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Faith in the Waiting: Purpose, Prayer, and Preparation with Tymel Cason · Rise and Thrive with Dr. J. Nicole Podcast

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  Welcome to Rise and Thrive with Doctor J Nicole.
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  Today we're going to be talking with a wonderful guest.
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  Her name is Taimel Katzen. She's a fellow social worker and
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  she is a board approved licensed clinical social worker.
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  To be exactly going to put some respect on that.
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  She's currently serving as a program manager for CFSA, which
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  is Child and Family Services agency.
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  She earned her bachelor's degree and master's degree in social
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  work from Temple University and Catholic University of America,
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  respectively. In the last 12 years, her
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  professional experience has included serving families in the
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  child welfare system and with significant mental health
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  disorders and hospital and community outpatient setting.
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  As her passion continues to grow and serving children and
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  families, she founded Grit and Grace Wellness LF, which aims at
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  providing services and supporting individuals
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  emotional, mental, spiritual and financial health.
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  Thank you so much for being here today.
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  Thank. You for having me, thank you so
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  much. And I'm always happy to have
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  another social worker in the room with me.
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  And I think it is a duty to speak up for social work so that
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  people understand, like while you do work with children and
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  families, we're not just the people that come and take your
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  kids. You know, that is a common
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  misconception. I.
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  Think that is one of the biggest annoyances about social work is
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  that most people don't know what social workers do.
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  And they think that most social workers take kids away, which I
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  really wish that could be a different reframe too, because
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  you know, most social workers don't take kids away.
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  And then also, if your child is not safe because they have been
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  physically abused, sexually abused, or neglected, why can't
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  we reframe that to making the child safe and social workers
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  coming in to provide that level of safety and comfort?
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  Love that. And Speaking of, tell us a
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  little bit about what you do in your role.
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  So I am a program manager. I work in in DC child and Family
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  Services agencies, foster care and adoption unit.
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  So I manage a program for out of home use as well as youth that
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  are in the process of becoming adopted.
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  So these are children that have already been separated from
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  their families. And our goal is to try to get
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  them back with their, their their family, whether it's their
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  their parent or another caregiver, the reunification,
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  guardianship or adoption when that's possible.
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  So I will receive those programs.
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  Yes, thank you so much for that work that you do in helping get
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  families together, reunite families.
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  That's so very important and help people even establish
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  family and get to experience family because sometimes
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  different circumstances don't allow for us to have our
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  traditional family experience. So so thank you.
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  Thank you for that. Thank you so much.
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  Yeah. So today we're going to be
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  talking about when the waiting season feels like forever yes,
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  this is one of the hardest parts of faith.
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  Like let's not let's let's keep it real right?
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  Like waiting is one of the hardest parts about it yes.
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  So whether we're waiting for a breakthrough relationship,
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  healing, or clarity on your purpose, the in between season
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  can feel endless. So just because you don't see
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  the movement, it doesn't mean that God isn't working.
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  In this episode, we're going to explore how to navigate the
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  waiting season without losing faith and why waiting is often
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  preparation and refinement for greater things and how to shift
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  from frustration to trusting God.
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  All right, well, let's get into it, sis.
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  Let's. Get into it.
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  Why do you think God makes us wait?
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  Oh, I think some of it is what you already said, right?
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  It's it's building. It's building character,
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  character development, but also just preparing us for something
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  greater than what we can see. And I think a lot of times when
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  we're in those moments of waiting, I know for me, I feel
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  like I'm being hidden. And it reminds me, it reminds me
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  of a book that I received and that I tried to read every
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  couple of years and I in the process of rereading it now
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  called Anonymous. And the book is about Jesus's
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  hidden years and yours and how a lot of times people focus on,
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  you know, Jesus's birth and then Jesus's death and resurrection.
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  But there was almost 2 decades in between of him being hidden.
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  And just because it's hidden, does it mean that it's not
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  important? Does it mean that it doesn't
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  mean anything? And I think when we look at
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  ourselves, can we compare ourselves to Christ in that way,
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  right? Like just because we are in a
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  season of waiting or we're in a season of being hidden, does
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  that mean that we're less important or our life isn't
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  important? You know, I think that every,
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  every part of our life should be like the main course, right?
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  Like it shouldn't just be. It's like, OK, you know?
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  I can let you go past that bar. She's every part of our life
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  should be the main course Now that's a refrain for the for the
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  ages. Listen, every day is a main
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  course here for it. Yeah, I mean, because I, I think
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  that, you know, when you're waiting, you don't think that
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  it's, it's, it's great or it's, it's, it's the, your, your
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  thinking it's the small piece or you're thinking it's the
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  insignificant part. And it's like, no, no part of
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  your life is insignificant, right?
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  Like every part is the main part.
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  Yeah, and I heard somebody say recently she heard this at
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  church. When you're in a waiting season,
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  do what waiters do, serve. That was so good.
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  And I was like, you know what? It's bars just coming from
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  everywhere and it's very easy to digest.
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  Excuse me. Thank you for sharing this book,
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  Anonymous. And I think it's no mistake that
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  we're recording today and it is the day before Resurrection Day.
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  Yes, sharing that. And I love the timing.
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  Even though this will air later, we still know that the Spirit is
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  right now in this room. Absolutely.
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  And I got a soul ahead of myself.
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  I forgot to even for us to pray before we got started.
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  So I would like to pause and do a quick prayer.
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  Dear Heavenly Father, we come to you today.
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  Lord, we thank you for bringing timel here, Lord, to talk about
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  you and the things that you're doing in her life and things
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  that she's observed. Lord, we are here to give you
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  glory. Father, we ask that you shrink
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  us and amplify yourself, Lord, and allow the Holy Spirit to
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  guide this conversation, Lord, and that it touched in the the
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  hearts and minds and ears of those that you are calling home
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  to you, Lord. So thank you for allowing us to
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  be best and we just we thank you for fellowship, sister ship
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  connection and being able to do so in your name, in Jesus name
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  we pray in. Jesus name Amen.
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  Thank you for that. Perfect.
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  Prayer. Well, I got hype.
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  I'd be and I'm like, no, we got to go back.
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  We got to slow it down with waiting.
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  I love, love what you said about being hidden right.
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  Like that is such a thing and a lot of people don't understand
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  that because we are not meant for everyone and everything.
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  And in a society that says, right now, look at me, we think
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  we're ready. You know, it's really hard to
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  reframe that in a positive way and to know that you're not
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  being punished, you're not being overlooked.
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  Is that you? Just like, you gotta let God
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  cook. He's still.
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  And that's sometimes you don't even recognize it yourself,
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  right? Like, like I said, I was going
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  through the motions and then I just, I got this book and I'm
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  reading it and I'm like, OK, I never even thought of it this
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  way. Like my my in years is something
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  to be to brag about or it's it's a main course.
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  It's something to to feel greatness about.
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  So I think sometimes, excuse me, you just you don't realize it
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  yourself. Sometimes you have to have other
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  people or other influences and say no, no, no, like this is
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  this is greatness where you are like your whole life means
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  something. Not just the parts that people
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  can see, or the parts that you know you think should be
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  glorified, but like some of those hidden times too.
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  Absolutely. And sometimes when we like, want
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  platform and purpose without preparation, it could be more of
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  a burden than the blessing to you and all of the folks that
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  it's for. Because, you know, purpose is
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  not just for us. Yes.
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  Yeah, yeah. So tell me what you think the
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  difference and you're getting to this, but I want to hear a
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  little more about it. The difference between not yet,
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  not right now and I think no. Is just know like finality, I
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  think not yet is this God in motion.
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  And you know, like my family says sometimes like behind the
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  scenes, you know, like you know, when there's something going on
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  and it's like, well, why didn't show up?
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  But why does behind the scenes is some stuff you all knows is
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  that's going on as you know, that's happening behind the
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  scenes. And I think that's what God does
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  too, especially for the not yet. It's like, OK, we're waiting.
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  God is saying yes, but not yet. I'm working out some stuff, I'm
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  doing some stuff. You have to prepare some stuff.
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  You have to build your character.
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  You have to build, you know, your resistance or your
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  resilience. And sometimes it's, we get in
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  our own way. And when we're, when we're just
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  trying to like make things happen faster than it should,
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  when God is like, I'm saying, yes, but I'm saying not yet, not
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  yet, Just wait, you're not ready.
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  And I, I read something recently that said we don't have enough
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  character resilience. We don't have enough anything to
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  walk through doors that we opened ourselves and so we have
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  to wait. We have to wait.
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  Yeah, so I'm hearing timing right.
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  God's perfect timing and trusting his timing.
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  Excuse me, it's also God. Don't need our help opening
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  doors and we really, we really do just need to sit back and let
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  him do his thing. And it's so hard, especially
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  when we feel like we're so close.
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  But we also have to understand with all of our might, that does
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  not even compare to God's little at all.
