Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 276: Tabula Rasa (SG-A 4.06)
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- 0:25Speaker 1: Get in the Gate's episode two hundred and seventy six,
- 0:28Speaker 1: Stock and some stargates at Atlantis. Mitch and Maddie. Here,
- 0:32Speaker 1: what's up now, you Galwyn guys. I mean we just
- 0:37Speaker 1: we're just still on the comedown from the from the
- 0:39Speaker 1: Milestone episode that was two hundred and seventy five purely
- 0:42Speaker 1: a number only because you know, Traveler was it was fine.
- 0:46Speaker 2: I mean, you're still on the comedown for him.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Don't do that. I sounded like a pig, and I
- 0:51Speaker 1: you know, I had to edit the pod and I'm
- 0:53Speaker 1: posting it and you know, I mean, we're all gonna
- 0:55Speaker 1: be worried about what we put out on it, and
- 0:58Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, Hay I said enough times,
- 1:01Speaker 1: I'm aware of what a pig I sound like.
- 1:03Speaker 2: And I tried to clear that up. That's not even
- 1:05Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. I mean, you clearly haven't let
- 1:07Speaker 2: you lesson from Wonder Woman when you try to get
- 1:09Speaker 2: when someone tried to cancel you at a at a
- 1:11Speaker 2: movie event.
- 1:11Speaker 1: I have, I certainly haven't forgotten that brought back to
- 1:15Speaker 1: my well. I had to remind myself of it the
- 1:17Speaker 1: other day because over and now get into geek chats
- 1:21Speaker 1: we've got Reese, who's a not our Reese from Getting
- 1:25Speaker 1: to Gates. We got now same spelling though.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeah yeah yeah, but she's she's.
- 1:30Speaker 1: I mean, Reese is a girl's name as well. It's
- 1:32Speaker 1: usually the double starts Brendan. He'sn't sayned that for thirty
- 1:37Speaker 1: eight years. But yeah, Reese is there. And she's got
- 1:41Speaker 1: a mad thing for Sebastian Stan. I don't know whether
- 1:45Speaker 1: it's just a Bucky Barnes thing from the from the
- 1:47Speaker 1: MCU or it's a Sebastian Stan thing. And she's just
- 1:50Speaker 1: got one of those like college looking T shirts. And
- 1:53Speaker 1: I said, oh, you've got to wear that to the
- 1:54Speaker 1: premiere of Thunderbolts. Make sure you wear that. She's I
- 1:57Speaker 1: don't know if I could wear that. Maybe I should
- 1:59Speaker 1: get you one. I'm like, well, don't get me a
- 2:01Speaker 1: Bucky one, like maybe a Florence Pew one. You know,
- 2:03Speaker 1: I'll wear that, and she re back, She's like, oh
- 2:05Speaker 1: really really like Florence Pew's your thing. Oh, I wouldn't
- 2:09Speaker 1: have guessed that from you. And I'm like, well, no,
- 2:10Speaker 1: not on a piggery level, Like I just put her
- 2:13Speaker 1: on there because I'm like insanely attracted to her. I like,
- 2:16Speaker 1: I saw her in one film fighting with my family
- 2:19Speaker 1: a bunch of years ago, and I think I'll watch
- 2:20Speaker 1: this girl and anything. She's incredible and she is great
- 2:23Speaker 1: in everything that she does, and I do find her attractive.
- 2:26Speaker 1: But like like from last week, Laren Laren, Laren, Lauren
- 2:33Speaker 1: Laren didn't check my notes at all. Well done that, Laren.
- 2:37Speaker 1: You know it wasn't necessarily that, you know, sexy in
- 2:40Speaker 1: a sexual way, just the sexy because of the confidence
- 2:43Speaker 1: and because.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Of the the aura, and I feel sure.
- 2:46Speaker 1: And I guess yes, the same could be said for
- 2:48Speaker 1: Florence Pew as well.
- 2:49Speaker 3: Is that?
- 2:50Speaker 1: But you know she the way she carries herself in
- 2:52Speaker 1: as even in you're laying them below her, she walks around.
- 2:54Speaker 1: She is full confidence, she is full style. But yeah,
- 2:59Speaker 1: that's hell.
- 3:00Speaker 2: To balance it out for you too, I'll request a
- 3:02Speaker 2: Julie Louis Dreyfus montage shirt like collar shirt.
- 3:06Speaker 1: That would be great, just because I love I love
- 3:08Speaker 1: Julia lu Yeah. Yeah, he gets some veep in there,
- 3:10Speaker 1: gets the lamee. Yeah, yeah, fantastic.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Not so much New Adventures of Old Christine. It's no,
- 3:15Speaker 2: I kind of fell off there a bit.
- 3:17Speaker 1: Yeah, I never got on there.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Yeah I did a couple well it had it had
- 3:20Speaker 2: Colson in it to bring it all back around. Yeah,
- 3:23Speaker 2: that was pre emcu. So yeah, we digress.
- 3:25Speaker 1: We are here to talk about Stargate Atlantis, and I
- 3:28Speaker 1: don't know necessarily that there is any piggory for me
- 3:30Speaker 1: to discuss in this one. I'm sure Maddie will find
- 3:33Speaker 1: an area that I'm interested in. But we are talking
- 3:37Speaker 1: Tabula rasa.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Oh come on, mate, I did it for you.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Oh come on, Tabula rasa, Tabula rasa, Tabula rassa. Okay,
- 3:44Speaker 1: so did get it right? Yeah, okay, I was just
- 3:46Speaker 1: doing the legwork for you. Instead of me saying it.
- 3:48Speaker 1: You could just fire off Allison, Hannah get from Buffy.
- 3:51Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:51Speaker 2: I didn't want to be this the whole any mkia
- 3:53Speaker 2: mkaida thing again that I had the fellow on my
- 3:56Speaker 2: on my shoulder.
- 3:57Speaker 1: I haven't had a look at who's writing and directly
- 3:58Speaker 1: this episode. It might have to be again, all right.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Tabula ras and Tabula ras and Tabula rasa, Episode five,
- 4:04Speaker 1: Season four plant samples. Geez, what an exciting way to
- 4:07Speaker 1: kick off a synopsis. Plant samples brought back from a
- 4:10Speaker 1: new planet introduce an amneasia inducing virus that strikes everyone
- 4:14Speaker 1: in the city except Taylor and Ronan. Written by Alan
- 4:19Speaker 1: McCullough and directed by Martin Wood.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I feel like there's a bit of a giveaway, like
- 4:23Speaker 2: to the whole plot, that that Ronan and Taylor are
- 4:26Speaker 2: in you.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they needed that in the In
- 4:28Speaker 1: the synopsis, I get it for the most part, especially
- 4:31Speaker 1: around the time. If you're buying it on DVD, good
- 4:33Speaker 1: chance you've actually seen it, and so it's not necessarily
- 4:36Speaker 1: a spoiler. It's just there to remind you of what
- 4:37Speaker 1: you're watching.
- 4:38Speaker 2: But well, yeah, given that in the auto commentary for
- 4:40Speaker 2: I think it's this episode or the next episode, Alan
- 4:43Speaker 2: mccollor just drops a massive spoiler for what happens at
- 4:45Speaker 2: the end of this season into season five, just huge.
- 4:49Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because obviously blah blah blah happened.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Oh shit. Yeah, Well, you can't say that to me
- 4:52Speaker 1: because this is my first time watching Atlanta.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm glad that I'm the one listening
- 4:55Speaker 2: to the audio commentaries and you're not.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely the only thing stuff in me from
- 4:59Speaker 1: doing Extra World. I get off pretty well in this podcast.
- 5:09Speaker 2: A great guy love match. Okay, what do you think?
- 5:13Speaker 1: Good question there, Daniel. With an episode like this, I
- 5:18Speaker 1: can't help but think about Brendan now, because he made
- 5:21Speaker 1: a real point. I forget which episode in particular, it
- 5:24Speaker 1: was definitely something on Stargate. I forget even whether it
- 5:26Speaker 1: was Nesty one or Atlanti. It's been him saying he
- 5:28Speaker 1: hates episodes of TV or movies that start with a
- 5:32Speaker 1: scene and then go seven days earlier, twelve hours before
- 5:37Speaker 1: or something. Because he said that, to him, it feels
- 5:40Speaker 1: like a lazy way to write in some exciting stuff
- 5:43Speaker 1: at the start, to build up any kind of tension
- 5:45Speaker 1: or you know, to you know, it's almost like a
- 5:49Speaker 1: clickbait sort of thing, like, yeahustraight in and that it
- 5:52Speaker 1: almost says, yeah, the beginning of the actual story, chronologically speaking,
- 5:57Speaker 1: is not exciting enough for you to get grabbed in
- 6:00Speaker 1: on what we're trying to do for.
