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Chiefs blow it vs. Jaguars, Giannis-Knicks trade rumors, ESPN-Paul Finebaum dilemma | 10.07 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: to talk a little NBA in just a moment. Also
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  Speaker 1: take your voicemails. So Monday night, the Chiefs played against
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars. And I got to tell you, man, it
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  Speaker 1: was really looking like the Chiefs were heading right back
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  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl until they fuck around and lost.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know any other way to put that.
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  Speaker 1: The Mahomes pick six, for example, that was, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: fucking around, man.
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  Speaker 2: Just got caught up in that.
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  Speaker 1: It looked, and Ryan, you tell me if I'm crazy, man,
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  Speaker 1: but it was looking like the Chiefs of your youth
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  Speaker 1: a little early there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you get out to early 14-point lead
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  Speaker 3: Mahomes is throwing the ball over the field. Xavier Worthy
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  Speaker 3: is looking good. And this is the exact sort of
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  Speaker 3: game they won every time last year and seem to
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  Speaker 3: lose every time this year. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I want you to tell me what you think
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  Speaker 1: about this right fast, because I think that we've talked
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  Speaker 1: a lot about the Chiefs and the lack of weaponry
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  Speaker 1: that they had given Mahomes over time.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's fair.
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  Speaker 1: But either Taequann Thornton, Hollywood Brown or Xavier Worthy is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the number three receiver.
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  Speaker 2: For this team.
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  Speaker 1: That to me sounds like a very good receiving core.
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  Speaker 3: I knew you have to remember after in two weeks,
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  Speaker 3: they're getting Rasheed Rice back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And once every month or so, you'll probably get a
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  Speaker 1: good game out of Travis Kelsey. They got a touchdown
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  Speaker 1: last night. In fact, and that's no, he just, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: like it amazes me how we just completely ignored it.
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  Speaker 1: These cats get old.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of the like five or six NFL players
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  Speaker 3: older than me.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: How about this? If I'm not mistaken, He's older than Gronk.
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  Speaker 3: They're almost exactly the same age. And Gronk is almost
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  Speaker 3: about to be eligible for the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was about to say.
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  Speaker 3: He retired twice.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: If he had stuck out the first retirement, right?
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  Speaker 3: He'd be in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: If he came back in 2020, he would be in
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  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And Travis Kelsey is still playing football. Now,
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  Speaker 1: also of note, Rob Gronkowski played like three, four seasons
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  Speaker 1: before Travis Kelsey caught a pass.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he came out super early, right?
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  Speaker 2: He came out young.
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  Speaker 1: Kelsey was in school as an older guy and then
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  Speaker 1: missed the first season with an injury, right? So we
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  Speaker 1: get these weird quirks. But anyway, the other thing that
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  Speaker 1: was like, damn, the Chiefs just got fucked around and lost. Travis,
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  Speaker 1: not Travis, Trevor Lawrence. It's one thing when I call
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  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, Jordan Jefferson, because Jordan Jefferson is his brother.
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  Speaker 2: That's who we met first.
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  Speaker 1: But if I call Trevor Lawrence, Travis Lawrence, that, that,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my dad wouldn't even do that. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: if you did not see the touchdown where the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: won this game, Trevor Lawrence, one of his two rushing touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, Trevor Lawrence drops back and falls down.
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  Speaker 2: Dropping back. But nobody touched him.
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  Speaker 1: And so he gets up and it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: chaotic scramble. It doesn't appear that he even bothered to
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  Speaker 1: look to see if perhaps there was a pass for
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  Speaker 1: him to throw. He got up and I mean, Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence is a fairly athletic chap, but I mean, he's
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  Speaker 1: not Michael Vick. He got up and he put everything
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  Speaker 1: together and he went in and he scored a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if anybody on the internet has
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  Speaker 1: put any music to that video. Back when you could
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  Speaker 1: talk about Kanye in front of people, it was the
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  Speaker 1: father stretched my hands joint for those kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: If you wanted to go real old school, because I
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  Speaker 1: need some ironic triumphant music for what went on. I don't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a younger sibling and therefore you have
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  Speaker 1: different kinds of events and things that happen in your
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  Speaker 1: life as a younger sibling. And every now and then
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  Speaker 1: you got to like, try to run away.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like my siblings are way older, so they was never
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  Speaker 1: going to do anything terrible to me. But at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, you don't really know this. And when you
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  Speaker 1: running away, when you fall down and have to get up,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like you're moving like molasses trying to get
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  Speaker 1: it back together because the stakes are so high. It's
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  Speaker 1: not even so much about how fast you're actually moving.
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  Speaker 1: It's about everything relative to the sphere of the world
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  Speaker 1: that you happen to be in in that moment. I
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  Speaker 1: cannot imagine how panicked and terrified and how slowly Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence felt like he was moving when he was trying
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  Speaker 1: to get up after falling down.
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  Speaker 2: Because I don't care what nobody say.
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  Speaker 1: I can't imagine having to go back into that locker
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  Speaker 1: room having to say, sorry about that, fellas.
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  Speaker 2: I just tripped over my shoelaces. I'll make sure I
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  Speaker 2: tie them next time.
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  Speaker 1: We got a chance to go out here and win
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  Speaker 1: the game right now. And we don't win it because
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  Speaker 1: I feel down. Now, on the other hand, imagine what
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  Speaker 1: it's like being any of those Kansas City Chiefs who
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  Speaker 1: have now realized that Trevor Lawrence has fallen down and
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  Speaker 1: it might.
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  Speaker 4: Be your chance to be a hero, to go make
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  Speaker 4: that move. But what if you made that move and
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  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence got up and he ran right where you
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  Speaker 4: were supposed to be, but you thought you had your chance?
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  Speaker 4: I could just see thought bubbles for everybody in that
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  Speaker 4: moment as it happens.
