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Bruce Cassidy Would Rather Be Coaching: Early Playoff Highlights, Sunny Back in Jersey and NHLPA Player Poll. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart
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  Speaker 1: podcasts All Right. Coming up on NHL Unscripted, we wrap
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  Speaker 1: up the regular season and a little pole position. The
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  Speaker 1: National Hockey League Players Association releasing the results of the
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  Speaker 1: annual player's poll.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna like what they had to say.
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  Speaker 1: Also, Bruce Cassidy, recently fired as coach of the Vegas
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  Speaker 1: Golden Knights, somewhat have been exclusive as he speaks to
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  Speaker 1: NHL and Scripted as to what went down. Plus more
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  Speaker 1: off the field stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Could the Maple Lease.
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  Speaker 2: Be bringing back Matts?
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  Speaker 3: It is?
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  Speaker 1: Verkin Demers, Nate Thompson along for the ride, tals with us,
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  Speaker 1: althoughis is an echo.
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  Speaker 2: Not sure how much he's gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: Always good to see Nato the network, Always good to
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  Speaker 1: see Jason Demurs the network. Watching NHL tonight this morning,
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  Speaker 1: JD and personning a dog at one point over highlight
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  Speaker 1: and more importantly, when the glass shattered, you uttered its
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  Speaker 1: raining men, good con good song.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a It was a It was a
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  Speaker 4: dare for one of the directors in the back. I
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  Speaker 4: couldn't work it into something that's right. I wanted to
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  Speaker 4: do the happy Gilmore one though, instaid is what do
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  Speaker 4: you think this is hockey? Or this is a hockey game.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a rock concert. Go back to your shanties.
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  Speaker 2: But it is always inevitable, JD.
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  Speaker 1: When you're working in the late shift and native's working
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  Speaker 1: the lay shift tonight, we're recording this Wednesday morning, that
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  Speaker 1: last game goes to overtime, you just know you're you're
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  Speaker 1: staring down the barrel of a gun. Listen, we all
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  Speaker 1: love hockey, We love the NHL Playoffs. You guys dedicate
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  Speaker 1: your live to the sport. But when you see a
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  Speaker 1: game engine towards overtime like that, seriously, can we just
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  Speaker 1: finish the sucker?
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  Speaker 4: Let's go well, Plus there was the glass that was
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  Speaker 4: a twenty minute delay on top of it, so I'll
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  Speaker 4: finish even later.
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  Speaker 5: But Colorado wins. Everything's right in the World.
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  Speaker 1: Playoff first takes, we'll go around the horn here. The
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  Speaker 1: first few days the postseason have given us a lot captains.
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  Speaker 1: Brady could chuck Jordan's still drop on the gloves off
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  Speaker 1: the opening face off, first game of the playoffs, Buffalo
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  Speaker 1: erupting when the Sabers came back to in Game one
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  Speaker 1: against Boston the first time in NHL postseason history, a
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  Speaker 1: team has won in regulation after trailing by two or
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  Speaker 1: more with eight minutes or less remaining. Of course, Austin
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  Speaker 1: stomped back last night, winning four to two. Sefkowski first
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  Speaker 1: playoff hat trick, O two winner first Canadians scored three
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  Speaker 1: power play goals in one playoff game. Then Hagel gets
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  Speaker 1: the first playoff Gordy hal hat trick in lightning history.
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota opening what could be a huge series, but that's
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  Speaker 1: a six one SmackDown the Stars. Responding Game two, Carolina
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  Speaker 1: one goal disallowed by an offside review award a penalty
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  Speaker 1: shot ol Mark stops. They still win Game two in
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  Speaker 1: double overtime. Flyers when the first two games in Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 1: they go home with an eighteen to zero franchise record
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  Speaker 1: at best of seven.
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  Speaker 2: When they're up to to oh.
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  Speaker 1: Dry Settle returns to the Oilers and Utah defenseman. Lastly,
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  Speaker 1: Nate Shawn Jersey gets fined five grand for headbutting Rasmus
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  Speaker 1: Anderson lost to choose from your highlights so far off
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  Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup playoffs, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's been. It's had everything, literally everything we could think of.
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  Speaker 3: It's had and I mean even that that penalty shot
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  Speaker 3: that was that was awarded. I've never seen that before.
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  Speaker 3: It's just been it's been incredible. I think the Tampa
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  Speaker 3: Montreal series for me has been I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: it's tough to pick one series, but that series is
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  Speaker 3: been electric. I don't know this this playoffs, it's only
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  Speaker 3: going to get better too because the first round and
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  Speaker 3: stay like a playoffs is there's nothing better JD for you.
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  Speaker 4: My favorite thing so far about the playoffs has been
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  Speaker 4: the Philly drubbing Pittsburgh Penguins. I didn't expect it, but
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  Speaker 4: we're seeing a lot of young versus old teams. You
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  Speaker 4: look at Tampa versus Montreal to night's point, and then
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  Speaker 4: Philly versus pitt This young Philly team, upstart team Porto
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  Speaker 4: Martin's a stud Dan Vladar has been incredible and just
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  Speaker 4: their structure is frustrated Pittsburgh, and Pittsburgh looks out of sorts.
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  Speaker 5: They look absolutely awful. So they're down.
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  Speaker 4: I guess when you go down two at home in
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  Speaker 4: any playoff series, the percentage of you winning is like
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  Speaker 4: nineteen percent if you go down two at home in
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  Speaker 4: the first two games. So they're in trouble big time
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  Speaker 4: and looking like Philly. But I mean one thing is
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  Speaker 4: either team that wins that series is gonna get drupped
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  Speaker 4: by Caroline or Ottawa. Because way there's different level. There's
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  Speaker 4: levels to this and and Philly and pitt It's been
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  Speaker 4: a good kind of a good series. But I just
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  Speaker 4: think Pittsburenn's so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Nate's surprised how quiet Sidney cross We's been.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we've seen Sandheims in a real number on him,
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  Speaker 1: kind of getting his face h you know, cross checking him,
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  Speaker 1: just barking a little bit. Pittsburgh's power play specifically has
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  Speaker 1: been atrocious. I mean, the Flyers power play is bad,
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  Speaker 1: but Pittsburgh power has been so bad.
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  Speaker 2: Philly scores short handed.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you got fourth liner scoring, Glenn Dennings scoring
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  Speaker 1: at an empty netter Owen Tippett sitting up halfway halfway
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  Speaker 1: scored one goal this year. Like, if you tell me
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  Speaker 1: to Philly, fourth liners scored. I mean, that's not the
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  Speaker 1: recipe for success that the Flyers were anticipating. With the
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  Speaker 1: able to get the advantage over Pittsburgh in Game two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am surprised. I'm surprised. It hasn't been better.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of guys that could be better, though.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let's start with their power play. Like their
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  Speaker 3: power play was it was a momentum sucker, to be honest,
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  Speaker 3: Like it took the momentum away from uh Carlson Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 3: and Carlson has not looked great. Gino. Gino had a
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  Speaker 3: really tough night too. Yeah, I mean it was just
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  Speaker 3: one guy after another and Philly. Philly's done such a
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  Speaker 3: good job of keeping them to the outside, clogging up
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  Speaker 3: the middle of the ice. Like Pittsburgh hasn't been able
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  Speaker 3: to get second and third opportunities, like everything is shot
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  Speaker 3: from the outside. It like Sid has, He's had a
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  Speaker 3: couple of chances, but like I haven't really seen Sid
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  Speaker 3: in front of the net like mocking it up or
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  Speaker 3: you know, getting in his spot like he usually does.
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  Speaker 3: So like to JD's point, and I've been a part
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  Speaker 3: of a team that's come back from O two losing
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  Speaker 3: two games at home. But it is near impossible if
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  Speaker 3: you're in this situation, like you saw the percentage of
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  Speaker 3: Jad mentioned, So Pittsburgh has their workout out for him right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Jady, when you look at the Montreal Canadians. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tal is just so enthusiastic. He's chirping.
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  Speaker 2: Even when the Habs lose.
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  Speaker 1: Nate has to point it on the detection like your
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  Speaker 1: team lost, but congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: It was a hard, fun game.
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  Speaker 1: Thoughts on Montreal so far, it looks to be a
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  Speaker 1: hotly contested there.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good stamp and I.
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  Speaker 1: Love a good Gordia Hall playoff Hatrick, good stuff from Hagel.
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  Speaker 4: Well yeah, Hegel's Hagel and Josh Anderson have been have
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  Speaker 4: been the first first stars of this series so far.
