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FAMILY ASKS WHITE HOUSE: WHY NO ARRESTS AFTER DEADLY GIRLS' TRIP · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Greece. The name Chanquila Robinson is
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Speaker 1: burned into my mind because this beautiful, brilliant young woman
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Speaker 1: death still is unavenged. Why I mean her death, her
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Speaker 1: homicide is caught on video. Why because she went away
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Speaker 1: on a girl's weekend to I think a five star
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Speaker 1: resort not too far from where Jennifer Aniston and other
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Speaker 1: Hollywood celebrities vacation. She was woken up early, She's still naked,
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Speaker 1: she sleeps without any clothes on, yanked out of bed,
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Speaker 1: and then a beating began. Her head essentially was dislodged
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Speaker 1: from her spine in the beating as she died. No,
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Speaker 1: not at the hands of some unknown assailant, not some
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Speaker 1: drug dealer in Mexico that we hear so much about
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Speaker 1: by her own friends. The girl's weekend murder of this
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Speaker 1: beautiful young girl just lying there sleep And what in
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Speaker 1: the world did they think it was a good thing
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Speaker 1: to video? It was that some spectator sport for them.
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Speaker 1: Still no justice with a video Joining me is shankquil
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Speaker 1: as mother and a lawyer that has vow for justice
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Speaker 1: and has gone so far to writing as to writing
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Speaker 1: the White House. I mean, is that what you have
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Speaker 1: to do to get justice. You have to make a
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Speaker 1: special plea to the President for Pete's sake. That's so
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Speaker 1: wrong on so many levels. I mean, and see, Grace,
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Speaker 1: this is Crime Stories, and I want to thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Series
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Speaker 1: XM one eleven. First of all, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at WC and C. The attorneys representing Shanquella
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Speaker 1: Robinson's family. They say they know who Mexican authorities are
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Speaker 1: seeking for Robinson's death. The Charlotte Observer reports those attorneys
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Speaker 1: shared that name in a letter to the White House.
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Speaker 1: She's a twenty six year old. The Observer reports the
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Speaker 1: letter includes findings from a trip a family attorney took
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Speaker 1: to Mexico recently. Robin Signor remember, died while in vacation
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Speaker 1: with six others in Kabba last year, and in January,
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Speaker 1: prosecutors in Baja California sore named that they were seeking
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Speaker 1: a suspect facing femicide charges. Okay, so a letter has
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Speaker 1: been sent to the White House. Is that going to
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Speaker 1: do any good at all? I don't know. Should they
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Speaker 1: have just crumbled it up and thrown it out On
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Speaker 1: Third Avenue in New York. Is it going to fall
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Speaker 1: on deaf ears? The President's not a prosecutor, so what
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Speaker 1: do we do to get justice for Schenquila? I mean,
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Speaker 1: when you feel like you've got to write the president
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Speaker 1: because you're not getting justice. I feel so badly for
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Speaker 1: Chenquila's mother. Salamancha Robinson joining me right now before I
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Speaker 1: go through what happened to Schenquila, I just want to ask,
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Speaker 1: miss Robinson, what led you to want this letter sent
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Speaker 1: to the White House trying to get some justice and
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Speaker 1: hoping that people with more power can step in and
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Speaker 1: do something. I'm just beside myself that this mother listen
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Speaker 1: a lot of you listening and watching right now, your
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Speaker 1: mother's father's when you have your back against the wall
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Speaker 1: and your beloved child, your girl is murdered, and you
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Speaker 1: get sick, literally sick to your stomach when you see
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Speaker 1: that video and you feel like you have to write
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Speaker 1: the president to get justice. Also with me, sue An Robinson,
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Speaker 1: high profile lawyer for Chenquila's family at Frontline Firm dot com.
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Speaker 1: That is a very rare and unique move, Miss Robinson,
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Speaker 1: Why did you and Chenquila's family feel you have to
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Speaker 1: write the president to get justice for Schenquila's death. The
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Speaker 1: uniqueness of the case and the links that we've had
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Speaker 1: to go to didn't start with the letter to the President.
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Speaker 1: I physically went on a fact finding mission to Mexico,
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Speaker 1: to Cabo to get information for Chakoola's family because they
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Speaker 1: were being ping ponged between US authorities and Mexican authorities
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Speaker 1: over the phone. And so, you know, Salamander gave me
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Speaker 1: the work. She said, listen, we need boots on the ground,
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Speaker 1: somebody to find out what's really going on because US
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Speaker 1: authorities are telling us it's Mexico's investigations. Mexico was saying,
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Speaker 1: you need to beginning your information from US authorities, and
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Speaker 1: we were just going around in a circle. So once
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Speaker 1: I went on that back finding mission and was advised
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Speaker 1: directly by the Attorney General in Mexico, Hey, we did
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Speaker 1: our investigation. We've done our forensics, we've done our photographic evidence,
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Speaker 1: We've taken witness statements. We've put all those things together
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Speaker 1: in a packet and sent it to the United States
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Speaker 1: to the SBI to interpool to begin the extradition process,
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Speaker 1: the request process. So there's we are. We have completed
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Speaker 1: our part. That's when we came back and had the
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Speaker 1: press conference, essentially saying, Okay, the ball is in the
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Speaker 1: US authority's court. What's going to happen, what's next. It's
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Speaker 1: a crying shame that you have to go through all this,
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Speaker 1: have a press conference, get yourself down to Mexico to investigate.
