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Saturday afternoon · Black Ibis Social Club

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  SPEAKER_00: Now, what's really interesting is my Texas cup for you guys.
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  What's really interesting is that with all the different media
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  options between here,
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  SPEAKER_00: X,
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  SPEAKER_00: live streams,
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  SPEAKER_00: everything,
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  SPEAKER_00: we have a huge community of
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  SPEAKER_00: YouTubers,
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  SPEAKER_00: podcasters,
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  SPEAKER_00: essay writers,
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  SPEAKER_00: people like us,
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  SPEAKER_00: people like John Carter,
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  SPEAKER_00: Dave Green,
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  SPEAKER_00: Astro,
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  SPEAKER_00: and all kinds of people.
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  And I think the coolest thing is to be able to build an
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  interconnected community
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  SPEAKER_00: where we discuss all types of things together and,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: work on ideas in a way,
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  SPEAKER_00: kind of create like a,
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  SPEAKER_00: a giant digital salon,
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  SPEAKER_00: which is for the most part going on in like the overall sphere.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, there was one thing I kind of wanted to think about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I was, I was thinking about while working out this morning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  SPEAKER_00: every,
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  SPEAKER_00: every time I log in the last week on,
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  SPEAKER_00: on X and even here,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's just a lot of,
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  SPEAKER_00: just a lot of negativity and a lot of darkness.
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  SPEAKER_00: And,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: you have just,
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  SPEAKER_00: I get videos after videos of racial violence,
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  SPEAKER_00: specifically black on white violence,
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  SPEAKER_00: all pertaining to the Shiloh thing we talked about in the last episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I just, it just makes me feel disgusting.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, it makes me feel, you know, I feel angry.
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  It makes me feel resentful and just exceptionally negative to
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  the point where like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And, um,
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  SPEAKER_00: Right away,
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  SPEAKER_00: in the back of my mind,
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  SPEAKER_00: the accusation comes from,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say,
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  SPEAKER_00: certain people on our side,
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  SPEAKER_00: on the right,
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  SPEAKER_00: that says,
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  SPEAKER_00: oh,
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  SPEAKER_00: here you are,
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  SPEAKER_00: Mr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Christcock.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're going to lecture us about, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: You're going to lecture us about turning the other cheek and apologizing,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I have no desire to do that,
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  and that's not at all my intention because I have those kind of
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  things in the back
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  SPEAKER_00: of my mind too,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you turn the other cheek?
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  SPEAKER_00: But I think it's important to realize that, like, yes—
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  SPEAKER_00: You can be angry about certain things.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can be angry about political issues.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can be angry about evil actions on innocent people.
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  But at the same time,
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  it's very important for us to avoid becoming consumed with resentment.
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  SPEAKER_00: There needs to be a distinction between a just, righteous anger and
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  allowing that resentment to destroy you to eat you from the
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  inside because it's
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  it's not right it's not how things work so you can be angry
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  about politics can be
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  angry about things in the world you can be angry about the
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  behaviors of individuals
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  against innocent you can be angry about government entities and
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  government you know
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  SPEAKER_00: sponsored wars you know
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  however you feel about that,
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  whether it's the war in Ukraine or Palestine-Israel.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you can be angry,
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  SPEAKER_00: righteously so,
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  and you can at the same time still avoid slipping into
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  negativity and resentment.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can...
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  come up with solutions and administer justice and the justice
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  can be swift it can
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  be violent it can be absolutely necessary without resenting
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  without resulting in
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  like hatred and resentment on in your own soul right so that's
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  something i've been
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  thinking a lot about and i don't really have the answers i
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  don't really have much
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  SPEAKER_00: of anything you know really it's something i've been
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  SPEAKER_00: pulling up books and reading a lot in the last 48 to 72 hours,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I'm trying to see how I can not ignore the news.
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  SPEAKER_00: My fear,
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  SPEAKER_00: and like I said,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to get slapped around by the pagan types,
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  SPEAKER_00: is that you can easily slip into
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  SPEAKER_00: you know, doing this kind of thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm just going to ignore it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to be,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: a surfer,
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  SPEAKER_00: bro,
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  SPEAKER_00: Christian,
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  SPEAKER_00: a surfer,
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  SPEAKER_00: bro guy,
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  SPEAKER_00: and just not be angry about anything.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm just like, Oh man, you know, I pray for my enemies.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if I like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't know if I feel like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like there is absolute reason to be angry at people.