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  Speaker 4: I know Slavkovski had that great performance, but Anderson is
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  Speaker 4: in their kitchen and he's living rent free. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: they cannot They're incensed by him at every turn. It
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  Speaker 4: just looks like they all want to kill him. But
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  Speaker 4: I don't know as dumb as that Scott sabern penalty
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  Speaker 4: was with two minutes left, you saw them all on
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  Speaker 4: the bench.
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  Speaker 5: They collectively grab their heads.
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  Speaker 4: The guys being like, oh no, cause I think I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure Scott saburns like loved in the room, yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: by the coaching staff, and you just like want him
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  Speaker 4: to succeed, but he just, you know, the wires cross
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  Speaker 4: and I think the wires cross on him. But once
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  Speaker 4: they killed that, I mean, they didn't give up a
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  Speaker 4: shot in overtime, and it looked like they kind of
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  Speaker 4: all got into the room and were like, listen, guys,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna fucking lose this series to this team, like we.
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  Speaker 5: Better clean it up.
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  Speaker 4: But it just they looked Montreal looked like the more
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  Speaker 4: composed team. They looked like the veteran team, and Tampa
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  Speaker 4: looked like they just couldn't get they couldn't figure it out.
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  Speaker 4: They looked frustrated, uh, just agitated by everything that Montreal
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  Speaker 4: was doing. And they kind of figured it out at overtime.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm anxious to see at the Bell Center Game
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  Speaker 4: three how Tampa comes out. But that's been a I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I get my question, I guess is to Nate because
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  Speaker 4: yesterday I watched so many games and I don't think
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  Speaker 4: I've ever seen more scrums in recent memory in the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs after every whistle.
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  Speaker 5: But how much super glue has been wasted?
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  Speaker 4: Because if you're gonna I was like, if you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: wrestle that much, If you're gonna wrestle that much and
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  Speaker 4: do jiu.
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  Speaker 6: Jitsu, which is gay it's gonna do gay jiu jitsu
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  Speaker 6: martial arts. You know, as I was joking, you're gonna
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  Speaker 6: if you're gonna wrestle like that to your point and
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  Speaker 6: take these coincidental minors like just fucking drop the gloves
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  Speaker 6: and sucker punch somebody.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I've never ever seen this many scrums.
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  Speaker 3: Who was it last night in the Tampa? Was it
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  Speaker 3: Bull Duke and was it lilliberg or I don't know
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  Speaker 3: who it was, but they wrestled.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they wrestled.
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  Speaker 4: If the ref's letting you wrestle with gloves on for
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  Speaker 4: two minutes straight, yeah, just fight.
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  Speaker 3: It looked like they were trying to someone's hiding a
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  Speaker 3: little nut and with the other one's trying to find it,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, they're hugging each other as they're doing it.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I don't know, I've never seen anything like
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  Speaker 3: this GD. I mean, there's been scrums in every single series.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen this many fights either. Like
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of fights in the playoffs that there
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  Speaker 3: hasn't been in the past, so it's different.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody brought it up.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, is it it's all that goes back to
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  Speaker 4: like either the Austin Matthews on a Goudas on Matthews
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  Speaker 4: or the just the whole buffalo thing at the start
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  Speaker 4: of the year when like they got called out on
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  Speaker 4: for Tage Thompson getting hit and then now they just
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  Speaker 4: fight at any you know, they just wrestle each other. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's like every single series's guys in the box yelling
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  Speaker 4: at the other one you're a pussy. And they were
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  Speaker 4: just wrestling for like two minutes. No punched each other
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  Speaker 4: in the face, just face washing. I'm like, it's so
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  Speaker 4: weird to me.
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  Speaker 3: It is. I don't get it either, But I mean this,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, I've never seen this many fights, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's just it's it's like guys are trying to really
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  Speaker 3: use the whole timidation thing. Like it's it's it hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been that in the past as much, and this year
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  Speaker 3: it's really evident.
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  Speaker 1: One more thought before we get to the off the
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  Speaker 1: ice stuff. But Nate was thinking of you watching that
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  Speaker 1: Boston game one, saying, well, everyone's rooting for the Sabers
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  Speaker 1: Cinderella team, Like Nate call Bruins to win, looking pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: Then the Sabers have this epic comeback and oh my god. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but credit to Marcus Strm in Boston for bouncing back
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  Speaker 1: in game too. They showed the Resolve could have won
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  Speaker 1: that game four nothing till Buffalo scored twice. What have
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  Speaker 1: you seen that Bruins Saber series. I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are now treating the Bees a lot more seriously.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bruins, I mean we talked about before the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs and and how Marco Sturm has had this team,
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  Speaker 3: i mean dialed into their system and they play it
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  Speaker 3: to a t and if they end up getting you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you've seen Buffalo had their chances or maybe they
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  Speaker 3: have sustained offensive's own pressure and and Boston is one
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  Speaker 3: of those teams they kind of bend and don't break,
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  Speaker 3: and you know they had that situation in game one,
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  Speaker 3: but I think they they turned the page quickly, and
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  Speaker 3: you know you heard Marco Sturm talk about it, and
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  Speaker 3: they bounce back and they had a hell of a game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Victor arvertson this guy. He's been such a
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  Speaker 3: huge pickup for the Bruins. I know Marco Sturm had
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  Speaker 3: him and had him in LA when he was there.
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  Speaker 3: Marco Storm was an assistant, so he's really familiar with
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  Speaker 3: him and likes him a lot. And you can see.
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  Speaker 3: I mean he's been uh, he's been a highlight for
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  Speaker 3: the Bruins, especially these first couple of games. And that line,
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  Speaker 3: especially Zaka and Middlestad so good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been the That was the best line all year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: was that zachline. I mean, if Buffalo doesn't figure out
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  Speaker 4: their power play, they're dead.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you can't.
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  Speaker 4: You can't, and Nate knows this, Like, you can't when
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  Speaker 4: a team's fucking around with you and they're taking penalties
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  Speaker 4: and they're they're beating on you, and then you can't answer.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: We talk about team toughness being the power play, Like
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  Speaker 4: if you can make them pay in the power play,
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  Speaker 4: that'll kind of calm it down. Yeah, but if you
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  Speaker 4: continually lay an egg on each power play, they'll just
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  Speaker 4: keep fucking with you. Because if I'm in that room,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, guys, they cannot figure out their power play,
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  Speaker 4: keep running them at every change, Frustrate the shit out
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  Speaker 4: of them, and I think they're like something like Ozero
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  Speaker 4: for thirty eight or something. In their last thirty eight attempts.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's like dating back to the end of the year.
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  Speaker 4: Like they they put they're trying to put Stage Thompson
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  Speaker 4: every position.
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  Speaker 5: It's not working.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if Rasmus Dalin is the best guy
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  Speaker 4: to run the top of a power play unit as
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  Speaker 4: a quarterback. I think he's a great offensive defenseman. But
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  Speaker 4: I might throw Bo Bayram there as the guy and
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  Speaker 4: just let him kind of run with it. He seems
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  Speaker 4: to more he seems to be more fluid on the
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  Speaker 4: blue line. But yeah, they don't figure it out. They're
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  Speaker 4: in trouble. And credit to Boston going and getting the
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  Speaker 4: split in Buffalo Chipplewa Street. How about those guys in
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  Speaker 4: the rollerblades. Yeah, that's the highlight of the playoffs. Buffalo
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  Speaker 4: fighting the dummy, Buffalo dummies, the benders and they're just
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  Speaker 4: like cracked out on meth and and they were like
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  Speaker 4: rollerblading down the highway after Do you see that video?
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  Speaker 1: It's just alarming, to be honest with you, they don't
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  Speaker 1: even go to the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they go, they go there, they fight the dummy,
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  Speaker 4: and then they rollerblade down the highway to their shanties.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta get Yeah, we'll get them next week. We'll
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  Speaker 1: go from Bruce casting to the guys who are rollerblading
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  Speaker 1: in Buffalo beating up dummies. We go to off the
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  Speaker 1: ice and a sunny day. Didn't take long for the
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  Speaker 1: Devils to fill their GM vacancy, the team announcing last
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  Speaker 1: week former Florida Panthers assistant gym and head of analytics
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  Speaker 1: Sonny Mata is the new general manager.
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  Speaker 2: Sunny started his management career with the Devils.
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  Speaker 1: He was one of the league's first data analytics directors.
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  Speaker 1: Started out studying music at the University of Miami, eventually
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  Speaker 1: pursued a music crew before becoming a professional poker player.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Legrandu What's Up? He even wrote two books about poker.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of Sonny Mata here at JD
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  Speaker 1: running the Devils?
