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POTB 525: Talking IU basketball's transfer portal additions with William McDermott · Podcast on the Brink

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a new episode of podcast on the Brink.
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Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, April twenty third. The transfer portal officially closed
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Speaker 1: for new entries, but that doesn't mean the recruiting has
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Speaker 1: stopped for most schools, I would say at this point
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Speaker 1: around the country still putting together their rosters for next season.
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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Podcasts on the Break, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: be joined by an old friend. William McDermott, formerly Ev
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Speaker 1: Inside the Hall, is now doing a variety of different things.
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Speaker 1: Still writes a little bit about IU basketball on his
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Speaker 1: own sub stack, but his main gig is working on
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Speaker 1: the radio for the Louisville Sports Network. Get to William
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Speaker 1: in just a second. One to take a moment to
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Speaker 1: last time we spoke it was before the Battle for Atlantis.
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Speaker 1: How the world has changed since then in terms of
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Speaker 1: Indiana basketball When you watch those games, How shocked were
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Speaker 1: you at just how that first game went in Atlantis?
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Speaker 2: Well, I definitely shocked, but I think part of me also,
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Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people who follow I
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Speaker 2: you closely, they weren't that shocked. And to me, looking
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Speaker 2: back on the season, that game was kind of I
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Speaker 2: think it was just kind of an eye opening result
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Speaker 2: for a lot of people in the fan base. And
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Speaker 2: I think that was a big turning point for a
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Speaker 2: lot of people in the fan base if they hadn't
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Speaker 2: been turned off already on the Mike Woodson era. But
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Speaker 2: certainly it was a disastrous result from IU. And I
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Speaker 2: just remember the way that you know, you played them
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Speaker 2: close in the first half, and it kind of they
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Speaker 2: were teeter tottering, and then Louisville went on a little
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Speaker 2: bit of a push to end the first half and
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Speaker 2: then coming out of the locker room, I mean, it
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Speaker 2: was just like a bomb went off. Louisville they were
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Speaker 2: just they couldn't Miles Rice could not handle the pressure.
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Speaker 2: Indiana they looked lost, They couldn't get the ball up
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Speaker 2: the floor, lazy defensively. It just was a ridiculous, ridiculous
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Speaker 2: second half. One of the biggest implosions I can remember seeing,
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Speaker 2: at least following in terms of a covering basketball standpoint.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, my dad wrote at some point after that game
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Speaker 1: that that was kind of the beginning of the end
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Speaker 1: for Mike Woodson, and I think some people responded to like, no,
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Speaker 1: he had still had a whole season. But if you
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Speaker 1: watch that game closely enough, it was foreshadowing of what
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Speaker 1: was to come. We saw so many performances, maybe not
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Speaker 1: to that level because then Zaga game was, I guess
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Speaker 1: a little bit better. But then but then you had
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Speaker 1: the performances against Illinois at home, and you had the
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Speaker 1: Iowa performance where it was it was basically a couple
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Speaker 1: of months later and it was the same thing. So
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Speaker 1: in many ways, you're right, it was kind of the
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Speaker 1: just a turning point, and it kind of also showed
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Speaker 1: just how much how shaky the ground was that Mike
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Speaker 1: Woodson was standing on in terms of the fan base
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Speaker 1: that it after what they did in the portal. It
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Speaker 1: basically just took getting blown out one time for most
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Speaker 1: of the people to be out on it. So again,
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Speaker 1: don't want to rehash to Mike Woodson's situation, but I
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Speaker 1: just thought it was funny to bring up because that
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Speaker 1: was the last time you got on the show. You've
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Speaker 1: done obviously a lot of work. I just want to
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Speaker 1: check on you write real quick professionally because you know
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Speaker 1: you have had, you know, a transition now to the
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Speaker 1: real world working down for the Louisville Sports Network. How
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Speaker 1: was that that first year for you do in football
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Speaker 1: and basketball?
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Speaker 2: It was great. I mean, I think when you show
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Speaker 2: up every single day and you're at every single game
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Speaker 2: and you have a role in every single game, I
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Speaker 2: think you kind of develop a sense of appreciation for
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Speaker 2: the people that do show up every single day and
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Speaker 2: do it because I think you're working in sports media,
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Speaker 2: working and broadcasting like it's different. I mean, I had
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Speaker 2: to work on Thanksgiving Day, as did you. I had
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Speaker 2: to work on New Year's Day and stuff like that,
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Speaker 2: and that was all very different for me. But it's
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Speaker 2: also part of what comes with the job. And then
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Speaker 2: now it's the off season and can kind of sit
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Speaker 2: back and relax a little bit more. But I guess
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Speaker 2: with the portal open and everything now, there never really
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Speaker 2: is an off season. But it was a really fun
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Speaker 2: first year. I think I learned a lot, I got
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Speaker 2: a lot better, and definitely things that I'm going to
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Speaker 2: carry out with me on the rest of the way
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Speaker 2: through this journey.
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Speaker 1: So so you've you've still stayed engaged with AU basketball.
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Speaker 1: I know you're still pretty active on x and you
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Speaker 1: write a lot of stuff on your sub sub stack.
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Speaker 1: What's kind of made you continue to stay drawn? Obviously
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Speaker 1: went to IU, you wrote Friendside the Hall, you worked
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Speaker 1: in other student media outlets. Why have you kind of
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Speaker 1: wanted to still stay engaged in terms of writing about
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Speaker 1: the team and a lot of the breakdowns you've been
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Speaker 1: doing recently been pretty in depth and you're you're taking
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Speaker 1: a lot of time doing that. So I'm just kind
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Speaker 1: of curious, you know why you still wanted to stay
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Speaker 1: engaged with that.
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Speaker 2: I just love basketball. I love IU basketball. I think
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Speaker 2: anybody who's ever walked into Assembly Hall, I think knows
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Speaker 2: that that place just has a way of sucking you
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Speaker 2: in and getting underneath your skin, and it definitely did
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Speaker 2: that to me, and the program did even you know,
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Speaker 2: I covered the team for three years, two of them
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Speaker 2: with you, and I think, you know, being able to
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Speaker 2: be in the building and the places I got to
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Speaker 2: go is really cool. And I just wanted to keep
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Speaker 2: following it because I had a follower base that, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think that I developed that appreciated my content and
6:12
Speaker 2: knew that if they were to look for IU basketball
6:15
Speaker 2: stuff that I could provide that. And so I obviously
6:17
Speaker 2: wanted to continue writing as well, and that was a
6:20
Speaker 2: way that I can do that through the blog and
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Speaker 2: the newsletter. So yeah, good stuff.
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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying following and good stuff. It's one reason
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Speaker 1: I want to have you, honest, because you have taken
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Speaker 1: a lot of time to look at a lot of
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Speaker 1: these players in Indiana's I just want to kind of
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Speaker 1: get your thoughts on some of these additions and what
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Speaker 1: you make of them and kind of how all these
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Speaker 1: pieces fit together. Starting with with Tucker Derees. Obviously, he's
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Speaker 1: kind of the name that a lot of people are
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Speaker 1: focused on. The highest rated player in terms of transfer,
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Speaker 1: Porter rankings, although we've kind of learned maybe not to
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Speaker 1: get too caught up in that after the experience of
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Speaker 1: last year. A lot of these guys maybe not from
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Speaker 1: high major programs really besides Degrees, I don't think any
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Speaker 1: of them have high major experience coming into the Indiana program.
