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How a Non-Verbal Child Unlocked My Telepathy: Terri Jay’s Amazing Story · Just Be True ~ A Soul-Led Podcast

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Hey welcome to Just Be True. I'm Summer and in
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this episode I had the pleasure to talk with
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Terry J, known as the cowgirl shaman from Nevada,
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to explore the mechanisms of intuitive energy
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work, telepath, and mediumship. Terry J has been
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doing readings for 36 years as a medium intuitive
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animal communicator, and so much more. She has
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adapted remote viewing and sensing her readings
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produce amazing results and incredible details.
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Terry enjoys a full -time career and doing readings
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over the phone in person doing workshops around
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the country and she's published three books as
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she's currently working on her fourth and Terry
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lives in Nevada with her husband or horses and
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her dogs and Terry demystifies psychic phenomena
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explaining that these abilities are grounded
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in energy and psychics rather than woohoo and
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are intimate skills that anyone can learn to
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access. And we're going to talk about this and
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so much more in this episode, so stay tuned.
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All right, let's get into it. No. Nevada. Nevada.
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See, look, she just told me like two minutes
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ago and I already messed up. So I apologize.
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But thank you, Terri, so much for being here.
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I would like to just start giving you the opportunity
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to tell us a little bit about yourself before
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we get started. Well, thank you for that. And
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thank you for having me on. It's really exciting
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to be here. I love to share this information.
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It's so helpful and healing to people. So a little
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bit of my background. In 1990, I was doing a
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horseback therapy program. And I picked a kid
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up out of his wheelchair. And I put him on the
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back of the horse. And he looked at me and said,
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ouch, I have a cramp in my hip. That's kind of
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normal with a CP child. Anyway, I looked at him.
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And I said, you have a cramp. Well, here, sit
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this way. It'll take the cramp out. And he said,
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hey, you can hear me. I said, well, of course
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I can hear you. He didn't doubt on me. It was
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nonverbal. So anyway, we did our thing. And him
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and I are carrying on this conversation. I was
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obviously out loud. He was doing it telepathically.
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And when we were done, I put him in his wheelchair
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and he went back to class. And the gal that was
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helping me said, boy, he's sure talking great.
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And I missed the sarcasm. And I said, well, he's
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very bright. Just because he has CP doesn't necessarily
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mean he has any cognitive issues. She said, Terry,
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you didn't say a word. He can't remember. And
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if I was a horse, I would have done a buck fart
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snort. Because when they're spooked, they do
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all three of those things at once. And I went
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into the classroom. They put a band around his
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head with a pointer. And he had typed out on
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his computer, horse lady can hear me. So I had
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almost instant confirmation that I was in fact
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hearing telepathic communication. I was just
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shocked. That is amazing. Yeah. I've been down
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to her as a Nevada cowgirl. I'm out there cleaning
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manure and taking care of horses and cleaning
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dirty parts. I don't do woo -woo. I just am not
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a woo -woo kind of person. When I went back outside
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and I told her what happened in the classroom,
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she just very matter of fact said, well, you
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ought to learn to communicate with the horses.
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because all animals are telepathic and then wouldn't
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that make the program really safe? I was like
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an idiot. Okay, I can't do that. And at the time,
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this is 1990, there were like no books. There's
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no resources on how to learn to do this. And
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so, you know, I just sort of started doing it
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and it's like once you open to it and... I worked
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with some energy healers that talk to the ground,
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get out of my own way. No ego. Ego means easing
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God out. Oh, yeah. And you can't even have a
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desire to be right when you do this work. Right.
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That'll screw you. Yeah. Yeah. So I just sort
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of started doing it and I was married to a really
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gifted horse trainer at the time. And so we always
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had tons of horses coming in. And so he'd get
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these problem horses and I'd go out and I'd go,
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well, they have this problem. And this is, you
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know, almost 40 years ago. And we had a veterinarian
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who was a chiropractor. That was like unheard
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of back then. So I found out about how important
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chiropractic was for horses. And of course, we
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do my dogs and everything. Oh, so he was a chiropractor
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for animals, not for Not for people, okay. I
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didn't know that was a thing, okay. Well, yeah,
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nowadays people go a chiropractor for a horse
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or something, but yeah, they have to have it.
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They have to have it. Anyway, I mean, they're
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not designed to be ridden or carry weight or
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ram and jam like the things we do with them.
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They're designed to graze, procreate, and run
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from predators. That's it. That's their whole
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job. So anyway, everything's just flowed from
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that. You know, I got into energy healing and
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I'd be on the phone with somebody and they'd
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say, did you hear we lost our daughter? And oh,
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I'm so sorry. And then I'd hear this in my ear
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and I go, I can hear her. And then you can. Yeah.
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And so I relay all these very detailed messages.
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And of course, you know, they're bawling because
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everything I'm giving them is right on. Yeah,
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just evolved in thought. Well, okay, I guess
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I can talk to deceased animals and people And
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I know nothing about what happens when we pass
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nothing So it's like the people on the other
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side are what taught me Yeah It's just been a
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gas and I don't know if you heard I've heard
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about the podcast called the telepathy tapes
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It's it's a really cool podcast and the producers
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actually proven that autistic people are telepathic.
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I'm like, duh, I've been doing that for, you
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know, because that's part of, part of what I
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offer is that, you know, telepathic communication.
