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Trump’s crushing blow to Maduro ignites war on global communism · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Welcome to another edition of Trevor Loudon Reports on America Out Loud.
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  Today it's going to be a little bit different.
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  My very good friend, longtime buddy Brad Zinn is going to interview me on events in Venezuela and their wider implications.
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  I've known Brad for many, many years.
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  He was a um a uh I don't want to use the word disciple, but uh uh a very close friend of the late great Australian anti-communist Fred Schwartz, who really brought uh both a Christian revival and an anti-communist movement to to the United States in the 50s and the 60s and beyond, had massive influence on the Reagan movement and and other movements in the United States.
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  And Brad was very close to to Fred Schwartz.
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  I think Fred Schwartz officiated Brad's wedding, actually.
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  And um Brad has been a staunch anti-communist his entire life.
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  He's uh he's doubles as an entertainer.
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  He's a great comic and and impersonator and has done show, lived lived as a professional entertainer since he was about 17.
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  So he's an anti-communist entertainer as opposed to me, who is an anti-communist baker.
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  Um, but we have a lot of parallels in our life, don't we, Brad?
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  So thanks for joining me, Brad, and uh it's really good to have you on board again.
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  Thank you, uh Trevor.
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  It's always an honor and a pleasure to be with you, and I'm always flattered uh that you would uh share your platform with me.
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  It means a lot to me, and you are absolutely right about Dr.
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  Fred C.
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  Schwartz of the Christian anti-communism crusade.
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  I started studying with him in 1966, and I started speaking on Marxism in 1969, and I brought Dr.
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  Schwartz to uh Phoenix on a couple of occasions.
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  He took me to Washington, D.C.
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  for the bicentennial, and he did uh show up as a surprise guest at my wedding, which we were very, very moved that he would.
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  I mean, you know, come on.
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  I that's that's more than an acquaintance.
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  That's a good friend that does that.
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  So he flew in and and came to uh our wedding.
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  So he was a very dear friend, and I refer to him as my mentor.
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  Uh yeah, that's a better word, isn't it?
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  Yeah.
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  Uh he he is the one that guided me and instructed me and uh um treated me as an equal all always.
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  And uh I I very very much miss him.
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  And you are right, he had a huge uh impact on uh the Reagan Revolution and beyond.
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  And I just wanted to uh, you know, as long as we're on this, um uh Dr.
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  Schwartz uh always talked about the dialectic and uh dialectical materialism, and if you don't understand those things, you really don't understand Marxism.
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  And I wanted to compliment you on your last two podcasts, which dissected the the uh collapse of the Soviet Union, which, and I won't go into a lot of detail here, but uh your last two podcasts dissected all of that, and it was a brilliant on the part of the Soviet Union and the Russian uh uh Marxist-Leninists over there.
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  It was a brilliant exercise in the dialectic, and uh, which is uh uh press forward and then fall back, and when your enemy thinks you've given up, that's when you strike and win.
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  Uh, it was immortalized by Mao Tsatung's uh Chinese army march, three steps forward and two steps back.
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  And uh uh the collapse of the Soviet Union was the greatest exercise in the dialectic I think the world has ever seen.
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  Yeah, and still a lot of people haven't waken up to it.
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  You know, that you know, Russia is openly going back to Soviet to the Soviet models, it's openly flying the flag, red flag again, it's um openly talking about resovietization, and is working deeply with China as as Golitsin and many others prof you know um predicted that there would be a fake collapse in the Soviet Union, uh they'd get lots of money from the West, they'll rebuild their military power.
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  America would be uh, you know, no longer regard the Russians or Soviets as enemies and be guy would be beguiled to the point that Russia and China would join together and strike us, basically bring us down.
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  And I see that playing out now.
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  And it's been interesting to talk about how we view the Venezuela situation in that context.
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  But yes, yes, you're right, Brad.
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  Uh well, thanks for the compliment.
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  Uh there was Gusak, who is uh who is a very, very good student of these issues.
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  Well, I I wanted your listeners, and we may have some new listeners uh uh tuning in each time you uh have a podcast, so I want to be sure and point those last two out.
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  And if you haven't heard them, please do yourself a favor and and listen to those.
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  So uh I you know I don't like to call and just shoot the breeze with you because I know you're a very busy man, but this uh arrest of Maduro in uh Venezuela was so huge that I just couldn't resist calling to get your take on it.
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  And uh that's what has brought us to this uh podcast here today.
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  Uh we decided that there was a lot to talk about.
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  And let me say this on the surface, it just looks like we arrested a narco-terrorist trafficker.
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  Uh, but the implications of this are huge to use a Donald Trump uh term, huge.
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  And uh this has worldwide implications, I believe.
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  And uh, you know, we've often referred to Donald Trump doing things as uh while the rest of the world is playing checkers, he's playing three-dimensional chess.
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  And I really have a feeling that this very well could be a three-dimensional chess move.
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  Uh the world-shaking effects of this uh takedown of Maduro could include uh Cuba, Russia, Iran, China, uh, and and beyond, and Russia, uh, it's now coming out.
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  Was you know, we know what money laundering is, but Russia apparently was oil laundering through Venezuela, allowing can uh allowing them to continue uh uh oil revenue that allowed them to continue their um aggression in Ukraine and various other uh endeavors, but it was all sold uh through Venezuela, laundered through Venezuela and sold under the table.