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Speaker 1: But I think people are a lot more optimistic going
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Speaker 1: into next season given the regime change and just how
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Speaker 1: these pieces may fit together compared to last season. But
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Speaker 1: Devrees fair to call him that maybe the centerpiece of
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Speaker 1: what's going to be going on with Indiana basketball next season.
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Speaker 2: I definitely think he's going to be one of the
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Speaker 2: center pieces, him and Lamar Wilkerson, especially on the offensive end.
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Speaker 2: And I think when you think of Tucker Dvrees, everybody
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Speaker 2: you know, it's the coach's son. Everybody expected him to
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Speaker 2: come to IU, and I think you know rightfully so,
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Speaker 2: but he's been a little bit under undervalued. I think
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Speaker 2: in this transfer portal. Hall only played in eight games
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Speaker 2: at West Virginia, but when he did play, he was
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Speaker 2: one of the better shooters in the nation, as he
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Speaker 2: always has been. Forty seven percent on fifty five attempts
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Speaker 2: in his eight games at West Virginia, and then even
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Speaker 2: dating back to his time at Drake, he knows the
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Speaker 2: Devres system obviously very well. He's willing defensively and he's
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Speaker 2: a guy who can do multiple things well in the
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Speaker 2: offensive end. A good rebounder at his size, and I
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Speaker 2: think a lot of people forget that he's six', seven,
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Speaker 2: Right So, indiana you look at their height on the
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Speaker 2: wing and rebounding. Ability that's definitely in length on the.
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Speaker 2: Wing that's definitely something that is improving on this roster
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Speaker 2: can in terms of based on the years prior that
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Speaker 2: we've seen Under Archie miller And Mike. Woodson So Tucker,
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Speaker 2: devrees it definitely starts with, Him but in, TOTALITY i
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Speaker 2: think the group That Darren DeVries has brought, in you're
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Speaker 2: seeing a plan and you're seeing a trend of the
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Speaker 2: kind of players that he's bringing, in And Tucker devrees
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Speaker 2: maybe an anomaly because he's his.
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Speaker 1: Son, yeah you're. Right it's almost like any other time
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Speaker 1: there'd be like a huge celebration right when a player
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Speaker 1: of this caliber, Committed but it was, like you, know
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Speaker 1: HE'S i was there for the press conference and he
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Speaker 1: just walks into the press conference with HIS iu hoodie.
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Speaker 1: On SO i was, like all, right he's never actually
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Speaker 1: come out and said anything on social media that he's
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Speaker 1: committed or, anything but it just assumed that he's coming.
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Speaker 1: Along what about his offensive? Game maybe you talked about the.
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Speaker 1: Shooting is there anything maybe that you've seen of him
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Speaker 1: that that maybe's a little bit underrated OUT i was
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Speaker 1: looking at his assist. Numbers he actually seems to be
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Speaker 1: a pretty willing pastor and, distributor to which a guy
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Speaker 1: that scores that, much particularly at the level he he,
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Speaker 1: does you don't necessarily see the same assist numbers out
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Speaker 1: of guys like.
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Speaker 2: That With West virginia last, season he definitely served more
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Speaker 2: as a primary spot up. GUY i, mean he only
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Speaker 2: attempted thirty two's and he attempted fifty five threes in
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Speaker 2: those eight, games and he was only thirty percent on those.
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Speaker 2: Two so him getting around the, BASKET i think at
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Speaker 2: the high major level it's not necessarily an issue for,
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Speaker 2: him but it's not a. Strength BUT i do think
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Speaker 2: you mentioned his. Passing he is a willing passer and
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Speaker 2: he makes good decision decisions. Too AND i also think
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Speaker 2: that has to go with playing under his dad and his.
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Speaker 2: System that is obviously heavily predicated on ball, movement, passing,
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Speaker 2: spacing opening up the. Floor but for, Me, alex if
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Speaker 2: you watch his tape as a, shooter his off ball
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Speaker 2: movement is really. Impressive he knows how to get, open
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Speaker 2: and he knows how to get to his spots on the,
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Speaker 2: perimeter and it also helps that he can hit shots
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Speaker 2: from twenty five plus feet.
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Speaker 1: Out so, yeah you watch some of those clips From
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Speaker 1: battle For, atlantis and he was. Right he was way
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Speaker 1: beyond the. Line it wasn't even Was it wasn't like
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Speaker 1: he was a foot or two. Pie he was six
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Speaker 1: or seven feet and he was making the shots.
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Speaker 2: Effortlessly and he's got the green light. TOO i, mean
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Speaker 2: if he's, open they want him to shoot it no
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Speaker 2: matter where he.
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Speaker 1: Is So Connor enwright was, ACTUALLY i guess the first
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Speaker 1: real commitment among this group coming over From De. Paul
10:55
Speaker 1: but obviously the tie in there is he played two
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Speaker 1: seasons for the Reason, drake he's a guy maybe not
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Speaker 1: getting as much fanfare as as some of the other,
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Speaker 1: names but you look at what he's able to do
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Speaker 1: from a defensive, standpoint is assist straight was really good last.
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Speaker 1: Season he he and Maybe i'm. WRONG i only watched
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Speaker 1: him on, film BUT i get the feeling that he's
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Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys in The Big ten
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Speaker 1: That indiana fans are gonna love having on their team
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Speaker 1: and that other teams are gonna hate. Him like some
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Speaker 1: of the players that over the years that have played
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Speaker 1: For wisconsin THAT i Know indiana fans, like when is
11:28
Speaker 1: it like A ben like A Ben? Brust remember? HIM
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Speaker 1: i don't know if you maybe a little bit before
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Speaker 1: your time played For wisconsin FOR i, think, Yeah, Brad Brad,
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Speaker 1: davis those kind of guys where it was like they
11:40
Speaker 1: were just a pest at all times out, there AND
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Speaker 1: i get the feeling that that's kind of the player
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna be For.
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Speaker 2: INDIANA i, mean he's kind of he's like a little junkyard.
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Speaker 2: Dog he's six,' two just like one hundred and eighty,
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Speaker 2: five pounds but he really gets after it on the,
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Speaker 2: defensive end AND then i think he also provides something
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Speaker 2: on the. Offensive, END right i think a lot of
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Speaker 2: people when you have guys that come off, the bench
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Speaker 2: you need guys that can do multiple, things WELL and
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Speaker 2: I Think connor enright is one of. Those guys his.
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Speaker 2: ASSIST rate, i mean he only played in twenty three
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Speaker 2: games he had an Injury with DePaul, last year but
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Speaker 2: it was sixteenth in, the. COUNTRY right, i mean that's
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Speaker 2: pretty impressive for a guy who's not very, you know high,
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Speaker 2: ball usage a guy who's not gonna be a scoring threat.
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Speaker 2: As much and then he also is capable as an.
