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Ep. 395: Rut Fresh Radio 12/9/20 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm
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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. Today in the show, we're here
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Speaker 1: for rut Fresh Radio, in which we're getting updates from
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Speaker 1: hunters all across the country on the latest deer activity,
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Speaker 1: current conditions, and the tactics that can work for you.
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Speaker 1: Right now, all right, welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Wired Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X and UH.
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Speaker 1: It's a rout Fresh radio day. We are still on
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Speaker 1: it getting updates from all across the country on what's
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Speaker 1: happening in the white Tail woods. And at this time
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Speaker 1: of the year, it's not really you know, rut related,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be more are so weather related, It's
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Speaker 1: going to be more so what's the food source, deer
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Speaker 1: feeding on different things like that, because we're we're into
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Speaker 1: their late season. This is this is that time of
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Speaker 1: year where if you've got certain things in your favor,
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Speaker 1: you could be in for some great hunts. If you
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Speaker 1: don't have those things in your favor, it might be
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Speaker 1: really rough. Um, something that's nice to have in your
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Speaker 1: favor is to have some friends that have got a
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Speaker 1: primo property that they invite you to go hunt and
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Speaker 1: and and chase and explore big bucks on and Spencer.
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Speaker 1: I here, that's what you have been up to recently?
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Speaker 1: Have you been putting together a beautiful case study for
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Speaker 1: us and how to kill a big, old, mega giant
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Speaker 1: buck in December? Ah? Man? After this last week, Um,
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Speaker 1: it seems pretty simple. So I just got home from Kansas. UM.
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Speaker 1: I was haunting with our friends Nate and Thomas Crick
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Speaker 1: from Identical Jaw. You've heard them on rut Fresh radio before,
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Speaker 1: maybe even on the regular podcast. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: they have been on an episode or not, Mark Um,
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Speaker 1: but they they bought um eighty acres in Kansas and
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Speaker 1: decided they were going to turn into a deer mecca.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of anybody doing anything like that? Mark?
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Speaker 1: You know, I've heard someone trying to do it in
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Speaker 1: a slightly less interesting state than Kansas. Um. They did,
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Speaker 1: all right, but maybe not as big of bucks as
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Speaker 1: the Kansas eighty. Sure yep, So those guys might be
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Speaker 1: something that rhymes with back forth it that's right, that's right.
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Speaker 1: So those guys invited me down to come and hunt
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Speaker 1: their Kansas ad property this fall. And so I went
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Speaker 1: down there for gone season, and now I came home
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Speaker 1: with my biggest buck of the year. You know, from
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Speaker 1: a tactics standpoint, we knew that there was going to
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Speaker 1: be good movement here. These guys have had this property
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Speaker 1: for a few years, and they were telling me that
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Speaker 1: last December and last January, their trail cameras had big
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Speaker 1: bucks um like damn near every day in December and January.
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Speaker 1: And it's for one big reason. They had the best food.
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Speaker 1: While everyone else um had picked corn and picked soybeans,
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Speaker 1: these guys had standing soybeans, they had clover, and they
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Speaker 1: had brassicas, and the deer really wanted to be there.
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Speaker 1: Um And and their trail cameras almost function as many
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Speaker 1: people's do doing the row when new new bucks are
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Speaker 1: showing up, and you're like learning about these bucks that
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Speaker 1: are in the neighborhood and they're just like passing through
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Speaker 1: the property. Well, for them, that happens right now because
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Speaker 1: they have the best food. Um And and that's how
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Speaker 1: we ended up killing this deer. We killed him on
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Speaker 1: the fifth night, and we'd hunted every day in morning
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Speaker 1: and evening, and after the second morning, we had kind
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Speaker 1: of decided like, we probably shouldn't even be in here
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Speaker 1: in the morning. This property just doesn't set up well
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Speaker 1: to kill a buck in the morning. December morning hunts
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Speaker 1: are already hard enough the way it is, even when
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Speaker 1: you have like a manicured property for white tails, it's
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Speaker 1: still really hard to do. So after that second morning,
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Speaker 1: we're like, we're just going to do more harm and
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Speaker 1: good if we're in here, So we're gonna leave it
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Speaker 1: alone in the mornings. And then I went hunted some
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Speaker 1: public ground nearby um. But each evening the deer did
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Speaker 1: what we wanted them to. They showed up to this
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Speaker 1: beans and brassicas plot. They were looking for what was
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Speaker 1: the best food in the area, and we were waiting
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Speaker 1: their form. We knew logically that if we were there
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Speaker 1: every single night, at some point the mature buck was
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Speaker 1: going to slip up and show up in daylight. And
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Speaker 1: that's what happened. How what kind of like quantity of
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Speaker 1: food are we talking like? So something that people often
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Speaker 1: ask is is how much good food d you need
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Speaker 1: to actually draw deer in the way that these guys
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Speaker 1: were able to? Are we talking him half acre food
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Speaker 1: plot or is this twenty acres of food? So this,
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Speaker 1: if you look at aerial, it looks pretty insignificant because
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Speaker 1: you're surrounded by thousands and thousands of acres of egg land.
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Speaker 1: But when all that egg land is suddenly picked over, um,
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Speaker 1: and there's not much around. All the deer came to
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Speaker 1: this property and they had three different plots. Two of
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Speaker 1: them were pretty small, like less than a half acre,
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Speaker 1: and the one that we ended up hunting was three
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Speaker 1: and a half acres. That was all it took to
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Speaker 1: like draw in all these deer from all over this neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: And when you say all these deer, I mean, are
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Speaker 1: you seeing five deer and night? Are you seeing fifteen
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Speaker 1: deer and night? What kind of quantity? Yeah, five to fifteen.
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Speaker 1: They had said that their deer density is kind of low.