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  Uh just address that part of it, if you would, Trevor, and tell us what what this means if Russia can't sell their oil now.
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  Yeah, well, it's that's right, Brad.
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  It's um the Russian economy runs on oil.
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  They've really got little else to export.
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  They they are not a their whole war effort in Ukraine, their military buildup is funded by energy.
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  And with some with European sanctions and some American sanctions, though not enough.
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  The uh Russian economy is in deep trouble right now.
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  Their whole system is on the verge of collapse, unemployment, you know, um, inflation's going up, the the people in Russia are really approaching critical uh a critical situation there right now.
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  It's not quite Venezuela, but it's their standard of living is plummeting.
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  Uh, there's widespread discontent.
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  And if Russia can't sell any oil or or much less oil on the world stage, it's hard to imagine how they continue their war in Ukraine or any other war for that matter.
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  Their economy is imploding, and this could finish them, and would that would be a fantastic thing.
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  And I don't want to uh speak out of turn here, but I think I heard that their re their replacement birth rate was down as well, and they're having trouble recruiting uh military.
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  They're having to import military uh people from like North Korea and such.
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  Well, North Korea, Africa, um Asia, a lot of um Muslims, Arabs are being recruited.
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  See what they do, many of them they just did directly recruit across the world for the Russian military.
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  But often they will bring people into Russia as guest workers, then they'll get them to sign a contract.
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  And what these people don't realize are signing is they're not gonna work in a janitor and uh uh uh as a janitor in a Moscow office building.
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  They're gonna work as a rifleman on the Ukraine front.
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  And uh they sign them, and uh it's basically a form of slavery.
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  So part of it's deception and part of its economic desperation, and part of it is they also recruit ideologically sympathetic people, communists from around the world, are going to fight for Russia in Ukraine.
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  And thankfully, um, many of them aren't lasting very long at all.
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  Right.
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  Well, it's a classic case of bait and switch.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  So all right.
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  So well, there's a classic example, wasn't there, of the really heartbreaking example of uh an American man who brought we saw it on TV, an American man who brought his three young daughters and his wife to Russia because he thought it was a more Christian country.
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  And he could raise his his kids as Christians.
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  So then he's offered a contract with the Russian military.
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  He'll work as a welder or writing stories.
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  So he signs up and they send him to the Ukraine front.
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  And we haven't heard from him since.
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  Yeah.
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  It's a tragic, tragic situation.
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  Well, let's move on to China now for a moment, because China is the other big player in this situation that the collapse of uh Venezuela's narco-terrorist uh Maduro.
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  Uh China is going to have some heartburn over this as well because apparently they were counting on Maduro's oil, uh, which they don't have a lot of.
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  Uh, if they're going to invade Taiwan and carry on any military activity in the South Pacific there, um, then uh, or in the China Sea, uh, if Maduro's not selling them oil, they're gonna hurt as well.
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  Uh give me your thoughts on that.
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  Look, exactly.
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  And so that's uh this is people see Venezuela as a you know is a uh uh uh a beautiful but impoverished, impoverished Latin American country, but not much more.
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  Venezuela is a communist controlled regime run by the Cubans, the Russians, the Chinese, Hezbollah, and uh the Iranians and the cartels.
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  It's a absolute dagger pointed at the heart of America.
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  There's strong evidence that uh the Venezuelans were were behind had a lot to do with the Chinese on running Black Lives Matter and the riots around that.
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  Um they have uh, you know, heavily involved in the drug trade, they're heavily involved in subversive movements in the United States.
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  I think really Venezuela has taken over from Cuba as a center of communism in our hemisphere, if you don't count California, that is.
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  And so um, you know, they they are a very, very dangerous regime.
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  And the thing they had that Cuba didn't have, at least they have oil.
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  And although their oil exports are down, they their oil infrastructure is run down, they still have money from oil, which they can channel into revolutionary causes, and the Cubans don't really have much wealth.
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  So while they've impoverished the Venezuelan people, that oil wealth has still been funneled into revolution around Latin America and in the United States.
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  So it was a major threat.
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  The Russian has the Russians have strong military presence there.
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  So do the Chinese.
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  So Trump was absolutely right to step in and take out Maduro, a communist and a criminal, an American hater, uh Russian and Chinese puppet, um, and a drug runner.
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  So there's no question about the morality of doing this, and no question about the legality either, in my opinion.
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  So it's a great move.
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  Yeah, we're gonna get into the legality a little bit later, yeah.
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  Yeah, there are there are positives and negatives to this, but but overall, on the face of it, this is a great move, which, as you say, will have implications not just for Latin America but all around the world.
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  Exactly.
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  And I I want to talk about the uh down the potential downsides uh a little bit later.
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  I want to stay on the positive side for for the moment.
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  And I'm looking at an article here, excuse me, that uh Donald Trump uh uh has uh was talking to Air Force uh reporters on Air Force One and suggested that the uh U.S.
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  is keeping an eye on also Colombia, Greenland, Cuba, Mexico, and Iran, and might consider conducting military operations in some of those nations.
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  Colombia is very sick, he said, run by a sick man who likes making cocaine and selling it to the United States.
