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#68 - TRUMP vs. ZELENSKYY | HEATED Oval Office Clash in Front of U.S. Media! · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Donald Trump and Zelensky had just a regular meeting at the Oval Office,
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  and it was fireworks, and I don't think anybody was expecting that.
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  I certainly wasn't. I just saw a bunch of tweets come out, and the first one
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  I saw was Russell Brand tweeted about it, and then it just took off from there.
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  So, I mean, it was crazy. Have you actually seen it yet? What happened?
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  No. It is the news of the day. Somebody told me about it, And then something
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  on my phone said that Trump was humiliated by him.
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  But I was talking to people who saw it. I'm like, no, I wouldn't say that.
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  Somebody said that Trump was humiliated by him? Yeah.
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  I didn't catch that. I don't know. And I've seen it a few times.
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  I watched it through a couple times in everything that happened.
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  We're going to try something new on our Friday evening.
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  We don't even know what we're calling this. This is Friday night with Brandon and Jesse?
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  Sure. yeah that's yeah that's what we've that's what
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  we've been kind of calling it i don't know simple simple straight
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  to the point all right my name is brandon fogel
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  this is jesse and this is
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  friday night with brandon and jesse sounds cool
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  catchy it's catchy it's catching on all right
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  we are going to try something a little bit different so i'm going to be messing with
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  the controls a little bit we don't have our jamie bonnie is
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  not she's out on
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  the lam she's you know somewhere you know somewhere you know
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  should be in bed by now but but you don't think she said no it's a it's a it's
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  a school night no thank goodness yeah yeah you you're a long week you're familiar
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  with school nights we haven't had a full week of school and i don't know how
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  long snow and ice nothing.
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  Are you liking that or is it nice to get have a routine be back in a routine though no it's not,
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  yeah my routine was staying home on snow day i sometimes
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  it's nice to be back for me it's good to be back in
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  a routine maybe teachers are different everybody i
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  talked to at the end of the day i'm like ready to go home like yeah this was
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  the longest week ever teachers are just teachers we're exhausted teachers you
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  i think you got a pretty sweet gig though i think besides the kids part,
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  you know, all the students dealing with kids all day.
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  Well, that's kind of the main part of it. I know, but you get summers off.
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  That's pretty nice. A lot of us do summer school, and then we have even less...
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  We're preparing, getting ready for the next year. It's not that much on.
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  But still, oh my goodness.
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  Okay. All right. So we're going to try something a little bit different.
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  I'm going to show a couple clips of what happened today with Donald Trump and Zelensky.
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  Let's see if these come through right. We'll find out.
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  I'm aligned with the world, and I want to get this thing over with.
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  You see the hatred he's got for Putin. That's very tough for me to make a deal with that kind of hate.
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  He's got tremendous hatred. And I understand that, but I can tell you the other
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  side is exactly in love with, you know, him either.
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  So it's not a question of alignment. I have to, I'm aligned with the world.
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  I want to get the thing set. I'm aligned with Europe.
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  I want to see if we can get this thing done.
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  You want me? All right. So there's three clips I wanted to show just to kind
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  of set the stage of what happened, and then we can kind of discuss it.
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  So Trump and Zelensky, two world powers.
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  And Zelensky, I have my views. Before I even say anything, what do you think of the whole situation?
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  I don't know what the situation is. I just know it wasn't, is,
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  or wasn't Russia, are they continually attacking Ukraine still?
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  Yeah, Ukraine and Russia, it's been at least two years, two years of war.
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  It started in February of, maybe it was like 2023, it was either 2022 or 2023.
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  So it's been at least two years of war where we thought it was only going to last two weeks.
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  And it's The whole issue is Ukraine is very heavily Dependent on us supporting
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  them Funding them giving them Arms and I mean Do we have people over there,
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  like soldiers yes we probably we got
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  soldiers everywhere i don't know if we necessarily have
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  boots on the ground or anything like that but i think it's mainly just us been
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  we've spent like 300 billion dollars of just funding them and what what happened
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  today it seemed like zielinski and i i've went back and forth on this because
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  it is let me switch back a little right now just go back.