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Speaker 1: Right there. They had some of the q d m
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Speaker 1: A s q d m A guys come out and
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Speaker 1: walk their property and looked at their trail cameras and
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Speaker 1: sort of assess the deal. And they had told him
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Speaker 1: that they were shocked by um, the lack of deer
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Speaker 1: that were kind of in the area. Now, this property
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Speaker 1: used to be a cattle property. Deer kind of have
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Speaker 1: right like a shared memory of an area, And so
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Speaker 1: there could be five and a half six and a
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Speaker 1: half yield bucks walking around that have never known this
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Speaker 1: property as anything other than a cattle property. So while
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Speaker 1: this December, you know, we were only seeing five fifteen
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Speaker 1: deer a night out there, I could see in five
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Speaker 1: years for these guys that it's double that number, just
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Speaker 1: because more and more dear are going to know about
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Speaker 1: this and they're going to be there for him. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Another question I had for you, and it's related to
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Speaker 1: that whole December morning thing. You know, we've talked about
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Speaker 1: this in past episodes in past years, UM, but a
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Speaker 1: lot of people wonder like should I be hunting the
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Speaker 1: mornings at this time of the year. Um. In this case,
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Speaker 1: you said that it was just you're you're maybe doing
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Speaker 1: more harm than good. Can you elaborate on why this
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Speaker 1: spot was not setting up well for a late season
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Speaker 1: morning hunt. I'm I'm not even sure like what a
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Speaker 1: good property sets up at sets up as as a
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Speaker 1: late season morning hunt. I think ideally, if you wanted
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Speaker 1: to have a good late season morning set, you would
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Speaker 1: need some sort of distance between where they're betting and
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Speaker 1: where their food is. Um. So if I were to
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Speaker 1: think about um, like creating a property, you would be
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Speaker 1: some food like they had, which is being Subraska's, and
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Speaker 1: then maybe like some crp between that food and timber
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Speaker 1: um where they have to kind of pass through every
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Speaker 1: single morning. Now, this property didn't have that. It was
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Speaker 1: straight timber right to the food, and so deer would
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Speaker 1: pop out and they would be on top of you,
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Speaker 1: and so it was just like such a tiny window
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Speaker 1: where the deer would be visible before they'd be going
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Speaker 1: off to bed. Even when you have like a great
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Speaker 1: property like this, there's just very few situations, I think,
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Speaker 1: where you're gonna find like a really good set up
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Speaker 1: in December for white tails. Yeah, it's tough. There's there's
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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of room for air at this
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Speaker 1: point in the season, especially in those mornings. Um. So
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Speaker 1: I'm glad that persistence paid off for you. You You got
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Speaker 1: you gotta walk me through the details at least of
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Speaker 1: the last night. So you sat the same being plot
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Speaker 1: five nights in a row. Uh, tell me the exact setup, Like,
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Speaker 1: how were you set up in relation to where you
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Speaker 1: on the opposite side from the betting, where you on
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Speaker 1: the same side of the field as the betting. You know,
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Speaker 1: did these were the deer flooding out there the whole
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Speaker 1: right or was it the last two minutes of the
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Speaker 1: day kind of thing? What the hell did this buck
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Speaker 1: look like? Spencer? Paint me a picture? Okay, So before
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Speaker 1: I got down there, these guys were sending me some
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Speaker 1: trail camp pictures, like here's some of the bucks that
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Speaker 1: are around. But keep in mind that again, new deer
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Speaker 1: tend to show up for us. In December, one of
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Speaker 1: the last trail camp photo was they sent there, like,
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Speaker 1: this is one of our o G bucks. This is
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Speaker 1: one that's been around since we bought the property two
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Speaker 1: years ago. We would love if you were able to
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Speaker 1: kill this buck, but we've only seen him in person
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Speaker 1: one time ever, and that was in July of this year.
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Speaker 1: Other than that, they're very familiar with this deer. It's
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Speaker 1: maybe one of the deer they're most familiar with. Um
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Speaker 1: they had never really laid eyes on him in season,
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Speaker 1: so that was like the buck we hope to kill.
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Speaker 1: But um man, I wasn't gonna let like any four
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Speaker 1: and a half year old four by four walk by.
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Speaker 1: If they gave me an opportunity I was gonna kill
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Speaker 1: it on the last hunt, those four by fours. I've
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Speaker 1: got to know it's dangerous to walk past year because
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Speaker 1: that's like your kryptonite. Man. Yeah, I I don't. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna need to kill a hell of a lot more
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Speaker 1: of him before I see you on and I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna shoot it. Uh. And that wasn't the
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Speaker 1: case in Kansas. If one slipped up in front of me,
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Speaker 1: I was gonna kill him. So so you did you
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Speaker 1: end up seeing some bucks like that? Though? I feel
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Speaker 1: like on Instagram I saw that you were seeing some shooters,
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Speaker 1: but like too far out of range or not quite
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Speaker 1: a shot or what was the deal of that. So
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Speaker 1: Nate and Tom have only ever bow hunted deer. They
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Speaker 1: have never gun hunted. Um, so me rolling in with
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Speaker 1: a rifle was pretty foreign to them, and I had
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Speaker 1: explained to them. I was like, um, to kill a
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Speaker 1: deer with a gun, you basically just need to lay
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Speaker 1: eyes on them, like a rifle hunt ends where a
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Speaker 1: bow hunt begins. And so when we're overlooking this three
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Speaker 1: and a half acre plot, and if we set up
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Speaker 1: in the middle of it, and even if there's a
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Speaker 1: marginal wind. We just need a buck to like get
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Speaker 1: his front hoof in the food plot and I can
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Speaker 1: kill him. It can just end right there. Um. So like, okay,
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Speaker 1: that's great. Um. So we we ended up setting up
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Speaker 1: with some marginal winds because I'm like, we we just
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Speaker 1: need him to like show up. And so the first night,
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Speaker 1: a buck just shows up and then he slips away
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Speaker 1: into the team, right, don't get a shot. The second night,
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Speaker 1: two more um what we identified as mature bucks that
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Speaker 1: I would have killed, did the same thing, just like
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Speaker 1: showed up, almost got that front hoof in the paw,
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Speaker 1: and then disappeared after like, you know, ten seconds. Because
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Speaker 1: we were kind of hunting these marginal winds, and we
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Speaker 1: threw up a ground blind in his spot that there
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Speaker 1: hadn't been. Um. So the first two evenings we just
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Speaker 1: had the deer two suspicious. The fifth night, though the
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Speaker 1: deer had finally been fine with the blind. They were
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Speaker 1: showing up earlier. Um, they would walk, you know, within
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Speaker 1: twenty yards of the blind. They just didn't care about it.
