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The Miseducation of Malika Haqq · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Anytime I've done reality television, it's based off of a
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  Speaker 1: real relationship.
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  Speaker 2: That I have, So I wasn't cast.
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  Speaker 1: It never been cast it to be in reality So
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  Speaker 1: doing an ensemble cast that was like scary.
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  Speaker 3: Stay tuned.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get into my conversation with Malika Hawk right after
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  Speaker 4: these quick ads.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Reality with the King.
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  Speaker 4: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
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  Speaker 4: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.
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  Speaker 3: With over ten years of production experience. Twice a week.
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  Speaker 4: On Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my
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  Speaker 4: friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows
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  Speaker 4: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still taught and
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  Speaker 4: tweeting about.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, rain drops. So look, one of my loves, one
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  Speaker 3: of my baby dolls.
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  Speaker 4: This woman is someone who actually is one of the
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  Speaker 4: sweetest women that I know. She's so kind hearted, so sweet,
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  Speaker 4: But the bitch is shady and thought and I want
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  Speaker 4: you guys to see that side of her, or should
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  Speaker 4: I say, hear that side of her because she.
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  Speaker 3: Makes me laugh.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about my sister from another mister, Miss Malika
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  Speaker 4: Baddy Hawk. Hello, how are you, baby do I miss
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  Speaker 4: you so much?
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  Speaker 2: I miss you too.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I see you, but it's not physical,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not enough.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I want to like run
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  Speaker 2: and jump in your arms like I used to like
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  Speaker 2: hold me.
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  Speaker 4: I know, because we used to work to get there
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  Speaker 4: and see each other every day.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just get right into it.
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  Speaker 4: Everyone knows you, listen, You're an actress, a reality star.
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  Speaker 4: You and I met because when I was producing Hollywood Divas.
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  Speaker 4: It was the third season and I wanted to shake
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  Speaker 4: things up a bit and bring someone on that I
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  Speaker 4: just felt like, not misunderstood, but that no one just.
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  Speaker 3: Knew in terms of like really know them.
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  Speaker 4: Malika and her friend Dorian from College Hill who has
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  Speaker 4: a gain Caroline call Butter. We were there for two hours. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and guys, I was like, Malika, you're not anything I
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  Speaker 4: thought you were. And I said, if I feel that way,
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  Speaker 4: then I'm pretty sure the world must feel this way.
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  Speaker 4: And I was determined to get you in Hollywood Divas
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  Speaker 4: because I was like, if y'all could see what I'm
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  Speaker 4: seeing for two hours, we can really make a change here.
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  Speaker 4: And luckily you and I had this connection. You was
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  Speaker 4: like let's just do it. What made you want to
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  Speaker 4: enter that rim of doing Hollywood Diva?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I you know, anytime I've done reality television, it's
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  Speaker 1: based off of a real relationship.
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  Speaker 2: That I have.
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  Speaker 1: So I wasn't cast it never been cast it to
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  Speaker 1: be in reality. So doing an ensemble cast that was
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  Speaker 1: like scary to me.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, why would you do this?
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  Speaker 1: I actually bought you there's something and that's what I
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  Speaker 1: say forever. I'm like, I think there's like something to
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  Speaker 1: be said about building relationships with people and trusting that
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  Speaker 1: if they see you and the way that you see yourself,
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  Speaker 1: it's a safe place to try something new because I
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  Speaker 1: knew I wasn't on my own. I knew you weren't
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  Speaker 1: going to try to make me look like this completely
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  Speaker 1: different person.
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  Speaker 2: Like I genuinely believed and.
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  Speaker 1: Still believed to this day that you see me the
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  Speaker 1: way I see myself. So that that was safe for me.
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  Speaker 1: And I was in a place where, you know, nine
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  Speaker 1: times out of ten, I don't I it's not with
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  Speaker 1: my sister or not with my best friend, I don't
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  Speaker 1: do it.
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  Speaker 2: And that was a really it was a good step
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  Speaker 2: for me.
