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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_ EPISODE _165_ HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 8: Well, I'm back, let me yes, I can hear you
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  Speaker 8: you guys for joining me for another episode of Let's
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  Speaker 8: Talk About It. We are having a little problem over
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  Speaker 8: here with the technology. You know, I have Verizon, and
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  Speaker 8: Verizon went down on us all day and so now
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  Speaker 8: we're getting back into the swing of things.
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  Speaker 9: Last Monday, I know I had a bonus show.
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  Speaker 8: I was supposed to talk about Marcel Williams, the the
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  Speaker 8: man that was wrongfully convicted and miss was it Missouri
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  Speaker 8: that they had put to death? Last last Tuesday that happened.
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  Speaker 9: So I just got a whole bunch of things going on.
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  Speaker 8: I moved, so I don't have all my notes with me,
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  Speaker 8: but we're going to make the best of it. And
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  Speaker 8: I want to send my heartfelt condolence to our queen
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  Speaker 8: of collaborations, Angela Thomas Smith, who lost her brother well
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  Speaker 8: we're not going to say lost her brother transition about
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  Speaker 8: a week ago. So I would like for you guys
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  Speaker 8: to keep her family uplifted in your prayers, because you
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  Speaker 8: know it's a struggle when you lose someone dear and
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  Speaker 8: you all sending you a big old hug and big
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  Speaker 8: old kisses from everyone over here.
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  Speaker 9: Let's talk about it. So right now with.
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  Speaker 8: Further the little you know, I'm all over the police. People,
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  Speaker 8: please forgive me. I have Sebastian Royce joining me back,
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  Speaker 8: and we're going to continue our conversation with Sebastian. As
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  Speaker 8: you guys know, Sebastian is currently incarcerated in Texas on
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  Speaker 8: a wrongful conviction, and we're going to continue with his story.
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  Speaker 8: I told him that whatever was said to him, whatever
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  Speaker 8: was mentioned to him, let's put it out there, you know,
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  Speaker 8: so you may hear a little little cussing. If your
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  Speaker 8: ears is kind of sensitive, just cover them up, you know.
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  Speaker 8: We just I want everything out there for him. And
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  Speaker 8: also I have my co host Cornell is joining me,
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  Speaker 8: So everybody welcome Cornell.
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  Speaker 9: Cornell, are you here.
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  Speaker 10: Tonight.
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  Speaker 9: We're doing good.
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  Speaker 8: Let me get you up because the volume is I'm
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  Speaker 8: kind of low. Okay, go ahead again.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, ma'am doing just to be on the show tonight.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you very much, mind for having me.
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  Speaker 8: Yes, we're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna work with what
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  Speaker 8: we got. You know, if you if they can't hear you,
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  Speaker 8: then I'll just repeat the question, Sebastian, did you you
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  Speaker 8: you hear what I said? Okay, so we're gonna do
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  Speaker 8: the best well we can we what we have to
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  Speaker 8: deal with because you know technology is not.
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  Speaker 9: Now that is top notch today.
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  Speaker 8: So Sebastian, let's go ahead. Let's continue where we left
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  Speaker 8: off at. Okay, hmm, go ahead.
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  Speaker 9: What'd you say, Sebastian.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I said something before we get started.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. The last show you asked me who I was?
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  Speaker 2: Who is Sebastian? And I was so overwhelmed with all
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  Speaker 2: of that that's coming coming and here I'm so used
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  Speaker 2: to being a number that I haven't thought about who
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  Speaker 2: I am in a long time. And for that show,
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  Speaker 2: I've been hiding disappointed myself that I've got to tell everyone.
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  Speaker 2: The most important thing is who I am. I'm a
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  Speaker 2: following up fight. I'm not perfect, and I've never seen
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  Speaker 2: to me. If they don't remember anything else, I'm him.
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  Speaker 2: This is christ As, my lawyer of Saviors. I'm also
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  Speaker 2: an artist. I love musing, I work out, I'm grown
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  Speaker 2: to love reading book. All of this along with the
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  Speaker 2: support of other of my family and friends. But that's
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  Speaker 2: how I got here. That's out there.
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  Speaker 9: Continue, let's get to it. Let's talk, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So we left off with the Jamie Parlright situation, and
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  Speaker 2: there was a silar reason that I left off with
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  Speaker 2: that on the last show, I said that even so
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  Speaker 2: we admitted that he goes to Jamie Park right now,
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  Speaker 2: he asked her for something of Michael bullet down where
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  Speaker 2: he mentions all this was. What he doesn't mention is
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  Speaker 2: going back to her house not want to fight after this.
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  Speaker 2: So during my trial, I had a witness list and
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  Speaker 2: the witness and there was no Jamie Park right on
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  Speaker 2: this witness list. So my travel went through Monday through Friday.
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  Speaker 2: On that Friday, but he brings this up and my
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  Speaker 2: attorney acted like he couldn't believe that they didn't have
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  Speaker 2: that on there, that we needed to find it for
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  Speaker 2: the following Monday. When we go back to Draw, all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, Jamie Cartwright is on the on the
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  Speaker 2: Dax Bose.