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  Speaker 1: And then Trevor Lawrence scores the touchdown. And then Trevor
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence thought bubble turns into had it all the way.
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  Speaker 1: And the Chiefs thought bubbles turn to, damn, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: not going to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Like, Ryan, you think they're going to make the playoffs?
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  Speaker 3: I do. I just, they have a tough schedule, but
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  Speaker 3: the AFC is bad. there, there's a lot of teams
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  Speaker 3: you can almost go through and cross off already. We're not,
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  Speaker 3: we're not even to, you know, well, this is starting
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  Speaker 3: to start getting into the holidays of October yet, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is, yeah. I mean, do you believe,
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  Speaker 3: do you like, even in that own division, do you
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  Speaker 3: believe in the chargers? No offensive linemen. Do you believe
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  Speaker 3: in Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 1: You got, you hit, you hit it right there. That's
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  Speaker 1: what I was about to say. We're talking about whether
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  Speaker 1: or not they're going to go to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If you watched the chargers play Washington, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: On Sunday, you feel like the Chiefs are going to
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  Speaker 1: win the division.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, in spite of going on the
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  Speaker 1: road and beating the Eagles and scoring 18 points in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, I do not think there was very
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  Speaker 1: much encouraging that came out of that, to me at least.
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  Speaker 2: For Broncos-Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I felt like the Eagles lost that game, but
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  Speaker 1: I did not come away from that thinking, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I've been wrong about the Broncos, and I damn
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  Speaker 1: sure didn't come away from it feeling like I was
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  Speaker 1: wrong about Bo Nix. Like, I'm out here having to
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  Speaker 1: try to, you know, entertain some possibilities with Baker Mayfield
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  Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 2: I still cannot believe they have played their way out
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  Speaker 2: of Journeyman.
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  Speaker 1: Even Geno Smith didn't really play his way out of
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  Speaker 1: Journeyman because he went on another journey right after he had, like.
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  Speaker 2: Got, and now he out here looking like the Journeyman.
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  Speaker 3: Journey might be over soon.
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  Speaker 2: I say the end of the end of the road
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  Speaker 2: is what it's looking like over there right now.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's just because he's like, dude, I
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  Speaker 1: play with bums and I got to somebody got to
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  Speaker 1: do something. I feel like he I feel like he
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  Speaker 1: taking one for the team right now because I can't
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  Speaker 1: see how he got so bad so fast after being
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  Speaker 1: I thought very good last year.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Bo Nix falls into, I think, where you
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  Speaker 3: and I have a similar bias, which is players who
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  Speaker 3: are not good in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him be not good for those whole three years.
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  Speaker 2: Bo Nix is as old as Travis Kelsey. I hope
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  Speaker 2: he figures some shit out by now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. There are.
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  Speaker 3: Bo Nix is old enough. We need to keep him
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  Speaker 3: away from Mark Sanchez.
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  Speaker 1: Yo, there's something very interesting that happens when you watch
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  Speaker 1: a guy play too much college football. Like, I think
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  Speaker 1: for real this happened with Jimmy Johnson and Troy Aikman. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they drafted Troy Aikman with the number one pick and
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  Speaker 1: then drafted Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months after that because Jimmy's boys broke Troy's leg.
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  Speaker 2: Right? In that game.
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  Speaker 1: And Jimmy had been watching Troy since he was in
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  Speaker 1: high school because Jimmy coached at Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 3: You know too much.
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  Speaker 1: I think he knew too much. But I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we're wrong in this about Bo Nix. Like every now
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  Speaker 1: and then I see Bo Nix make like a flash play.
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  Speaker 1: But what I think Bo Nix is when it really
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  Speaker 1: comes down to it, he has an offensive genius head
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  Speaker 1: coach who I think believes that his system can figure
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  Speaker 1: out what to do with a quarterback if they have
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  Speaker 1: insert traits here. And Bo Nix has those traits, and
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  Speaker 1: he thinks that, okay, we can work this out in
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  Speaker 1: what I do.
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  Speaker 3: And you hear Sean Payton talk about what he liked
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  Speaker 3: about Bo Nix so much. He said he didn't turn
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  Speaker 3: the ball over and take sacks, which is code speak
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  Speaker 3: for he does what I'll tell him to do.
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  Speaker 2: He does what I'll tell him to do, but let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest about this.
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  Speaker 1: Drew Brees is the highest echelon system quarterback ever. like
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  Speaker 1: he got it together at the end in San Diego
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  Speaker 1: right I don't want to pretend like he didn't and
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  Speaker 1: I think it was running a North Turner offense like
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  Speaker 1: getting toward the end too so I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: pretend like he never had anything going to San Diego
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  Speaker 1: right but go look at the offense Drew Brees ran
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  Speaker 1: at Purdue go look how it started in the NFL
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  Speaker 1: where it was so bad that he won comeback player
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  Speaker 1: of the year in 2004 and the wasn't an injury.
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  Speaker 1: And then go look at what it was when he
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  Speaker 1: got with Sean Payton. That Sean Payton offense that he
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  Speaker 1: was running looked a lot like what they were doing
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  Speaker 1: at Purdue, which is a super-duper system quarterback offense. That's
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  Speaker 1: not shade to Drew Brees. He is a no-brainer Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Famer who somehow figured out how to make his
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  Speaker 1: neck longer. There's no way his neck was always that long.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing. Every quarterback who is under
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  Speaker 3: 6'2 is a system quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: Or super athlete.
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  Speaker 3: Or super, super athlete, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But Drew Brees is out there on his toenails with
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  Speaker 1: his neck all the way up, looking over the lines
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  Speaker 1: and making it happen. And so I think with Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 1: Sean Payton sees a guy like, oh, if he'll just
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  Speaker 1: do what I tell him, then we can make everything work.
