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Episode 229: Flesh and Blood (SG-1 10.01) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and twenty nine. I can stargate SG one
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back in a milky Way galaxy. Mitch Brendan Maddie will hear what's going on
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boys? New season? It is? There was you know what, there
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was a touch of sadness when I realized this is the last first, you
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know, episode of another season of SG one, whether it's this rewatch,
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whether it's for the podcast, it's like, this is the last premiere episode
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of SG one. One of those parents, aren't you it's my kids last
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first day of school? Shut up? So that literally an entire year ago
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before they finished school. You know, Yeah, you're right. I just
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love the first day in school because it means they don't have them at home
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anymore. Yeah, but also don't want them to have left. It's it's
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a real predicament. Yeah, it's a real contradiction being a parent. We're
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not contradicted. You're not doing it right anyway. We do. I need
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to talk about parenting. That's on our other podcast, Get into Something That's
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how you become a parent? Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, it's the prequel
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to the parenting podcast that we're going to be doing. We're talking SG one
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we're talking Flesh and Blood episode one of season ten. Hell yeah, oh
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yes, Now we were going to who wrote it? I mean, as
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far as looking at the next two weeks worth of Stargate, whether we're this
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premiere episode, season three, episode one of sg A next week. It's
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the double up, and we very rarely get a soul Robert C. Cooper
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writing credit into a soul Martin Guiro writing credit. But I mean, that's
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the blessings that we're getting over the next week. We'll talk about it next
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week more, I guess. But you've got two episodes in a row where
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the opening scenes are scenes from previous that we've added extra bits to. Yes,
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yes, yes, yep, yeah. This is the point, Mitchell,
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where I would normally hand you the little physical DVD slip with the synopsis
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in them for you to read out M. But the cheap skates at MGM,
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no, no little booklets with synopsis in it. For season nine and
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season ten and season three, they were already out. They're already sort of
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looking at postseason. My season ten has them, so I can well,
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it's certainly can pull your finger out and contribute and bring it in. Well,
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you know what, I didn't know that you bought inferior product if you
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had have told me. In any case, that's all I could get.
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That's literally the only one that I could get, you know. I actually
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thought about that this morning and I was like, I'll get the box set
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and I'm hang on the box set. That's no, that's no good to
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me anymore's new season. I can't take that in for the mice, you
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know, because you offer you bring it in when I for when I don't,
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and then I've just gotten comfortable with you bringing them in, but I'm
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like, you need to get back into it. I know where they are,
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but it's season and that is still very much in a box from when
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I moved house over two years ago. So yeah, that'll that'll be post
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the recording today, we'll be going through those boxes and gettingbout season ten of
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SG one and season three of Stargate Atlantis Excellence, which you would have never
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touched before SG s G A. Yeah, you own them, but you've
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never watched them, much like you start treck box set. That's it again,
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that's a different podcast again, not getting into starg very short episodes that
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one. But yeah, flush and it's on getting to gig. It's called
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not making it. So yeah, it's just it's me and Brendan. Yeah,
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there going, Well, we didn't watch it again this week. It's
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not making it's me and Brendan critiquing your and and Craig's podcast of start.
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Oh, it's a re listen of our podcast. I would love that.
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Yeah, before we go, Before we go any further, I do have
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a short mail bag that I want to touch on. Okay, now,
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this one is a Apple iTunes review from Jacob Tap love it in the US
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survey three stars. Oh, okay, mid that's fine. I mean I
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prefer a fiver or one. Yeah. Yeah, don't don't flip flop either
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love it or hate it. Don't be offen sitter, Jacob. Yeah,
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we are sith. We deal in absolute. Yeah, we don't want to
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balance. Yeah. The heading is they barely watch the shows. I wouldn't
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say that they don't assume. They guys have great chemistry and it's easy to
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listen, but almost every episode, at least one of the guys bitch will
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say something to the effect of, oh I had the episode on while I
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was doing other stuff, didn't pay attention, or I didn't finish it,
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or I didn't get around to watching this one. So a lot of the
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time you're listening to people critique a show they either barely saw or didn't at
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all. Y'all have one job, thanks, I mean, our one job
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is our actual jobs that we go to every day. This is not our
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jobs. But also there's many of us, so it does like between all
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of us, you get a general nice mix. I mean, it's like
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all of us. I didn't watch this one. Actually, there was a
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couple of episodes Mitch didn't watch because he wasn't even in the podcast, so
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it's kind of like, yeah, at this point, we're just joking that
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Mitch hasn't seen it. Yeah, I mean, and in Jacob's defense,
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there are one or two episodes where I definitely have come and go, oh,
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look, you know I didn't. I didn't I didn't finish it.