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  Speaker 4: Well, all the things you explained is you know analytics
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  Speaker 4: and and understanding strategy. So I expect a very you know,
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  Speaker 4: analytical approach to this is easy as a low brow
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  Speaker 4: analysis I could give you. I just think that's what
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  Speaker 4: it looks like. When you read that, it's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: this guy's gonna he's really gonna crunch the numbers LA
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  Speaker 4: office and he's just gonna he's gonna see what he
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  Speaker 4: can put together and he's gonna make things work. Numbers wise,
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  Speaker 4: you might see some him bring some guys in on
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  Speaker 4: discounts that he thinks have good underlying numbers. There's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a good marriage of both. Now, I think he's
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  Speaker 4: got to insulate himself with somebody very good in terms
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  Speaker 4: of understanding what hockey is in the eye test, and
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  Speaker 4: then I think he'll fill in the gaps there.
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  Speaker 5: So you you know, you might see a good marriage here.
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  Speaker 4: Of an analytics guy with with somebody that you know
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  Speaker 4: next player and then I don't know who's around that
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  Speaker 4: might go go and take that job. But there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of X Devils guys that I'm sure would love
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  Speaker 4: to be an advisor and help them up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The more I the more I hear about him
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  Speaker 3: and read about him and listen to his press conferences,
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  Speaker 3: I like him. I mean I read something yesterday that, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he got into analytics because of poker and he was
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  Speaker 3: never really an analytics guy at heart, and he grew
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  Speaker 3: up playing hockey here in Jersey obviously he's from here,
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  Speaker 3: and he said that, you know, that's what really got
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  Speaker 3: him into the analytics side was playing poker, and it
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  Speaker 3: kind of you know, translated to the hockey side, and
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  Speaker 3: then obviously him being in Florida. I think learning under
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  Speaker 3: Bill Zito and getting a couple of cups and having
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  Speaker 3: that experience. I like him. I think it could be
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  Speaker 3: a really good hire. The more I hear from him,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of like him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a very cool picture he was posting. This is
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  Speaker 1: a kid where in the devil's jersey was like whatever,
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  Speaker 1: twelve years older side. But it's really cool and guys
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  Speaker 1: you can know they have a perse certain passion for
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  Speaker 1: the game and the passion they were kids to get
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  Speaker 1: their dream job, so to speak. Wishing Sonny Mitchell, well,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: hopefully it works out. If one new GM is coming in,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: it must be one is going out. Vancouver announcing that
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: Patrick Alvin no longer the GM. Alvin was on the
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: job a little for four years, how pleave Vancouver to
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: first place finish in the Pacific in twenty twenty three
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but the team declined since then.
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: He traded away J. T.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Miller, Quinn Hughes, Keith Sherwood, and Connor Garland. They finished
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the season with fifty eight points fourteen minds, the second
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: lowest total in the league. Alvin the only three time
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: guest in Amazon Prime.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Great guy.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Love the fact they posted the picture of him with
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: his bags packed in a big smile in his face.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: I assume that was a real time picture as he
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: was thrilled to be leaving Vancouver. Sabers have reportedly granted
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the permission interviewed their former GM Kevin Adams. According to
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Matthew Fevron and Thomas Trantro the Athletic multiple sources, they've
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Alsays Tron for permission to speak to their special advisor,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Shane don jd. How about it, Shane's world taking over.
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: Vancouver, Donor.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: It's only a matter of time before Donor makes his
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: way in the GM role. He is just so good
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: with people, and that's a big requirement of that job.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: He's so well loved in the community, in the hockey world,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: and he's got a great sense of a game. So
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: he'd be my pick for a lot of I'm surprised
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been kind of given the nod. I think
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: he's probably waiting for the right opportunity, maybe waiting to
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: see if the Coyotes come back and take that wink wink,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: but nice, I think in the meantime, I could see
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: him being a really good addition to any team.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: I'd love to see him.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, listen, Kevin Adams deserves another shot as well.
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: But I think Shane Doan is just so lovable and likable,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: and maybe he's so lovable that you got to kind
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: of keep him in a special advisor role or an
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: assistant GM and not the actual GM. But I think, yeah,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I think anything's better than and I don't mean to
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: shoot on Alvin, but anything's better than what's transpired the
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: last two years in Vancouver. That's what I'll say. Anything's better.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: So I'm not saying a knock on Alvin. He lost
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: the handle on it. But anything's better than what's been
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: going on in the past two years. A nutless monkey
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: is better than what's been on the last two years.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: I'm worried if I don't know, I mean, this Vancouver
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: job is I guess it. It looks good, but I mean,
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: you're under Rutherford and he basically made he called the
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: shots and he said that with Alvin being there, So
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, for the Mayle Lafe, do
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: you look at maybe bringing in Shane Don't there instead?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Since you have min House. I don't know. I mean,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: you have him and Matt Sundean. There's an option. I
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: just I'm sure there's gonna be other jobs opening up,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: but the one in Vancouver. I just think that I
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: don't know with with what all the quotes Rutherford said
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and how he talked about you know, it was it's
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: on me, you know, those are at the end of
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: the day. Was are my decisions? I don't know.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: It was a little confusing, But I don't know. We'll
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: see what happens though. I mean, there's a lot there's
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of jobs that are open up right now.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: How'd that firing go? Did you just sit in the
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: room and go, hey, Alvin, Yeah, it's all my fault.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: But you fy it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: But but you don't, but you're fired. Hey, it's all
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: my fault, but you're fired, right, Like.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Goodball hunting, it's not your fault. Robin Williams and Matt
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: Damon in this instance, good deep cut. I don't feel
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: great about mattsond and potentially running the Maple Leafs. The
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Leafs are another team looking for new new management. Elliot
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: from reporting that apparently Matt's, of course a Leaf's legend
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: for a role longtime Leaves captain Francis's all time points
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: did most recently worked as an analyst for Swedish TV
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: at the Olympics. Nate, I'll tell you why I'm not
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: big on it now. I like Matt's great guy. Obviously
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: was a great leader, great leaf. Don't think he's really
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: in touch with the league. Last time I checked, he's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: just been hanging out in Sweden, like he did a
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: little bit of TV.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: He's been living the life as a dad.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I heard him on a pocket recently saying doesn't watch
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of the hockey's is he raising a family,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: which I respect and support. But I wouldn't want that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: guy running the maple leafs. It feels like a little
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: bit to me, it's an honorarium position, like we'll get
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: a sunny may Ta here's an analytics guy, but then
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Matt's wayavy in here to clean it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: Up a little bit.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I would be not surprised because I could get it.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Obviously it would be a pr stroke, so to speak.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: But Matt Sunday running leaves not crazy about it.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: You Maybe I don't know running the leafs, but optics wise,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I think it's always good if you brought him back.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I think it's only good for the Leafs. I think
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: the Leafs could use any kind of positive reinforcement for
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: their organization. I think Matt Suendean would be it, right,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: did he? Maybe bringing in a guy that has zero.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Information on this team in this franchise is the best
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: possible thing to make the great decision, because he's going
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: to walk and he's going to be like, hey, Pelly,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here, like beat it, like
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: beat it. I got this, And you know he's listen.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: He doesn't watch a lot of hockey, but he has
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: hockey knowledge. Now, is this kind of a classic Leafs
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: move to just bring somebody that no one thought of
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: that's super underqualified. Yes, And I'm kind of here for it,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: and I love it because I'm fully convinced that they
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: make all their money on the media because the team's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: so bad, and they just love when the team sucks,
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: so they're just trying to be just embrace that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know, Matt Sundeen, you haven't to your point.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: I saw him in the Olympics walking into Swedish TV,
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: so you know he's he's alive.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: He's more hockey.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's locked up for or body.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: We'll take it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Tell you a couple of thoughts your potential people that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: could be involved.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, you were talking about guys who haven't been
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: around the league much.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Apparently the Leafs are considering John Shaika as their next GM.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: That guy has not been in the league and I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: think almost five years.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: JD.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: You might know something about about John's.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the Wendy's the Wendy's King franchise king. Him
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: and his wife owned like fifty franchises. Okay, he don't
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: need the money, I can tell you that much. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: he's coming for the love of the game. Hey, he's
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: another He's like a he's kind of like a Sonny Metal,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a little bit of of sorry Meta. He's a for
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: ad nance. You don't get mad at me your people's
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: uh so you get my wife's name rat Uh?
