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Fair Territory: Orioles trade Baker to Rays, DJ LeMahieu released, Royals run, Future superstar Cam Smith? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: If you notice every team that gets hot in Major
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  Speaker 1: League Baseball, you just mentioned the Red Sox in part.
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  Speaker 1: They're getting hot it seems because they're playing the Rockets.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Olana Rizzo and Alana. It's not
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  Speaker 1: even July thirty first, and we've got some action to
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  Speaker 1: talk about today.
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  Speaker 2: We do, Ken, always agree to be with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it's July tenth, and there has already been a
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  Speaker 3: trade in addition to much more to happen the next
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  Speaker 3: couple of weeks. But it's the Baltimore Orioles. The Rays
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  Speaker 3: actually acquire a reliever, Brian Baker from the O's for
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  Speaker 3: competitive balance pick in Sunday's draft, and Ken, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that Baker was kind of on your board to
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  Speaker 3: be moved.
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  Speaker 2: What more can you tell us?
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  Speaker 1: He was not on my board to be moved. And
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  Speaker 1: actually Tampa Bay is the team that parted with the
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  Speaker 1: number thirty seven pick. I updated that tweet. It was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit mistaken, had the wrong team. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to happen, by the way, probably again before the deadline.
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  Speaker 1: But this trade is actually rather interesting, even though on
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  Speaker 1: the surface, most fans, as casual fans, probably have not
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  Speaker 1: even heard of Brian Baker, but he's a decent reliever
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  Speaker 1: who can help the Raise stabilize a bullpen that in
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  Speaker 1: the last two weeks or so has kind of collapsed
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. So they need some help there. But
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  Speaker 1: the more interesting angle is from the Orioles perspective, as
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  Speaker 1: you saw it, they acquire the number thirty seven pick
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  Speaker 1: in the draft that starts on Sunday. They now have
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  Speaker 1: four picks in the first thirty seven nineteen. That's their
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  Speaker 1: first rounder, thirty and thirty one. Those are the compicks
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  Speaker 1: for Corbyn Burns and Anthony Santander and now thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: coming from the Rays, that's a competitive balance pick. Those
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  Speaker 1: are the only kinds of picks that can be traded now.
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  Speaker 1: The Orioles they need, as we all know, controllable starting pitching.
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  Speaker 1: They've got some free agent starters in their mix right
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  Speaker 1: now that they probably will end up trading Charlie Morton,
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  Speaker 1: Tomoyuki Sagano and ultimately going forward, they need help there.
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  Speaker 1: They've needed help there since the offseason. We know that
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  Speaker 1: can they get that help with the players that they
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  Speaker 1: have of going forward here I'm not sure it can
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  Speaker 1: happen at the deadline. Let's take a look at the
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  Speaker 1: players who are available, and we'll get into this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit and just explain how the Orioles might make
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  Speaker 1: this work, because it's kind of similar to what the
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays did last year at the deadline. If
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  Speaker 1: you remember Alana, they traded nine players. They got sixteen
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  Speaker 1: players back, only two of them were in the major leagues,
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Morrell and Dylan Carlson. So here's the Orioles list
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  Speaker 1: of trade candidates, Ryan O'Hearn, Romo Loreano, Cedric Mollens, Charlie Morton,
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Kittridge, tomy I Fustugano, and Sir Anthony Domingez. And
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  Speaker 1: then on the injured list Zach Eflin, who maybe coming
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  Speaker 1: off the injured list by the time the deadline happens.
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  Speaker 1: And then Brian Baker, who has three years of control,
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  Speaker 1: but the Orioles traded him anyway to get that number
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven pick. Now, why are the picks so valuable? One,
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  Speaker 1: they're valuable in themselves. And Michael Elias, the one great
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  Speaker 1: thing he has done as Oriols general manager is draft.
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  Speaker 1: He also did it in Houston, the guy who drafted
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  Speaker 1: Correa mccullors are a number of others for the Astros when
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  Speaker 1: he was there. And bonus pool is something else that
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  Speaker 1: is meaningful here. Each pick, as you guys know, has
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  Speaker 1: a bonus slot attached to him, or the slot does.