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Speaker 1: And so when I say we had first club or
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Speaker 1: when we had close calls, um, we did because we
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Speaker 1: laid eyes on them. But I was I was exaggerating
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Speaker 1: a bit. We need to lay eyes on them, plus
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Speaker 1: get like ten seconds um where I can where I
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Speaker 1: can get the scope on him. So it was close.
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Speaker 1: It was close. On the fifth night, we had only
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Speaker 1: seen but we'd seen nothing up until sunset, absolutely nothing.
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Speaker 1: Ten minutes after sunset, one roll one small buck rolls
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Speaker 1: in um. And then we had sunset at five or
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Speaker 1: excuse me, shooting light ended at five. And and here's
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Speaker 1: what happened between five twenty and five twenty six. We
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Speaker 1: had eight more dear roll into the field and when
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Speaker 1: do do do do do do? Young buck? Um? And
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Speaker 1: then the buck that I ended up killing, which we
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Speaker 1: think is this five and a half year old buck.
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Speaker 1: He's a four by four but he's got all kinds
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Speaker 1: of jock. He has fifteen scoreable points. Um. He is
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Speaker 1: incredibly narrow. He only has um eleven and a half
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Speaker 1: inches for a with Yeah, this is just like a
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Speaker 1: straight up rack. And I think if you maybe like
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Speaker 1: caught a clinch to this buck in the timber at
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Speaker 1: some point he was just looking, you'd be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know, a young buck or whatever. But because we
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Speaker 1: had so many trail camp pictures of him, um, and
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Speaker 1: we had a chance to see in broadside and stuff. Um,
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Speaker 1: we we knew what he was. And so he rolled
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Speaker 1: out into the beans with about two minutes of shooting
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Speaker 1: light left. And this was finally the buck that allowed
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Speaker 1: us to lay our eyes on him plus give us
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Speaker 1: that ten seconds. So he rolled out too the beans
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Speaker 1: about fifty yards from where we had the blind sent up,
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Speaker 1: and he was walking quartering away. He had someplace he
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Speaker 1: wanted to be and there was some specific spot in
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Speaker 1: nebrassicas of the beans that he wanted to get to
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Speaker 1: to feed. Um, and I shot him about seventy yards
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Speaker 1: and he ran to the edge of the food plot
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Speaker 1: and died. And that was my Kansas hunt. Yeah. Wow,
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Speaker 1: you kind of couldn't write it up much better. I
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Speaker 1: mean you had a little drama and then he had
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Speaker 1: to wait all the way to the fifth day, so
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Speaker 1: it felt like you worked for it. But then, uh,
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Speaker 1: the success finally arrived and he died in sight. I
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Speaker 1: mean that's a if. Ever, there wasn't editors story coming together.
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Speaker 1: That's that's it right there, Spencer, exactly. And and we
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Speaker 1: had kind of went into that last night. Um, and
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Speaker 1: this is something you're gonna here talked about in this
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Speaker 1: week's episode of Red Fresh Radio, the weather hasn't been great.
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Speaker 1: The weather forecast coming up doesn't look great. And what
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Speaker 1: I mean by that is just like very monotonous um
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Speaker 1: above average temperatures. Where we were at in Kansas coming
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Speaker 1: up here, it was gonna get into the low seventies
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Speaker 1: this week. On that Sunday though the high was like
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Speaker 1: forty three and the low was like twenty. We had
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Speaker 1: uh sort of a stronger north wind than what we've had.
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Speaker 1: We're like, this is is probably our best shot. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna be hunting for like the next
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Speaker 1: seven days if it doesn't happen tonight, but this is
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Speaker 1: probably the night and it all worked out. That's awesome, man,
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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right now. I know market in the
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Speaker 1: past you've talked a lot about like what is the
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Speaker 1: ideal weather in December and how that can change things,
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Speaker 1: So like what should hunters be crossing their fingers for
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Speaker 1: when they open up their weather app right now? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's not terribly different than what you like
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Speaker 1: to see at the beginning of October or at the
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Speaker 1: end of October. Like I'd love to see a cold
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Speaker 1: front hitting just at this time of the year, you know,
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Speaker 1: instead of being you know, from seventy degrees to a
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Speaker 1: fifty degree day. You know, I'm looking for a thirty
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Speaker 1: five degree day dropping down to a ten degree day
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Speaker 1: or something. Obviously adjust that for wherever in the country
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Speaker 1: you live, but where we want the cold of the
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Speaker 1: temperatures the better. Uh. Usually higher bara metric pressures as
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Speaker 1: is the case you know all year, are indicative of
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Speaker 1: what you're getting after a big front like that pushes through.
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Speaker 1: So those days after the front hits where you've got
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Speaker 1: some bluebird skies, you've got that really cold weather. Finally,
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Speaker 1: maybe some snow fell. You know, the more snow the
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Speaker 1: better too. If you're in part of the country where
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Speaker 1: it gets snow, that's gonna be a really good thing
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Speaker 1: to get deer feeling like they have to feed. And
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Speaker 1: that's what you're counting on this time of year. As
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Speaker 1: you described, we need these deer to really feel the
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Speaker 1: russure to put the feedback on. Those are the nights
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Speaker 1: when more dear than usual move. It's those nights when
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Speaker 1: the big old buck that maybe doesn't want to move
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Speaker 1: in daylight a lot of the time, when he's gonna say, hey,
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Speaker 1: I gotta get going. Um, those are the days we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get that little extra push. So you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't see anything like that coming down the
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Speaker 1: line for me in Michigan. But it's certainly what you
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Speaker 1: hope for. Yeah, And so with that said, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: hear a little bit of pessimism from our guests this week.