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  Speaker 10: As a witness.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the reason I'm bringing his TULP is because they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to hide her because when she was understand
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  Speaker 2: she admits, yeah, I mean he shows back up here
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  Speaker 2: and he was all distruck, and when she asked what
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  Speaker 2: was wrong, he tells her the D two cans and
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  Speaker 2: she asked what he said? Nothing, He leaves, But then
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  Speaker 2: when he returns and show him because later she asked
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  Speaker 2: him me too. And now he's not saying he did it.
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  Speaker 2: That's when he changed the story and she.
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  Speaker 9: Did it, Okay. So I just want to I don't
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  Speaker 9: mean to cut you off. I just want to read.
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  Speaker 8: You said that Jamie Jamie Carbright was not a witness
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  Speaker 8: on your not on the witness list, No.
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  Speaker 2: Man, she they had her like she was not on there, betail.
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  Speaker 2: They found out that we were looking for her, and
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  Speaker 2: then they put her on there the follow week. So
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  Speaker 2: after they put her on there, that's when they changed
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  Speaker 2: how they were trying me. They didn't started change trying
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  Speaker 2: me as a law artist.
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  Speaker 9: Because home was. They trying you at first.
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  Speaker 2: As the one who did the murder all the way.
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  Speaker 8: And then once they found term, then they changed the
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  Speaker 8: whole concept of how they was going to try you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but now they're not. What about trying to the
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  Speaker 2: show like how they said in the beginning, we're going
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  Speaker 2: to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that mister Willis did it.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's not about that. Now, it doesn't matter whether
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  Speaker 2: or not I did it. All they got to do
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  Speaker 2: is make the security believe something this story that they've got,
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  Speaker 2: and that's what they how they conditioned.
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  Speaker 9: It mm hmm. Okay, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: H okay. We got what we call the text law,
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  Speaker 2: and wouldn't that be in see man, the chief was
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  Speaker 2: that he wasted as.
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  Speaker 10: The primary actor in the case.
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  Speaker 2: And during the twelve they was discussing whether or not
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  Speaker 2: they were going to convict him as the primary actors
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  Speaker 2: until they she came up and said that she knows
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  Speaker 2: that somebody else had.
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  Speaker 11: Victim.
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  Speaker 2: So when that happened, the District of Country's office then
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  Speaker 2: changed the process on the truck. They don't they're presented
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  Speaker 2: the jury. Now they're the tree on the law party
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  Speaker 2: which is in this call under circumstance revidence. So mister
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  Speaker 2: Schabastian goes from here the primary actors and.
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  Speaker 10: Now being a party to the offensive the person.
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  Speaker 2: So now his code desend is the one that they're
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  Speaker 2: using under what we call is the couplers witness testimony.
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  Speaker 2: So now he's going to testify, getting mister Chabastian and
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  Speaker 2: then on mister Schabastian as a law he's not the
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  Speaker 2: primary reacting no more. He's just the person who anticipated now,
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  Speaker 2: so that's.
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  Speaker 10: What supported it by So this is what's making him action.
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  Speaker 11: Right now.
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  Speaker 10: So that's mine that's what I have on that.
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  Speaker 9: Man, did you hear what he said? Sebastian, that's that
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  Speaker 9: in your thoughts?
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  Speaker 8: Is that because you you sound a little fuzzy, So
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  Speaker 8: I just want to make sure that that's what you
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  Speaker 8: was trying to relate to the viewers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, man, that's what I was trying to convey. Both.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, now continue here.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I just want to kind of slow down
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  Speaker 8: because I just want people to hear the the you know,
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  Speaker 8: hear what.
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  Speaker 9: They how they did you.
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  Speaker 8: Now, you know, first when they found out that you
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  Speaker 8: your defense was looking looking for this witness, they went
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  Speaker 8: and got her.
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  Speaker 9: And now the whole scenario how they're gonna.
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  Speaker 8: Try you has changed. So, you know, we I want
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  Speaker 8: all of that to be out I want to I
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  Speaker 8: want people to know how they treated you. You know,
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  Speaker 8: so forgive me if I jump in and ask certain
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  Speaker 8: questions because I just want your story to be told, right,
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  Speaker 8: I just want everything to be out there.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, Okay, so let's let's go ahead.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, So.
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  Speaker 2: When when cases body was following was heard, there was
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  Speaker 2: another DNA, female DNA it was never identified on Candy
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  Speaker 2: fault and then he just overlooked at they only shaid,
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  Speaker 2: ain't the LAMB DNA good and it didn't match. So
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  Speaker 2: instead of looking at that, taking that in that there's
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  Speaker 2: another subject, they just slipped over. They just figured out.
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  Speaker 9: So so you're telling us that.
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  Speaker 8: On the victim's phone that that it was another person DNA.
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  Speaker 2: Yees.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And it came and they never tested it. They
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  Speaker 8: never seen who DNA. They don't know who DNA it was.