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Speaker 2: Outside shooter, but defensively he will get in. Your grill
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Speaker 2: he loves to take charges and that's SOMETHING that I can,
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Speaker 2: I mean i think both of us Know that indiana
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Speaker 2: fans are gonna love watching him get down in a
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Speaker 2: defensive stance and make some plays and wreck. Some HAVOC
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Speaker 2: and i think that couple's really well with the other
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Speaker 2: guards that they've, brought in In Particular, taton CONNORWAY who
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Speaker 2: i thought was one of the best defensive guards available
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Speaker 2: in the transfer portal this seaar And so enwright as
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Speaker 2: a guy who's not going to be, a starter but
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Speaker 2: maybe you have them, playing sixteen eighteen to twenty minutes,
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Speaker 2: a game can fill in when needed for foul trouble
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Speaker 2: and stuff. Like that he'll play, a role and he'll fill,
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Speaker 2: the role and he knows. His ROLE and i think
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Speaker 2: that's really important to have coming off. The bench.
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Speaker 1: For Sure red BAILEY was, i think kind of going
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Speaker 1: in chronological order here to. The Guy red bailey was
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Speaker 1: the next, next commitment and, HE too i think has
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Speaker 1: maybe flown a little bit under. The radar just, you
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Speaker 1: know he was an outstanding player last Season. At davidson
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Speaker 1: he Was An All all League, first Player Our all
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Speaker 1: league first. Team player the one thing that you know
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Speaker 1: he stands out about him he can step out a
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Speaker 1: little bit at. His size it's a little. Bit unique
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Speaker 1: rebounding numbers not really a strength of his and that's
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Speaker 1: that's kind of ONE thing i want to bring up
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Speaker 1: and maybe talk a little bit about later in terms
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Speaker 1: of what they need maybe going forward to. The ROSTER
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Speaker 1: but i think he can play, some five play some four.
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Speaker 1: As well what stood Out About read bailey just from
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Speaker 1: watching his film.
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Speaker 2: HIS passing i think he's one of the best passing
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Speaker 2: big men in. The. COUNTRY really i think some of
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Speaker 2: the angles that he finds and at, six ten he
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Speaker 2: doesn't play like he's, six' ten which i think that's
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Speaker 2: kind of what you're hitting at with. The REBOUNDING stuff
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Speaker 2: but i don't think that's necessarily going to be a
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Speaker 2: problem because he can, space the floor because he can,
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Speaker 2: pass so well and he was also really good at cutting.
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Speaker 2: OFF the, ball i mean this is a guy that
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Speaker 2: knows how to get, into THE lane and i don't
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Speaker 2: want to compare him to A Guy like molique reneu
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Speaker 2: when he does get around the basket, with his footwork
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Speaker 2: but he was pretty solid against a ten competition around
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Speaker 2: the basket. With his footwork he definitely struggled with the
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Speaker 2: more physically imposing big men that he faced at especially,
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Speaker 2: those you know. Really good athletes But his passing alex.
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Speaker 2: WAS just, outstanding i mean he is assist rate twenty
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Speaker 2: five point three for a six ten to two hundred
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Speaker 2: and thirty pounds. Center or forward that was one hundred
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Speaker 2: and eighty first in the country's sixth best assist rate
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Speaker 2: in the CONFERENCE in the a ten as a six,
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Speaker 2: to ten guy doesn't matter what conference you're in or
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Speaker 2: what team. You're playing for that's. Really Really impressive and
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Speaker 2: davidson the offense really. Ran through him that's not going
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Speaker 2: to be The. Case at indiana so if he can
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Speaker 2: play more of, an, off ball spacing cutting a passing
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Speaker 2: role as a six, to ten guy he's going to,
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Speaker 2: be REALLY valuable but i am really curious To See
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Speaker 2: how darren devrees uses him because he's kind he's kind
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Speaker 2: of in a unicorn at his position and A player
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Speaker 2: that i'm not sure how well He fits in davrez's
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Speaker 2: system based on, of years prior because he likes to,
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Speaker 2: have these athletic big rim runners who, can set screens
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Speaker 2: facilitate of, stuff, like that defend, protect the Rim and
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Speaker 2: then i'm immediately thinking About Like a Darnell brody At
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Speaker 2: Drake Or Amari hansbury Amoni Hansbury at west. Virginia last
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Speaker 2: season rebailly definitely is not that, kind of player but
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Speaker 2: he's going to be able to provide a lot on.
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Speaker 2: The offensive end and another thing. His foul rate he
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Speaker 2: knows how, to get fouled and he's a good free
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Speaker 2: throw shooter seventy seven percent on two hundred and twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Attempts last year his foul rate was eighth BEST In.
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Speaker 2: The a ten. That's pretty impressive and a guy who
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Speaker 2: knows how to get to his spots and be effective.
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Speaker 2: Around The rim so.
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot lately just about How many players,
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Speaker 1: indiana ULTIMATELY needs because i know a lot of, people,
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Speaker 1: are saying well you can have. Fifteen, SCHOLARSHIP players now
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Speaker 1: i think the idea of having fifteen players on a
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Speaker 1: college basketball team that atually expect to play is in
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Speaker 1: an era of player movement, THAT we're in i think
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Speaker 1: is a ridiculous idea because you're going to have immediately
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Speaker 1: four or five guys who are disgruntled from day one
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Speaker 1: that aren't getting a chance to. Play AT all and
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Speaker 1: i think you can take a couple of guys maybe
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Speaker 1: at the end, of your bench with the idea that
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Speaker 1: they're going to be development pieces for the end or.
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Speaker 1: For the future, BUT you know i would say the
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Speaker 1: best teams, in college, basketball you know play eight. Nine
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Speaker 1: guys regularly. That's your rotation indiana has already up to
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Speaker 1: eight scholarship players when You Figure, In Trin sicily so
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Speaker 1: i'm thinking two or three more guys that. They probably
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Speaker 1: need is you would you agree with that in terms
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Speaker 1: of the profile of what they? Need, MOVING forward obviously
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Speaker 1: i think they need a player who's at least six',
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Speaker 1: ten that you know can. Provide some rim protection not
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Speaker 1: saying it it has. To be a starter i'm not
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Speaker 1: saying it's actually someone has to play. Twenty twenty five
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Speaker 1: minutes but there are gonna Be nights in the big
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Speaker 1: ten where you're going up against the front line where
17:54
Speaker 1: you have somebody that you need some physicality to throw
17:56
Speaker 1: in there. And try to stop so that to me is.
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Speaker 1: The biggest clearing need just your thoughts on just the
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Speaker 1: overall number of players Maybe that you, expect india to
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Speaker 1: have and what the. NEEDS are Moving forward i.
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Speaker 2: STILL i'm with you i think around twelve to thirteen
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Speaker 2: scholarship guys is, still the right number because then you
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Speaker 2: run into this problem, where you're you know, you're promising
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Speaker 2: guys' money and you're promising guys things in the portal
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Speaker 2: just for them, to, be the thirteenth. Fourteenth AND fifteenth
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Speaker 2: guys and i think that that just leaves a. LOT
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Speaker 2: up people unhappy i think could create some weird locker.