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  There's absolute reason to be angry and disgusted at the way
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  the world is today.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  But I think that the risk is allowing that anger to consume us
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  to where every day
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  SPEAKER_00: we wake up in the morning,
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  SPEAKER_00: we open our,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  get our phones and we're scrolling through X and it's just like
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  negative anxiety.
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  fucked up video after video after video after video and you
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  know you're eating your
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  breakfast and you're just just furious about the world and
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  you're getting in your
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  car and just you know and i mean i say this from experience
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  right so i don't know
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  maybe you guys if you listen to this or whatever you can hop on
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  the comments later
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  SPEAKER_00: and and you know there you know there it is right
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  SPEAKER_00: it is right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is huge.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we need to be able to acknowledge that we can't,
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  SPEAKER_00: we can't just like be like,
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  SPEAKER_00: no,
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  SPEAKER_00: nothing's going on.
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  SPEAKER_00: Nothing's happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, there is no, there's, there's no like legitimate concern.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is what,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you watch the news,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: mainstream news,
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  SPEAKER_00: mainstream stuff,
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  SPEAKER_00: that's what they tell us to do.
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  SPEAKER_00: It just, it's not happening.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not happening or it's happening, but it's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um,
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  But at the same time,
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  we cannot be consumed by that because then we become goblins.
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  SPEAKER_00: We become trolls dwelling in anger.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can feel it.
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  I can feel it in myself where I get caught up in these cycles
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  of just resentment and hatred.
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  SPEAKER_00: There was a video, like a quick little, I think, YouTube video.
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  SPEAKER_00: by Father Josiah Tremens.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's an Orthodox priest out of Riverside, California.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's pretty big on the Orthodox sphere.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was maybe a day or two,
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  and he talks about a Romanian monk that was persecuted by the
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  communists in the 60s.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was arrested, thrown in a horrendous prison.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when they were arresting him, he...
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  when he was in jail,
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  being tortured and all that stuff,
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  the prisoners with them
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  SPEAKER_00: we're like, why do you call the guards brother?
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  SPEAKER_00: And he's just like, well, they're our brothers.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not our enemy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the enemy that's our enemy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the darkness that's our enemy, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you let this monster of resentment consume you,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's riding on your shoulder constantly,
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  and it's slowly draining you of life and energy and slowly
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  destroying your spirit,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of my fear.
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  SPEAKER_00: My fear is that we need to balance the balance of righteous anger with
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  not allowing that anger to turn into pure,
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  like,
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  soul degeneration,
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  right?
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  And a part of me sometimes just wants to just turn off the
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  internet completely,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to even talk about anything.
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  I don't want to,
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  I don't want to even think about any of this stuff,
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  right?
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  I don't even want to,
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  like,
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  I don't even want to,
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  like,
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  I don't want to write about it.
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  It just,
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  it disgusts me,
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  and it disgusts me,
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  and it makes me feel disgusting,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So,
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  SPEAKER_00: A good example,
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  SPEAKER_00: we recorded an episode on Wednesday,
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  SPEAKER_00: which came out on Thursday,
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  SPEAKER_00: with John Carter.
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  SPEAKER_00: The two days before it,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was just like,
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  SPEAKER_00: man,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to talk about that Shiloh,
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  SPEAKER_00: Minnesota thing at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to dwell on that.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's important.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have to talk about it because it is a very critical thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: We talked about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think we talked about it in a very, very...