- 6:02Speaker 2: The back in the day, when there was the potential
- 6:04Speaker 2: of watching that the opening credits wrong and you're flicking
- 6:07Speaker 2: off to a different channel. Yeah, true, yes, exactly right.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about that, but yeah, definitely, definitely that,
- 6:12Speaker 1: especially if you're coming in off the back of an
- 6:14Speaker 1: exciting show another show where they're like, no, we want
- 6:16Speaker 1: to carry over audience. They still do that on Free
- 6:18Speaker 1: to Wear. Jesus, I've suffered that through the other night
- 6:20Speaker 1: one of the few times in watching Free toware, and
- 6:22Speaker 1: it's still fifteen minutes of Australian Idol before the actual
- 6:25Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to watch. Yeah, wow, God damn it.
- 6:27Speaker 1: That's what we needed, those recording devices where we get
- 6:30Speaker 1: to add an extra fifteen minutes on just in case.
- 6:32Speaker 4: Well.
- 6:33Speaker 2: The problem now is, obviously, is that all the streaming
- 6:35Speaker 2: services feel like freeway because they're putting ads in there now,
- 6:37Speaker 2: so that conversation.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Prime we haven't yet said that you got great people,
- 6:42Speaker 1: because you've got MGM lock behind a wall where we
- 6:45Speaker 1: have to pay extra on top of the extra that
- 6:47Speaker 1: we already have to pay for if we don't want
- 6:49Speaker 1: to watch the account that we were paying extra for.
- 6:53Speaker 1: So we didn't get ads when you first brought ads in,
- 6:56Speaker 1: only the now put ads in.
- 6:57Speaker 2: And my Netflix is doing the same thing now they've
- 7:00Speaker 2: ads in. And how's this if you pause something where
- 7:03Speaker 2: you're watching it on Netflix, like you get a text
- 7:05Speaker 2: message and you pause your Netflix.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Oh you don't just like keep watching like most Netflix audiences.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Absolutely not, No, you're still doing it the right way.
- 7:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I pause it, check my phone to do my thing.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Look back, the screen has minimized in the corner and
- 7:17Speaker 2: there's a flight center AD. Bullshit, it's a flight center
- 7:20Speaker 2: ad with while I'm paused that I'll take a photo
- 7:25Speaker 2: next time it happens.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Holy No, I'm like top of echelon of Netflix. No,
- 7:33Speaker 1: but I am like, you know, you've.
- 7:34Speaker 2: Got how many kids, so you need how many screens?
- 7:36Speaker 1: A lot of kids, a lot of screens. And my
- 7:39Speaker 1: in law, well they've got the separate account, my in
- 7:41Speaker 1: laws because they're into state, So I pay the extra
- 7:43Speaker 1: eight bucks for them to be on our account, but
- 7:44Speaker 1: they we can't access it from our house, so it's
- 7:47Speaker 1: very very separate. But at the same time, I think
- 7:49Speaker 1: maybe the extras that I'm paying is probably just for
- 7:52Speaker 1: like what four K and I'm beginning to do I
- 7:54Speaker 1: really need four K.
- 7:54Speaker 2: I couldn't just fight. I send your picture the other day.
- 7:56Speaker 2: It's a total off shot from where we're going.
- 7:58Speaker 1: But we are talking about like we're just about DVDs,
- 8:00Speaker 1: and that would be a good like, yeah, good segue
- 8:02Speaker 1: into what you're about to say, because you still love DVDs,
- 8:04Speaker 1: you will never go to Blu rays. DVDs are fine.
- 8:06Speaker 1: From you, I'm like, there's seven twenty to ten eighty.
- 8:09Speaker 1: You can tell the difference, but you will be like, yeah,
- 8:10Speaker 1: but my eyesight's that bung. It doesn't really make anything.
- 8:12Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly yeah, And it's like even when I'm
- 8:14Speaker 2: watching Star Trek on Netflix and I get close to
- 8:16Speaker 2: my TV screen, it still has that kind of weird
- 8:18Speaker 2: resolution anyway, because they were never upgraded to ten eighty anyway.
- 8:22Speaker 2: But I was paying like ten bucks or ten ninety
- 8:25Speaker 2: nine for my Netflix for basic. They called it, Well,
- 8:28Speaker 2: that doesn't exist anymore. We're gonna put you on standard,
- 8:31Speaker 2: which is only, which is only seven nine is cheap,
- 8:33Speaker 2: but yeap seven ninety nine. But you get ads, you
- 8:37Speaker 2: still get the four K, you still get all the resolution,
- 8:38Speaker 2: you still get two screens. The next option up for me.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Oh you still get okay, good call, Yeah, okay.
- 8:43Speaker 2: The next option up for me is everything is the
- 8:45Speaker 2: same same amount of screens what you just had. Yes,
- 8:47Speaker 2: still two screens and no ads nineteen ninety nine a month?
- 8:52Speaker 1: Oh good? More than double?
- 8:54Speaker 2: Yeah, more than double?
- 8:55Speaker 1: Oh great?
- 8:55Speaker 2: More than double to not have ads.
- 8:57Speaker 1: And look, I get it. Someone out there's going guys,
- 8:59Speaker 1: it's nine was a month and I'm like, yes, can
- 9:02Speaker 1: we find that probably we wish come in there. You
- 9:04Speaker 1: brought me a burrito that probably costs about that eight
- 9:07Speaker 1: bucks on again. Sure that's that's your ads for the
- 9:09Speaker 1: next pity he could have.
- 9:10Speaker 2: Sort of just why when we just all had one
- 9:11Speaker 2: streaming service, when you've got to pay for five or
- 9:13Speaker 2: six different streaming services that are all doing it yet.
- 9:18Speaker 1: As usually sat down with my wife last night and
- 9:22Speaker 1: we did a little family budget because it's like, you
- 9:25Speaker 1: know where you know, she's in a great job.
- 9:26Speaker 2: I'm in a great job. We're making money.
- 9:28Speaker 1: And yes we've got four kids, we've got the same mode.
- 9:33Speaker 1: You needed more TVs to cotteract that sure exactly, So
- 9:36Speaker 1: we could have really worked this in a different in
- 9:38Speaker 1: a different order. It's like, why are we not? Why
- 9:40Speaker 1: are we not saving money? We don't go out, we
- 9:43Speaker 1: don't go on holidays, we don't none of we don't drink.
- 9:46Speaker 1: We're not going out there like buying crazy purchases nothing.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Why are we not saving money? And I dreaded the
- 9:52Speaker 1: moment that we got to all the free because we've
- 9:56Speaker 1: got everything. Yeah, the lovely people at stand former great
- 10:00Speaker 1: people that did have Stargate on there for free, is
- 10:03Speaker 1: on there for free. I'm on a I'm on a
- 10:06Speaker 1: media account. I do get stampede because I'm on a
- 10:10Speaker 1: media outlet. So we talk about stand content, sure, but
- 10:13Speaker 1: everything else I'm paying for. I've got a few leeches
- 10:16Speaker 1: here and there on different accounts.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Me.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Mate, Hey, I got you, except when I go to
- 10:24Speaker 1: watch something and I get logged out, but leaches on
- 10:28Speaker 1: a second who else has my account? And We're sitting
- 10:31Speaker 1: there adding it all up, and I'm like, oh god,
- 10:33Speaker 1: oh god. And you would hate ko sports. Sports. Yeah, sports,
- 10:37Speaker 1: you either have the cheaper option for one screen, more
- 10:41Speaker 1: expensive option only two screens. Still, and you're paying nearly
- 10:44Speaker 1: twice as much. And know how much that is a month, buddy, having.
- 10:47Speaker 2: You just have a guess tea bucks forty dollars?
- 10:50Speaker 1: Oh my god, you know how much the cheapest one
- 10:54Speaker 1: is for one screen? Twenty five?
- 10:56Speaker 2: Is it most of your sport that you watch on
- 10:57Speaker 2: free to wear any No, it's not anymore?
- 10:59Speaker 1: No there, No, it never has though there are eight
- 11:02Speaker 1: games has been on Yeah, No, it's been on free
- 11:06Speaker 1: tow AAR, but the majority of it has never been.
- 11:08Speaker 1: There are eight games a weekend and you get three
- 11:10Speaker 1: on free to air.