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There are those, famously. Then there's the first one, sure where I
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just didn't. But then there are episodes when when he says, oh,
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I didn't get around to watching it. No, I feel like there's one
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or two from you guys, you're just like, yeah, I wasn't rewatching
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that, like it was a choice. It wasn't like, oh, I
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couldn't be bothered. It was like I hated this episode. I remember it
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well. I wasn't punishing myself to put myself through the next forty two minutes
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of watching it. You know I've done that. I've always well, I've
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always had it on. I maybe flicking through my phone sometimes while certain things
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happening. And I will say, as well as Jacob, I very rarely
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watch anything anything that I'm not doing something else much. I mean, as
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much as it pains me. I'll watch a lot of football. Well I'm
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cleaning up or folding, laundering dishes. No, how dare you you know
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there were finals on the other week and I'm watching them on like some weird
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you know, twenty five degree angle from my kitchen bench. The next time
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you can sit on the couch. And if your wife complains you this cost
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me two stars. I need to bring it back up to far to be
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fair, I feel like you're a shark. If you stop moving, you
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just power down. Like the last one was at your house and we actually
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stopped and sat down to watch something within in about fifteen minutes, you were
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asleep. Yeah, And I made the choice as well to sit on the
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floor, because then I die fall asleep far slower because if I'm on a
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couch it's comfortable. But I'm like, now I'm going to sit on the
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floor and maybe lean up against the couch. And I was still fading bigle
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Well that, yeah, that was a mistake, because you're famously you will
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nap on that on that floor. That is your floor naps, but that
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is you were sitting on your floor. I did see because obviously all my
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information that comes from TikTok, I did see something for you the other day.
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Apparently a great power in app position is if you lie on the ground
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with like your legs up onto the seat of the chain and go like that
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apparently a ten minute pound app and you'll feel amazed, like a blood flow
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type thing. Yeah, I don't know. And we are brought to you
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by Mellow Matt from now on. Actually great floor napping, Matt. I
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mean, we might be proving Jacob's point at this point. So we're starting
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off the podcast and talking about how we sometimes don't talk enough about the show
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because we have watched it. Maybe you'd have to be a Patreon exclusive thing,
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but I would actually love for us to actually come in and talk about
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an episode we haven't seen. Yeah, not bad. Imagine if we came
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in and just talked about Patreon get the unseen version. You heard Gibson Brothers
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podcast, Jacob, do yourself, if you're not a patron, jump on
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board and go listen to some of their movie reviews. Well, it's like
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we can just come in and do Like we'll come in and do Children of
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the Gods without having watched it in what eight years? None of us watched
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it in like eight years or whatever, and we just do it by memory.
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We get that hindsight knowledge or questions. You know. Yeah, well
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I think in that one this happened. Yeah, God that w'd be frustrated.
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That would be so annoying, or as at least you and rest doing
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your reviews, you'd be like so hammered. Yeah yeah, and we just
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make up storylines. Yeah, that's the role. Reason we can't do it
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here is because if we were, if we were as drunk as the Gibson
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Brothers get in their podcast, we'd actually legally not be allowed to come into
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the studio because like it'd be legal for us to drive. But it got
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a fortune because we'll have to like uber in from our respective homes to actually
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get here safely to record something that drunk. I was just thinking about the
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breath test and the elevator, but not actually driving in. You're right that,
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no, I can get in drunk. I just can't get upstairs drunk.
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But you're right. Yeah, Hey, guys, got something for you.
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It's time for Oh all right, we're back with the great German band
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people, the power metal of this legendary German band called Rage. Oh the
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classic. Well, yeah, everyone knows about Rage. Everyone knows Rage and
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Rage. They're not remember Bob the Mine came up with a whole bunch of
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well, he above the Mind used our great sounds of Stargate to come up
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with a whole list. He had poison, Sorry, White Snake, flesh
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and Blood, but I found this metal version. Oh yeah, Well was
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this flesh and Blood? Yeah? Yeah? Wow? Just the words they're
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in it, that's all you need. That's the main criteria for this.
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Yeah, how good was that? Wow? Rage? I almost want the
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you that actually made me jump? Actually you made me jump? Oh,
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my son of a bitch. Come on, We're never gonna make any money
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of this episode. This is getting flagged on every platform. Oh that's funny.