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  positive good way and then we spent two hours talking about
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  japan and how we loved
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  you know both myself and john carter and jordan living in japan
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  and all the
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  cultural differences and all that stuff and i think you know i
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  was listening to
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  that episode when i was editing and you could tell that like
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  our mood and our voice
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  and our enjoyment of the conversation completely changed when
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  we went away from
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  SPEAKER_00: just the
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  the contemporary like cultural filth that you know that that
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  issue you know and we
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  talked about everything else and we i enjoyed it so much that
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  you know we usually
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  try to keep the episodes under two hours or you know we go from
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  like uh five five
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  p.m to seven um eastern time and we ended up going you know we
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  ended up going like
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  for an extra like hour and a half past schedule and we
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  completely lost track of time.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's where we've got to find the balance,
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  SPEAKER_00: the balance where we have to address these issues and then,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: not let him consume us.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh,
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  SPEAKER_00: I was listening to Dave Green's last podcast that he put up,
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  SPEAKER_00: puts out every other Tuesday and Dave,
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  SPEAKER_00: he,
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  SPEAKER_00: uh,
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  he talked about a lot of like the drama with like the the you
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  know the cool right
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  and all the issues like the inner fighting and that kind of
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  stuff that elite human
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  capital right and he did a fantastic like takedown of that kind
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  of those ideas and
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  that kind of group and it was it was great it was a great two
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  hours of listening on
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  my way to work and on my way home from work and a little bit
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  while I was with Jim
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  SPEAKER_00: and
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  you know,
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  I wrote him a message and I was like,
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  man,
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  it was a great episode.
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  SPEAKER_00: But man, I'm so tired of it, dude.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm so tired of it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I am so tired of like,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want every single like podcast,
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  every single episode to just be about like these negative inner
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  fighting or just mess,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know?
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to learn, I want to talk about building stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to talk about guys writing great books, great political books.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to talk about, you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: Your local community stuff and what you're doing.
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  I want to talk about you guys going to church or your other groups,
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  non-religious.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want all that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just tired.
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  I feel like we risk because most of the people that listen to
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  us and including us
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  SPEAKER_00: tend to be on the right.
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  different shades of right-wing outside the conservative mainstream,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: In a way, we kind of won, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like with the current election, J.D.
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  Vance and all that,
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  we're kind of on the winning side to a certain degree,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And now what?
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  SPEAKER_00: What's next, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It has to be something beyond political, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: There has to be a cultural element that we need to move forward, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: If you look at
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  if you look at the last four years before this current vibe
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  shift or whatever,
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  SPEAKER_00: the progressive side won.
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  SPEAKER_00: At least they won the election thing, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And when the question was posed, what now?
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  SPEAKER_00: It was nothing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just a giant fart, right?
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  It was just more of the same kind of corporate CalArts-looking
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  universe that they
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  SPEAKER_00: gave us,
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  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And we were just kind of sick of it, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: So now we had a vibe ship.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have an overall cultural change.
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  SPEAKER_00: So what now?
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  SPEAKER_00: Now it's our turn.
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  SPEAKER_00: Me, you guys, we've got to figure out what's next.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've got to figure out the direction.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're all not going to go in the same direction.
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  We're going to go in multiple directions,
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  but at least we've got to do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can't just sit there and blah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because
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  SPEAKER_00: The lamest,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: most opportunistic,
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  SPEAKER_00: most shitty people on our side,
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  SPEAKER_00: when this question was posed in the last two,
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  SPEAKER_00: three months,
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  SPEAKER_00: what did they do?
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  SPEAKER_00: They turned on us.
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  SPEAKER_00: They turned on each other, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because they themselves had no answers.
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  SPEAKER_00: They ran and started creating drama and they ran and started creating,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: New York Times,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: article,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: opinions and that kind of stuff against our greater,
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  SPEAKER_00: like,
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  SPEAKER_00: you know,
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  SPEAKER_00: subculture.
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  right because pathetic people do that kind of stuff so we need
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  to be different we
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  need to be like okay it's time to move on it's time to find
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  something new it's time
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  to really build communities at this point i know a lot of you
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  guys are doing it
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  right and that's awesome and like that's what we need to focus
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  our podcast about
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  that's what we need to focus about you know stuff to read stuff
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  to do real action
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  SPEAKER_00: to take real community to build all right
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, this was an experiment.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've never done this before.
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  SPEAKER_00: I honestly decided to record,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_00: hit the live button like five seconds before I actually did it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't even know how it worked.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you guys enjoyed it, let me know in the comments or something.
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  SPEAKER_00: We might do this more often.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope you guys have a great weekend.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you go to church, make sure you go to church, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Have a good day.