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I think Listen, do I think Chika is the
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: right role.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: He's been sniffing to get back for a while now,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and I think he does have good knowledge. I mean, listen,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: before he was fired or you know, before he left,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: which like he left at lunchtime and no one even knew.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: When I was there in Arizona, we were like first
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: in the Pacific. We're in the Pacific. At that point,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: we were first in the Pacific, and he wanted to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: go get Tyler to Foley at the deadline. This is
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: the COVID year and that was like the exactly what
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: we needed. We needed a goal scorer in the wing.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: And the new owner came in Morello and he said, well,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: I want to make a splash. Let's go get Taylor
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Hall and Chikes and them was like, that's not the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: right guy to bring in, Like he's Taylor Hall's great,
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: but it doesn't fit in our lineup. And he said, no,
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I want to make a splash and ended up bringing
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: in Taylor Hall, and we went from first to out
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: of the playoffs, and then Chika left in the middle
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: of the night, and then you know, COVID hit and
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: we came back in the bubble and Taylor Hall was there.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And not to say that Taylor Hall's not a great player,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: just we needed to folly at that point, but he
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: had built a good team with what he had and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: how little they were willing to spend, So he's going
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to be on a franchise that's willing to spend.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: I think he can do some damage.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Until you another one as well, potentially in Vancouver. Well,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I was just good.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think this is going to happen.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I wanted to stir things up and get your take about.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: You know, Emily Kestingay, the assistant GM.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm pronouncing her name right, but
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the assistant GEM in Vancouver.
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: Is there any chance, any chance she got gets the
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: big job and we have our first female GM in
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: the history of the National Hockey League.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: But I think it's possible.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: I think it's definitely possible.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I think, I mean, you could go to let me
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: look at Toronto and Haley wickanizer of her dad have
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: heard you know Cami Grnado too, that's another name that
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: she's in. She's in management as well. I mean I
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: think that it's I think it's a matter of time
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: before we probably get our first woman GM. I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: it's you know, you look at some of the women
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: throughout women's hockey, like Cameron now Hay organizers. These these
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: females like they they know a lot. They've been around
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Hall of famers, no more than us. The Hall of Famer. Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: so I wouldn't be surprised if that is a possibility.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But Jadi, imagine the men of sexist who would just
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: be outraged and Vancouver I this happened, there'd be a
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: mutiny if what the amount of sexist who.
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Would be so upset?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You kid, of a woman running an NHL team? Are
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: you kidding me?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: You would?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: You would face that backlash. You and I both know this.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: I can either confirm nor deny that would happen. The
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: majority of people this is awesome, and I refuse to
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: put my name on that on that that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're one of them.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that you are going to be people
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: who'd say you can't have a woman running a team.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: T w h L.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: No chance. I'm in two lawsuits. I don't want to
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: be in the third one.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Not about sexist all right, fair point, as long as
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: you're not also facing lawsuits for being a sexist.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: No I'm not. I can only do racism, okay, So
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I love to racism.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Huge racist, not a sexist. Still to come here.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Only one of as off the rails.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Only one of the isart.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: We need another episode this week.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: If we can get two episodes a week, that'd be great.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, all kidding aside me.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: If you had two episodes a week, you have to
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: listen to this episode the next six hours. If you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: listen to this by eight o'clock tonight, the Flyers already
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: be up one to nothing. This is already a dated podcast.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're already having so we might as well
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: just say shit, ougity boogey, ugy boogey. I mean, thirty
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: two Thoughts has three episodes a week free just phrages
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: of machine. We might as well just play.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Let's play thirty two Thoughts on audio and just let it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Here's the update from.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Whatever it takes to get another episode out.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I love it still to come here in NHL Unscripted,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Bruce Cassi, that's right, butch Cassi in the Sun Dance case.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: We'll ask him what happened in Vegas and what's next
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: for him? All that more coming up next after this
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on NHL Unscripted.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Our next guest was.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Drafted eighteenth over wrong with the Chicago Blackhawks the nineteen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Eighty three NHL Entry Draft.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Played thirty six games with Chicago before venturing into coaching
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: went on to coach parts of two seasons in Washington
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: before becoming head coach the Boston Bruins, taking them to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Final in twenty nineteen and winning the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Jack Adams Award in twenty twenty.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: He most recently served as head coach the Vegas Golden Knights.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: With him, he won the.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup in twenty twenty three to give that franchise
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: its first championship. Welcome Bruce Casty. Bruce, great to see you.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me on.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Guys, It's always such a great time watching the first
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: round the NHL playoffs.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: We know you're in Cape Cod right now. What have
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: your days been like ever since the recent change in Vegas?
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: Well, long, i'd rather be coaching in the playoffs. That's
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: what you grind all year for, to be honest, but
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: it didn't work out that way. So playing a little golf,
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: although it was this morning was forty four degrees out,
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: so not great. But to windy watching hockey actually, you
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: know kind of we have a summer house here, so,
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: you know, doing a few things around here. But I'm
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: not exactly a handyman, so it's it's not much.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Trust me, I'm not either.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: But you know, Bruce, I just want to ask you,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: like we've seen in recent years with coaching, it's it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: become harder and harder to I don't want to say
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: stay in the good graces of like management and leadership,
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: but like it's really judged of like what have you
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: done for me lately? And were you surprised at all
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: kind of how things went down? And for you, like
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: what do you make of the whole coaching carousel that's
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: going on in the NHL right now? It's just how
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: hard it is to really to cement yourself, no matter
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: how well you do.
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, that that part of it, Like you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: usually I mean I got jobs because someone got fired, right,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: So we kind of accept that to a certain extent,
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: that's the way it goes. It seems like this year
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: there was some late firing. Typically don't happen as often.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: You know, I was one, Patrick raw was one. So
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: you know, maybe that will become a trend. I don't know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: You know, that part of it is unfortunate because you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: everyone wants to coach in the playoffs. I mean, you're
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: playing to get your name in the Stanley Cup, right
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: and and well we're no different as coaches. That's what
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: we want. So uh, you know those are tough, but
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: that's a little bit of the business and hopefully there's
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: a little more continuity going forward. But you know, you
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: see it every year, what was what five or six
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: guys that you know get shuffled around, and you know,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: hopefully there's a you know, an opportunity for me to
• 27:39
  Speaker 7: jump back on the fierce wheel, so to speak down
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: the road and see how that works out.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be. Uh. We were all surprised
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: with how late Vegas made this coaching change. Were you
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: surprised to brus.
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: Yes, and and we didn't have a good march, so
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: you know, you always wonder some of our bigger guys
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: went silent, so that that's always where you some For
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: me as a coach, you know, we grind it all
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: year to stay in a playoff position. We had some injuries,
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: some other things happened, but I guess the easiest ways
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: to put it, I I'd rather still be there coaching.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, you spend that much time with
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: your team but didn't work out. So you know, there's
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: different emotions and you've got to detach yourself. I guess
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: at the end of the day and start thinking about
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: the next one.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: At some point, As you said, Bruce, coaches are hired
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to be fired, but when you're not expecting it, especially
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: after you've had some success with that franchise, the news
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: comes down, what happens immediately next? Do you call players?
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Do you text players? Do you just clean your stuff out?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious the process in the immediate aftermath.
• 28:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's always you know, you know, in the middle
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: of the season. You know, it was a Sunday, so
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: we had a day off. It's like, you know, can
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: I come back and clean out my office in a
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: bit or you know what I mean, like someone's gonna
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: take it. So you're handing in your key fobs for
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: this and that and and and you know, it's a
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: little odd when, you know, when I got home later
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: that night, after I went into the office, because it's like, jeez,
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: I walked through that door. Probably h the practice rinks
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: in Summerland where a lot of the guys live. We're
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: not a team mobile a lot, so you're there even
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: on off days. It's eight minutes from your house, and
• 29:15
  Speaker 7: it's like, I ain't going back in there, so that
• 29:18
  Speaker 7: that was an odd one with some great memories there.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: But yeah, after that, it's you know, you you sort
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: of o, hey, what am I going to do next?
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: And you're keeping a tabs on the team and talking
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: to some people. I texted every player that we coach there,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: just especially the guys we won with. I mean, that's
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: something we'll have forever. He can't you know, he can't
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: take that away from anybody, player or coach. So you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: that was the great part about Vegas and some you
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: hear back from some of you don't know, other guys
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: probably down the road a little bit more so that
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: that's a little bit what would happen?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Did you have any contact with Towards?
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: He texted me actually that that that night. I like Towards.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: He's a classy guy. I've never worked directly with him,
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: we've coached against each other a number of times, including
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: in the playoffs. So he's doing a good job there
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: and I think he'll be he'll be a good voice
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: for them. Uh.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I'm always fascinated, Like now for you, you know, as
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: a player, you're like, okay, I just got to wait
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: till the next training camp and get back in and
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: I either got to get a PTO and stuff like that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Do you but with your you know, resume, and you
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: know there's gonna be a lot of teams calling whenever
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: there are coaches on the hot seat. Do you have
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: some teams penciled down or like, what does it look
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: like for you? Are you wanting to jump right back in?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Do you want to be a little bit more methodical
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: and pick something that fits for you and your family?