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That's exactly what I wanted to give Maddie your heart the show that was
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unfair. I was doing things that I should have been doing. Give me
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already nervous. Ah, wow, I thought you when you talk about rage,
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I think we're going to head into Remember that old school your music thing
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that we had to hear? Yeah, that was like the before MTV.
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Is it still a thing? Is this still a thing? I like freeware
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that like plays film clips or they just give up this point. Yeah,
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I don't know. That was such a great cultural phenomenon. Film clips,
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Like I guess it's big on YouTube. But you could sit there as a
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group, either hungover or a bunch of teens just watching that roll down.
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You're like, what's number one this week? And so many songs are better
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when you're watching the film clip. Yeah, like even even recently Marley Cyrus's
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Flowers. I loved that song, Yeah, but I didn't love it until
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I saw the film clip of course. Well yeah, that just like the
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way she was moving to the music actually is a set a different like tempo
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to what I thought the song was. And I was like, oh,
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okay, all right, I'm into this same as what is it satisfaction?
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Oh yeah, and then it was number one for a while. Everyone was
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cheering about that worst song ever, the greatest film clip of all time.
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Hey, so this episode is Gary Jones's one hundredth Hey Gary, Yeah,
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it's also Gary Chalk's last episode or the Chalkster. That's that's the Russian guy,
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Colonel Chekhov, Right, he got blowed it up? He did?
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Yeah. Yeah, And they kind of don't mention it at all, Like
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I feel like for such a like cool recurring character. Yeah, that's true,
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it's not mentioned. I was like, oh, colonel, check again.
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Hundreds of people on the coral left that got blown up, not Daniel,
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not Annual and not Mitchell yep, luckily enough. But yeah, so
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wed it like they're just kind of next episode. It's nothing spoken about it.
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There's no memorial, there's no nothing, just like, oh yeah,
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he's well, he's Russian, mate, he's not Ukrainian, he's Ukrainian boy.
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Whatever wreath we'd have, we'd have an entire ship named it. Oh
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yeah, maybe that's what the end of the name of the episode is.
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Flesh and Blood. Yeah, people have died on the correla. I fucking
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loved that scene of the Odyssey scooping up Sam. That was really good,
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so good, especially because you're like, she's like, this is not going
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to work. Yeah, She's like, doesn't work that way. You don't
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have that much control. Yeah, and even like is it hermiaud or whoever
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it is, is saying something and then he's controlling the gravity the yeah,
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right, she falls and he's being like you need to slow down, and
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the cam's like it doesn't go any slower. Yeah, like this is it?
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Which again I'm like, well, he started putting reverse thrust on,
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so I'm like, so that technically would have made it go slower, yes,
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And then he went to twenty five percent thrust yeah, but there was
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no reason why why didn't he go to fifty reverse so it would stop moving?
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Yeah, that's what I mean, Like I guess, I mean,
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Sam did say, oh, look, the ship doesn't have that much control.
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You can't do these kind of precise maneuvers and stuff. When Cam's like,
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watch me five percent thrusters, yeah, I was kind of she just
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came down too soft for me. I feel like these days they would have
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made each shit well, I think that was when I was listening to the
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commentary, they said like something that the Cooper himselves that didn't really convey enough
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was if Sam had just been just free floating human, which obviously she would
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have died in space, but in that regard, the drop wouldn't have killed
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her. But it's actually the spacesuit that was the issue because they're like seventy
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eighty pounds or whatever, so it's her being crushed by that and four like,
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it's the her falling in the suit was the issue, not just her
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falling, which yeah, they didn't really talk about explain enough I think for
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us as an audience to go to get the peril. But yeah, for
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a minute, I'm like, okay, Sae, I'm gonna get squished up
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against the side of the debt of the Odyssey here. I'm like, this
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is Yeah, I was kind of hoping for like a bit of a stack,
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but that makes sense because yeah, she'd be dead dead. Yeah,
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okay, I guess I had to do that, yeah, as soft as
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possible. Yeah, I did notice a helmet was kind of like, yeah,
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that's why she kind of just collapsed in a heap. Because they said
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most human beings can't even stand up without any assistance in those outfits, which
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we do see back in Is it maybe Beachhead when they're last in those and
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it's like they're like in a frame and you have to like climb up in
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stairs and like climb down into one and stuff like that. So yeah,
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I guess it was just yeah, just Cooper not sort of explaining it to
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us like we're five. It's the suit, it's the problem. I feel
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like they should have better suits, like space suits these days, considering how
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much technical I guess from other planets. It's always that double edged sword with
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stargate of it's said in the real world, so they want to do everything
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as accurately to the Air Force as possible. But you're also in a giant
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space ship flying through space, battling aliens that have come through an artificial world
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ye with the US flags, with an AS Guard ship flying next to you
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and you wingman. So yeah, it's always that hard balancing act. Now
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I think we've discussed this, well, we haven't actually said it, as
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this is a Cooper episode. Robert C. Cooper, listen, did you
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get did you guys know in fact that Robert C. Cooper's middle name doesn't
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start with the seat. It's actually justin Robert, justin time Cooper. You
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see, there's a lot of lantern hanging in this episode. Let's start from
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the beginning. Cameron Mitchell got out of his out of the glider bay just
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in time. Daniel Jackson ring out of the Cora lev just in time.