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  Speaker 1: And when the Oriols traded for the number thirty seven pick,
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  Speaker 1: they acquired more money. And when you have all this
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  Speaker 1: money in the bonus pool, and we'll take a look
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  Speaker 1: right now at just how that sums up. When you
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  Speaker 1: have all that money, you can do different things. It
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  Speaker 1: gives you flexibility in the draft. The Oriols now the
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  Speaker 1: top team according to MLB dot com more than nineteen
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  Speaker 1: million in their bonus pool. That will give them the
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  Speaker 1: ability to manipulate the draft a little bit, do some
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  Speaker 1: creative things. So for the Oriols, an interesting trade and
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  Speaker 1: probably a lot of the first of many.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say it almost seems like it's
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  Speaker 3: just a signaling of cell sell sell Ken. How disappointing
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  Speaker 3: is this though, when you think about the Orioles coming
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  Speaker 3: into the season, much higher hopes for this club going
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  Speaker 3: into twenty twenty five, and now it seems like they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna have an absolute yard sale.
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  Speaker 1: Extremely disappointing Alana, And if you read Jason Stark last week,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was what we learned in the first half.
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  Speaker 1: He had a mention of the Orioles as the most
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  Speaker 1: disappointing team in recent memory because of that young core
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  Speaker 1: of position players that is so promising and remains so promising.
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  Speaker 1: So one thing I didn't mention just earlier was they
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  Speaker 1: plan to compete in twenty twenty six. So while they
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  Speaker 1: might not be able to address their needs at the deadline,
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  Speaker 1: because generally prospect made trades are made at the deadline,
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  Speaker 1: they can amass more talent, do some more things in
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  Speaker 1: the offseason, perhaps, and then build on what they have
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  Speaker 1: with that young core. They've also got Felix Bautista closer
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  Speaker 1: available for two more years under club control. I don't
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  Speaker 1: expect that they're going to trade him simply because they
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  Speaker 1: want to compete going forward.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, So the Baltimore Oriols making a move two
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  Speaker 3: weeks before the trade deadline, staying in the Al East.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees also make a move, but it's not via
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  Speaker 3: the trade kind of sup rito some I guess. DJ
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  Speaker 3: Lemayhew infielder was designated for assignment. He's now been released
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  Speaker 3: by the Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: What does this mean.
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  Speaker 1: It means the Yankees need a third baseman and that
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  Speaker 1: they've moved Jazz Chisholm Junior to second base, which is
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  Speaker 1: where he belongs, and they can finally maybe start to
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  Speaker 1: get their infield in order. Oswald Parrazza probably will take
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  Speaker 1: the majority of the reps at third until the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: can do something else at the position. Aohano Suarez is
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  Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people have linked to them.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan McMahon is another one who could be available. Is available,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll see just how the Yankees address this. They
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  Speaker 1: have other needs as well. Their general manager Brian Cashman
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that yesterday that they're gonna go and try to
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  Speaker 1: address as many things as possible. They need another starter,
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  Speaker 1: they need perhaps two more relievers. They are a team
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  Speaker 1: that is built to win, wants to win, and I
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  Speaker 1: am sure will be aggressive now. DJ lem Mayhew. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: it didn't work for him this season, and the Yankees
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  Speaker 1: gave him forty five games, probably more than they should
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  Speaker 1: have given him in retrospect coming off the injuries that
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  Speaker 1: he's had. Just wanted to see whether DJ could recapture
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  Speaker 1: some of what he did in twenty nineteen and twenty
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  Speaker 1: when he was such a valuable Yankee didn't happen. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: he was not good defensively, not showing much impact offensively.
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  Speaker 1: Jazz good at third, okay at third, but better at second.
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  Speaker 1: So this will help them and we will see just
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  Speaker 1: where they go with this going forward, because they've got
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  Speaker 1: some things that they're going to need to do. We
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  Speaker 1: know that I just mentioned them, and I expect Cashman
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  Speaker 1: to be very aggressive.