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  So uh this begs the question uh about the return of the Monroe Doctrine and President Trump is now calling it the Donro doctrine, the Donro Doctrine.
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  Uh your thoughts on the Monroe Doctrine, sir, and why it hasn't been uh enforced in recent uh decades.
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  Well, the original Monroe Doctrine came from President Monroe, and it it basically said that European powers would not be allowed into America's sphere of influence, and that includes all of Latin America.
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  So the French, the Spanish, the Germans.
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  So this was aimed at the Royal Powers of Europe back in the day.
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  And through the Cold War, it was enforced to some degree.
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  America would stand up against communism and Nicaragua and Cuba and Chile, etc.
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  But in recent years, as the communists have grained greater and greater hold in the United States through the Congressional Black Caucus through the Democratic Party.
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  Um, as I say in my books, you know, um white uh security risk senators and house and Americans.
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  I I thought it says about 40 communist sympathizers in the U.S.
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  Senate, all Democrats, and about nearly a hundred in the House.
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  As that is intensified, the Latin America has basically been allowed to come under Chinese and Russian and and cartel and uh Hezbollah and Iranian influence.
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  So most of Latin America now, and I include Mexico in that.
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  There's a communist president there now, Claudia Scheinbaum, who followed another communist president, umlo, they called him.
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  And so uh and and there's also been the Sao Paulo Forum, a gathering of 200 political parties in Latin America, communist terrorist, etc., united in the Sao Paulo Forum by Lula de Silva of Brazil, a Marx, the Marxist president there, and the late Fidel Castro to recover for communism in Latin America, what was lost in Eastern Europe.
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  So it was explicitly communist, and um Claudia Scheinbaum's involved in that, as are most of the leaders of Latin America, and by the way, democratic socialists of America, our largest communist group, is also affiliated to that.
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  So the Monroe Doctrine has been pretty much abandoned.
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  Um that it didn't help under Jimmy Carter when we gave away the Panama Canal, which was then promptly uh eventually taken over by the Chinese until Trump corrected that.
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  Um Cuba was allowed to spread its tentacles all through Latin America, as was Russia and China.
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  So the Monroe Doctrine has been uh effectively dead up until recent times.
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  So this could be the reassertment of the Monroe Doctrine, the Don Roe Doctrine if it is carried through and isn't just window dressing.
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  Exactly.
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  And uh let's not forget the KGB effort to send uh Catholic missionaries into Central and South America to preach liberation theology.
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  Absolutely.
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  That Jesus was a socialist and and he was uh teaming up with the socialists to liberate the peasants of Central and South America.
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  Uh I don't know your reading on it, but I'm getting the feeling now they've elected a couple of conservatives down in South America there.
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  Uh uh, yeah, I think it's Argentina and one other country that are Chile.
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  Chile uh moving toward uh more conservative governance.
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  And I think the people may very well be waking up to the fact that socialism is indeed um uh a uh uh uh what's the word I'm looking for, uh not a good solution to their problems.
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  Yeah and uh this liberation theology is uh uh is a poison pill, so to speak.
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  Let me uh let me uh ask you just real quick, because President Trump's come under criticism for not going after the Mexican cartels as opposed to the Venezuelan cartels.
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  Uh any thoughts on that?
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  Well, look, I think he's right to take it out.
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  You know, Venezuela is closer to the source of um, you know, most of these drugs are coming through Latin America, um you know, uh, from China, from Cuba, um, from the from the you know the terrorist groups of Latin America and the criminal organizations.
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  So Venezuela is a major staging post here, and I think it's better to take out Venezuela, which will put huge pressure on Mexico rather than to invite a war without near neighbor.
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  Venezuela is more vulnerable there, and Venezuela is a bit further away, and it's more close to the hub, and it's got a very, very large Russian and Chinese and cartel presence.
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  Venezuela is more of a base, actually, than Mexico is.
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  And so, yeah, I'm all about taking down the Mexican cartels, but I think it's wise to go after Venezuela first.
• 19:33
  Well, I think at this point, I want to uh bring up a very what I consider to be a very cogent and profound point that you pointed out to me some time back, and I don't think enough people really realize uh what's going on here.
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  Uh the the the drug cartels, the cocaine, the fentanyl, uh all of this that is being run up into the United States is.
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  Killing off our young population, our younger people.
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  And the what escapes most people is they don't realize this is a concerted effort to deprive us of military age recruits.
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  This is to deprive us of a uh thriving military.
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  If we don't have enough young people to fill the posts, that makes us vulnerable.
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  Go.
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  Yeah, look.
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  The communists, here's an example.
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  The communists have been targeting the Boy Scouts for a century and have basically destroyed that organization.
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  A great military training ground, a wonderful American institution that is now a shadow of itself because the communists destroyed it.
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  Now, apply that principle in other ways, fentanyl.
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  180,000, 60,000, 70,000.
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  That's 60 or 70,000 people a year who are never going to serve in uniform, who are never going to defend the country.
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  You know, who are uh the their deaths are a big drain.
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  Their their criminal behavior because they're on drugs is a big drain.
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  You know, drugs have been weaponized against the United States for many decades and primarily by the communists.
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  It was the great book, Red Cocaine by the late Joseph Douglas, detailed how the Czechs, the Cubans, and the Soviets came up with a plan to flood America with drugs back in the early 60s and to weaponize drugs against America.
