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Project 2025 ... Why Are Dems So Scared Of It? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Third hour morning show with Threstin Scat. Good morning friends, Thanks for joining
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  us wherever, however, we appreciate it. Jared over there with the producer
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  to be named later running the radio broadcast, and I am thrilled as always
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  to have with us. He's a friend of the radio program and we've gotten
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  to know him over the many years that we've done the show through the Heritage
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  Foundation. Hans von Spakowski joins us. Good morning, sir, how are
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  you. I'm doing just fine. Before we get to the topic at hand,
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  which is Project twenty twenty five, just your thoughts on what happened over
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  the weekend. Well, you know, I was glad to see I mean,
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  look, I was just shocked, like all of America was at it.
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  And thank god the split second decision of the present turn his head saved
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  his life. But you know Joe Biden last night saying no violence is no
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  place and we need to lower the temperature of the political rhetoric, well he
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  needs to talk to his speech writers. You know, it's Joe Biden that
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  has called Donald Trump a dictator, a threat to democracy. The New Republic,
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  you know, which is filled with with Joe Biden's political allies. The
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  writers there, you know, put out an entire journal comparing him to Adol
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  Pedler and saying he's a fascist. I mean, the high temperature of the
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  rhetoric has been almost all coming from Joe Biden's side of the political aisle.
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  So yeah, they should lower the temperature. And look, it's one thing
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  to disagree with a policy, but to call somebody a fascist, a dictator,
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  a threat to democracy, that's the kind of thing that is that engenders
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  violence. Hans I couldn't help but take note of the fact that in the
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  hours subsequent to the event, the mainstream media stumbled all over itself, first
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  talking about loud noises and only begrudgingly being called to the carpet and had to
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  correct itself and say, yeah, it was an assassination attempt. It's we're
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  fighting forces here that are not just evil, but they're on every front.
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  Yeah. And look, as another example of this, Benny Thompson, you
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  know, representative from Mississippi. Yeah, he fired one of his staffers over
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  the weekend who put out a tweet saying, boy, you know, basically
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  that she wished this guy had had better aims. Now, yeah, Benny
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  Thompson fired her. But as far as I know, he hasn't withdrawn the
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  bill that he entered oost that would withdraw Secret Service protection from Donald Trump.
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  So you know, that's that's the kind of thing we've we've been dealing with
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  with all of this. By the way, preston weird historical coincidence. The
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  last time that a former president who was running for another term someone attempted to
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  assassinate him was nineteen twelve Teddy Roosevelt in Milwaukee. Oh my, just what
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  we need that kind of irony? Tell yeah. And by the way,
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  the only reason Teddy Roosevelt survived he was hit in the chest by a gunman.
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  And the only reasons he survived again one of these weird coincidences. The
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  same way Donald Trump turned his head the last second, the bullet hit his
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  folded up speech at his glass US case which he had in his pocket over
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  his chest. It actually provides a segue to this week. We will have
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  to transition at some point from the events of the past to the events of
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  the now and the future. And the Republican National Convention is going to begin
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  in just a few short hours. And Hans von Spakowski with me from the
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  Heritage Foundation, Hans. If you google Project twenty twenty five, there is
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  nothing but the typical responses and pushbacks and how it's going to destroy democracy,
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  which candidly wouldn't upset me because we're a constitutional republic. But let's talk about
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  it. Why is this being so smeared? Well, look, this has
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  been out. We started this project in twenty twenty two and it's been out
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  for more than a year. Why would all of a sudden this come up
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  like this? Why would Joe Biden personally be attacking it his speech that he
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  gave. It's a distraction being put forward by Democrats from the mental and physical
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  disabilities of their nominee. It's trying to distract people from that. And look,
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  but look this actually ties into what I was talking about before. Here's
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  what Project twenty twenty five is. In twenty twenty two, we got together
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  literally several hundred individuals, all from over one hundred and twenty conservative think tanks
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  and other organizations, and we said, look, if you were put in
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  charge of the federal government, how would you run each of the agencies in
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  the very large department. And what we came up with was a nine hundred
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  page policy book, and it's no secret. People can go to Project twenty
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  twenty five dot org and take a look at it, and there's a chapter
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  on every department, Department of Justice, the Education Department, saying how those
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  departments need to be reformed and run. But the way this ties into what
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  we were talking about before, Preston is, Look, it's one thing for
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  the Biden campaign and Democrats to take specific proposals in that thing and say,
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  well, we disagree with it. I mean, for example, on American
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  energy, we say we should authorize more oil and gas leases, we do
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  more drilling. You know, if they want to disagree with that, fine,
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  But instead the Biden campaign put out this long list of things that they
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  claimed it does, almost all of which are totally false their fabrications. I
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  give you just one or two quick examples. The Biden campaign put out a
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  list that said that, oh, this would ban no fault divorce is nowhere
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  mentioned in the nine hundred page policy book. In fact, you know how
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  the federal government should be run. Divorces a state issue. So they lied.