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Speaker 1: And who we talked to is Alex comp Stock from
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Speaker 1: White Til DNA in Minnesota, Hunter Forbes in Kentucky from
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Speaker 1: Southern White Tail Outfitters, and then in Oklahoma it's Clay
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Speaker 1: Forest from Stuart Ranch Outfitters, and then Bomartinic from East
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Speaker 1: meets West Hunt in Pennsylvania. So he just killed the
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Speaker 1: dandy out there, didn't he He did? That was um
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Speaker 1: like a megabuck for any part of the country. But
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Speaker 1: then when you consider there's probably not a corner bean
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Speaker 1: field um within hunterd miles of where he killed that
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Speaker 1: buck in the mountains of Pennsylvania, that's a giant. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. Well, uh, I'm excited to hear more
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Speaker 1: about it him from him and all the rest of
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Speaker 1: the guys. So should we just get ready, you know,
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Speaker 1: hold on before we get to a Spencer, I have
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Speaker 1: to make a couple of plugs. Are you willing to
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Speaker 1: hear me out on that? Do your thing alright? Number
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Speaker 1: one back forty episodes are still coming out every Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Last weekend, my episode in which I kill my white
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Speaker 1: tail out on the back fort he came out, so
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Speaker 1: check that out. I got the drop time buck on
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Speaker 1: the ground. Finally, really cool hunt. Um. And then here
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Speaker 1: in a couple of days, our last episode of the
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Speaker 1: season will be coming out in which we brought the
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Speaker 1: Hunt giveaway winner and then a new hunter out to
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Speaker 1: the property, so you can find all that over at
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Speaker 1: the Meat Eater YouTube channel. Really proud of how those
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Speaker 1: things are turning out, so check them out. Hit a
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Speaker 1: like button on there if you could give us a
16:45
Speaker 1: comment if you want, make sure you subscribe. Um. And
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Speaker 1: then finally, there's also, as is the case, a lot
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Speaker 1: of places all over the web these days, some cool
16:53
Speaker 1: sales going on. Over at Mediator, We've got a twelve
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Speaker 1: Days of Christmas sale going on, So if you just
16:59
Speaker 1: go to the mediator dot com or check off the
17:01
Speaker 1: store over at the Mediator, you're gonna see a different
17:04
Speaker 1: product coming up for sale every day. I saw something
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Speaker 1: like or more maybe off for some of these things.
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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be T shirts, there's gonna be DVDs,
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be I don't know, all sorts of good
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Speaker 1: stuff from the mediatare folks. You can find it there.
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Speaker 1: So is there anything else? You know? If Spencer going
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Speaker 1: on that we should be telling people about. Well, if
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Speaker 1: you want to see this buck that we just talked
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Speaker 1: about that I killed in Kansas, you can held over
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Speaker 1: my Instagram at Spencer new Hearth or check out the
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Speaker 1: twins that I was hunting with. That's Nate and Thomas
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Speaker 1: Crick and their Instagram handle is at identical draw wonderful. Alright, Spencer,
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Speaker 1: I'd say take it away, talk to you next week.
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Speaker 1: Mark sounds good, alright. And joining us online first is
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Speaker 1: Alex Comstock from Whitetail DNA in Minnesota. Now Alex in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activity is ben lately
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Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, Yeah, I'd say
17:57
Speaker 1: lately has probably been about us three. It's been really
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Speaker 1: slow here um and right now conditions aren't really help.
18:04
Speaker 1: It's been abnormally warm and we have really no snow,
18:08
Speaker 1: which up here in northern Minnesota. The time of year,
18:10
Speaker 1: it's usually cold and cold and snow helps with a
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Speaker 1: hunting in. Right now, we don't have either, so it's
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Speaker 1: been pretty slow. I know, you just helped a buddy
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Speaker 1: recover a book a few days ago. Tell us about
18:20
Speaker 1: that set up, why you guys were there and why
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Speaker 1: that buck was there. Yeah, So that was my good
18:25
Speaker 1: buddy Garrett, who I do pretty much all of my
18:27
Speaker 1: all my hunting with here in Minnesota. And that was
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Speaker 1: the pretty much the one evening here in the past
18:32
Speaker 1: week or so that that we've even seen a buck.
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Speaker 1: And it just happened to work out. He actually had
18:36
Speaker 1: gone gone into a spot UM and did a hanging
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Speaker 1: hunt that we had identified the week before, and we
18:42
Speaker 1: had hung a trail camera. We had a number of
18:44
Speaker 1: bucks using the area UM pretty much all at night.
18:48
Speaker 1: And what this spot is just a little there's kind
18:50
Speaker 1: of like a little crp field that these deer kind
18:53
Speaker 1: of filter through in the evenings and the mornings headed
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Speaker 1: to to food. And we pretty much set up um
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Speaker 1: just about fourty or fifty yards off that in the
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Speaker 1: timber and Garrett was able to catch catch out this
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Speaker 1: buck coming through headed out that way right at last sight.
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Speaker 1: I mean you shot it with I think two minutes
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Speaker 1: to spare or something. And uh, I was able to
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Speaker 1: put a new buck down that just showed up in
19:16
Speaker 1: the area on camera about a week ago. Where do
19:19
Speaker 1: you run most of your trail cameras in December? So
19:22
Speaker 1: right now, if you know, if I can get them
19:23
Speaker 1: over any type of food sources. And so for me
19:26
Speaker 1: being up here in Minnesota, don't have um any agger
19:29
Speaker 1: on hunt or anything like that. If you have that,
19:31
Speaker 1: I would you recommend that. But I've got you know,
19:34
Speaker 1: stuff in the timber such as buck thorn that a
19:37
Speaker 1: lot of deer keenan on this time of year. Um.
19:40
Speaker 1: But like I had said before, with the lack of
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Speaker 1: snow right now, deer really spread out in my area.
19:44
Speaker 1: So it can be kind of challenging this time of
19:46
Speaker 1: year when you're doing some in season scouting late season,
19:50
Speaker 1: what sorts of things are you looking for? So pretty
19:52
Speaker 1: much where I'm just trying to identify as where the
19:54
Speaker 1: deer spending the most of their time feeding and then
19:57
Speaker 1: where they're betting. So I am doing a lot of
19:59
Speaker 1: in season scouting this time of year, um, especially if
20:02
Speaker 1: conditions are ever changed. So for example, last year, in
20:05
Speaker 1: the same area that I'm hunting now. We had two
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Speaker 1: ft of snow and so what the dealer were doing
20:09
Speaker 1: last year is completely different than what they're doing now.
20:12
Speaker 1: And so getting out there scouting, you know, we had
20:14
Speaker 1: a little bit of snow where I can check to
20:16
Speaker 1: see where, you know, trails that are being used frequently
20:20
Speaker 1: are being used recently and doing a lot of moving around.