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  Speaker 1: It was almost like, you know, you handed me an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to prove something not only to myself but also
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  Speaker 1: to show up in a different way.
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  Speaker 2: And it was maturing. It was very mature for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And the thing about it is, so you were on
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  Speaker 4: the show with Golden Brooks, Holiday Parker, Countess Vonn and
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  Speaker 4: Lisa wou And the purpose of me creating that show
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  Speaker 4: was to show black women in Hollywood, like in all
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  Speaker 4: different phases of their career. And when you came on
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  Speaker 4: the scene, you fit in so beautifully and you were
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  Speaker 4: so comfortable, and you and Golden had this great friendship
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  Speaker 4: and what well was so fun about it?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just gonna say it.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people are like, Malika is like a sister,
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  Speaker 4: Like I didn't know Malika could get down that way.
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  Speaker 4: Were you surprised that people assume like you were this
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  Speaker 4: valley girl that you know, lived a certain life and
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  Speaker 4: then when you around these other black women you were
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  Speaker 4: going toe to toe in terms of conversation and reads,
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  Speaker 4: but you also were just so fucking present in the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because as much as I'm a valley girl,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a black woman. For some reason that's shocking, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why, but for some reason that's shocking.
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  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the women in.
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  Speaker 1: My family and my life for black women as well,
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  Speaker 1: happened to be quite similar to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that what was different was people were.
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  Speaker 1: Experiencing a different type of Black woman who came from
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  Speaker 1: something that really hasn't been There hasn't been a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of light shined on black women that didn't grow
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  Speaker 1: up in primarily black environments but still come from black
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  Speaker 1: families and households and cultures.
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  Speaker 2: In all of those things. I mean, what did we have.
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  Speaker 2: We had d from clueless, Well that was Beverly Hills,
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  Speaker 2: right either way, you know, it's still a movie.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm saying, but there haven't been that many depictions
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  Speaker 1: of someone that you know, was raised by a teacher
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  Speaker 1: and pronunciate it's all her words and has a twang,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, like I've known my life longer than
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  Speaker 1: probably anyone else knew how different I may have been
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  Speaker 1: when I went into different arenas or.
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  Speaker 2: Different environments or different states.
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  Speaker 1: Like my sister and I were like, you know, somewhat
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  Speaker 1: kind of afraid to say that.
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  Speaker 2: Shooting the movie atl.
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  Speaker 1: In Atlanta was a bit of a culture shock for
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  Speaker 1: us because we lived in a world where everybody was
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  Speaker 1: blended and nobody was the same. I went into Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: and everybody was black, So there were things.
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  Speaker 2: Along my journey that I learned because I was playing
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  Speaker 2: a character that was from Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: It was great for me. So it opened and expanded
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  Speaker 1: my mind. Everybody doesn't always come into my world. So
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  Speaker 1: when they are closed off or don't understand or think
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  Speaker 1: I'm not proud of being black, or that I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to be white or something other than who I am,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just it's ignorance.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I've.
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  Speaker 1: Known for a long time coming that you don't beat
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  Speaker 1: the ignorant for being ignorant.
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  Speaker 2: They're ignorant.
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  Speaker 1: May they at some point learn the things that I've
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  Speaker 1: learned and be able to walk, move, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: be whoever you are in whatever environment you're in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, And I could not agree more because again, it
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  Speaker 4: was the beauty of showing a side of you that
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  Speaker 4: I just felt like people never got a chance to
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  Speaker 4: see because you're a private person. Guys, y'all would think Malika,
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  Speaker 4: who has access to the world, would be on jets
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  Speaker 4: every day going to every party.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just private like that. People are like, what do
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  Speaker 2: you do?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, why would I run around and tell everybody
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  Speaker 1: what I do?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I do, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And some people really are more comfortable in that fashion.
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  Speaker 2: It's just never been who I am. I'm just very
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  Speaker 2: introverted in that way.