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  They knew that it would kill many young Americans.
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  It would corrupt the country.
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  It would make us less productive and effective.
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  You know, look, look, uh I know, you know, I talked to employers in this country.
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  Your restaurant employees, for instance.
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  Half their kids are on drugs.
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  They don't turn up for work.
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  They're not reliable.
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  You know, these are not the kind of kids who would storm the beaches of Normandy or take Iwo Jima in World War II because the drugs have killed many of them, and B, the drugs have made them so less effective and efficient and reliable.
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  These are all military implications.
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  It's not just drugs, isn't just about making money.
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  Drugs is about destroying America's capability of uh economic growth and defending itself.
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  It's a very deliberate policy, and it's no wonder that the communists like Maduro have used it extensively over the years.
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  It's money and it's destroying America.
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  It's the ideal solution.
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  It's a strategic maneuver.
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  It's it's not uh it's not random uh at all.
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  No, it's a very look, it's not greedy cartels, it's communists who work with greedy cartels, just like they work, the communists work with cartels to ship people across the border.
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  It's not the cartels doing it by themselves.
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  The communists are using the cartels to do this.
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  Right.
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  Now, before we get to the uh break here, I want to real quickly uh um I'm looking at an article from the Hill publication uh from January.
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  Now the date on this is really important.
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  January 10th of 2025.
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  This is 10 days before Trump is inaugurated.
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  And the article on the Hill reads the U.S.
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  hits Venezuela with new sanctions after Maduro's illegitimate inauguration.
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  So the Biden administration up the ante from, I think it was uh from 15 million dollars for uh uh reward, and they upped it to 25 million, leading to his arrest or conviction, etc.
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  They also uh uh were uh putting out uh uh warrants for uh some of the other uh Venezuelan officials and leading uh uh people in the high higher end of the government, etc.
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  So you know, the Biden administration was setting this up before Trump ever came into office.
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  It's very interesting to me that uh we have a no kings movement in this country, and now suddenly they're defending uh a dictator in South America.
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  Uh yeah, but there are uh a couple of Democrats that have uh sort of bucked the party uh and are and are taking the side of Trump on this arrest.
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  One is Eric Adams, the former mayor of New York, uh Debbie Wasserman Schultz uh down in Florida, uh, and John Fetterman.
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  Uh there may be others as well.
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  Uh, but uh uh the Biden administration set all this up.
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  So I think it's really cheeky of the Democrats to claim that by that uh Trump didn't have the authority to go in and take him out.
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  Apparently, his uh protection as a uh there's something about a head of state protection, but he was stripped of that, and I forgive me, I don't remember if it was Biden or Trump that did that, but they took that protection away when they declared him the head of a narco-terrorist organization.
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  Go.
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  Yeah, look, look, this is entirely legal.
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  You know, the Democrats took out uh Gaddafi and and uh Libya, right?
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  The Democrats will the trouble is the Democrats take out people who are our allies and leave in place people who are enemies.
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  And I I got to commend the Biden administration for at least taking notice of Maduro, but the Biden administration worked with communists in all sorts of ways in every other angle and enacted the communist largest policy for taking down America of open borders.
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  So it's a bit of a, you know, but in any administration, there's a few good guys and a few bad guys, and there must have been a few good guys in the Biden administration hiding in some obscure places somewhere.
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  And and uh so but yes, the stage has been set.
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  But look, what has just happened was an arrest of a criminal.
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  And um the United States president and an enemy of the United States.
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  And an enemy of the United States.
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  And the United States president for over 60 years now has had authority to launch military actions without referencing Congress.
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  Um, but Congress has powers to come back in 60 days to you know review it and cancel it, etc.
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  But, you know, it's a fate accomplished.
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  You know, Trump went in there and did what had to be done.
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  Well, the the brave men and maybe women of the US uh armed forces did what had to be done under his direction.
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  And and full credit to all of them.
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  What a professional operation.
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  So this is uh very legitimate, very good move.
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  My only concerns are what comes next.
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  Is this gonna be fully utilized to its potential, or is this great thing gonna be squandered and uh lost through half measures?
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  Well, I think after we come back from the break, uh that uh we will pick up on that.
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  And we're we're gonna take a short break here, uh Trevor.
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  But the the icing on the cake for all of this, oh excuse me, is uh everything just fell over.
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  Uh the icing on the cake on this is the Biden Harris administration arrested Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernandez for drug trafficking and extradited him to the United States.
• 27:38
  Yeah, exactly.
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  And Trump pardoned him.
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  So it makes you wonder if how how real those charges were.
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  Right.
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  But for them to claim that.
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  Right.
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  But for them to claim that Trump doesn't have the authority to do this is pretty cheeky on their part.
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  All right, we're gonna take a break.
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  Exactly.
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  We're gonna take a break, folks.
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  When we come back, we have a lot more to dissect.
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  This again is a huge um turning point, I think, in world history, or has the potential to be.
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  And we're living in in you know, the Chinese say, may you live in interesting times.
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  I think we're there, Trevor.
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  We are.
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  Sometimes a bit of boring would be nice, but but look, it's I'm glad to be alive today.
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  The potential upside is amazing.
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  The potential downside is horrific, but the upside is amazing, and what a what a time to be alive.
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  There we go.