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  It does not. And so thank you for affirming
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  that right. And reframing that like, you
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  know, sometimes we do need to be behind the scenes and that that
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  that preparation is essential. Yeah, and I and I think too,
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  when we when we do kind of try to help out God, we end up
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  making a mess. Like when I think about like
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  Sarah from the Bible, right. And it's like, oh, alright,
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  Sarah, you, you old woman, you're trying to have a baby.
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  God told you that's what that's what he promised.
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  Not yet he that's what he promised though.
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  You know, that's what he said. But you're like, alright, well,
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  I'm just going to help out guys open.
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  Just have my, my maid servant give my maid servant to my
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  husband. Well, you helping out without
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  God didn't turn out the way that you thought it would.
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  And so it really was a disaster. I mean, it had resentment, their
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  bitterness. And then it just ended up
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  causing a lot more chaos than what she anticipated because she
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  wanted to help out God and was like, well, this is what God
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  wanted and that's not what he wanted.
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  And I think it goes back to what I was saying, that she did not
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  have enough of whatever was needed for her to open that door
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  on her own. She had to wait on God.
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  There's so much in that story with Sarah and Abraham because 1
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  you know, she wasn't really helping God.
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  That was for her, that was for what she needed, right?
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  But like we, we are calling her that for the sake of how we're
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  framing it, right? So she wanted what she wanted,
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  and she thought she wanted it then and that she could do it,
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  and that God wasn't going to deliver.
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  But then also, when we try to rush, we do indeed make a mess.
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  And even though we make those messes, God still keeps his
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  promises. He still kept his promise.
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  Yeah, they got their baby boy. Yeah.
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  Something earlier that you said that I almost forgot about is
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  letting go of resistance. Talk about why that letting go
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  of resistance is so important in the waiting season.
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  Oh, I think it's important because it's not going to, it's
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  nothing good is going to come of it if you just keep it in right.
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  You know, letting go of resistance, letting go of just
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  anything that's going to be in the way of you pursuing what God
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  has for you. Like if you're holding on to
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  things, whether it's that, whether it's resentment, whether
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  it's bitterness, it's only going to be a setup for your own
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  negative downfall, right? So I think you have to.
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  You have to. Yeah, it's essential, right?
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  To really and truly let him do his work.
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  OK, so like we said, the waiting season can be challenging,
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  right? So how do we handle
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  disappointment when it seems that our prayers are unanswered?
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  Well, first I think people need to know how they hear from God.
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  That's number one. Because sometimes you don't, or
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  you hear, you think you heard that God said one thing and you
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  really did not hear him say that.
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  Because you don't even know how God speaks to you.
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  You don't know if God speaks to you using his voice.
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  You don't know if God speaks to you through other people.
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  You don't know if God speaks to you through dreams.
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  So that's one thing. And then two, you might have too
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  many distractions in your life to even actually hear a word
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  from God. You know, like you're consumed
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  with the TV, you're consumed with social media, you're
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  consumed with vices, whatever the case may be.
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  And so you think you heard God say one thing, you think you
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  heard a confirmation from someone, but really it wasn't
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  God. And so you have all that.
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  You're holding on to all of these disappointments because
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  you think that God said this, God said that when it's like,
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  well, no, that's not even according to his word, you know,
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  So I think, I think sometimes we have to really, we have to know
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  how God speaks to us to know that if God is really saying
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  that or if God really said no, or if he said really said yes,
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  if he really said not yet, what does he actually say?
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  And is it according to his word, which we know is truth and it's
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  not going to lie and. It's not confusion.
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  Right, exactly. So I think that dealing with
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  disappointment first has to, there has to be a, a way for
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  people to know how they hear from God, to know like if God is
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  really saying that. So I think that's the first
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  thing. Yes.
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  And who's the biggest thing? That's so, so good.
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  I'm hearing so much accountability that's in there,
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  right? Like that.
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  We really need to examine ourselves.
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  We really need to check ourselves.
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  So number one, you're like, do you even know how he
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  communicates with you? Like what is the voice of God?
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  Have you even heard it? Or has he been trying to reach
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  you and you've not been paying attention, listening, watching,
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  like all of those things? Because you're absolutely right.
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  Like he communicates in so many different ways.
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  I know even with me, he's come through my screen.
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  I've heard him audibly. I felt the wind blow.
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  Like it's just. But if when you really tap in,
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  it's all around you. He's always communicating with
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  us. And it's not always the big
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  grand, like burning Bush or the voice coming out of the clouds,
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  right, like in the Bible. Like, sometimes it's the subtle
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  things, like how the ram appeared when they were going
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  up, you know, up the mountain to sacrifice.
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  Or at least that's what he thought he was doing.
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  Yeah. So I love that.
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  Yeah. And I think sometimes, too, it's
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  communication that you're not always thinking of in that
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  moment. Like you might be thinking, when
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  I hear from God, I'm going to be hearing this.
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  And it's like God might not say that in that moment.
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  He might be talking about something else.
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  He might be trying to get you to leave your house because there's
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  a fire about to happen or, you know, warning you about
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  something. Or just maybe he just wants to
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  talk to you because he just wants you to be his friend, you
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  know? And I think sometimes too, like
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  we get so caught up. I know I speak for myself too.
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  I'm like, I don't know if I want to hear God's voice.
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  I don't know. I don't know if I'm going to
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  hear him speak to me because I feel like he might tell me
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  something I don't want to do. And I'm like, I'm already doing
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  things I don't want to do God, I don't want to have to do
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  something else. And then you hear, you hear a
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  word or you hear confirmation or you hear his voice and you're
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  like, oh, like I totally misjudged that.
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  That's not even what that was about.
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  And I think I'm always, you know, challenging myself that it
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  doesn't have to look the way that I'm, I think it looks.
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  Yeah, so you're essentially describing letting go of the
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  how. And it also makes me think about
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  when Jesus came in on the donkey, right.
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  They said that it had been written that the king was going
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  to come and he was riding on the donkey, and everybody was
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  expecting this great warrior and all these things, and no, come
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  on a donkey. Not a horse, a donkey.
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  And people had a hard time with that.
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  Yeah. Yep, Yep.
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  OK, so now let's get into this because I think this, excuse me,
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  allergies are trying to win today.
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  I know this. They've been horrible lately.
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  And you know, that's what comes with springtime.
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  So I'm gonna be thankful because I asked her this.
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  They just go back to the things you know, being grateful for
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  what you asked for. Yes, minutes to kick in.
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  So let's talk about this issue of comparison.
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  This is something that a lot of people deal with it.
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  For some people, it plagues them, right?
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  Just like comparison and watching others get what you've
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  been praying for, like what can you give to our audience to
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  really help them process that or even share your experiences with
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  them? I mean, I think what someone has
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  shared with me years ago, I would say today comparison is a
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  thief of joy. That has been proven to be the
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  case in my life over and over and over again.
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  I feel like when you have that, when you have the ability to let
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  go of comparing yourself to other people, other
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  relationships, other situations, financial situations, whatever
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  the case is, it is so much freedom in that it's like you
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  can just live a life of just in content with who you are and
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  what you have. And I think there's so much just
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  bitterness and jealousy in comparing your life to someone
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  else's. And I think ultimately too, you
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  know, people only see one side of things, whether whether the
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  glory of all of that and they don't see the hard work that
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  went into getting what someone else has or the other side is
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  you could be comparing yourself to a situation or someone else
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  and it's not really what is portrayed.
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  You know, whether it's marriages or or kids, you know, obviously
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  those are always blessings. But you know, sometimes people
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  can just be really having such a hard time in both of those
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  situations and you never know what.
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  What really you're, you're being jealous of or you're coveting
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  because you're only focused on what they have over there and
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  what I don't have, you know, or they have all this money, but
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  they didn't see what they did to get to it or what work they had
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  to, to put into making their business a success.
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  They just see the end result and think, OK, well, you know, if
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  they got it, why can't I have it or I need to have this?
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  And it's like, no, but I, I have found that it's so much peace
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  when you have let go of just just being content with what you
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  have and who you are. Yeah, and I'll add to that
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  gratitude, right, because comparison is focusing on lack.
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  That's a lack mindset and what you don't have.
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  And there's so much more to be grateful for.
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  And when you operate in gratitude that calls more into
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  you, that's putting that energy out.
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  And I think that's also a signal to God of your maturity too,
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  right, That I into and and that is not not just about the
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  material, right, because that is a lot of what happens with
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  comparison is the material. And there are some people they
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  doing some strange things to get you.
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  Not saying what was that from strange, but some strange people
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  are doing things that you will probably never to get it.
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  And it's just all a matter of time.
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  And so it's just really, really important to have gratitude and
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  that that joy like comparison is indeed the thief of joy.
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  And I love what you said there about gratitude because I think
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  that is so important. I think people often don't,
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  they're not appreciative of what they have.