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  I mean another one is that they claim it would ban all contraceptives across
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  the country. Again, that is a total lie. They just made that
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  up. The contraceptives aren't mentioned anywhere in this proposal, So they're trying to
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  generate this crazy, bizarre criticism of it by essentially telling lies rather than having
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  a substantive argument about what's really in it. But that's kind of the pattern
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  of illiberalism. They attack personally and just flat make things up, as opposed
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  to have to stand there and have a discussion or debate on the issues at
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  hand. Yeah, unfortunately that's true, and we see it in What's happening
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  here. By the way, I had to laugh when I saw that this
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  list, this long list that had been put out by the Biden campaign,
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  was repeated by in a twitter by Mark Hamill. You know who played Luke
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  Skywalker the Force. He's gone to the dark side, just as fake as
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  his lightsaber was in the movie. Well he's gone to the dark side.
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  Hans, what can we say? I mean, it was the inevitable draw
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  of his dad. I suppose it got the better of him. Hans standby
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  Hans von Spakowsky with me here this morning on the Morning Show. The project
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  is broken down. It has four pillars. He mentioned. I've gone through
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  some of the nine hundred pages it's broken into various sections like taking the reins
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  of government, common defense, general welfare, media, the economy. I
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  mean, the list goes on and on. You can find it very easily
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  just look up Project twenty twenty five, but maybe put Heritage Foundation on it.
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  Otherwise you're probably gonna get sucked into the vortex of lies. Tell mesla
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  on your phone with the iHeartRadio app and on hundreds of devices like Alexa,
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  Google Home, Xbox, and Sonos. This says Chrisler and Ihearts radiozation.
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  It shouldn't surprise any of you that are writing in, that are texting me,
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  that are listening that reports to Donald Trump's reaction to Project twenty twenty five
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  might not be one hundred percent accurate. Hans von Spakowski joins me with a
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  Heritage Foundation and he took part in Project twenty twenty five. The former president's
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  reaction to this was in fact what Hans well. His reaction was, Look,
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  I haven't been consulted this, I don't know what's in it, et
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  cetera, which is no surprise. It's a nine hundred policy book. He's
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  in campaign mode. Nobody would expect that he's read it all so basically he
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  was reactive citizens saying, well, look I haven't read it, I don't
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  know what's in it. But then, this wasn't written for Donald Trump.
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  This was written for whatever whatever person gets elected as president in November, with
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  the hope that that individual would take this and use it as a basically a
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  strategic plan on how to run the federal government. Now, if Joe Biden
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  is re elected, he's not likely to do it. We're hoping that they
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  will take this as a general guide for frankly, a more effective, a
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  more efficient, but also a government that is more protective of Americans liberties and
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  freedoms. Let's talk about the Republican National Committee and its platform. Are you
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  seeing any of what has been suggested in Project twenty twenty five showing up in
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  the stated platform? Oh yeah, Look, there's a lot of there's a
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  lot of things that are saying. But keep in mind that the platform,
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  the platform is just kind of a general outline on a lot of different issues,
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  whereas Project twenty twenty five is a deetailed plan for every government agency and
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  department, from the Department of Justices, Department of Defense. I mean,
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  there are very specific proposals for example, in the Department of Defense chapter written
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  by defense experts saying, here's how DoD needs to be reformed. Here are
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  things they ought to be doing. Here are the things they shouldn't be doing.
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  That the platform doesn't get into any kind of detail like that. In
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  your mind, where are we with regard to Let's just kind of assume that
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  Donald Trump is going to take office. Prayerfully that's going to be the case.
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  Do you think he learned from his first term to surround himself with better
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  people? Because if there was one fault I would put on him, besides
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  not dealing with the debt, it would be surrounding himself with people that maybe
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  he shouldn't have. The answer is a big yes with an exclamation point.
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  But that's also part of Projects twenty twenty five is Look, I don't think
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  people understand what an a possible job transition teams do. In two months,
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  they are supposed to fill several thousand political positions, which is next to impossible.
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  So the other thing that we've been doing is we've set up a database
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  the Airtage found Base, and they set up a database of personnel and we
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  are reviewing, vetting, verifying these individuals, so that when a new president
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  comes in, they'll have a ready database of personnel people pre vetted that they
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  can then choose from to fill these slots, and hopefully that will make a
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  difference in not only the entire administration, but the first making the first six
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  months very effective, so that you get people in on day one who actually
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  know what they're doing and have a plan. What do you think if you
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  were to just summarize the entire project twenty twenty five thing what stands out is
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  singularly the most important thing getting us back to what the Framers believe in,
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  which was limited government. Yes, look, we need a federal government,
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  one that deals with the common defense, public welfare, securing our border.
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  But the federal government these days is doing so many other things that it shouldn't
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  be doing, doesn't need to be doing that, incruding on state state governments
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  and local government, and we need to bring it back within the parameters of
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  where the Founders wanted it to be. Do you feel as though, if,
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  for if somehow the Republicans get control of the House and the Senate and
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  the White House, they have the nerve to do it. Yes, I
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  think they would. And what we're hoping happens is Look, it's not the
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  first time Heritage did this. The first time we did something like this was
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  when Ronald Reagan got elected and we handed Ronald Reagan copies of our policy book
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  back then, and at his very first cabinet meeting, he handed a coffee
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  to every one of his new cabinet secretaries and said, I want you to
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  read this, and I want you to follow these recommendations. And we're hoping
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  the same thing will happen with the next president. Hans is always thanks for
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  the time this morning. I greatly appreciate you allowing us to infringe upon it
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  anytime. Thank you, sir Hans Vonsbokowski with us this morning, twenty seven
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  minutes after the hour, come back with the big story and my thoughts on
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  all that happened on Saturday this week at Kevin's