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  Speaker 1: But to get that back to the Chiefs, the way
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  Speaker 1: things are stacking up for the Chiefs right now, them
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  Speaker 1: going to the playoffs, yeah, they're going to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go ahead and say it right now.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to win this. the AFC West. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if they're going to have the
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  Speaker 1: number one overall seed. That appears to be.
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  Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts.
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  Speaker 3: You get to play the Titans twice. You know, that helps.
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  Speaker 1: Titans twice, Texans twice, and honestly, you could do worse
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  Speaker 1: than a couple of games against the Jags.
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: But no, look, I mean, How do you feel about
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  Speaker 1: the fact that Buffalo can't stop nobody from running the ball?
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  Speaker 3: And also, I mean, we thought, you know, Bill's Ravens
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  Speaker 3: opening Sunday night of the season was a match between
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  Speaker 3: two Titans.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was not.
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  Speaker 3: And it turns out the Ravens are not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the juggernauts we thought they were.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hold on.
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  Speaker 1: To be fair, though, the version of the Ravens that
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  Speaker 1: we see now is not the version of the Ravens that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the offense is... you know, the, but that
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  Speaker 3: defense is obviously.
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  Speaker 2: The defense is Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: You are correct.
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  Speaker 6: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: You, you are right. They are right.
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  Speaker 1: They, they, the Chiefs have taken charitable contributions. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that Chiefs, the Ravens, they're taking the Chiefs too, but
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  Speaker 1: they're taking them charitable contributions on defense. You are correct,
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  Speaker 1: but there's nothing. The bright side for the Chiefs is
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing that says that you can't come out of
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  Speaker 1: that conference.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing at all.
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  Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you mentioned the idea that the
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  Speaker 1: AFC isn't good because this is I forget who I
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  Speaker 1: saw mentioned this online many months ago, but this is
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  Speaker 1: becoming a mirroring of the 80s and 90s where the
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  Speaker 1: AFC has the quarterbacks, but the NFC has the teams.
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  Speaker 1: Like all the top notch quarterbacks that we talk about
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  Speaker 1: in the league, they all play in the AFC. Who's
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  Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the NFC? I mean, the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: playing the best in the NFC this year is Dak Prescott.
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  Speaker 1: But if you were just to go through the NFC
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  Speaker 1: and say, what quarterback are you giving me off of
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  Speaker 1: these teams?
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  Speaker 2: What's the one you're taking? Is it possibly Stafford?
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  Speaker 3: It's Stafford by reputation and Hurts by accomplishments.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I mean, go up and down. Go
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  Speaker 2: up and down.
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  Speaker 1: It's a weird, weird conference when they start talking about
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  Speaker 1: who the quarterbacks are, and what you can get out
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  Speaker 1: of them.
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  Speaker 2: Is it Baker Mayfield?
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I thought when you said
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  Speaker 3: playing the best, I think you could make an argument.
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  Speaker 6: You could.
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  Speaker 3: It's Baker, but I mean, they're a weird team. They're
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  Speaker 3: 4-1 and have a negative DVOA, which is almost impossible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for everybody to know what that means, that's bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an advanced stat that says TLDR, you're not
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  Speaker 3: very good.
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  Speaker 1: And so for people who have heard of what DVOA
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  Speaker 1: is and don't understand it, I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: the easiest synopsis.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually a really interesting statistic.
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  Speaker 1: So the way DVOA works is it takes a measure
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  Speaker 1: of every play But the measure is based on how
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  Speaker 1: many yards you had to go to get the first down.
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  Speaker 1: So that way, a 15-yard pass on first and 10
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  Speaker 1: is not treated the same as a 15-yard pass on
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  Speaker 1: third and 18, where they're in cover three and they're
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  Speaker 1: letting you have everything in front of you as long
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  Speaker 1: as you don't get the first down, right? So it
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  Speaker 1: puts the context of the situation and the evaluation of
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  Speaker 1: every play, which is to say, per play, Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 1: is living that negative life. That's what they're saying. So
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  Speaker 1: all of this happens and say you get the Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City Chiefs and you get them in the playoffs and
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  Speaker 1: you still have the best quarterback that I have ever
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  Speaker 1: seen who will probably have three or four very good receivers.
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  Speaker 2: By the time it comes back, by the time that
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  Speaker 2: we get there.
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  Speaker 1: If they figure anything out on defense, nothing that is
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  Speaker 1: happening right now really matters.
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  Speaker 2: Now that being said, Ryan.
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  Speaker 1: The version of the Ravens that they got to play against,
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  Speaker 1: was worse than the version of the Ravens that the
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  Speaker 1: Bills got to play against. And that is doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot to bolster a lot of what the Chiefs got going.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even if the Chiefs don't win the division,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to probably be playing whoever wins the AFC North,
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  Speaker 3: which is either going to be Aaron Rodgers after his
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  Speaker 3: 42nd birthday or whatever the Ravens are at this point.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, we will wrap on this. The Baltimore
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  Speaker 1: Ravens have played five games. Do you know how many
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  Speaker 1: points they have given up?
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  Speaker 3: 206.
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  Speaker 2: Not quite, but not far.
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  Speaker 6: 177.
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  Speaker 2: The Make-A-Wish Foundation has given up 154.
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  Speaker 1: The Bengals have given up 156.
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  Speaker 2: They have given up 177.
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  Speaker 1: They will not have that same defensive coordinator all year long.
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  Speaker 2: Write that down.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: NBA season is getting close.
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  Speaker 1: Ryan, by the time these people have a chance to
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: watch this, LeBron will have explained what the.
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  Speaker 2: Decision part two was is that what he was.
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  Speaker 3: Teasing online the second decision the.