- 11:12Speaker 2: That is some bull shit.
- 11:15Speaker 1: Now over in Binge there we're getting back to this guy.
- 11:18Speaker 1: So it's all got to do some stargat.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I mean, the episode's about forgetting who you are and
- 11:23Speaker 2: we've just really forgot this episode exists.
- 11:25Speaker 1: And we're almost doing it add for good streaming services
- 11:28Speaker 1: versus bad one. But you know, the lovely people at Binge,
- 11:31Speaker 1: they've now got four games a week they're also they're KO,
- 11:35Speaker 1: but you pay for K for all eight Binge include
- 11:38Speaker 1: four games, but they just they get to pick which game.
- 11:40Speaker 1: It's not like you get to pick to watch four games.
- 11:41Speaker 1: So you know, we're having to really limit our budget
- 11:44Speaker 1: because I would love to be able to watch streaming.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I would love to be able to watch Stargate streaming.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Sorry should I say MGM one Prime? But I'm already
- 11:50Speaker 1: paying for Prime, which is great, good yearly amount. You
- 11:53Speaker 1: get free delivery once you have your membership, that's all fine,
- 11:57Speaker 1: but I'm not paying extra to watch a show that
- 11:59Speaker 1: I do on DVD and I like getting the Oh
- 12:02Speaker 1: there's Lincoln up on the TV the show. Here we go.
- 12:07Speaker 2: He's a little more than your friend.
- 12:08Speaker 1: But okay, he's a friend of the show.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Brother.
- 12:10Speaker 1: You know, he's coming up on our morning show. Sorry,
- 12:12Speaker 1: that's just that's happening live, So obviously I wonder what
- 12:15Speaker 1: he is promoting. He is on a show at the
- 12:16Speaker 1: moment in American show. If you're listening to his finish.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Last week, what he only did three episodes? Oh, this
- 12:23Speaker 2: is the show, the show Fish, but his stint on
- 12:25Speaker 2: it finished last week.
- 12:26Speaker 1: I haven't seen the third episode.
- 12:27Speaker 2: I haven't seen the only one he didn't get naked in.
- 12:29Speaker 2: So yeah, well why.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Would I bother?
- 12:32Speaker 2: Would you? Brother?
- 12:33Speaker 1: Yeah? Disgusting anyway, good on him, Yeah, just just up
- 12:36Speaker 1: there doing things.
- 12:38Speaker 2: He has an awkward pause at any point during this
- 12:40Speaker 2: episode your notes because we're actually just watching.
- 12:42Speaker 1: TV, and a weird clip for them to go, Hey,
- 12:44Speaker 1: he's coming up next, showing footage of a movie that
- 12:46Speaker 1: he filmed with his.
- 12:48Speaker 2: Ex girlfriend two years ago.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Yes, it's very strange.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Maybe it finally got the green light, maybe it's finally
- 12:53Speaker 2: going to be somewhere.
- 12:53Speaker 1: But it's been like festivals and stuff. They had been like.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Released as like a proper we'll get there.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll get the good link. He loves his Stargate.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Good good segue back in. But yeah, I'm not paying
- 13:03Speaker 1: extra to watch the MGM on on on Prime.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Now, how many reports we have to go into?
- 13:09Speaker 1: Bezos is Come on, like, all love to the overlord, Jeff,
- 13:12Speaker 1: but like the richest bloke in the world or the
- 13:14Speaker 1: second richest bloken the word depending on what day is
- 13:16Speaker 1: what you really need an extra three bucks for me
- 13:18Speaker 1: to watch Stargate? Come on, mate, And like when you
- 13:21Speaker 1: start producing new starget, which hopefully you will. I mean
- 13:24Speaker 1: I'm a bit worried about the James Bond franchise. If
- 13:26Speaker 1: you've now got full.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Controls, if you actually start making new Stargate, maybe I'll
- 13:31Speaker 2: throw the extra three bucks.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's not around. If they start making new Stargate,
- 13:36Speaker 1: we get weekly drops of episodes. Yeah, I'm absolutely paying
- 13:39Speaker 1: three bucks extra to watch.
- 13:40Speaker 4: I'm actually using someone else's Login's fine for Amazon. So
- 13:44Speaker 4: and if he doesn't, you know, pay the extra three
- 13:46Speaker 4: bucks someone I have to actually pay the whole thing.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that makes I don't know on your KO
- 13:51Speaker 2: thing though. Just to just to circle around to all
- 13:54Speaker 2: of our streaming overlords, I did get this email, which
- 13:56Speaker 2: I think was probably supposed to be email to you,
- 13:58Speaker 2: not to me, but it was plugging it live events
- 14:01Speaker 2: and ESPN now on Disney US.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Yeah, Disney Plus, we now get ESPN.
- 14:05Speaker 2: What else is boring for me?
- 14:06Speaker 1: I wonder how that goes in America because we have
- 14:09Speaker 1: Hulu and we have what's the other one that we
- 14:12Speaker 1: get access like Stars Stars Hulu and Disney Plus have
- 14:16Speaker 1: always been the same thing in Australia and now we
- 14:19Speaker 1: have ESPN all for the same you know, wonderful price
- 14:21Speaker 1: at Disney and Disney Plus. So hey, look, if you
- 14:23Speaker 1: do watch Stargate via MGM the extra upgrade and prime,
- 14:27Speaker 1: let us know. I actually love to know.
- 14:28Speaker 2: I believe Craig does I believe he got the boy?
- 14:31Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, if you're listening to the pod and
- 14:34Speaker 1: you do actually pay the extra, because not if you
- 14:35Speaker 1: listen to pod, it's a very good chance you own
- 14:37Speaker 1: this on DVD or you've already downloaded it on iTunes
- 14:40Speaker 1: back of something. Let us know on the on the
- 14:43Speaker 1: social or us send usn email or something. Just let
- 14:46Speaker 1: us know that you are that you. I want to
- 14:47Speaker 1: see with anyone's actually paying the extras for it or
- 14:50Speaker 1: we're all filthy. That's maybe it's different. Maybe it's different
- 14:54Speaker 1: in the States. I mean, I don't know how how
- 14:55Speaker 1: it all rolls.
- 14:56Speaker 2: But see also if you're if you're not watching it
- 14:59Speaker 2: on the DVD, you're missing out on a little bonus
- 15:01Speaker 2: things like the audio commentaries. And that's some gold. That's
- 15:05Speaker 2: what you miss it on gold like this.
- 15:06Speaker 3: There's some people have have actually stopped that to see what.
- 15:09Speaker 2: Heart blind or something like that.
- 15:11Speaker 3: But there's one and says I love I love the
- 15:14Speaker 3: heart blind or something like that. David, So what do
- 15:19Speaker 3: I write on my arm? It says I'm writing my arm?
- 15:20Speaker 5: What do I write?
- 15:21Speaker 3: And I said, okay, things that you that you've seen?
- 15:24Speaker 3: And he goes hot blonde, hard blind, I love the
- 15:28Speaker 3: heart blind.
- 15:31Speaker 2: So that was a that was a David Hue original.
- 15:33Speaker 1: Couldn't do that on set these days.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Absolutely not gitled smart blonde smart exactly, brave blond, yes,
- 15:42Speaker 2: perhaps empowered blonde.
- 15:44Speaker 1: There is I.
- 15:47Speaker 2: You know what, guys always seen some sun today.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Hasn't he He's just working out one. Hey, we're gonna
- 15:53Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna put this on our
- 15:55Speaker 1: on our story.
- 15:56Speaker 2: They shouldn't have used that photo from ten years ago.
- 15:57Speaker 1: We're just recording the latest episode of Get in It
- 16:00Speaker 1: a Gate, Episode two hundred and seventy six, talk con
- 16:02Speaker 1: Tabula Rasa. I mean you're hearing this in the podcast.
- 16:04Speaker 1: You can check it out on the socials. Guys. There's
- 16:05Speaker 1: Mattie hay Wave Maddie, yeah, good. And there's link A.
- 16:08Speaker 1: He's talking about hearing at soup and over which the
- 16:11Speaker 1: Gold Coast one is next weekend? Yes, it is ites
- 16:14Speaker 1: next weekend, Gold Coast April Friday, April the fourth until
- 16:18Speaker 1: Sunday the sixth. So there he is, there is link
- 16:22Speaker 1: and god, this is a weird podcast for you to
- 16:24Speaker 1: be listening to. Not so much in the video by guys,
- 16:26Speaker 1: um yeah there we go.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:30Speaker 1: So I think about this episode almost as an and
- 16:35Speaker 1: if anyone's wondering, no, that wasn't a hard edit. That's
- 16:38Speaker 1: actually how I transition into that next sentence, because I
- 16:41Speaker 1: feel like, even though I confuse myself sometimes like oh
- 16:43Speaker 1: that was about edit. No, it's clean, there's no cut.