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  They're not just the small things that really are not
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  small, like the the literal fact that we woke up this morning,
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  right? Huge.
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  And so many people didn't, you know, like that is a reason to
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  be thankful. That's a reason to thank God.
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  The fact that we're in this situation.
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  I can hear you, I can see you. You know, I have all my
• 22:16
  faculties. That is a blessing.
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  I I could be great. I could be grateful for just
• 22:21
  that. I don't necessarily have to
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  you're when you're content, when you're content with what you
• 22:27
  have, you don't have to be, you don't have to covet someone else
• 22:30
  that they have more. Well, I'm like, I have what I
• 22:32
  need. My bills are paid.
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  I have a a job. Thank God in this climate, you
• 22:36
  know, I have opportunities. And I think that when you focus
• 22:41
  on just being grateful for what you have, it just really changes
• 22:45
  your perspective. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
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  Alright, so another hot button issue, temptation and you know,
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  being tempted to force outcomes instead of trusting God timing
• 23:05
  and like that temptation can look like a lot of things
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  depending on what you're praying and waiting on.
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  So how do you avoid that? I hate it.
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  I'm just joking. I think you just really
• 23:20
  temptation is it's always going to be there.
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  I think that you really have to be intentional about striving to
• 23:27
  live a life like Christ. Do I get it right all the time?
• 23:30
  No. Do I strive all the time?
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  Yes. And I think to not really
• 23:35
  listening to people that make you feel bad about not doing
• 23:40
  something that is sinful or that is going to be contrary to your
• 23:44
  destiny, right, trying to pull you into sin or making you feel
• 23:48
  bad about, you know, not participating in certain things.
• 23:52
  I live my life in a way where I really strive for holiness.
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  And you know what I what I have also taken I, I, I guess I, I've
• 24:02
  taken the school of thought is that holiness is my pleasure and
• 24:06
  I am going to it. It's it's, it's, it's a desire
• 24:10
  for me. It's I'm, I'm pleasured by the
• 24:12
  fact that I am striving for holiness.
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  It's a ask. Can you find pleasure in
• 24:17
  holiness? And you went there.
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  Love it. Yes, yes, I, I want to, I want
• 24:23
  to, I want to be like Christ. It's not, it's not like, oh,
• 24:27
  well, you can't do this or you can't.
• 24:29
  You know, you, you know, you're, you don't drink and you don't do
• 24:32
  this and you don't whatever the case is like, OK, that's fine
• 24:37
  because holiness is my pleasure. But I want to do these things.
• 24:42
  I want to strive for holiness. I want to strive to be a good
• 24:45
  person. I want to be a compassionate
• 24:47
  person. It's my pleasure, you know, and
• 24:50
  I think, I think when you really have that perspective, it
• 24:54
  changes your, your desire to just really seek temptation.
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  You know it it it helps you to not really fall in the traps of
• 25:07
  temptation. Yeah, yeah, That's so good, So
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  good. There's so much goodness in
• 25:14
  there. And I was like, there are things
• 25:15
  I wanted to say, but I just got wrapped up like you.
• 25:18
  You gave me other points, but I was like, oh, this is good.
• 25:21
  And really seeking pleasure like holiness and holiness and how
• 25:26
  that really does make it easier to operate in like price
• 25:31
  character, like that's what you want to do.
• 25:33
  And you don't have a problem because you know who you are.
• 25:38
  You know who you are and you know what you're doing.
• 25:40
  You're standing on business, as they say, right?
• 25:43
  And tell Santa, cancel down. Absolutely.
• 25:48
  And you just made me think about an experience that I had
• 25:52
  recently where a person was trying to approach me and they
• 25:54
  were offering me sin or sin. And I was like, no thanks.
• 25:58
  Sin or sin what? It's like both of the options.
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  I was like, no, I'm good bro. You know, someone told me one
• 26:05
  time like, OK, we all sin, but you just gotta choose your sins
• 26:08
  wisely. And I was like, OK.
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  I mean, I know Christ came and died for us, but we don't have
• 26:13
  get out of sin free cards like for real, like yes, we do have
• 26:16
  repentance and we're not supposed to be like I'm use this
• 26:20
  what the day ever use like no. Yeah.
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  OK, all right, so let's talk a little bit about strengthening
• 26:31
  your faith in the waiting, right?
• 26:33
  So how? Let's talk about how to stand.
• 26:36
  How do you stand courage? Or for our listeners, how to
• 26:40
  help them stay encouraged if they feel they're feeling
• 26:42
  forgotten. One community.
• 26:45
  I think it's really important to have a community of believers
• 26:50
  that around you because if you are down and out about
• 26:54
  something, if you're feeling discouraged about waiting or
• 26:57
  about anything else, you know, sometimes it's, it's, it's it's
• 27:01
  kind of productive to reach out to someone that really is going
• 27:04
  to kind of just be downright with you or not give you any
• 27:08
  encouragement or not give you anything that's based
• 27:11
  biblically. So I think it's really important
• 27:13
  to have a community of believers that can, that can, you know,
• 27:17
  kind of encourage you and help you get through that difficult
• 27:20
  time. I think that also having a
• 27:23
  community allows you to see what someone else is going through
• 27:30
  and can relate to what you're and that can relate to what
• 27:33
  you're going through. You know, like if you just kind
• 27:35
  of just stick to yourself and keep your problems to yourself
• 27:39
  or, you know, don't share anything, sometimes you miss
• 27:43
  like the opportunity for someone else to be a blessing to you by
• 27:47
  just sharing their story. Like, Oh yeah, I went through
• 27:49
  that. I got through that.
• 27:51
  Let me tell you how I did it. Let me tell you know, read this
• 27:54
  scripture, meditate on this, you know, and I think that's really,
• 27:58
  really important. And that's definitely something
• 28:00
  that I have or whether it's my family, my friends, my my
• 28:04
  colleagues, it's really important to have, especially
• 28:06
  when you're going through something really challenging.
• 28:09
  Love that. And since you're saying that, I
• 28:11
  was like, let me find some scriptures that support that
• 28:13
  because community is Bible, right?
• 28:16
  There's a lot of examples that are in here, even just that go
• 28:19
  with what you said. Galatians 62 carry each other's
• 28:22
  burdens and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ,
• 28:26
  right? So that's talking about that
• 28:27
  shared experience that people are having and that they can
• 28:30
  help you get through it. Also like this one too, Acts 2,
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  44 through 47, all the believers were together and had everything
• 28:39
  in common. They broke bread in their homes
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  and ate together with glad and sincere hearts.
• 28:44
  And the Lord added to their number daily those who were
• 28:48
  being saved. Right.
• 28:50
  So there's so many things to support what we're saying and
• 28:53
  how to live like Christ, but we're not in the book.
• 28:57
  Yeah, I'm guilty of it. I'm like, I've been in it like
• 29:02
  more lately and I've been like the Bible so good like before.
• 29:06
  Everything that you need is right there it really.
• 29:08
  Is and I always heard that, but I just think in terms of like
• 29:12
  cognitive, like learning, like what age, when you know where
• 29:15
  you are, how you understand and interpret things, but then also
• 29:19
  having lived experiences to go with it and it just completely
• 29:23
  changes the context. It does.
• 29:25
  And I think that's happened to me throughout the years too.
• 29:27
  You know, when I've been reading the Bible when I was like a
• 29:29
  teenager, then in college and then now, and I'm like, I could
• 29:32
  read the same scripture all throughout those different times
• 29:35
  in my life and it means something different each time.
• 29:39
  Lived experience is definitely it.
• 29:42
  It just adds to a perspective of scriptures of life that I just
• 29:46
  didn't have before. Yeah, it definitely enhances it
• 29:50
  and that's why they say train them up in the way, right?
• 29:53
  And you know what to do then. So we talked a little bit about
• 29:56
  gratitude. So.
• 29:57
  But let's talk about that in conjunction with prayer and
• 30:01
  community and how those sustain faith.
• 30:04
  Absolutely. I mean prayer me and prayer like
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  this. I, I don't do anything without
• 30:09
  praying. I pray over everything, hard
• 30:11
  things, small things. I'm like, Lord, I need a
• 30:14
  parking. I need a parking spot.
• 30:15
  Can you, can you open one up for me, please?
• 30:17
  And then literally one will open up.
• 30:20
  I thought. Me, I thought.
• 30:23
  No, no, no, I, I love, love prayer.
• 30:26
  And one of the things that I've learned too is like prayer is
• 30:29
  just a conversation. And you know, you don't have to
• 30:32
  be deep and, you know, speaking in tongues because I don't
• 30:35
  really do that, but I'm just like, I, I just need to talk to
• 30:39
  God. I need, I need to get this off
• 30:40
  my chest. I need to talk to God and I need
• 30:42
  to figure out what God wants me to do.