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  We'll be back in just a few minutes, folks.
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• 32:31
  All right, folks, welcome back to the second half of the Trevor Louden uh broadcast here.
• 32:37
  I'm Brad Zinn, and we've kind of switched roles uh for today, anyway, where I am interviewing Trevor over the uh uh recent events uh that have shaken up the world.
• 32:50
  And uh that involves uh Venezuela, the United States, Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, and and lots of other places.
• 32:58
  Listen, uh Trevor, we were talking about the upsides and the downsides.
• 33:03
  Um you know, uh Trump was taking out all these drug boats, and Maduro was really being very defiant uh about all of this uh and said he was gonna kick the teeth of the United States.
• 33:16
  Um and get me, he said.
• 33:19
  Come and get me.
• 33:20
  Yeah, he said, yeah, what are you waiting for?
• 33:21
  Come and get me.
• 33:23
  Um and uh I thought it was interesting.
• 33:26
  I didn't realize this uh until after the raid, of course, and they arrested Maduro, but apparently uh Maduro's security was not provided by Venezuelan guards.
• 33:38
  These were Cubans, and apparently the US military took out about 30 or 32 Cubans that were providing security for Maduro.
• 33:47
  I thought that was a revelation to me.
• 33:49
  Yeah, look, I knew that.
• 33:51
  Uh this the Cubans uh more much more control.
• 33:55
  The Cubans, the Russians and Chinese, the Mongiro is really served was serving at their pleasure.
• 34:01
  You know, he might have been the president, but he couldn't trust his own people to protect him.
• 34:06
  It's just like um, you know, Rocket Boy in North Korea doesn't have North Korean personal bodyguards, he has Russian personal bodyguards.
• 34:15
  You know, because you you can't trust your your own folks.
• 34:19
  Well, and and and uh Rocket Boy has executed some of his own people uh in his inner circle.
• 34:26
  I mean, that's a dangerous job to take.
• 34:29
  Oh, yeah, look, and how many of Putin's friends have fallen out of windows?
• 34:33
  Yeah, but the this is this Maduro is a communist, hard core communist.
• 34:41
  And um Maduro is a communist, a hardcore communist, and like all communists, they can't trust their own people because their own people hate them, so they have to get other communist regimes to supply the security personnel.
• 34:57
  Like we all know the Cuban intelligence services were run by the Soviets because the Cuban Fidel Castro couldn't trust Cubans because they might conspire against them because they're the ones living in poverty.
• 35:11
  So you you bring in Russians.
• 35:12
  This is a common pattern around the communist world.
• 35:16
  Right.
• 35:17
  Well, let's talk about the new interim leader, Delcy Rodriguez, uh, who has uh apparently taken the helm in Venezuela after Maduro and his wife were arrested.
• 35:29
  Uh and I'm looking at an article here now that says uh Venezuela's new interim leader, Delcy Rodriguez, quote, hates the West, ex-official Warren's, daughter of Marxist guerrilla leader previously sanctioned by U.S.
• 35:43
  Treasury as well as gold smuggling allegations.
• 35:46
  So it's going to be interesting to see how cooperative she is.
• 35:51
  Well, I can't imagine she'll be very cooperative.
• 35:54
  See, and this is what what comes next.
• 35:56
  She's still a leader of the uh the the Venezuelan Socialist Party, which is a communist party.
• 36:01
  So it's like going into um, you know, taking down Nazi Germany, uh, but leaving um, you know, Bormann or somebody in Martin Bullmann in power.
• 36:12
  Or debbles, yeah.
• 36:13
  Yeah, Goebbels or someone like that.
• 36:15
  So, no, this has got to be uh a full change enforced here.
• 36:19
  And Trump hasn't ruled out, you know, um secondary sanctions.
• 36:24
  See, this is the thing.
• 36:25
  What's gonna happen is this is gonna be a one-off, a big splash, and we get Maduro and put them on trial and extract information, all of which is valuable, but we allow the structure to stay in place.
• 36:38
  And, you know, and and allow the Chinese to still keep extracting or taking buying oil and the Russians to still hold their um major investment in energy infrastructure there.
• 36:50
  Are we gonna do see Trump's got a little bit?
• 36:52
  This is where I'm concerned.
• 36:54
  You know, when when uh the Israelis took out the uh Iran's well, well, the Israelis and America took out you know, Iran's nuclear infrastructure.
• 37:04
  The Israelis were all ready to take out the rest of um Iran's military, but Trump held them back.
• 37:11
  That could have ended the Iranian regime when Israel was about to finish off Hamas, Trump held them back, and now Hamas is rebuilt to almost the same strength that was before the war.
• 37:24
  So is Trump gonna follow this through, kick the stop selling oil to China, kick the Russians out of there, and set the stage for a freedom revolution across all of Latin America and around the world.
• 37:40
  I know the Iranian protesters right now have named one of their biggest streets, Donald Trump Street, because they see hope.
• 37:48
  This has given them hope.
• 37:50
  Cubans will be getting ready to revolt right now because they see they can be next.
• 37:55
  They can finally get rid of the communists, or is Trump going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, allow uh uh Rodriguez to stay in place, not really make any fundamental changes, and not kick not get rid of the Chinese and the Russians, or is he gonna follow this through?
• 38:14
  That is the critical question here.