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  Speaker 1: Second decision i got a phone call from a television
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  Speaker 1: network and they're like hey can you come on sometime
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: on tuesday talk about lebron and i said what is
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: there to talk about lebron they said well he's teasing
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: something like the second decision we're thinking it might be
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: retirement no.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: It will it will not be that that i was certain.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Of if choosing the decision framing again is certainly a choice,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: but choosing, trying to book in his career with the
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: worst moment of his, it does not seem, does not seem, uh,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: It seems like an ad agency idea, not a LeBron idea.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I thought the lesson that they learned from the decision
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: part one is that there wouldn't go be no decision
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: part two. The lesson they learned from the decision part
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: one was to put out a press release for the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: next time that you made your decision.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Of where to go.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, call Lee Jenkins.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, never did this again. But we are getting close
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: to the season. The Lakers are going to be fascinating.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: J.J.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Reddick says that he talks to Chad GPT all the
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: time because he's.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Man, man, man, JJ is an interesting situation, right?
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: I still think that job is going to kill him.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I still don't think that he has the temperament.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I think he has to give everyone on his staff
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: a break from him. That's why he talks to Chad
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: DBT for an hour and a half a day.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, in fact, who on the staff came up with
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the idea?
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: That's a genius. Yeah, who was like, hey, man, you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: you could always just ask Chad GBT this.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing about Chad GBT, and we've talked
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: about this a little bit here. What ChatGPT don't ever
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: give you is no backtalk.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: So you can.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Tell ChatGPT anything, and it's going to tell you that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you're right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Sounds like JJ Reddick's best friend.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And I don't know exactly how well JJ deals with feedback.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for that. But if
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you don't like backtalk, ChatGPT is, in fact, for you. Now, again,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: you can always read books.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: But!
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Chad GPT is the answer that many people have chosen.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But we came to talk about the NBA because Giannis
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Antetokounmpo is back with the Milwaukee Bucks. Sham Sharania of
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: ESPN wrote a very long piece basically about what happened
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: or did not happen during the summer with the Bucks
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and Giannis and the other interesting group in the story
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: is the Knicks. Apparently the Knicks were the only team
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that Giannis demonstrated an interest in playing for. And the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Knicks did not ever make a real offer to Milwaukee
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: in large part because the Knicks traded all their stuff
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to get Mikael Bridges and then have signed Mikael Bridges
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to a massive extension. That is who boy, um, He
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: better hope Knicks fans don't remember that because they're going
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: to hate him unless something drastically changes.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: About his approach to physical basketball.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: They are going to hate him by the time this
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: year ends because it's going to be a very, very
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: antsy situation with the Knicks. Anyway, Giannis is back with Milwaukee.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Giannis is in the place with Milwaukee where he's like, hey, man,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: if we're not looking like we're a contender for a championship,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: then what am I doing here? I would like to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: go somewhere else. And I think that that is a...
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: reasonable premise it is a reasonable idea keeping in mind
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: the bucks have not been out of the first round
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the last three seasons um I made when we did
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that list of 25 athletes in the last 25 years
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Nick made a fair argument that I penalized Kobe for
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: those three years in the middle of his career post Shaq,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: pre Gasol. But we don't do that to Steph Curry,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: who had a similar lull.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: In his career.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And I think the argument that I would make against
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: that is What it meant to have a superstar player
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: in terms of your outcomes was different in 2006 and
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: 2007 than what it is now because the rules of
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the game have changed.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: The rules of the league have changed where it is
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: much more difficult for a great player to have the impact.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: Than it was at that time. And there's more great basketball.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: There's more NBA-level basketball players.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: But 20 years ago, we couldn't. We had pretty much
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the same amount of successful quarterbacks. We have two to
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: three exes. capable nba basketball players that we.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Did i'll put it to you like this in 2007
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: lebron james could drag that team he dragged to the
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: finals you can you can't do that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Now that's a 30 win team in today's nba.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah you couldn't do that then like it's not
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that's where the game is changed so that's kind of
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: the argument that i make there but at the same
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: time like did they lose in five games in the
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: first round is the number one seed.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Like i mean these are It's some indefensible.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Losses that he has had and that he has put up.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: The fact that they won a championship and Game 6
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: went the way that Game 6 went means that there's
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: some questions that we no longer ask about him. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it is somewhat, it's very interesting that the question has
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: always been, are the Bucs doing.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Enough for Giannis?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And the question has not been, do the Bucs need
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to go ahead and move on to their future without him,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: given what his age is and given that he has
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: a game, that the aging process as the athleticism declines
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is probably going to be a bit harsh unless he
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: lets Akeem Olajuwon take some of his money and go
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: down there and really get his ass to dream shaking.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? They can get down there
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: talking Nigerian stuff. whatever that means. They can do that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Still think the best play for both parties involved is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: real simple, man. Keep Giannis and Giannis stick around. This
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is the thing about the sports, right? And we can't
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: say this to people out loud. And it's very, very interesting.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: For most people, kind of sticking around where you at
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and making it happen is the best move. Or maybe
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I could be saying it's the most convenient move, but
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I think very often and in a lot of ways,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it ultimately proves to be the most fulfilling move. And
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think in the current NBA, and we've talked about
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: this a little bit before, but I want to stay
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: with this point and keep reminding people of it because
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to prove itself in the end.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be so hard to keep a title
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: window open because they've done so much.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: With the rules to encourage parity.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: That you can go leave now and hop on the
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: next big thing because it gives you a chance at
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: a championship. But that chance at a championship is not
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: going to be sustainable in all likelihood, which means in
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a year, maybe two, You're going to be out here
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: looking for another place to go.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: And this isn't college.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: And when I say this isn't college, I mean that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hop year to year transfer situation. It's much easier for
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: them to do that now than it is for somebody
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to do that in the NBA. If you are moving
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on to this next team, somebody is going to have
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: to give up some money. There's going to be scarce,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: finite resources that have to be dealt with in order
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to make that happen.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Like This is, these teams wanted to find ways to
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: encourage players to stay. And originally the plan was, we
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: will make it so that you could pay a guy
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: more money to stay and thereby that guy won't wind
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: up leaving, right?
