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The Aussie Influencer Feud That's Gone International · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Drake inserts
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  Speaker 1: himself into the Anna Paul and Michaela Tester drama. Em
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  Speaker 1: Davies drops her highly anticipated wedding photos and our Friday debrief.
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  Speaker 1: But first, Amy, would you pay $ 19 for a single strawberry?
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  Speaker 1: I love strawberries, but surely no one is paying that
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  Speaker 1: much for a single one. Well, apparently Gen Zers in
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  Speaker 1: California think that this is completely reasonable because luxury grocery
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  Speaker 1: chain Air One, which is known for selling $ 20 celebrity smoothies,
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  Speaker 1: has launched a range of organic luxury strawberries from Kyoto. Now,
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  Speaker 1: they're from a Japanese retailer called Eli Amar, And the
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  Speaker 1: strawberries are sold in these individual plastic pots for $ 19
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  Speaker 1: a pop.
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  Speaker 2: God, you'd want them to taste good.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of TikTokers who are declaring that
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  Speaker 1: these are the best strawberries they've ever tasted. It seems
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  Speaker 1: like some sort of placebo effect. Is this just a
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  Speaker 1: marketing ruse to make their smoothies look not so expensive?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, LA influencer Alyssa Antocki has gone viral after sharing
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  Speaker 1: a taste test video of the $ 19 strawberry. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: video has since racked up over 15 million views.
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  Speaker 2: It's absolutely classic. Let's throw to what she said. This
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  Speaker 2: is a $ 19 strawberry from Erewhon. So we're going to
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  Speaker 2: eat it. It's from Kyoto in Japan. And apparently it's
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  Speaker 2: like the best tasting strawberry in the entire world. So
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  Speaker 2: here we go.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: That is the best strawberry. That's crazy. That is the
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  Speaker 2: best strawberry I've ever had in my life.
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  Speaker 1: Air One is a fucking genius. The way that they
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  Speaker 1: have glamorized healthy eating and made it so aspirational is
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  Speaker 1: just incredible. The fact that we are in a cost
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  Speaker 1: of living crisis, but these Gen Zers are happy to
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  Speaker 1: shell out $ 19 for one strawberry. This is fucking insane.
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  Speaker 1: And they made the strawberry look so fancy. It almost
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  Speaker 1: looked like an engagement ring because it was propped up
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  Speaker 1: on this stand. Yeah, it was like it was sitting
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  Speaker 1: on a stage ready for TikTok because this strawberry was
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  Speaker 1: made for a taste test video.
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  Speaker 2: They are very clever.
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  Speaker 1: They know marketing. They know that influencers are going to
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  Speaker 1: come in and taste test these strawberries the same way
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  Speaker 1: that they.
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  Speaker 2: Do the smoothies.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've just converted it. So it's 19 American dollars,
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  Speaker 1: which is $ 30 and 50 Australian cents. That is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I love the way that she was saying it was
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  Speaker 1: the best strawberry she's ever eaten. Well, it would want
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  Speaker 1: to be.
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  Speaker 2: For that price.
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  Speaker 1: As expected, this elicited a huge response in Alyssa's comment section.
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  Speaker 1: One follower wrote, Another said, Another TikToker wrote, While another commented,
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  Speaker 1: People can't afford eggs and then there are people spending
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  Speaker 1: $ 19 on a single strawberry.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it here.
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  Speaker 1: It's making grapes at New Year's look pretty affordable. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Alyssa's video has also led to a number of parody videos.
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  Speaker 2: Let's throw to my favorite one.
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  Speaker 4: This is a $ 19 strawberry from Erewhon. It's from Kyoto, Japan,
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  Speaker 4: and it's supposed to be like the best in the world.
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  Speaker 4: So let's eat it.
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  Speaker 1: He got the clicking of the packaging so correct. Also
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  Speaker 1: the very suggestive way that a number of these TikTokers
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  Speaker 1: are eating the fruit as well. It was absolutely spot on.
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  Speaker 1: What's pretty crazy though is there is a market for
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  Speaker 1: designer fruit. So in Tokyo, you are surrounded by $ 12
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  Speaker 1: apples when you go to the markets and there is
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  Speaker 1: a brand called Oshi, which has made a name for
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  Speaker 1: itself in Tokyo by selling designer strawberries, but they will
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  Speaker 1: only set you back $ 2 a piece, not $ 19.
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  Speaker 3: Bargain. Guys, it caught me off guard. It caught me
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  Speaker 3: so off guard.
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  Speaker 1: The Anna Paul, Michaela Testa feud is not going away.