• 30:44
  And you know, I'll be led to a scripture and I'm like, OK, God,
• 30:47
  I, I got you. That's that's why I needed,
• 30:50
  that's why I need to go. But I think that prayer really,
• 30:54
  really guides my life and my practice and I really, truly
• 30:58
  believe, excuse me, that God hears my prayers.
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  I remember, I laugh about it now, excuse me, but I was in
• 31:07
  this ministry, this woman's ministry called Queen Esther.
• 31:13
  I was, I was talking. So two things.
• 31:15
  I was talking about something that I was, I was praying about
• 31:19
  and I was just like, you know, I just don't, I don't feel like
• 31:22
  praying for this person because they're not acting right.
• 31:24
  And I mean, I feel like my prayers wasted.
• 31:27
  So as I thought my prayers wasted, you know, I'm over there
• 31:31
  praying for this person and then they just not doing what they're
• 31:33
  supposed to do. And, you know, I was really
• 31:36
  convicted in that moment. Well, because my, my sisters in
• 31:41
  the ministry were just, you know, they pointed out some
• 31:43
  things like you're doing, you're praying not because you're
• 31:47
  praying because it's required of you and because this is what
• 31:51
  you're supposed to be doing. Regardless of what you see,
• 31:55
  regardless of what you think should be happening right now.
• 31:58
  Again, it's the not yet or the no, regardless of all of that,
• 32:02
  you still have to do what you are supposed to do.
• 32:06
  So like, it doesn't matter if the person has changed.
• 32:09
  It doesn't matter if you're not seeing anything right now.
• 32:13
  You still have to pray. And, you know, and then I think
• 32:16
  the, the other take away for them was I was like, you know,
• 32:18
  my prayers mean something. You know, I'm over here praying
• 32:21
  to God and I know I'm getting a pray through.
• 32:23
  I know I can get a pray through. And you know, they over here,
• 32:25
  you know, doing whatever. And so I think it was a, it was
• 32:30
  a take away for them and for me, like, gosh, like I really do
• 32:33
  know that my prayers get answered and they, you know, and
• 32:36
  they mean something. So like if I'm not getting an
• 32:38
  immediate result at that time then it's a no or it's a not
• 32:41
  yet. And when we were speaking,
• 32:44
  'cause I hearing music sometimes, too, and I heard I
• 32:47
  got a seed in the ground. Is that is that William Murphy?
• 32:54
  I think it is. I think it is, yeah.
• 32:57
  So it's like, yeah, So your prayers on the ground.
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  But I was like, before we get lost in the song, I will go
• 33:05
  there. Like I said, I hear music, but
• 33:07
  it's like it's OK in the ground. And that's what their prayers
• 33:11
  are. And then just like, wait, God
• 33:13
  and he'll do the rest. He'll water it, He'll give his
• 33:15
  sunshine, he'll fertilize it. And you and your continued
• 33:19
  prayers add to that too. So that's that's how we can
• 33:21
  quote UN quote help God, right? Yeah, and I love what you say
• 33:26
  about the sea too, because that reminds me of something else
• 33:28
  that my my aunt share with me that I've taken on too, like
• 33:32
  some, some plant, some water. And so, you know, and I, I think
• 33:37
  about that as it relates to prayer conversations.
• 33:40
  It's like, I don't want to water.
• 33:42
  I just want to plant and just keep it moving.
• 33:47
  You know, I'm tired of water and I'm going to get water and I'm
• 33:49
  just like, I'm getting dried up. So, you know, but I think, I
• 33:53
  think it's, it's a perspective. It's another perspective, right?
• 33:57
  Like, you know, some, some people come along in your life
• 34:00
  that either you are the, the part, the recipient, or you are
• 34:04
  the person to, to provide it. But you know, you're planting a
• 34:07
  seed, whether that's praying for someone, praying one time and
• 34:11
  then keeping it moving, you know, talking to them one time,
• 34:13
  giving them advice about something, giving them wisdom
• 34:15
  about something one time and then, you know, moving on.
• 34:18
  And then sometimes it's you're watering, you're the person
• 34:21
  that's you keep coming back, you keep praying for them, you keep
• 34:24
  doing this, you keep giving them, you know, wisdom and
• 34:26
  guidance. And and I think that's just all
• 34:28
  about that just speaks to just, you know, planting seeds and
• 34:32
  watering them. But yeah, I'm like, Lord, I need
• 34:36
  to be a a planting prayer. You see there how you want to do
• 34:42
  what you want to do, telling me the question before that guy
• 34:46
  hears your prayers and that you talk to him all the time.
• 34:50
  So people need your seeds. Yes, they leave them.
• 34:54
  So don't get frustrated in there, right?
• 34:56
  Like I said, that's essentially the waiting.
• 34:58
  And it's not your waiting, but waiting to see it show up in
• 35:01
  other people. But folks are in their own
• 35:03
  journeys with with God. And I love how you talk about
• 35:07
  talking to God all the time. And that prayer is a
• 35:10
  conversation. And that is how we build that
• 35:12
  intimate relationship with God. And that's how we figure out how
• 35:15
  he communicates with us. Like guys come through my radio,
• 35:19
  my TV screen, He has come through my phone.
• 35:22
  He he's come in my spirit, the way I have felt the Holy Spirit.
• 35:26
  Like there's so many different ways, which is, yeah.
• 35:29
  TuneIn tapping in and tuning in. But it starts with just simple
• 35:33
  conversation and he want to be your bestie and if people are
• 35:37
  with dating, he want to be your man first.
• 35:39
  Before that he wants to be your man and your best friend is what
• 35:42
  I'd be telling people, especially they are women.
• 35:46
  It's like that's what you want. Guy has to be in that position
• 35:48
  first because then you run the rest of those people becoming
• 35:52
  your idols. Yep.
• 35:56
  Yeah. And I wanted to just go back a
• 35:59
  little bit because I love what you said about about praying for
• 36:01
  people and how sometimes that can be.
• 36:04
  Well, I know it can be wearing. You know, we shouldn't be
• 36:07
  getting weary. And, you know, we just have to
• 36:08
  do what God has called us to do. But it reminds me of this
• 36:11
  Scripture. It's in Jude that talks about
• 36:13
  how God will give us grace. That's sufficient, right?
• 36:16
  And so whatever the situation is, like, even if I feel like
• 36:19
  I'm, I'm watering too much because I'm, I'm praying for
• 36:22
  some for this person and they haven't changed or whatever the
• 36:24
  case is, or they're just being nasty or they're being rude or
• 36:28
  I'm feeling like my prayers being wasted or whatever the
• 36:31
  case is, you know, God's grace is sufficient for me, for you,
• 36:36
  for that situation and to be able to help someone, whatever
• 36:39
  the circumstance is. I love that.
• 36:41
  Yep. And you also triggered another
• 36:44
  thought, a conversation that I was having before with someone
• 36:47
  about we have to let him. We've done our part.
• 36:53
  We said the prayer, we gave the wisdom, we watered, we planted,
• 36:57
  we gave encouragement, we gave sound biblical advice.
• 37:01
  Now we just let him. Yeah.
• 37:05
  Yeah. It's it's hard for a lot of
• 37:07
  people because it's, it's relinquishing control, you know,
• 37:11
  and some when you're, when you're over control recovery
• 37:16
  like me. That's the first time I've heard
• 37:19
  that, but yeah. When you're when you're in
• 37:21
  control recovery, you know it's hard.
• 37:24
  It's hard to relinquish control yes, it is it it's just hard.
• 37:30
  You know, I'm like, alright, I. Understand that because the need
• 37:33
  for control comes from something else.
• 37:35
  This is the response to something else, right?
• 37:38
  And I think for a lot of us and anyone that's listening, if we
• 37:43
  do have struggles with control, it's an opportunity for healing
• 37:47
  if we really look in. And that's something else that
• 37:49
  we do need to to give to God. And I don't want, we don't got
• 37:52
  to go into your specifics, but that's the clinical brain going
• 37:56
  over here just a little bit like it comes from somewhere that
• 37:59
  way, just because our lived experiences are part of that.
• 38:02
  And some of us needed control to get through very difficult
• 38:05
  seasons. Absolutely, absolutely.
• 38:08
  And you're right on. I mean, so you said, I said, oh,
• 38:10
  here come the social work brain coming out.
• 38:14
  Yeah. But a lot of times, you know,
• 38:15
  you you grow up in these situations where there's chaos
• 38:18
  all around you and you have to find control in that situation.
• 38:22
  And I mean, I know that that's definitely how it was for me.
• 38:25
  And again, I'm in controlled recovery because I'm trying to
• 38:30
  control every single thing that I didn't have control over in my
• 38:33
  younger. States exhausting.
• 38:34
  Yeah, and you can't. We can't go back and change our
• 38:36
  history, but then we try in our present.
• 38:40
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:42
  So that's that's that's that's the thing recovery you right.