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  To zelinski he just i mean
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  this is a guy that's been in war for three years so you got to keep that
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  in consideration and i've seen different videos of him like it
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  seems like almost like he's kind of like tweaking or doing
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  something he like hardness of war is getting to him
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  a little bit you know it's so i mean i think it would
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  get to anyone that he's going through but like even in
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  this interview or this sit down you can
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  he just doesn't look like a man that's got that's
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  everything's right and that's i mean to be expected he's been in war i mean
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  constantly like the the weight of his country is on his shoulders and he's having
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  to carry it and you know yeah that's probably true but from what i heard i didn't
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  see it but what i heard he was just attacking us.
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  And like why aren't you i don't know he wasn't being
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  grateful for anything we did or and it's
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  like his people are probably like shush you
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  know they're what if they withdraw their help
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  or something yeah that was the
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  thing and jd vance was really pushing back on him which i mean donald trump
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  and jd vance is i tweeted out we actually got we finally got men leaders for
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  our country that like these guys are standing up and jd vance were like he was
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  not backing down whatsoever.
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  It was really cool. I mean, he was just like, Zelensky was just sitting back
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  and not showing any gratefulness to, uh, to our country, to,
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  to the administration that's in, in power right now, Trump in advance.
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  And I think it's because he had a pretty, uh, a smooth gravy train coming his
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  way and Biden and Harris, they were giving them anything they want.
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  And it was a blank check as much as you need. We're going to give you all you need and more.
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  And he's, Because he was basically promoting for Biden and Harris.
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  He wanted them in there in power. And it's like to be expected.
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  That awkward now that he has to deal with Trump.
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  Yeah. So I don't think he's too happy about that. Yeah.
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  All right, this is the one causing all the mischief.
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  His name is Rowan. He's a warrior. He's a warrior.
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  He's going to be just... I'm going to get him into jujitsu and karate, martial arts.
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  That's the goal. Can you see yourself, Rowan?
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  What's he thinking? Is his tummy full now? No, he didn't eat.
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  But? you should be asleep I wonder what woke you up what woke you up buddy,
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  he just thought he wanted a midnight snack a midnight snack we're gonna go to
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  second clip this is gonna be more JD Vance stepping in and kind of taking the
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  show it was really cool JD Vance he's just,
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  he's so smart and like he doesn't back down I mean he's not Trumpian he's not
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  that much but he is still like a fighter and it's really cool.
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  We signed the exchange of prisons, but he didn't do it.
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  What kind of diplomacy, J.G., you are speaking about?
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  What do you mean? I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to end
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  the destruction of your country.
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  Yes, but if you... Mr. President, Mr. President, with respect,
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  I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office to try to litigate
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  this in front of the American media.
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  Right now, you guys are going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines
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  because you have manpower problems.
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  You should be thanking the president for trying to bring it into this conflict.
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  Have you ever been to Ukraine that you say what problems we have? I have been to... Okay.
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  And it got a lot more heated. And there's a tipping point that it really took off.
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  And that's going to be the next soundbite that we're going to take a look at,
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  which everybody's probably seen it a few times already.
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  I've already watched it like maybe 10 times already just because it starts off with...
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  Basically, Zelensky says, you all are going to feel it.
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  You're going to feel like if you don't step in and continue funding,
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  you're going to feel it. You're going to feel like that.
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  We're going to hear what he says. But then Trump, he doesn't want any of it. And I don't know.
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  Everybody thinks that this was an ambush. This whole thing got set up like this.
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  But it would not have got out
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  of hand and spiraled out of hand like it did unless zielinski
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  is the one who i would say is was the main contributing factor of why it went
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  off this way i think there's a lot of it that that he doesn't his english is
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  broken like he doesn't it's not like i mean it's a different another language
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  for him so and i think he's very just stern,
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  and he's just a man that's just been in war for the last three years.
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  He's representing his people. So I go back and forth because I like Zelensky,
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  but then we got to do what's right for the American people first and in our best interest.
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  You know, that's the only way that we're going to be able to continue to take
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  care of and help the rest of the world.
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  If we just kind of just bleed ourselves dry, we're not ultimately going to be
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  able to help have as great of an influence if we just, if we lose all,
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  if we give everything away, everything's free and just, and I think the biggest
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  thing, like he wasn't grateful at all.
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  And that was what J.D. Vance kept saying over and over to him was,
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  have you even said thank you once?