- 16:45Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty five. No one can can make fun
- 16:47Speaker 2: of you for transitioning.
- 16:50Speaker 1: He's so right. This episode, I feel like is an
- 16:53Speaker 1: exception to that rule. That Brendan has where because I
- 16:57Speaker 1: feel like the memory wipe thing, the fact that we're
- 16:59Speaker 1: not even memory wipe, he's just slowly losing it and
- 17:02Speaker 1: he kind of comes to I do think though, that
- 17:07Speaker 1: the not the tension, but maybe the importance of that
- 17:11Speaker 1: particular moment where he woke up and the and the
- 17:14Speaker 1: stress and the anxiety around the ticking clock that he
- 17:19Speaker 1: was all of a sudden introduced to the tablet find
- 17:23Speaker 1: It's like, holy shitty, I need and us as an
- 17:25Speaker 1: audience going what can she do?
- 17:28Speaker 4: What is she?
- 17:28Speaker 2: Why isn't she? There? Is gonna find her?
- 17:30Speaker 1: If this is happening to to McKay, what's happening to Taylor?
- 17:33Speaker 1: Why does he need to find her? And then as
- 17:35Speaker 1: it slowly built back up to that moment, it didn't
- 17:39Speaker 1: feel as big of a of a thing between the past,
- 17:45Speaker 1: the storyline, or right up until the moment before the
- 17:47Speaker 1: show started, the episode started, and the moment afterwards once
- 17:50Speaker 1: we realized we caught up and I'm like, oh, it
- 17:52Speaker 1: was just kind of like, oh, we can't find her,
- 17:54Speaker 1: should we find her? Yeah, let's go find her. And
- 17:55Speaker 1: then they find her and it's not even a big
- 17:57Speaker 1: deal that they find.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Her, it's like, oh, oh, there you are, So it's yeah,
- 18:01Speaker 2: the conceit for me was all he had to do
- 18:04Speaker 2: once he found Taylor is she had to get him
- 18:06Speaker 2: back to his desk that he was chained to, and
- 18:08Speaker 2: he had to hit the enter key. Yeah. Why would
- 18:11Speaker 2: you before hitting the end key? Why would you stop
- 18:14Speaker 2: when you know you're on a time limit to lose
- 18:16Speaker 2: your memory? Why would you stop and make a message
- 18:19Speaker 2: to remind like a two minute message to remind yourself
- 18:22Speaker 2: to do this instead of just hitting the enter key.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Yeah, all of a sudden, that was just reminded me
- 18:26Speaker 1: of and spoiler alert for a twenty one year old
- 18:28Speaker 1: film like the first Saw movie where the first frames
- 18:31Speaker 1: of the film you see a key get taken down
- 18:36Speaker 1: a drain in the bath that's emptying, and then they
- 18:40Speaker 1: spend the entire film trying to look for this key
- 18:43Speaker 1: to unlock their handcuffs to free themselves from their death trap.
- 18:47Speaker 1: And then at the end they get told by the killer,
- 18:50Speaker 1: by the way, the key was in that bathtub, and
- 18:51Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so it was there the whole like,
- 18:53Speaker 1: you know, like we as an audience kind of you know,
- 18:56Speaker 1: now we get that you as your poor character you
- 18:58Speaker 1: could have just like the answer was right there at
- 19:00Speaker 1: the beginning.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Oh my god, I was wrong. It was oh a long.
- 19:06Speaker 1: I was wondering what you're going to substitute in for Earth.
- 19:07Speaker 2: And I went it was there, said I'm going classic, Hey,
- 19:11Speaker 2: we're going to live here.
- 19:11Speaker 1: So it's fine.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Well, so on this episode, Alan McCulloch was the writer
- 19:17Speaker 2: of it. This is his first episode of Atlantis. He's
- 19:19Speaker 2: come over from SG one, so this is the first
- 19:22Speaker 2: episode of Atlantis.
- 19:23Speaker 1: He wrote.
- 19:24Speaker 2: He hasn't he hasn't got a great track record, but
- 19:28Speaker 2: I will give him credit for I think doing the
- 19:32Speaker 2: leg work that a lesser writer Robert Cooper would have done.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Well.
- 19:37Speaker 5: That was the Ultimately, what made this story so difficult
- 19:40Speaker 5: to write is because it's not just as you say.
- 19:42Speaker 5: It's not we're in the present and we're cutting back
- 19:44Speaker 5: in the past. We're cutting back to the present. It's
- 19:46Speaker 5: both timelines are moving, they're just and you're cutting between them,
- 19:50Speaker 5: and oh man, I just have nightmares when I think
- 19:52Speaker 5: of like I in desperation. At the end of the process,
- 19:56Speaker 5: I was going to hand in my second draft and
- 19:58Speaker 5: I pulled it all apart and rearranged chronologically just to
- 20:01Speaker 5: make sure that I hadn't made some kind of, you know,
- 20:04Speaker 5: a stupid mistake, and of course I had.
- 20:06Speaker 2: I mean, there were mistakes all over the list, and
- 20:07Speaker 2: I was like, oh man, she can't know this, and
- 20:09Speaker 2: he can't.
- 20:10Speaker 1: It was just a so not only did he do
- 20:12Speaker 1: the leg work, but he can admit to mistakes.
- 20:14Speaker 2: I admitted that he made a mistake.
- 20:16Speaker 1: Oh that's so refreshing, isn't it. Yeah. It wasn't just
- 20:18Speaker 1: that the director filmed it incorrect. Yeah, and that the
- 20:23Speaker 1: editor didn't put it together.
- 20:25Speaker 2: The writer started poking holes in it and saying it
- 20:27Speaker 2: didn't make sense, and I mean, just just do it
- 20:29Speaker 2: as written, just it has written.
- 20:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:31Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, I'll give him that. Give We'll give him that. Yeah.
- 20:35Speaker 1: I was actually surprised that we did keep going back
- 20:37Speaker 1: and forth. I thought we were going to get a
- 20:40Speaker 1: just a cliche. Hey this happened twelve hours earlier, and
- 20:43Speaker 1: then just slowly catch up to the fact that we
- 20:45Speaker 1: were following two different timelines.
- 20:47Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of crazy that well. I mean,
- 20:50Speaker 1: like you said, he went back and he saw that
- 20:53Speaker 1: there were mistakes and was going to clarify them and
- 20:55Speaker 1: correct them and things. So yeah, I.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Actually had a note to check with you, because you're
- 20:58Speaker 2: all famously you like to do laundry and all those
- 21:00Speaker 2: kind of things more you're watching Stargates, So I actually
- 21:03Speaker 2: had a note to check and make sure whether you
- 21:04Speaker 2: actually saw the initial like fourteen hours earlier.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Oh no, I always make a real point of that. Yeah,
- 21:09Speaker 1: if we you know, come back from an ad break
- 21:11Speaker 1: or you know, cut to black or from the opening credits,
- 21:14Speaker 1: I'm like, just pay attention for the first you know,
- 21:16Speaker 1: justin especially with a show like this where it was
- 21:19Speaker 1: all that tangabently You've got to find Taylor, and then
- 21:22Speaker 1: we come back and it's this nice establishing shot of
- 21:24Speaker 1: the city and people looking around happy, and I'm like, okay,
- 21:26Speaker 1: we're clearly this is a different timeframe. Okay, fourteen hours great,
- 21:29Speaker 1: you know, Like so no, I don't often miss those.
- 21:32Speaker 1: I'm like, you'ally that annoying person where you know, opening
- 21:35Speaker 1: credits might happen and it'll come back, and my wife's,
- 21:38Speaker 1: you know, taking that opportunity to just be on her phone.
- 21:40Speaker 1: She's sitting there scrolling and then it pops up and
- 21:43Speaker 1: is it three days earlier? And I'm like I'm looking
- 21:45Speaker 1: at her like she's because I don't want to be
- 21:47Speaker 1: like three days earlier. Yeah, I know, I saw it. Wait,
- 21:51Speaker 1: wait and then I'll see her look as it fades
- 21:53Speaker 1: and i have to actually it's three days yeah, just
- 21:57Speaker 1: so just so you know, Yeah, this man'splain the setup
- 22:01Speaker 1: being the.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Opposite of what you normally have to do when watching
- 22:03Speaker 2: a movie with your sister who's deaf. It's like, well,
- 22:05Speaker 2: if something pops up on screen, that's the part she's
- 22:07Speaker 2: gonna see, yes, and you don't have to give her
- 22:09Speaker 2: an update on that.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Did you hear?