• 38:47
  Yeah. That would control recovery
• 38:50
  because I think we all do a version of it because no one's
• 38:52
  had a perfect life. For sure, but I think there's
• 38:57
  also too freedom. Once you grieve that you have to
• 39:01
  grieve, you have to grieve that part of you that you can't
• 39:04
  change. And once you do, there's freedom
• 39:08
  in that too. It's like, OK, well, I can't
• 39:10
  change it. And, and really how it, how it
• 39:13
  looks now is, is a result of, you know, what happened before,
• 39:18
  but I can't change, but what happened before.
• 39:21
  And so like, this is the now and I have to grieve that and let
• 39:23
  that go and just be OK with the now.
• 39:26
  Yes, Oh, so good. That is so good.
• 39:31
  All right, so let's talk a little bit more about learning
• 39:36
  to see the season of waiting as a season of like preparation, as
• 39:40
  a season of refinement. You know, you mentioned being in
• 39:44
  the women's group with Esther, right, And how Esther went
• 39:46
  through 12 months of preparation, right?
• 39:51
  Let's talk about that. Like, how can we reframe this
• 39:54
  waiting season to make people feel empowered and still seen?
• 40:01
  That is a good question. I think that let me see.
• 40:06
  So yeah, So Queen as there's actually 18 months, OK.
• 40:12
  I thought you were a girl. Give me together.
• 40:15
  No, it was 18 months. But I think, I think that the
• 40:19
  biggest thing for me in waiting seasons and preparing for
• 40:22
  waiting seasons is to really just be OK, Like, OK, here's
• 40:30
  here's the take away I would say is that sometimes you have to
• 40:33
  recognize that you're in your answered prayers already.
• 40:36
  And. Say that one more time.
• 40:39
  You are living in an answered prayer today, right now.
• 40:43
  And I will share a little bit about what I mean by that by
• 40:47
  just talking a little bit about my own testimony, which I know
• 40:49
  might, you know, we might go back and forth with, but you
• 40:52
  know, I. So one of the most difficult
• 40:54
  things that I ever experienced in my life was when my brother
• 40:58
  got arrested and then was sentenced to prison.
• 41:03
  And that was the longest, most traumatic experience that I've
• 41:09
  had, or one of them at least in my life.
• 41:12
  And it was, from start to finish, a 12 year waiting
• 41:16
  experience. Oh my.
• 41:18
  Goodness, yeah, it was, yeah. And so he so it was released
• 41:22
  last year, almost last almost a year coming up.
• 41:25
  But between that, between that period of time, it was, it was
• 41:28
  12 years from the time that the event happened until last year.
• 41:31
  Yeah. And it was very, very traumatic,
• 41:35
  just everything that happened, not only for me, but also for
• 41:38
  like, my family, especially for my mom, because I've already
• 41:42
  lost a brother to gun violence. And so this, you know, and so,
• 41:46
  yeah, so I feel like this was what we call like a living
• 41:52
  death. So you have a death of a brother
• 41:54
  that's final, right? It's it's over.
• 41:57
  It's nothing you can do about that.
• 41:58
  And then you have a living death.
• 41:59
  And you have to live with trauma every day, whether it's the
• 42:03
  known trauma of the things that you know and then the unknowns
• 42:07
  of the things that you know are happening behind the scenes that
• 42:11
  you don't always know about, right?
• 42:12
  Like what's happening in prison or what's happening with his
• 42:14
  mental health or what's happening with whatever the case
• 42:17
  is. And so it was a very, it was
• 42:20
  just traumatic. Just going to the visit, like,
• 42:23
  OK, well, do I have to, I have to figure out what I'm going to
• 42:26
  wear. Then I'm going to be searched.
• 42:28
  I'm going to be touched everywhere.
• 42:29
  And then you have the dogs that are like going around you,
• 42:31
  sniffing on you and then making you feel scared.
• 42:33
  And then you have like, oh, OK, well, let me make sure that I
• 42:36
  have quarters, which it almost sent me to a a meltdown one time
• 42:41
  because I didn't have quarters. You have to have quarters.
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  And, you know, then, you know, just dealing with like, oh, can
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  you get all the way up there, drive 3 hours or 2 1/2 hours,
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  and then there's no visit, right.
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  Like, it's just when is this going to be over?
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  Yeah. You know, like, this is in the
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  moment, living in it. You know, it was just horrific.
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  And I remember also when I was in Queen Esther and the women's
• 43:05
  ministry, I told my friend, I was like, you know, I'm just
• 43:07
  going to, because all I know to do was, is to pray.
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  And so I'm going to fast and pray every week.
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  And so my brother comes home and she said, well, what if he
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  doesn't come home for 10 years? And I said, well, I guess I'm
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  going to be fasting for 10 years because the Bible says that
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  something's only come back fasting and praying.
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  And that's what I need to do. I need to fast and I need to
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  pray not only for him to come home, but you know, that he
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  that, that, you know, he's a changed person, that you know,
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  all these things that needs to accompany the, the prayer.
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  And so and it, and it took almost 10 years for that to
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  happen, but every week I'm fast and I'm praying.
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  I'm fast and I'm praying. And sometimes I'm like, again, I
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  had those moments. I'm like, he not even doing what
• 43:54
  he's supposed to do. I'm up here fast and praying for
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  him. You know what I mean?
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  And you know, they got me all the way together.
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  Like, OK, well, no, no, no, you're doing this because this
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  is what the Bible says. Some things only come by
• 44:04
  fastening and pray. So don't worry about.
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  So you know, it was a lot of it was a lot of character building
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  in that time because we, you know, all we, all we could do
• 44:15
  was wait and pray and hear from God.
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  Remember God's promises. My mother's telling me about the
• 44:20
  promises God told her about her son.
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  I'm reminded of God's promises to me.
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  You know, I'm thinking about like all of all of these things
• 44:28
  and just pray, waiting, fasting. And so then he comes out, which
• 44:34
  was great, right? He comes out, I started my
• 44:37
  praying and fasting. So I'm like, you know, it's over
• 44:39
  for, for this situation. And then I was like, maybe like
• 44:44
  a couple of months later, I'm like, I got, I so like, what's
• 44:48
  next? That's what I want you to do.
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  And then I was so convicted or God convicted me in that moment
• 44:54
  because it's like, wait a second, you, you did you
• 44:58
  remember what I did for you? You remember this 12 year
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  process, 10 years of fasting and praying, what you ask for every
• 45:06
  single single day and every week that you fasted and prayed.
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  You remember all that we, we're not going to just move on.
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  You're living in answered prayers right now.
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  That's in that regardless of what else I'm also asking God to
• 45:20
  do for him, regardless of what else I'm asking God to do for me
• 45:24
  in my waiting season, regardless of whatever I'm asking God to do
• 45:27
  for any, any, anything, anybody. I'm living in an answered prayer
• 45:32
  that I prayed for for 12 years. And I think sometimes people
• 45:37
  have to really think about what God has already done and think
• 45:43
  about how we're living and answered prayers right now.
• 45:46
  And if God did it before, he can do it again.
• 45:50
  Yeah. But guess what?
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  Even if he don't do it, it don't mean that he's not worthy to be
• 45:54
  praised. Because one of the the my
• 45:56
  favorite stories of the Bible is the three Hebrew boys, Shadrach,
• 46:00
  Meshach, Abednego. You know, the kings like you
• 46:03
  better bow down to the statue and praise this and, you know,
• 46:06
  be idolatrous and all that. And they're like, no, we're not
• 46:08
  doing that. He said, all right, well, we're
• 46:10
  going to kill you. We're going to put you in this,
• 46:12
  in this fiery furnace. And then they were like, OK,
• 46:15
  well, God will, God has the ability and we believe that he
• 46:20
  will protect us and keep us. But even if he doesn't, we will
• 46:25
  never bow down to you, you know, and he's still worthy.
• 46:29
  So I think, I think that's the take away that I would say, or
• 46:32
  that's the thing in the waiting, in the waiting season.
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  And when you're preparing, you have to realize, one, you're
• 46:39
  living in an answered prayer right now.
• 46:41
  And two, even if you don't get with God that you that has got
• 46:46
  well, you that you think God has told you or that you want, it
• 46:49
  doesn't mean that he's not worthy.
• 46:51
  It doesn't mean that he's not. He shouldn't get all the honor
• 46:53
  and all the glory. Yes, well, thank you first one
• 46:56
  for giving him glory because that's why I have this platform
• 47:00
  is to give him glory. So thank you so much for your
• 47:02
  testimony and giving that example like prayer and fasting
• 47:06
  became a way of life for you. So I'm I'm I'm also thinking
• 47:10
  like, well, what did you replace it with?
• 47:12
  Right, because you're so you know what I mean for all that
• 47:16
  time. And then also this is a good
• 47:19
  reminder to not get in the habit of having a transactional
• 47:23
  relationship with God. I get it.
• 47:25
  We're excited. He answers for we're like, God,
• 47:26
  what can we do next? Like how can we collaborate?