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  Speaker 1: I just chose a very extroverted way of living.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, financial means and whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot of things I do
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  Speaker 1: in private that people don't know, you know, even as
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  Speaker 1: far as work wise, It's just some things I like
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  Speaker 1: to keep near and dear, like for myself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, even when you were going through the process of
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  Speaker 4: having a baby, you and I talked about that privately,
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  Speaker 4: Like I knew about your your your journey of freezing
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  Speaker 4: as and going through ib APP and you and I
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  Speaker 4: would have these personal conversations. I would go to Malika's crib.
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  Speaker 4: We'll just sit on the couch, talk shit and just
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  Speaker 4: have fun. And to me, you're so misunderstood only because
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  Speaker 4: you're private. But what you said earlier is a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people really think like, oh, she's not a black mom,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm like, her best friend is Lauren London, Cassie.
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  Speaker 2: This is the part I do understand. One of my best.
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  Speaker 1: Friends is one of the most successful people or one
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  Speaker 1: of the most famous people out here, so that's.
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  Speaker 2: All they pay attention to.
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  Speaker 1: So really, that's not been looking at me because I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really given you me if.
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  Speaker 2: You truly pay attention. I have friends from.
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  Speaker 1: All walks of life, and the maturity of my friends
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  Speaker 1: are black. But if you only look at one avenue,
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  Speaker 1: then I can see how people can look at it
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  Speaker 1: that way.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be right back a some quick ads.
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  Speaker 3: This is reality. It's a king, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get back into my conversation with Malika Hawk. Do
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  Speaker 4: you feel like you're in Chloe's shadows sometimes or did
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  Speaker 4: you ever feel that way?
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  Speaker 1: No, I think that you know, shadows are very interesting
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  Speaker 1: because they come and they go right. Sometimes you have
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  Speaker 1: to be in a specific area to be able to
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  Speaker 1: see a shadow.
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  Speaker 2: And I've never felt unseen. It depends on what you're
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  Speaker 2: looking for.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been met where I needed something or in
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  Speaker 1: whatever way or capacity I've been in any person's life.
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  Speaker 1: I've always felt like I was met with respect and
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  Speaker 1: love and all those things. That's why you sustain and
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  Speaker 1: keep relationships it's not meant for everybody to know the
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  Speaker 1: ins and outs of you, know, of your relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just easy for people to.
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  Speaker 1: Say, well, why don't you go get your own show,
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  Speaker 1: or why don't you go get blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's not the desires of my heart.
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  Speaker 1: I only stepped into reality television because I was supporting
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  Speaker 1: my best friend. That was her situation, that was her dream,
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  Speaker 1: and it just happened to blow into something much larger
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  Speaker 1: than maybe everybody even thought it would be. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's who we are to each other.
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  Speaker 2: We write it out. Whatever we commit to and say
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  Speaker 2: we're going to do with each other, that's what we do.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sorry her.
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  Speaker 1: The blessing that was set out maybe just for her family,
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  Speaker 1: has immensely blessed me and mine. So call it a
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  Speaker 1: shadow if you want to. It's one of the brightest shadows.
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  Speaker 4: Out You said something that struck me, and I want
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  Speaker 4: people to know this because again, this platform, this podcast,
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  Speaker 4: is to get to know the side of my friends
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  Speaker 4: that I feel like a lot of people don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You are so right in terms of how you guys
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  Speaker 4: support each other.
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  Speaker 3: When you were in Hollywood, divas.
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  Speaker 4: Chloe Kardashian made an appearance on a TV one show
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  Speaker 4: and supported you and taped a scene.
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  Speaker 3: Only because of you.
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  Speaker 4: She supported you like something that I don't think people
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  Speaker 4: even understand. When we shot the reunion and you set
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  Speaker 4: that fucking stage on fire and you read everybody on
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  Speaker 4: that stage, and people were like, oh, I fucked with Malik. God,
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  Speaker 4: what y'all don't know is Chloe Kardashian pulled up her phantom,
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  Speaker 4: gave the keys to our producer Brent right like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: here to see Malika. We're like, Chloe, we know you, girl.
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  Speaker 3: Come through.
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  Speaker 4: She could not have been more sweet. First of all, guys,
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  Speaker 4: she's gorgeous, could not.