- 22:11Speaker 2: Did you?
- 22:11Speaker 1: Did you hear that?
- 22:12Speaker 5: No?
- 22:13Speaker 1: You didn't? Okay, well this is this is what happened.
- 22:15Speaker 1: But having said that, we get to pay back occasionally.
- 22:17Speaker 1: You know, you got those things where either an explosions
- 22:19Speaker 1: gone off and someone's just hearing that white noise, or
- 22:22Speaker 1: it's just silence, you know for whatever, you know, or
- 22:24Speaker 1: some score over the top or something, and someone will
- 22:26Speaker 1: be mouthing things and I'm like, I mean, it's obviously
- 22:29Speaker 1: not important. Otherwise they would have let us hear their
- 22:31Speaker 1: dark Jamie like, hey, what's he saying?
- 22:34Speaker 2: His lips?
- 22:34Speaker 1: She's like, I've never seen that act to speak before.
- 22:36Speaker 1: I don't know how to read their living.
- 22:38Speaker 2: That's a skill, but you've.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Got to you know, you've got to develop it.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Yeah, genius.
- 22:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:42Speaker 2: How how did you feel about the cactus?
- 22:49Speaker 4: The cactus when when Roddy went to see his girlfriend
- 22:52Speaker 4: and she had the cactus named after him.
- 22:54Speaker 2: And it was very phallic.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, well the fact that it was spikey
- 23:00Speaker 1: and then it looked like it did or.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was very much an on the day thing.
- 23:06Speaker 2: You know, they chose that that cactus specifically, they believe
- 23:08Speaker 2: it or not that cactus is a reoccurring character. That
- 23:11Speaker 2: cactus comes back in a later episode.
- 23:13Speaker 1: So again I was looking at it, I'm like, why
- 23:15Speaker 1: does it have to kind.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Of be a different color?
- 23:17Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 23:17Speaker 2: No, And and in the order commentary, Martin Would said
- 23:20Speaker 2: David Hutt was holding it on that specific angle the
- 23:23Speaker 2: way he's just kind of for.
- 23:26Speaker 1: He's writing hot Blondes, He's going to be holding a Yeah,
- 23:28Speaker 1: a Dick cactus. Absolutely, there's the name of the episode.
- 23:31Speaker 1: If we knowed their episodes and a funny.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Things six Dick cactus in space. Yeah, like like MOULDI
- 23:38Speaker 2: Dick or is that well, I mean I don't know
- 23:40Speaker 2: what kind of you know, Yeah, does mould get Spikey.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Let's I digress.
- 23:43Speaker 1: No, we shouldn't. That's a territory we I mean, you know,
- 23:46Speaker 1: even on this podcast, we don't need to explain. That's
- 23:49Speaker 1: always it's always an awkward thing to watch Rodney, like
- 23:52Speaker 1: because the fact that he goes out of his way
- 23:54Speaker 1: right to go and talk to his quote unquote girlfriend.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Yeah, because they says someone about she's just come back.
- 24:00Speaker 2: She must have been evacuated, you know, at the end
- 24:02Speaker 2: of the season when we're being attacked by the replicators
- 24:04Speaker 2: and I guess everyone's on here just coming back now.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Yeah, But just the way he's like, oh, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 1: and sort of like he goes off to see her,
- 24:10Speaker 1: just because Rodney is such an asshole a lot of
- 24:13Speaker 1: the time and he's got no time for anybody because
- 24:16Speaker 1: everyone's dumber than he is, right that when he goes
- 24:19Speaker 1: up to her and she's lovely. You know, she's obviously
- 24:22Speaker 1: into the sciences and you know, she's very smart herself,
- 24:26Speaker 1: but of course she's not on his level and to
- 24:28Speaker 1: a point where I think she would not pity him.
- 24:31Speaker 1: But sort of, you know, humor his eccentric nature and
- 24:37Speaker 1: you know, even his condescending nature to a point that
- 24:39Speaker 1: would be you know, maybe part of his charm, because
- 24:40Speaker 1: maybe she thinks he's doing it as some type of
- 24:43Speaker 1: defense mechanism and she just has to sort of really
- 24:45Speaker 1: crack that shell and then she'll get the lovely and
- 24:47Speaker 1: maybe she has, but we don't get to see that
- 24:49Speaker 1: very much. We don't see the inner workings of their relationship,
- 24:52Speaker 1: certainly not yet. So when they do come across each other,
- 24:55Speaker 1: like at the start of this episode, well again we
- 24:58Speaker 1: don't get to see that. And and he's very nice
- 25:01Speaker 1: to her, I can't help but sit there and think
- 25:04Speaker 1: he's just he's just like almost like he's humoring her,
- 25:07Speaker 1: like he's just it's a means to an end, whatever
- 25:09Speaker 1: that end might be. And not even again on a
- 25:11Speaker 1: sexual level, Like again I don't I think he's too
- 25:14Speaker 1: asexual to worry about having a relationship. Like last week
- 25:17Speaker 1: he's angry at John going of course you get to
- 25:19Speaker 1: hang out with the sexy aliens that where you know,
- 25:21Speaker 1: leather and and and get the let the puppies out,
- 25:24Speaker 1: the jubblut, and but at the same time he's so
- 25:29Speaker 1: not about that. When there is a problem to be
- 25:32Speaker 1: solved and there is a moment for him to either
- 25:35Speaker 1: have a little fun with a member of the opposite
- 25:37Speaker 1: sex or to prove that he's right. He has taken
- 25:40Speaker 1: proving his right every boy of the week, every single time.
- 25:44Speaker 2: So it does feel a little bit like, yeah, he
- 25:46Speaker 2: was doing that because like he was going to because
- 25:48Speaker 2: it was like, Oh, that's something that she's expecting me
- 25:50Speaker 2: to do. I'll take no pleasure in this, but I
- 25:52Speaker 2: will do I'll do this maintenance because that's something that
- 25:54Speaker 2: she wants. But yeah, it's interesting because you know, she's
- 25:58Speaker 2: potentially the Rodney McKay of of biology and botanics and
- 26:01Speaker 2: stuff like that. She might be equally as smart as him.
- 26:03Speaker 2: With that, she also has her own social awkwardness. She's
- 26:07Speaker 2: a very awkward kind of character. But she's also more
- 26:11Speaker 2: emotionally intelligent than Roddy. Yes, not by much, but you know,
- 26:15Speaker 2: to the fact that she finds him charming, it's gotta
- 26:17Speaker 2: be something that's something wrong with her to him charming. Yeah,
- 26:22Speaker 2: so it is a very interesting dynamic. Yeah, but I
- 26:26Speaker 2: think that's also sort of I think what you said
- 26:28Speaker 2: works as well, given that she the way she described
- 26:31Speaker 2: the cactus that she named after him, it was like prickly,
- 26:34Speaker 2: but something or other. Yeah, And I was like, oh,
- 26:36Speaker 2: so that's how she sees him. He's prickly, but he's
- 26:40Speaker 2: also very lovable.
- 26:41Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, Well, I mean, having said everything I
- 26:43Speaker 1: just did, that I don't It's not that I do.
- 26:46Speaker 1: I can't now that I don't believe it. I do
- 26:47Speaker 1: believe it. I just I think everything I've ever known
- 26:50Speaker 1: about Rodney almost tells me that I should be not
- 26:54Speaker 1: trusting that a little bit. But then when she did
- 26:56Speaker 1: get sick and she's unconscious or whatever, she certainly Edward
- 27:00Speaker 1: and he's sitting there next to her, like holding her
- 27:03Speaker 1: hand or just watching over her and showing a lot
- 27:06Speaker 1: of concern, and that was kind of refreshing. I'm like, oh,
- 27:08Speaker 1: I didn't. It's not that I didn't know that you
- 27:09Speaker 1: had this in you. I just didn't think we would
- 27:11Speaker 1: ever get to a level where you would want to
- 27:14Speaker 1: show this, you know, Like we've seen what his relationship
- 27:16Speaker 1: was with his sister and how prickly you know that was,
- 27:19Speaker 1: and then we get him with this, you know, girlfriend,
- 27:24Speaker 1: and yeah, he was a lot more loving and caring
- 27:28Speaker 1: than I think that I ever expected to see from
- 27:30Speaker 1: him on that level.