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Speaker 1: Now when you see say the AG and Mexico told
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Speaker 1: you Mexico has done all they need to do to
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Speaker 1: get the suspects back. Are you talking about the Mexican
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Speaker 1: Attorney General press in ba Hussar, which is the cabbo sticks. Basically,
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Speaker 1: we're cobbos. And the reason why the documents are even
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Speaker 1: attached to the letter is so that it closes the
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Speaker 1: gaps for the administration to say they didn't know about
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Speaker 1: the case. They don't know what's happening on the case,
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Speaker 1: they don't know the details, they don't know the apps.
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Speaker 1: There hasn't been an investigation, so it's very limited what
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Speaker 1: was attached because obviously we're not going to try and
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Speaker 1: put the investigation any type of jeopardy. But we're saying, look,
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Speaker 1: this has been investigated, there is video, photographic evidence, there
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Speaker 1: are witnesses that are at large in the United States.
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Speaker 1: This is a very serious case, and we're just hoping
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Speaker 1: to get some response. You know, it's amazing to me
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Speaker 1: that Sue Anne Robinson, high profile lawyer taking on the
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Speaker 1: shan Quila case, has sent a letter to the White
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Speaker 1: House to name a twenty six year old suspect wanted
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Speaker 1: in Mexico and includes an eighteen page packet with the autopsy,
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Speaker 1: police reports as of yet unreleased documents pertaining to the
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Speaker 1: investigation to show US authorities. Okay, here it is now
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Speaker 1: make the arrest. For those of you that are unfamiliar
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Speaker 1: with the case, this is a case you need to
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Speaker 1: know about. Schenquila. As I said, beautiful, brilliant, a loving
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Speaker 1: daughter goes away on a girl's trip to Mexico. As
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Speaker 1: I mentioned, we're hearing all about how dangerous Mexico is.
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Speaker 1: This is right a hop skipping a jump from where
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Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston all celebrities go, see pictures of them out
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Speaker 1: in their bikinis, eating chips and dip. She's there, it
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Speaker 1: is gorgeous resort and ends up dead in her own
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Speaker 1: hotel room. Okay, how did we get here? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut to CBS. I received the column
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Speaker 1: say just saying that my daughter was sick and then
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Speaker 1: she had alcohol poison, but her doctor had never arrassed.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where he got the alcohol poison front.
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Speaker 1: So at that time said the doctor was on the
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Speaker 1: way to examine her, and she wasn't responding as they
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Speaker 1: told me say she was risking a little bit that
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Speaker 1: she wasn't. It was all the way responding as normal.
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Speaker 1: I told them to keep me in room and I
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Speaker 1: wanted to nobody couldn't take it to the emerging room
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Speaker 1: they see it because they needed five thousand dollars cash
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Speaker 1: to be seen in the emergency room. And I said, well,
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Speaker 1: she has insurance and they said they didn't take insurance
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Speaker 1: by being out the country. Okay, that is total and complete. BS.
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Speaker 1: Your friend is lying there in a commentose state and
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Speaker 1: you don't take them to the ear. I have dived
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Speaker 1: in Mexico and how to go to the er. I
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Doctor Kennel Crowns joining me, the chief medical
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Speaker 1: Examiner Tarrant County. That's fort Worth. He is a lecturer
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Speaker 1: University Texas in Austin and at Texas Christian University Medical School.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Crowns, that story stinks to high heaven And what
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Speaker 1: are they physicians? How do they know she's got alcohol poisoning?
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Speaker 1: All right? I mean the alcohol poisoning story seems very fabricated,
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Speaker 1: and she would still be breathing, she would still be
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Speaker 1: at least have a pulse. But all the information we have,
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Speaker 1: it just looks like she was pretty much almost dead immediately,
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Speaker 1: especially when you watch that video. To me, it seems
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Speaker 1: like she's unresponsive as soon as she slipped over the
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Speaker 1: other girl's leg. Doctor Kennel Crowns, you have looked at
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Speaker 1: the video, and you have read the Mexican autopsy as
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Speaker 1: have I have studied it very carefully, and it's certainly
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Speaker 1: as not death by alcohol poisoning. What exactly happened to
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Speaker 1: Sing I can hardly stand it even look at the video. Well,
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Speaker 1: what's interesting about the autopsy report is there's so she
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Speaker 1: only has a couple bruises, one on her forehead on
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Speaker 1: kind of from the hand, So really she's not fighting
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Speaker 1: back at all. In watching the video, she's not fighting back.