20:24
Speaker 1: So I'm constantly out scouting right now, hanging new sets
20:27
Speaker 1: and kind of do it not almost daily. If you
20:29
Speaker 1: had some sort of weather event in Minnesota, would you
20:32
Speaker 1: expect to see a shift in bedding and all I
20:35
Speaker 1: would expect to see the shift in bedding if we
20:37
Speaker 1: were to get a substantial amount of snow. So pretty
20:39
Speaker 1: much Rye hunt is all on a essentially it's a
20:42
Speaker 1: humongous hill and as there's no snow, deer can in
20:46
Speaker 1: bed pretty much anywhere, and as we get more and
20:48
Speaker 1: more snow and pushes them down this huge hill towards
20:51
Speaker 1: the bottom, and that would definitely change things. Are you
20:54
Speaker 1: doing any morning hunts in December? Um? I am not
20:57
Speaker 1: doing a lot of morning hunts if it's if we're
20:59
Speaker 1: going to get you know, right now, with it being
21:01
Speaker 1: particularly warm, if we have any days where the low
21:04
Speaker 1: is going to be pretty cold and it'll be a
21:06
Speaker 1: lot warmer in the afternoon and it's gonna be in
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Speaker 1: the morning, I'll definitely try and get out for a
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Speaker 1: morning hunt. Is water focus for you at all in
21:12
Speaker 1: northern Minnesota during late season? Um? Not really for me.
21:16
Speaker 1: If there is usually at this time here, if there
21:19
Speaker 1: is any type of water, it's all frozen over. Um.
21:22
Speaker 1: And even where I'm at there's pretty much nothing for
21:24
Speaker 1: water sources for me right now. Going forward then a
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Speaker 1: next week or so, what do you think that bucket
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Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one
21:31
Speaker 1: to ten in Minnesota? I hope it can go up
21:34
Speaker 1: a few takes, hopefully about a five or six. The
21:39
Speaker 1: weather is supposed to be warm here for the next
21:41
Speaker 1: few days, and it's supposed to start dropping and getting
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Speaker 1: down into the to the twenties with lows in the
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Speaker 1: around TENLA in twelve degrees. So I'm hoping that there's
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Speaker 1: no snow in the forecast, and I'm hoping the colder
21:52
Speaker 1: temperatures will will help that that buck activity here the
21:54
Speaker 1: next week or so. All right, Alex, I hope you
21:57
Speaker 1: get that weather you're looking for good luck with what's
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Speaker 1: left your seas and then thanks for joining me, all right,
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you Spencer alright and joining us on
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Speaker 1: the line. Next is Hunter Forbes in Kentucky from Southern
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Speaker 1: White Tail Outfitters now Hunter in Kentucky. What would you say?
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Speaker 1: The bucket activity is ben lately on a scale of
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Speaker 1: one to ten, but so I'm not giving about a
22:14
Speaker 1: four as of lately. Um, because of that, we really
22:18
Speaker 1: hadn't had consistently cold weather. We finally got a little
22:21
Speaker 1: bit of it. Um, deer just recovering from rifle season
22:24
Speaker 1: and yeah, we're sitting at about a full right now. Um,
22:28
Speaker 1: hoping to improve this next week. What is the idea
22:31
Speaker 1: whether that you're looking for in Kentucky in December? Um,
22:35
Speaker 1: the colder the better. In Kentucky you're allowed to bat them.
22:38
Speaker 1: And between that and the food sources, you know, the colder,
22:41
Speaker 1: the more activity you're gonna see. Um, we're going into
22:44
Speaker 1: late musloader season this weekend, so we're just trying to
22:48
Speaker 1: hunt food sources and colder it gets, the more they
22:52
Speaker 1: got to eat. So that's kind of how we're playing it.
22:55
Speaker 1: I know you run a lot of trail cameras there
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Speaker 1: on your properties. Where do you want those in the
22:59
Speaker 1: late season. Yeah, it's sticking to food. It's pretty much
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Speaker 1: how we're playing it. We transition from mornings in November
23:07
Speaker 1: um to just afternoons UM. Going from this point forward. Uh,
23:12
Speaker 1: A lot of the key for us is access. You know,
23:14
Speaker 1: a lot of leaves are off trees, um, a lot
23:17
Speaker 1: of times are gonna bedding closer to food sources, and
23:20
Speaker 1: so a lot of what we're doing is just playing
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Speaker 1: the access smart um getting in around lunch and sticking
23:26
Speaker 1: it out the rest of the evening. So is there
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Speaker 1: a scenario in December on your properties where you'll be
23:31
Speaker 1: hunting in the mornings. Uh. Once again, it goes back
23:33
Speaker 1: to access. If you can, you know, sneaking the back
23:35
Speaker 1: doors somewhere from them going from a food source back
23:38
Speaker 1: to bank. Um, it's relevant. And also if you're noticing
23:41
Speaker 1: on your camps you're seeing some bread activity a lot
23:43
Speaker 1: of times that second run is it's starting to happen
23:46
Speaker 1: right around this time. UM, And yeah it's possible. UM.
23:51
Speaker 1: As a whole though, we try to just stick the afternoons.
23:54
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's definitely some scenarios where you can make
23:56
Speaker 1: it happen. You mentioned that the bedding seems to move
23:59
Speaker 1: closer food. How close to your food sources are we
24:02
Speaker 1: talking that these beds shift to It's kind of relevant
24:05
Speaker 1: to cover and a lot of different factors. Um depends
24:08
Speaker 1: how close, especially if you are baiting and you know
24:09
Speaker 1: how close you're putting it too bedding um. But a
24:12
Speaker 1: lot of times will be within a hundred yards UM.
24:15
Speaker 1: Ideally you'd want to stretch them a little bit further
24:17
Speaker 1: if you can play elevation, since you really don't have
24:21
Speaker 1: the foliage on the trees and stuff to be able
24:23
Speaker 1: to get in tight to that. Besides bait, what other
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Speaker 1: food sources are relevant? Right now? In Kentucky, all the
24:30
Speaker 1: good farmers already have their crops out. It seems like,
24:33
Speaker 1: so you're you got cut fields um. As far as
24:36
Speaker 1: the corn of beans go, a lot of a lot
24:38
Speaker 1: of the uh, the cut corn fields turn into wheat um.