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  And he was, I think he was saying it more, he would say thank you to the previous
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  administration because he was happy getting all the dollars coming his way and
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  rolling in. But now it's...
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  Is this really necessary? Let's try to find a different way.
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  We can't just continually give you money and no progress be made.
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  And Trump is ready to just, he wants to somehow get peace between the countries.
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  But... Because early on, Zelensky was like a star.
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  I know he actually was in the movies in his country or something,
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  but he was like this Superman or something. and everybody looked up to him.
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  Now he's kind of changing a little bit.
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  I mean, overall, I think Zelensky, it is funny that people that almost have
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  the greatest impact in politics come out of the movie industry or TV shows.
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  You know, Reagan, you think of Reagan, you think of Donald Trump,
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  you think of Zelensky himself.
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  And I've seen some of the stuff he's done, the videos and movies or shows he
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  created, they're really weird, really weird.
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  You know i mean some of them are zielinski yeah very weird stuff you know like i mean.
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  Not at all the guy that you see now it's like he's
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  like just a flamboyant doing all these weird things and
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  it's really it's really crazy not at all like his stern demeanor that he has
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  now it's completely the opposite but all right this is what the the last one
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  we're going to take a look at and then we'll kind of just talk more about more
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  about everything is this is where it kind of took off and went off,
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  it derailed as some people say.
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  During the war, everybody has problems, even you, but you have nice sauce and
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  don't feel now, but you will feel it.
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  In the future. God bless. You don't know that. God bless. God bless.
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  You will not have to work. Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
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  We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel.
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  I'm not telling you. Because you're in no position to dictate that.
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  Remember, you're in no position to dictate what we're going to feel.
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  We're going to feel very good. You will feel inflamed. We're going to feel very
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  good and very strong. You will feel inflamed. You're right now not in a very good position.
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  You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position. he happens to be right
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  about the very beginning of the war you're not in a good position i was you
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  don't have the cards right now with us you start having cards right now you don't.
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  All right so yeah i mean
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  this is this doesn't happen normally this
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  is this is which is so weird about
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  this whole situation is these things
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  are reserved for behind closed doors
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  yeah you know you don't have like
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  this in front of the media this kind
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  of argument which is this is what's weird about it
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  was it supposed to be like humiliating to
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  trump is that was that the point about what
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  which part like why did he just come and start attacking us
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  well i mean was this the plan all
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  along or did he just get carried away i the trump and them they were very they
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  laid the ground him and Vance laid the groundwork of like this it's not going
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  to be like it was previously and we're going to things are changing we're not
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  just going to give you a blank check anymore so.
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  Zelensky's coming into that like his guards are up you know he's not like just
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  thinking clearly I don't think he's thinking clearly at all yeah well yeah he
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  might just be just you know scared and frustrated that his money might be gone
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  I mean did they tell him that's he's not getting in as much or?
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  Well, I mean, what was actually that he like, I don't think he,
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  it's just not going to be like as free flowing as it was.
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  And he, he knows that he's got to deal with a new administration that's not
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  going to just bend over for him and just give him everything.
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  It's not, it's not going to be like that anymore. And I, I think he's just not,
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  he's not thinking straight.
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  Zelensky is not thinking straight at all. And I think he's, he's just beaten down by the war.
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  That's how I see it. Cause he's not, he's not maybe a couple of years ago,
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  he would be a lot different than he is now, but he's just had years of just
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  been like money just flowing into his coffers.
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  He's had money constantly coming in and funding.
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  It's been nonstop and just a, just a completely different look and different
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  perspective from the new administration. Mm-hmm.
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  But still, he should know that that's not going to help anything, you know? Doing it.
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  That's why it's very shocking to me that he was acting like that.
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  I don't understand it at all.
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  Like, I would have thought he would have been different.
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  I thought he would have, like, because what's his endgame?
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  What is he trying to, going about it this way and just coming out with no thankfulness?
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  He's not putting himself in a good position or his country. because if he loses the U.S.
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  And the backing of the U.S., I don't know.
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  I mean, like, how would he stand against Russia? We're the only reason he has
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  been able to survive because we're funding their complete military and all that they have.
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  It's just like an ungrateful child, you know, just, if you're thankful for things,
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  you're like, oh, well, here's some more.
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  But if you're not grateful for it, it's like, you're not getting anything. Yeah.