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Sam Carter got rescued from space just in time before she ran out of air.
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Til got beamed out of the Lucian Alliones mothership just in time. Carter
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tilk Bratach Mitchell beamed out during the Kamakazi into the mothership just in time.
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Daniel and Varra about Vala about to be killed by the aUI prior, but
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they beam out just in time, but not in time enough for them to
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grab Adria, which is what Varla wanted, you know, which was ye
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Daniels like like no, no, yeah, well like he had sel Varla's
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got a chip. No, no, she's not chipped, no, because
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she's not part of the SGC. Okay, so well, so all he
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had to do was grab both of them. Is that difficult? Could he?
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Could he not have Varla lay on the floor, grab both of them?
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Because you've seen them before. They're in the sitting position and they get
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beamed in the standing if they're in a laying position, can they not be
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beamed will a problem? There was a pride there about to destroy the bit
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of you know, and there was fire across the door and stuff like that.
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So you've only got that split second when Daniel, because Daniel even know
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he was getting beamed out, he just kind of felt the beam and just
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grabbed it and away he went, which I'm sure would probably grab the beam.
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I'm not sure how that works, but I guess that's as good beaming
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technology is going to be. Like, yeah, that's fine, it'll be
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two people now. Yeah, just turned into a two headed monster. Yeah,
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absolutely two That would have been a great one, would have been a
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great episode. Yeah, we got have my god, it's a great suggestion
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for you guys, because the prior came in as they were beaming. It
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morphed them together and they're a double headed monster. No, they need to
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be. They need to be grabbing a flower as well at the same time.
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Oh yeah, okay, interesting Season two, episode sixteen two Vix.
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You definitely wouldn't have say the child Brennan what how rude. I know,
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because the not the tiny, tiny infant version, but the first like Adrea
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we see, like the four year old one, like the littlest one that
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was Robert. See Cooper's realized that away from me really yeah, Emma Rose,
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Okay, yeah, so I'm like, yeah, Brenan wouldn't saved her.
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Actually I thought she did quite well that that like the when she comes
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out of the first Adre that we see that gets to speak like she is
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like in but like as far as three year old. Yeah, the guys
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were c geh no, sure, but because they couldn't put contacts on her.
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Yeah, but just thestic she held like I don't know her to come
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in and go hell mother, and it was just like for the audience to
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get holy shit, this is different. Now it's just about a child that
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you know, we're going to have to try and protect kind of like what's
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the again not to speak it to the Jacob, the one the theis yeah
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right pamphlet sort of situation that that's like we're not kinda have to keep it
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away for the next twenty or thirty years and hope, hope for the bet.
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This is something that's going to happen like in days and so that was
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your wake up call, and I just thought, yeah, she she sold
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it quite well. Obviously Claudia Black has to do her bit as well,
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but I thought they both worked together. Yeah, in that they didn't ever
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did they even share a shot. It felt like it was just like Claudia
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or chart Claudia. Yeah. So apparently according to the commentary that that first
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one that came in was a double. They used a different child and then
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it freaked out trying to do close ups and stuff like that, so they
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had to try they to get then get in Robert C. Cooper's door and
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do some stuff and kind of movie magic it with that bit. Then there
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was the next actress. Two different kids. Yeah yeah, yeah, the
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reverse and the and the close ups. Like they were fine in the in
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the master Shop, but when they went into close ups, the kid freaked
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out or something like that and didn't want to do it. Be a professional
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for god in four year old. Then like the next step up was like
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the ten year old and that you probably recognize her. She was in Atlanta.
