Paul Spoonley: Massey University Sociologist on the latest net migration figures

Early Edition with Ryan Bridge · Dec 10, 2025 · 2m · transcript

Could the worst of the brain drain be over?

Though migration remains low year-on-year, provisional figures show that net migration for October was up 7% on 2024.

Massey University Sociologist Paul Spoonley told Andrew Dickens he’s optimistic we’re starting to see it plateauing, if not turning around.

He says the pull of Australia is still very strong, but in terms on non-New Zealand migrant departures, that’s looking a bit healthier.

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