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  And I think, Because everything has just been changed completely.
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  With Doge coming in and Elon Musk... What does that stand for?
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  Department of... Government Efficiency. Efficiency.
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  And Elon was on Joe Rogan's show today, or it was released today,
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  and Elon talked about how they came up with the name Doge.
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  Well, of course, Elon loves the crypto Doge, but it was originally going to be something...
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  Something government efficiency and he thought it was boring but then
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  someone brought to him department of government efficiency and he's
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  like yeah we're going with that oh my gosh yeah so
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  what's elon's title he's just
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  he's the head of the president he's the head of doge yeah he's just the head
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  of doge right now so bff of the president yeah but i just know with elon and
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  Joe Rogan that like I haven't listened to the entire podcast that was dropped today but it was.
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  It it's there it could be the one
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  that's going to be the most watched ever and it's like I think
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  the one it would have to rival would be Trump when Trump
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  went on there and I don't know if it could actually but Elon
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  and him were talking about doge and all
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  the stuff and cutting all the the wasteful government spending that
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  is happening and he was just talking about how it's it's
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  not too hard to get this ship right because
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  there is so much waste happening it doesn't
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  take a rocket scientist to get it.
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  Going right and he's like and i know rocket science because he
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  literally is a person that is sending spaceships into internet
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  nice the just this whole
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  like situation with was zielinski and trump is
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  because then zielinski he's got to go back to the his country
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  and i don't know what he has to show for it
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  at all like what like what out by acting
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  that way what did he get out of it and he went on to
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  different shows afterwards and talking about it and
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  he didn't have any remorse didn't didn't like
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  want to retract anything he says he was he regretted
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  like how it ended up happening and everything everything ended up
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  turning out but he didn't regret not being thankful
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  he didn't regret just the whole standoff that they had with one another he didn't
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  like wasn't sorry about it at all and they were supposed to have like like lunch
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  and dinner or whatever and then but Trump said no we're done with this and send
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  them send them out so that's crazy yeah.
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  It's nuts yeah,
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  Back to the doge again. Is he really, like, letting go a lot of workers for the government?
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  So right now, I think they're going after just what workers are actually there.
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  And they're trying to find out who is.
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  Because a lot of just, there's been a lot of just blank checks that have been cut.
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  And they just started, like, fulfilling them to people.
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  And then those people stopped working there. and then but
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  the like the spout never gets turned off so
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  it's just they like so much just billions of dollars
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  just go get wasted instantly and just continually just
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  pouring out and they're just trying to find out
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  where where those are and
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  so things there have been people that have been cut
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  from the government but overall it's it's going
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  to be painful at the beginning and they're going
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  to see what is actually essential and what
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  isn't okay so we're back well i'm
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  back jesse is still working with
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  rowan right now but i wanted to get on here because there is a lot of stuff
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  i wanted to actually talk about with everything going on with the zelinski and
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  donald trump meeting today because that is what is going to come of that it
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  could take us down a not so good of a path But I think overall,
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  it's definitely a good thing that Donald Trump and J.D.
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  Vance are standing that strong and firm for the American people.
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  I 100% agree with them and what they did and not backing down whatsoever because
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  Zelensky, he came at him like full throttle.
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  Like and I it's just a different culture it's like a completely different culture.
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  And perspective he's it's a different language barrier that Zelensky has with
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  speaking English I mean I can barely speak English and he can him speak in another
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  language and he had to have an interpreter every now and then to say a couple
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  things and to make sense of what Donald Trump and what J.D. Vance were saying.
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  And so it's understandable the way that he came at it and him kind of, he had his guards up.
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  Everything's been just given to him. Zelensky, like they, which I mean,
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  I go back and forth. I mean, we want the best for Ukraine.
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  We want the best for Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. We want the war to stop
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  and to stop the bloodshed and stop the people dying and to stop Putin.
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  From, you know, so it is really, it's a tough situation because, but I...
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  Because you love the people that are there, but you also know that we can't
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  just continually giving them money and funding and just nonstop and just them
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  bleed us dry and not have anything to show for it.
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  You know, like we think of Afghanistan and Iraq, and we've had a lot of wasted, a lot of wasted wars.
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  And that goes, I mean, that's, that's troubling and that's troublesome for a lot of people.