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Speaker 1: She's just assaulted and then grabbed by the head and
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Speaker 1: then violently flung around. And what they did find at
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Speaker 1: the autopsy is the separation or the subluxation or the
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Speaker 1: movement of the vertebrae of her cervical spine, specifically the
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Speaker 1: axis and the atlas which slow down. Just just wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, Wait a minute, doctor, I'm just a JD,
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Speaker 1: not an m D. Please speak English. What are you saying?
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Speaker 1: So there's two vertebrae right right after your skull, or
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Speaker 1: the axis from the atlas, and those two vertebrae the
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Speaker 1: spinal cord is going through on that portion of the
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Speaker 1: spinal cord is very important because it has your ability
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Speaker 1: to keep your heart going, your breathing going, all that.
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Speaker 1: So it connects. Sure, those two cervical what do you
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Speaker 1: call them, the two what lyrical vertebrate? Vertebrate? They connect
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Speaker 1: your head to your spine, so your brain to the
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Speaker 1: rest of your body. Okay, got it all right? You said,
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Speaker 1: we're saying heart and what else, breathing, all those things
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Speaker 1: you don't think about, you know that keep you alive.
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Speaker 1: They're kind of contained in that area. So she's she's
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Speaker 1: grabbed and then flung violently, which causes the axis in
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Speaker 1: the atlas, which are the two cervical vertebrate that are
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Speaker 1: in that area of the spinal cord to move or dislocate,
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Speaker 1: and then they push on the spinal cord cause injury
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Speaker 1: to the spinal cord, which eventually results in her death,
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Speaker 1: did her head become disattached to her spine at those
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Speaker 1: two vertebrae, so there is potential for there to be. Basically,
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Speaker 1: the head is kind of pulled off of those vertebras,
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Speaker 1: so essentially, yes, it's become a detached but it's still
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Speaker 1: head held into place by muscle and all that. So
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Speaker 1: she isn't had it completely detached, but it was probably
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Speaker 1: for a brief second her her head was separated from
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Speaker 1: her spinal column while she was being flipped through the area.
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Speaker 1: Is that an internal decapitation? Yes, that that would be
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Speaker 1: what it would be called. Ya, So of course she
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Speaker 1: wasn't responding. Her brain couldn't send signals to the rest
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Speaker 1: of her body. I mean, and I saying this correctly
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Speaker 1: because I have no idea what I'm talking about right
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Speaker 1: now that would be correct yet, miss Sellimandra Robinson. I
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Speaker 1: know you told me that you can hardly stand a
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Speaker 1: look at that video, and I know you've heard all
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Speaker 1: of this before, but I am so sorry you have
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Speaker 1: to hear again what happened to your girl. I just
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Speaker 1: I find it all so hard to believe that her
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Speaker 1: friends did that, missus Robinson. He's still sad yeahs. In
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Speaker 1: the last days, Missus Robinson has had to get a lawyer,
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Speaker 1: Sue Anne Robinson, who had to pay for her trip
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Speaker 1: down to Mexico to try to get answers why nothing
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Speaker 1: is happening in this case. The video where you see
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Speaker 1: her getting rouse out of bed and everyone's standing around cackling.
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Speaker 1: They're like the witches around the fire, cackling and heckling
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Speaker 1: shan Quila and she's just just sitting there on the
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Speaker 1: carpet of the bedroom. Just I thought she was just
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Speaker 1: looking around. Days now, based on what doctor Kennel Crowns
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Speaker 1: is telling me, she couldn't do anything because at this
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Speaker 1: point she has had internal decapitation. Her head has been
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Speaker 1: jerked off those two I think you said, the atlas
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Speaker 1: and the axis vertebrates. That what you said, doctor, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's correct. And her brain, as try as it might,
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Speaker 1: it can no longer send signals to the rest of
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Speaker 1: her body. How did the whole thing unfold? Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to who Victor A Quindo at ABC On October
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth, one of the guests staying at the resort
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Speaker 1: called for help around two pm. Upon arriving, medical professionals
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Speaker 1: were informed that Robinson had drunk a lot of alcohol.
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Speaker 1: A doctor reportedly says she was stabled but dehydrated, suggesting
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Speaker 1: she may be treated at a hospital, the guests insisting
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Speaker 1: she remained at the villa. A police report seating Robinson
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Speaker 1: went into cardiac arrest and was declared deceased around six pm.
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Speaker 1: Back to missus Robinson, after they first called you incision
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Speaker 1: Quilla's six she got alcohol poisoning. What were those hours
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Speaker 1: like that passed until you found out she had passed away?