• 47:29
  But also to just take that time and be in it and just say, you
• 47:34
  know what, thank you and I'm gonna rest in this.
• 47:36
  I'm a hang out in a palm of your hands right now.
• 47:39
  Yes. Yeah, yes, I am a a task
• 47:44
  achiever. Like if you have like, oh, if
• 47:47
  there's a picture of like someone that completes task,
• 47:51
  it's gonna be me. So I I really have.
• 47:54
  I'm always like, OK, God, what? What's up?
• 47:57
  What's what's OK? We did this.
• 47:58
  OK, So my husband, you know, whatever, I'm get this next job.
• 48:03
  I'm gonna do this. And it's like, wait a second,
• 48:06
  wait, wait, just wait, just wait a minute, you know, just be
• 48:09
  content and realize that you have you're right now living in
• 48:13
  answered praise. And that's just one, one that
• 48:15
  has been the physics, the biggest significance that I can
• 48:19
  really identify at this point. But there's so many, there's so,
• 48:23
  so many, so many things that God has done that I have prayed for
• 48:27
  and I don't, I don't always recognize it in that moment.
• 48:30
  So one of the things that I do too, to really help me to
• 48:33
  remember, because, you know, sometimes my memory is not
• 48:35
  great, you know, unless God brings it to memories, is I keep
• 48:39
  a prayer journal. Yes.
• 48:41
  And so I pray, I, I put it in my prayer journal, praise reports,
• 48:46
  like things that God has done to bless me and then also prayer
• 48:49
  requests. And then whenever I'm about to
• 48:51
  make another entry, whether it's a praise report or prayer
• 48:54
  request, because sometimes they'll be like weeks in between
• 48:57
  or like months in between, 'cause I'm still praying like
• 49:01
  regularly, but like in my journal, I might have some time
• 49:04
  in between. But before I make my next entry,
• 49:07
  I always go back and I look at what I wrote before and I'm
• 49:10
  like, oh God, he, I, he answered that.
• 49:13
  So now I can't even, I can't even ask for this right here,
• 49:16
  'cause I'm, let me, let me start with a praise report on like
• 49:19
  God, thank you for doing that. You know, I didn't even realize
• 49:22
  that I had prayed for that and, and, and you and you answered
• 49:26
  that. So I think that is also good for
• 49:29
  people to do. Yes, I love that and you really,
• 49:33
  that was a good really segue into practical steps and ways to
• 49:36
  stay active while waiting. And it sounds like you can even
• 49:40
  add to your structure. So your praise request, your
• 49:43
  report and prayers answered so that that's automatically built
• 49:47
  in, right? I'm like, you're right.
• 49:50
  I've had that experience. Like I had to take a photo of a
• 49:53
  journal injury that I had written in like November.
• 49:56
  And then I had experienced my line sister had said something,
• 49:59
  told me something that God has said to her, her and I forgot
• 50:02
  all about my entry. And then one day, I think it was
• 50:06
  either last month or in February, I was flipping through
• 50:09
  my journal and I hit that page and I was like alignment because
• 50:12
  when she said it, I didn't think about the entry I wrote in
• 50:16
  November. She said this to me in December.
• 50:17
  And then I'm seeing and I sent her the picture.
• 50:19
  Like girl, God be doing the stuff that only he can do
• 50:25
  because I heard her. I heard it clear.
• 50:27
  I made my own sense of the thing and then he just really showed
• 50:31
  me how I was all connected. He'd be showing, yeah.
• 50:36
  Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.
• 50:40
  So do you have any other practical steps?
• 50:42
  Because I don't want to if you got some more gems to drop on
• 50:45
  her. Well, I don't know.
• 50:47
  I don't know if I mean, let's see, I would say to like the the
• 50:53
  take away that I think also will be something that people should
• 50:57
  focus on or should take would be one, you're living in answered
• 51:01
  prayers, but also two, sometimes the lesson is not in the
• 51:07
  answered prayer or the goal or the task.
• 51:10
  The lesson is in the journey. And I think I've read.
• 51:14
  Have you, have you ever read The Alchemist?
• 51:16
  Yes. Yes, OK, so I.
• 51:20
  Read it one time and then I listened to it another time.
• 51:24
  OK, so yeah, so I read it a while ago.
• 51:26
  I'm on this. I love reading and I'm on this
• 51:29
  book journey and I read this. I read the The Alchemist and I
• 51:36
  was so invested in him trying to find this treasure and you know,
• 51:41
  I'm like, OK, is he going to get to the treasure?
• 51:43
  Is he going to get the girl? Like he loves this girl?
• 51:46
  Like if he go like what's happened?
• 51:48
  I'm flipping something and I guess like the last maybe like 2
• 51:51
  pages, I'm like, OK, he didn't get the treasure.
• 51:56
  He didn't, he didn't get like, you know, like, you know,
• 51:58
  because again, I'm very task oriented.
• 52:00
  Like there's a picture of me right there.
• 52:03
  And I'm like, OK, so he didn't meet his goal.
• 52:05
  And it just really just went over my head that the goal was
• 52:08
  not to get the treasure. The goal was the journey and
• 52:11
  what you learned in the process of getting there.
• 52:14
  And I think that's how we as humans should be too.
• 52:18
  Like don't necessarily focus on, you know, the thing, right,
• 52:22
  Whatever The thing is, because sometimes it's the journey
• 52:25
  getting there. It's the stuff that that God is
• 52:28
  building within us, You know, the things that God is preparing
• 52:30
  us for the character development.
• 52:32
  It's so many hard things that have happened.
• 52:34
  And I can, I would use my brothers as an example, him
• 52:37
  getting arrested just because I brought that up.
• 52:39
  But I'm like, I would have never fast and prayed the way that I
• 52:43
  did had that not happened. That was my journey.
• 52:46
  That was what I learned and I got.
• 52:49
  So. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:51
  I got so much, so much closer. I learned how to have faith.
• 52:55
  I had so much faith during that time.
• 52:58
  I'm like, oh, I don't know how it's going to happen, but I just
• 53:00
  know. I just know it like I know it,
• 53:02
  you know, I mean, they talk about having faith as small as a
• 53:04
  mustard seed and, and it was, it was strong, you know, during
• 53:08
  that time. And that would not have been the
• 53:11
  case had I not been do anything like that.
• 53:13
  It just wouldn't. And that's just a part of the
• 53:15
  journey. Yep.
• 53:16
  That refinement process and you strengthening your skills like
• 53:21
  your spiritual relationship, your faith, like all of that,
• 53:25
  that's good. Nothing gets wasted.
• 53:26
  So even on the surface, these things that look horrible, that
• 53:30
  are traumatic, God is always doing something.
• 53:33
  Nothing is ever wasted. One of my previous guests, she
• 53:37
  introduced this concept of spiritual compost.
• 53:39
  Yeah, girl, I was like when I heard it too.
• 53:42
  But like, all of that was spiritual compost for you to
• 53:45
  enrich you. And then whatever else God did
• 53:48
  with and for your brother and then even through him, right?
• 53:54
  And then even the visits like you're saying you are going
• 53:57
  faithfully to go see him. Like other people saw that
• 54:00
  there's so many things that we're doing that we just don't
• 54:04
  even think about. That is planting seeds that
• 54:06
  we'll never even know. It's like, I heard this story
• 54:09
  about this like like a clay water container and we had like
• 54:16
  it had a hole in it, right? So the person would carry it and
• 54:20
  then they would get to wherever they're going and they only come
• 54:22
  back with less than what they thought, right?
• 54:25
  And so they were complaining about it.
• 54:26
  And then it was explained to them, go back and walk and look
• 54:30
  what's happening along the way where you water and there's
• 54:32
  other flowers because they had no idea that they were watering
• 54:38
  all of this. And all they did was complain
• 54:40
  about the hole in the and it watered and all these things.
• 54:46
  So wow. That's.
• 54:47
  Yeah, right. I love that that goes with the
• 54:51
  journey, right? It called that story and it's
• 54:54
  the journey. But then also things and people
• 54:58
  that were that you touch you have no idea and just leaving
• 55:01
  everything. Yeah, but I and I think too
• 55:04
  sometimes it's, you know, it's hard to not, I know we talked
• 55:07
  about this early, but it's hard to not resent the journey too.
• 55:10
  You know what it is? It's like, oh gosh, like like
• 55:15
  even when was it 2025? I was like, I got 2025.
• 55:20
  Come on. Like that.
• 55:21
  I'm I'm, I'm resilient. Yep.
• 55:23
  Of all these things, you know, I exhibit the fruits of the
• 55:26
  spirit. I don't need another, you know,
• 55:29
  hard year. So and you know, we have to be
• 55:33
  careful not to resent that because we don't know what all
• 55:36
  the time what we should be gleaning in our difficult times.
• 55:38
  And that's why we it's important for us to seek him.