24:43
Speaker 1: And so those are gonna be a little bit better
24:44
Speaker 1: on your warmer days. Um. It seems like they're more
24:48
Speaker 1: sole than grain when it's cold. So there is cut
24:50
Speaker 1: bean fields the corn fields um. And then like I said,
24:53
Speaker 1: that wheat grown up. And then of course whatever food
24:56
Speaker 1: plots you've done. Um. It seems like our Braskas are
24:58
Speaker 1: just starting to be hit UM definitely well after we
25:02
Speaker 1: had a couple a couple of good freezes last week.
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Speaker 1: So how do your set ups change if we have
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Speaker 1: a cold front versus a warm front in the late
25:09
Speaker 1: season or do they both look the same. For the
25:12
Speaker 1: most part, it's looking the same for us because we're
25:15
Speaker 1: mixing up our food to have it all in one
25:17
Speaker 1: um for instance, you know, putting grain out around those
25:20
Speaker 1: weed fields around our food plots. Um, having the mix
25:23
Speaker 1: of you know, your greens, um and your grain around
25:27
Speaker 1: each other, so it's kind of all in one package. UM.
25:30
Speaker 1: Kind of how we're playing it historically. Do you see
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Speaker 1: much of a secondary rout on your properties in Kentucky?
25:36
Speaker 1: We actually do. We have a pretty high deer population,
25:39
Speaker 1: a lot of dose UM. Wish it was a little
25:41
Speaker 1: bit close to ratio, but it's just not pretty hard
25:44
Speaker 1: to control for us, and so a lot of those
25:46
Speaker 1: does don't get bread they are coming back in. So yeah,
25:49
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a real thing for us. And when
25:51
Speaker 1: is that window that you're typically seeing that kind of
25:54
Speaker 1: action right right around now? It's always traditionally around that
25:57
Speaker 1: opening of the lazzlater season, which falls on Saturday for us,
26:02
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, I'm gonna say from right now,
26:04
Speaker 1: being about the nights you know running onto around the well,
26:08
Speaker 1: the fourteen is typically the uh, the peak of what
26:12
Speaker 1: we see as far as the second rut gase, it
26:13
Speaker 1: does very property property Like I said, wherever those hired
26:15
Speaker 1: deal populations for us or wherever we see it. More
26:18
Speaker 1: so going forward then in the sext week or so,
26:20
Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to
26:22
Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Kentucky?
26:25
Speaker 1: We gotta cold front coming through. Looks like we got
26:28
Speaker 1: some running Saturday, and that Sunday Monday looks pretty good.
26:31
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it, you know, sumthing up there and
26:32
Speaker 1: around the seven um that should go on, the food
26:35
Speaker 1: that should be on their feet, chasing a little bit
26:37
Speaker 1: with that secondary rut. So yeah, feel feel good about
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Speaker 1: a seven Alright, hunter, Good luck to you when your
26:42
Speaker 1: hunters in camp. Thanks for joining me, okay, specter, alright
26:47
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Clay Forest
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Speaker 1: from Stewart Ranch Outfitters in Oklahoma. Now, Clay in Oklahoma,
26:53
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been lately?
26:55
Speaker 1: On a scale of one to ten, I'm gonna give
26:58
Speaker 1: it about a five right now. Uh. And the reason
27:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that is, you know, our rut for
27:03
Speaker 1: the most part in the southern part of the state
27:05
Speaker 1: is it's pretty much all the way down, um, and
27:09
Speaker 1: a lot of bucks are kind of grouping back up
27:11
Speaker 1: and and hidden food sources. So you know, for the
27:14
Speaker 1: most part, bucks are kind of licking their wounds and uh,
27:17
Speaker 1: kind of getting back to two food sources. So it's
27:20
Speaker 1: it's not really really good, but it's not really really
27:22
Speaker 1: bad though. I almost stick with that kind of number
27:25
Speaker 1: a five, kind of mid mid range with activity in
27:28
Speaker 1: Oklahoma right now, with that high density that you have
27:31
Speaker 1: around your place, do you normally notice any kind of
27:34
Speaker 1: a secondary rutting action? We do, Uh, we will see
27:39
Speaker 1: a little bit of a of a secondary rut this
27:41
Speaker 1: time of year and really push all the way into Christmas,
27:44
Speaker 1: but it's really few and far between, and it's something
27:48
Speaker 1: that I would never count on, uh if we were
27:50
Speaker 1: if we were trying to focus on a on a
27:52
Speaker 1: trophy animal. Um, it's just it's not anything that you
27:56
Speaker 1: can kind of put your hat on. So this timing year,
27:59
Speaker 1: we're really folk sent on food sources and getting to
28:03
Speaker 1: where those bucks are trying to kind of regroup from
28:06
Speaker 1: from the rut, you know, winding down that sort of thing.
28:09
Speaker 1: So if it were me and if I you know,
28:11
Speaker 1: with with with clients and hunting personally, we're really focusing
28:15
Speaker 1: on and focus seeing on food sources. What are those
28:18
Speaker 1: food sources that you're focused on? For us, we plan
28:23
Speaker 1: about a hundred acres of small food plots and we
28:26
Speaker 1: have uh turn ups planting in those, and then winter
28:30
Speaker 1: wheat is a big food sources just in this area,
28:33
Speaker 1: so a lot of farmers and rangers plant winter wheat
28:36
Speaker 1: for for stalker cattle. So you're really focusing on those
28:40
Speaker 1: winter wheat fields or are late season food plots or
28:43
Speaker 1: we've got we can feed corn in this area too,
28:45
Speaker 1: you know, that's where a baits stay. So corn feeders
28:48
Speaker 1: are a source of food as well. But for the
28:51
Speaker 1: most part, a lot of these deer don't get too
28:53
Speaker 1: much about of corn and they're really focusing on that
28:55
Speaker 1: that green source food that winter week turn ups, oats,
28:58
Speaker 1: you know, anything that's sort of an act type field.
29:00
Speaker 1: Are you doing any kind of morning setups in December?