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  Speaker 2: No. Yeah, they say, I have no idea that DNA.
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  Speaker 8: Did your defensive lawyers did they question that? Did they
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  Speaker 8: try to get it tested?
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  Speaker 2: My second attorney that I had after my first attorney
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  Speaker 2: that I had. My second attorney, he didn't.
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  Speaker 10: Do much.
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  Speaker 2: Much, touch me, muster at all. The stuff was coming out,
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  Speaker 2: even exacted like we just just fried over and over
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  Speaker 2: the one thing that he did do was that he
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  Speaker 2: did mention that Stephen police along with Tampa with evidence
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  Speaker 2: sending Chad Dumer and Martin Expand story changed three to
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  Speaker 2: five times, but my story never changed one time.
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  Speaker 10: Also be.
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  Speaker 2: Dumer and Extrand. They all say that I met him
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  Speaker 2: MSUs carwash where I handed off the power raft around
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  Speaker 2: the gun with the investigators go and check this dude, SILA.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't on the video and by PI went in
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  Speaker 2: Fox with this fine watch on it and he found
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  Speaker 2: out that I wasn't on the stage, and then yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I don't watch him. What apter to the videotape? If
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  Speaker 2: I watched some of the sayers did? He asked the
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  Speaker 2: cops what what they wanted to do with the video tape,
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  Speaker 2: and he told him that, uh, he could go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and the reporter over they could need it. So instead
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  Speaker 2: of taking that end to prove that these guys were lying,
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  Speaker 2: then sooner that I wasn't a car washed, that I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have anything over, they destroyed evidence and then they're
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  Speaker 2: in my trouble. They said that they checked it yet,
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  Speaker 2: but what was insult They said that it was already
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  Speaker 2: too late. But it wasn't because this reporting system out
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  Speaker 2: of seven to fourteen day reporting systems, and they and
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  Speaker 2: check it on like.
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  Speaker 8: So, Cornell, you have any questions because you know at
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  Speaker 8: this point, you know, I'm kind of I'm you know,
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  Speaker 8: is I'm cat kind of a little upset?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, yes, ma'am, I'm understanding that wouldn't look ma'am.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, here is what really happen in the
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  Speaker 2: case for what the video tape What happened is that
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  Speaker 2: the detectives in this case, they knew that the video
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  Speaker 2: tape would excluding mister Schabastian. So what they did they
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  Speaker 2: let the call I want to keep the video tape.
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  Speaker 2: This would have allowed him to come up the videotation
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  Speaker 2: and cover open the video tape.
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  Speaker 10: So now because the.
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  Speaker 2: Videotape to the key piece of what they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: be used with an all the time, I don't find
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  Speaker 2: the murder weapers indicating that mister Schabastian gave the murder
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  Speaker 2: weapons to these other two guys to destroy the murder
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  Speaker 2: whoopers now come to buy. Now they had no video
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  Speaker 2: tape to on that. Now the video takes the piece
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  Speaker 2: the buildings that would exclude the respect. But what that
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  Speaker 2: man said now the only fric from catri evident mister
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  Speaker 2: Sebastian is who is now claiming in mister Sebastian is
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  Speaker 2: the one who calls the desert the victim and money
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  Speaker 2: announce build that. Then he develop phone of the victim.
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  Speaker 2: But again I come better, and he came in that
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  Speaker 2: there was a female ming on the telephone. And not
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  Speaker 2: only that, the cody had the stem card mess to
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  Speaker 2: the phone.
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  Speaker 11: Of the victim.
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  Speaker 2: So now to give you is this, how does he
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  Speaker 2: have the stem card and the problem of the victim
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  Speaker 2: and again enough the town on the phone from the female.
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  Speaker 2: So now the issue is this, he has to be
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  Speaker 2: a crime same with the feeling of the victim. He
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  Speaker 2: needed before her this and order for him to take the.
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  Speaker 9: Stip card out of a phone exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh any any times for a time he did not form.
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  Speaker 8: Sebastian, did your defensive attorney ever raised the question about
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  Speaker 8: how did the co defendant attain the slim card of
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  Speaker 8: the victims?
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  Speaker 2: Not that I can remember, No, that he just let
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff fly by. Now so me was
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  Speaker 2: on the stand and he does so. The cause that
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  Speaker 2: he was the candis before she died, and he admitted
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  Speaker 2: and he calls from Handerson's phone about his rugs, you know,
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  Speaker 2: before that and also upon checking his background story as
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  Speaker 2: you see, you've got another video surveyor to another convenience,
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  Speaker 2: and it shows that it's just handing her. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: run the fisher and also police ran to call, he said,
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  Speaker 2: and he talked to me before Therry and after the murderers.
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  Speaker 2: But on the phone records they don't match up. It
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  Speaker 2: always showed that he caused me around fourty thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: am in the morning, and then I don't answer. And
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  Speaker 2: when this was said during my trial, the detectors just said, oh,
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  Speaker 2: whatever he is to walk and talking because it was
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  Speaker 2: the Boots forms. But here's the thing, the Booe hubbs
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  Speaker 2: the Boos walking, he also has a regency me.