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah? I mean, you know, I got kids in high school,
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: so you know that there's certainly those considerations and adversity.
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: You know, JAS is not necessarily the end of the world, right,
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I have another year left to
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: my deal and we get paid well as coaches, so
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: but there is the family dynamic that sometimes you know
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: you're going to move your kids or not you're going
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: to you know, those are things that I suspect players
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: go through, just the kids are younger when it happens,
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: if they get traded at the deadline, they have to
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: go through some of that stuff too, So that's not
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: unique to us. But for me, it's like, there's no
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: openings right now, so there's not really much to even
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: look at and go, Okay, how about maybe this team's
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: a fit. So but you know how it works. You know,
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: a couple of weeks from now, after the first round,
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: there's going to be some teams that lose the first
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: round or disappointed. Sometimes the coach pays a price for that,
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: so that could be opening or gems make a decision
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: after evaluation. So I think that's still a ways away.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: But yes, I'm a coach. I'm not getting any younger.
• 31:37
  Speaker 7: I'll be sixty one next month. I want to you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 7: I want another opportunity to get the Cup. So I
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: would hate to see, you know, another year go by
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: where you don't get at it, because I'm not going
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: to have a chance this year. So that's how I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: looking at it. And hopefully it's a good fit. Whatever
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: that team looks like, well.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Bruce, you look fucking fantastic. Looks like he's a hundred.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Stay on the cape. God good for it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Must be the cave, Son, I don't know, it's.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Got to be the cave. We're gonna shift gears a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: little bit. And you know you have as a player,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: and I know as a player, you have different coaches
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that are extremely influential on you. And you want to
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: you want a title with Darryl setter in in in Indianapolis.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: How influential was he to your coaching style?
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: A lot, you know, and Darryl is uh, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: the people have different opinions of Darryl out there. We
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: you know, I was halfway through the second year with him.
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: The first year, you know, everything went well and were
• 32:38
  Speaker 7: losing the playoffs, right and having a good year. Played
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: a lot in the next year. He was tough on
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: a lot of the guys, and there was some days
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: I was like, is this really worth it? You know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: but he taught me how to win? We want a
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: championship that year you had to change your game a
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: little bit. We became a much more harder to play
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: against teams. So I learned a lot. You know. I
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: was always an offensively kind of dimensional defenseman, and and
• 33:03
  Speaker 7: you know, he taught me how to defend better and
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: the team how to defend better and how to be
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: you know, get get that identity. And I thought it
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: worked really well for us. So I've always taken that
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: part of it from him, and that there is a
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: learning curve and any push guys, he knew that he
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: could push you and then push a little more. But
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: I think he knew there was a line there as
• 33:23
  Speaker 7: well that you got to be careful with with players,
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: And so I enjoyed playing for Darryl at the end,
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: probably more after right, when you get a little bit older.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: You've been through it a little realize.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: You know, you go, Okay, this is why he did it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: I get it now. And now you're into coaching and
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: you see it right, Like, and I've had players i've
• 33:42
  Speaker 7: coached there now, coaches that will call me and tell
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: me the same thing, like, oh, I get now, why
• 33:47
  Speaker 7: you know you had to do it this way or
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: that way? Didn't have to, but chose to, right. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: that's what I learned from Darryl. And you know, I
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: think there was a lot of guys in that team.
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: The other thing, there's about ten or eleven guys went
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: from that IHL team in nineteen ninety on to be
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: good role players in the NHL. So we also taught
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: guys to okay, you're good down here in the IHL.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: What can you do to help a team win? Bobby
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: Bass and Mike Eagles, Ryan McGill, Cam Russell, Brian Dude
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: and Mike Stapleton there was a bunch of guys that
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: were good role players. And then probably forget Warren Reichel,
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: three or four more other guys that you know that
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: went on and and did good jobs for teams because
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: Daryl probably taught them a little bit of selflessness and
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: and being, you know, doing you need to do to
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: help the team win. And so I give you a
• 34:32
  Speaker 7: lot of credit for them.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Those Cetter brothers. You turn around, there's another Cutter brother
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: looking at you.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: After playing with Chicago Brewce, you played three seasons in Italy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are some of your favorite memories of
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: that experience beyond the food.
• 34:45
  Speaker 7: Well, the hockey wasn't I'll say it wasn't much. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: that's no disrespect to the Italians. Just aren't. They're not
• 34:50
  Speaker 7: good hockey players. And I'll tell you why they don't
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: value that. You know, they want to be soccer players
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: or tennis. Yeah, those are the people that the sports
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: that get paid over there. So half the guys that
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: played with how To had a day job. Like my
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: partner on d was a local cop, you know, and
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: Reed Larson was over there with me. His partner was
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: the plumber. So they're working all day. We practiced at
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: six thirty at night. Now, there was a few good
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: players in Milan, like Erry Curry was over there, Mark
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: Naprier and there's some different guys that came over. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: it wasn't like, you know, you know, it wasn't a
• 35:25
  Speaker 7: you know, a you know, intense sort of hockey league.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: There was two really good teams. We were one of
• 35:30
  Speaker 7: the Okay Mountain teams us in Ballsano, but the Milan
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: teams had the most money, so they were able to
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: pay more, and so that part of it was, you
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: know what it was the best part was to see
• 35:39
  Speaker 7: the world because you had some time off, so you'd
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: take a train over to Paris. I'd drive to Munich
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: for October Fest stuff like that. You know that you're
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: not doing over here right now. If you live near
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: New York City or something, you can you know, zip
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: in there. But in general, there's just it was a
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: little more laid back, so you had, you know, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: I saw Rome Venice a number of times. I'd go
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: to so seeing part of the world where probably the
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: best memories. Now we're over there for the Olympics this
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: year in Milan, and you're kind of back at it
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: a little bit but that was a little more. That
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: was obviously a business trip, so not as much getting around.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: But yeah, you know, listen, you made a little more
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: money than you did the miners. Back then, they didn't
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: pay much in the miners. Like there was a right
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: after that when the eye opened up a little bit,
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: they started paying a little more in Vegas. I think
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: it was Vegas, San Diego, some of these bigger markets,
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: the Wolves, Detroit, they started playing the guys a little better.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: But when I was in the miners, you know, it
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: was there was just, you know, less freedom to move around.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: There wasn't there wasn't a whole lot of money being
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: a minor league Ocup player.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: How old was Jerry Curry when he was playing fifty seven?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Did he still was?
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: No, No, he was still good. But I think it
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: was right after so it was ninety two or ninety three.
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: I mean, when did he win his last Cup and
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: did he play in that? Was it eighty eight nine? Yea,
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: So he wasn't that far removed from from winning, so
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: it was obviously still. I thought it was great playing
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: against them. I mean, there's a guy that one of
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: the most under did probably players ever play. I thought
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: it was great.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: A lot in common with that Meanton Inventus.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sure go ahead you yeah, Well I was gonna
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: say that's why I'm like, okay, so Boston. He wanted
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: to be close to the North End, get the pasta
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit of Italy, your three seasons in Italy.
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: But I got I got raised shirt on. He's got
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: a restaurant, I was. It's a great spot.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: So I was doing color for the Sharks and I
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: went to his restaurant. I always go when I'm in town.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: But uh, you know, talking about when you started in Providence,
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: you know you had a young Brad Marshad, But how
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: was that transition for you? Like was it always something
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: in your head when you were playing, and maybe it
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: was the years in Italy and as your career is
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: winding down where you're like, I want to go coach,
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: and and how'd you get that opportunity with the with
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: in Providence? And then also, you know, how was that
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: transition getting a Brad Marchhaan, that's that's so young and
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: you know you're thrown in the mix.
• 38:00
  Speaker 7: Well, you know what's ironic is Nate Thompson was supposed
• 38:03
  Speaker 7: to be on that team and I think he got
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: picked up by the Islanders, so you know, all of
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: a sudden it opens the door for the Marsh. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: there's a kid named Laddie Sabotka was a good little
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: player too, and I think he's back, he's playing in Chechyre.
• 38:17
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Marsh was great. He was a student of
• 38:22
  Speaker 7: the game, the hardest working guy, always the last guy
• 38:25
  Speaker 7: off practice. You know, this guy was not going to
• 38:27
  Speaker 7: be denied through lack of effort. You know, sometimes you
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: just don't have the skill set or whatnot. He found
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: his way up there and worked his way up from
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: the fourth line to the second line to the top line.