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: And that happened.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But what that did as much as anything else was,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: for example, allow the Wizards to pay John Wall and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Bradley Beal.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Big win for you guys, right?
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And look, those are two guys that were very good
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: players and I think very important to that franchise. But
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's how the owners envisioned that these
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: things would go, right? But it turns out that the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: best way it appears to encourage these people to stay
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: in the same place is that grass ain't greener over there.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Because what they were trying to say was the grass
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: is greener over here and is green with this money.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Now the argument is, if you go over there and
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work right away, then what?
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's... Like, title windows used to be four or
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: five years. I mean, when LeBron was going back to
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: the first decision, he's saying not two, not three, not four.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think if you ask people how many
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: titles that group of guys are going to win, people
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: would have said three or four championships. And now title windows...
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: 18 months?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I think the title window used to be as long
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: as you had a title player.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: So, like, for me, back in the day, and I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: don't know how to... So, I don't know how to define.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: The term superstar in this era.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is this.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Back in the day, the way I defined a superstar was,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: does this team have a chance to win a championship
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: just because you are on the team?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So, it is for that reason that I had said...
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Pete Dwight Howard was a superstar.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of people might not have felt that way,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: but Pete Dwight Howard was a superstar. You had a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: chance to win a championship just because you had him
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: on the team. Steph Curry, the 2015 version, like get
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: around to there. That was a superstar. The reason they
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: had a chance to win championships and did win championships
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is because that guy was on the team. LeBron James,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: an example of a guy that I think fit that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: same description, right? You can win a championship simply because
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: This guy plays for your team.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: There is no player in the NBA right now that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: is so good that you have a chance to win
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: a championship just because that player was on your team.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic is probably one of the 15 best players
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in the history of the NBA. You do not have
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: a chance to win a championship. simply because that guy is.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: On your team.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: The impact of one individual player just isn't that strong anymore.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It doesn't exist in that way, right?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So now, if you are that guy, you're in a place,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they put the people around you that make you good
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: enough to win a championship, and then in a year,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: maybe two, that all becomes too expensive, and then you
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: break that thing down for parts. That's what the new
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: NBA is going to be. And so to me, it
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: reminds me. I'll put names to it. So after I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: did the show called High Noon for ESPN and after
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: it ended, I got a phone call on a phone
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: call with an infamous gentleman named Norby Williams.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And so I get on the phone with Norby and just,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, talk about the future, where are things going?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I just signed a contract extension, you know, but there
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was just COVID. There's nothing really for me to do.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: And I didn't really know the cat. So I was like, hey, man,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: let's get on the phone and let's talk it out.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: And I'll never forget. And if you know anything about
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Norby's time at.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: ESPN, Norby, what they call a survivor. Every job, I think,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: has somebody that's just a survivor. And, you know, all
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: these things happen and somehow this guy stick around, right? Norby,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: until he ran across Pat McAfee, was a survivor. So anyway,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Norby and Norby just says
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: to me, you know what?
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Somebody like you.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: It just needs to just just wait a little while
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: and things will change.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Let's wait for things to change. That's what he told me.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: It's like, look, things were going a certain way and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you were up. And now things have changed. And now
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you're down. But if you can wait this out long enough,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it'll turn right back around into your favor. And in
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a certain form or fashion, he was correct. Now, of course,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: neither of us work there anymore. So you could question
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in total what the advice was.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't wrong. He wasn't wrong about it. Sometimes
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: things change and.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: You just need to lay low for a little bit
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: and wait for the things to turn. And I think
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that the media environment and everything else has created a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: circumstance where everybody feels this pressure to hurry up and
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: win like right now, because if you don't win like
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: right now, we're going to be out here talking bad
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: about you. But I don't think we're going to have
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the capacity to talk bad about so many people anymore
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: because this is going to be the state of affairs.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: For everybody.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Like look, what's happened with Denver where I thought Denver
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was going to be able to go on a run
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: for years, but it turned out that the front part
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: of the Denver window was when Murray and Porter were hurt.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: They came back for what turned out to be like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the end of the window. Then they had that down year, Ryan,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and when it got a couple more pieces and now
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: it looks like they are one of the top contenders
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in the West again. Yeah.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: We'll see how that all fits together. But I think, um,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: like you said, like after they won that first title, um,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Jokic is clearly the best player in the league. You
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: think they're stacked. for a few more and they haven't
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: been back since.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just not how it works anymore. You just
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: got to lay low. And so for Giannis, maybe the
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: window was closed. Maybe the window was over. But your
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: chance of getting back to the top is probably just
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: as strong in Milwaukee as it is were you to leave.
• 29:59
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  Speaker 3: All right, Bo, let's run through a couple quick stories.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting one, speaking of ESPN, they're in a weird situation
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• 32:49
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• 32:53
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• 32:57
  Speaker 3: are reports of whether he will be back on ESPN today. Bo,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on this?
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man, this this there's a reason why they told
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: us we couldn't talk about politics back in the day
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  Speaker 1: when I worked over there.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think as much as people won't believe me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that not wanting us to talk about
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: politics at ESPN back in the day was nearly about
• 33:21
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  Speaker 2: We talk about the stuff.