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She then grew up. When she grew up, she was in Dark
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Matter. I recognize it. Ferland something like that. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, remember the one on the bed or the one before that. So
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there was the there was the infant, then there was the four year old,
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then there was like the ten year old, and then there was like
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the thirteen fifteen year old at the end on the bed. So yeah,
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it was like the ten year old one. That's Harmony from the Atlanta's episode
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Harney. Yeah, yeah, because the fourteen year old was like she was
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in Supernatural. Oh really a few of the others. I think in production
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that was some brilliant casting because I really saw Marina Bachern. You know,
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spoiler alert, that's who the grown up Adria will become. But yeah,
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that eldest Adrea that they they chose for this episode. I was like,
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that's some great casting. Just the way she spoke and the way she held
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herself. I was like, I would absolutely believe her growing up to become
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Marina Bacheran I of all things to remember her Bye the young One, Jodell
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for Jodelle Furland. It's going to be secret Little Liars or whatever it isn't
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it one of the Twilight films? Oh? Okay? Was she was?
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She was? She the est belle or whatever. That's what I thought,
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actually thought that was my Sorry, Jacob, I haven't seen any Twilight films,
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so he won't speak of it. But he's not going to talk about
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something that he hasn't seen until he gets drunk with his brother, and then
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absolutely he'll record four hours of thoughts. It just credits her as a Brie.
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But that was my first thought too, because I mean, there was
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only a couple of years difference. There's a twenty ten film that she was
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in. She's in The Eclipse, so yeah, yeah, yeah, But
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anyway, again Twilight, like Susan sorry, and I'm like, oh,
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it's issues from Twilight. I'm my widelight. Why is that living in my
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head? There's things I would like to remember, and said, I'm remembering
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third rate characters from four films. Those movies had a lot of like just
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randoms in it though, like anyone who's watched same the guy from that Mickey,
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the real rough guy, And that was yeah, that's what I want
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to give it to me, baby, give me flesh and blurred. All
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right, we'll stop talking about it. I get it. I had to
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I do rewind because I was sort of I felt like I was watching at
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the start Mitchell a little bit too closely and not what was going on around
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him, because all of a sudden when it shows, you know, hi,
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this is what happened. This is how he got away, And I'm
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like, did he just leave everyone else for dead? Rewind and go okay,
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there was an explosion, It didn't look like everyone else got killed.
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They sort of got thrown with the same blast that he did. But because
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he's got plot armor, it's like, well he survived that blast and everyone
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else just must have died because it wasn't at all like he got up,
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looked around. Is there anyone else that I can take in a three to
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zero with me? And just to throw them in? It was like I've
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got blasted down. And then he just had eyes for the ship, jumped
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in and took off, but like without a thought of saving anyone else.
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I thought that seems like a very Unmtchell thing to do. I hope that
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they've done this right and I hope they filmed this right. And yeah,
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you could get away with saying that those stunt men were playing people that died
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while they've been blasted through the year, whereas Daniel was just like fuck these
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Russia and he's like, okay, guys, baby, yeah, we're going
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five tickets to do this. Okay, everyone, everyone's ready explosion. He's
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like put the crystal in rings now, see you guys like even out of
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the bomb, just like just moved out of the rings for no reason and
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just like you're just like fetal position. Yeah yeah, I mean he's done
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it before, hasn't he Yeah a few times end of season one, jumped
24:37
through the stargate and office ship. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Just
24:40
the way he just crashed down in the rings though, Like, just the
24:41
way that he just like went full fetal position in the in the rings was
24:45
the weirdest part. Well, that's how he reappears from ancient Maybe that's his
24:48
start. Hope if I do this, hopey I'll come out naked. Yeah,
24:52
hopefully, hopefully, Hopefully if I die, I'll get as sended and
24:55
then reappear naked this position again, it's kink. So I've got a couple
25:00
of presents for you, Brennan. Oh yeah, because of course, who's
25:04
going to be in the audio commentary for this episode, Robert C. Cooper
25:07
himself let him tell you, Okay. Previously Starky as ste w hi there,
25:15
Welcome to the behind the scenes commentary of Flesh and Blood. I'm William
25:18
Wearing, and sitting with me today is Robert Cooper, executive producer, writer,
25:22
But enough about me, shot, I'm actually now father of the talent
25:27
as well, I'm father of the Brian. You can hear the edit point
25:32
in the middle of that well edited out like that's not me, that was
25:36
them, Like that's play that again. We're gonna shut this guy up only
25:41
of that edit point previously stark aste. W Hi there, Welcome to the
25:45
behind the scenes commentary of Flesh and Blood. I'm William Wearing and sitting with
25:49
me today is Robert Cooper, executive producer, writer, But enough about me?