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So it's amazing. I love the story of, um, of
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you helping the nonverbal young man. That's wow.
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That's just, I mean, that's, that's amazing.
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I mean, because Even though somebody's nonverbal,
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autistic, and nonverbal, they still want to be
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heard, but in their own way. Oh gosh, yeah. I
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just did a reading on these, I'm going to call
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them nonverbal autistic twins. They were a little
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bit older. I'm trying to remember their age,
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but they weren't babies. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah. I think they were like 11, 12, 13, like
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preteens. And they were still doing colors and
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numbers. And so when I relayed to the mom, these
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guys are brilliant. They need to be studying
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science and physics, not colors and numbers.
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I said, this is ridiculous. I said, that's why
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they're not paying attention. That's why they're
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not doing well. They're like, really? This is
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what... They're bored. Yeah. They're absolutely
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bored out of their teeth. And I've since heard
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from her and she said, the change in the kids
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has just been extraordinary. Because now they're
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functioning at a great level, probably beyond.
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Oh, wow. So there's probably like many others.
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I want to say hundreds of others that are being
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misdiagnosed because they're misunderstood. Yes.
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Yeah, they're not heard. And so that's amazing.
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That's such a beautiful gift. But it's not a
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gift. That's what I tell people is that these
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are abilities that everybody's born with, and
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we just turn them off in childhood. You know,
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you see a little kid, and he's pointing to a
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blank wall, and he goes, Grandpa, Grandpa. And
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of course, he's never met Grandpa, so how can
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he know? That's the spirit of grandpa standing
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there by the wall. And of course, you know, the
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parents said, no, grandpa's in heaven. And of
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course, they're all upset now, you know, because
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they're still grieving. And they try to get the
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kid turned around and the kid's going, but grandpa,
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you know, and so they, you know, they, and then
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if it gets worse, then they tell them, stop lying.
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You know, because they're uncomfortable with
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that information. So, yeah. Oh, that can be,
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yeah, that can be. That can be devastating. Like
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even, I mean, cause I mean, I'm a medium and
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I can see and hear things. And if somebody told
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me that I was lying, I mean, I would, I mean,
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I'm an adult, so at least I can push back and
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say, no, you know, this is reality. But when
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I was younger, like I would get in trouble for
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seeing things. Yep. Absolutely. So you know,
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exactly what I'm talking about is that Everybody
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is born with these abilities, intuition, clairvoyance,
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clairsentience, clairaudience, claircognizance,
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and there's some more clairs like for taste and
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smell, but this is enough, you know. That's enough.
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We're all born with it. We shut it off. And so
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it isn't like you have to learn something new.
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You just need to learn to ground and you need
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to learn to get out of your own way. And you
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need to listen faster. I think that's the biggest
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mistake people make. I always think of that guy,
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Zach Bagans or whatever he is from that he's
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in one of those ghost hunter shows. Okay. Okay.
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There's one of those I don't watch. Yeah, I've
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just seen snippets. But when he goes to talk
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to what he's calling ghosts, and I want to differentiate,
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what are you talking about? Are you talking about
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the the essence of the energy of the person who's
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on the other side? Are you talking about their
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garbage they left behind? Because there's both.
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And both look like, feel like, sound like the
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deceased, right? Well, he does these long sentences,
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like hooky -fooky, like, why are you stuck? Why
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haven't you crossed over? Which is total BS,
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because everybody crosses over. But it's like,
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if you want to communicate with somebody on the
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other side, you know this. It's like, hey, did
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you? Oh, OK. Well, what? Oh, yeah, I didn't.
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You know, it's it's so instantaneous. You don't
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even get your whole thought finished. Oh, sometimes
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I had to be like, OK, I need you to slow down.
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Like, yes, I need you to slow down. Like it was
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an information doublet. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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So you know exactly what I'm talking about. So
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when people and I look at other people's materials,
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training materials for this and it's like, no,
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what he's teaching that is the most important
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part. about learning to do this communication
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is the speed that it happens. You and I have
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been taught the rules of polite conversation.
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I talk, you wait, you talk, I wait, right? Don't
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interrupt, right? How many times have we done
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that as a kid? Well, this information comes so
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fast because it's telepathic, but it's also intuitive
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information. Absolutely. So I would love to hear
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more about. So I'm reading a little bit about
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you. I'm very intrigued on a couple of things,
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but let's go with a little bit more lighthearted
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first is I would love to hear how. your work,
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your mediumship work when it comes to like communicating
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with animals and the impact that it's had not
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only on the animal and the understanding of their
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needs or their situation themselves, but also
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maybe the caretakers of those animals and how
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it's awakened them to the reality of what you
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do and what's there. I try to give them like
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a two minute physics lesson. I know. Everything's
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energy. Energy, frequency, vibration. And the
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thing that people don't get is humans and animals
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were 99 % energy. We're only 1 % physical. That's
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why I can't stand allopathic medicine and diet
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and exercise, because it's only going to focus
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on the 1%. What are you doing about the other
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99 % energetic body? Because that's where disease
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starts, right? But anyway, when when an animal
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or human leaves their body behind, they return
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to being pure positive energy. And the cool thing
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is nothing negative can go with them to the other
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side. Nobody on the other side sits around, wringing
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their hands going, do you know how I died? Oh
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my God, it was horrible. You know, nothing negative
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goes with them. So all that negative energy garbage
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gets shed off and left behind in the earthly
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realm. Well, that garbage looks like, feels like,
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and sounds like the deceased. So mediums, some
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mediums, if they lack discernment, they're gonna
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tune into that garbage and share it as if it
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is how the person or animal is now. It's just
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not true. And I'm gonna say this, people are
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gonna be pissed off. Every single fricking TV
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medium lacks discernment. every single one of
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them. I agree with that. Yeah. They will either
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share what they think you want to hear. There's
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one guy, Matt, that does that. He shares what
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he thinks they want to hear. And then he goes
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dumpster diving and shares all this negative
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crap. It hurts the people. That's what makes
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me so mad about it. It hurts people. You know,
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oh, they're so sorry. And they're begging your
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forgiveness. And where are you getting that?