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  Speaker 3: And you also expect Anthony Volpi to be a big
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  Speaker 3: piece of that puzzle. Right They're big on what Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Volpe can do. Part of the solution, Ken, Well.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Brian Cashman said yesterday. Not part of the problem,
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  Speaker 1: part of the solution. Now, a lot of fans might disagree,
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  Speaker 1: and I Folpi's a guy with about almost seventeen hundred
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  Speaker 1: played appearances in the big leagues, not a small sample
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  Speaker 1: at this point. And yet the way the Yankees see him,
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  Speaker 1: even though he has been so streaky offensively, is as
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  Speaker 1: a player who is around the seven hundred ops and
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  Speaker 1: an excellent defender. He's had some missteps in the field
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, but They see him largely
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  Speaker 1: as a really good defender that, as Aaron Boone says,
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  Speaker 1: is a decent player. Can Anthony Volpi be better? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he can be better, and the Yankees expect he will
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  Speaker 1: be better. The question that a lot of us have
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  Speaker 1: is is what we've seen what it's going to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure we can pass judgment on that
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  Speaker 1: just yet, not when he's still just twenty four years old.
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  Speaker 1: But Volpi has been kind of a lightning rod for
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  Speaker 1: Yankee fans of late, and his performance the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the season is going to go a long way toward
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  Speaker 1: determining what kind of team they're going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't en to be anybody taking a shortstop
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  Speaker 3: position with the Yankees after Derek Jeter. That is a
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  Speaker 3: tall hill to climb. Let's go to the al Central
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  Speaker 3: and the Kansas City Royals. We talked about the orioles
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  Speaker 3: Ken being a disappointment. I think you can put the
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  Speaker 3: Royals in that category. Two, what are they doing? Are
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  Speaker 3: they buying or they selling?
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  Speaker 1: We don't know yet, Alana, and we don't know yet
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  Speaker 1: because they recently went through a stretch where they were
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, fourteen and twenty eight, but they have
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  Speaker 1: won eight of their last twelve. Their offense is finally
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  Speaker 1: starting to look like it's waking up. Callian Owen's doing
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  Speaker 1: some things. Perez two home runs last night. They are
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  Speaker 1: finally looking like the team that they want to be,
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  Speaker 1: and they want to be in contention. It's a team
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  Speaker 1: that has about one hundred and twenty seven million dollar
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  Speaker 1: pay roll. It's their highest since twenty seventeen. They did
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  Speaker 1: not build this team to break it up to trade
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  Speaker 1: Seth Lugo and others at the deadline. What they want
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  Speaker 1: to do is compete. Now, what we have in both
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  Speaker 1: wildcard races and I want to show you the standings
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  Speaker 1: as we go along here are kind of a muddled picture,
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  Speaker 1: and both races have teams that are on the bubble.
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  Speaker 1: This is common for this time of year, especially with
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  Speaker 1: the expanded playoffs. But certain teams like the Royals are
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  Speaker 1: going to need to decide over the next fifteen game
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  Speaker 1: and that's what is left before the deadline. Just where
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  Speaker 1: they're going with this, all right? Look at the Ale
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  Speaker 1: Wildcard Yankees, Tampa Bay, and Seattle are the leaders right now.
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  Speaker 1: The Red Sox, in my view, are a playoff team
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  Speaker 1: and they have every capability of being that. They are
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  Speaker 1: tied with Seattle for this last spot. Kansas City, Los Angeles,
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  Speaker 1: and Minnesota three teams all tied behind the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: three games back. The Rangers, a team that has been
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  Speaker 1: immensely disappointing, only three and a half games back. They're Guardians,
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  Speaker 1: another team hugely disappointing, awful June four and a half back.
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  Speaker 1: Two good weeks here. Two good weeks by any of
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  Speaker 1: these clubs will influence where they go, as with two
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  Speaker 1: bad weeks. So those are the kinds of things that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to be looking at going forward. And I
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  Speaker 1: want to show you the National League. It's sort of
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  Speaker 1: similar in the wildcard races. They have teams in the
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  Speaker 1: National League. There are teams in the National League that
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  Speaker 1: are really close. San Diego and Saint Louis obviously right there.
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis is teetering, and I don't know that they
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  Speaker 1: see them necessarily as a playoff team. We're gonna find
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  Speaker 1: out the Reds and the Diamondbacks, and the Diamondbacks have
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  Speaker 1: been crushed by injuries, crushed. I don't see a path
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  Speaker 1: forward for them that leads to a playoff Berth, but
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  Speaker 1: they're only four and a half back. The Reds invested
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  Speaker 1: a lot in this season, they're three and a half back.
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  Speaker 1: So again, with about fourteen to fifteen games remaining before
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  Speaker 1: the deadline, some of this will sort itself out and
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  Speaker 1: some of it won't, and some teams will just need
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  Speaker 1: to decide, Okay, do we want to really try to upgrade?