18:36
Speaker 2: Room dynamics and problems so if you can, find like
18:39
Speaker 2: ten guys nine ten guys that you, feel really good
18:42
Speaker 2: about these, are going, to be you know the central.
18:45
Speaker 2: Pieces of our rotation we feel good about them playing.
18:49
Speaker 2: In any given game and then, maybe you have one,
18:52
Speaker 2: two or three projects maybe a, guy you red shirt
18:57
Speaker 2: a freshman coming in who has a little bit of
18:59
Speaker 2: work to do before they. SEE high major basketball i
19:03
Speaker 2: think that's kind of the good direction when it, comes
19:06
Speaker 2: TO roster building and i do think That's the direction
19:10
Speaker 2: that darren. Devrees is going in and you mentioned in terms,
19:13
Speaker 2: OF what they need i do think it'll be around,
19:17
Speaker 2: two three. More PLAYERS maybe four and i think the
19:21
Speaker 2: biggest glaring weakness on the roster as of now is,
19:25
Speaker 2: certainly the front court athleticism on the. Wing and rim
19:30
Speaker 2: protection they don't really have that, physical enforcer Down Low and,
19:35
Speaker 2: in darren devreeze's system they're not going to be the
19:38
Speaker 2: focal point of the offense or the. Go to usage
19:43
Speaker 2: guy he just needs somebody who, can run the, floor
19:46
Speaker 2: protect the rim, be a lob threat. And BE physically
19:50
Speaker 2: imposing and i, think they'll be okay and probably a.
19:53
Speaker 2: COUPLE of, those guys i mean they only have one
19:56
Speaker 2: forward on the roster in, my opinion Right. Now. AND
19:59
Speaker 2: that's bailey.
20:01
Speaker 1: Yeah i mean they've got one player. TALLER than six, seven,
20:03
Speaker 1: i don't. Know yeah and. HEIGHTS heights, Not everything i
20:06
Speaker 1: mean hansbury played a Ton Last. YEAR at west virginia i,
20:08
Speaker 1: Think He's six eight so i'm not saying the player
20:11
Speaker 1: has to be six, eleven or six ten and they
20:12
Speaker 1: could be Six eight if, they're if they're good they're
20:15
Speaker 1: long and they play taller than then you know they're they're,
20:18
Speaker 1: actually hot their height or, they rebound the. BALL they
20:20
Speaker 1: block shots, i THINK that's fine but i agree with
20:23
Speaker 1: you that they need someone who can provide some, resistance
20:27
Speaker 1: In the rim because i'm Not sure against the michigan,
20:29
Speaker 1: states of, the world you know produce maybe A. LITTLE
20:31
Speaker 1: bit different michigan i don't know how you can survive
20:35
Speaker 1: without having some type of. Presence at the rim.
20:39
Speaker 2: You can't Definitely not. IN the big ten I MEAN
20:42
Speaker 2: you even and i think this is A Part where
20:46
Speaker 2: maybe mike woodson and they they maybe had put an
20:51
Speaker 2: over emphasis on it. IN the front court i think
20:54
Speaker 2: we all we, all AGREE with that and I Do
20:57
Speaker 2: worry that darren deriez maybe is putting an. Under emphasis on.
21:01
Speaker 2: It but we'll see we don't know what the roster
21:04
Speaker 2: is going to. Pan OUT to be but i think
21:06
Speaker 2: if you can just find a guy that's going to,
21:08
Speaker 2: do the dirty, work they'll set, screens they'll rebound well
21:13
Speaker 2: they can, push the ball, quickly be, an outlet good,
21:16
Speaker 2: conditioning run the, floor protect the rim and the be
21:20
Speaker 2: a loab threat and solid in. THE pick and roll
21:23
Speaker 2: i think they're going. To BE just fine and i
21:25
Speaker 2: think if you can find a guy that you feel
21:27
Speaker 2: comfortable pairing With the guards that, indiana has brought in
21:32
Speaker 2: it could be. A really good fit and there are
21:34
Speaker 2: plenty of those types. OF players, out there i mean
21:37
Speaker 2: that's kind of the modern big man. In college basketball
21:41
Speaker 2: nowadays but then You Also have the reed bailey post
21:45
Speaker 2: player who can score in the post right and. Be
21:48
Speaker 2: AN offensive threat so i think if you can, couple
21:50
Speaker 2: those two together then you're kind of. Cooking, SOMETHING down low.
21:56
Speaker 1: Yeah i mean it's going To be adjustment for Indiana
21:57
Speaker 1: Fans going From chase shackson To is To Khalil Ware
22:01
Speaker 1: to umar. BOLLO welik were new i don't think you're
22:04
Speaker 1: gonna have a player that obviously is has that much,
22:07
Speaker 1: of A role offensively but i do think they are
22:11
Speaker 1: gonna find some type of post presence just in terms
22:14
Speaker 1: of rebounding and defense that they can. Put On this
22:16
Speaker 1: roster lamar wilkerson OBVIOUSLY the highest profile i guess recruitment
22:21
Speaker 1: of this portal Cycle, so far for indiana just because
22:25
Speaker 1: we Had. The the visit indiana then we Had the
22:28
Speaker 1: trip To kentucky with with lamar out on the on
22:32
Speaker 1: the Worst Track, with with, mark pope you know, in
22:34
Speaker 1: the winner circle and ye what a. What a weird.
22:39
Speaker 2: Scenario that was hilarious.
22:43
Speaker 1: It was just funny to see how it was basically
22:45
Speaker 1: no Fanfare with, for his indiana visit like it was.
22:47
Speaker 1: All under the Radar and then in kentucky they have
22:50
Speaker 1: him Out in public at keeneland and they're taking. Pictures
22:53
Speaker 1: just You know i'm. Sure lamar it was it. Was
22:57
Speaker 1: fun for him but and then he goes home FOR
22:59
Speaker 1: a Days and i think indiana FANS were unsure what.
23:02
Speaker 1: I what to, Expect Any you know darren devrees flies
23:05
Speaker 1: down there and talks to him. And get THE commitment
23:09
Speaker 1: that was i think just A big moment for debrees
23:13
Speaker 1: in this portal cycle to show that he could Win, A,
23:15
Speaker 1: Recruitment against Kentucky AUBURN ole miss and i think when
23:20
Speaker 1: you're getting a player that those are the. Schools That
23:23
Speaker 1: want him you're you're you're going. In. The right waters
23:26
Speaker 1: right THEY'LL look at the sec the, last couple of
23:30
Speaker 1: years what they've done in college basketball compared. TO the
23:32
Speaker 1: big ten i mean the fact that they're able to
23:34
Speaker 1: land a player that THOSE schools wanted to i think
23:36
Speaker 1: says a lot about what kind of Player They're. Getting.
23:38
Speaker 1: WITH labar wilkerson.
23:40
Speaker 2: Yeah i MEAN you Look At, i, mean walter clayton
23:43
Speaker 2: right they you see what HE Did In the ncaa
23:46
Speaker 2: tournament florida. Winning the national Title, he was at iona
23:51
Speaker 2: right for a couple of Years. Before going to florida
23:54
Speaker 2: there's a certain Kind of Profile Chas lanier from North,
23:58
Speaker 2: florida Going to tennessee even dalton connect. The year before that.