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  Speaker 1: This week, OnlyFans creator Karina Kopf and controversial superstar Drake
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  Speaker 1: inserted themselves into the drama. Now, Amy, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people were shocked to see an international celebrity like Drake
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  Speaker 1: weighing into such a local influencer feud. Yeah, well, Drake's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot going on at the moment. He's got
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  Speaker 1: his own feuds that he's fighting. It seemed bizarre that
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  Speaker 1: this was even on his radar. So on Monday night,
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  Speaker 1: Drake wore a singlet which read, it made me feel
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  Speaker 1: broke during his concert on the Gold Coast. Michaela Testa
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  Speaker 1: was obviously ecstatic by the photo of Drake because she
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  Speaker 1: shared it on her Instagram alongside the caption, It looks
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  Speaker 1: like Drake has picked his side with this. I feel
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  Speaker 1: broke tea in tonight's show in my city laughing my
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  Speaker 1: ass off. Yeah, because just to reiterate, Drake was performing
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  Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast, which is where Mikaela and Anna
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  Speaker 1: are from. Yeah, and he ended up wearing three different
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  Speaker 1: t-shirts this week at his concerts, which referenced the drama.
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  Speaker 1: So another one of the t-shirts read Anna vs. Mikaela
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  Speaker 1: Gold Coast 2025, while another said Anna Max Winne. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is a play on term referencing the name of
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  Speaker 1: his tour, which is Anita Max Win Tour. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 1: one went over my head a little bit. I needed
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  Speaker 1: to go into the comment section to have that one
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  Speaker 1: explained to me. Well, apparently Drake's tour name is inspired
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  Speaker 1: by his love of gambling.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, lovely.
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  Speaker 1: So it loosely translates to I Need a Max Win,
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  Speaker 1: which is a popular gambling term, just if you don't
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  Speaker 1: know that, Sophie. Now, many people have labelled Drake as
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  Speaker 1: a hypocrite for getting involved in the drama due to
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  Speaker 1: the very serious allegations that Michaela has leveled at her ex-boyfriend,
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  Speaker 1: Addis Poole, that we unfortunately can't get into for legal reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Because just this month, Drake made headlines after rapper Kendrick
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  Speaker 1: Lamar accused him in a diss track of having relationships
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  Speaker 1: with underage women. Now, Drake has denied these claims, I
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  Speaker 1: have to point out. Now, you might be wondering... How
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  Speaker 1: was Drake, who is an international celebrity, all over this
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  Speaker 1: local drama? Well, it has been rumored that popular TikToker
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  Speaker 1: and sex worker Blue Eyed Kayla Jade actually told him
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  Speaker 1: to wear the I Feel Broke shirt. So the pair
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  Speaker 1: allegedly hung out together ahead of her attending one of
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  Speaker 1: his concerts. So prior to that news going public, Kayla
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  Speaker 1: posted a video saying that she was hanging out with
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  Speaker 1: a certain celebrity, but said she wasn't going to say
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  Speaker 1: too much because she didn't know if she had to
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  Speaker 1: sign an NDA. It turns out she didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: sign one. So she later shared a video the next
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  Speaker 1: day saying, get ready with me to hang out and
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  Speaker 1: go to a Drake concert. Now this has led to
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  Speaker 1: a lot of disappointment from her followers with many upset
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  Speaker 1: that she would align herself with the singer due to
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  Speaker 1: the recent allegations that have come out against him.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, one of my.
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  Speaker 1: Friends was telling me this week that he had a
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  Speaker 1: friend attend one of the Drake concerts and they got
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  Speaker 1: picked out to go to the after party. And as
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  Speaker 1: soon as they arrived, their phones were instantly taken away
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  Speaker 1: from them.
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  Speaker 2: So there's obviously a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Going on in terms of NDAs being signed. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people are a bit dubious as to what was actually
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  Speaker 1: going on between Drake and Caleb. Yeah, I mean, as
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  Speaker 1: we've touched on, she is a sex worker. So there
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  Speaker 1: was some speculation that maybe he hired her and was
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  Speaker 1: spending time with her. There is a lot more to
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  Speaker 1: this story because fans are calling for her to be
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  Speaker 1: cancelled now. So we are going to be covering this
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  Speaker 1: in more depth on Tuesday's show. Now, what we are
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  Speaker 1: going to concentrate on today is the drama between Michaela
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  Speaker 1: Testa and her former friend, Karina Kopf. Now, according to Michaela,
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  Speaker 1: it was Drake's t-shirt that sparked her former friend to
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  Speaker 1: weigh into the Michaela Anna drama. So for those who
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Karina is a 29-year-old US influencer and OnlyFans
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  Speaker 1: creator who previously dated Logan Paul. She has 6.7 million
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  Speaker 1: Instagram followers and 4.6 million on TikTok, and she reportedly
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  Speaker 1: made a whopping $ 67 million on OnlyFans since she joined
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  Speaker 1: the platform in 2021. Now, as for Karina's connection to Drake,
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  Speaker 1: the pair were linked back in 2023 and were first
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  Speaker 1: spotted together backstage at.
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  Speaker 2: One of his shows.