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Speaker 1: It was very hard, you know, and sad because there
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Speaker 1: was nothing I could do and I couldn't get to her,
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Speaker 1: even though you know, they was lying to me all
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Speaker 1: the time. But you know, I'm thinking that she had
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Speaker 1: drunk too much and had a good had a good time,
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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that she was gonna be okay, but
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Speaker 1: she wasn't. And at the time that they called me
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Speaker 1: pretty much sound like she was already, you know, m
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Speaker 1: dead if she wasn't, because and I don't understand what
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Speaker 1: kind of doctor that was, because it looked like the
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Speaker 1: doctor would have seen that she needed help, medica help
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Speaker 1: and took her to the doctor to the hospital instead
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Speaker 1: of sitting there as they say she was there two
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Speaker 1: hours an hour working on her, but she didn't getting
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Speaker 1: anything done. I just don't understand that. That's just so
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Speaker 1: heartbreaking that they sent a doctor to you and the
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Speaker 1: doctor could not do anything for you, did not do
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Speaker 1: anything for her, did not get it any help, you know,
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Speaker 1: Miss Robinson. It's never John David. My son is my
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Speaker 1: daughter Lucy. She's the one that always feels sick at school.
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Speaker 1: And granted, I would say about fifty percent of the
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Speaker 1: time it's true, but the moment I see her name
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Speaker 1: pop up on my phone, I don't care where I am.
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Speaker 1: If I'm in the studio, I can't. My whole heart
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Speaker 1: is in my chest until I can get to her.
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Speaker 1: And I remember the night that my father when my
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Speaker 1: life support. I had just gotten back to New York
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Speaker 1: and I got the call from my mother. I got
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Speaker 1: the twins out of the bed, got them addressed. When
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Speaker 1: we were out of the sidewalk trying to hell a taxi.
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Speaker 1: It at twelve thirty at night to try to get home,
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Speaker 1: and hours passed before I could get back home, and
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Speaker 1: at feeling I'm not being there to help him, It's
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Speaker 1: just I'll never forget it. What was going through your
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Speaker 1: mind in pain. Like I said, I couldn't get there
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Speaker 1: to her, you know, not knowing what's wrong, you know
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Speaker 1: what was wrong, and then come to find out, you
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Speaker 1: know that they had killed them, beat You know, I'm
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Speaker 1: thinking that it's alcohol poison. I think I could have
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Speaker 1: handed a little better thinking it was alcohol poison. But
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Speaker 1: when found out to somebody beat there and killed them,
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Speaker 1: you know, that just took it to a whole nother level.
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Speaker 1: I just sick of the I was sick from the beginning,
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Speaker 1: but I got even more sick joining me in addition
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Speaker 1: to Schenkuila's mom, Miss Elelange Robinson and their lawyer who's
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Speaker 1: taking this fight all the way to the White House,
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Speaker 1: Sue and Robinson with Frontline Firm. Also with me, Brandon
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Speaker 1: Hamilton with WBTV. Charlotte Brandon, I'm going to circle back
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Speaker 1: to you regarding why the hey aren't these women behind
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Speaker 1: bars right now? These so called friends and then the
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Speaker 1: one friend guy not a boyfriend, a friend of the
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Speaker 1: friend group, why aren't they all be hind bars? Because
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Speaker 1: even if they get after they get back from Cambo,
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Speaker 1: some of them go to Miss Robinson's house and lie
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Speaker 1: through their teeth to her about what happened to her daughter,
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Speaker 1: But could you tell me about the resort Brandon where
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Speaker 1: they were staying. Um, you know that resort, as you said,
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Speaker 1: is it's one of the five star resorts in Cabos,
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Speaker 1: So it's a villa. You know, everything is there that
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Speaker 1: you would expect for for vacation. But but to your question,
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Speaker 1: I'm as far as you know, why these the group
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Speaker 1: has not been arrested. I think Attorney Robinson talked about
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Speaker 1: it earlier. When as far as the information, so we've
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Speaker 1: been requesting multiple documents, not only from the FBI, from
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Speaker 1: the State Department, from Mexican authorities, and we've also on
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Speaker 1: you know, the journalists, journalisms. I have Guyan team palm
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Speaker 1: back and forth. I've been told numerous times over reach
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Speaker 1: out to Mexican authorities. Then Mexican authorities saw us to
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Speaker 1: reach out to the US authorities. So it's been hard
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Speaker 1: to try to figure out why no one has been
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Speaker 1: arrested because definding those facts, we've been you know, shoveled
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Speaker 1: in so many different directions. So as far as the
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Speaker 1: fact of why they haven't, it's a good question that
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Speaker 1: we've been trying to dig for since the beginning in
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Speaker 1: October November. I have a reason. It's just Suan Robinson.
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Speaker 1: It is go ahead, man, go ahead. A transnational criminal
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Speaker 1: case takes a high level of diplomatic intervention. The President
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Speaker 1: has to talk to the head of state in Mexico
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Speaker 1: and the head of our law enforcement agencies has to
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Speaker 1: talk to Mexican law enforcement agency heads in order for
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Speaker 1: either the US citizens involved be extradited and go back
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Speaker 1: to Mexico and be tried under Mexican laws, or for
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Speaker 1: the US authorities to say, we're going to ask for
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Speaker 1: king current jurisdiction, do our own investigation, and prosecute those
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Speaker 1: people here. Those are the things that have to be done.