25:53
Yeah, definitely absolutely had a longer list of things that he was gonna
25:59
be. Yeah, because no one says enough about me after two things.
26:02
Yeah, that's it. And then given that he is a credited writer,
26:07
he right, like his profession is he's a writer. He's a writer.
26:11
I mean he's also a producer and a director and other than any work crafts
26:14
father and a yeah, and a homophobe English. The English language is literally
26:22
emphasis on the word literally. Literally. His job is to use the English
26:26
language correct, He hasn't got a great grasp of it. Every once in
26:30
a while you feel like you've you've just gotten incredibly lucky. You have all
26:33
of these, you know, with all due respect, reasonably mediocre auditions,
26:37
and then someone comes in and just literally blows you away, and literally blows
26:41
you away. We all died in that room. He was talking about Joel
26:48
Ferdiland or whatever is. Can I say that maybe he was ahead of his
26:52
time because I've told you it, don't you do it? I've told you
26:56
guys. I'm saying he's wrong the time. He certainly was wrong. You
27:00
go on now you google it. I hate it holy literally in a literal
27:06
manner of sense slash exactly. The driver took it literally when asked to go
27:10
straight over the roundabout. Right. That is saying it as literal. It's
27:14
real, it's factors, it's a thing. Also, it's informal use for
27:18
emphasis while not being literally true. They use the word as part like yeah,
27:22
literal a user emphasis while not being literally true. I was literally blown
27:26
away by the response I got. Is the example they give you so figuratively
27:30
is the word use like people literally? I literally died when I heard,
27:34
It's like, no, no, you didn't. This is why you both
27:37
think to get into Archer, because they make a big point of the word
27:38
literally. These are the same people that make like tiktoks and reels going this
27:41
is the POV when you BLI, it's no, this is a shot of
27:45
somebody doing it. Yeah, this is not Do you understand what POV means?
27:48
Yeah, that's it. POV is not just otherwise every film is a
27:51
POV. POV of me drinking and ice late and it's literally a third person
27:56
shot of them drinking, and it's like, that's not a literally av I
28:03
bought an Oxford Dictionary in twenty eleven and I only refer to that all this
28:11
in Wikipedia. Google shit that shit changes and daily, depending how woke the
28:15
climate is. Oh god, literally a la literally change it. So yeah,
28:21
that is a that is a sag writer or whatever they are. Yeah,
28:26
using the word he was literally blown away by that audition. I had
28:30
an issue with the writing obviously, I mean that a feather would knock me
28:36
over, but mainly in the I think the vital scene of the episode to
28:41
me was Varala and Adria speaking in the dining room slash bedroom slash eating area,
28:47
studio apartment, Yeah, her own studio apartment board or our mothership.
28:51
Yeah, it should have been way bigger if she's the queen. Yeah,
28:53
exactly. That was kind of piss poor actually, but that's the set design's
28:57
fault, you know, Like Adrea is evil, she was born evil.
29:04
She has these terrible thoughts that aren't that just have no opposition. Yeah,
29:11
because they do say at the end of the episode, it's like it's it's
29:14
the are eye's way of cheating the system by sneaking one across across the border.
29:18
She is an or in human form, But just in terms of the
29:22
dialogue, it's like, Okay, Varla has an opportunity here to plant some
29:26
seeds, and she just kind of threw in some subtle quips instead of saying,
29:30
hey, listen, do you like having a mother? Because she's like
29:34
like Adri's like, I'm glad that you care about me mother. So at
29:38
that point, wouldn't you be like do you care that? Do you you
29:41
like having a mother? Would you would you care if I died? You
29:48
know, like trying to point a point of view, empathize the people that
29:51
she's about to murder, slash genocide. It's like, for no reason other
29:55
than they don't even know about you, so you're just kind of decide to
29:57
wipe them off the earth. At that point, would you be like,
30:00
would you be happy if someone killed me? I think, you know what
30:03
I mean, she does at a certain point. I think with maybe the
30:07
Joelle, there was that well, there's that moment where Adria caught on where
30:11
it's like Adria was sort of, you know, buying what what Varla was
30:15
selling, and then she kind of stopped and went, yeah, you know,
30:18
you're trying to humanize the mother or but whatever whatever that line was that
30:22
she said, yeah, and that's when she kind of yeah, it was
30:25
worth trying, and then she kind of just sort of hardened herself against it.