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That's dumpster diving. Yeah, and even the cause
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of death. Nobody remembers how they died. That's
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a negative. You know, they don't take that with
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them to the other side. And that's how most of
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them start. Who died of a car accident? Who died
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of a fentanyl overdose? Stop it. Oh, my God.
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Stop it. Nobody remembers that. And it's like
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the dog and pony show where they're they're like,
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OK, I got the cause of death. OK, this will be
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really good. I'll get it. And of course, that's
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coming from ego. You know, yeah. So with the
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animals, they pop out of their body and they
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do the wet dog shake like that felt weird. And
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then they just always take off at the zoomies.
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They just take off at the zoomies and they're
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fine. And then they hang around. This is the
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coolest thing. They hang around until you get
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a new dog body or if they find another horse
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body and their spirit will go into that physical
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form and return to you every single time. The
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part that we have trouble with is you can put
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10 spirits in one body and one spirit in 10 bodies.
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It's energy, right? Right. Yeah. Yeah. And you
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can't destroy it. Right. So just because an animal
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or human passes doesn't mean they cease to exist
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because they're mostly energy anyway. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah. No, they absolutely do. I mean, they
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exist just in a different form. The hardest to
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get people To identify with right and be able
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to do that because they think just because something
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is no longer here It's interesting that you say
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that they hang around because I know like we
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lost a Fur baby one time as a cat and I swear
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like for a couple of months after he passed I
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kept feeling him Going in and around my legs.
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Yeah, they do that When I'm looking when I'm
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looking for lost cats That's exactly where I
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look first, because I do remote viewing. But
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I look at the person's feet and legs to see if
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the cat's there. And if the cat's there, we know
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it's deceased. OK. And if I don't see it around
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their feet, then it's like, OK, now let's go
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looking. And then I do map dowsing and remote
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viewing. Right. I'm so interested in remote viewing.
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So how did you get into remote viewing? Wrong
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place, wrong time. Pretty much When I was working
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with one of the energy healers See she used and
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abused me. I'm just gonna say it that way Okay,
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and I was so screwed up at that time I was so
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looking for approval because I was really a screwed
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up individual for my childhood, you know, right?
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Yes, there's like five times a day, can you look
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at something can you look at something over the
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phone? One time she said, can you look at my
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horse and see what his intestines look like?
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And I went, you can't do that. She goes, yeah,
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you can. I said, no, they're skin and bone. And
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she says, well, is that your belief? And I went,
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oh, yeah. My belief was that I couldn't do it.
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She goes, well, why don't you just jump in there
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and go look? And I looked and found exactly what
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we were worried about. And then it was like,
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Can you look at this thing I'm looking to buy,
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this property I'm looking to buy? And I'd say,
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OK, what's the address? And once I had the address,
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zing, I didn't even have to use the maps. I would
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just go there energetically because she was focused
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on it. So I'd go through her to focus on it.
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You cannot believe the details that I get. I
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was shocked. You know, you have a fault line
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3 .2 miles southwest of the structure. I mean,
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that was what it sounded like. Oh, wow. Yeah.
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And then I'd say, oh, this one, there's two sets
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of books. So not only would I get the physical
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structures, you know, of the property, but I
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would get that, you know, there were two sets
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of books and this is no bueno, right? Right.
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Wow. Yeah. So there's no limits to this. Right.
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Yeah, the limits are what we put on it ourselves.
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Yes. I was doing a reading for a gal in Ireland
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and she said, Terry, I can't get out of the bathroom.
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And I said, when did this start? And she told
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me, I said, you were in the Mediterranean and
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you had shellfish. And she said, yes. I said,
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you have a parasite. They checked me for parasites.
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Sorry. You have a parasite. And she got treated
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within two weeks. She was back to normal. She
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couldn't go to work. Couldn't get out of the
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bathroom. Wow. That is so I looked at her. I
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was shown the Mediterranean. I was shown the
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shellfish. You can't make this stuff up, right?
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Absolutely not. Yeah, and so. Moving forward
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a little bit, I believe I read that you've helped
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with police investigations on. That's that's
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one of the only things I won't do. I won't do
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predictions. I believe predictions are totally
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unethical due to the law of attraction. And I
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don't like doing police work. I was a suspect
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one time because I shared some information that
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wasn't public. Oh, OK. All right. I may have
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misunderstood. Yeah. No, I don't like doing police
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work because if you want to get information,
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you have to tune into the perp. And that's garbage.