• 55:41
  It's a seek God about OK, God, what should I be learning in
• 55:45
  this, in this journey? Or, you know, instead of just
• 55:48
  saying, what was me or, you know, I'm, you know, acting like
• 55:52
  a victim, like, OK, God, this has happened.
• 55:54
  I mean, you crying tears and all that, OK.
• 55:57
  But once you get yourself together, all right, God, what
• 56:00
  should I be learning in this experience?
• 56:01
  Or why am I having this experience again, yet again?
• 56:04
  But maybe you didn't learn it right the first time, you know,
• 56:07
  Because sometimes God keeps giving you the test because you
• 56:10
  keep failing than a test. Yes, that's good.
• 56:13
  And I talked with my clients about life being a video game
• 56:16
  and now that if anything we play with as much as we have to
• 56:19
  repeat the levels until we do everything that needs to be done
• 56:23
  right. Like so I think about Super
• 56:25
  Mario Brothers, right, because I was just like one of the games I
• 56:29
  learned to play. But you have to do all these
• 56:31
  things go through the different levels and at the end you get to
• 56:33
  the Princess, right? And so when you don't do certain
• 56:37
  things, you have to start over. But even oh, this is going to be
• 56:40
  good Mario Brothers. There are times where things are
• 56:45
  hidden. Have you remembered the ones
• 56:47
  when you go up and you get the thing and you it shrinks you
• 56:49
  down and I mean, yes, going to this under level and it's hidden
• 56:54
  and then you pop back out further than you were, yes.
• 56:57
  Oh. My God, that you forget, yes,
• 57:03
  that, that that is a good representation.
• 57:05
  Sometimes we are hidden. Everything does not need to be
• 57:08
  seen above ground where everyone can see it, where it's
• 57:11
  noticeable. But at the end of the day, we
• 57:14
  get to go back and start over. And that's the beauty of our
• 57:17
  relationship with Christ and that we make mistakes and we do
• 57:20
  have the opportunity to get it right.
• 57:23
  It doesn't mean we have infinite lives, right?
• 57:25
  Because we get the one life to live, but just really just doing
• 57:29
  that and learning from it each time.
• 57:34
  Because that means we haven't yet gotten the lesson, which
• 57:36
  means we haven't gotten whatever it is He needed us to get from
• 57:41
  that, to go to the next level and get closer to our purpose,
• 57:45
  to our divine assignment. Yeah.
• 57:47
  All right, so then how do we discern when it's time to wait
• 57:52
  versus when it's time to take action?
• 57:54
  You've been a woman of action. I mean, I think it just goes
• 57:58
  back to making sure that you know how to hear from God.
• 58:02
  You know, it's different ways. If you know how to hear from
• 58:06
  God, you'll know how to discern. Sometimes it can be God speaking
• 58:11
  to you. Sometimes it can be like
• 58:13
  literally you hear his voice. Like I've heard his voice a
• 58:14
  couple times. I was like, what?
• 58:16
  I was scared. I was like, Oh no, my mom was
• 58:19
  like no, no, no. When God calls your name, you
• 58:20
  need to say yes Lord. So the next time I was like,
• 58:22
  yes, Lord, I mean, but it was, it was.
• 58:25
  If you gonna be overwhelmed or scared by something, right,
• 58:28
  that's that. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:31
  So I, I think, yeah, discernment, you just, you have
• 58:34
  to, you have to know how God speaks to you.
• 58:37
  I think it's also really, really helpful for you to have people
• 58:42
  in your life that have wisdom. I, I would say certain people in
• 58:49
  my life like wisdom is chasing you, but you're running faster
• 58:54
  and, you know, they're like a sprinter in the Olympics, you
• 58:57
  know, wisdom can't catch them. So not only do you have to have
• 59:00
  people that have wisdom, but you have to really be able to hear
• 59:04
  what they're saying and really, you know, implement what they're
• 59:07
  saying. So I think that's important
• 59:10
  because someone can someone that has wisdom can tell you like, Oh
• 59:13
  no, that's not God would tell you to do that.
• 59:16
  That's not, that's not how God told you to get that husband to
• 59:18
  take somebody else's husband. You know, like, that's not,
• 59:22
  that's, that's not biblical. At all.
• 59:27
  You know, it just really you, you really have to and, and I
• 59:30
  heard you say this earlier, you know, be open to accountability.
• 59:34
  You know, it's hard to discern from God or the people that God
• 59:40
  has placed in your life when you're not willing to be
• 59:41
  accountable to anybody. And if you're not accountable to
• 59:44
  anybody, you're out of control. And there's a scripture
• 59:47
  somewhere in there about a person who isn't open to
• 59:49
  correction. I will have to look it up.
• 59:51
  But that definitely applies to what you're saying.
• 59:55
  Yeah, absolutely. So what are some signs in your
• 1:00:00
  experience and opinion? Right.
• 1:00:03
  For recognizing that God is preparing you for the next step.
• 1:00:06
  What are some of those signs when you know well for me?
• 1:00:11
  Something stays within me and it doesn't leave.
• 1:00:14
  So I'm like, I know that I've been through a lot in my life
• 1:00:18
  and I know that my purpose is to help other people get through
• 1:00:22
  similar circumstances based on what I went through.
• 1:00:25
  I don't want to do it but it's just stays within me.
• 1:00:30
  Like. Well, nowhere like.
• 1:00:31
  Let him go anywhere. I'm like, oh, come on, God, no.
• 1:00:36
  And I think when, when something just just stays there, just
• 1:00:40
  sticks there. You just know that that's what
• 1:00:43
  you know, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't matter.
• 1:00:46
  Like I can be like, OK, God will like, can I do it this way?
• 1:00:50
  Can I do it this way? Can, you know, try to make
• 1:00:51
  myself more comfortable. And you know, I hear God like I
• 1:00:54
  don't care how you do it. Just do it, you know, do it
• 1:00:57
  scared. And I that's my thing now, like,
• 1:01:00
  you know, if I'm fearful. If I'm you know.
• 1:01:02
  Do a scare. Do it anyway.
• 1:01:04
  Because one thing that I know and I've learned is that if
• 1:01:08
  you're, if you're having some type of anxiety about some doing
• 1:01:11
  something new or doing something that you know, you're afraid of,
• 1:01:15
  it's not that you don't have the skill set or the education or
• 1:01:18
  the experience to do it. You know, it's, it's not that.
• 1:01:22
  It's just that you're doing something new and that's why
• 1:01:25
  it's scary. But do it anyway.
• 1:01:28
  So that's what I would say. I mean, just something that just
• 1:01:31
  doesn't leave you and you can't shake.
• 1:01:34
  It's like, you know, every, every, every, every time you
• 1:01:37
  come around someone, they're like, oh, yeah, you gonna be so
• 1:01:39
  and so or, you know, or you're really a a sweet person.
• 1:01:42
  You're a compassionate person. Or you're, you know, it's just
• 1:01:44
  like, OK, all right. Thank you.
• 1:01:47
  Thank you, Kylie. But how do you use God's gifts
• 1:01:51
  to really help someone else? Right?
• 1:01:53
  Like, I really want my life to be the reason that people seek
• 1:01:57
  God or that people seek God. And you know, some of it can be
• 1:02:03
  like other people watching me and watching how I live.
• 1:02:05
  But some of it is just also putting myself out there
• 1:02:09
  speaking about it more, advocating for certain things
• 1:02:12
  that are meaningful based on the things that I've been through.
• 1:02:15
  It's not just looking at my life that is 1 aspect because some
• 1:02:19
  people, your life will be the only Bible they ever see.
• 1:02:22
  So that's important. But some of it is it's more,
• 1:02:24
  it's more than that. And I think just when you have
• 1:02:27
  something that's within you that doesn't leave and you know you
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  can't shake, that's how you know.
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  Yes, something within you. I'd love that.
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  OK, and and and I also heard it's within you.
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  You might resist or you might not be checking for it and God
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  keeps sending it in different ways.
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  It's that thing that keep it keep popping up.
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  It won't go away it. Won't go away.
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  I'm like leave me alone, you know, leave me alone.
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  Like even had a one of my one of my family members was in my was
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  in my spirit one time and God had told me to reach out to him
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  about something. I'm minding my business.
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  Nope, I'm good. And I've ever like.
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  One minute it wouldn't just kept.
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  It was like heaviness. I kept thinking about it started
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  having like somatic symptoms and I'm just like, all right, God,
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  fine, like all right. So then I reached out and it was
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  fine. And I think that's the other
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  thing too. It's like, I have so much like
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  worked up thoughts, anxiety, thinking things are going to be
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  one way. And it's, it's never like my
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  work. But my way of thinking sometimes
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  can be so extreme of like, oh, this happens.
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  Or if I reach out or if I share my story or whatever the case
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  is, it's going to look this way. And it's always like extreme
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  negative. And it's never that way.