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  Speaker 8: You know, you know, I don't know how you guys
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  Speaker 8: are feeling. But you know, every listening to how they
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  Speaker 8: didn't have they didn't take the uh the DNA on
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  Speaker 8: the phone, how they didn't uh they covered up the
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  Speaker 8: surveillance camera, how the co defendant had the slim card.
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  Speaker 9: Did not the jury. I mean, was this said in
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  Speaker 9: the presence of the jury.
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  Speaker 8: We already know to me, your your little your defense attorney.
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  Speaker 9: To me, the way he let these little things lide
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  Speaker 9: was like, was he sleep?
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  Speaker 2: I believe that you that's always that I think.
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  Speaker 8: I mean you to spend all that money and everything
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  Speaker 8: that you just heard, everything that you just told me,
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  Speaker 8: told everyone that.
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  Speaker 9: You're not involved.
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  Speaker 5: It did.
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  Speaker 9: The phone records.
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  Speaker 8: Don't even show that you even talk to this guy.
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  Speaker 8: And everybody know that the the chirp, the walking boost mogus,
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  Speaker 8: the when we had the little chirp phones.
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  Speaker 9: What their next tells whatever they was back in the day.
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  Speaker 8: You can you know that's still gonna register because you're
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  Speaker 8: talking over it is. Go ahead, I'm gonna have to
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  Speaker 8: take two tilan all tonight after this.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, well on for a second, get y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Going, Okay, that's the victim of your vism's conduct and conduct,
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  Speaker 2: the victim of the fact that the judge in the case,
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  Speaker 2: allowing as much office says after he take that the
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  Speaker 2: order of the steps. Okay, they brought the guns that
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  Speaker 2: don't even match because of all for want of sin,
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  Speaker 2: the des is indicating, uh he test finds a murder weapon,
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  Speaker 2: which is a forty five. The boy found that's the
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  Speaker 2: weapon that was usually causing the the victim. But the
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  Speaker 2: decent council never comes to okay, So now mister s
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  Speaker 2: and then accuse them using a forty five murder weapons
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  Speaker 2: causing the death of the picton, when in fact that
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  Speaker 2: was not his. So now we cannot even locate the
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  Speaker 2: padistic nowhere in the database as a psistic games break,
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  Speaker 2: nor as an individual of the i'mallo county, Countess de
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  Speaker 2: bar apendic side nowhere now they each with them taking
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  Speaker 2: his money.
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  Speaker 10: But Jill sign an order for these people.
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  Speaker 2: To go to mister Sabadistan and to go and complicate
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  Speaker 2: all of mister Sabathtan's proper sty and allow of them
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  Speaker 2: to take this and have mistersan final puilty for a
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  Speaker 2: merger case that the cian know that he did not
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  Speaker 2: miss nount so mister sabbaths and then made a victim
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  Speaker 2: of a judicial clock. But he's anythiding with detective to
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  Speaker 2: row people. But that much that's what his case is
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  Speaker 2: really abounded. He's here under detective law parties for a
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  Speaker 2: conviction that he did not participate in.
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  Speaker 10: Man and the event shows it.
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  Speaker 2: He has a rush now the diffict attorney's office and
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  Speaker 2: the refusing to renee complamation is accuse him to release
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  Speaker 2: the information on time of order. For him, He's get
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: an attorney so that we can go to active force
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: an act the Botice Department to release the evidences. Attack
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on the company that was thinking of committing the ser
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: statement for he was never convicted for no good case
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: that would allow them to confiscate anything from him related.
• 24:55
  Speaker 10: To the case.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: A much so as the right now he's being made
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to pctim public traditional conspiracy man operations. So with that,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: man said, I would like to see if he would
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: be winning away that that's back and after question yes, sir,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: did you feel that you have been, to me a
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: victim of any type of and do you feel like
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: well you could have done better in your pleat them
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: to help defend you. Absolutely, sir. I mean, if I
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: can find all of this stuff and see all of this,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: why couldn't eat In fact, he we had six months
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: the judge get was six months after I to this attorney,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: after my first attorney died, and he didn't start looking
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: at my things until two weeks before my taw two
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: weeks when you told me that, and that when we
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: started listening prior to that is this is paralegal looking
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: over So that's my traw, my my name. We can't
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: follow me, but lub to the point where the whole everybody,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the dad, the judge, audience, Jeri, everybody came wood. He
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I mean mister Woods. He came down to
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: my knee. And as far as what we were going
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: about on the pieces of guns, like I said on
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the last show, they brought in that forty five that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: was out in my house, there was forty five. They
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: they didn't understand that it was excluded from the murder.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: And later on they bring in him back for the
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: guns and all these these pieces of guns. There's no barrel,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: there's no fire he can there's the far rusted and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: they just pointed that bag and they're like, I want
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: to those murder rooks. But bearing my entire saw, they
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: never meant through house.
• 27:03
  Speaker 10: All.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: They keep talking about its count in my house.
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: If they ain't got the murder.