- 27:31Speaker 2: With yes, yeah, which is very at odds with the way.
- 27:36Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's grown a lot of the characters
- 27:37Speaker 2: as we first met him, but just in general that
- 27:39Speaker 2: and even the stuff on his arm. I love the
- 27:41Speaker 2: hot blonde and know, Yeah, he's very physical when it
- 27:46Speaker 2: comes to Carter. His attraction to her is very physical,
- 27:49Speaker 2: even though she's as smart as, or if not smarter
- 27:52Speaker 2: than he is. I wonder whether he's on a similar level.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Yeah, he wouldn't be able to resp It's almost like
- 27:56Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to be too attached to that
- 27:59Speaker 1: because it would be a threat to his own intelligence.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Yes, Whereas I feel like with Katie, because she has
- 28:03Speaker 2: her own speciality in the sciences that he knows nothing about,
- 28:09Speaker 2: he can't be threatened by her intelligence in that regard,
- 28:12Speaker 2: and she's at no point trying to one up him
- 28:14Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. So I feel like
- 28:16Speaker 2: he's I think he's physically attracted to Karter, but is
- 28:20Speaker 2: scared by her intelligence that she might actually be smarter
- 28:25Speaker 2: than him. But with Katie, I feel like he's emotionally
- 28:29Speaker 2: attracted to her. It's very There is no sexual nature
- 28:33Speaker 2: to their so far. I don't really find that there's
- 28:36Speaker 2: nothing sexual about except for the cactus. Of course, he
- 28:40Speaker 2: doesn't treat her like an object like he does with Sam,
- 28:44Speaker 2: you know, which I think is obviously defense mechanism. But yes,
- 28:46Speaker 2: it's like he's he's emotionally attracted to Katie, but I
- 28:48Speaker 2: don't know if he's as physically attracted to Katie as
- 28:52Speaker 2: he is with Carter. He's physically attracted to Karter, but
- 28:56Speaker 2: he's not letting himself be emotionally attracted to Karta because
- 28:59Speaker 2: she's smarter than his His pride won't let him, you know,
- 29:03Speaker 2: accept that.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Yeah, And I wonder how much of a threat it
- 29:05Speaker 1: is too that she is or could be smarter than him,
- 29:10Speaker 1: But she is also emotionally stable and emotionally there, and
- 29:13Speaker 1: she and emotionally mature, you know, we've because yeah.
- 29:16Speaker 2: Like that's a mature I feel like the Katie Rodney
- 29:19Speaker 2: thing feels very much like a high school first date.
- 29:22Speaker 1: Early high school, where there isn't that sexual nature to it.
- 29:25Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, we really like each other because
- 29:28Speaker 1: of these reasons, you know, but they're they're they're tangible.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they haven't come across each other at all yet.
- 29:34Speaker 2: Maybe it's just been maybe maybe it's just maybe it
- 29:36Speaker 2: was just the kiss through Beckett.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like if if Carter wanted to
- 29:41Speaker 1: give Rodney a start, he would jump at it, whereas
- 29:44Speaker 1: with Katie probably feels like, oh no, no, we're not
- 29:47Speaker 1: ready to yet. You know, we've got to really go
- 29:50Speaker 1: to get to know each other.
- 29:51Speaker 2: And you're you're I think at the moment, you're you're during,
- 29:55Speaker 2: You're you're enduring. I guess a first watch of Parenthood
- 29:59Speaker 2: with your yes, with your wife, I'm actually going through
- 30:02Speaker 2: a rewatch at the moment. Have you got a season
- 30:04Speaker 2: three yet?
- 30:05Speaker 1: I think when I when I say I am, I
- 30:07Speaker 1: have been there, but it's not a show. She waits
- 30:09Speaker 1: for me to watch. Oh okay, I might just walk
- 30:11Speaker 1: in and she's.
- 30:12Speaker 2: She's on the season three. I forgot. There's a hole.
- 30:14Speaker 2: There's a whole arc there with a circa twenty twelve
- 30:17Speaker 2: Alexandria to Dario with a lot of very skimpy outfits.
- 30:22Speaker 1: How old was she at the time.
- 30:24Speaker 2: I feel like it was post Percy Jackson. She looks older.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was playing she's playing twenties. She's playing twenties. Okay, yes,
- 30:31Speaker 2: so you might want to just see where where she's at?
- 30:34Speaker 2: Where your wife is at in that watch and just
- 30:36Speaker 2: see if you want to jump in on early season three.
- 30:38Speaker 1: I might, just maybe I might.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Just Mitch of Travelers would absolutely get him.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to bring Lincoln back into it. When
- 30:46Speaker 1: they made bay Watch and she was down for the
- 30:50Speaker 1: Australian premiere in Sydney, and Lincoln was down there on
- 30:54Speaker 1: the carpet and got to meet everybody. Hey, as I said,
- 30:58Speaker 1: red carpet, I don't think that makes it any better
- 30:59Speaker 1: and got a meter and you know, like, actually you
- 31:02Speaker 1: spend a bit of time with her, and again, no,
- 31:05Speaker 1: take take some photos and send it to me, because we're,
- 31:09Speaker 1: you know, weens for I always meanwhile, hosting the Queensland
- 31:15Speaker 1: premiere up in your neck of the woods. Actually I
- 31:18Speaker 1: don't know which Limelight Cinemas is that up like Red
- 31:22Speaker 1: Cliffs I've never heard of. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Cinema's
- 31:26Speaker 1: up your way was in the Redcliff area, And so
- 31:29Speaker 1: I actually had a feed coming from the Sydney premiere
- 31:34Speaker 1: and then random photos popping up, and so here comes
- 31:37Speaker 1: Lincoln up on the screen with a selfie of himself
- 31:40Speaker 1: and Alexander Jadario and then I'm taking a photo of
- 31:44Speaker 1: myself with him behind me. It's like, here's me by
- 31:48Speaker 1: myself taking a photo of you while you're down there
- 31:52Speaker 1: with a beautiful actress that is actually appearing in the film.
- 31:56Speaker 1: So I don't watch.
- 31:57Speaker 2: The reason I brought up parents, yes, is the because
- 32:00Speaker 2: what I thought is what a McKay is giving is
- 32:03Speaker 2: very much max.
- 32:04Speaker 1: In that the kid with aspergersh yes in that show.
- 32:06Speaker 2: I feel like McKay is very much giving that kind
- 32:09Speaker 2: of Yeah, yeah, that kind of vibe very much, except
- 32:12Speaker 2: you can make eye contact with people. That's about the
- 32:14Speaker 2: only difference the kid or no McKay. Okay, mackay can
- 32:17Speaker 2: make eye contact with people to tell them that he's right.
- 32:19Speaker 1: Yeah, which then again that's why I have noticed because
- 32:21Speaker 1: that's all the time.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:24Speaker 1: So it was I like the but there's no that
- 32:28Speaker 1: there's no bad guys per se.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Well except for the military, Like if the military calm
- 32:34Speaker 2: their farms.
- 32:34Speaker 1: Like that was too affusing because you get that at
- 32:36Speaker 1: the start, it's like, hey, these guys are coming after you,
- 32:39Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, okay, have they been infected by
- 32:41Speaker 1: something else? And then as it goes on, it's like no,
- 32:44Speaker 1: they're they're just so on mission that they're also losing
- 32:48Speaker 1: their mind and that. But then I actually then started
- 32:50Speaker 1: to think, is this not all a figment of McKay's imagination,
- 32:55Speaker 1: but he is interpreting what they're doing far different than
- 32:59Speaker 1: what they're actually They're coming in and go, hey, Matte,
- 33:00Speaker 1: you've got to come back. You've you've got out of quarantine.
- 33:03Speaker 1: We need to bring you back, whereas in his very
- 33:05Speaker 1: stressed mind, they're coming in with guns are blazing, ready
- 33:08Speaker 1: to shoot him, and screaming at him and throwing him
- 33:11Speaker 1: to the ground and handcuffing him in things. So because
- 33:13Speaker 1: as again we were catching up to the moment that
- 33:15Speaker 1: started the episode, the military weren't crazy. They weren't all
- 33:20Speaker 1: of a sudden like they weren't sitting there and like sweating,
- 33:22Speaker 1: because this like aggression was you know, uncontrollably taking of them.
- 33:26Speaker 2: What they could have hit a little bit harder. Because
- 33:28Speaker 2: Taylor only mentioned it's once very briefly. Is it seems
- 33:32Speaker 2: like Lorne and his team were abusing the meds, the
- 33:35Speaker 2: pills that they were taken.