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  Speaker 1: Are our chances worth upgrading for.
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  Speaker 2: Or not ken really quickly? Do you think that?
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  Speaker 3: It's also a case of where the Royals, because it's
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  Speaker 3: the highest payroll into this season since seventeen, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't really want to concede just yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's exactly it. Alana and their front office,
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  Speaker 1: their ownership, they've invested a lot in this season. They
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  Speaker 1: believe in their team, and remember they were a playoff
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  Speaker 1: team last year, so it's not as if they look
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  Speaker 1: at this and say, well, let's just live for another day.
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  Speaker 1: Teams like the Royals are tired of living for another day,
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  Speaker 1: or should be anyway, And that's why the stress of
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  Speaker 1: competition is so important, or the importance of competition is
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  Speaker 1: so significant. Teams need to compete, they need to stop
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  Speaker 1: selling off and playing for tomorrow and the Royals do
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  Speaker 1: not want to play for tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, fans deserve that, a team that's willing to compete,
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  Speaker 3: an ownership group that's willing to put competitive players on
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  Speaker 3: the field and go for it. At least much more
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  Speaker 3: to come here on fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal.
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  Speaker 2: First, a quick word from our friends at foul Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Then move to you.
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  Speaker 3: is time now for my favorite segment, Grill and Ken.
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  Speaker 3: When else can we ask Ken Rosenthal? Of course, future
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  Speaker 3: Hall of Famer, my friend a question and it's always
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  Speaker 3: fun too around the deadline?
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  Speaker 2: Ken?
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  Speaker 3: All right, this is from Richard Proctor. This is coming
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  Speaker 3: from our CHATBCC group. We appreciate you guys. Is there
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  Speaker 3: any other type of skill competition that you would like
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  Speaker 3: to see implemented during the All Star festivities? What about
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  Speaker 3: like a reporter competition?
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  Speaker 1: I'm kidding, let's not have that ye have every day. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see some things, but there's no
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  Speaker 1: way the players and the teams would ever agree to them.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to see fastest throw from an outfielder, that
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  Speaker 1: would be cool. I'd like to see a race between
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  Speaker 1: the fastest players. That would be cool too. Is it
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  Speaker 1: going to happen? Note because the risk of injury is
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  Speaker 1: too great, So we're good with home run derby. Even
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  Speaker 1: that it's somewhat controversial and that teams kind of say
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  Speaker 1: we don't really want our guys swinging that much. But
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  Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun over the years, so
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  Speaker 1: it's going to continue. But I don't expect we'll see
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  Speaker 1: any other skills competition though. Sure I'd like to see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of guys that were just in the
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  Speaker 3: home run derby not participating. Taoscar Hernandez pi Alonzo says
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  Speaker 3: that he's going to pass this year. I want to
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  Speaker 3: see the slowest race. I want a bunch of catchers
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  Speaker 3: to line up and see who can who can run
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  Speaker 3: the slowest? All right, Elvis Santoyo, do you think relief
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  Speaker 3: pitchers get overlooked during All Star selections? This is a
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  Speaker 3: good question. The focus tends to be on starting pitchers.
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  Speaker 3: I can think of quite a few relief pitchers that
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  Speaker 3: are not in the start in the All Star Game
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  Speaker 3: and should be ken This is basically a T shirt
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  Speaker 3: that says relievers need love to.
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  Speaker 1: He's right, and Elvis, that's a good point. Relievers generally
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  Speaker 1: are picked in the All Star Game. Of course, there's
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  Speaker 1: a minimum that has to be chosen for the team.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, it seems often not this
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  Speaker 1: year so much, but often the focus is on closers
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  Speaker 1: and not some of the great setup guys who are
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  Speaker 1: doing some amazing things. Now this year, the National League
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  Speaker 1: team includes Jason Adam and Randy Rodriguez. Those are guys
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  Speaker 1: who I don't know five years ago, ten years ago,
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  Speaker 1: for sure would not have been picked because setup guys
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  Speaker 1: were not generally included. But it's good to see them
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  Speaker 1: get acknowledged. The problem with pitching, Elvis is that there
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  Speaker 1: are so many good pitchers. There are so many guys
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  Speaker 1: doing wonderful things that you just can't get them all
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  Speaker 1: on the team. And that's the issue with the All
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  Speaker 1: Star team. But as I always say, just wait, spots
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  Speaker 1: are going to open up. We've already seen a number
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  Speaker 1: of players added. There will be a number of additional
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  Speaker 1: players added before Sunday and the game on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Row Star is continually changing because of injuries,
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  Speaker 3: or schedule or the way that things play out. I
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  Speaker 3: do love the fact, though, that everybody is wearing their
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  Speaker 3: own respective team dreams and we're not doing All Star
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  Speaker 3: jerseys anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for that.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Another question here from chat BCC, John Dicey
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  Speaker 3: wants to know do you think the Dodgers would have
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  Speaker 3: more rings if they had someone other than Dave Roberts.