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  A lot of people that lost their lives, lost treasure and wasteful spending,
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  and then just the lives of our soldiers that we spent, and they died over in different countries.
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  And that's hard to say because, I mean, absolutely 100% love our military.
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  But when people make wrong decisions and we invade somewhere that doesn't need
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  to be invaded and we kind of just settle and occupy an area that doesn't need
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  to be occupied, we don't need to be the policemen of the world.
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  And I think Donald Trump is definitely changing that whole mindset that we've
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  had as Americans and that the people in our government have had.
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  So this whole like Ukrainian thing is it's it's hot. It's a hot topic because
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  it's like, where do you stand?
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  You know, keep just giving because on both sides, people are either they're
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  full in, all out for one or the other.
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  They like, I'm completely all in, you know, America should stop funding Ukraine
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  or Trump is Hitler and Ukraine, you know,
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  you know, Ukraine is everything, you know, and I see it from both sides and
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  it's kind of, as opposed to just coming to the situation with common sense and
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  what does the situation call for?
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  I think Donald Trump, he's trying to bring sensibility and reason to the situation
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  that We cannot continue just to give you unlimited funding.
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  You know, there's got to be, there's, we want to support you and we,
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  we are backing you, but we cannot just give you continue and not see any,
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  basically anything get fixed or any end game. What's the end game, you know?
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  So you're not going to be able to beat Russia and win this war,
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  you know, and Russia is going to continue to come at you, you know,
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  unless there's got to be some type of agreement,
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  some type of treaty, some type of peace that has to be won.
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  So we would, if we just continue to go down this road of just continuing just
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  to just unlimited funding, give it, give it to give and just don't stop,
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  you know, and it's like, where's all that money going? Where's all that money going?
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  I've just heard some troubling things about Zelensky.
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  You know, he's probably a decent person, and he's doing great things for his
• 24:14
  country, but, you know, I've heard just different things.
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  He's basically stopped any possibility of an election happening over there,
• 24:24
  removed democratic process over there, that he has basically installed himself
• 24:29
  as the power, you know, and he doesn't seem like that at all.
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  But I mean, it's your real test in who you are and your character just bleeds
• 24:38
  through when you have power and he has power now.
• 24:42
  He has power, like significant power and probably not, not told no that often
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  in the people that he is surrounded by.
• 24:51
  And he's just in a bad situation, a terrible situation, a terrible situation.
• 24:56
  And just Putin is not a good dude. He is a terrible, terrible human being, you know?
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  So, and he's going against that, you know, he's going against that.
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  And it's like, we want to stop Putin. We have to stop Putin.
• 25:14
  But the way that we were doing it is not working.
• 25:18
  It's definitely not working. You know, I mean, we spent like decades over in
• 25:23
  Afghanistan and over in just the middle East and what to show for it,
• 25:28
  what to show for it. You know.
• 25:31
  I know it's a hot topic. It's very political. And people have their viewpoint
• 25:36
  on one way or the other are very strong in their beliefs about it, you know?
• 25:41
  Whereas maybe let's just bring some common sense to it, you know?
• 25:45
  Let's bring some common sense to the situation and know that we cannot continue
• 25:51
  doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
• 25:55
  Something's got to change. And I think something is changing.
• 25:57
  And I think it's great that Donald Trump and J.D.
• 26:00
  Vance stood toe-to-toe with Zelensky, you know?
• 26:03
  I mean, I don't think it was very hard, honestly, for Donald Trump to stand
• 26:08
  toe-to-toe with Zelensky.
• 26:10
  Trump has got, you know, massive confidence. You could say confidence,
• 26:16
  ego, whatever, you know?
• 26:18
  He's got whatever it is that I have never seen before.
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  And that's why I'm so, like...
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  Just awestruck by the human being because the onslaught that he's endured and
• 26:33
  able to continue doing the things that he does is just incredible to me.
• 26:39
  I know people don't, some people don't like Trump and a lot of people don't
• 26:45
  like Trump, but I think a lot of people are coming around.
• 26:47
  I think a lot of people are seeing that overall our country was not going down the best road.
• 26:54
  And if we are going to get anything in order for our country to have a future
• 26:59
  for our country, because I mean, I've been in situations where I've been at places where I've.