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: You know, you know this, this.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: Sebastian, My heart, my heart goes out to you. You
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: you went't served in the when overseas and you fought
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: in the war and you come back now you fighting
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: this injustice. And I'm just sitting here and I'm listening
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: to how the railroaded you. How they actually let the
• 27:50
  Speaker 8: person that actually committed the crime probably served what about
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: three years for all years and give you a gonna
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: give you fifty five years?
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Why did I have released?
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: Where's the justice? You tell me? Either?
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: I know well, I know your your your your defense lawyer.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: He was sleep because he let too much stuff slide.
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: Because I'm just sitting here and I know I would
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: have if I was a lawyer or something that I
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: would have raised them questions like why did they destroy
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: the video camera? Why they didn't bring that in to
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: clear your name? What about the slim card? What about
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: the DNA on the woman's DNA on the victim's phone?
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: What you can't test the test? No broken pieces of gun.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: I know that.
• 28:54
  Speaker 8: And if the forty five was an exclusive from the
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: murder wrapping, then you shouldn't even be sitting in there
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: because it does. Does they have nothing to tie you
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: into this? No phone records, no DNA, no nothing.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm way in for a minute, man, for
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: my mom. I'm to wait here, just for a second.
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: Good back down.
• 29:22
  Speaker 10: If we can get any information.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: And going in the simen of the judge from the
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: father to allow him and the detective to go to
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the bank and take Lester Schabastian money, then we can
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: tie the judge and dis corruption into town because mister
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: has been convicted for a drugs and the US have
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: my mouse to take all of his money, the property
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and everything, and the judge allows him to go to
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a jury for all and be convicted by a jury
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: which was a sham, knowing that the jury was gonna
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: find him Fulty, because between the attorneys who call him, uh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: somebody else's name, you know, didn't even know that this
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: is fine. He calls fine, somebody else's name is William
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: him but like them to get away with this man.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: So my woeing is that if we combine that some
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: kind of way on how to get information from the
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: on whose times off for them to come and get
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: this information from the Bodice department on where all the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: property went through and the complicated the vehicle, then we
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: can get to the bottom of this and show that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: this is a dudicial operation. Man of the conspiracy SERMONI
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: from big people, that's for that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: And Sebastian.
• 30:44
  Speaker 10: That's right.
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: You want to you want to add to that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just just what he was saying
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: and all sent bad do them wrong. You don't trying
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to rob me convict my friend said Bryant, because I
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: stood up, he said that he didn't do it, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: it made a doctor that's to me for I mean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it was just like my first turn that I might
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: not have done it, but he wasn't looking anywhere else.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Why It's just like I said, why wasn't looking because
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he wasn't even part of my face. But I could
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to fall back after this.
• 31:37
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  Speaker 8: I have Sebastian back with me and I am hooking
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  Speaker 8: up Cornell as well. You know, every time I hear
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: someone come on here and they talk about their case,
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: their story never change. And the more I hear, the
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: more I learn, the more my stomach got upset and
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: my head just hurts.
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: And for him to be.
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: A military vet, to go away to serve his country
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: and to come back and have to fight for his
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: freedom for something that he didn't do is not fair.
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: You have a corrupt.
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: System over there in Texas.
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: Like I stated the last time, when you have three
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: thousand to nine thousand men and women that are currently
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: in the system wrongfully convicted in the state of Texas.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: Something is going on.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: And I believe that the Justice Department and whoever else
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: need to take a look into this because you shouldn't
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: have that many people over there wrongfully convicted. And right
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: now we have Sebastian, we have James Legate, Cornell, Drummond,
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: the Kendrick.
• 35:44
  Speaker 11: And Earl.
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: It's so many of them that I talked to that
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: called me throughout the day. I forget their names, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: I know their stories. Sebastian, welcome back, Cornell, welcome back.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: Let's go ahead. Uh, I'm gonna give you guys the
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: floor because I'm trying to get this headache down.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: OK. Well, mister well, I would like to go ahead
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and allow you to go him complete your story, would
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: you continue to set up situation? So yes, And so
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: here's something we in the beginning, the very fut respect
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that they go out. There was a guy fought the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: name of the picture. I can't remember his last name,
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: but he was previously Cannas's boyfriend. And upon investigation, they
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: lived to this guy and they find out that the
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: previously her pride art dead. He stays at one time
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: when they were in the argument that if he couldn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: have her, and nobody else could and he didn't kill him,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and that's what said. And so they tell this guy
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: instead of arresting him, they tell the guy to not
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: leave town.
• 37:15
  Speaker 10: But what happens.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: This guy goes out of town, not only out of town,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: but across the borders with him and another chief. It
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: busted coming back across the borders with marijuana. Okay, when
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: this happened, they never go after the guy for evening,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: like they told him to leave. You to suspect they didn't.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Can listen to the guy, they say, they put him
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: on my hand and he talks about her up and
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: he claims that he doesn't know Olie and the leaves
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: on the hand playing that he doesn't know victims, but
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I know, okay fired both of them were hanging here
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: up the button and they never admitted and it never
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: comes up.