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  Speaker 1: However, it appears by April 2024 that things soured between
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  Speaker 1: the two, with Karina posting Kendrick Lamar's diss track to
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  Speaker 1: Drake on Instagram. Now, on Tuesday, Karina took to her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram story to accuse Michaela Testa of lying about the
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  Speaker 1: Paul family. In the scathing attack, she labeled Michaela as
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  Speaker 1: a pathological liar. She wrote, I'm done sitting here in
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  Speaker 1: silence while other people suffer over someone I have firsthand
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  Speaker 1: experience with. I mean this wholeheartedly when I say Michaela
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  Speaker 1: Tester is the most narcissistic and manipulative person I've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: Until I met her, I had never encountered a true
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  Speaker 1: pathological liar. Ask anyone who has ever come into contact
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  Speaker 1: with her and I promise you they will say the
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  Speaker 1: exact same thing. Since I met her two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: she has not had one consistent person in her life.
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  Speaker 1: Every single person has come and gone. It's always everyone
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  Speaker 1: else who is the fucked up friend. Who is the
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  Speaker 1: common denominator here? I've listened to her talk shit about
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  Speaker 1: every single friend over and over again. The only difference
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  Speaker 1: in this situation is she's doing it publicly years later
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  Speaker 1: for her own personal gain. This person craves attention. This
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  Speaker 1: is for attention. This is for views. This is a
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  Speaker 1: personal gain. This is for money.
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  Speaker 2: Jeez, she didn't hold back there. I mean, it seems a.
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  Speaker 1: She's having a go at Michaela for calling out Anna
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  Speaker 1: and she's doing the exact same thing to Michaela. It
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  Speaker 1: was only going to be a matter of time before
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  Speaker 1: someone with a public profile came out in support of Anna.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm surprised it's actually taken this long for
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  Speaker 1: someone to come out and defend her because she was
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  Speaker 1: incredibly popular across social media, but everyone seemed to just
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  Speaker 1: not want to be associated with her at all. It's
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  Speaker 1: been a pile on, hasn't it? I mean, I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of not surprised that Karina's come out because she's probably
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  Speaker 1: seen exactly what happens when you insert yourself into this drama,
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  Speaker 1: which is max views, more followers. Not that she probably
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  Speaker 1: needs it because she's already earning so much money on OnlyFans.
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  Speaker 1: But Michaela was straight on the attack. So she denied
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  Speaker 1: that she was a pathological liar and said the only
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  Speaker 1: reason Karina had gone off at her was because she
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  Speaker 1: posted about Drake. So she wrote on Instagram, we all
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  Speaker 1: know the history there.
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  Speaker 2: She then accused.
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  Speaker 1: Karina of having a parasocial relationship with Anna and Addis
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  Speaker 1: and claimed that she had paid people to try and
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  Speaker 1: get her Instagram banned in 2021. Now, the allegations kept coming.
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  Speaker 1: She said that Karina invited her to the Bahamas in
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  Speaker 1: 2022 after her breakup with Addis, only for Michaela to
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  Speaker 1: find out that Karina had been allegedly texting Addis trying
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  Speaker 1: to meet up. She also went on to say that
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  Speaker 1: she and Karina had become friends in 2023, and they
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  Speaker 1: were so close that she had confided in her about
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  Speaker 1: the allegations she's made against the Pauls, Now, by 2024,
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  Speaker 1: Michaela says Karina was hanging out at her house regularly
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  Speaker 1: and stayed with her for a month. She finished up
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  Speaker 1: by accusing Karina of victim blaming and said she's almost
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  Speaker 1: 30 and relies on young creators and internet drama to
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  Speaker 1: boost her OnlyFans and create abundance. There definitely seems to
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  Speaker 1: be quite an interesting history there between the pair, which
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  Speaker 1: seems to have been exacerbated by the fact that Drake
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  Speaker 1: showed support for Michaela. Well, the slinging match continued. So
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  Speaker 1: Karina rebutted Michaela's claims in a six-minute audio clip to
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  Speaker 1: her Instagram story. She denied trying to get Michaela's Instagram
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  Speaker 1: banned and said that she didn't have a parasocial relationship
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  Speaker 1: with the Pauls. She also claimed that there are others
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  Speaker 1: who agree with her that Michaela is a pathological liar
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  Speaker 1: and urged her followers to pay attention to Michaela's content
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  Speaker 1: because the proof is in the pudding. She also went
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  Speaker 1: on to share a screen recording of their Instagram DMs
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  Speaker 1: between each other. Gosh, it's just getting so messy. It's
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  Speaker 1: hard to be across all of these Instagram slinging matches.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Drake apparently is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in response, Michaela shared this TikTok video, which has
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  Speaker 1: had over 3.5 million views.