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  Speaker 3: Be more sweet. She's set in.
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  Speaker 4: The audience, in the audience with a bunch of what
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  Speaker 4: you call them, like the paid audience members. Was not
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  Speaker 4: a d did I ask for, you know, water, cupcakes
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  Speaker 4: or anything. She's set there to support her friend on stage.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I.
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  Speaker 4: Want people to know, Like it's not this one sided friendship.
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  Speaker 4: When you were doing your own thing. She even showed
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  Speaker 4: up for you, And I just wanted to share that
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  Speaker 4: story because I again, I just don't think people understand
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  Speaker 4: that it is a two sided relationship that is very sisterly.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, and thank you for saying all those things,
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  Speaker 1: because I think we celebrate each other in that way.
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  Speaker 2: So when other people don't know or don't give that
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  Speaker 2: to each other.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, it doesn't bother us because that's my sister and
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  Speaker 1: you know, and vice versa.
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  Speaker 2: We're very close.
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  Speaker 1: So the opinions of others are just more laughable to
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  Speaker 1: us than anything because we know how we hold each
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  Speaker 1: other down for twenty some odd years.
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  Speaker 2: Like, it isn't based off of nothing, you know what
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  Speaker 2: that's like? Like very few people can even say that,
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  Speaker 2: like they.
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  Speaker 1: Have kept friendships from when they were kids, let alone
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  Speaker 1: be able to like, you know, grow up together, get
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  Speaker 1: the bag together.
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  Speaker 2: Like there are best friends that wish they could work
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  Speaker 2: with their best friends.
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  Speaker 1: I've been incredibly blessed to grow up together and stick
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  Speaker 1: it out.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, you holed her down, and we know that
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  Speaker 4: she holds you down. We'll get past this, you know. Look,
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  Speaker 4: we all know what's going on the news, the whole
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  Speaker 4: Tristan thing and everything else.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously she's your sister.
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  Speaker 4: All of our listeners are fans of hers, and we
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  Speaker 4: love her and endure her and we're loving the new
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  Speaker 4: season on the Kardashians. Can you let us know how
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  Speaker 4: she's doing on a personal level.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's doing about as well as you could
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  Speaker 1: expect for someone in her circumstances. You know, she's not
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  Speaker 1: the first woman to ever endure adversity in.
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  Speaker 2: A relationship or be forgiving or her for whatever.
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  Speaker 1: But there are some glory times that are really meant
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  Speaker 1: to just be glory time, and some of that has
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  Speaker 1: been stripped from her and it's sad. But she really
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  Speaker 1: is one of the strongest people that I know, because
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  Speaker 1: she's got a good head on her shoulders. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: is faith is something else, and she's got a great.
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  Speaker 2: Deal of it. I'll tell you that much. Because this
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  Speaker 2: ain't It's not easy for me to watch, so I
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  Speaker 2: know it's not easy for her.
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  Speaker 4: Do you like, are you the girl that calls the guy.
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  Speaker 3: And be like, motherfucker, what the fuck are you doing? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: For sure, please, But you know we have some relationships
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  Speaker 1: that are you know, family is so important to both
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  Speaker 1: of us, and now it's not the same one.
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  Speaker 2: It's just you you know, we have these kids.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we have these babies and their fathers are very
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  Speaker 1: intricate portions of their lives, and they're good fathers.
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  Speaker 2: What happens with the moms.
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  Speaker 1: And the spouse is we can all sit here and
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  Speaker 1: say some shit should never.
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  Speaker 2: Happen, but it does.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's when you have to continue to
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  Speaker 1: remind yourself of who the priority is, and it's these babies.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: So we know that this new season is coming out
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  Speaker 4: of September.
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  Speaker 3: We miss seeing you on television. Malika. Let me ask
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  Speaker 3: you this.
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  Speaker 4: Do you understand that you gained not only a whole
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  Speaker 4: new respect, but a whole new following based on Hollywood
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  Speaker 4: divas and how you read the girls for filth?
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  Speaker 3: Were you surprised by the reaction people had for you.