30:27
From that, Yeah, I would have liked her to push a little
30:30
bit more, makeer think plan a few more seeds. Yeah, would you
30:34
like it if someone killed your mother for no reason? Yeah? I think
30:37
we could have had interesting less of some of the battle stuff. Yeah,
30:41
and we could add more of that because it's like, that's why we get
30:44
into Stargate is it's the way they can talk about religion and it thinks people
30:48
do you know, to hold others down around it. Yeah, well that
30:52
was what I liked when she was there saying to Vala, you know,
30:56
hey, the ancients, they're the ones that are lying to you, and
30:59
they're the ones that are actually off the power of everyone else in this galaxy.
31:02
It's not us and my hang on, that's literally the exact same thing
31:07
that our galaxy and our people are being told about the ari is that they
31:11
are lying to their own followers. They're not willing to share power, and
31:15
they're actually feeding off the belief and blah blah blah of the people that are
31:18
following them, and they're you know, part of the book of Reading,
31:22
the Book of original that sort of shit. I'm like, I like that
31:23
about religion. It's like, hey, no, know, we're right for
31:26
all the same reasons that they're wrong. And then if you go over the
31:29
other camp, it's like, yeah, nah, what they said, but
31:32
flip the names around. The scariest part for me is at one point,
31:34
like, if I wasn't as much of a freethinker, it's like, I
31:37
think what Adria was selling I was buying in that. There was that one
31:41
moment where she was like talking about how the ancients have been kind of shady
31:47
by withholding knowledge. Yeah, And like the way she framed that argument,
31:51
I was like, fuck, she's right. If the ancients are withholding this
31:56
information from us for our own quote unquote safe d what else are they withholding
32:02
from us? But then you sort of think it. You go, well,
32:05
no, if they're in with the Asgard and the Assguard have the and
32:07
the Asgard have been forthcoming. But it's they're also very much not handing everything
32:10
to us on a silver platter. They're saying, no, it's better when
32:14
you earn it, you know. It's like, you know, I guess
32:15
with you guys, with your kids and stuff like that, it's like,
32:17
well, rather than us give you five bucks, you need to do something
32:22
to earn that five bucks. Yeah, tribute. Yeah, you need to
32:24
sort of learn how to know. What's the old adage about, give a
32:28
man a fishy eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he
32:30
eats for a lifetime. Yeah, the or I are giving you a fish,
32:34
whereas the ancients are teaching you to fish. Yeah, and but they're
32:37
not, but they don't know that. Yeah, Yeah, that's it.
32:42
Yeah, And that's where I feel like she was talking about the Jafi.
32:45
How the Jafi have they believe the Jafar religion is based on keb right when
32:52
you think, like within within Jafar, if they if they don't believe in
32:58
Apopus, they don't they go to k This is ancient place, and it
33:00
was Oma Desala breaking the rules of the ancients to give them a chance to
33:06
teach them how to fish. Yeah. Not, she wasn't giving them ascension
33:08
apart from Daniel, so the only two my favorite, but everyone else she
33:15
kind of helped long guide the path. Well, I guess if you put
33:20
aside, you know, the entire population of Abbidots as well. She dre
33:23
having a freekbas was my fault. So you guys all get a Mulligain and
33:30
you can all come with me and live in the diner. That would have
33:32
been so cool. Imagine if in Threads you get to the diner and there's
33:36
just like Aberdonians sitting in the diner. Oh, that would have been cool.
33:39
Yeah, damn Scara. Did he died in that too? Yeah?
33:44
Yeah, everyone Scara was there. Daniell have some pancakes. I don't know
33:49
what. I don't know why he's Indian. I don't know why many Indian,
33:52
he's not from he's not Pakistani. Could be the class. Robert C.
34:00
Cooper, with his heteronormative bullshit origin, is about to become more appealing
34:05
to the men of the Galaxy. What about all that lesbo friends out there.