• 38:18
  Well, and uh, you know, Trump seems to be for the most part um focusing on the Western hemisphere, uh, Greenland, Colombia, Cuba, etc.
• 38:29
  Uh, with one exception, and uh, and that's Iran, and of course, Iran has uh uh their uh the the uh mullahs have said they're gonna run to Russia if uh if they have nowhere else to go uh if the uh protest but you know this could spark a worldwide um uh you know, we haven't seen anything like this since since the triumvirate of Reagan and Thatcher and Pope John Paul.
• 38:55
  Yeah, yeah.
• 38:56
  You know, that this is this is this could uh be huge, but you are correct, sir.
• 39:01
  There is uh a very uh real possibility that Trump is getting advice from some pro.
• 39:09
  I I don't I I don't I hesitate to say pro-Russian, but but uh uh call call it what you will uh people that don't want him to engage in in uh wider uh confrontations.
• 39:23
  Yeah.
• 39:23
  I think what the word you're searching for, uh Brad is traitors.
• 39:27
  Oh, okay.
• 39:29
  Look, look, there are people around Trump who are pro-Russia.
• 39:33
  That is that's a fact.
• 39:35
  There are people around Trump who defend dictators like Tulsi Gabbard, uh, who who openly said we shouldn't be involved in regime change in Venezuela, who's worked with pro-Russians with communists in very recent times, who has built her career off the back of communists, and she's now Trump's director of national intelligence.
• 39:55
  There's still the the uh influence of
• 40:00
  Of pro-Russian people like Jack Posobak and Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson on the Trump administration.
• 40:06
  There are people in the State Department in that same in that same vein.
• 40:11
  And I I believe there's a war going on inside the Trump administration, and it's this.
• 40:16
  There are those like Marco Rubio and a few others who understand that Russia can never be our partner, that we can't, uh, that Russia is as evil and as communists as it's ever been and is working with China and Iran to bring us down, to destroy us.
• 40:35
  And there are those who who are pro-Russia, who are devotees of Curtis, the philosopher Curtis Yarvin, or Alexander Dugan, the Russian philosopher and communist and Nazi who who uh who believe that um we should divide the world into three spheres of influence.
• 40:55
  The Russians should get Europe, the Chinese should get the Far East, and uh America gets the Western Hemisphere.
• 41:02
  Now you could take what Trump is doing, re-establishing the the Monroe doctrine as an application of these Yavanist Duganist theories.
• 41:14
  And and there are those who seriously pr propose the proposition that Trump's gonna take Venezuela, but he's gonna give up Ukraine to the Russians.
• 41:24
  That Trump is not going to defend Taiwan, he's gonna give up China to he's gonna kick the Chinese and the Russians out of the Western hemisphere, but he's gonna allow them to set up their kingdoms in the in Europe and Asia.
• 41:38
  Now that is the that is what Yavin is proposing.
• 41:42
  That is what some of the people around Trump believe in, but there are some people around Trump who want to follow the Reagan way of doing things.
• 41:51
  Now is the time to end the evil empire.
• 41:54
  This is a critical question here, because if Trump allows the Russians and the Chinese to still keep buying uh Venezuelan oil, that'll be the test.
• 42:04
  That'll tell you that he really doesn't want to bring them down.
• 42:08
  He wants to divide the world up amongst the three great powers.
• 42:13
  If Trump carries on and stops the Chinese buying the oil, it goes hard on the Russians, and I was very gratified to see that he seized a Russian oil ship just just in the last few hours.
• 42:27
  Um if he does that and follows that, you're gonna see Reagan look you're gonna Reagan's gonna look like a uh uh a wimp.
• 42:36
  You know, look, Trump has the potential here, the opportunity to bring down the evil empire in our time to spread freedom across the world without firing hardly a shot and and using our economic muscle and our spiritual and and uh uh spiritual and and prestige, you know, uh national prestige to advance the cause of freedom and basically topple the Russian, the Chinese, the North Korean, the Maduro, the Cuban, the Brazilian regimes and bring and advance freedom across the world.
• 43:18
  If Trump follows through with Venezuela and really goes hard on the Russians and the Chinese, we can think that he's on the right track.
• 43:29
  If he lets them stay in place, and this is really just all for show, um, then we know that he's compromised.
• 43:38
  I think that's really what it comes down to.
• 43:41
  Right.
• 43:41
  I'm looking at an article here on MSN uh news website, viral Tulsi Gabbard post urging US to stay out of Venezuela, sparks fury after Maduro raid.
• 43:52
  So, you know, uh you are absolutely correct, and you've been on Tulsi Gabbard's back since the beginning here.
• 44:00
  Um and and you've never really led up on that.
• 44:03
  But no, my views have not changed.
• 44:05
  She is a she has worked with communists, she's worked with pro-Russian people, the American Communist Party leaders like Jackson Hinkle.
• 44:14
  She has worked in favor of the Venezuelans, in favor of the North Koreans, she is an absolute security risk, uh, has been working with communists her entire political career, and uh shouldn't be anywhere near government.
• 44:28
  She shouldn't be working in a post office, let alone being um director of national intelligence.
• 44:34
  And I hoped uh well it I I think this is this I don't think she was involved in the planning of this raid.
• 44:42
  Uh, because if she was there, um I wouldn't trust it not to be leaked, put it that way.