29:04
Speaker 1: We do um you for us in the morning. You
29:08
Speaker 1: if you're going to especially to a big winter weeks field,
29:11
Speaker 1: you gotta get in early because those deer are gonna
29:13
Speaker 1: be there early. So we will get guys in forty
29:16
Speaker 1: five minutes to an hour before day live, just because
29:18
Speaker 1: we know there's gonna be deer on the field, so
29:20
Speaker 1: we don't push them out completely. What is the ideal
29:24
Speaker 1: weather that you're looking for in December in Oklahoma? Uh,
29:28
Speaker 1: right now it's about seventies five degrees, So that's kind
29:31
Speaker 1: of a loaded question. Um, honestly, just kind of right
29:36
Speaker 1: around all that thirty five forty five degree mornings, fifty
29:40
Speaker 1: degree afternoons, if we can get some weather coming in.
29:42
Speaker 1: We've got a front coming in on Friday, so I'm
29:44
Speaker 1: sure dear will be moving in front and behind that
29:47
Speaker 1: with that pressure change. So really kind of just looking
29:49
Speaker 1: for those fronts that come through and hunting in in
29:52
Speaker 1: front of and behind those those coal fronts that are
29:54
Speaker 1: blowing through. Um, and it seems like a day or
29:56
Speaker 1: two after those fronts blows through, and whether kind of
29:59
Speaker 1: nor belizes a little bit, we really have some good
30:01
Speaker 1: success that next one or two days after the front
30:05
Speaker 1: blows through. So really kind of focusing on those cold
30:07
Speaker 1: front in the day or two after that following gun
30:10
Speaker 1: season in December, do you notice any kind of shift
30:12
Speaker 1: in bedding in Oklahoma? Not really, not on our place,
30:17
Speaker 1: um and not like I'm just speaking for ourselves right now,
30:20
Speaker 1: but our gear for the most parts stick to big,
30:23
Speaker 1: tall native grass pastures for betting. U mean, you'll find
30:27
Speaker 1: him with some of these siski flats in some little
30:29
Speaker 1: thicker areas. But for the most part, betting doesn't really change,
30:32
Speaker 1: uh for us as far as what mature dear does.
30:35
Speaker 1: For that for that fact, where they bed um normally
30:39
Speaker 1: from December all the way you know, back into the summertime.
30:42
Speaker 1: So they're they're betting patterns typically don't change a whole lot.
30:46
Speaker 1: Where are you running a lot of your trail cameras
30:48
Speaker 1: right now? Foods horses, they're they're all back on food
30:51
Speaker 1: right now, whether that be a feeder or just right
30:54
Speaker 1: in the middle of the big food plot or or
30:56
Speaker 1: wheat field. So I would have all of your on
31:00
Speaker 1: all your cameras for information on on food sources. Has
31:03
Speaker 1: signmaking pretty much gone cold for you? For the most part,
31:07
Speaker 1: He's still seeing a little bit of uh, some some
31:10
Speaker 1: fresh rubs, you know, maybe some fresh grapes that sort
31:12
Speaker 1: of thing, with some little bit of post rud activity.
31:15
Speaker 1: But again, it's not really anything that I would count
31:18
Speaker 1: on as far as trying to get a mature to
31:20
Speaker 1: year down. Um, it's just kind of that that post
31:22
Speaker 1: secondary run, just those few deer that hadn't got a
31:25
Speaker 1: dough bread or anything down. Is that sign making is
31:29
Speaker 1: happening going forward? Then in this next week or so,
31:33
Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to
31:34
Speaker 1: be On a scale of one to ten in Oklahoma?
31:37
Speaker 1: I'd be a little more optimistic. I probably push it
31:39
Speaker 1: to around a seven. We've got a front coming in
31:42
Speaker 1: and on Friday, and we're supposed to have a little
31:44
Speaker 1: bit of weather on Friday and the Saturday, and then
31:46
Speaker 1: some some nicer, more December like weather for Oklahoma in
31:49
Speaker 1: the next week. So I think that's really gonna help.
31:52
Speaker 1: I think they're really going to be focusing on food
31:54
Speaker 1: and with that little pressure change, I think we we
31:56
Speaker 1: should have some good activity in this next week or
31:59
Speaker 1: ten days in this part of the state. Right Clay,
32:01
Speaker 1: congrats to all the success your clients have had this year.
32:03
Speaker 1: You guys have done an awesome job based on Instagram.
32:06
Speaker 1: Good luck with lot's left of your season. Thanks for
32:08
Speaker 1: joining me all right. Thanks been to appreciate it alright
32:11
Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Bomartinic from
32:13
Speaker 1: East meets West hunt in Pennsylvania, now bowin Pennsylvania. What
32:17
Speaker 1: would you say the buck activity has been lately on
32:19
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Well, it depends on
32:22
Speaker 1: where you're at, but I would say that the buck
32:24
Speaker 1: activity and my area in northern Pennsylvania has been about
32:28
Speaker 1: a seven. And I'll say that because I don't think
32:31
Speaker 1: that normally they'd be moving on a seven. But with
32:34
Speaker 1: the amount of hunters, with deer season coming in last
32:38
Speaker 1: week so the rightful season, most hunters per square mile
32:42
Speaker 1: anywhere at that time of year in the United States
32:45
Speaker 1: here in Pennsylvania, and the deer moving because people are
32:48
Speaker 1: moving them. So that's a little bit different than your
32:52
Speaker 1: typical reasons for movement, but I think that made it
32:55
Speaker 1: a little bit higher. Now, you just killed a mega
32:58
Speaker 1: mountain white tail out there this last weekend during rifle season.
33:02
Speaker 1: Tell us about that haunt, why you were there, and
33:04
Speaker 1: why that buck was there. So it seems like with
33:07
Speaker 1: hunting pressure in Pennsylvania and they in the mountains here
33:12
Speaker 1: that they're either on the tops or in the bottom,
33:14
Speaker 1: so that people don't like walking those steep side hills.
33:17
Speaker 1: And from my my trail cameras and then just past knowledge,
33:22
Speaker 1: they seemed to like to stick to those side hills,
33:24
Speaker 1: especially with the pressure. So what we did was me
33:28
Speaker 1: and my buddy Johnny went off on the point of
33:30
Speaker 1: this hill on the edge of some thick hemlock cover.