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: So good for him. But yeah, that that one came
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: into play. I'd already had a chance in Washington when
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: I was young, and it, you know then, you know,
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: kind of bounced around a bit. So that was the
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: opportunity for me was to get back in it. And
• 38:50
  Speaker 7: Peter Shrelly was a friend of mine from Ottawa, so
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: they were looking for a coach and so I called
• 38:55
  Speaker 7: him up, and you know that that got it going
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: again and it was a good organization for me. It
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: was good timing. I spent a lot of eight years
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: in the miners, there in Providence, thought it, you know,
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: really helped me for the next job in Boston, So
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: it was all worth it in the end. And I
• 39:11
  Speaker 7: enjoyed listen. I enjoyed the teaching part of it. I
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: enjoyed being around the young guys. That's been most of
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: my career there until the last ten years, so I
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: didn't know if i'd get back up or not. And
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: here we are, Bruce.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I want to ask you quickly because you mentioned you know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Brad wouldn't be denied, and you know it's hard to
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: teach guys that work ethic and you know, me not
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: being in a coaches room, how difficult for you is
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: it sometimes to like see a guy that you're coaching
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: and you're like, this guy doesn't even realize how good
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: he can be if he just figures out that part
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: that work ethic and trying to communicate that to them.
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I had a player say that to me once
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: after he's done. He said, I think the problem was
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: you wanted it more than I did, right, And that's
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: that That was a little bit of the dilemma you
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: have as a coach because you want those So for me,
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: being a guy that spent most of my life in
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: the mind or I really like enjoyed seeing a guy
• 40:07
  Speaker 7: make the next step, make a little money, you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: get to the NHL. That's everyone's dream. No one dreams
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: about being a minor league player, right, So you know
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: that that made me feel good. It also helped me.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: You know, Listen, you're a coach. You need to hang
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: your hat on something. You got to win, but in
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: the miners, they don't always have it. You know, you're
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: developing more than winning. So if you can develop players,
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: you can build a reputation as that part of it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: So there was that part in it for the coach,
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: but you know, I more more excited to see the
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: player make it because I went through it. I know
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: the grind of it, and it's not easy to climb
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: over people and be a good teammate in the miners
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: yet outplay the guy beside you, because that's what you
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: essentially got to do to get up. So so that
• 40:47
  Speaker 7: that's the part that I always found challenging is when
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: the player would be like, you know, you don't know
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: how close you are, but if it just and you
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: go through, you went through go through a lot of those.
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: There's still guys I'm sure. In the American League coaches
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: you'd ask them, they'd say the same thing, right, They
• 41:04
  Speaker 7: just they don't want it bad enough, and and eventually
• 41:07
  Speaker 7: that's that's your ticket out because there's a lot of skill.
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: A guy could get drafted first round or second round
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: or down there. There's all kinds of skill around him,
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: and you've got to find a way to kind of
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: step ahead of a guy, and it might be changing
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: your you know, your your game a little bit. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: remember when I was that age. It was Doug Gilmour, right,
• 41:22
  Speaker 7: he was, he was he's a couple of years older
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: than me, but yeah, he's in junior hockey, he's a study,
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: he's the leading scorer, and then he goes to I
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: can't remember his Calgary or Saint Louis, what the order was,
• 41:32
  Speaker 7: but he goes down there and he becomes a fourth
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: line guy and grinds and then all of a sudden
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: he gets you know, he climbs up and he's a
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: first line superstar. So there's a little bit of that
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: in there too. But you know, no one could tell
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: me Killer didn't want it more than the next guy, right,
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: Like his effort was one hundred percent every night. So
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: there's all kinds of those stories, but sometimes it just
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: doesn't translate to the players, and that's the way that goals.
• 41:55
  Speaker 7: You got to move on. I guess it's it's too
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: bad for some of them, but that's that's hockey. That's
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: that's their choice that they end up making.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did.
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: We.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I think we missed each other by minutes, you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: being in Providence the year before we getting picked up
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: off waivers by the Islanders. You might know more than me,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: but I heard that Brad was supposed to join our
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: team in the playoffs the previous season but didn't for whatever,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: for whatever reason. Another guy I wanted to touch on too,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: who I played with that year year before you came in,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: was too Kerask. And you know, we know how competitive
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: he is, and you got to see, I guess, his
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: his temper, his temper flair, and we all know what
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: goes back to when he loses it in that game
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and throws a stick. How were you able to calm
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: this guy down and maybe him, you know, toe the
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: line with you know, being that competitive guy and not
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: losing it at the same time.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was funny. The milk create incident. I was
• 42:50
  Speaker 7: I was you know the dress room probably right. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: was halfway down the hallway in the coach's office and
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: everyone's going bananas. So I missed half of it, but
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: it's out there, you can google it. So but I
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: think once when I had him in Boston, he was
• 43:05
  Speaker 7: a pretty measured guy.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: So he obviously learned that, yes, and he's got passion,
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: he's got fired and you should, right, you'd like to
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: see that out of especially a leadership position like that.
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: So you know, he he learned over the years that
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: you know, there's certain stuff that could probably do and
• 43:20
  Speaker 7: other stuff you'd have to sort of focus, uh and
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: channel that into uh sort of positive energy if you could.
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: But I love Tuca. We're still buddies golf a little
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: bit here and there. I think he was great goalie
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: for Boston. I think the fans I don't think they
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: ever gave him his due there. I think maybe because
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: Timmy Thomas had such a run that year that the
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: standard got set so high. But I thought Tuca was,
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: you know, one of the best in Boston.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Bruce, you're on Team Canna's coaching staff for both Four
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Nations and the Olympics. Three of the four of US
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: are Canadian, So don't hold it against Nate that he's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the lone Yankee here. Can we just admit what a
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: joke the three on three is, like, clearly Cannon is
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: a better team.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: We want to three one.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Bruce would have won.
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's uh, that's a you know, listen, we beat
• 44:04
  Speaker 7: the Checks three on three, right, so and then you
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: you know it's it's I don't remember that, but I
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: do agree with you. They need to find a way
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: to play at least one overtime period. I know that
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: when the questions were asked, it was always, well, they
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: always want the game up against the closing ceremonies, right,
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: they want the game to end then they can start.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: So maybe there's a way to. I mean it's an hour,
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: right extra half a Canadians. Well, for whoever, no one's
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: going to like losing that way. And I guess it's
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: the old it's the same for both teams type of thing.
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: But they should address that. They really should, you know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: just to find a way to because you're right, it
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: is four years four years at work, you know, you
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: think four years at least at least one period of
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: of five on five. And then I guess you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: do what you gotta do.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: Who's the who's the player that impressed you the most
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: that you didn't know and when you were there with
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: Team Canada at the Olympics, and and what can you
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: tell us about him?
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: Well? Then you know the big guys, did There two
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: guys I guess uh Devon T's uh d Man with Colorado,
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: you know, just such a solid player, not a big guy,
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: not flashy, not dynamic, but always in the right spot, smart,
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: makes plays. I think he's the guy that had the
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: open net, didn't it with with Hella Buck making that
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: save in the crease to that one where the kind
• 45:30
  Speaker 7: of stick you know what I mean? And then hegel
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: up front with Tampa. Uh really impressed is more at
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: the Four Nations probably than the Olympics, about how how
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: good a Plury was in all situations. Penalty killer, uh
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: can scores, got pace, got a little grit, good scrap.
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: Last night again too, was it last night he fought again?
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: You know the fight in mar you know against Kachuk.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: So those two guys, because I'm picking more under their
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: I mean, the other guys are you know well talked
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: about the mckinnons and mcdavids, with the Those are probably
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: two guys that maybe you don't realize quite uh, you know,
• 46:09
  Speaker 7: how dynamic they are till you untill you're right there.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: On the coaching staff to Bruce, you know, your coach
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: with Pete de boor Rick Talckett uh and then John Cooper.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: These guys are obviously legendary coaches. Were there different things
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: you took from these guys to uh?
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: For sure? I think Coop is uh such a good
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: speaker in front of the group because timing is always excellent.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: He uses a lot of you know, sort of comparable
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: stories to mix in his message. This smart guy, you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: and and he relates to the player as well. He
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: seems to know what needs to be said at the
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: right time. He's obviously has had tremendous success, you know,
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: with the same group. That's hard to do to hold
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: their attention. So I think he's you know, he's pretty
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: dynamic that way. I love talk talk the details guy,
• 47:05
  Speaker 7: That's what I am. And you know, we talk a
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: lot about different areas of the game. You know, Pete
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: a really good defensive zone structure I think is his
• 47:13
  Speaker 7: strength and PK stuff. He's more on the defensive side
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: of the puck, so you're taking stuff like I like
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: the way our our, my teams, whatever you want to
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: call him, have played zone over the years. I think
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: the numbers support that. But Pete's is interesting. It's a
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: little different, a little more aggressive, and maybe that's something
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: you think down the road. Well, if you want to
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: get away from something, i'd certainly. I don't know if
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: the word is steal from him, because everyone takes it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: It's kind of that league, right, You're always taking something
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: from someone if it's successful. So uh, I he did
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: a real good job with that. David Alexander's a goalie coach.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: He's he's a great guy, hard working, detailed, so it
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: was a great staff. Misha Don Scoff is doing the
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: pre scote. I think he's coaching the World championship team
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: this year for Canada, so had him in Vegas. So
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: I was lucky to be surrounded by guys that all
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: got along and all kind of I don't want to
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: say stated their lane, but knew their role and tried
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: to just support John anyway they could. And I thought
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: we did a good job with her.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: We'll get you out here in a minute, but pretty
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: cool that you get to know Bill Belichick a little
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: bit while you're in Yeah, yes, I mean from Bill Belichick.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was you know what dating advice.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I thought that was coming.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: Put that in my back pocket. He I talked to him. Actually,
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: we had the layoff before the nineteen finals against Saint Louis.