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  Speaker 3: As there what seems like he gets in his own way.
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you take that one, John, They've got two
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  Speaker 1: rings twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. I know fans
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  Speaker 1: sometimes think otherwise, but your favorite team can't win every year.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Roberts scenario. Yes, it was a big question mark
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  Speaker 1: about him, even as recently as last postseason. And if
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  Speaker 1: they had lost that San Diego series. In the series
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  Speaker 1: I wrote this, and I believe this, he might have
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  Speaker 1: been fired, But he wasn't fired. They won that series,
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  Speaker 1: and they went on to win the World Series, and
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  Speaker 1: now he's likely going to the Hall of Fame. That
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  Speaker 1: is the thin line that managers sometimes walk. But you
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  Speaker 1: can't say Dave Roberts has not been a good manager
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  Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Dodgers. He's been a very good manager.
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  Speaker 2: He's been an incredible manager.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Highest winning percentage among active managers, at least, he's up
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: there in that list. He should have had a ring
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: for twenty seventeen. That's another conversation that we've had a
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: thousand times. And to your point, Ken, he even said
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: himself that he worried about his career or his job
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: during that DS against the San Diego Padres. So he
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: got over that hump and he now has two rings
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: as a manager and is a postseason contender. All right,
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: coming up on foul Territory with Ken Rosenthal, it is
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Dude and Dork of the Week. One more question here,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I guess video game Nation Grill and Ken Ken, do
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: you think the Red Sox trade Jared Durant even though
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: they are competing. I wonder about this too. This is
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: a good question.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's possible, but I would say unlikely. And Alex Corn
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: recent days and maybe it's posturing because that's the time
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of year we're in right now, where teams say things
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that don't necessarily have great meaning. But he has basically said,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: we can make this work. Even with Yoshida being back,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: we can work this rotation. Anthony. It scenes is going
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to play every day or close to it. But with
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Duran and Nebrau and Yoshida and Rafaela, they'll figure it out.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: They'll just mix them in and out. So the Red Sox,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: if they could get a number two starter for Duran
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and one with comparable control because Duran does have control
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: beyond this season. I think they would do it, but
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I don't see that deal being out there for them.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: What team wants to trade that kind of arm. Maybe
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: for Duran A team would, But while it would make
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: some sense for the Red Sox to do this, I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: would bet against it rather than on it. I don't
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: think it's a one hundred that's not going to happen.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: There's a chance there's a world out there where they
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: do trade Duran for pitching, but it's just a difficult
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: thing to pull off.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of things going on with the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Red Sox right now. I musta talk to Yoshea returned yesterday.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Alex Bragman's probably coming back on Friday. They have a
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: lot of young talent, could be some definite question marks
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: in terms of who goes where and where do they
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: get that playing time. Another question here on Grill and Ken.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: This one comes from Mike Jids in regards to PCA. Who,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I tell you, what has been like a topic of
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: conversation every single day. Will PCA be your surefire mL
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: MVP if he puts up the first ever MLB forty
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: forty and Platinum Glove season that he's still on pace
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: four and a higher war than a man by the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: name of sho Hey Otani.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Mike gets a fair question. And if he puts up
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: that kind of season PCA, he might not finish first,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: but he's going to finish in the top three. Now,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the question is what is Otani going to do as
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a pitcher? How valuable will he be as a pitcher?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: And with and War, I don't necessarily assign incredible value
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: to that because he is such an unusual player. I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: don't know that his contributions are fully captured by War.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to anger any statistical analysts out there,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: but this guy's a different cat. Now. He's not going
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to get built up, most likely in the regular season
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to be a seven inning starter, but Dave Roberts has
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned he could go five innings. And if he does
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that and he helps the Dodgers get where they want
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to be best record in the National League going into
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, he's still going to be a really strong
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: MVP candidate. That's it. Forty forty Platinum Glove. Yeah, that's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: a pretty darn good player. It's going to be really
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: interesting too. Though Kyle Tucker might be their most valuable
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Player in certain other respects. I don't know the PCA
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is having this season without Kyle Tucker doing what he's doing.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Ken, is there any part of voting fatigue for the
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: same guy over and over again?