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• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if you ever heard this story, Ryan,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: but David Stern's point about the decision was fantastic, which
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: was the problem with the decision for LeBron was there
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: are 30 teams and 29 fan bases are going to
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: hate you.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anything you say where 97% of the people are
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: unhappy is probably not the best way for our entire
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: league and our entire operation.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Only one set of people is going to like it. Now,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: with sports by and large, there's going to be.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Basically, if you offer sports opinion, especially at a national platform,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: most of the people aren't that invested in that particular
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: game that you're talking about. There's the fans of this team,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: fans of that team, and then there's everybody else that's
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: just kind of looking and maybe has some general opinions,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: but they don't have like a personal investment. It's not
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: nearly a this side, that side scenario as politics.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Is, right?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: And so the idea of Feinbaum running for Senate, number one,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It squarely puts them in a this side, that side
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: proposition at the very least with the fan base that's
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: in Alabama, which I would imagine is a significant proportion
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of the fan base that listens to the Firebomb show
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: because of its historical roots, right?
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: That's number one. ESPN don't want that part. They don't
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: want none of this.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: The other part that ESPN don't want none of is
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: this right here. Are you pulling this guy off the
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: air today? because he says he's running for Senate. Now,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I will tell you, I don't have any inside information
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: from the company about this. I haven't talked to anybody
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that works there about it. I feel very confident saying
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: this about the current world order at ESPN. There ain't
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: no rules, right? Like, not in terms of your ideology,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: not in terms of what your politics are. So what
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: would you think? You think that because Paul Feinbaum says
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: that he's thinking about running for Senate, that ESPN will
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: pull him off the air?
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: For what reason?
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: The only reason that would make sense is the equal
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: time provision and them having a measure of concern about
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: whether or not they run into conflict with that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: And if that's the.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Case, that's perfectly fair, right? I mean, that's not even
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: perfectly fair. That's what they have to do.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not an editorial decision. That's a legal decision.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no other option. That's what
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: has to be done.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: But I don't think for a moment that it is
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: an editorial decision that You said you're down with Donald Trump.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: We can't have that. Did you just see what Iger
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: did for Trump? Did you did you just see it?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It just happened over there with the Kimmel thing. Did
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you see what happened?
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: No, I don't believe for a moment that for reasons
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of politics that they would tell Feinbaum that he's got
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to get off the air.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: But I can tell you this. Did you see somebody
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: called in? They had a caller. They had to drop
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: the call immediately.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: And you saw my mom chuckling?
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got on there talking about the politics. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: they had to dump him immediately? They don't want that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: every day. I will make one last point. And, I mean,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: if you guys know much of the history, that's not
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: my guy. That's not my friend.
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I've had one actual factual conversation with Paul Feinbaum in
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: my life that was not on television, but that's not
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: my dude. OK, I'll just make this point. I forget
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: what year it was. I believe it was in the 1960s.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: But Bud Wilkinson, the legendary head football coach at Oklahoma,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: ran for the Senate in the 1960s and he lost.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: He did not win that race. When Tom Osborne left
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Nebraska after the 1997 season, he won a seat in
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: the House and then he tried to run for Senate
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and he got his ass handed to him in the primary,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: as I recall.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I'm saying all that to say.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: There was a time where, yeah, sure, you coach some
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: football or something like that. But that didn't mean we
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: were going to give you like an important position because
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that would be silly.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: We were a proper country once. You know what I mean?
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Not anymore.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: People in Alabama saw a Democrat win once and then
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: we're going football coaches and sports commentators running for football.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Tuberville didn't even coach Alabama. You understand
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying? Like he did not even coach Alabama.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: We didn't always do this is all I'm saying.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Like the fact that we have reached a point where
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it is a conceivable idea that Paul Feinbaum could be
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: be your senator.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: And it is entirely on the basis of the fact
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that people know who he is.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: So I got it.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Many of you know, my good friend, Matt Jones in Kentucky,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: he considered running for Senate against Mitch McConnell. And the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: people of the party wanted him to run. But the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: biggest part of why they wanted him to run is
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: because he had the name recognition of a radio show. However,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Matt Jones and Paul Feinbaum are different people. Matt Jones
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: has a degree from Duke Law School. He is one
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: of the more brilliant people that I know. He traffics
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: in these spaces a little bit differently. I don't know
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: anything about what Paul Feinbaum thinks about anything at all.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Like if you're telling me the folks in Kentucky are.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Like, hey, Matt, you're really visible and you're probably the
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: most popular liberal that we have in this state whose
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: father had not previously been the governor.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Why don't you come on down? Yeah, I think that
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Um.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything that Paul thinks about anything in
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: this world other than Hank Williams Jr. that's it that's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that's the only place where I know anything about what
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: he thinks about stuff and somebody really signed up and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: was like hey man what do you think about making
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: what do you think about that guy being the senator
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: does that sound like being a good idea what And
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: it gets back to the idea that my man Neil
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Postman had in one of those books that the growth
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: of television, which was then expanded by the Internet, was
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: going to reach a point where in order to run
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: for political office, some other measure of fame was going
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to become a prerequisite.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And what Paul.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Feinbaum has that not that many people in the state
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: of Alabama have is fame and preexisting name recognition.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: But this is crazy talk. Hard stop.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: All right, sticking with politics, Donald Trump says that the
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: White House UFC events will be held on June 14th,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: right around his 80th birthday. Rumors of Conor McGregor and
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: John Jones participating in this. Beau, what do you think?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Conor McGregor, where is he from?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Ireland.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, it ain't America.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Just, just, just.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: What are we doing, man?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Have you seen those mock-ups that had it looking like
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: it was going to be.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Like sparklers and pyro and shit out there? Like, I just.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago that you couldn't get him
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to talk about MMA on ESPN because it was seen
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: as being kind of beneath the dignity of the network.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: They about to do this at the White House?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: At the.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I was incorrect. It is his 80th birthday.
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I did not know that.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: It's not only a UFC event. It's also a Trump
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: birthday party.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to throw this out here and let
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: us move on because it just dawned on me.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Um.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: How many January 6th jokes do you think that people
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: are going to be spitting out about that crowd? Finally,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: we have come back to Washington, D.C.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: All right. And finally, Taylor Swift's latest album, The Life
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: of a Showgirl, came out on Friday. It has met
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: mixed reviews online. Pitchfork gave the album a 5.9 out
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: of 10. Bo, have you listened to the new Taylor
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Swift album?