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  It's never the case. And I think that's also a lesson
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  for me too. And maybe for some viewers, like
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  once you start doing the things that God has called you to do
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  and that has put on your heart and that you're passionate
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  about, you'll realize that like, it wasn't as scary as you
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  thought, or it wasn't as bad as you thought, or wasn't bad at
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  all. You know that.
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  You just have to take the first step.
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  Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That first step, you're like me,
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  'cause I, I said, God, you got me out here being weird.
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  What? But I'm a do it because it's
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  you. But it's weird and and I'm not
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  feeling it but I'm a do it. Yes, I mean, I'm still, I'm
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  still working 'cause like I said, I'm in, I'm a control.
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  I'm I'm I'm in you control recovery.
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  Yes. So, you know, sometimes I'm
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  like, Nah, God, I ain't about to do that.
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  And then sometimes I'm like, alright, I'm going to do it.
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  But I'm a wait a little minute and then sometimes I'm like,
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  alright, let me just do it. But you know, congratulation is
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  that's a tough one. That's.
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  A whole thing too. Yeah, I said that's a tough one.
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  Like when it's something that we really don't want to do or the
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  thing that we're scared to do. And I think it is important to,
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  like you said, do it anyway, and also that you're not doing it by
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  yourself. And if God is telling you to do
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  it, then you're 100% guaranteed success.
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  Yeah. He's testing, he's refining you
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  because like being on this walk with God is not easy, even
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  though he's like keeps us hidden, He keeps us protected.
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  He has was in the palm of his hand.
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  You know, I forget where it is in the Bible where you know what
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  Jesus is telling others that Jesus is telling the disciples
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  they hate me so they're going to hate you.
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  You know what I mean? We are going to experience some
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  barriers in opposition and like where people are going to be
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  anti and that just comes with it.
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  And just like roll with that. But like God has you no matter
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  what. So we, we do have to kind of
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  like let go of perception. What are they going to think?
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  Or Dang, I sound weird. This is ridiculous, but he's
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  going to reward your obedience and then also you're you're.
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  He's already opened the path for whatever it is to be received
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  and because you're tuned and tapped in more than those people
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  in your family, that's why he's coming through you to be a
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  messenger to them and help them in their relationship with him.
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  Yeah. I mean, that's, that's true.
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  I think that sometimes I don't. I don't always, or at least then
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  I didn't always view myself as the mouthpiece in certain
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  situations. And I'm like, well, why?
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  Why you choosing me? Like I'm not even a speaking is
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  not my thing. That's I prefer to write.
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  I prefer to keep everything inside.
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  Listen, I could be hidden. I don't mind being hidden.
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  God, just behind the scenes. Keep me, keep me back there.
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  But you know, I think it's about preparing me too or just making
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  me feel more comfortable for whatever God is going to have
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  for me. And I think something else that
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  comes to mind is when I was my, my, my second mom, I call her my
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  second mom. My aunt was diagnosed with
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  cancer. And after that diagnosis, I
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  started a, a prayer call for my cousins that I, I still do.
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  So this was in 2022, June of 2022, and I still do that now to
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  this day, every every week, every Wednesday.
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  But I don't want to do it. And I, I mean, I was like God
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  had put in my spirit, like, OK, maybe, you know, do a prayer
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  call, you know, some encouragement, pray for people.
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  And I'm like, I know I'm not like an evangel person, you
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  know, I'm not Speaking of thumbs.
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  I'm not, I mean, I pray, I talk to God, but like, you know, the
• 1:07:40
  way that I talk to God, like God, let me give me this pocket
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  space or please, you know, help me out or whatever.
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  But like, I'm not a, I'm not this.
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  I didn't view myself as this person to, to be, I guess worthy
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  of being able to even do this or put this together.
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  And then I had so much anxiety about it.
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  Like I just hate speaking in public, even doing this.
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  I'm like, this is a, you know, this is a stretch for me too,
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  because that's not something that I would normally agree to
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  do. But I, it has been such a
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  blessing to people to have this cult like this prayer call, like
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  sometimes my cousins reach out like, oh, that's, you know, so
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  great or thank you so much. And I'm like, really, I really
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  just don't, I just don't, I don't know, I just feel like
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  it's it, it's, it's really nothing but God.
• 1:08:27
  It's not me at all. It's nothing but God and what
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  God has instructed me to do because if it was me, I wouldn't
• 1:08:34
  be doing it. I wouldn't be doing it.
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  Yep, two things God doesn't call to qualified, he qualifies the
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  call to call. Yes, you OK.
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  And then two, I'm hearing that there are sometimes where in
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  settings where it's appropriate for you to be hidden and there
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  are other times when he needs you to leave.
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  Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
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  OK. Well, do you have any last like
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  testimonies or insight that you like to share with our audience
• 1:09:08
  about the waiting season? I would just, if you can glean
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  into my journey and in my life, the two things that I've
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  reiterated, the most I would say is just make sure that you focus
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  on living and answer prayers and that sometimes the lesson is in
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  the journey and it's not in the answered prayer or it's not in
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  the goal. So no, at the risk of sounding
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  redundant, I do close every time with the signature question.
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  Right. Like what is 1 powerful truth
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  that you can leave with the audience to help them to rise in
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  faith and thrive in purpose? Rise in faith and thrive and
• 1:09:52
  purpose. What would I say say going back
• 1:09:59
  to the story that I mentioned about the three three Shebrew
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  boys and just really making sure that you're you have a solid
• 1:10:08
  foundation in your faith because if you have a solid foundation
• 1:10:11
  in your faith, then you will always thrive.
• 1:10:15
  And the foundation is is through Christ.
• 1:10:17
  So whatever your journey is, whatever you're waiting on,
• 1:10:20
  whatever you're going through, if you have that foundation,
• 1:10:23
  then that's the limit. Yes, thank you so much, Jaimel,
• 1:10:29
  for being here and just giving so many gems and just like Rich,
• 1:10:34
  just digestible, tangible advice that I think our audience can
• 1:10:39
  take an appliance to their lives.
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  So thank you so much for being here and taking time out today.
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  Well, thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.
• 1:10:48
  And gospel reward your obedience for being here.
• 1:10:50
  And I think I've told you this before, God didn't give you that
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  very beautiful, unique voice that you have for it to just
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  quiet. Just just just know that.
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  So now we're going to shift to our call to action for our
• 1:11:04
  audience. SO1 audience members, I want you
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  all to reflect. What are you waiting for and how
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  has your perspective on waiting shake your face?
• 1:11:14
  And then of course, we want you to take action.
• 1:11:18
  We want you to identify one way you can embrace the waiting
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  season with purpose. So whether that's through your
• 1:11:25
  spiritual growth, learning, serving others, getting a
• 1:11:28
  community, just identify one way and act on it on how to embrace
• 1:11:34
  this waiting season. And then finally, I'm going to
• 1:11:37
  send you out with an affirmation.
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  I trust God's timing, even when I don't understand the delay.
• 1:11:44
  What he has for me will come at the right time.
• 1:11:49
  All right, So thank you all again for joining us on Rise and
• 1:11:54
  Thrive with Doctor J Nicole. And I want to thank my guests
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  one more time and time now. And I want to give you an
• 1:12:01
  opportunity to plug your your business or anything like that
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  you like to share with them and how can they stay in touch with
• 1:12:08
  you? Sure, sure.
• 1:12:10
  So right now I have Great Grace Wildness LLC.
• 1:12:15
  So one of my my friends, they dubbed me as the person that's
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  like I'm somebody that always knows somebody like, you know, I
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  know somebody to know somebody. And so I think my my business
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  really is the foundation of that is that like it's a hub for
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  referring people for resources, making sure that they have the
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  information that they need to be successful.
• 1:12:36
  So we provide direct services, whether that's supervision,
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  clinical supervision or group supervision.
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  Also training on certain topics like mental health, financial
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  Wellness. And then we provide services
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  that are not direct, indirect services.
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  That's like, you know somebody, know somebody.
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  So if you need support with finding therapeutic resources
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  like therapy or if you have questions about child welfare
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  services or anything like that, helping to learn about different
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  programs, outpatient programs, getting connected.
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  Definitely you can follow us more on Instagram.
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  I can make sure that I send you my handle for that, but just
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  great. Increase Wellness LLC is our
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  business. All right, well, thank you again
• 1:13:19
  and just so happy and I was like, how's social work of her
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  the like you're describing again, I know somebody know
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  somebody to be the hub. I was like, and I love how
• 1:13:30
  you're able to take those skills that we use to help clients, but
• 1:13:34
  to also monetize it and show that social work has
• 1:13:38
  entrepreneurial like transferable skills.
• 1:13:41
  So thank you again for being here today.
• 1:13:45
  And again, thank you all for tuning in and we will see you
• 1:13:49
  next time and we'll continue to rise in faith and thrive and
• 1:13:52
  purpose. Thank you so much.
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  Yeah.