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  Speaker 4: In that moment because the comments were insane and people
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  Speaker 4: wanted more of you, Melika.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was a little I mean I'm like
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  Speaker 1: big at like looking and like disappearing, So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think initially I took a lot of it in, but
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  Speaker 1: I did receive a lot of the love. It was
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  Speaker 1: really funny too, when people were like, well, that Valley
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  Speaker 1: girl went right out the door, I'm like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how many people sound like a receptionist when
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  Speaker 1: they get high. But the South side of Chicago that
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  Speaker 1: came from my parents came right up.
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  Speaker 2: And out of me. And I think that what was
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  Speaker 2: so interesting is because.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen so many reunions before, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Just never pictured. I didn't even have an idea of
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  Speaker 2: how it was going to go because I didn't feel
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  Speaker 2: like I had beef with anyone.
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  Speaker 1: And then the minute I became a target, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so today's the day that I let people know that
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  Speaker 1: I'm really not the one got it. So I'm like, so,
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  Speaker 1: you guys are just going to leave me absolutely no choice.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine, Oh baby, and you fight.
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  Speaker 4: Don't do my twin at burn Okay, not that one
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  Speaker 4: that's mine.
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  Speaker 1: I don't play about her never ever have I used
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  Speaker 1: to fight boys when we were younger.
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  Speaker 2: For I've always been a protector.
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  Speaker 4: So you keep it going, those thiss So could we
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  Speaker 4: see you back on TV? I know it's not a
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  Speaker 4: priority for you, but is it something that you would
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  Speaker 4: be interested in doing it was the right project, and
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  Speaker 4: in your mind, what is that right project?
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  Speaker 3: Shall you want to do it?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Who A loaded question, mister King. Look, I'm on the
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: second season of the Kardashians. I'm not leaving that I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: don't know what a television show looks like for me.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because I've been talking about this a lot,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: like a meeting today and whatever. It's like, you know,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I shut a lot of my life down just to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: raise my son and you know, just got him off
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: the school a month ago.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: He was ready and so was I. But now I'm.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Trying to find my own balance and figure out, you know,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: re identifying who this woman is. I'll be forty in March, you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Like, I have so many things that I want to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: do and so many things that I'm working on and.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Have my hands in that I don't know.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: It would have to probably be presented to me because
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeking to do a show.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: But you know me, I don't really leave.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Anything on the table unless it's truly not for me.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So if the opportunity to present itself, I would I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: would listen.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I would listen to you, Carlos, I would listen to you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I have a couple of ideas, you know, listen, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: think there's something fun about you and Chloe as like
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Elma Luise going out on some adventure, you know, meeting
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: people a few good men army style.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I see that. Would would you do something like that,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Malika Hawk.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Let me read it.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Think about that. I have another pitch for you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Give me the run down.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I'll see you the was sheet, and then I have
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: another pitch. You know, you're a young mom.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: You Cassie's a young mom, Lauren London, your sister Kadija. Obviously,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: you know there's a world to really show this the
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: new way of black women who are telling their own
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: stories and leading the charge in creating their own narratives.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: And I think that organic relationship that you have opposite
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: you for twin, but with the other women I just
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: name could also be interesting.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, I love my girls. You know, it's
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: just funny because remember we were all just like running
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: around in.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Free and now all of us have like o kids
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and life.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Just looks so much more serious than it did before
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: because it is. Our priorities are different, and I guess
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it would just have to really align with all of us.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: You know, any project would be a beautiful experience in
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: memories for us. Anytime you can get somebody else to
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: do home video on you and you don't have to
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: pay for it, but they pay you.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I believe in that.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: You know, it's a blessing to be able to do
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: what we do, so I would hear that out as well.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: If I do a high diva's rebood, would you do it?
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh God, Carl, you know, because you know it really
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just isn't. My issue isn't the cast. I didn't have
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: an issue with the cast. It's the drama that has
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to ensue with women that I'm like, I just don't
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: have this amount of drama with women in my real life.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Why would I run towards that? It's crazy. I'm like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: my anxiety is under control, the blood.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Pressure is good, my health is at an all time Hi.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I laid my head on the pillow just as comfortably as.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And when I don't like the pillow, I go buy
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a new one.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel very in control.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, are you thinking about doing a reboot?