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, hell no. I don't do that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I don't listen to her music, so I don't say
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: anything judgmental about her music. It could be excellent. I
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: truly have no idea. I think there are two parts
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: of this that are interesting, right? I don't know if
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you have been reading the reviews of this or other
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: things that have come up. But one of the things
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: is she's talking a lot about having sex.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: With Travis Kelsey.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And that is not the best songwriting. that I have
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: ever heard, right?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Now, granted, my favorite is Prince, who is the best
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: at writing songs about sex anywhere in the... Prince says
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: things like, if I was anything else, I'd be the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: water in your bath.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Like, this is the level of sex talk that I've
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: grown accustomed to on records.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: She wrote a song called Wood and called that man
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: a redwood.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: This is not.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: This isn't wheelhouse songwriting stuff for her. And her fans.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Not enjoying it. I don't know if she like Adele,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And like, if Adele say
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: she putting out a record, you need to call Rich
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Paul to make sure he okay. Because at the very
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: least he's sleeping on the couch. She only, she don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: feel like singing when things is going good.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: You must be crazy. That's just not, that's just not
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: how it goes.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: But what I find interesting about this with her is
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: every great artist has a brick or two, right? Some
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: more than others. Some stretch it out for a while.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: But like my guy Sturgill, that last Sturgill record, it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: a brick, guys. I think we can all go back
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: and recognize.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: We don't want to go back and listen to it.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: It's a brick.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: We don't acknowledge bricks from stars as much because stars
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: are more invested, especially online, to saying how much they
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: love it. This is the first time I could think
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: of in a long time that a superstar's fans came
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: straight out and said, she hit us with a brick.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: But that's okay. Everybody gets to give us a brick
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: every now and then. But this sounds like a brick.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a very long runway with artists in
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: terms of, we just forget about albums. Yes.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody's got one.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Like you go back and look at who your favorite is,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: and you'd be like, I don't know about that one
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: right there, right? That one feels, that one, that was
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: not their best. You know what you say about those?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: It's got some songs on it. right?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: You start listing the songs individually.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Be like, oh, but wait a minute, wait a minute. Love,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: 60 Has, with 2R and Love, and I Wish You Heaven.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And I Like Glam Slam. You like Glam Slam? Dancehall?
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You don't like Dancehall? Like, that's the way that you
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: wind up having the discussion. And I don't think that
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: record was a brick, but it's got some songs on it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: That's what you got. Or you start saying, it's better
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: than people remember after a while.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: For example, Outkast Idlewild, it is better than you remember,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: but it was a brick in the moment, but It's
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: got Boris Brown. It's got Butron Angel. It's got some
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: songs on it. It's better than you remember. Maybe that's
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: what the Taylor fans will be saying about this one. Or, or, or,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: maybe she'll be like, fine then, how about I just
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: go be in love? I already got a gozillion dollars.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: What do I need y'all for?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Talk about a break.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: All right. Bonus episode, bonus voicemails. Here's our first one.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: What's up, Bo? This is Ant calling from the DMV.
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: I know you're a big Anderson Pack guy. I am too. Unfortunately,
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: I wasn't able to catch his tour last year. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: was sick the days he was in my area. But
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: I was able to catch his No Worries tour. And
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: I was pleasantly surprised. I wasn't too familiar with the music,
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: but I went hoping he was going to do some
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: of the solo stuff and really enjoyed the show. So
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: just curious.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Are you a fan of No Worries?
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: And have you seen them once or the other show?
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: Keep doing.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Your thing. No and no. Look, I have tried the
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: No Worries stuff. At every turn, I try it.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And it always just sounds like a lesser version of Anderson.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Somebody got mad at me one time because I said
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: online about it. I'm like, all the stuff that he does,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that he does with other people, I don't like. They
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: all get in the way. I think that he is
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: one of the most talented, greatest performers, songwriter, sum total.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: He is up there for me in a pantheonic air
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of things, right? That's where I am. Silk Sonic is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a lesser version of him. The No Worry stuff is
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a lesser version of him.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: And then somebody got mad at me one.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Day online and was like, oh, so you're saying that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: It's a problem because of the producer he's working with.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: That is exactly what I'm saying. Like, what's crazy about
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: that thought? I don't like when he do stuff with
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: this dude. And it seems like he saves his real
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: heat for himself because he knows better than to waste
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: it on this cat.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, no, no, no.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: I went and saw him, me and my old buddy Sean,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: went and saw them at the Hollywood Bowl last year.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, man. This knowledge cat ain't going, no, no, no, no, no.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: So y'all can have that. Like, I got one or
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: two of them on vinyl just because I support the homie.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It's not even the homie.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I need to stop acting like I know that man.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Because I did introduce myself to him, and he was like, oh,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: my God, a fan.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, shit. How do I get out
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: of this situation? Oh, man, it was a tough game.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: It was a tough situation. Tough situation. But yeah, no, no, no.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: You can have it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: No worries.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Not for me.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: All right. Here's our next one.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: What's good, Bomani, man?
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: This is Mike Z, man. I'm a big fan of
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: the show, been listening to it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: I can't even remember how long I've been listening to.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: It, but I've been listening to it for a long time, man.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: Shout out to the HBCUs.
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: I know you're a Clark Atlanta grad.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: My sister works there. She's a professor. And I graduated
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: from Tuskegee. But I called to talk about this Alabama-Vanderbilt game, man.
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: It's crazy that this was even a game. But I
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: was watching my wife, and my wife was like, Kalen DeBoer,
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: the coach for Alabama, looks like he does not like
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: his job. And I had to tell her, look, I
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: went to school in Tuskegee, which, you know, is like
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: 15 minutes from Auburn and a couple hours from Tuscaloosa.