• 38:12
  Speaker 10: Okay, So I.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Do indicated Lester Sebastian that that was other effects the
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: death of the victim and that no one could the
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: investigated the defect.
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: Is that's what you act?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: What you're saying some yes, sir h when you go
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: in the on my paperwork, it has the letter C
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: next to next to my ideas, there is a number
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: for the start of my case number and that that
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: state said I wasn't the fimary justice. That state there
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: was not one, but two others fimary cults inspired us
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: far the community. Okay, and you hit.
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: Again?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Did you bring this up? Did you bring your changing
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: about the other suspects? And did the investigate? Yes, I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: mean he was aware, he was aware of the other suspects,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and he he doesn't do anything. He just letn't hit
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: up there and talk doesn't rely to tap too much.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: I I didn't know until later on did did the
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: letter see what it's good forward next to my my
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: case number was said I was like the third, the
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: third the substrict they had already had two pri.
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: So can I answer this question?
• 39:50
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 39:50
  Speaker 9: We so just ma'am, come on, so technically you was
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: a co defendant.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: No, they never are anything. They told well theyful and
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: told coop believe and he lis and this brings in
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: the whole other person and then he then he the
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: serve and he doesn't know my co dependent and my
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: co dependent plans out the lot him, but are hanging
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: out prior to this, how my little sugar?
• 40:31
  Speaker 10: Yeah, okase, missus best.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: So really in your case, you you actually classified as.
• 40:39
  Speaker 10: The primary actor.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: But according to the investigation, they dependent. Yes. There once
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: they got the found out about men, they said my name,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and then so we said my name, petendant, doctors and
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: study coming after there wasn't He didn't care about anything else.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: He didn't care about Victor leaving. He didn't care about
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: anything else except for finally getting convicted because he was
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: still messed up from the previous case years ago. So
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: talk that he couldn't get you, you know, a murder
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: case of uh somebody else that you know you have
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: h That was yes, yes, sir, that's exactly what I'm saying. Intact,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: like I stated, when I was being in questioned in
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the lead detective got a doctors came in, and that
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was the very first thing that can't from hist There
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: wasn't any how's it going on, I'm intendant doctor. He
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: didn't say none of that. He said, hey, it's the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: best said the lost times I've seen it. I haven't
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: seen you since Brian. The thing may he said this.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Did he say anything, Yes, he tried to say he
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: told me all kinds of stuff, but he was trying
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: to say that it was because of me that my
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: friends said in jail on it that they were trying
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: to say he was innocing. And I said, you know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: it's because of me that you was found innocing. Y'all
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: were trying to say that he was kills you. That
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: was said that Brian, And it's part and part of
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: that's the time that I was telling you about about
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the first detective it was questioning me and the sergeant Montolio.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: I left out now the count word because I wasn't
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: a word that I can say them here.
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: I didn't.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: I knew that we were lying everything. So it basically
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: ain't like to I told the story and he said,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: you know what I think And I said, what's that, sir?
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: He said, I think that's your brother, fucking liars. And
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I said, you know what, I'm not talking to you
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: anymore without my parents and my lawyer president. And I
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: tried to get up to leave, and he said to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: the foot down, he ain't going nowhere. I'll tell you
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: you ain't got rights to put his hands on me,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: pushing me back. And that was when I told you, Yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the only way that I was able to leave out
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: of there that day. You're telling him that I would
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: take a lot of textatations. When I was there on
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: my own attil. I went to the sweep the farmer
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: on my own little field to try to help him
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to get one story again. And that's how it did.
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: So he put hands on you, and he told you
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: that you didn't have no right to know lawyer.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, the very thing he told me. So when I
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: found him, then that's when matter let me alone for
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit. They knew that he messed up. Now
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: later on he shows up. That's when he came as
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: an office. He tells me all kinds of okay. When
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: he's been coming afternoon, had someone ass and to the
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: point where I had to get turn. He's following me
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: at work, He's showing up, arrested me and over over
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: in traffic violation for a warrant. He's then he come
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and he has he's doing everything, and I had to
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: go get a good spring. This is back when I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: was like eight years old.
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: This is this is this is crazy. Goo ahead, come.
• 44:56
  Speaker 10: Here, question what is the to feel? What you prove
• 45:02
  Speaker 10: your answer, sir?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Is that any particular evidence that you need or you
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: feel that you need or we need to be obtained
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: in order to Is that anything that you can think
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: of that can prove your answer right now? Yes, I've
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: been trying, Like I've previously said, I've been trying to
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: get the Taste blog that's belog from everything that they
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: could so that I can call them that. And I've
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: also been trying to get it that any set seem
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: any thing that they've done from the DPS and love
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it and also the credentials for this social ballistic says
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: for Jeffrey Brown, and I've been in a sense to
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I haven't been able to do. So what what we
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: did was with the straw Goods and try to get
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: it for the point of attorney, because that's the only
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: way that they said that an attorney until the draw attorney.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: She denied me, and then so we try to go
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: up on her to the Attorney general. And since then
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I was on peace in twenty four and since then
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I have rot to the part of that her and
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I still get to hear to get any type of
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: response from this attorney general. They recuse me as I'm
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: trying to get them a whole little her position because
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: she don't want to do it because.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, So actually another question, have you made any attempt
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: to contact any news reporters back when possibly go to
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the county courthouse and act the drop court officues, I
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: was the logically possible not a man is sitting in
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: prison for a murder that he did not commit, and
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: I was allowed to be.