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think there's any part of PCA.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Getting it just because it almost seems un fair, maybe warranted,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: but almost unfair that shohe is just kind of a
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: shoe in every season.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I do think that comes into play for certain voters.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Now we haven't seen it yet, show he keeps winning.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But there might be a desire among some voters for
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a new flavor of the month, but that Setlana. Most
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: voters kind of look at it year by year, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: one year has nothing to do with the next. And yes,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: PCA would be the ideal new flavor of the month
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: or year, but I don't know that it's going to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: go down that way. The way voters break it down
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: so statistically oriented as they should, it seems to me
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that each year is separate from the other, and that
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know that Shohotani, because he's won it before unanimously,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: is going to win it or won't win it again
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: for that reason.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: All right, Well, thank you everybody for your chat BCC
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: and YouTube questions will appreciate it. We're going to take
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: a quick break and then we are back with Dude
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: and Dork.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Of the Week.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Hey, let's do a little player spotlight thanks to Arena
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• 21:06
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• 21:09
  Speaker 6: James would. I don't know that he's underrated, but Washington
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: National's superstar in the making, and the first slab pack
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: I ever opened had him in his rookie card and
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: the value is only going to go up and up
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: and up. And I'm not going to sell it KWI yet.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Scott.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: I'm going to hold on to because after he continues
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: to hit big homers and put up the stats make
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: All Star teams, it's going to get more expensive for
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: someone to buy.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: For me.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: This is his first full season in the majors. Keep
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: that in mind. I think he's underrated. He's on a
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: Nationals team that's man adding enough attention.
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: He might underrated. When he makes the All Star team
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: this year, They're not going to be underrated.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: That helps.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: He's been intentionally walked four times in a game. Anyway,
• 21:45
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• 21:47
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• 22:01
  Speaker 7: Dude, dude, dude, all right, ken, let's give somebody some flowers.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Who is your due to the week?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: The mizz Jacob MISSOWSKIOK pitcher for the Milwaukee Brewers. Five
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: starts is not enough to put him on the All
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Star team, I think, even though I'd love to see
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: him in the game. But my goodness, the duel with Kershaw,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: which he won, that was something else this week. And
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not only that, he showed the proper respect for Kershaw,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: even though Kershaw did not necessarily show him much respect.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Before the game, he was kind of dismissive of Misrowski.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: He said, hey, it's just the guy with the ankle.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I felt almost fell down. So Miserowski after the game said,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you know what, Clayton Kershaw was an honor to pitch
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: against him, and I think maybe he hopefully knows who
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I am now. It was respectfully done. It was cool
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and watching this kids pitch is absolutely electric.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know who he was coming into the season.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: You certainly know who the heck he is now.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: All Right.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: My dude of the week is a dudes of the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: week the Boston Red Sox. This was a team three
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: weeks ago we were wondering if they were even gonna
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: make the postseason. Now they have rattled off a lot
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: of runs. It is a much more complete team up
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and down the lineup. They're lengthening the lineup. They've played
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: really well on both sides of the ball. The pitching
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: is getting better. You had Fits going really well. Crochet's
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: done really well. Brian Bao was fantastic. Lucas Giolito last
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: night was really good. Albeit I understand it's against the Nationals,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: it's against the Rockies, but those are two teams that
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you absolutely have to beat. They're very much in the
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: wildcard picture in the American League, and obviously Breslo and
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: that team will be buyers in the American League.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: All right. Time now for the John Fisher dork of
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the week.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, Ken, who do you have as somebody that just
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: continues to make you shake your head Alta.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: After the Nationals fired Mike Rizzo and David Martinez, I
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: wrote a column saying, at two Rockies and you Rockies,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: because ultimately they're going to need to make a change too,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and they've kind of signaled that already. The general manager,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Bill Schmidt's been there. Why he's been a great organizational soldier.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But they need to go forward. They are on pace
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: to lose one hundred and twenty five games, a record
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and sixty two game season, and they
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: need someone from the outside. They need to stop being
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: so insular and yet someone ideally who has a feel
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: for Coors Field and what it would take to win