- 33:37Speaker 1: To keep themselves sane.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And ironically it's what actually made them worse
- 33:42Speaker 2: and more sort of aggressive and that kind of thing.
- 33:44Speaker 2: Because oh maybe I think even John said at one point,
- 33:46Speaker 2: John said take it easy on the major or something
- 33:50Speaker 2: like that. But I think, yeah, it could have been
- 33:52Speaker 2: hit a little bit harder because I feel like, yeah,
- 33:54Speaker 2: they were they were the quote unquote villain. They were
- 33:56Speaker 2: the thing that stopped everything from happening smoothly. Yeah, is
- 33:59Speaker 2: them just getting too But it is weird that lorne
- 34:04Speaker 2: knew that he had to like quote unquote keep order
- 34:07Speaker 2: and he was chasing down all these people, but he'd
- 34:09Speaker 2: forgotten that John was his commanding officer. He had to
- 34:13Speaker 2: like pull that little picture at the end. He had
- 34:15Speaker 2: the picture out of his jacket. So it's like, where
- 34:17Speaker 2: did he think these orders were coming from? You know
- 34:20Speaker 2: that he's so strictly adhering. And again this is one
- 34:23Speaker 2: where I think the audio commentary does help with a
- 34:26Speaker 2: lot of the subtext to it is you know, it's
- 34:30Speaker 2: like what is most important to each individual character is
- 34:34Speaker 2: the trait that they held on to the longest. So
- 34:37Speaker 2: it's like, even though McKay was losing his memory, he
- 34:40Speaker 2: was still able to do certain tech things, not just
- 34:43Speaker 2: the heading the end button, but the other stuff. Even
- 34:46Speaker 2: when Keller was losing her memory, she was still doing
- 34:49Speaker 2: the exact same thing, testing out Ronan and touching his
- 34:53Speaker 2: neck and not, you know, like so the medical stuff
- 34:55Speaker 2: was for her. So I think there is an argument
- 34:57Speaker 2: to say, well, okay, well, for Lorn, even though he
- 34:59Speaker 2: was loose his memory and lost everything, the thing that
- 35:01Speaker 2: he held on to the most was must follow orders
- 35:03Speaker 2: and must maintain order and that kind of thing. But obviously, yeah,
- 35:06Speaker 2: went to the nth degree and just made everything more
- 35:08Speaker 2: complicated for everybody else.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Yeah, and just like a frightening as like episode as
- 35:13Speaker 1: far as the idea of losing memory on an individual
- 35:17Speaker 1: level or being part of a group where no one
- 35:19Speaker 1: knows what's going on. Like once he got ushered into
- 35:21Speaker 1: that room where everyone except the military were that was
- 35:24Speaker 1: the mess, all right, like that point, Yeah, and everyone's, hey,
- 35:28Speaker 1: what's going on? He's like, I don't know what is
- 35:29Speaker 1: going and they're like they were each asking each other
- 35:31Speaker 1: questions knowing that the other person or the other rest
- 35:33Speaker 1: of the group did not know what was going on.
- 35:35Speaker 1: And I said, like, that is frightening. And then they
- 35:37Speaker 1: bring in with oh god, Keller going up to Momoa
- 35:45Speaker 1: and Ronan, I should be saying, going in and out
- 35:47Speaker 1: of actual actor and character and saying, hey, maybe we
- 35:49Speaker 1: should test this, maybe we should do that. And he's like, hey, hey,
- 35:52Speaker 1: we've we've done that. We've already been here, and like
- 35:55Speaker 1: that's a that's a scary prospect. Like I freak out
- 35:59Speaker 1: about that sort of stuff. I was living that in
- 36:02Speaker 1: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one with me.
- 36:03Speaker 2: I was living that. So that was something that I
- 36:05Speaker 2: just had to just I really just sped through those scenes. Yeah,
- 36:09Speaker 2: that was that was Yeah, that was way too close
- 36:11Speaker 2: to home for me.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm like, you know, I don't it's a
- 36:15Speaker 1: joke between you and I and less of a joke
- 36:17Speaker 1: between myself and my wife. But you know, I don't
- 36:19Speaker 1: get a lot of sleep, and you know, but I
- 36:22Speaker 1: countered that by not eating well or doing no exercise.
- 36:25Speaker 1: So it's like a holy trifecta of an early death.
- 36:28Speaker 1: But you know, she's worried that, you know, I'm just
- 36:31Speaker 1: going to have an art attack one day, and I
- 36:33Speaker 1: worry about the idea of you know, my brain, you know,
- 36:37Speaker 1: not being well rested and not being you know, nourished
- 36:41Speaker 1: enough with the right you know, food and all that
- 36:44Speaker 1: sort of stuff. I'm just not feeding, not doing enough
- 36:46Speaker 1: good stuff for my body that you know that the
- 36:48Speaker 1: idea of losing my memory, and you know, I already
- 36:51Speaker 1: forget things, but everyone forgets things, but I forget things
- 36:53Speaker 1: that are important, important to me, but I you know,
- 36:56Speaker 1: important to have you done that job? Yeah, if you.
- 37:00Speaker 2: Finished doing your taxes, I'm like, oh, damn it.
- 37:02Speaker 1: I've been thinking about doing it for three weeks, but
- 37:05Speaker 1: damn it. It's like, did you remember to edit your podcast? Oh? Yeah,
- 37:09Speaker 1: like obviously, absolutely obviously that I'm thinking about that twenty
- 37:11Speaker 1: four seven. So you know, the right things and the
- 37:14Speaker 1: wrong things is a lot between. But I hate the
- 37:17Speaker 1: idea of look look at my kids, and the idea
- 37:20Speaker 1: that you know, what, twenty is, thirty forty years, how
- 37:24Speaker 1: old will I be? This might not even happen, But
- 37:26Speaker 1: if it did, the idea that I get to a
- 37:28Speaker 1: point where I'm in a position where I have no
- 37:30Speaker 1: idea that anything's wrong they do, and that just I
- 37:35Speaker 1: don't know. Watching characters, you know it's going to get better,
- 37:38Speaker 1: But just how frightened they all were. I thought they
- 37:41Speaker 1: all played that quite well in the mess of everyone
- 37:43Speaker 1: freaking out because no or just in the moment where
- 37:47Speaker 1: McKay run into Zelenka and they didn't know who each other.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Was like, holy shit, it's not even like hey, it's
- 37:53Speaker 1: it's I know, I know you, but I don't know
- 37:55Speaker 1: your name. It was just like a complete blank slate
- 37:58Speaker 1: and that shit of shit is fright to me.
- 38:00Speaker 2: So and of course the LINKA was the Feride guy
- 38:03Speaker 2: that was able to get away from the military was Hieting.
- 38:05Speaker 2: Like of all people, I believe and absolutely is the link.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a black ops guy that we that we
- 38:10Speaker 1: said really trying to infiltrate the race.
- 38:12Speaker 2: You you mentioned, Yeah, that scene where like McKay wakes
- 38:15Speaker 2: up in the in the cot and they're in the
- 38:16Speaker 2: in the mess hall and everybody's there, and like he's
- 38:19Speaker 2: having the conversation with Keller and then just a couple
- 38:22Speaker 2: of no name as people we've never seen before, and
- 38:24Speaker 2: that kind of stuff something that they pointed in the
- 38:26Speaker 2: commentary which I really really loved, and it's something that
- 38:28Speaker 2: having seen this episode many many times, I had no
- 38:31Speaker 2: idea of until Martin would pointed out during that scene
- 38:34Speaker 2: where Rodney wakes up and having that conversation, if you
- 38:39Speaker 2: look right in the back, right right right far in
- 38:42Speaker 2: the back in the in the bunks, you'll see Carter. Oh, yeah,
- 38:47Speaker 2: because she doesn't know she's the leader of Atlantis.
- 38:49Speaker 1: Yeah, did she play much of it? Like did she
- 38:53Speaker 1: come into it though?
- 38:54Speaker 2: Like maybe no, no, no, not until later in that
- 38:56Speaker 2: whole single thing they cut away to a preview like
- 38:58Speaker 2: a previously and then we come back she's she's part
- 39:01Speaker 2: of it.