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: Possible that child or good has allowed for.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: The County of Pictures to steal all of his money
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: for a drug he had never.
• 47:10
  Speaker 10: Been con picted.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: After you, after you reached out to any newsy for them,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: who can go.
• 47:14
  Speaker 10: And get the answers for you and your family.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I had my best friend, he tried to reach out
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: to Plunge and they basically gave them the run around
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: like they're scared. And other than that, I that's the
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: part of anybody who knows reported and that's where I'm at.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, I still have a few more browns here.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, for sure, let y'all let me could I
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: could I jump.
• 47:49
  Speaker 8: In real quick because I just see Uh. A comic
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: came up from Tisha Allen. She said that they was
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: offering they was offering people to let them off charges
• 48:05
  Speaker 8: if they were set him up. Is she referring to you, Keisha?
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: Are you referring to Sebastian? They was letting people off
• 48:13
  Speaker 8: if they gave them if they was trying to help
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: them set up Sebastian.
• 48:25
  Speaker 9: Did you did you hear what I just said, Sebastian.
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: I was trying to ask Kesha a question because she
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: had stated that they was letting people off of charges
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: if they helped.
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: Set him up. But I want to know who is
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: the him is to him Sebastian.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were trying to do that with everybody. Everybody understand,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: and they were basically giving them bills to get up there.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I mean saying, oh, we can't fashion work or yeah
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: we her having and as far as you know, my
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: photo fended in the and the others that were so
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and people that didn't want to coopertly. I got out
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: a friend by the name of Kenry Hender, and she
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: was just like, you know, she was content and we'll
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: she hed on because she won't live to you. They
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: planned her with the biggest amount of times. That's how
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: they were. They were refused to help them. Why to
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: give me in trouble?
• 49:41
  Speaker 10: They were slamming, wow, wow.
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  Speaker 8: So you know what I was wondering because since they
• 49:51
  Speaker 8: didn't denying you an attorney to represent you, what about
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: like family members and friends start writing the the the
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: general attorney. What about if they start flooding their emails
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: and sending letters.
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: One they asking questions is why they're denying.
• 50:20
  Speaker 11: You because the gun forgive asked for me go ahead cornell?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, uh? What can be done in that area? Because
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the fact that this is a county in a city case,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: the pity case, is part of the fact that they
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: from me at the state in the city right there,
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: the county of the even crime murderant. So if anybody
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: choose to help, they were big The fign of signature
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: petition to the city of pition which is a fitting
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: mayor to find to the to the police department still
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: have all this provacy that they have taken from mister
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Seabaston and any court orders that will issued by any
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: cause allowing anybody to complicate his prophecy. We need a
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: stigmature position to bish mayor chief of police and anybody
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: in that area to be calling that set. With that
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: being said, but what we can do with that signature
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: petition and evident get out of st We can prove
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: that the judge of mister Shabathison's case is a corrupt
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: judge and she's allowing these people to take money from
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: these people and allowing the juris to convict these people
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: wrong for the from clients they did not commit. That's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: what mister Jabasan case is involved around the fact that
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: they have complicated all his money out of a bank
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: account without him still convicted for a choir and now
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: he's sitting here in the prison system with a merdy
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: case that he didn't commit outset. That's so, now if
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: we can get a fignature petitions going in the fact
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that question for any investigation about this taken any deal,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: you gets your card and we can get to the
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: bottom and poove that mister Schebastian actually know for a
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: murderchant and he did not commit.
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: Okay, so we got eight minutes. Mister Sebastian.
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: I want to give you two minutes and then we're
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: gonna shoot back over to Cornell and then we're gonna
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: wrap it up. If we need to be to come
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: back to come up with a strategy how to get
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: them to give you the proper representation so you can
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: get your paperwork so it can move forward, so you
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: can come home.
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: We're gonna do it.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: We're gonna put our heads together. We're gonna think of something.
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: Go ahead, mister Sebastian.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I want to give one more fact, and this
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: is important, diver. I saw all my attorney Joe Kilty
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: as my phote defends given police why he had canvas
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: of the woodship and play and he stayed on his hands.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: He had her. He wanted to know why she had
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: his name in her mouth. He was questioning her about that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't simpify that he had her out there for me,
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: but for no other reasons others than he wanted his mouth.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Why she dadd had his name in her mouth why
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: she was talking about him. That's important because that gives
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: a whole other voter to this murdered other than what
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: they're trying to say. And my attorney did not did
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: not attack it, and in fact, for my brother brought
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: this up to my attorneys. My attorneys said he said
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: that my parent legal would have road but it's right
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: there in my answer. He gave a hard reason of
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: why he had and as is that what should be
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: like hold of the votives and I would just like
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: to thank everybody out there just listen then, thanks you
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: all your support. Thank you would missus Johnthan for everything
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: that you're going to try to help me.