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Tell us about your work in regard when it comes
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to light. I've seen it on TV. I'm trying to think
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of Charmed. I've seen it on Charmed, which is
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a TV show, but I read it. You actually do map
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dousing? Yeah. I do that to find water, to find
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gold. I found gold for clients. They'd say, I
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have this claim. and I pull up the claim. And
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sometimes I use seven and a half minute maps
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because they have more detail. And, you know,
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I'll pull those up. There's GIS for every county,
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which are really, really extensive maps. And
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you just sort of, I call it the golden finger.
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I just sort of let my finger, you know, look
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on the map and my fingers stop where there's
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where they need to go. And then I describe that
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area to them. So you're not using like you're
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not using like a pendulum or dowsing rod. You're
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using your own intuitive finger. Yeah, sometimes
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sometimes I use my finger and because I've been
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doing it so long that I'll just look at the map
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and just listen to the energy. I'll just pick
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up on the energy. I have a friend who collects
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gold nuggets and she would take them out of their
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boxes. They're all marked and she'd set the gold
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nugget in my hand and I'd tell her what country
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it was from. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's very interesting.
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Yeah, because each country have their their energy
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has a different frequency and vibration. Right.
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Isn't that fun? That is fun. So how did you discover?
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How did you discover this whole Matt Dowsing
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thing? Like, how did it come about? Oh, that
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was really interesting. We have a roommate. He's
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been my roommate for like 20 some years. And
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even when my husband moved here, because we rekindled
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a romance, even when he moved here, he said,
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Dave's coming with us. I said, yeah. We were
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co -parenting a dog. I was going to separate
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them. So Dave is a land surveyor. OK. he'd have
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these seven and a half minute maps out on the
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table as before we had everything by computer
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and I'd go past the maps and guidance would go
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whoa and I'd go quiet and they'd start telling
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me go look at that go look at that and so I would
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go to places on the map and I would describe
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to him what was there. Like there's a building
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here. This one's really good. It's got a good
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structure There's one back here. It looks like
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a little shed and it's falling down and none
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of these things were on the map But he had been
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out there and seen all this stuff And I was describing
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to him what was out there Without ever ever ever
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having been out there and he was confirming all
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of it So then he'd say so where's the gold vein?
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and I went And I just go right to it. And I'd
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say, so here's a fault line. There's a fault.
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And of course, it's not showing on here. But
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the gold vein goes here and then it goes up here
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and then it goes down here. And they went right
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to it and got gold. I mean, right to it. Oh,
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wow. Yeah. And so that just started that knowing
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process. Yeah. Well, there's no limits to this
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stuff. That's what's so freaking fun about it.
24:10
Right. There's no limit. You know, you can look
24:13
inside of any being. You can look inside the
24:17
earth. You know, there's no limit to any of it.
24:22
Like when I bought this house, when I was looking
24:25
at it on the listing and I said, oh, it's got
24:28
a problem with the well, it feels like a hole
24:30
in the casing. And then I said, it's got some
24:33
electrical issues. We've got to test all the
24:36
outlets and it's got a really, really old panel
24:40
electrical panel and sure enough we got the inspection
24:44
and the inspection came up with exactly the same
24:47
thing. Oh wow that's pretty cool right so you
24:50
knew kind of ahead of time. Yeah because I knew
24:53
it was a good house a good you know good place
24:55
to buy we got three and a half acres so I've
24:57
got room to put up my indoor arena when I can
24:59
afford it so it's just fun but there's no limits
25:03
to this you know and right there was this gal
25:07
um called me. Her horse was in the vet clinic
25:11
in Oregon State. I think it's Oregon State. Don't
25:13
hold me to that. And she said, Terry, my horse
25:16
is calling. You give me the horse's name, age.
25:18
The horse is colicking, which is a belly ache.
25:20
And there's many, many causes of it. And it's
25:24
really funny because my guides were screaming
25:26
at me. And they're going, oh my God, look at
25:30
that antlerless. That's an intestinal stone.
25:32
That sucker's huge. Oh, and then it's like, don't
25:40
panic. The horse is already in the vet hospital.
25:43
Okay. And then it was like, look at the rest
25:45
of them. Holy crap. And they're, they're screaming
25:48
at me like this. And then I'm supposed to be
25:50
very calm, cool and collected, you know? And
25:53
I said, um, are you prepared for surgery? She
25:56
said, yes, we've got great insurance. You know,
25:59
my insurance is going to cover it. The horse
26:01
is insured. And I said, I'm seeing an antralith.
26:05
I said, they haven't been able to see this on
26:06
an x -ray. She said, No, no, because that's kind
26:10
of what they're thinking. I said, Well, I'm seeing
26:12
one huge one and a bunch of small ones. And I
26:16
said, So if this was my horse, and I could afford
26:19
it, it's a young horse. I said, I would definitely
26:22
do surgery. And of course, you know, I'm still
26:24
here and my guide screaming at me. Right. Well,
26:31
anyway, they did the surgery. And the horse was
26:35
back running barrel races at 17 weeks, which
26:39
is incredible. That seems like fast. Yeah. Yeah.
26:42
But anyway, one of the enchilas was five pounds.