• 44:48
  Exactly.
• 44:49
  And uh just uh because we may have some new listeners, uh Curtis Yarvin and and uh Dugan.
• 44:56
  Can you give us just uh the uh um readers digest version of who these two people are?
• 45:03
  Just briefly what what is their background, why are they important?
• 45:07
  Look, Dugan is a Russian philosopher.
• 45:10
  He was the son of a Russian military intelligence officer who was recruited and was heavily into drugs and Satanism as a young man.
• 45:20
  I've got I've gone I can prove that I've got videos of him praising Alistair Crowley, you know, whole at a ceremony honoring Alistair Crowley.
• 45:29
  And he was recruited by the KGB and worked with the head of the Russian Communist Party and also Russian Nazis to found what they call a national Bolshevik movement.
• 45:41
  That's a combination of Nazism and communism that aims to destroy the West and establish a socialist republic stretching all the way from Vladivostok in Siberia across Canada and the Northern Hemisphere, China gets the United States, by the way, in this scenario.
• 46:00
  He is openly called for revolution and civil war in the United States.
• 46:05
  Um he is uh an advisor.
• 46:09
  His books are read by the Russian military chief of staffs.
• 46:13
  He was an advisor to Putin and the head of the Russian Communist Party in recent times, Gennady Zuganov, but he's got massive influence around the world.
• 46:23
  Many of the mass shooters we see around the world are followers of Alexander Dugan, the mass the guy who killed 50 Muslims, for instance, in Christchurch, Brenton Tarrant, he was a follower of this national Bolshevik ideology.
• 46:38
  The young man who um shot up the uh supermarket in Buffalo, New York was also a follower of this, as was the man who shot up the the um uh the uh Walmart in El Paso.
• 46:53
  There this this is he's a very violent vile figure, but he's admired by people like Tucker Carlson, by Jack Pasobek, by Jackson Hinkle, by Nick Fuentes, and several people in the US government.
• 47:12
  Uh and and he advocates multipolarity.
• 47:15
  He's the one who says the world should be divided in spheres of influence, the Russian sphere, the Chinese sphere, the Iranian sphere, uh, the American sphere.
• 47:24
  But what we know is that as soon as that happens, all the bad guys will join to destroy us.
• 47:31
  It's a scam.
• 47:34
  I'm sorry, I was gonna say you're and you're never gonna hear this on the lame stream media.
• 47:39
  No, you're not.
• 47:40
  Look, look at the Carlson interviewed Alexander Dugan, who's one of the most evil men on the planet who calls for the destruction of the US and made him seem like Grandpa Walton.
• 47:51
  Now, real quick, Curtis Yarvin, because I want to get into Ukraine and a couple other things.
• 47:56
  So Curtis Yarvin is the American Dugan, right?
• 48:00
  Curtis Yarvin believes in this, uh, the end of the U.S.
• 48:03
  constitution.
• 48:04
  We've got to go back to feudalism, Marxism is grand grandson of communists.
• 48:11
  We've got to get Marxism, Leninism is the best system in the world, and we've got a America's got we've got to go multipolar, you know.
• 48:20
  Echoing Dugan exactly.
• 48:21
  Dugan praises Yarvin.
• 48:24
  Yavin is, but Yavin has influence through people like Peter Thiel.
• 48:28
  He has influence uh through um J.D.
• 48:32
  Vance.
• 48:33
  He has influenced through Tucker Carlson.
• 48:35
  Uh the the Groipers, many of these young groupers, in Nick Fuentes types are big fans of Jarvin, and he's made a lot of uh leeway in the young sections of the conservative movement and in many people around Trump.
• 48:51
  Many people around Trump are Yavanites.
• 48:53
  And um Yavan is just the American Dugan.
• 48:56
  So this is why I say there are two wars, there's a war going on in the Trump administration between the Reagan conservatives and the Yavan pro-Russian um anti-constitutionalist woke right radicals.
• 49:12
  There's a war going on there, and we've got to get rid of the the Tucker Carlson is one of the main woke writers there.
• 49:20
  We've got to get rid of these people and get back to the more Reagan view.
• 49:24
  If the if the Reagan view prevails, we can end the evil evil empire.
• 49:29
  If the Yavan view prevails, we become part of it until they destroy us.
• 49:34
  I I love the idea that socialism is always one execution away from utopia.
• 49:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 49:42
  So uh listen, I want to get into uh and we don't have a lot of time left.
• 49:46
  So, real quickly, uh we've talked about Ukraine possibly being a bargaining ship.
• 49:52
  Uh recently, European leaders have gotten uh pretty strongly behind Ukraine.
• 49:58
  I see uh uh
• 50:00
  A uh uh headline here.
• 50:02
  Finish uh the Finnish president uh proposes to arm Ukraine to the teeth.
• 50:08
  There seems to be a lot of teeth involved in diplomacy these days.
• 50:12
  We're either going to arm them to the teeth or we're gonna kick them in the teeth.
• 50:15
  But uh the European leaders seem to be solidly behind Ukraine.
• 50:20
  Uh, many of them are you know it's many of them are, especially the Finns, the Poles, the Baltics.
• 50:28
  Um, some of them are not, like Hungary's not the Czech, the leader of the Czech, they're more pro-Russian, but many of the European leaders are because they they know they're next.