33:33
Speaker 1: The prevailing wind was coming across the top of the hill,
33:36
Speaker 1: had some rising thirdwals. Everything was a perfect picture perfect
33:41
Speaker 1: uh hunt as far as where that buck would be betted.
33:44
Speaker 1: And we didn't know that specific deer was going to
33:46
Speaker 1: be in there, but was hoping so. And just on
33:49
Speaker 1: the edge of of that thick cover. Um My dad
33:52
Speaker 1: came around the side of the hill and did a
33:54
Speaker 1: little bit of a wind bump to him and a
33:56
Speaker 1: deer stepped out at twenty yards from me, and I
33:59
Speaker 1: was able to fo them right on the edge of
34:00
Speaker 1: the open oak folks, and the thick came walked over.
34:04
Speaker 1: Now I know in the past Bout we've interviewed you
34:06
Speaker 1: for some articles on the meat eator dot com where
34:08
Speaker 1: you've talked about how these bucks like to bed I
34:11
Speaker 1: think on the upper third of hills in big woods.
34:14
Speaker 1: Do you notice that same thing in late season? And
34:16
Speaker 1: why do they want to be on that upper third? So, yeah,
34:20
Speaker 1: it does depend So most of the time they like
34:23
Speaker 1: to be in that upper third because they can have
34:25
Speaker 1: that prevailing wind come across the top and they can
34:29
Speaker 1: so they're covered from the back and they can see
34:31
Speaker 1: down over the hill, but also get those gay time
34:34
Speaker 1: thermals coming up and hitting them in the front, so
34:37
Speaker 1: they're basically covered from all angles. And and also if
34:41
Speaker 1: if something did come from behind them, they can just
34:43
Speaker 1: bomb off the edge of the hill and get away
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty easily. As it gets in the late season,
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Speaker 1: I have noticed they kind of, um, they kind of
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Speaker 1: drop a little bit lower. Um it all spit all
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Speaker 1: depends on the food. But in the specific area. And
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Speaker 1: he was actually bedded more towards the in the middle ground,
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Speaker 1: so the probably towards the bottom of that upper one third,
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Speaker 1: and because that's where the acorns seemed to be lower.
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Speaker 1: So he could leave his the thick hemlock thermal cover
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Speaker 1: to protect him, you know, from the cold winds and
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Speaker 1: and everything else, and also just keeping out a sight
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Speaker 1: of people would also be able to take a few
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Speaker 1: steps and and be in the acorns within eight yards,
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Speaker 1: so you know, close proximity to food, and it seems
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Speaker 1: like they moved a little bit closer to the food
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Speaker 1: in the late season. What are the different types of
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Speaker 1: food sources that you're looking for this time of year
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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. The two main ones are if you can
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Speaker 1: find any red oaks that still have the acorns um
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Speaker 1: on the ground, that's it seems to be a hot
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Speaker 1: ticket item right now. And also fresh logging cuts, so
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Speaker 1: where they're just the fresh timber cuts um isn't even
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Speaker 1: if the loggers are in there during the week the weekend,
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Speaker 1: it can be great because they cut down the tops
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Speaker 1: and creates a ton of brows and seems the filter
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Speaker 1: the deer in with the hunting pressure. Right now, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna it's mostly first and last light in those logging cuts.
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Speaker 1: If you're doing some in season scouting late season, what
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Speaker 1: sorts of things are you looking for food? Trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out where they're feeding in relation to that thermal cover,
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Speaker 1: and typically on on those side hills those points, UM,
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking for hemlock trees, pine trees, anything like
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Speaker 1: that in relation to either the oak trees or or
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Speaker 1: logging cuts. What is your trail came replacement look like
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Speaker 1: in December in the big Woods, I'm still keeping them
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Speaker 1: on scrapes and travel routes that seemed to be but
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Speaker 1: but close to that that cover. If I have a
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Speaker 1: with my cell cameras, I typically run those almost in
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Speaker 1: the bedding areas pretty close because I don't need to
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Speaker 1: go in there and check them. UM. But otherwise, as
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Speaker 1: I'm still running them on scrapes, they still seem to
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Speaker 1: be checking those licking branches as they're heading now towards
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Speaker 1: those food sources. So for how long do you think
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Speaker 1: that scrapes and rubs are going to be relevant there? UM?
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Speaker 1: I will typically run that through even in the January. UM,
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Speaker 1: they'll they seem that found frushtrates this past weekend m
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Speaker 1: being worked and but it's not the same as your
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Speaker 1: rout scrapes. I'm talking about the ones that are super
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Speaker 1: close to the bedding or the food sources. The ones
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Speaker 1: that are more relevant for hunting seemed to be closer
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Speaker 1: to the to the bedding cover UM for for this
37:30
Speaker 1: time and year, mostly because of pressure and UM, and
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Speaker 1: they're not going as far for the for the food
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Speaker 1: there going forward. Then in the sixt week or so,
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Speaker 1: what do you think that bucket TV is going to
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Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna drop down to about a four
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Speaker 1: or five. So one they are hiding um that they're
37:51
Speaker 1: hiding out. They've been having a week and a half
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Speaker 1: of gun season pressure as well as we have some
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Speaker 1: warm temperatures coming in, so I think the daily movement
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Speaker 1: is going to be definitely significantly lower than it was
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Speaker 1: even the past week. R Bow, congrats again on that
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Speaker 1: awesome buck uh. Good luck with the rest of your season,
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Speaker 1: and tell people where they can go on Instagram to
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Speaker 1: see that white tail you just killed. Yeah, so they
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Speaker 1: can head over either my personal page which is at
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Speaker 1: Bow dot mar Tonic it's apellt the e au dot
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Speaker 1: m A R T O n I K or at
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Speaker 1: East meets West hunt A right, Bow congrats again, thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining me, Thanks Spencer, and that concludes this week's
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Speaker 1: episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Alex Hunter, Clay
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Speaker 1: and Bow for joining me, and thank you guys for listening.
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Speaker 1: My season is officially over, but we're going to keep
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Speaker 1: making rout Fresh episodes for a few more weeks, so
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Speaker 1: I hope you're still listening. I hope you're still in
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Speaker 1: the woods. And until I talk to you, guys next Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: stay wired to Hunt.