24:03
Speaker 2: This is really good this is. A really good Sign
24:05
Speaker 2: i think that indiana. Beat out those schools but certainly
24:09
Speaker 2: there are no guarantees when IT. Comes to the porl
24:11
Speaker 2: you don't know what a guy is going to be
24:12
Speaker 2: able to produce when they get to, a high major
24:15
Speaker 2: level especially Coming Up from. A sam houston state but
24:18
Speaker 2: In The, CASE of lamar wilkerson i do think that
24:22
Speaker 2: he's going to translate because this kid is about as
24:25
Speaker 2: pure as it gets as a. SCORE in the country
24:28
Speaker 2: i think he was thirteenth nationally in points per game
24:31
Speaker 2: and in terms of shooting the basketball on two hundred.
24:35
Speaker 2: And twenty six attempts he shot forty three percent. FROM
24:39
Speaker 2: beyond the yard i mean that is a big. Breath
24:42
Speaker 2: of fresh air.
24:43
Speaker 1: And everyone he played new he was going. To be
24:45
Speaker 1: shooting right. Everyone was playing new everyone he played new
24:48
Speaker 1: he was going.
24:49
Speaker 2: To be shooting exactly and still he found a. Way
24:52
Speaker 2: to get open he found a way. To get his
24:54
Speaker 2: shots and then he also shot fifty, Percent on twos
24:57
Speaker 2: right so he's comfortable, getting to the lane. Getting around
25:00
Speaker 2: the rim he's, fine as a facilitator but. HE'S definitely
25:04
Speaker 2: score first i do think there's work for him to
25:07
Speaker 2: be done, on THE defensive end but i think a
25:09
Speaker 2: lot of people also forget, he's, six foot five right this.
25:13
Speaker 2: Is a, big GUARD he's big and i think that
25:16
Speaker 2: that trends positively when it comes to the defensive. Side
25:20
Speaker 2: of the ball. GOOD free throw shooter i would like
25:23
Speaker 2: for him to get to the foul line. A little
25:24
Speaker 2: bit more just free throw rate was just. Twenty one
25:27
Speaker 2: point eight he did only attempt, ninety seven free throws
25:31
Speaker 2: but did shoot eighty. THREE percent on them i think
25:33
Speaker 2: that he will get to the Line more, in the
25:36
Speaker 2: big ten just because it's going to he's gonna have
25:38
Speaker 2: a harder time getting to the rim and getting his shot.
25:41
Speaker 2: Off without getting fouled but when you Can, beat out
25:44
Speaker 2: of kentucky you Can beat out at auburn For A,
25:47
Speaker 2: PLAYER like lamar wilkerson i think THAT'S really impressive and
25:51
Speaker 2: i think IT also stood out i. THINK you listened
25:53
Speaker 2: to i think it was in the interview that He
25:56
Speaker 2: did with the field of sixty eight Where He said
25:59
Speaker 2: that darren devrees flew down there to see, him before
26:06
Speaker 2: he committed to basically make a final pitch or ploy
26:10
Speaker 2: to get HIM. To COME to iu and i think
26:13
Speaker 2: that's always really nice to see in a really good sign,
26:17
Speaker 2: on the recruiting trail especially so early. ON in His
26:21
Speaker 2: tenure i think devrees is putting IN the work and
26:25
Speaker 2: i think they've kind of identified a certain archetype of.
26:29
Speaker 2: THE player, they want i mean you're. Looking at these
26:31
Speaker 2: guys all of them have this kind of chip. On
26:35
Speaker 2: their shoulder mentality THREE of, them are juco guys One Of,
26:39
Speaker 2: them Being Lamar wilkerson of jason drake who committed the
26:44
Speaker 2: other day have SPENT, a year At Juco and Then Josi,
26:47
Speaker 2: miles from north florida who we haven't talked, about yet AS. Well,
26:52
Speaker 2: WAS at juco so i mean this is things are
26:56
Speaker 2: trending in a positive direction with the. Recruiting side of
26:59
Speaker 2: things it's always really nice to hear when you have
27:01
Speaker 2: a head coach that goes out of their way to
27:04
Speaker 2: prioritize a player and makes them feel comfortable and like
27:08
Speaker 2: they're making a good decision in. Coming TO your School
27:12
Speaker 2: And i think lamar wilkerson is going to be a
27:14
Speaker 2: HOME run player. For. IU next year.
27:17
Speaker 1: Yeah i think that also resonated with the fan base
27:20
Speaker 1: because it kind of seemed like the opposite of something
27:22
Speaker 1: that the previous head coach would have done in terms
27:25
Speaker 1: of going down. TO close, the deal i mean there
27:27
Speaker 1: was obviously a lot Said And written about mike woodson
27:30
Speaker 1: and kind of, his Approach to recruiting whereas derees seems
27:34
Speaker 1: to be grinding it out on a day to day
27:36
Speaker 1: basis as he. Builds OUT this roster so i think
27:38
Speaker 1: that Excited a. LOT of indiana fans a couple more guys.
27:41
Speaker 1: HERE to talk about i think going In Chronological order
27:44
Speaker 1: to josiah. Miles was the next but. WE had a
27:47
Speaker 1: situation i think it was what last was maybe we
27:49
Speaker 1: could go today where we had a commitment at, nine
27:51
Speaker 1: to twenty pm and then we had another one at
27:53
Speaker 1: eleven twenty, Eight pm at night so it was it
27:57
Speaker 1: was kind of succession two in A row There With.
27:59
Speaker 1: Miles and tayton connor wait what just talking about? Both
28:02
Speaker 1: of those guys what Do you Like? About miles and conorway.
28:06
Speaker 2: We, can START with connorway because, I. LOVE that, kid
28:10
Speaker 2: alex i mean if, you WATCH his, tape he i
28:13
Speaker 2: mean he is by far MY favorite edition for iu.
28:17
Speaker 2: In the transfer portal We already talked, about Connor enright
28:22
Speaker 2: defensively taking conorway was probably the best defensive guard available,
28:27
Speaker 2: in the transfer Portal at least. When indiana got, him
28:31
Speaker 2: in my opinion he, tastes takes some risk but at
28:34
Speaker 2: six foot three hundred, and eighty six pounds He Was
28:37
Speaker 2: a sun Belt. Player of the year he was third in.
28:39
Speaker 2: The nation in steels, he's got, long arms he's, aggressive
28:44
Speaker 2: and then offensively he's got, an excellent quick burst great,
28:49
Speaker 2: north and south speed. He can get downhill he's not
28:53
Speaker 2: the best spot up, shooter IN the world but i
28:56
Speaker 2: you's not going to need him to be with the
28:58
Speaker 2: type of. Player they've added around if you can just
29:00
Speaker 2: get connorway into the lane and he, can make good
29:04
Speaker 2: choices which. He did last year he's going to be
29:07
Speaker 2: a really fun player for. These guys to play around
29:10
Speaker 2: four point, eight assists per game he only turned it
29:13
Speaker 2: over under, three times a game and they were also
29:16
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent on twos for a skinny. Six y three.