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  Speaker 3: Every single friend I've ever been seen with online, every
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  Speaker 3: single one has messaged me and majority of them over
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  Speaker 3: like half of them have actually posted on their own
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  Speaker 3: social medias saying the fucked up stories that they witnessed
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  Speaker 3: with the Pauls and me and things that they went
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  Speaker 3: through with them. So tell me who these people are
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  Speaker 3: that are apparently going to side with you and Anna
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  Speaker 3: and Attis because we aren't seeing them. Even our fucking
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  Speaker 3: hairdresser and the lady that sold us cats and the
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  Speaker 3: fucking real estates have my back in this situation. I've
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  Speaker 3: got every receipt and I've just filmed the podcast. God,
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  Speaker 3: it was so long and so treacherous, but I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: it's over. I just can't believe my own friends. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: she wanted to sleep without us and she's been begging
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  Speaker 3: Anna to hang out with her for the last couple
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  Speaker 3: of years. Would come out and stab me in the
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  Speaker 3: back like this. Guys, it caught me off guard. It
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  Speaker 3: caught me so off guard. And everything she's saying in
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  Speaker 3: her story, she's like, go and ask Michaela's friends.
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  Speaker 1: It really seems like Michaela was caught off guard by
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  Speaker 1: Karina's claims because in this, Michaela references her as a friend.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't seem like they had some fallout before this
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  Speaker 1: internet drama started. Well, also Michaela would have been on
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  Speaker 1: probably the biggest high of her life seeing an international
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  Speaker 1: celebrity like Drake supporting her. I mean, that being said,
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  Speaker 1: obviously not everyone loves Drake at the moment because of
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  Speaker 1: those claims.
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  Speaker 2: So It's a very messy story.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Karina then also brought up Michaela's ex-boyfriend, Kid Leroy.
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  Speaker 1: So Kid Leroy is an Aussie rapper who Michaela says
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  Speaker 1: was her first love. Now, the couple dated when Michaela
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  Speaker 1: was 19 and Kid Leroy was only 16. Now, Karina
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  Speaker 1: accused Michaela of being a hypocrite for dating someone underage
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  Speaker 1: and said it was against the law. Michaela hit back
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  Speaker 1: on her Instagram story saying,' This girl is crazy.' talking
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  Speaker 1: about a three-year age gap with someone from my past,
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  Speaker 1: which is legal. I've been sick of this rumor for
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  Speaker 1: a long time.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not true.
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  Speaker 1: And with a simple Google search, you'll be able to
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  Speaker 1: see that. I think it's a low of a low
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  Speaker 1: act to try and paint me as someone that's a
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  Speaker 1: bad person, when in reality, they are doing a lot worse.
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  Speaker 1: Michaela followed it up with a screenshot from Google, which said,
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  Speaker 1: if the sex is consensual and the other party is
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  Speaker 1: also aged 16 years or over, it is not against
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  Speaker 1: the law. This is getting so messy. I just think
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  Speaker 1: they need to stop responding to each other because it's
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  Speaker 1: just muddying the water and it's not making.
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  Speaker 2: Either of them look particularly good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, guys, I'm getting married today. Over the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: we were on Wedding Watch as popular influencer Em Davies
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  Speaker 1: tied the knot to her long-term boyfriend, Joel Gambon, in
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  Speaker 1: Western Australia. The Perth-based influencer, who has over 430,000 followers.
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  Speaker 2: kept fans on.
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  Speaker 1: Edge as she waited three days to share the highly
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  Speaker 1: anticipated photos. Despite the wait, Em actually posted in real
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  Speaker 1: time on the morning of her wedding. Yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: pretty unheard of, particularly for a bride who's in the
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  Speaker 1: public eye. But I think it was a really clever
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: strategy to build up suspense and engagement. I also think
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  Speaker 1: that Em was very aware of how emotionally invested her
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  Speaker 1: audience is in her wedding, that she wanted to make
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  Speaker 1: them feel like they were part of the day and
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  Speaker 1: joining in on the fun. So she uploaded a total
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  Speaker 1: of three TikToks on the morning of her wedding. The
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  Speaker 1: first showed her waking up saying that she couldn't believe
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  Speaker 1: that the day was here, whilst another showed her in
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  Speaker 1: her white PJs with her hair in rollers whilst her bridesmaid,
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  Speaker 1: Lily Brown, poured her a wine. Now, fans are pretty
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  Speaker 1: stoked to be a fly on the wall writing, love
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  Speaker 1: you posting in real time and declaring that Em's wedding
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: was their Olympics, whilst others said it was their royal wedding.
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  Speaker 1: Is this a bit like how a lot of men
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  Speaker 1: say that the AFL grand final is their Christmas day?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is that vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Now there was one TikTok in particular that really struck
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  Speaker 1: a chord with Em's followers and it showed her having
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  Speaker 1: a quiet moment to herself as she opened up her
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  Speaker 1: cards from her bridesmaids. Now she made sure to open
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  Speaker 1: them up before she had her makeup done because she
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  Speaker 1: knew that there was going to be a lot of tears.
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  Speaker 1: And this was a really emotional moment because Em sadly
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  Speaker 1: lost her mum to cancer a number of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it was really evident during her hen's party.