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Speaker 1: There's precedent, there's protocol, there's a one hundred year old
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Speaker 1: treaty for extradition. It's not anything that's new. What's new
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Speaker 1: and unique in this case is that we're having two
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Speaker 1: begs for it to be done. We just saw with
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Speaker 1: the Mexican kidnapping case it was very easy for federal
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Speaker 1: law enforcement in the United States to join with Mexican
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Speaker 1: law enforcement, list the reward of fifty thousand dollars and
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Speaker 1: gets that kidnapping case locked down and resolved with Mexican
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Speaker 1: law enforcement agencies. So it's not an issue that it
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Speaker 1: can't be done, that there's so much red tape that
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Speaker 1: it takes weeks and weeks or one hundred and thirty
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Speaker 1: eight days in Chanclola's case. It can be done very swiftly.
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Speaker 1: It's just not being done, and I don't understand that.
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Speaker 1: Guys with me an expert and exactly this issue. IRV
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Speaker 1: Brand is joining US Senior Inspector US Marshall Service in
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Speaker 1: International Investigations Branch. The chief Inspector was with DOJ Office
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Speaker 1: of International Affairs, has worked in multiple embassies, and author
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Speaker 1: of Solo Shot and also Flying Solo, both on Amazon.
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Speaker 1: EARV Brand. Before you answer that question, I'm wanting to
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Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut five at the very
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Speaker 1: beginning Earth. We already know the friends are lying and
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Speaker 1: who are the friends. Not only do we have them
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Speaker 1: on video, but the hotel employees, the resort employees directed
23:41
Speaker 1: cops to the registration and there's all their names and
23:46
Speaker 1: their addresses and their passport numbers. The whole shebang don't
23:51
Speaker 1: need a lot of investigation. Listen to this Earth, but
23:54
Speaker 1: those reports differing from an autopsy obteamed by ABC News,
23:58
Speaker 1: steating that medical profess tionals arrived at the villa around
24:01
Speaker 1: three pm and declared her dead within fifteen minutes, citing
24:05
Speaker 1: that Robinson died from a severe spinal cord injury and
24:08
Speaker 1: a dislocated neck. But this happened to her just terrible,
24:13
Speaker 1: you know, I just couldn't believe it. It's like I'm asleep,
24:16
Speaker 1: like a nightmare. They all came to my house on
24:19
Speaker 1: Tuesday and explained what had happened. Salamandra session Quilla's friends
24:24
Speaker 1: blamed her death on alcohol. Then the Robinson family received
24:28
Speaker 1: a copy of her death certificate. It shows she died
24:31
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes after injuring her neck and spinal cord. The
24:35
Speaker 1: report also states shann Quila was found unconscious in the
24:38
Speaker 1: living room and her death is believed to be violent
24:42
Speaker 1: or accidental. So there you have it, ear of Brandt,
24:45
Speaker 1: you're the expert in these foreign affairs, particularly in Mexico.
24:50
Speaker 1: You've got their names and all their info listed on
24:52
Speaker 1: the resort registration. You've got their pictures from their passports,
24:58
Speaker 1: you have their hall and and you have a video
25:02
Speaker 1: of them killing. What is the problem, Earth, Nancy? There
25:08
Speaker 1: is no problem. The way you do well they're not
25:11
Speaker 1: in jail. That's my problem. Exactly the way you just
25:16
Speaker 1: laid it out, you would think that these people would
25:20
Speaker 1: be already in custody in the extradition process would have
25:23
Speaker 1: already begun, and they'd just be waiting to be transported
25:28
Speaker 1: to Mexico. The problem, as I understand it, is that
25:33
Speaker 1: there's only been one warrant issued for one suspect in
25:38
Speaker 1: this case, and that warrant was femicide, which is not
25:43
Speaker 1: an extraditable offense from the United States, when Mexican authorities
25:49
Speaker 1: knowing going into this case, investigating this case, No, the
25:54
Speaker 1: victim is an American. No, the suspects are American because,
25:58
Speaker 1: like you said, they had to asport numbers, they had
26:01
Speaker 1: all their information, they know where they're from. They decided
26:07
Speaker 1: purposely decided to charge semicide. Now I don't know they
26:14
Speaker 1: checked the International Extradition Treaty with the United States or
26:18
Speaker 1: not before deciding on the charge. If they did, they
26:25
Speaker 1: would have sawved they can't extradite someone from the United
26:29
Speaker 1: States on that charge. Okay, wait a minute, whoa wait,
26:31
Speaker 1: wait wait wait, I thought a treaty for extradition is
26:37
Speaker 1: what you enforce when you can't get the extradition done.
26:40
Speaker 1: You say, look, we've got a treaty, you have to
26:43
Speaker 1: It says to me the US would want to extradite them.