• 50:39
  The Russians are talking.
• 50:40
  This is what the Russians want.
• 50:42
  That's in their own documents, and I can prove this.
• 50:45
  They want all of Eastern Europe and Central Europe.
• 50:49
  They want the Middle East, they want uh the Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, etc.
• 50:54
  They want large chunks of Africa and large chunks of Latin America under their military control by 2050.
• 51:02
  This is what they actually write.
• 51:05
  Um, and I can prove that.
• 51:08
  Well, and this goes back uh one more time, uh Trevor, to Dr.
• 51:12
  Fred C.
• 51:13
  Schwartz's formula for world conquest by the communist party.
• 51:17
  Uh external encirclement plus internal demoralization, plus the threat of thermonuclear war leads to an equals progressive surrender.
• 51:27
  So exactly.
• 51:28
  And and Venezuela was that exactly that's part of the external threat.
• 51:34
  And now that Trump has seized the Russian ship, they're talking about nuclear war again.
• 51:39
  Exactly.
• 51:40
  They do.
• 51:42
  Look at this is my view.
• 51:43
  Stand up to the Russians, you risk nuclear war.
• 51:46
  Don't stand up to the Russians, you guarantee nuclear war.
• 51:50
  Thank you.
• 51:51
  Now, real quick, I want to uh yeah, no, never surrender.
• 51:57
  Okay, now there's a very interesting aspect to this.
• 52:01
  Uh, and you know that I spent two and a half years, uh, I created an organization here in Arizona called Verify the Vote uh Arizona, yeah and worked very closely with Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote down in uh Texas.
• 52:16
  And uh one of the things that we uh were concerned with were the uh voting machines, the you know uh the machines that could possibly be hacked and changed and what have you.
• 52:29
  Well, at the time, uh back in 2010, 11 and 12, when I was active with this, uh the uh machine was uh the company was called CITEL, SCYTL, CITLE.
• 52:43
  And CITEL was then eventually bought by Dominion.
• 52:48
  And Dominion apparently uh had something to do with the election of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, which was the precursor to uh uh Maduro, and uh Dominion machines are also used here in the United States.
• 53:05
  Now, recently, recently, and I don't know if you saw this, but Dominion here in the United States has been bought by a Republican former election official, and this uh uh holds promise now.
• 53:21
  I I don't know.
• 53:22
  We'll have to see how this plays out.
• 53:24
  But the problem has always been with these machines is that the owners have claimed that the the software, the code, if you will, was proprietary, and therefore they would not allow an outside independent third party to verify the machines.
• 53:43
  They would always self-certify.
• 53:46
  Well, now what what could possibly go?
• 53:48
  What could possibly go wrong with that?
• 53:51
  So now, if this is owned by a conservative, hopefully Republican, uh, we may see that an independent third party is now allowed to so uh to certify the validity of the machines.
• 54:04
  Uh if they're anywhere near the internet, if there's Wi-Fi involved in these machines, they can be hacked remotely.
• 54:11
  And the problem has been that the code, and I know people don't believe this, but there was congressional testimony to this effect.
• 54:20
  Uh, and they've scrubbed the video from the from YouTube.
• 54:24
  I I looked for it.
• 54:25
  But uh why at one time I had the video that showed that they the code was written to activate at a certain time or vote count, etc.
• 54:36
  It would change the votes, and then the code would eat itself so that you could never do a forensic search and find anything.
• 54:45
  It would eat itself and disappear.
• 54:47
  And so they could, you know, conveniently say, oh no, nothing's happening, you know, nothing's changed.
• 54:52
  It's legitimate, but we're seeing that the there's a lot of um uh suspicion, and I'm hoping that this uh uh sale uh to this Republican ex-election official will uh manifest itself in some positive way.
• 55:08
  The problem is the courts are are preventing uh certain things from happening because uh which is somewhat legitimate that you cannot nationalize elections.
• 55:19
  The uh the administration of elections is always left up to the states.
• 55:24
  So we we have to find a way to make it happen.
• 55:27
  But uh it's look if every red state should be banning all machines.
• 55:32
  Simple as that.
• 55:33
  This is a pivotal time and uh and a pivotal time of world history, and this is where God manifests, and but we have to do our part and carrying this forward.
• 55:45
  No half measures, no cowardice here.
• 55:48
  Faith and courage are gonna carry us through.
• 55:51
  So my message to President Trump is keep going, sir.
• 55:55
  Just keep this rolling.
• 55:58
  And to all the prayer warriors out there, of course, we want uh President Trump to do the right thing, but God hears prayers, and so uh I would uh I would uh like to encourage those of you listening, say a prayer for the United States, but also say a prayer for Venezuela, because they can possibly lead a spiritual revolution through Latin America, Central and South America that could literally change the world that we live in and uh uh and bring about a uh uh a revival of faith like the the likes of which we haven't seen.
• 56:36
  Uh Trevor, I think we're out of time, and uh uh may I tell you that my respect and admiration for you is without limit and uh boundless, and I am so honored and flattered that you would allow me to share your platform.
• 56:50
  God bless you, my friend, and keep up the good work.
• 56:53
  Thank you so much, Brad, and back at you likewise.
• 56:56
  It's uh an honor to know you soon.