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just asking questions. Malika, listen, why I think you
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: know about me? And this is a t for our listeners.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: Mima Leika are always about the business for that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't see why we get up and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: spend our time doing anything.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Else now, so when something materializes, you know, you'll be
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: the first person that I call. But the other thing
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: that I want people to know is you are like
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: this serial entrepreneur, So talk to us about all the
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: other things you have going on, because Mama is busy
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: so much so I'm so happy she had time to
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: do this interview because she's booked and busy.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: That's probably the private piece about me. And I feel
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like some of the things that I want to do
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and launch like next year, are like passion projects of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: mine that I've probably wanted to do like ten.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Years ago, what was just like too scared to do them.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: This little guy ace in my life has just inspired
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: me or showed me how capable I am of literally
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: going into something that I've never done before and actually
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: succeeding by God's grace. So I want to continue to
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: grow and buy properties. And I mean, I love the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: generational wealth aspect of you know, I'm now in the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: long term, long run mindframe, and I wasn't always like that,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: but I have a lot of things that are going
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: to be I have pretty things.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That I'm going to do. I have strong things.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I have things that I'm going to do that to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: give back to our community, ways for people to feel like,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you know, through my message or the way I move,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: that things are attainable.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: That's my goal.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: My goal is to make other women that have some
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of the dreams and ambitions that I have get the information.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: In ways that maybe have not been available before.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: And to also still stay a bit mysterious.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I like that part.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Of myself, like I'm very comfortable there. I love when
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: people were like, how do you make money? It's one
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of the funniest questions to me, and I'm like, that's.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: What they do. That's what people do. People tell other
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: people how they make money.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy though, because I think a lot of
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: people think once you're in the limelight and once you
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: become a celebrity, that they have the right to ask
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: you personal questions. I mean, listen, I'm a producer and
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a host, so I get it, but not to
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: the point of like how you get your money and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: things like that. Listen, guys, I can vouch for you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Mama is paid Mama's living. She is a gift giver.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: When we have the rap party, for Hollywood divas, Normally
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: you just celebrate with your team and you buy drinks.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: No guys ms. Malika brought Carlos King some Gucci at
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: a rap gift.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I love you.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to remember I was raised and
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: it's not what you can, you know, materialistically give people,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: because sometimes you have so much more to offer than
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: someone even really needs in something tangible.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But you gave me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Something that I feel was so much greater than a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: pair of Gucci sandals. I learned about myself. I grew
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: so much in that time frame. I learned that I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was capable of doing things without my sister, without my
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: best friend, like and I'm still learning those things. Those
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: are my favorite security blankets. But you gave me a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: level of security, so that that's a that's a promise
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that I will probably always reward. I mean, I think
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you probably deserve a pair of Gucci sandals every year.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So just address and I'll make sure you get.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: When we sell our next show together, Executive producer, we
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: will be buying each other tons of gifts.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, give me mine when we're like on the beach
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: of some island please.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, of course, I love you so much.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for doing this, Miliko. Where can
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: people find you? Follow you, support you, all those things.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm on Instagram at Melika.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter Melika and this TikTok thing together. Someone
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: stole my name, but it will be. It will be
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: because we're getting it back. It will be Melika Hawk
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: so coming soon.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, you heard it here, folks. Thank you, baby.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Have y'all talk to you text me?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I will, oh, because I love some Alika. Now see
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: what I mean. She's a cool girl. She's super deep,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: super fun.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: And she has great site online and I don't know, guys,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, I may need to figure
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: out a.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Show with Malika.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Let me text her so we can figure out some ideas. Yes, Chile,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go all the way to the
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: valley to meet.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: To meet up with.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Malika so we can discuss some things. Thoughts, opinions Email
• 27:25
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• 27:28
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• 27:31
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• 27:59
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• 28:02
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• 28:07
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