26:47
Speaker 1: That's correct, Nancy, that is correct. But under the treaty
26:52
Speaker 1: that we have with Mexico, which we've had for a
26:55
Speaker 1: long time, and we both sides extradite citizens. Oh, continuously,
27:02
Speaker 1: there's listed crimes, but isn't femicide which is the homicide
27:09
Speaker 1: of a woman is still a homicide. It's just a
27:13
Speaker 1: different name for homicide. That's correct, but it doesn't work
27:17
Speaker 1: like that. You know this as an attorney and legal terms,
27:20
Speaker 1: she can't say you know what I mean. Yeah, you're right, Okay,
27:23
Speaker 1: you're right. It's scott to be reindicted. Can bring their
27:26
Speaker 1: own charges so that we don't sue. And Robinson speaking,
27:30
Speaker 1: you're saying the US federal government can bring their own
27:35
Speaker 1: charges and try or explained of course, that they can
27:40
Speaker 1: investigate the case themselves. Heck, these people left Mexico and
27:46
Speaker 1: transported evidence in Chanquila's suitcase to her mother's house. They
27:52
Speaker 1: were talking over a cell phone with each other via
27:57
Speaker 1: text messages. So there's plenty of being been issues that
28:01
Speaker 1: the Feds can investigate. State side to take these people
28:05
Speaker 1: into custody for you mean, try them in the US too, am, Absolutely,
28:10
Speaker 1: And they can do that by requesting concurrent jurisdiction and saying, okay,
28:15
Speaker 1: may we go to Mexico and look at the crime
28:17
Speaker 1: scene ourselves. Okay, we've done that. Now we're going to
28:20
Speaker 1: initiate our own investigation in the United States by picking
28:23
Speaker 1: up these people and having the conversations that need to
28:26
Speaker 1: be had. The United States can ask for their own
28:30
Speaker 1: to have a concurrent investigation with Mexico. They just did
28:33
Speaker 1: it with the kidnapping case or brand. We saw this
28:38
Speaker 1: to some degree in the Natalie Holloway case, where everyone
28:42
Speaker 1: was screaming, why don't you just try the case in
28:44
Speaker 1: the US. We didn't have. You have to have not
28:47
Speaker 1: only subject matter jurisdiction, you have to have geographical jurisdiction.
28:54
Speaker 1: But that said, the US does have subject matter jurisdiction,
28:59
Speaker 1: but as the victim as a US citizen, but we
29:03
Speaker 1: don't have geographic jurisdiction. So how can we overcome that?
29:09
Speaker 1: Or can we overcome that? Nancy, It happens, but it
29:14
Speaker 1: happens very rarely. I have only worked a few cases,
29:19
Speaker 1: and it wasn't cases where they wanted to try the
29:24
Speaker 1: case in the United States. They wanted to try the
29:27
Speaker 1: case in another country. You mean US officials want to
29:31
Speaker 1: try the case in another country, because Sue Anne Robinson,
29:33
Speaker 1: no no, no, no, keeps pointing out the recent Mexico
29:37
Speaker 1: reportedly cartail murder of Americans that were there for a
29:41
Speaker 1: tummy tuck. According to them, yes we got results, Yes
29:47
Speaker 1: the White House reportedly intervened. But those killers, I believe
29:52
Speaker 1: are being tried in Mexico. What I'm understanding or brand
29:57
Speaker 1: is that our best shot is to get Mexico to
30:01
Speaker 1: re and die with homicide, which is a really They've
30:05
Speaker 1: already gotten one indictment off femicide, same grand jury, given
30:09
Speaker 1: the same evidence, and indict for homicide. Don't you think
30:12
Speaker 1: that's the easiest, simplest way to get just as Earth Nancy,
30:16
Speaker 1: I think that's the only way. The alternatives are just
30:21
Speaker 1: the complexity of the alternatives, I don't think or makes
30:25
Speaker 1: it possible. The only way that these people are going
30:31
Speaker 1: to be prosecuted as if they're charged with an extraditable
30:36
Speaker 1: crime then taken back to Mexico and prosecuted there. It
30:42
Speaker 1: doesn't It doesn't take one hundred and thirty six days
30:45
Speaker 1: for the United States States Department to say, hey, guys,
30:48
Speaker 1: we don't agree with this charge. Can you go back
30:51
Speaker 1: and reindict or exactly what is right under the treaty.
30:54
Speaker 1: It doesn't take one hundred and thirty six days for that,
30:57
Speaker 1: and somebody actually has to do that. Someone has to
31:00
Speaker 1: say other than us, has to say, hey, we can't
31:04
Speaker 1: extradate based on this charge. So the issue is why
31:07
Speaker 1: isn't it being done? Crime stories with Nancy Grace? Isn't
31:25
Speaker 1: it true? Brandon Hamilton joining me from wb TV? Isn't
31:30
Speaker 1: it true? We know who the perps are. They're in
31:34
Speaker 1: the video. We not only know where they did live
31:37
Speaker 1: before they immediately moved and got rid of their cell phones.
31:40
Speaker 1: You know, it's not hard to track down people just
31:43
Speaker 1: because you get rid of your cell phone and move,
31:45
Speaker 1: because you're still trackable through your bank records, your ATM movements,
31:50
Speaker 1: what you do with your job. You're not working anymore.