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  Speaker 1: What an amazing tight-knit group of friends she has. Like
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  Speaker 1: those girls seem to go above and beyond for her.
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  Speaker 1: And Em was reading out the videos. She was in
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  Speaker 1: a flood of tears and she said, how good are
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  Speaker 1: friends when you don't have a mom? Now this sentiment
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  Speaker 1: was echoed in her comment section with one follower writing,
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  Speaker 1: You were so loved, your mum picked out so many
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  Speaker 1: angels for you to walk through life with. Now, whilst
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: this was a very touching video, followers couldn't help but
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: notice Em's something new present as it was described by
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  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail. So it was a pearl embellished vape case.
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  Speaker 1: And it seemed like her friends had thought of every detail.
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  Speaker 1: How 2025 is this? Look, it's not something that I
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  Speaker 1: would personally want, being very anti-vape.
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  Speaker 2: Or use, yeah. Yeah, but you know... The thought was there.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I love that it was covered in pearls and a ribbon.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: For me, it would be like making sure I had
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a wedding appropriate phone case. Yeah, I mean, it must
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: have been an inside joke between the girls as well. See,
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: for your wedding, you had a Christmas-themed phone case on
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: which was red.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Look, I didn't even, I did not cross my mind.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Look, maybe I should have jumped on board as a bridesmaid.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And got it decorated for you. Yeah, where's my bedazzled
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: phone case?
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Well, this vape case was a big hit with her
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: followers because with one writing, the bedazzled vape is sending me. Congratulations,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: darling girl. Whilst another said, who knew a vape could
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: look so elegant? I feel like maybe this is an
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: untapped market. Like if anyone's listening, that's a good business
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: idea out there.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I can just imagine this factory.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: They're like, fuck, we've just started producing the bedazzled G-strings
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: from M's Hens Party. Now we need to get the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: vape cases out. I feel like so many of us
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: were on Wedding Watch over the weekend, particularly because there
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: were so many high-profile wedding guests attending. Yeah, because Happy
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Hour's Lucy Jackson and Nikki Westcott, they were, of course,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: in attendance. So they flew over from the Gold Coast
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and appeared to rent out a house with Tammy Hembrough
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: and Renee and Alicia Herbert, who I have to give
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a shout out to because they're actually triplets. So they
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: have a brother, which would be such an interesting dynamic. Yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: because everyone refers to them as the twins, but they're
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: actually triplets. It'd be such an interesting dynamic to have
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: two girls and a brother, like to see who's closer. Yeah,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it'd be so, I'm assuming the girls are the closest.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So the girls actually had a glam squad drop by
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: their accommodation, which led to a lot of confusion in
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: the press. Because a lot of gossip journos assume that
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: this must be the bride's house and that they all
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: must be bridesmaids. Yeah, it really didn't help that all
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: of the girls wore black bar Tammy. Tammy wore a
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: very dark brown dress. So they all looked like they
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: were matching. And I saw so many articles calling Tammy
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a bridesmaid. This was all over the Daily Mail. And
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Tammy ended up posting a selfie with the girls and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: wrote 2019 called Now, that was referring to the time
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: that they all used to hang out and that they
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: were a bit of it girls then. Now, one noticeable
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: absentee was Tammy's husband, Matt Sikowski, and he didn't appear
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to be in attendance. This was despite the couple recently
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: attending one of his friend's weddings over Valentine's Day. At first,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe Em didn't include everyone's partners, but a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: super sleuth did get in touch with us saying that
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: they had a screenshot showing Matt Sikowski's name. on M's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: seating plan. Now this photo has since made its way online.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And the thing that stuck out to me was that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Matt's last name was spelled incorrectly. So it was spelled Zabkowski.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: With a B.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Whoops. Now one follower wrote, clearly they dislike him if
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they're spelling his name wrong. I mean, it is quite
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: a complicated name to spell. I feel sorry for M
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: because I made my own wedding sign And I know
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: the pressure of trying to get everyone's spelling correct. Well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of people noticed as well that Tammy's name
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: was just Tammy Hembrough on there, even though she has
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: taken Zukowski as her official name.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Or Zubkowski. Zubkowski.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: We ended up sharing a photo of the wedding sign
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: on our Instagram story. And Matt sadly wrote in saying
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that one of his family members was rushed to surgery.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: So that is why he flew to Melbourne to be
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: with them and wasn't at the wedding. He has also
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: asked for privacy on that matter. So I felt quite
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: sorry for him because a lot of people were jumping
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: to conclusions that maybe the.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Couple had had a fight. So we just wanted to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: clear that one up for him.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Now, a bit of a fun fact while we're on
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the topic of Tammy and Matt is that Em and
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Joel hired the same social media content creator as them.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So the creator in question is Olivia Burrows Sutherland, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: she has over 103,000 followers on TikTok. And she is
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: just the social media content creator at the moment, especially
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: for these high profile weddings. Yeah, and I love it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: because she created a Get Ready With Me video ahead
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: of the wedding, explaining it's her first time in WA
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and showing us what she wears for a wedding like that.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Because for a lot of those creators, it's hard. Like