29:20
Speaker 2: GUARD that's, really impressive i mean you watch. Some of
29:23
Speaker 2: his tape the way he's able to find some of
29:25
Speaker 2: these angles around the basket and hang in the air
29:29
Speaker 2: and lay something tough off the glass or. Make a tough,
29:33
Speaker 2: pass IT'S really impressive and i think those kind of
29:37
Speaker 2: things translate to high major play If You're the sun belt, player,
29:42
Speaker 2: OF the YEAR right i mean I covered the sun
29:45
Speaker 2: Belt player of the year. From The previous year Terrence
29:48
Speaker 2: edwards junior at. Louisville this past Season He was at.
29:52
Speaker 2: James madison before coming certainly there were, limitations to his
29:56
Speaker 2: game but he Was a third, team all acc guy
29:59
Speaker 2: second leading score, or on The, ROSTER and by march i,
30:02
Speaker 2: mean he Was cookie especially when hepburn was kind of
30:05
Speaker 2: dealing with a groin issue and he took over some of.
30:08
Speaker 2: The point guard duties so that Is, A REALLY good
30:10
Speaker 2: league and i think you Have a guy in connorway
30:13
Speaker 2: who is the head. Of THE snake defensively if I
30:17
Speaker 2: Know that's something mike woodson, will say a lot but
30:20
Speaker 2: he will get after it and then he can. Also
30:22
Speaker 2: RUN the show and i think if you, also watch
30:24
Speaker 2: his tape you'll see a guy who plays with, a
30:26
Speaker 2: lot of fire, a lot of passion and. He WANTS
30:30
Speaker 2: to win and i think to be a Point Guard
30:32
Speaker 2: in the big ten you.
30:33
Speaker 1: Have, To have that yeah and you saw what a
30:37
Speaker 1: player who can control the game defensively could Do last
30:40
Speaker 1: season At Louisville when when. Katy HEPBURN came over so
30:44
Speaker 1: i think does that have a little bit to do
30:46
Speaker 1: with why you're Excited in, TERMS of connorway's.
30:48
Speaker 2: IMPACT i THINK so i think i. Don't think he
30:52
Speaker 2: may he may not have the Exact same production that
30:54
Speaker 2: chuck he had defense that'd.
30:56
Speaker 1: Be, hard to do yeah fifteen player in, all of
30:58
Speaker 1: college basketball you had. That type of production and Then
31:01
Speaker 1: you're talking about indiana, as a you know a exact,
31:03
Speaker 1: team or, beyond team.
31:05
Speaker 2: So Exactly but acc Defensive, player of the year a
31:09
Speaker 2: guy who some players they just have, a, Knack for
31:12
Speaker 2: it right they just have a really good, FEEL for,
31:14
Speaker 2: the game i think especially you see in some, point
31:17
Speaker 2: guards they do, and his Aggressiveness Defensively this is. Connorway
31:22
Speaker 2: i'm talking about it can put him in some, difficult
31:25
Speaker 2: spots at times but he loves a good pick pocket
31:30
Speaker 2: and he's just so handsy and aggressive and he plays.
31:33
Speaker 2: All the correct angles he's just really. Fun TO watch
31:37
Speaker 2: defend and i think you watch a GUY like at
31:39
Speaker 2: Least I did in, chucky heppern run, around defend multiple
31:43
Speaker 2: positions be, so Aggressive And active and pat kelcey basically
31:48
Speaker 2: let him roam free and just wreck havoc. AND it,
31:51
Speaker 2: Worked right i mean louisville is a top thirty defensive,
31:53
Speaker 2: team in The nation and if connorway has anywhere close
31:57
Speaker 2: to that, kind of impact defensively it's going to be.
32:00
Speaker 2: Really fun To Watch.
32:01
Speaker 1: WHAT about josiah miles i, like him a lot just
32:04
Speaker 1: from the. Potential that he HAS it's a fifteen i
32:08
Speaker 1: think point per game Score Last, year in north florida
32:10
Speaker 1: and also the fact that he has. Multiple years of
32:12
Speaker 1: eligibility that's not something that many of these guys that.
32:15
Speaker 1: They've PICKED up have so i think he can be
32:17
Speaker 1: a guy that whether he starts or comes off, the
32:19
Speaker 1: bench next season he's a guy you. HAVE for two
32:21
Speaker 1: years i. THINK that's, important too.
32:23
Speaker 2: I mean he took two hundred and Twenty Four. Threes
32:27
Speaker 2: At North, florida IN north florida they i believe they
32:31
Speaker 2: shot the highest volume. Right in the country so he's
32:37
Speaker 2: obviously not going to shoot over two hundred Threes next
32:40
Speaker 2: season at indiana with THE OTHER players, That i u
32:43
Speaker 2: has but he was seventy seven percentile. And spot up
32:47
Speaker 2: shooting and then you also. Look at his, frame he's,
32:49
Speaker 2: pretty big six six. Two hundred five pounds you mentioned
32:53
Speaker 2: that he has multiple. Years of eligibility left he had
32:56
Speaker 2: a great improvement from his freshman To Sophomore year at
33:02
Speaker 2: north florida nine point seven point average increase and a
33:09
Speaker 2: lot of growth in. That year for HIM but the
33:12
Speaker 2: thing i like most of all about him is. He's
33:15
Speaker 2: a tenacious rebounder six point eight rebounds a game that
33:19
Speaker 2: was second On The, team at north florida and at
33:22
Speaker 2: his size, at six foot. Six that's really impressive and
33:26
Speaker 2: if you can find a roll Off The bench for
33:28
Speaker 2: josy miles as a knockdown three point shooter with some size.
33:33
Speaker 2: And a good rebounder he's going to be hard to,
33:36
Speaker 2: keep off the floor and he's going. TO find playing
33:39
Speaker 2: time i think. His upside is there he's definitely got
33:42
Speaker 2: room to improve. As a ball handler. The ball skills stuff,
33:46
Speaker 2: HE'S not quite there i think at the high major
33:49
Speaker 2: level in terms. Of playmaking for himself but he's not
33:52
Speaker 2: going to have, to, BE next, year right i mean
33:54
Speaker 2: he's got a, couple of years left so there's time
33:58
Speaker 2: for him to figure these things out in A Conference.
34:01
Speaker 2: Like the big ten and then also you talk about, the,
34:04
Speaker 2: straight line drives right him just, cutting to, the basket
34:07
Speaker 2: being physical being able to put the ball, down on
34:10
Speaker 2: the floor and making aggressive. Play at the rim he.