26:47
Wow. That's huge. And then there were probably
26:52
15 smaller ones, like this big. Wow. I was shocked
26:58
when she showed me the big one. Because you're
27:01
seeing it energetically inside the horses and
27:03
dustins. And of course, I'm listening to my guide
27:06
screaming at me. That is amazing. Yeah. I mean,
27:11
that's amazing. So you know, like, I'll do, I
27:15
do reiki on pets. I always do them distantly.
27:22
I very rarely do them with them physically in
27:25
front of me. I mostly do them distantly. But
27:28
what I have found, and I'm very curious if this
27:31
happens with you too, what I found is like when
27:34
a pet or when the animal is ready for some more
27:38
reiki, they come to me energetically. And the
27:43
client doesn't even come to me like it's their
27:45
pet that's coming to me. Oh, yeah. Once they
27:48
know that it's good, they want it. Yeah. So a
27:55
friend of mine, she has a dog. And when I ever
27:58
did reiki, it was always for his ears. But one
28:01
day, he came to me. And so I did the reiki. And
28:04
so I texted her. And I was like, hey, your fur
28:07
baby showed up for me today. And I was like,
28:11
his back hips are bothering him. So try to get
28:15
some warm compresses and help him out. And she
28:18
texted me back and said, Oh, my goodness, he
28:21
fell yesterday down the steps. Oh, no. So so
28:26
like that was just validation of it. But I love
28:29
the fact that the animals, they'll come to you
28:32
when you're ready for that, that energetic healing.
28:37
And they don't necessarily need to book an appointment.
28:40
I had one lady call me and she's hysterical.
28:43
She's bawling. dog was 12, you know, kind of
28:48
a medium -large breed. And she says, I think
28:52
I have to put my dog down. And I said, wait a
28:55
minute, wait a minute. I said, this dog isn't
28:57
on any pain meds, is it? No. He hasn't been to
29:01
the chiropractor? No. He hasn't getting any massage?
29:05
No. And it's like chiropractor, pain medicine,
29:10
joint supplement. I said, you're not doing anything
29:13
to help the dog. I can do, yeah, you can do all
29:17
that. And I said, this dog just needs help. It
29:21
doesn't need to be put down. I said, this cart
29:23
looks good, kidneys look good, liver looks good.
29:26
I said, everything looks good on this dog. And
29:29
I said, you're just not doing what a geriatric
29:32
dog needs. Anyway, she got back to me like two
29:36
weeks later and she goes, I have a freaking puppy.
29:41
Yeah. That's all that dog needed was what I would
29:44
call support. So it totally changed his energy
29:46
and how he felt and everything. Amazing. Yeah.
29:51
And it was, it was one of those were like, I
29:54
shouldn't, I should, the reason I don't do phone.
29:58
I mean, I do phone and I don't do like zoom or
30:00
anything like that is because I make faces. And
30:06
thank God they don't see the faces because I'm
30:08
looking at this dog and I'm going, what? You
30:12
know, like this dog is fine. It just needs support.
30:17
Yeah. And so the dog was absolutely fine. And
30:20
of course, I do the opposite, too, where, you
30:22
know, the dog is dying and in pain and trying
30:27
to be treated. Nothing's working. And they need
30:29
to let the dog go. And it's like it's a contest.
30:34
He's almost 15. It's like you want to get him
30:37
till he's 15 and then you can let him go. No,
30:40
no, that's BS. We're not doing that. So that's
30:44
interesting. So so it sounds like what you're
30:47
saying, I like I just want to kind of put that
30:49
into different words for the audience is that
30:51
you could have a fur, we'll just call them fur
30:56
babies, you could have a fur baby who is at his
31:00
end of life expectancy, but your inability to
31:04
let go and allow them to be free could be keeping
31:09
them here. Yes, absolutely. And what they don't
31:16
realize, too, is how fast they can come back.
31:20
Dogs and cats do walk ins all the time. Yes,
31:24
I just had this lady just put her put her dog
31:27
down and she had to go get a puppy. And then
31:31
the dog started the puppy started doing everything
31:33
the deceased dog did. And she was freaking out.
31:37
How about that? I said it's a walk -in. It's
31:40
a walk -in, yeah. So I had a dog growing up.
31:43
I had a huge saponard growing up. His name was
31:46
Nicholas. And when he passed, I kept his picture
31:51
on my nightstand or on my dresser for years.
31:54
And then in my 30s, I got a little chihuahua
32:00
named Pumpkin. And I was finally, and I had had
32:05
other dogs, over the years, but I was finally
32:08
able to put that picture of Nicholas at St. Bernard
32:11
away. I didn't have to have it in front of me
32:15
every day because I felt like Nick, that punk
32:18
in this little chihuahua, was Nicholas's soul.
32:24
They came back as a chihuahua. Nicholas's soul
32:27
was probably in your previous dogs too, but there
32:31
was a part of you that was blocked from seeing
32:33
it. probably you know what i call that i call
32:35
that picking a scab oh okay continue well when
32:43
we get a wound when we have great grief and loss
32:46
yeah we actually have a wound and too many people
32:50
believe that if they stay in grief if they stay
32:55
in the pain instead of trying to resolve the
32:57
pain and release the grief that They think if
33:02
they just keep grieving, grieving, grieving,
33:04
it keeps them closer to those that they've lost.