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: We'd we'd swept Carolina, so we had eleven days, so
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: I'd called him because he does that. You know, they
• 48:37
  Speaker 7: used to have the two week prep for Super Bowl,
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: and someone said you should call him. So we had
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: a great chat. I didn't think he was going to
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: get back to me. My phone rings that quarter to
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: eleven at night. I'm not going to answer it, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: I do because it wasn't his number it was and
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: he's like, sorry, Bruce, I'm grinding at PTOs or whatever
• 48:52
  Speaker 7: they're called all day.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: And he got back.
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: We chatted for a good half an hour, just about
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: he's a details guy too, and about how teams often
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: if you're just ready and prepared, they'll beat themselves and
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: situations and just little things like that, and so you
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: kind of remind me about that. With the extra time,
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: make sure you revisit the little things. Maybe face off coverages,
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: et cetera over that time and it just kind of
• 49:17
  Speaker 7: grew from there. We kept in touch over the years
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: and he's a good fellow to talk talk sports with, right,
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: you know, and like I said, I really enjoyed it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: I think he was a rugby guy, if I'm not mistaken,
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: way back when, and obviously he was that sort of
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: team sport to translate to football.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: My one thing that I love that you said there
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: too with Bill is like the details side and being
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: prepared is I love every face off having a plan.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Doesn't matter what zone you're in, neutral zone. Everyone should
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: know loss or when, what's the play, what we're doing.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: And I find the young generation a lot of the
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: young centers now and Nate can talk to this too,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: but like they don't address that at the line. Like
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I played some guys Brad Richardson, and every time we
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: got to the face off was like, what's our details here?
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: What is everybody's job? And then we're ready to go.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: So I feel like that's something that's lost and can
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: be taken a little bit from the football side, where
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: there's always a set play, there's always something being run.
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with you, and we try to, you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 7: give the guys two or three options, and then you
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: know they're they're gonna have to make some decisions on
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: the fly, especially after an icing, right, you can't, you know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: start yelling from the bench to the other end. Hey,
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: so you hope that the center and the detailed control,
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: they're usually the ones that drive that. The dno what
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: pressure is coming at in the center, you know, wants
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: to get his wingers in order. So agree with you
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: one hundred percent. You know every play is valuable, even
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: you know, playoffs, one one missed sort of assignment in
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: the face off in these close games. So you know
• 50:46
  Speaker 7: that that has to be drilled into the players. And
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: that's where your assistant coaches really come in handy, Right,
• 50:50
  Speaker 7: they should have a good sheet when guys come off
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: the ice, what's working, seeing what the other team's doing,
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: if they're adjusting, how they're for check in when you
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: do get your wins or what what plays are running.
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: And there's some teams out there that are like you know,
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: aways thought Dallas was so frigging dangerous when Pavelski was
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: there and playing with Ben Ands again, then they always
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: had two They always had two centermen on every line,
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: one each hand. So you always had to be ready
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: in your di zel for something was coming at you.
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: And you know, a couple of those guys aren't playing now,
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: but I still think they're a strong face off team.
• 51:24
  Speaker 7: But that was a team that always gave you fits
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: last time.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: For me, Bruce, I love the way Butch casting the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Sundance Kids. Sadly we no longer have Paul Newman and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Robert Redford with us. Who was the first one to
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: give you the nickname Butch.
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: Well, it was a guy. His name was Gavin. I
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: forget the last name right now. I was twelve years
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: old and playing. He was the I think the manager
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: of the hockey team. So he comes up to me
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: one day he says, Butch Cat. I didn't know what
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: the hell he was talking about.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I was twelve.
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: I never saw the movie. So my mom's mad because
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: she doesn't like that name. I don't want them to
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: call you, you know. And then someone else came along
• 51:59
  Speaker 7: with hop along. It was I find out it's an
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: old Notre Dame running back or something. So just a
• 52:04
  Speaker 7: young guy. But I'll tell you what I did do.
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: I eventually watched the movie The Ring Dropski fallows ye
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: in my head, that's all I took from the movie
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: there riding around their bikes. So I eventually got to
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: the movie. I enjoyed it, and it's stuck. It's been
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: a long time, so it's almost fifty years now, so
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: what the hell.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Embrace the nickname, embrace the world around your Bruce Castie's
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: had a remarkable career in hockey.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: He will be behind the bench sooner rather than later.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: So enjoy the golf.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Wlay you Cam, Bruce, enjoy those kids in high school,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and enjoy the playoffs.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Man, we'll talk to you soon, all right.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: Thanks, fella's appreciate it.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: We will get to pole position in just a second.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: And thanks once again to Bruce Caside for joining us
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Cinephile and sixty bait is on Amazon Prime.
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• 53:00
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• 53:02
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• 53:22
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• 53:25
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  Speaker 1: thought on Michael, which is the new film opening on
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• 54:12
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• 54:15
  Speaker 1: They do not address at all the major issue of pedophilia.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: So you're gonna do a movie about this guy and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: not put it the fact career was absolutely waylaid by
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: the fact finding never Land was a little more than
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: about finding never Land. If you're following my drift from
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that would make a hard u turn to position, how
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: do we bring this one back? The National Hockeley Player
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Association with was easing the results of their annual players polls.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Take a moment to see what the players think.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Alexander Barkoff Nate named the forward who will be the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: best Demon out of Mitch Marner and Sidney Crosby. Cal
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: mccarr named demon who'd be the best forward? That's pretty
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: straightforward one, Adequin Hughes on Eric Carlson. Both of those
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: guys obviously can fly and Jordan Bennington. I love this one,
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: best puckcailing skills, goalie. I was hoping for Joey Decord
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: former gastire on NHL in scripted and ahead of also
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Egosi historic your thoughts on any of those three, Nate.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I mean I could think of especially the D the
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: D one like best forward. Like I even thought of
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: like Lane Hudson would be a really good forward, right
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: he'd be. Yeah, I mean I'm not mad about it.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, Jordan Bennington he is, and Jordan Baton when
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: he plays well, he's like better with the puck. So
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not mad about these. These are all pretty spot on.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, and He's are voted by the players, so
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: they know more than anybody.
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: They clearly don't because they put William Nielanders most fashionable.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a second.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: You fucking think I'm listening to any one of those
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: guys in the NHL we played with him, Nate, true.
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: I but some of them, dude jiu jitsu.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I think it is so gay they they but like
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: I think they just put down Willie because it's Willy
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: and he's got his own Have.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: You seen Sergachev awful, He's got some he is very
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's terrible.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I think it's terrible. He's all over the map. I
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: mean some days it's okay, but.
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: Other days you're like what the Russians are.
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: He wears like the the high tops, like the fucking
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: almost like the heel boots, the Doc Martin's. He's a
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: wild one. He has his own chickens and everything. Guy's
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: an amazing We gotta go.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: We gotta have some kind of I was talking a
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: boiler about this yesterday. We gotta have some kind of
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: guideline on the like the no dress, it's over the top, yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: Very much.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: I don't like we're in a tie. How about suit,
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: no tie.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: Bring back suit or just have a guideline, just be
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: like professional, Like you can't come in looking like yeah,
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: some guys just coming like a T shirt.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it was me, if when I was
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: in the league and they started trending that way, I
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: just wear sweatpants to the game.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: But sweatpants just might as wear sweatpants. You look like
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: you just you just.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Bed Yeah correct, you just rolled one out in a
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: saria rolling into the rink. Oh you did, jerk off jokes,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: more afraid d David Pasta.