- 39:02Speaker 1: Did not notice because obviously it's it's.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Her and Rodney that have to go on get Taylor,
- 39:06Speaker 2: and they get Taylor out of it, like it's no,
- 39:10Speaker 2: it isn't until Rodney's idea of them like rushing the
- 39:12Speaker 2: guards and they all escape. That's how Carter and Rodney
- 39:16Speaker 2: kind of end up together. And then they find as
- 39:18Speaker 2: Linka and they all rescue Taylor. But just during that
- 39:21Speaker 2: first initial scene where you're talking with Keller and some
- 39:24Speaker 2: random scientist or whatever, Carter is just way way way
- 39:26Speaker 2: in the back, not even a part of the conversation.
- 39:28Speaker 2: Well and I've never even noticed that.
- 39:30Speaker 1: That's a great detail though, ye like for the story,
- 39:32Speaker 1: and and again not to make a big point of
- 39:34Speaker 1: it in the be different if that you could see it.
- 39:36Speaker 1: And then they just cut to a shot while you're
- 39:38Speaker 1: getting some dialogue off screen, just so that the viewers aware,
- 39:42Speaker 1: but if it's just there for you to notice, if
- 39:43Speaker 1: you're actually looking at everything, that's great detail. So cool.
- 39:47Speaker 3: In that scene, by the way, you see a little
- 39:49Speaker 3: tiny Amanda at the back. You see a little because
- 39:51Speaker 3: I wanted to have her there so you would say,
- 39:54Speaker 3: but it's such a weird way to block you, Amanda.
- 39:57Speaker 3: I'm so used to having your front.
- 40:00Speaker 5: Actually writing too, because I mean in writing the scene,
- 40:03Speaker 5: because everybody lost their identity or there the knowledge of
- 40:06Speaker 5: who each other is. I wanted to feature some people
- 40:08Speaker 5: that wouldn't necessarily be in charge. It's just people who
- 40:11Speaker 5: are like, like, I don't know who's in charge. I'm
- 40:13Speaker 5: gonna you know, and and and start.
- 40:14Speaker 3: To feature Carter in I love it. There's the fact
- 40:18Speaker 3: that it's like it was it was one of these
- 40:20Speaker 3: things with you and you go stand back there. How
- 40:23Speaker 3: long has it been you've been doing this series and
- 40:25Speaker 3: somebody said, card you go stand back there? Not since
- 40:28Speaker 3: I worked with Rick.
- 40:32Speaker 2: That's great, that's excellent, Holy shit, so good.
- 40:37Speaker 1: Oh that's like just that one line of linement that's
- 40:39Speaker 1: just so much about their working relationship. That's so funny,
- 40:45Speaker 1: Like he's not listening to that. It's never going to
- 40:46Speaker 1: get back to him, just throw it out the hit
- 40:49Speaker 1: Holy Ship.
- 40:49Speaker 2: Yeah, people found about that it had calmed three years
- 40:51Speaker 2: later or something like that.
- 40:53Speaker 1: Why did you think when Amanda said this, And he's like, oh,
- 40:57Speaker 1: Mandy really, yeah, she she would have no memory of
- 41:00Speaker 1: it either, Yeah, exactly.
- 41:00Speaker 2: And you also know, it's like, there's no way it
- 41:03Speaker 2: was anyone else's this is my internal sort of chronologies
- 41:06Speaker 2: or cannon. Is there's no way that it wasn't a
- 41:10Speaker 2: mana Tapping's idea that when she moved to Atlantis, if
- 41:13Speaker 2: it's in the trivia for like every single episode, every
- 41:16Speaker 2: time you're in her office, and we pointed out, you know,
- 41:18Speaker 2: the episode where she moved in the photo of her
- 41:21Speaker 2: and like of Carter and O'Neill, and then if you
- 41:24Speaker 2: look at her office, there's there's a photo of Jacob,
- 41:27Speaker 2: there's a photo of SG one, there's a photo of Cassandra,
- 41:30Speaker 2: there's there's in my in my internal canon, it's a
- 41:34Speaker 2: man of Tapping who came up with those touches, nobody else.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:37Speaker 2: Yeah, so I love the fact that it's like a
- 41:38Speaker 2: man that can do that kind of stuff. But then
- 41:40Speaker 2: also just shop on Rick in accordio, You're never going
- 41:43Speaker 2: to hear like that.
- 41:43Speaker 1: And we're totally cool. Hey, we're going to feature this scene,
- 41:46Speaker 1: but not really feature at all. You're just going to
- 41:47Speaker 1: be there and we're not gonna paint it. It's like,
- 41:50Speaker 1: can someone else do it? I don't know. No, No,
- 41:52Speaker 1: You're going to be there, but we're not going to
- 41:53Speaker 1: need you. So like, you know, she's like I was
- 41:55Speaker 1: just saying before, the idea of Carter, she's you know,
- 41:57Speaker 1: he's he's physically attracted to her, but she's got this
- 42:01Speaker 1: extreme intelligence, but she's also emotionally put together, you know,
- 42:05Speaker 1: like Card is a full package. She's great. And then
- 42:08Speaker 1: tell you of tapping sing like as well, like invested
- 42:11Speaker 1: in this show to that level, like knowing a character
- 42:13Speaker 1: like that and bringing in details, willing to come in,
- 42:16Speaker 1: do less, you know, and just sort of further it on.
- 42:19Speaker 1: And yeah, that's soft ship. That's funny. Love it. That's
- 42:22Speaker 1: my favorite bit of do you.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Know what My favorite part of the entire episode was
- 42:28Speaker 2: we got to see the mainland. We got we've we
- 42:31Speaker 2: got to see the mainland of this new planet. Yeah,
- 42:33Speaker 2: don't get used to it, buddy, I'm pretty sure that's
- 42:34Speaker 2: the only time that's it.
- 42:36Speaker 1: We're not going back there and they got like some
- 42:38Speaker 1: kind of weird creature there, and then now we've got
- 42:41Speaker 1: dangerous plants, like we're not bucking around there. Yep, she
- 42:44Speaker 1: stay in the water goes.
- 42:44Speaker 2: I believe they wanted to do a dinosaur once as well,
- 42:46Speaker 2: but I don't think they ever did that.
- 42:48Speaker 1: That could be in fun.
- 42:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be in a commentary when it gets to
- 42:51Speaker 2: a certain point. I think.
- 42:52Speaker 1: Okay, I'm interested for you at the end of the
- 42:55Speaker 1: season to be able to refer back to did you
- 42:57Speaker 1: say next week's episode or the week after where they
- 43:00Speaker 1: give away what happens.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah mate, Just you wait, there's even
- 43:06Speaker 2: a special feature on like disc two that spoils the
- 43:12Speaker 2: season finale. Jesus, yeah, yeah.
- 43:14Speaker 1: See glory back in the days of just like, if
- 43:17Speaker 1: you're buying this, you've already seen it go.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Yeah, they're counting on it one. You are definitely only
- 43:21Speaker 2: buying this because, yeah, if you if you just casually
- 43:26Speaker 2: went to this, if you were watching on your discs
- 43:28Speaker 2: and you just casually accidentally hit on the special features
- 43:32Speaker 2: button instead of play just the title of what this
- 43:36Speaker 2: thing is, I would give away like it's it's a
- 43:39Speaker 2: whole and I weren't going to tell you about it
- 43:41Speaker 2: till the end of the season. Yeah, it would just
- 43:45Speaker 2: the title of the of the bonus feature would completely
- 43:49Speaker 2: spoil what happens in the finale.
- 43:52Speaker 1: Well, I mean, next week we're talking about an episode
- 43:54Speaker 1: called Missing, So I mean that tells me a lot.
- 43:57Speaker 1: And also nothing that's up two seventy six to get
- 44:02Speaker 1: into Gate, the tangent episode. It certainly was at the beginning,
- 44:05Speaker 1: but you know, hey, we kept forgetting while we were here,
- 44:08Speaker 1: much like the characters in Tabula.
- 44:10Speaker 2: Well, I think I did mention it last week, but
- 44:12Speaker 2: I'll just in case you didn't. Anyone didn't listen to
- 44:14Speaker 2: that episode. Tabula rasa is Latin four blank slate or
- 44:18Speaker 2: erased tablet, depending on how you translate it.
- 44:20Speaker 1: And yeah, very much was that? Oh boy a boy
- 44:24Speaker 1: McKay back next week for seventy seven Missing. I got
- 44:32Speaker 1: no idea.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Laren's top. It's missing. They gotta find it.
- 44:35Speaker 1: What a tease.
- 44:37Speaker 4: Get into Geek, Get into Gate, Get into the Gate
- 44:42Speaker 4: Stargate podcast.
- 44:45Speaker 2: Get into it now before it's too late.