• 27:07
  Basically, you spend yourself into oblivion, you go into just massive debt,
• 27:12
  and you can't just continue spending and just go in deeper and deeper in debt.
• 27:19
  Eventually, it catches up with you.
• 27:22
  And the way that our country is going, that's why it's so weird because our
• 27:27
  country just creates currency.
• 27:29
  It just, by fiat, just makes more and more money.
• 27:33
  So it's different that way. but it
• 27:36
  does it just and we've we've just
• 27:39
  now started feeling inflation in a lot of ways significantly but
• 27:44
  the way that we are going we will eventually go off
• 27:47
  a cliff unless we change something and i
• 27:50
  had been of the opinion for the longest time that i don't care i'm not a conservative
• 27:56
  in that aspect i don't care about spending because it's like how how in the
• 28:02
  world would we ever actually fix the hole that we're in and dig ourselves out?
• 28:07
  How would that even be possible?
• 28:09
  But I almost can see it. I can almost get a glimmer of it.
• 28:13
  If we change the trajectory that we're going and make things better and change
• 28:21
  the way that we've been doing it significantly.
• 28:26
  I mean, it would almost take a miracle to get us where we are not this deep
• 28:32
  in trillions and trillions in dollars of debt.
• 28:35
  And just hearing the podcast today by Joe Rogan and Elon Musk,
• 28:39
  like Elon was just saying that like the amount of debt that we are in,
• 28:45
  like double that easily.
• 28:48
  Once we come to actual full-fleshed out entitlements, entitlements for what
• 28:55
  people will be owed in the future, basically of being, of pouring their money in and.
• 29:03
  Spent like social security, like it's not a sustainable way of taking care of
• 29:11
  future generations because people
• 29:13
  are spending it, pouring money in where they're not going to see it,
• 29:17
  see that at all, you know, like, and Trump has made it clear.
• 29:20
  He's not going to touch social security, but I mean, there's gotta be some things
• 29:25
  that they're going to have to touch.
• 29:26
  And it's like, I mean, I'm like anybody my age and probably even younger, definitely younger.
• 29:31
  Like, do you actually think you're going to see social security when
• 29:35
  you get old that's where i think it's like the
• 29:38
  the generations before us they just they they just took they just they just
• 29:44
  took it you know they just took it and they kind of left a lot of the younger
• 29:48
  generations basically hung out to dry and i know it's not if i talk to an older
• 29:55
  person like even like people that i know that are older.
• 29:58
  Them personally, it's not them doing it.
• 30:01
  It's basically, it's the system that was put in place. So it's not anybody individual,
• 30:06
  you know, my generation and the generations before me would do the exact same
• 30:10
  thing based on the system that was put in place.
• 30:14
  But I think it's great that we have people that are a part of like the,
• 30:20
  like the, that are in power now that actually want to fix it,
• 30:24
  that are the older ones in the room.
• 30:27
  You know, Donald Trump, he's not a spry young cat anymore.
• 30:30
  J.D. Vance, I mean, he's basically, he's a little bit older than me.
• 30:36
  And so he's on my level, you know, he's definitely a lot higher level in a lot
• 30:42
  of ways, you know, but we come from the same kind of era.
• 30:48
  So there is a possibility to right the ship.
• 30:52
  That's what I I believe. And I think it's great that people that are in high
• 30:56
  power right now, that they're actually wanting to do that.
• 30:59
  They're actually wanting to do that. And I think it's a possibility.
• 31:02
  I mean, because this all ties in, you know, all roads lead to Rome,
• 31:08
  all roads come converge somewhere and all roads make sense overall.
• 31:13
  When we, when we actually fully follow them to their logical conclusion that
• 31:18
  the spending has to stop the spending, like blank check, just giving,
• 31:26
  countries and just foreign aid that we do, we just, just give,
• 31:31
  why are we giving money to everywhere so that we can have something that we
• 31:36
  can take away from them if they don't act the way that we want?
• 31:41
  Overall, it's got to stop. And I think, I think with the new administration
• 31:45
  coming it, they're, they're basically, they're clearly not doing the,
• 31:48
  it's not the same stuff that previous administrations have done.
• 31:52
  And I know that's why a lot of people are getting upset, you know,
• 31:56
  Zelensky included. He's not happy about it at all.