34:13
Speaker 2: Certainly can do that fifty five point six percent on
34:16
Speaker 2: twos and the three. Point volume stands out you may
34:22
Speaker 2: look at his, percentage, and you see okay he. Shot thirty,
34:24
Speaker 2: three percent you know if we're if we WANT a
34:26
Speaker 2: three and d guy, who's six foot six we could
34:29
Speaker 2: do a little. Bit BETTER than that but i think
34:32
Speaker 2: on two hundred and twenty four attempts and a lot of,
34:35
Speaker 2: those coming you, know off the dribble which he's not
34:39
Speaker 2: going to have As many opportunities. At indiana next season
34:44
Speaker 2: it's definitely a good trajectory for. HIM to be on
34:48
Speaker 2: i hate calling. GUYS like him projects i, think that's
34:52
Speaker 2: an overstatement but out Of the guys that, indiana has
34:56
Speaker 2: brought in he certainly is the biggest project of them
35:01
Speaker 2: all because they're going to have to work with. Them
35:03
Speaker 2: on some things but there's plenty of potential and room
35:08
Speaker 2: for growth because he's not just going to be. There for.
35:10
Speaker 2: ONE year, that's right.
35:13
Speaker 1: I mean a guy That scores, fifteen at division one
35:16
Speaker 1: if that's kind of your your guy that you have
35:18
Speaker 1: to work, with a little bit that's that's a pretty good.
35:20
Speaker 1: Starting place to have the, other Thing about him and
35:23
Speaker 1: i've talked to him and right in the next last
35:26
Speaker 1: guy we're Going To. Talk about jason drake all, three
35:29
Speaker 1: of those guys they genuinely seem excited and bought into
35:34
Speaker 1: the idea of the team concept, just from you know
35:38
Speaker 1: having a conversation with them And kind of. What derais
35:40
Speaker 1: is building they want to be part of a team
35:43
Speaker 1: that shares the, ball and, you know plays together and
35:46
Speaker 1: they all kind OF said THAT when i when. I
35:48
Speaker 1: spoke to him so that's the other, thing about, HIM
35:50
Speaker 1: is you know i don't think he's going to average Fifteen.
35:52
Speaker 1: A game in indiana but if he can be a
35:54
Speaker 1: guy coming off the, bench that, gives you you know
35:56
Speaker 1: six or seven points and has an occasional game, where
35:59
Speaker 1: he you know he gets hot and hit, THREE or
36:00
Speaker 1: four three's i think that's what you want. Out of
36:02
Speaker 1: the him you can't, ever have enough offense. Particularly off the,
36:05
Speaker 1: bench and who knows maybe he's a guy that. Does
36:08
Speaker 1: start some. Games we don't know we got to see how.
36:09
Speaker 1: This all pans out but HE'S a guy that i
36:12
Speaker 1: think has.
36:12
Speaker 2: A TON of potential and i think he's another guy
36:16
Speaker 2: when you talk about the kind of, chip on, their
36:18
Speaker 2: shoulder blue collar lunch pale type player that is comfortable being.
36:26
Speaker 2: PUT in a role i think that is an underrated
36:31
Speaker 2: the aspect when it comes to modern day college basketball
36:35
Speaker 2: and recruiting, a lot of, people, It's just talent right
36:38
Speaker 2: let's just accumulate the most talent possible and then they
36:42
Speaker 2: can we. Can, make it, work then you know that's not.
36:44
Speaker 2: Always how it works sometimes you need a guy who's
36:47
Speaker 2: comfortable just BEING a three and d and rebounding and
36:51
Speaker 2: coming off the bench and being A defensive spark and
36:54
Speaker 2: i Think you, look at connor enright And You. Look
36:56
Speaker 2: at josy miles those guys, fit that perfectly well also
37:00
Speaker 2: having room to improve and grow in their individual aspects.
37:04
Speaker 2: As PLAYMAKERS and players so i think it's really important to.
37:09
Speaker 2: IDENTIFY guys like that, i mean you look you look
37:13
Speaker 2: at the guys that this fan base. CONNECTED with most
37:18
Speaker 2: Recently I, THINK of anthony Leal I, THINK of luke
37:21
Speaker 2: Goody I Think. OF tray jackson davis i Even think
37:25
Speaker 2: of a, Miller, Cop At. Times galloway drey galloway those
37:30
Speaker 2: are all guys who could, do multiple things well but
37:33
Speaker 2: they fit A Role Besides maybe tray jackson davis of,
37:37
Speaker 2: course in that conversation and, they fit a role and
37:40
Speaker 2: they were, comfortable with that role and they knew what
37:42
Speaker 2: they were supposed to do. And THEY did it and
37:45
Speaker 2: i think this fan base has a certain appreciation for,
37:48
Speaker 2: those kind of players and the Kind Of guys that darren,
37:51
Speaker 2: DEVREZ is bringing in i think a lot of. Them
37:53
Speaker 2: fit THAT standard.
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Speaker 1: Last guy i want to want TO get to before,
37:57
Speaker 1: I Let, you go jason drake who if we had
38:00
Speaker 1: this conversation a week ago and no one would have
38:01
Speaker 1: been talking about his news of his visit, broke earlier
38:05
Speaker 1: this week and he gets on campus makes. A commitment
38:07
Speaker 1: shortly after he's another guy that's kind of grinded his
38:10
Speaker 1: way up through. The college Basketball Ranks, started at CLEVELAND state,
38:13
Speaker 1: went the juco route then had a really solid Year.
38:16
Speaker 1: Last year at drexel and he's, another guy, that has
38:20
Speaker 1: you know a couple. Of years of eligibility so he's
38:24
Speaker 1: a guy that you could maybe, say the, first year
38:26
Speaker 1: you know this is going, to be your role but
38:28
Speaker 1: you have a chance to step into a bigger role,
38:30
Speaker 1: maybe in year two but already a guy that's Proven
38:32
Speaker 1: himself at. THE division one level i think he averaged
38:34
Speaker 1: over twelve points over three rebounds. OF her three assists
38:38
Speaker 1: i know you did a breakdown, on him most recently
38:40
Speaker 1: so sure he's still. Fresh in your mind what did
38:43
Speaker 1: you like about his game and what you saw? From
38:44
Speaker 1: him ON film.
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Speaker 2: Biggest thing i liked. ABOUT it, his mentality i mean
38:50
Speaker 2: this is a Kid He goes to cleveland. STATE for
38:51
Speaker 2: a year i actually read the interview you, put out
38:54
Speaker 2: with him and you know things don't. Go well for,
38:58
Speaker 2: him he wasn't playing he didn't necessarily fit in with
39:04
Speaker 2: the system, there then he's, Like you know what i'm.
39:06
Speaker 2: Gonna take some time i'm Going To Go to butler Community,
39:09
Speaker 2: college Out in kansas and i'm going to. Work on
39:12
Speaker 2: my skills he only averaged nine points A game, at
39:16
Speaker 2: the juco level but he did enough to prove to
39:19
Speaker 2: people that he Could PLAY at. The division ie Level,
39:22
Speaker 2: he goes to drexel A, team in the cia which
39:26
Speaker 2: you know they've had, their ups and downs but a
39:28
Speaker 2: program that has Produced Some guys a marii, williams came
39:31
Speaker 2: from There who was at kentucky last season and was
39:35
Speaker 2: one of the better rim. Runners in the country And You,
39:38
Speaker 2: look at jason drake he's kind of that do it all.