33:08
Well, the opposite is true. The opposite is true.
33:13
Because if they're on the other side and we say,
33:15
oh, I miss you. Oh, God, I miss you. They can't
33:18
even hear that. Right. And if we share how much
33:21
we love them and we can't wait to be with them
33:24
again, we're not talking about, OK, it's our
33:26
time. We're going to the other side. We're talking
33:28
about letting Providing a vehicle for their spirit
33:32
to return to us and we can do that right away
33:34
And so many people go it's disrespectful. I want
33:38
to honor their memory. No sbs Yeah, they want
33:42
to come they want they want to come back and
33:44
try and heal your heart. That's that's what they
33:46
want to do Yeah, but you have to be in that receptive
33:50
energy and space to receive that. Yeah Yeah,
33:54
but when we do these, you know So many people
33:57
they put up an altar as the pictures and the
34:00
candles and the flowers and tape recordings and
34:04
all that stuff. And to me, that is picking the
34:06
scab. Interesting. I've never heard of that.
34:10
I love that analogy. Yeah. Well, I just think
34:13
that we know we're talking about energetically.
34:17
But you know, our light guns that are on the
34:20
other side are also here with us all the time.
34:22
I have coffee with my mom every morning at eight
34:25
o 'clock. Because that's what time I used to
34:27
call her. She lived in Vegas and I live in northwestern
34:29
Nevada by Tahoe. And every morning I would call
34:33
her at eight o 'clock. And she's so funny even
34:36
now. She goes, what are we doing today? And I
34:38
go, what do you got a mouse in your pocket? And
34:40
that's our discussion. I'm working. I don't know
34:43
what you're doing. But she's always trying to
34:47
get me to eat bad stuff. With my coffee and it's
34:51
like no, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna have a nice
34:53
bread. No go get a brownie She says that's what
34:56
she likes And then she does this thing. I'm living
35:01
vicariously through you, you know, she's too
35:03
silly Oh, I love that that is how I love that
35:10
Never gone, you know that you're a medium, you
35:13
know, they're never gone. Yeah. No. Yeah, they're
35:17
never gone and like a friend of mine passed away
35:20
in 2019 and it was somewhat sudden her passing
35:24
was, but when I tapped into her and asked her
35:27
was the biggest change, you know, the first thing
35:30
that she noticed after her passing, she said
35:33
all of a sudden she could be everywhere at once.
35:38
Like, you know, she could be everywhere. There
35:41
was no longer the pull of having to be here versus,
35:45
you know, Like in physical, you can only be in
35:47
one space at one time. It's everywhere all at
35:50
once. But see, we can do that now. That's how
35:56
I'm doing remote viewing. I mean, when I do remote
36:00
viewing and I'm open to whatever's where I've
36:04
gone, I'm getting smells and tastes and sounds
36:08
and feelings. You know, I can sniff houses across
36:12
the country for mold. How am I doing that? Am
36:16
I not there? No, that's amazing. I know somebody
36:21
who's not necessarily a mold specialist, but
36:25
she's like an air specialist and she can walk
36:28
into a home without looking at anything just
36:32
by smelling and sensing the home and tell you
36:34
exactly what's there. Yeah, I do that all the
36:37
time. If I have a client who's got an illness
36:44
and the doctors are stomped and everything, then
36:49
I'll tell them, go in your bathroom. And they
36:52
go in the bathroom and go, okay, look under the
36:54
sink. And then they go, oh my God, look, and
36:58
there's mold. They just were clueless about it
37:02
because they never went under there. They stored
37:05
stuff under there. They got a leaky closet and
37:07
now they got mold. So there's no limits to this
37:11
stuff, whether it's, you know, people go, don't
37:15
you want to travel? No, God, no. Hell no. No,
37:18
I want to be with my dogs and my horses. And
37:21
I love my own bed. I don't want to go anywhere.
37:24
Right. You know, what about the Grand Canyon?
37:28
Well, let's see, I'll go do a flyover right now.
37:31
And I can fly over it and go look. Absolutely.
37:36
So So if someone wanted to work with you, what
37:41
would be, how, what would the experience, like
37:47
describe the experience that they would have
37:49
with you? Well, somebody signs up to do one of
37:52
the seminars, you know, the training seminar
37:55
to learn to do this. I've got three or four different
37:58
types. The first thing I do is send them the
38:01
ebook and now I send all three ebooks. I wanted
38:06
to just have a full, well -rounded experience.
38:11
And so once they read those books, then we scheduled
38:15
for me to work with them. And they can either
38:18
come here in person or we just do it with Zoom
38:23
or something like that. And the other thing I'll
38:27
do is I'll watch some ground because that's the
38:29
most important part about it. a lot of times
38:34
we've got to work on childhood crap because they
38:38
still have childhood crap holding them back and
38:40
they're not loving themselves and you know they've
38:44
had abuse or neglect or something or their self
38:47
-esteem is in the is in the toilet and we have
38:50
to get them to where they're happy and balanced
38:53
and receptive yeah and then and then I ask them
38:59
to do readings for me oh okay Yeah. Nice. They'll
39:06
read my house and they'll read my dogs and my
39:10
horses. And it's really amazing how fast people
39:14
can get this. Right. And that's amazing because
39:17
you can validate what they're telling you. Yes.