• 54:27
  Speaker 10: You got left all.
• 54:30
  Speaker 9: Hold on right quick, Sebastian go ahead for now your
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: final thoughts.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I'm thanking them for having a meal on the night, ma'am,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: and I appreciate the audience listening in uh. I would
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: like to reiterate what I was just speaking about for
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: anybody listening to this podcast tonight.
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: I would like to act for your petition.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: To sign on.
• 54:51
  Speaker 10: I'll go to ted off just for Sebastian boys.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: If you can do that, we would signed off to
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: the petition at tay be reopened or that he had
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: a new trial based upon the circumstantial evidence that he
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: has been convicted for a murdant that he did not commit,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: and that we can get a Sitneys petition action for
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: the Court of Issus and the city county officials to
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: open up an investigation and Defensivoy's case about him confiscating
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: killing and robin mister Sebast of all of his p
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: poverty without a competition. You cannot have your property complicated
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: from you without compensation. Mister Shabbast has been legally robbed
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: by a court officus, detective criminal investigators and all of
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: his money stook from him for a crime he did
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: not commit and that trial case.
• 55:41
  Speaker 10: So now with that man said, I.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Would like to thank the audience and act y'all to
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: sign on to the signature petition for mister s mister,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: and thank you very much for coming on tonight.
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: Thanks for listening in the Sabette.
• 55:54
  Speaker 8: Hold on, uh hold on for a minute. I would
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: like to thank stre for coming for coming on and
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: sharing his story. I'd like to thank my co host
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: as always Cornell, for joining in, and I would like
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: to thank the listening order for tuning in I get
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: so emotional when I hear stories like this, and especially
• 56:21
  Speaker 8: when they have evidence to back it up. You heard
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: mister Sebastian say how his defense attorney allowed things to slide.
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: I felt like he was sleep. He called him someone
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: else's name, So to me, he wasn't being representative one
• 56:48
  Speaker 8: hundred percent. They just gave He was just like shabby.
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm gonna call it what it is. He
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: was a shabby, defensive little defense attorney. If you're not
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: there is mine.
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: This is my opinion.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: If you're not there to represent them men and women
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: as their lawyer, as defense, the law attorneys then go
• 57:12
  Speaker 8: find another feel to practice.
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: In matter of fact, I don't even practice at.
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: All because this, I mean, it makes it upsets me
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: because when you go into feels like that, you go
• 57:27
  Speaker 8: in given your alle not going in there doing some
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: shabby stuff or being try to help the prosecution just
• 57:38
  Speaker 8: to get a conviction. That ain't what it's about you.
• 57:42
  Speaker 8: You got men and women that's in there wrongfully convicted,
• 57:45
  Speaker 8: and that really hurts that. Really, I mean, it bothers me.
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: We got DNA and he got DNA evidence on a
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: phone that's connected to some a fee email that they
• 58:00
  Speaker 8: didn't test his DNA is not nowhere on it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: They got broken pieces of gun that they couldn't test
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: because there's no fire PN in there. So why why
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: was that in court? The forty five is not the
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: murder victor the murder weapon.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: They got.
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: Video, They had video tape that.
• 58:24
  Speaker 8: Was destroyed that was clearly dezonerated mister Sebastian.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: The list goes on and on. Wow, I have a
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: headache this evening. He went away.
• 58:38
  Speaker 8: I can't I'm going to keep saying this over and over.
• 58:42
  Speaker 8: He went away while we was able to sleep at night,
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: rest go about our day. He's over in a whole
• 58:50
  Speaker 8: nother country, fighting on our behalf.
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: On our behalf. Then he comes back and now he
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: got a fight for his freedom.
• 59:04
  Speaker 8: I believe that we need to stand behind mister Sebastian.
• 59:12
  Speaker 8: We need to stand behind him because he put his
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: life on the line, so we can't sleep at night.
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: So whatever he asked, well, because we want to stand
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: with him. I'm gonna put up information and we need
• 59:34
  Speaker 8: to write letters and we need to sign petitions. We
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: need to do it because that is our civil due
• 59:44
  Speaker 8: diligence towards him. Because he went over there and thought
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: he served while we slept. I don't care how you
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: guys feel, but that's my opinion. You can send me
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: anything you want to send me that you don't care,
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: and my voice is shake you at least something you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: using my voice. Almost cussed right there. At least I'm
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: using my voice. Let me go on to end this life.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: I love you guys.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: Remember, drink your water and stay in your laney, especially
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 8: if you don't have nothing nice to say. I'll see
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: you next Monday. Have a good evening, love you and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: be blessed.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: Oh, all things ain't what they used to.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: We did.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: All the blue sky's all as from the Lord something.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Whoa ursay. All things ain't what they used to know.