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: You've downgraded to jerk off jokes.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: David Pasha Pasta the best nickname. No mention of Big Dick,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Dan Muse.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Clayton Keller voted best Golfer.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Added g T.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Miaylor and Sam Lafferty and Sydney Crosby vote a player
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: who makes the best coach out of Nick Felino and
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: David Parron as well. Mckainnon voted player the best training regimen.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I added McDavid and La Tang and Abbs leaves best rivalry.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Habbs leaves best this well, yeah, I guess all the time.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Abs leaves Flyers Penguins, Great Bruins Penguins.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: I mean there's a lot of good rivalries right now
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: in the NHL. Tampa Tampa Montreal might be leaves, but you.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Agree on Keller voted best golfer. You're a golf guy.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: You know this. He's I played with him, He's he's
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: on plus plus handicap, right, Yeah.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: He's he's incredible.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he plays like he plays against he plays against
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: like John Rahm and those guys, has like obviously gets strokes,
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: but like has good matches.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: With him wows.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Caesars Arena, by the way, board the best visitors dressing
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: room had a climate Little Caesars, Yeah, very good, Little
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I had a Climate Pledge arena and Delta Center.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: I was not in Climate Pledge or Delta Center. So
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: thanks for rubbing that in Na con confirmed.
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: I was hurt.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: I was hurt the year that the team went to Seattle,
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: So I didn't I haven't.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: Seen talking about jerk Off stories now here rubbing salt
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: in the woodsky too?
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: How about this not doing his research?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: Houston borde of the city they'd like to see an
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: NHL expansion team, bull it should be Quebec.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: City in Atlanta.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Well, Quebec I think was two though no Quebec was two.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: Atlanta was third, but number one Houston, Okay.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: With that j D. Yeah, I mean I'd love Quebec.
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: But you know, I was having a conversation with Steve
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Conroy and my dad was in town actually for his
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: birthday last week. Toe We brought him to the studio
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: birthday and they just don't happy birthday, pops. And they
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: just don't have the corporate sponsorships enough.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Billionaire, did a billionaire?
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: Well, they need a.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Lot of corporate sponsorships, and there's just not enough industry there,
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: I think to support it.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: I think Houston would be great.
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Great rivalry with Dallas helps, with Colorado helps in the central.
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: It's easy, except ability to get up north to play.
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: You know, Edmonton and Winnipeg. Aren't you tired of Atlanta?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Would you give Atlanta one more chance of now? Been there,
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: done that?
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: I was just there. It's the worst traffic on the
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: planet earth.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: It is horrific traffic.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Slip my and I can't say that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: One more for both to get No, we don't have suicide.
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  Speaker 1: Montreal voted Montreal voted best ice night out of Edmonton
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  Speaker 1: and Winnipeg.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: I thought Edmonton best ice. People love the ice there.
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  Speaker 5: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought Winnipeg would be number one, but I guess
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's always the Canadian cities have the best ice.
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  Speaker 5: I never loved the Montreal ice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shocked at that one too. I was
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: usually Edmonton and Winnipeg was the best, and mind they
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  Speaker 3: put Montreal, so maybe maybe they've stepped their game up
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: in the ice conditions.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: I love Florida BB and Te Center.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: As JD mentioned earlier when he voted most fashionable.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I had a passak and Austin Matthews, So Austin one
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: of your guys that was at least in the top three.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Some other notes to clean it up Macklin cell Brandy
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: being Joe Thornton, Sharks franchise point mark one hundred and fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: J D still only nine teen years of.
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  Speaker 5: Age, and n happened like six weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: Well but JD tal just want to put these in
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  Speaker 1: here because we haven't wrapped it up since the last
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: we were on. So okay, McDavid gets a sixth art
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  Speaker 1: Ross Trophy, that's the second most mind Gretzky ties Mario
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: and Gordi Howe, and McKinnon wins the Rocket Rashard Trophy
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  Speaker 1: fifty three goals, but also ninety seven even strength points
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  Speaker 1: in eighty games. That's the highest total for a season
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  Speaker 1: since Gretzky had one of the three even strength points
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety. So all those three McLean Celebrady McDavid,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: sixth art Ross, McKinnon Rocket Reshard.
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  Speaker 2: Which one stands out to you, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, Celebrini, especially when you get a nod from Joe Thornton,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: which he's supposed to be his landlord and he's just
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: out no shirt on somewhere on a beach. Should you
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: be making him dinner, pregame or postgame?
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  Speaker 7: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Macklin, what he did this season, second year,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: it's absolutely incredible. He's he's gonna win an art Ross
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: one of these years. I still think that we're putting
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: too much emphasis on making the playoffs for like a
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: heart trophy, when the actual definition of it is most
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: valuable to your team. I know that we put a big,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: big price tag on making the playoffs. So but yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: I thought he's should have some heart votes. Incredible, incredible kid,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: incredible person. So yeah, celebrating Nate for you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with JD on this one. It's I mean, just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: being nineteen years old and doing what he did. I
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: mean not just the NHL, but I mean, I know
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: the Olympics doesn't count, but like, I mean, everything he
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: did for San Jose. And I agree with JD too.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: I think that you know you have that many points
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: that you're nineteen, and there's that big of a gap
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: of points on your team where it was like fifty
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: points the next closest guy. I mean, that's your MVP
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: and that's that's the most impressive for me.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: That's a nice gap. That is, as we like to say,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: I got a nice gap and a couple.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: More to closings off.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Flowers is the Dan o'chara Boston legend. Gotta be the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: most fit retired athlete of the planet. On Monday, the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: former Bruins captain the starting pistol one hundred and thirtieth
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Boston Marathon, then ran the race for the third straight year.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Nate big Z' is a better shape than half the league.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: Yes he is. He's a better shape than each specimen.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: He's an absolute specimen. I got to witness it when
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: I was with the Bruins and training camp and he
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: came in as a free agent's first year, and this
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: guy ripped off thirty three pull ups and and didn't
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: even flinch. And I'm not talking pull ups where you're
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: you know, barely, you know, kind of all the way
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: like he was going all the way down. And the
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: strength coach at the time he would count guys pull
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: ups and he'd be like one, one, one, because you're
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: not going all the way down. Big Z ripped off
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: thirty three and the whole camp was watching. Everyone was
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: all around. Watching this guy ripping off thirty three pull
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: ups was insane. So uh yes, he is the best
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: conditioned guy in the world.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: Jesus, Yeah, this is this is the picture of them.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: Look at that. Yeah, and uh it's not.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Skipping like day.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Let me tell you that.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Right now he's ready to rock.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: I know he's probably still lifting and doing everything else too.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: He's got Cole Bruins on it.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: No Bruins, I mean we had we had the same
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: agent too, Matt Cater and uh just this guy. You
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: have Mat Cater Mat Cater cater.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Club, cater Club, cater Club.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: All right, Cater, Well, one last time we have to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: shut out.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Why at Russell flowers to him?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Our friend came on a few weeks ago mentioned he
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: had bet earlier this season there was no way the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Sabers would make the playoffs. We know what happened for
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: that judors were the actor Chugg Date Lake our beverage
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: of a Saber cup and sprinted into Lake Erie.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Uh nay, this is your boy, Why Russell loves you?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: This is great, This was awesome. The best though, was
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: the post I know you guys saw it from Kurt
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: Russell and and talking and kind of throwing him under
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: the bus and tell them, hey, you better get ready
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: for this cold, cold water coming. Yeah, it was awesome,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: and why uh that was that was fun having him on.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: Guy doesn't like to talk at all, so it was
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: it was he was a great guy. Well what would
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: you take?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: Would you take? Would you take freezing waters of Lake Erie?
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Or asking why Russell question.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: I'll take the freezing water. I'll just go ahead and watch.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: I'm fucking in the head first in that freezing water.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: I tell you that much. My buddy from home actually
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: texts me after he's listening to the pot and he goes,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: holy fake quiet, like that's a lot. I love it.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: He went on the empty he went on the empty
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: netters and uh, I texted the guys said i'd you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: like him?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: And again, why was amazing?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: Such a good dude, so thoughtful, the way he spoke
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: and yeah, the way he you know, talked about his
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: career and also talked about everything and was so indire
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: party get cheated, but he no, he he's getting in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: a word, He's getting in all the words he's expecting.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: And I asked empty and editors guys like, how was it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: They're like Oh, he's awesome, incredible, and I was like, uh,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: I was like, we asked him two questions and we're
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: twenty two minutes into the interview and they were like, yeah,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: They're like, he he likes to he likes he likes
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: to get his he likes to cover all the basest job.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: But I'm a fan of his noble work.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: By tal that interview ran fifty seven minutes and Edward
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: scissorhands over here chopped it down the thirty seven snip snap,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: we could have a two part episode instead tells you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: With no problems too.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: It's easy, easy, we should have.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Well, no two part interview and we're not going twice
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: a week, but we continue to HL Unscripted. We'll see
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you next week as the playoffs will develop much much further.
• 1:05:52
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• 1:05:57
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