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: But I was like, the way they care about football
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: is ridiculous. I had a homeboy send me a video
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: from the Paul Firebomb show. And he said, and I quote,
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: using your words of money, and I quote, if Kalen
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: the Boy was on life support, I would unplug it
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: and charge my phone. And my homeboy was like, yo,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: they really like this in Alabama?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And I was like, yes.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: He was so serious about saying that. And so my wife, no,
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: he probably does not like his job. They de-vandy, but still.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: What you think about that, bro? You think Kalen the
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: Boy like his job? Ha ha.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: He knows the answer to this question. I have been
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: telling people this for the long... It is so much...
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I guess he already knew it, but now his wife
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: is seeing it.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody's starting to understand because people hit me a lot
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and be like, oh, no, they'll cut Saban some slack. No,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: they will not. Saban was like 10-2. Let me get
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: out of here before they burn my house down.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: That's why Kalen DeBoer was looking miserable, because he was
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: thinking about what his life was going to be like
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: in four hours if he lost to Vanderbilt at home.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yo, but how about this? It's not going to be
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: any better if you win. Nothing is good enough.
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: Nothing.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: They're playing. There are a hundred something teams and they're.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Playing for a national title every single year. Nothing is
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: good enough. And this is the thing I meant to
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: mention when I was talking about the playoff on Monday
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: that I think is important and I don't think people recognize.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: One thing the playoff did is it increased the number
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: of teams whose seasons end with a loss.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: So the existence of a playoff means more chances to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: win national championships and more chances to lose them if
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you're Alabama.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: They might have run Ryan Day off if he won
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: a national title last year. You lose to Michigan and
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: in the playoff?
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Nah, I think John Cooper was allowed to go 2-10-1
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: against Michigan at that job.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: That's not a hang-em-high job.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: But Alabama, if they don't win a national title in
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: the next two years, he's out of there.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but not even because they're going to fire him.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Because he's going to leave. That was the thing. Ray
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Perkins left.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Bill Curry kind of got fired, but ultimately left. Dennis
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Francione left. Like these guys look around and say, oh,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: hell no.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And they just leave.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: All right, here's our last one.
• 50:26
  Speaker 6: Hey, Bomani. This is Russell from Virginia. I've been listening
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: to the show since the Shannon days. And I'm calling
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: in with a story about somebody leaving their job in
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: a memorable way. So back in the summer of 2000,
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: on the weekend after my 16th birthday, I rode my
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: bike to the nearest shopping center and came away with
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: a job at a Quiznos Subs. And I ended up
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: working there about two years. And along with the $ 5. 65
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: an hour, I earned a lot of lessons about life.
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: The person I learned the most from was a guy
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  Speaker 6: named Angelo. He was the general manager at the store,
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  Speaker 6: and he was kind of a unique guy. He dealt
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: a little bit of weed out of the back of
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: the store. He worked high, which to that point in
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: my life was not a thing I realized you could do.
• 51:15
  Speaker 6: He ran a little amateur boxing club out in the
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: back of the store. He brought his taser into work
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: and showed me how that works. So, you know, I
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: learned a lot about people by spending that amount of
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: time with Angelo. But after about a year of working there,
• 51:33
  Speaker 6: I came in, and there was a new general manager,
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: and it turned out Angelo had been fired. And he
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: was a bit of a hothead, so I never really
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: did find out what happened, but I can't say I
• 51:43
  Speaker 6: was surprised. The thing that made it memorable was that
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: about a month later, I got a call on a
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: Friday morning, asked if I could come in for an
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: emergency shift. And when I got there, turned out the
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: owner of the store had been in the hospital all night.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: And the reason he had been in the hospital all
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: night was because, like every other Thursday, when he left
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: the store with the cash take from the week so
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: that he could deposit it in the bank the next day,
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: he turned around to lock the door and close up.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: And somebody stepped out from the shadows and tased him.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: And when he woke up from that tasing, obviously the
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: $ 8, 000 that was in the cash bag was gone. And
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: that's all we really know for certain about that.
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: So anyway, thanks for the show.
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: Appreciate everything you do.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Have a good one.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: First of all.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Well played all around in the setup of the story, right?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Top to bottom. I also love this way. I didn't
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: know you could, he used to come to work high.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know you could work high. That is a,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: that is a turning point moment in the lives of
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: many of us. The first time you see somebody show
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: up to work high and then you realize.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he's still over there getting the job done.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Huh?
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Ain't that something?
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: So I love that he's as he said, like, I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: feel like I know Angelo top to bottom the way
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: he fully stacked it up.
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: If you give us a two minute voicemail, it's got
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: to be a great story. And that was a rich
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: character building.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I also want to know all the things. How did
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: Angelo manage to get this job?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Like with all the things that he named him by Angelo,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: if he was doing them as the general manager, he
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: was also doing those things when he was working on
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to I want I want to know
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: more about Angelo as well.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Angelo. Excuse me. Someone.
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: Someone.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: At the same place where Angelo demonstrated how to use
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: the taser.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: And what I love is that if Angelo did that,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: he did it with his signature on purpose to dare you.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And apparently he came up. He had a he had
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: a great plan. Like I was watching Inside Man the
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Great plan.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Great plan.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Great plan. Speaking of that, I've been watching a few
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: movies for whatever reason. And in our next episode, we're
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: going to have my buddy Howard Bryan on. We're going
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: to try something. You guys let us know what you
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: think about this, but we're going to do some movie talk.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about one battle after another, maybe
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: even a little bit about high and low and highest.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: To lowest because Howard is a super movie dude. And
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I know how to talk. So, you know,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: check it out. It should be good stuff.
• 54:26
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• 54:28
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• 54:30
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• 54:35
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