39:42
Speaker 2: Depth piece point guard he can run the. Pick and
39:45
Speaker 2: roll effectively he's, effective on the perimeter shot just under
39:50
Speaker 2: forty percent from three eighty seven percent, from the foul
39:53
Speaker 2: line more than. Capable as a shooter and then he's
39:57
Speaker 2: got a good assist rate twenty seven point six that
40:00
Speaker 2: was SIXTH. Highest in the cia and then he's also
40:03
Speaker 2: a bit of a bulldog in transition who loves. To
40:06
Speaker 2: push the pace fourteen percent of his. BASKETS came in
40:10
Speaker 2: transition i don't think When We're. Talking about jason drake,
40:13
Speaker 2: we're not, talking about you know the Starting point guard.
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Speaker 2: IN indiana next season. I know we're not we're, not
40:18
Speaker 2: talking about that. But you said it multiple years of
40:21
Speaker 2: eligibility of REMAINING because, of the juco ruling he's got
40:24
Speaker 2: to be. A valuable, depth piece and again you look
40:28
Speaker 2: At The guards that darren, DeVries has brought in they
40:31
Speaker 2: all kind of, fit. This certain mold right they've all got,
40:36
Speaker 2: this good assist, rate low turnover rate can, Shoot the
40:40
Speaker 2: basketball well, they're capable from distance and they've all kind
40:45
Speaker 2: of got that underdog mentality and that little bit of.
40:49
Speaker 2: An EDGE to them and i think to play point
40:53
Speaker 2: guard At a school like Indiana And, in the big
40:56
Speaker 2: ten that's. Kind Of A necessity and jason drake was
41:01
Speaker 2: basically a. Do it all player he's got. A good
41:04
Speaker 2: tool kit he's not going to. LIGHT it up offensively
41:07
Speaker 2: i don't think he'll ever be that kind of player,
41:10
Speaker 2: at the college level but another guy that you can,
41:13
Speaker 2: fit into a role and he's comfortable. BEING in that role.
41:18
Speaker 1: I loved how HE talked about and i didn't. Even
41:21
Speaker 1: bring this up he just brought it, Up on his
41:23
Speaker 1: own like Growing up rooting for michigan and the fact
41:26
Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to Now Play, in
41:27
Speaker 1: the big ten like that was always. A dream of
41:29
Speaker 1: it like, that's cool to hear, like because you know
41:32
Speaker 1: covering recruiting FOR as, long as, I have you know
41:33
Speaker 1: i've talked to plenty of kids like ranked, anywhere from
41:37
Speaker 1: you know. THE five star kids i remember One Time.
41:39
Speaker 1: TALKING to kyrie irving I Remember talking To tim priler when.
41:42
Speaker 1: India Had recruited him so i've kind of talked to.
41:45
Speaker 1: Every type of prospect but the fact that he brought
41:49
Speaker 1: that up in terms of it being a dream for
41:51
Speaker 1: him To Be, in the big ten you don't necessarily
41:52
Speaker 1: hear that a lot from. A lot, of kids i
41:56
Speaker 1: mean it's a lot of kids expect maybe that they're
41:59
Speaker 1: going to be going to. The highest high level he
42:02
Speaker 1: actually probably that was something he thought about as, a
42:06
Speaker 1: high school kid and now he's actually going to get.
42:09
Speaker 1: To live that out and He Mentioned playing against michigan
42:11
Speaker 1: State And walking into assembly. HALL and, That feeling i mean,
42:14
Speaker 1: i'm sure You Know, playing at Cleveland, state playing At,
42:16
Speaker 1: juco playing At Drexel walking into assembly hall was special for,
42:20
Speaker 1: him because you know he's felt. Like HE finally arrived
42:23
Speaker 1: and i feel like just all of these guys coming
42:26
Speaker 1: from where they all have, their own different path. Their
42:28
Speaker 1: OWN different story but i think a, lot most of
42:31
Speaker 1: them if, not all of them are going to feel
42:33
Speaker 1: appreciative just for the opportunity to play At, a PROGRAM
42:35
Speaker 1: like indiana whereas i don't necessarily think we could say
42:38
Speaker 1: that about everyone that's come in the. Last couple of
42:40
Speaker 1: years and this is.
42:42
Speaker 2: Where you go back And You listen to darren. Devreeze's
42:46
Speaker 2: introductory press, conference you, talked about you know when it comes,
42:50
Speaker 2: to assembling a roster there's certain things besides player talent
42:57
Speaker 2: level and role that. You have to consider what kind of?
43:00
Speaker 2: People are they are what kind of guy are they
43:03
Speaker 2: going to be? In the locker room are they gonna
43:05
Speaker 2: love playing? In the candy stripes is that something that's going?
43:08
Speaker 2: To MATTER to them and i think you look across
43:11
Speaker 2: the board at the kind of players that, THEY'VE gotten so,
43:15
Speaker 2: far i think most if not all of them. Fit
43:18
Speaker 2: INTO that mold and i think that's a really underrated
43:22
Speaker 2: valuable aspect when it, Comes to acquiring, players because, you
43:28
Speaker 2: mentioned you know guys who they love, playing for a
43:31
Speaker 2: team right they want to be. In a team environment
43:34
Speaker 2: they want to be at a place where the team
43:36
Speaker 2: is above all and, you share the basketball, play for,
43:41
Speaker 2: each other play together play for the name on the, front.
43:43
Speaker 2: OF the jersey right i mean That's kind of what
43:46
Speaker 2: indiana is about and has been about in the entire.
43:50
Speaker 2: History OF the program and i think you know that
43:52
Speaker 2: he identifies that that's important to people, in this fan
43:56
Speaker 2: base and he's finding players where that's important.
43:59
Speaker 1: To, Them, for sure well duram where can people read?
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Speaker 1: Your your stuff now?
44:06
Speaker 2: And get YOUR newsletter go on x At eight or,
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Speaker 2: four duram as always and Then the Newsletter On substack
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Speaker 2: Inside indiana. BASKETBALL with william McDermott i probably need to
44:20
Speaker 2: come up with a. Little, bit, of matter yeah shorter.
44:23
Speaker 2: Shorter name than that maybe you'll work on that in the.
44:27
Speaker 2: Next COUPLE of weeks but. I post the breakdowns I've
44:30
Speaker 2: got little Videos i'll post on twitter and in the
44:33
Speaker 2: sub stack as well on each of these guys, that that,
44:38
Speaker 2: are about you know one to two minutes, long on
44:40
Speaker 2: their film post some column type STUFF on there where
44:44
Speaker 2: i give, my take, on things and uh if you
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Speaker 2: want to check, IT out And join i think i'm
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Speaker 2: just a few subscribers, away from one hundred which is. Always,
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Speaker 2: A big milestone hu i've only been doing, it for
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Speaker 2: you know seven eight months, since the season started so it's,
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Speaker 2: been it's been FUN and it's always I love talking
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45:07
Speaker 2: matter where i am so IT'S always something that. I,
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Speaker 2: love talking about well.
45:12
Speaker 1: It's good, to, Talk to you man proud of everything
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Speaker 1: that you've been able to accomplish and just a little
45:17
Speaker 1: less than a year, ago what you're graduating so. How
45:21
Speaker 1: time flies now awesome that you've had success. WITH the
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