31:53
Speaker 1: Go to their family, their mom, their dad, their cousins,
31:55
Speaker 1: their brothers, their sisters and find them. That's not the
31:58
Speaker 1: hard part. We know who these people are. For Pete,
32:02
Speaker 1: say what is named in a letter to the White
32:04
Speaker 1: House and answer that is Greg and you meet. When
32:07
Speaker 1: you said tracking people down, I actually tracked down one
32:10
Speaker 1: of those friends back in December. I traveled to her job.
32:14
Speaker 1: She got off work. I met her in the parking lot.
32:17
Speaker 1: You know, went up to her and you know, asked
32:19
Speaker 1: her what happosition cool Robinson. Now, she had the look
32:23
Speaker 1: of a ghost, like like she saw a ghost when
32:25
Speaker 1: she realized that I was with a TV station. So
32:30
Speaker 1: if you know, through sources, I found this address, It's
32:34
Speaker 1: not hard for the federal government to do the same. Guys,
32:37
Speaker 1: listen to our cut nine from w SC. Salamandra Robinson
32:42
Speaker 1: describes her daughter Chanquila as a hard working business owner.
32:46
Speaker 1: She remembers the last moment she saw her daughter happy
32:50
Speaker 1: on a trip with friends in Cabo, Mexico. That's the
32:53
Speaker 1: best some of her posts that she had put up.
32:55
Speaker 1: She was really having a nice time and I don't
32:57
Speaker 1: know where it went wrong from there. Salomandra hold me
33:00
Speaker 1: over zoom. She last spoke with her daughter on the
33:02
Speaker 1: phone on Friday, October twenty eighth. The next day, Salamandra
33:07
Speaker 1: says she received a friendic call from Shanquila's friends. They
33:11
Speaker 1: say she wasn't billing ware that it was alcohol boys
33:14
Speaker 1: and we was going along with this story even though
33:17
Speaker 1: we'd never believe anything. It was turnless, Salamandra says she
33:20
Speaker 1: came across this video. Salamandra identified the people in the
33:25
Speaker 1: video as Shan Quila and her Cabo travel partners. You
33:29
Speaker 1: can hear someone in the video ask if Quela could
33:32
Speaker 1: at least fight back. There wasn't no fight. They attacked her.
33:37
Speaker 1: It was never fight. She didn't fight, They attacked her. Now,
33:41
Speaker 1: Salamandra says she has more questions than answers. She wants
33:46
Speaker 1: justice for her daughter. She was a good chat and
33:48
Speaker 1: had a great heart and she did not deserve to
33:51
Speaker 1: be treat like that. Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renowned
33:56
Speaker 1: psychoanalysts joining us out of Beverly Hills at doctor Bethany
33:59
Speaker 1: Marshall dot So the mom Miss Robinson, she ain't even great.
34:05
Speaker 1: So she's all torn up about losing her daughter, and
34:10
Speaker 1: in the midst of that, she's trying to force two
34:14
Speaker 1: governments to reconcile to seek justice. And also in the
34:18
Speaker 1: middle of all of this, Nancy, she has these crazy
34:22
Speaker 1: homicidal friends of her daughter contacting her at large, texting
34:28
Speaker 1: each other. All this communication going on, it could be
34:32
Speaker 1: possible evidence, you know, the missing peace in all of this.
34:35
Speaker 1: I look at this from a group psychology perspective. In
34:39
Speaker 1: every group, one person gets cast out and devalued valued.
34:43
Speaker 1: And if we think of the group at this group
34:45
Speaker 1: psychology is consisting of the Mexican government, the US government,
34:50
Speaker 1: the White House, that Schenquila is the one in this
34:54
Speaker 1: group who has been cast out and devalued as if
34:57
Speaker 1: her life is worthless. And evidence of that is that
35:01
Speaker 1: there is so much going on that could convict these friends.
35:07
Speaker 1: And there's this also, this this missing piece of psychology.
35:10
Speaker 1: I'm trying to wrap my mind around. Nancy, have you
35:13
Speaker 1: guys planned a girl's trip? I know you've been married
35:16
Speaker 1: forever and you have your kids, but you ever planned
35:19
Speaker 1: just to go out of town with friends, not twins?
35:22
Speaker 1: So you tell me, okay, I'm well, all the friends
35:27
Speaker 1: start texting each other, what are you going to wear?
35:29
Speaker 1: Or you know, are you going to tuck a suitcase?
35:32
Speaker 1: Are you just going to do a carry on? You know?
35:34
Speaker 1: How long are we going to take it? You know what?
35:35
Speaker 1: At the restaurants we're going to go to, there is
35:38
Speaker 1: so much communication, and to think that during that communication
35:43
Speaker 1: that these friends actually had homicidal intent towards chan Quila.
35:48
Speaker 1: This was not just an attack that happened spontaneously. These
35:52
Speaker 1: friends wanted her. So called friends wanted her out of
35:57
Speaker 1: the way so that the plotting, the planning, the motivation
36:01
Speaker 1: happened weeks before the homicide. Where is all that evidence?