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: we've shot wedding videos before because you're a videographer, Amy.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I was there merely assisting. But it's a long day
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on your feet and you want to look nice. but
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you don't want to look distracting at the same time
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: and still be able to do all of the physical
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: labor of filming. I thought the same thing. I was like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: she looks really good what she's wearing. Like she looked smart,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: but fashionable. I mean, there'd be a lot of pressure
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to show up to a wedding like that with so.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Many influences in attendance.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Now, despite the fact that Anne was posting in real
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: time on the morning of her wedding, we didn't get
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: to see professional photos for three very long days. And
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: many fans predicted that maybe there was such a big
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: wait because Em might have had a similar deal as
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Tammy did with Vogue. That wasn't actually the case. It
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: seemed like the couple were soaking in all of the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: love and maybe they were waiting still to get their
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: photos back. Because I know not all wedding photographers get
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you the photo back the day after.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's some editing involved.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or you get a handful and you might not
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: particularly like all the photos that they've sent through. And
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on Em to share.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I saw so many TikTok videos. of people saying that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they had eagerly been waiting.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to one of those. I need
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: to see the reception.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I need to see Lala.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: I need to see Lily.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Joel, what is going on? Sort it out, girl. We
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: are dying over here.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: There was certainly a lot of hype and Em's new husband, Joel,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: had to call for calm. So he shared a photo
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of himself in his suit on Instagram because, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: let's be honest, no one really cares what the groom
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: is wearing. That wasn't ruining anything. And he wrote, what
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a weekend. We will share with everyone when we're ready
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and slowly get back to all of your lovely messages.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Our daughter comes first. We are so in love with
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: each other, everyone who is in attendance, and we feel
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: all the love from the messages you've shared with us online.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I can see why there was so much interest online
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: because Em initially sharing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Stuff on TikTok the morning of, it really whets your appetite.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, right, okay, now I'm ready for the photos.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: For the next day. Yeah.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Well, Em also had to remind her friends and family
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: not to post photos of her dress. So she shared
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: on Instagram, just a reminder to anyone who celebrated with
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: us yesterday. Please hold off on posting until I do.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: It's sad that you have to remind people of that.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: But honestly, every influencer wedding, there seems to be some
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: dickhead who ends up sharing some grainy photo or even
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: just friends weddings. I've noticed there's not a lot of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: etiquette that goes on. It's always like a grandparent or
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a great aunt that shares the worst fucking photo as well.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: And you're like, I don't want that to be the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: first one. It seemed like someone maybe did share something
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and there was a bit of a dirty delete happen. Luckily,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: that seemed to happen quite quickly. When you reflect as well,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: this wedding would have been absolutely huge in WA. And
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it's nice to see that no media ruined her dress
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: reveal because like they did with Tammy Hembrough. Yeah. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: think the difference is that M Davies, she might be
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: big in the influencer space, like the girl world, but
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's as big a celebrity to the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: likes of the Daily Mail or the everyday person doesn't
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: seem to know who she is as much as say
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: someone like Tammy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: She seems to be the people's princess in a way
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: because she's relatable.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, Well, that's been a big change, though.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's only since she really gave birth to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: her daughter that I think a lot of people have
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: seen this other side to M. Davies. Well, she seems
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: to be one of the most beloved influencers at the moment. Now,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: as we predicted, the photos, of course, dropped on Tuesday
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: night after our episode went to air. Now, she shared
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a collection of photos from the day and wrote, Mr.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and Mrs. Gambon, the best weekend, full of love. We
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: have no words. Here's a sneak peek because I don't
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: think I can keep you guys waiting any longer. She
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: looked stunning in all of the photos.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: They were beautiful. She looked so elegant. The first photo.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Showed Em and Joel during their ceremony at Fraser Gallop Estate,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: and she wore a strapless gown with a corset bodice
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and a flared skirt, as well as a long veil
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: with a lace trim. The dress actually was quite similar
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to Tammy's, apart from the fact that it was white
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and not pink. And a lot of people drew comparison
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: between her veil and also Nikki Westcott's veil.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: She looked really elegant.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's what I took from her. I thought Wow, you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: look really classy. You look beautiful. It wasn't like over
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the top, but it was just really timeless. And the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: thing is, she.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Is very fashion forward. She had her own fashion line.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: There was so much controversy because she dared to wear
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a white G-string to a hen's party. So I think
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of people thought maybe her dress was going
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to be quite revealing or out there. I was expecting
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: something more daring, but we haven't seen the other dresses yet.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I think we've got two other dresses which she hasn't
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: revealed yet. I think it's one of the best influencer