39:21
Right. So there's no guessing. Like they're not
39:23
guessing if they're right. You can actually validate
39:26
their information. You know people want to make
39:30
this woo -woo and it's just not it's just physics
39:34
You're right. I mean really just physics. Yeah
39:38
What's what's the the satellite that's way out
39:41
there Voyager? I have no idea the one that's
39:45
it's way Out there. Yeah, I don't know and it
39:49
hit this I was really intrigued because it's
39:53
the farthest anything's ever gone and it hit
39:55
this wall of like heat. And it was so interesting
40:02
because I went, oh, you can go through that.
40:05
I mean, it's like I was talking about, you're
40:07
going, it will burn you. You can go through that.
40:10
It's not too dense and it's just existing. It's
40:16
not functioning. It's not burning. Do you know
40:19
what I mean? Right. Yeah. So it's so interesting
40:22
because there's just no limits to this. Right.
40:26
I mean, sometimes I scare myself. I scare myself
40:29
sometimes. It's like, I wonder about this. No,
40:31
no, no, no, let's not wonder about that. No,
40:35
no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah, I stop myself
40:40
sometimes. Like, no, I don't want to, I don't
40:42
want to go down there. I don't want to go there.
40:45
If you go there, you're going to know. You're
40:48
going to know. I think one of the frustrating
40:51
things for me is being a medical intuitive. And
40:56
you you get you know the diseases of people and
41:01
and how fragile they are And there's no way to
41:06
tell them about energy healing and that they
41:09
more than likely could Get rid of their disease
41:14
process if they did energy healing and you know
41:18
You just don't have the connection to do that,
41:21
especially when it's you know, somebody who's
41:22
you know, well known or, or, or, you know, musicians
41:27
and things. And you hear they've had this diagnosis
41:29
or for actors and actresses and you want to go,
41:32
Hey, you can. Yeah. You know, cause you know,
41:36
they can get rid of it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
41:39
My brother just had a minimal diagnosis of, of,
41:43
you know, he's got a little tiny cancer in his
41:47
intestine. And I just said, Barry Pacman. And
41:51
he went, what? I said, Pac -Man it. And the Pac
41:57
-Man is in his in his intestines. And I said,
41:59
the only thing is, I'm I caution you, you need
42:01
to have some sort of an ultrasound or something
42:05
before you have your surgery, you know, to make
42:08
sure there is something still there. Yeah, because
42:11
you got to be kidding. I said, no, I said, you
42:13
can do this because he's very spiritual. He's
42:17
most wonderful, grounded, just wonderful. Warm
42:22
caring loving person. Yeah, and I don't know
42:26
where he gets it from I you know, I told him
42:31
that and he said so you see this having a good
42:34
result I said, it's all up to you right get your
42:38
man in there and chew it up. Yeah You know, it's
42:42
it's amazing. I saw many clients that were terminal
42:45
They're still here and they're fine. Their disease
42:49
process is gone How about that? Yeah, I love
42:53
energy healing but you know, it's like you talk
42:55
about Oh this diet program and this exercise
42:57
program and they go, you know, as long as you're
42:59
not drinking Drano You can fix it Yeah, you know
43:04
because it's issues in the tissues Issues in
43:08
the tissues. I love your analogies. They're so
43:11
fun have that combination of this is really serious
43:18
work. This is life and death work. You know that
43:22
this is life and death work. It truly is for
43:26
us and our critters. Yes. And you got to get
43:29
humor in there when it's appropriate. Right.
43:33
And and and I like those little analogies because
43:35
it makes it easier for me to remember to write
43:39
Yeah, it also adds a little smile to the situation
43:44
as well. Yes. So as we're wrapping up, is there
43:49
any final thoughts or messages or anything that
43:52
you would like to share? I just really want to
43:57
encourage people to know you have these abilities
43:59
already and you can do this yourself. And if
44:03
you want to learn how to do it, get one of my
44:05
books, sign up for one of my workshops, have
44:08
a reading. And I'm cheap. I've got to raise my
44:11
rates someday because I only charge $50 .90.
44:13
And I've been doing this 36 years. And I have
44:16
$300. And it's like, I have all these poor horse
44:22
people. We call them horse people. I wouldn't
44:31
be able to help them. Yeah. So hopefully I'll
44:36
have a TV show soon. This will be able to teach
44:40
more people what's possible. It's just incredible
44:44
work. And I want people to know about it. So
44:47
if we do this show, we just do reading after
44:49
reading after reading, and then come back and
44:51
check on them and see what happened and see what
44:54
the end result was. I think people are just going
44:58
to be blown away. I want to call it I can't make
45:00
this ship up because that's really what happens.
45:08
I'm shocked at it, and I've been at it 36 years.
45:11
I'm still shocked at what comes through, truly.
45:14
Yeah, yeah, I get that way too. I've been doing
45:17
it for 18 years, yeah, and I still, yeah, sometimes
45:23
I get blown away. And you question, I was talking
45:27
to this lady on the other side, I was doing a
45:29
group reading for her whole family, just on the
45:31
phone, and I said when she stood up, Her eyes
45:35
were just so big, like she was seeing everything
45:38
for the first time. And her husband said, Terry,
45:41
she was blind. I said, not anymore. Wow. Yeah.