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a corps Field. So Rockies or Dorks of the week
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: until further notice. If you notice every team that gets
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: hot in Major League Baseball, you just mentioned the Red
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Sox in part. They're getting hot, it seems because they're
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: playing the Rockies, so they are the Dorks of the week.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Walker Bueler toes the rubber tonight for the Boston Red Sox.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: The Tampa Bayres come in for four games, and I'm
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: sure he would have loved to have faced the Rockies instead,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: to try to get that era. A little bit lower
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: of the week is Juan Sodo one Sodo obviously signing
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: a massive seven hundred and sixty five million dollar contract
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I believe coming into the season. A lot of people
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: say he was snubbed on not making the All Star team,
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: but he basically said that he's bummed because every single
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: All Star appearance he makes one hundred thousand dollars, and
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, I would have loved to have made
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: it that have made it. Rather, that's a lot of
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: money left on the table. I mean, I get it,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: like I get it. One hundred thousand dollars is a
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: lot of money, But you're also a seven hundred and
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: sixty five million dollar man one Sodo Optics, man Optics.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: All right, much more.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: To come here on fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal, But
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: for now, for our friends over watching on nesson Sports
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: at Pittsburgh and nessa Nation, we say goodbye until next time.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: All right, Ken, great to have this article that you
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: had written in The Athletic, how rookie cam Smith made
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: the Astros believe he's got something special.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Tell us more about this, well, one.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Of the great trades of the offseason, and really in
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: recent seasons for both teams. Was the Kyle Tucker trade
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: and who went to Houston for Kyle Tucker ezac Parades
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: who is an All Star, Cam Smith who is a
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: future superstar in the estimation of his teammate Jose Altuve
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and Hayden was Nesky, a pitcher who has undergone Tommy
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: John surgery but is promising for the future once he returns.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: But the story was about Cam Smith and how special
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: he is and what's amazing to me about him along
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it is the degree of difficulty he has faced in
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: becoming the astros starting right fielder. This kid was not
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: even drafted a year ago. At this time, the Cubs
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: took him number fourteen in the draft, then they traded
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: him to the Astros. The initial plan was play Smith
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: at third base in the minor leagues, get him settled,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and we'll see where his position would be in the future.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: What happened was Cam Smith tore it up in spring
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: training and impressed the Astros as well with his maturity,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: as poise, everything about his makeup was really off the charts.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So once he tore it up in spring training offensively,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: they said, you know what, We've got a spot open
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and right field. Let's put him there. They put him there.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He'd never played that position never, He'd only played the
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: outfield a little bit in summer league in when he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was in college of Florida State. So for him to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: accomplish what he has, he's about an eight hundred ops
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: now playing a new position, being only a year out
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: of school. I know Jacob Wilson is the front runner
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: for Ale Rookie of the Year. Nick Kurtz might not
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: be far behind, but Cam Smith belongs in that conversation.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Ken, So much of a trade is who it benefits,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and oftentimes the best trades are the ones that are
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: winners on both sides of those Typically, how long do
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: you think it takes to determine who the real winners
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: are in a trade?
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Ideally, Alani, you don't judge it until their careers are
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: over right, and then you can add them what they've
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: done and see just how it balances out. But in
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: this particular trade, they've both won short term, the Cubs
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: by getting Tucker, who's been a transformational play for them.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: The Astros by getting Piades and Smith and Wesnsky for
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: the future. Ultimately, if Smith becomes a superstar and he
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: could then, Yes, the Astros had the greater control of
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: him six years versus the one like the Cubs got
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: with Tucker. You would say the Astros won the trade.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: But if the Cubs go on in the postseason to
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the World Series and win the World Series, even if
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: they don't, even if they go into the NLCS and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: sput her out there, it's been a great year. It's
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: been a great trade for Tucker under those circumstances. So
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: winners and losers in this case, I would say they're
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: both gonna end up winners one way or the other.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, It's always great to have a conversation with you
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: here on Fair Territory.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Don't forget.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Ken has a brand new episode of Fair Territory with
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Ken Rosenthal on Monday. Have a great day, everybody, Ken,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: We'll see you on Monday.
• 28:51
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