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: dresses we've seen. Yeah, well, the dress was from New
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: York designer Danielle Frankel, which was a really nice touch
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: because they got engaged in New York.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Confusion because people seemed to think it was a Vera
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Wang dress when she clearly outlined that it was from
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: this designer. Yeah, well, the Blue Tick Brigade, as usual,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: were out in force to congratulate Em.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Tammy wrote, best day, so happy for you.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Whilst Ruby Tuesday Matthews said, oh, sweet baby Jesus. And
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Sabby Robertson wrote, amazing, congratulations, beautiful. Now following the wedding,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Em has since changed her name on Instagram. So in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: her Instagram bio, it reads Emily Gambon, but her handle
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: still remains Em Davies. Yeah. I understand why influencers do
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: that because it'd be really difficult for people to be
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: able to search you. They're so used to your maiden name.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough did the same thing. She has Zakowski in
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: her bio.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Now we have to talk about the.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Reunion between Lily Brown and Lucy and Nikki. So after
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Em's hen's party, there was a lot of speculation around
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: how the three all navigated that weekend away together because
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they have had a very publicized feud. I think they're
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: all getting sick of talking about it. Yeah, because on
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the Happy Hour podcast, Lucy and Nikki said that it
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: was all very civil at the hen's party. And it
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: was nowhere near as dramatic as everyone thought it was
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: going to be. It did sound as though they were
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: just tolerating each other, though, and they were pleasant for
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Em's sake. It didn't sound like they were friends by
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: any means. And I think that's why it was so
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: special to see a group photo pop up where Em
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: was in the middle in her wedding pajamas and she
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: was surrounded by Lily, Lucy and Nikki. And they all
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: had their arms around each other and looked like they
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: were in conversation.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: They were laughing. They were smiling.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: They looked on good terms and as though they were
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: trying to make a real effort with each other.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And Emery posted the photo and wrote, oh, how this
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: makes me so happy. I really feel like weddings bring
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: out the best in people, particularly.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: And the worst.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Well, and the worst. But, you know, when you're there
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and I mean, I kept seeing Emery sharing a lot
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: of Instagram stories of her friends basically recapping the wedding,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: saying how electric the feeling was in the room and
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: that it was such a beautiful vibe.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: There was so much love.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I think particularly with Em losing her mum, maybe people
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: put all of their differences aside and thought, let's just
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: be there for her. This argument is stupid.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think they've all grown up as well.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. This is Amy coming to you from the
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: future to let you know that just after editing up
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: this podcast last night, Em Davies dropped some links to
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: her Vogue photo shoot. So we just want to acknowledge
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: we are aware of the stunning photos that came out
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of Em and Joel's wedding. but we weren't able to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: talk about them in today's podcast. Perhaps we'll touch on
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: it on Tuesday. Let's get into our Friday debrief. Now,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I have realized this week, Sophie, how heavily pregnant I
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: must look because during a lot of shoots we've had
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: with our business, I have noticed so many people rushing
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to my aid.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Well, so they should.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're 32 weeks pregnant and I've been feeling
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: guilty because With Hula Media, you do all of our
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: videography work. I am not trained in filming, but I'm
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: there to assist you.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I produce.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I ask all the questions and I help where I can.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: But we have had to buy a buggy to carry
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: all of our camera equipment in because it looks wrong
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to pregnant women struggling with this equipment. Well, I remember
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: having this conversation when you became pregnant. I was like, fuck,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it's going to be super awkward with the business. when
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: we both rock up to shoots and we both look
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: so pregnant because people are going to be like, what
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is going on here? Well, I think I'm hiding it
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: okay at the moment, but it is nice to see
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: people actually lending you a hand though, because I know
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: we were out on a work site yesterday and you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: were on the ground, sitting on the dirt, getting your
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: stabilizer together. And This man's like, do you need me
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to help you up? I tried to get up and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: because of my stomach, I am thrown off center slightly.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: And I have been relying on you to help give
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: me a hand. This man, because I was wearing boots
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: with a heel on it. I think he was like,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: holy fuck, she is going to absolutely stack it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And he ran over.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I also had a man at the Thai takeaway shop
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: who offered to take my box of takeaway to the car,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: which I thought was so sweet. I haven't had any
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: assistance yet. I haven't had anyone comment yet saying congratulations
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in the store or anything like when I'm shopping or
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: anything like that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: You don't really look pregnant though.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've really been feeling it the past couple of days.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a moment where your stomach just
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: pops and I feel like that that is happening right now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Well, you're still at that phase.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Where it would be rude for somebody to bring it up.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Like they might be a bit on the fence about
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: what's going on. Now, I wanted to chat about a
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: documentary I have become obsessed with this week and it