45:46
And then I said, and she's, and her and I were
45:48
arguing about this. So she's going, tell them
45:53
yellow bricks. I said, what? She goes, tell them
45:56
yellow bricks. And I'm thinking, what are we
45:58
talking? Wizard of Oz? What's the deal? Yeah.
46:00
Well, anyway, she goes just tell him yellow bricks
46:03
and I went okay and I said she's telling me to
46:06
tell you yellow bricks and I could hear them
46:09
They all lost it laughing crying screaming yelling
46:13
jumping up and now I can hear them. Yeah, I said,
46:16
okay I give up what's the deal? And the husband
46:20
says and he's and I can hear him. He goes Terry
46:22
We just had nine pallets of yellow bricks delivered
46:27
at our house in Hawaii for the back patio Oh,
46:30
wow. I said, did she know about this before she
46:33
passed? He said, no, no. I said, she's watching
46:37
you. And it just, it just made it. He, his grief
46:43
probably went from a 10 down to a four. Right.
46:49
Just knowing she was around and yeah. Yeah. I
46:53
can really say when people realize that their
46:55
loved ones are just right here. Yeah, they still
46:58
know everything that's going on. They can communicate
47:00
with them like it can truly change Yeah, especially
47:05
when you give them when you give them details
47:07
about what they are doing. Yes The live person
47:12
for lack of a better term What they're doing
47:15
that that that the deceased person is seeing
47:18
all this good stuff. They can't see anything
47:20
negative though. That's the thing And people
47:23
make a big mistake because they go, oh, I need
47:25
their help. Well, you ain't going to get it.
47:27
Ask your guides. The guides will help you. What?
47:30
That's a new concept, right? Yeah. Yeah. But
47:35
the people on the other side, can you imagine
47:38
if people went to the other side and then had
47:40
to do duty as a guide? That's not even fair.
47:45
Yeah, that would be. Yeah. And I think that's
47:49
why there's that huge dividing line. in physics
47:52
positive and negative energy and so that they
47:55
can't they can't perceive anything negative in
47:58
the earthly realm they can't and i think that's
48:00
the way it should be yeah yeah because yes because
48:05
yes i can go a whole nother a whole nother hour
48:09
all about that but yeah yeah and it's and it's
48:15
pretty it's it's just amazing when i say they
48:17
never miss a birth a wedding Right. A graduation,
48:23
a job promotion, a new car. They never miss any
48:27
of that happy positive stuff ever. Right. Right.
48:30
Or you put a picture up of them that they did.
48:33
This one person sat across from me one time and
48:36
he wanted to come and talk about like his questions
48:40
was about his business that he's starting, but
48:43
I couldn't even go there. I was like, I was like,
48:46
I'm sorry. I was like, I have to do this first.
48:49
I was like your sister recently passed away and
48:52
he's like yes and I was like and you chose a
48:55
photo to hang up in your in your room in in your
49:00
home of her and he's like yes I was like she
49:03
wants to know why you picked that photo it's
49:06
probably the worst one of her that you could
49:08
have picked and he just busted out laughing he's
49:13
like She would hate that. So it was fun, right?
49:18
It was his favorite picture, but one that she
49:21
described when she was living. And he just cracked
49:25
up laughing. It was funny. It's just amazing.
49:30
When my mom passed, she hit me. She said, hit
49:35
us in our bicep. I said, why do you hit us there?
49:37
She goes, because it doesn't show. I mean, you
49:39
can just tell. My mom is just full of piss and
49:42
vinegar, right? And she goes, why didn't you
49:45
tell me how incredible it was? I said, mom, you
49:47
didn't believe in an afterlife. She goes, well,
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you should have tried harder to convince me.
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Then she goes, it's amazing. It's just amazing.
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And then she goes, I've got your pig. I said,
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what? She goes, remember when you had a pig?
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When you were married to Jake? And I went, yeah.
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She goes, I got your pig. Your pig's waiting
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for you. I said, seriously? And she starts naming
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off horses I haven't thought of in 30, 40 years.
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Wow. you know because I've had horses and multiple
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horses my whole life right yeah she starts naming
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them off and she goes and I'm not afraid of them
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because when we were teenagers our favorite thing
50:23
was grab is throw a lead rope to her and go I'll
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be right back and she'd go oh you know because
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she was afraid of them so anyway she starts naming
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off these horses that I haven't thought of in
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so long wow yeah she said and then she goes it
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is so funny she goes my whole family's here.
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She goes, they look good. I mean, it's like she
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was surprised that they look. I said, mom, you
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get to choose how you look. And she goes, so
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I look good? I said, yeah, you look like you're
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20. And she said, really? I said, oh, yeah. And
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she goes, well, that explains it. And I said,
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why? She goes, well, because my honey has a full
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head of hair. So her husband had predeceased
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her by about five years. Isn't that funny? Oh,
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I love doing this work. It's so incredible. And
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I love teaching people how to do it. I've got
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people I've trained that are now doing this for
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a living. And it's like, you go, you go. Good
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job. Amazing, amazing. It's been an amazing experience
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talking to you. For everybody listening, we will
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have Terry's information in the show notes. So
51:37
please be sure to check out those and we will
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see you next time. And thanks, Terry. Thank you.
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