic Jam that he can wait
1:13:12
for Steven to get. So that is I actually originally created a whole festival
1:13:18
based on Jason Martin bands that would work, so, but I decided to
1:13:24
just keep Starflyer as my headliner. So I want to go to the festival
1:13:28
where Starflyer is the headliner. That makes sense to me. It would be
1:13:31
great. Yeah, they haven't played a show since like six or something.
1:13:34
Wait, you don't want to see the listener than impending doom and then YouTube?
1:13:41
Are you sure? I'd be okay with that as long as you two
1:13:45
is playing in that that big ball thing at right. No, that's what
1:13:47
I'm saying there. Yeah, they're they're gonna bring the whole dome, the
1:13:51
whole the putting it on wheels is what you're saying. Yeah for sure.
1:13:57
Okay, guys, we have to leave like super soon because we're how about
1:14:01
can you can you wait? No here, how about make make me the
1:14:05
host or somebody else a host unless you can, Josh and TJ, can
1:14:10
you stay on for a little bit longer we have yeah? Oh you guys
1:14:15
ship Okay, that's why you said the whole thing? Yeah, all right,
1:14:17
so longer do you need though? Nine minutes? Perfect? We're good.
1:14:23
We're good, you guys, we can finish? Yeah? What's that?
1:14:28
Who do you guys have on? Uh? We have to talk.
1:14:30
We have to talk to Chase Tremaine about Stephen Curtis Chapman. Okay, Oh
1:14:35
cool, that sounds important, love it great? All right? Well those
1:14:40
are our picks for our ideal music festival or show. Should we just quickly
1:14:45
review each one of our picks so people remember what we picked. Yo,
1:14:51
give us the name of your festival and and your bands. I didn't have
1:14:57
a great name. This is just Josh's fest just for me. You know.
1:15:00
I have the wedding, it's my high energy opener, my edgey band.
1:15:04
I went with the Chariot, best live act, went with Norma Jean
1:15:08
and my ticket seller headliner star Fire fifty nine. I would go to Josh's
1:15:13
Festa a few hundred dollars. It's real heavy in the middle, but then
1:15:16
it kind of I would go to it as well, as long as you
1:15:19
call it Joshua Tree, only to take out of Kylan's pocket, Right yeah,
1:15:26
Okay, Oh my god, I would love if I saw you two
1:15:31
was playing in my town, and then there was another show just across the
1:15:35
street called the Joshua Tree. I didn't have you, they don't have YouTube.
1:15:42
I would pay just as much money to go see that. All right,
1:15:50
let's hear let's hear your line. Okay, your and the name of
1:15:54
your fest, well, I wrote. When I wrote my note, I
1:15:58
wrote, Kyle Leans awesome Christian music Festival because I'm not super creative. Did
1:16:03
you write it with a cram? Yes? I did, Yes, I
1:16:08
did? Okay, I had listener? Well okay, now I can't remember
1:16:15
because everyone being Doom was your Edgy wasn't listener? Impending and YouTube boy and
1:16:26
and you too. That is that's a wild fest. I love that,
1:16:30
right, Like it's kind of fun, right, you know, you get
1:16:35
a little for the dads mm hmm, lit for the people that like only
1:16:42
know like music that's not even on Spotify, and then you have impending Doom,
1:16:48
and then I still haven't found what I'm looking for. Yeah, you
1:16:51
know what, that's a perfect night. That's a perfect fucking Friday night.
1:16:56
I have the perfect outfit for the festival. You know. Yeah, yeah,
1:17:00
what do you do that? That's a good question. All right,
1:17:02
Mason? Name and your bands? Well, I'm gonna go with my bands
1:17:06
first. So my bands are so my high energy band, The Undertaking,
1:17:11
my edgy band Project eighty six, my best live act Zo, and my
1:17:15
headliner is Beloved and so that's the Evansive right, there's there. Okay.
1:17:23
So it's all solid state bands. If you have not been able to tell,
1:17:26
they're all solid state bands and the name of my festival. Since so
1:17:30
furnace Fest twenty twenty four is the last furnace Fest. This festival is called
1:17:34
furnace Fest twenty twenty five. Oh that's perfect, that's perfect, that's smart.
1:17:42
All right. Mine is it's named Star Borage Voice Star not a Christian,
1:17:53
and that's literally the name of the fest. My high energy opener is
1:17:58
Family Force five. My edgy band is as a La Dying Slash Austrian death
1:18:03
Machine album As I Die Then It Goes. Best live act is Mute Math,
1:18:15
followed by the headliner of under Oath Those cussing young men all right,
1:18:21
TJ, Yes, rounding the band here TJ fest colon a metaphysical journey,
1:18:30
fact, a multisensory experience, Yes, a multi sensor experience, and the
1:18:35
bell of the ball because I got all the bands that you were in being
1:18:39
and I'm so sorry. My high energy band is as City's Burned with indulgent
1:18:44
features. The edgy band was Me Without You with indulgent features. Best live
1:18:48
act was Reliant Foot with indulgent features, and the headliner was Touf Young Stevens
1:18:54
with indulgence. We just let you keep Both Relacking and switch Foot at that
1:18:59
point we're argue it. I just pivoted to you too. I was like,
1:19:04
I can't have switch Foot all right, Well, I love that you
1:19:08
think that the fans of all of these bands have enough money to pay for
1:19:11
this festival, right, Kyland, I have a better headliner for you too.
1:19:17
Okay, it's Katie Perry, but she's only playing Katie Hudson songs.
1:19:27
Does she have ties though? Oh for sure. I mean she has to
1:19:31
Katie here. I was thinking would have been a better dude. That's it.
1:19:42
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1:19:55
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