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: is the American Manhunt OJ Simpson. I have been telling
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: anyone and everyone about this documentary. I've watched so many
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: OJ Simpson series before. whether they're like dramas or they're documentaries.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I'm so interested in the case. And this documentary featured
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: new interviews with a lot of key figures from the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: investigation and also the trial. And what I found super
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: interesting was that OJ's former manager, Mike Gilbert, was interviewed
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: and he admitted that after the trial and, you know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: there was a few years after, he finally got the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: courage to ask OJ about what actually happened that night.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So this was, OJ was having to sell his house
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: that he lived in with Nicole. And I think apparently
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it was a very emotional night. And OJ said, well,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: what do you think happened? And he said, he didn't
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: want to bullshit him. So he said, I think you
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: didn't mate. And OJ replied something along the lines of, well,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: if Nicole didn't answer the door with that knife, she'd
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: still be alive today. Which was just so telling. Like
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: my husband and I were just so appalled watching it
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and so angry that the defense case was able to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: make it about race instead of being about the victims.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, you watch that back and you think, how
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the hell did he not go to jail?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he clearly did it.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And I think what makes this documentary so interesting is
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: this is one of the first documentaries that's been released
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: since OJ Simpson's death. And obviously, defamation laws don't apply
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to the dead. So they're going there with this documentary. Well,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I also think that there were a lot of friends
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in OJ's life who felt uncomfortable to speak out against
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: him when he was still alive, even though maybe they'd
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: parted ways. I think that they didn't want the wrath
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: of him afterwards. Well, I think that's all we've got
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: time for today. Thank you so much for listening to
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  Speaker 1: another episode of Outspoken. Now, anyone who has listened to
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  Speaker 1: our subs episode, I just want to say, hashtag free
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  Speaker 1: my carpet cleaner. I've still not received it. And I
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  Speaker 1: do want to point out that I could barely get
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  Speaker 1: a word in during that. It was very difficult to
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  Speaker 1: edit up that segment. Look, I am so overhearing about
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  Speaker 1: this carpet cleaner. So for those who don't know, we
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  Speaker 1: had an Am I the Arsehole segment in our subs episode,
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  Speaker 1: and Kate and Sophie decided to bring quite a personal
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  Speaker 1: issue over to the subs. It was basically about Kate
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  Speaker 1: not returning Sophie's carpet cleaner. One of Kate's excuses was
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  Speaker 1: that Sophie no longer has carpet in her house, so
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  Speaker 1: that means that she should get to keep the carpet cleaner.
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  Speaker 2: A pretty shit defence.
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  Speaker 1: I thought. Oh, I mean, her nose was growing by
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  Speaker 1: the second during that podcast. I'm going to call her Pinocchio. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's not here to defend herself. Well, she claimed that
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  Speaker 1: she has not been using it. I know from a
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  Speaker 1: good source she's been using it nonstop and she's relying
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  Speaker 1: on this carpet cleaner anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Is the source her dogs?
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, it was quite a funny debate in there. But
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  Speaker 1: I was absolutely shocked to my core to see someone
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  Speaker 1: in our Facebook community siding with Kate. So if anyone
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  Speaker 1: is Team Sophie and thinks, and praise for the release
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  Speaker 1: of My Carpet Cleaner. Could you please let me know?
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  Speaker 2: We should put up a poll on the Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we will. I actually sent a screenshot to my
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  Speaker 1: husband being like, Can you believe that someone is on
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  Speaker 1: Kate's side? Like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: It was a very polite message. A very lovely listener.
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  Speaker 1: I'm no offence to this listener. But again, there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of deception during that podcast recording. Kate was
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  Speaker 1: pulling on a lot of heartstrings. She kept mentioning that
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  Speaker 1: she has an eight-month-old son. I think that was getting
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  Speaker 1: a lot of sympathy. I think I would have got
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  Speaker 1: drunk if I took a shot. Every time she said
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  Speaker 1: she had an eight-month-old child, I had to cut out
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  Speaker 1: a few mentions of it.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. Well, can I set the scene?
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  Speaker 1: Because I actually had to leave halfway through this recording
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  Speaker 1: because I had something to do.
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  Speaker 2: With work on.
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  Speaker 1: You guys were like in my house screaming over this
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  Speaker 1: carpet cleaner. And I was like, no one wants to
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  Speaker 1: hear it. Like, so the conversation was heavily edited. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I had to cut out so much. And it was
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  Speaker 1: so frustrating because anytime Amy and I would make a
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  Speaker 1: point about the carpet cleaner, Kate would yell over. So
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  Speaker 1: it ended up being her sob story. When in actual fact,
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  Speaker 1: She had the carpet cleaner at 10 weeks pregnant. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone wants to hear about it anymore.
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  Speaker 1: She refuses to let me come and pick it up.
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  Speaker 1: I've asked so many times saying, I'll pick it up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to pick it up. This is becoming like
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  Speaker 1: the Michaela and Karina fight where the water is being
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  Speaker 1: completely muddied here. Shall I slam her on my Instagram story?
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  Speaker 1: Should I put out a few fucking comments about it? Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you are interested in hearing that fight, which probably
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  Speaker 1: after this description no one is, make sure you check
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  Speaker 1: out our subs episode. And if you haven't already and
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  Speaker 1: on the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
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  Speaker 1: Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to elders past and present.