36:07
Speaker 1: Why don't we know much about that? And why is
36:10
Speaker 1: this lovely family attorney or lovely attorney who is there
36:16
Speaker 1: for the family. Why did she have to go down
36:19
Speaker 1: and do the investigation herself. I just don't see how
36:22
Speaker 1: she can heal at all until she gets justice. I mean,
36:26
Speaker 1: I remember after my fiance was murdered. There was of
36:30
Speaker 1: course the shot in the grieving, but you can I
36:33
Speaker 1: can't even start to get one step further until after
36:36
Speaker 1: the trial, which was a whole nightmare within itself. Missus Robinson,
36:42
Speaker 1: Chicquola's mother, what was the argument about? Why were they
36:47
Speaker 1: picking on her? I have no idea, m book. I
36:50
Speaker 1: don't know everything was normal. I didn't know that they
36:53
Speaker 1: had a you know, a beef with each other. I
36:56
Speaker 1: didn't know anything about that. Missus Robinson. When you how
37:00
Speaker 1: want that it take you before? You would look at
37:01
Speaker 1: that video, well, I look to see the people in
37:05
Speaker 1: the video. And I still have a hard time looking
37:08
Speaker 1: at the way that she actually done my child. But
37:11
Speaker 1: I did it. It took me a good I know,
37:15
Speaker 1: probably a good month before I could actually look at it.
37:18
Speaker 1: Sue Anne Robinson joining us the lawyer for Chanquola's family.
37:21
Speaker 1: You can find her frontline firm dot com. Sue Anne,
37:26
Speaker 1: I mean you've had to now go to Mexico and investigate.
37:30
Speaker 1: I guess now you'll have to go back to Mexico
37:33
Speaker 1: to pressure the Attorney General to reindict the case as
37:39
Speaker 1: opposed to femicide as a homicide. Is that what it's
37:43
Speaker 1: going to take. I certainly hope that I don't have
37:46
Speaker 1: to continue to do the job that the Department of
37:50
Speaker 1: Justice in the State Department is supposed to do. I'm
37:53
Speaker 1: hoping that the deep, the level of detail, including suggested
37:57
Speaker 1: charges pursuance to their own investigation, that we included in
38:02
Speaker 1: the letter, you know, would be enough assistance. The issue, honestly,
38:06
Speaker 1: isn't that there's precedent. Isn't that the Department of Justice
38:09
Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do, that the State Department does
38:12
Speaker 1: not know what to do. It's not prioritize and this
38:16
Speaker 1: just happens to be a case where justice delayed will
38:19
Speaker 1: absolutely be justice denied because every single day that goes by,
38:24
Speaker 1: evidence is being dissipated. Eyewitness testimony is being dissipated, their
38:30
Speaker 1: memories are fading, physical evidence is not present. And so
38:35
Speaker 1: every single day that passes an hour in one hundred
38:37
Speaker 1: and thirty seventh day that passes from this heinous act
38:41
Speaker 1: can lead to this case met possibly never getting justice.
38:45
Speaker 1: And that's not an option for the family, and that's
38:48
Speaker 1: not right and it's not fair. I've had cases that
38:52
Speaker 1: lingered until the point where I've actually had witnesses die
38:56
Speaker 1: before I could get the case to trial. Her brand.
38:59
Speaker 1: Could you please speak in a nutshell and tell me
39:02
Speaker 1: what's the answer. The answer is just what Attorney Robertson
39:07
Speaker 1: just set the Mexican authorities. US authorities obviously have to
39:14
Speaker 1: communicate better with each other. If Mexican authorities haven't been
39:20
Speaker 1: told that the extradition request has been denied because the
39:27
Speaker 1: charge is wrong, then they should be informed of that,
39:32
Speaker 1: and then Mexican authorities should reindict the case with the
39:38
Speaker 1: correct charge that these people can be extradited under the tree.
39:42
Speaker 1: It's not harder a mistrial and an opening statement once
39:46
Speaker 1: on a Monday, where I call the child sex traffickers
39:50
Speaker 1: a pimp. They weren't charged with pimp, so there was
39:54
Speaker 1: a mistrial because I said that an opening statement. I
39:56
Speaker 1: went back to the granjury on Tuesday and had it
39:58
Speaker 1: reindited it include a misdemeanor charge of pymptom and started
40:02
Speaker 1: with a new jury on Wednesday. It's not hard to
40:06
Speaker 1: re indict. If you want your voice to be heard,
40:10
Speaker 1: if you want justice for shan Quila Robinson, please go
40:15
Speaker 1: to crime online dot com and sign our online petition.
40:20
Speaker 1: We are sending it to Mexico authorities. We are sending
40:23
Speaker 1: it to Carolina authorities, to the attorney general in both jurisdictions,
40:28
Speaker 1: and to the White House. Taking a page out of
40:31
Speaker 1: the book of Sue Anne Robinson, I want justice for
40:36
Speaker 1: shan Quila and her mother. We wait as justice unfolds.
40:42
Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,