34:08
There's got to be some lesbian out there. There's got to be some
34:13
lesbian Jafar out there. Minimum that just be like, look at that Adrew
34:16
Jesus. Yeah, that was a funny vole alone. She takes after her
34:21
mother. Yeah, the Galaxy I wish with this song could be good for
34:28
Jamie Lee. But what do you what do you call a lesbian with big
34:31
hands? Well, hung got some thumbs on her from everything everywhere all at
34:45
once when they just had the giant sausages for fingers. Yes, that was
34:50
a weird movie. Oh yeah, I did like how I guess it was
34:55
probably more a Cooper thing than but like he's never liked the Za and the
35:00
one shot stunts, two shot kills, three disintegrates. Oh yeah, I
35:04
met a very big point in this episode to be like, the staff will
35:07
kill you. That little thing will just kind of stun you, but if
35:12
you get shot a few times, it might kill you. So they just
35:15
like, let's leave it all vague and vague, so that yeah, well
35:21
those things can do what we need them to do to do it, yeah,
35:23
rather than set up these rules. Yeah, it is interesting. They
35:27
never used the incineration one for the zas ever again after sixty nine. Yeah,
35:32
pretty much. And that was to what opened the we they destroyed there.
35:37
They use the top the lock and then hit it again and disintegrated the
35:43
entire chess. Yeah, there's that's an aquid. That's yeah, you know,
35:49
it's intuitive, it's tricky. Yeah, and aquitda kind of ridge your
35:52
mind and knows what you want to do for sure, and then reacts that
35:55
way same way. You know, if they made the whole truck disappear,
36:00
that would have been brilliant actually, all right, So for some reason,
36:05
the ore I went directly to chew lock, even because this is where the
36:12
rebellion began, is it? Are you sure? Well? I guess that.
36:16
I mean, I know that's where Tilk's from. That's where Tilk and
36:19
Brattack are from. So that's about it, really, But how would they
36:22
know that? Small insight? But they're not in this galaxy, remember they
36:28
are now its geographical Yeah, but is he now is Yeah, but she
36:34
doesn't have all the knowledge. I just found it strange. It's weird.
36:37
It would make sense to go to the Yeah, that's I apologize to that
36:55
one. Got me good, Jesus Flesh and Blood. I have no idea
37:04
what I was saying. Oh Tu Luck, it would have been better if
37:07
they went into Carra. But did you notice uh s g One and bray
37:14
Take beamed down to chew Lock or ring Down. They had no weapons.
37:19
Cartera was just in a jump suit. Yeah, we go on to Chu
37:21
Luck. I'm like, what do you what are you planning to do?
37:23
Well? They got They're fine, I know, but don't you think that's
37:27
strange? They didn't go to the armory first, Like Cartera literally had got
37:31
out of her spacesuit, did some science stuff, and then ring there on
37:36
the they were on the Odyssey. Yeah, maybe old because Old Mat was
37:40
like, he's like, it's a it's a death mission, guys, you
37:45
go you got no chance, And she's like, well, I've got it,
37:46
Daniel might have survived blah blah blah. Maybe he was like, I'm
37:50
not going to waste your weapons, giving you guys weapons. Yeah, that's
37:52
weird. Yeah, it is. She's a colonel, she can take what
37:55
she wants. But yeah, it was just no no kit. I guess
38:00
maybe the inference was that they'd get kitted up down on Cheu luck with gold
38:07
weapons, but Sam's better with earth weapons. Yeah, and so wou Mitchell.
38:13
Yeah, basically I think Braytach had a staff weapon and that was it.
38:19
Yeah. I don't know what the plan was. I I hadn't thought
38:22
about that. It was an open ended ending to this episode anyway, So
38:25
it was maybe just because they know that. I mean, yeah, like
38:29
P nine is not going to work against a pride, but it's certainly going
38:30
to work against all the human soldiers that are on board the Ori ships.
38:36
Yeah, it's just strange. So maybe because it ended up maybe they just
38:40
kind of emitted it for time, because they all just ended up standing on
38:45
the on the bridge of the Peltack anyway. Like it was a space battle,
38:47
not a land battle. For land battle. Yeah, it wasn't like
38:54
a you know, people with people kind of think it was just they just
38:58
beamed down to get on board the attack and then get get up into space.
39:02
You're right though, like they should have had some weapons. It's the
39:06
same it's the same thing moving forward. Yeah, it's the same problem I
39:08
have in Atlantis with Ronan is it's like every time he's captured, they have
39:14
to make a plot point for him to get his blaster back, because it's
39:16
like in SG one, if everyone's got P nineties and they get captured,
39:20
they get all the shit taken off them. It doesn't matter if they don't
39:22
get that that gear back because when they go back to the SGC, they're
39:25
just getting a fresh P ninety. Roan, Like, there's only one of
39:30
those blasts that Ronan has. It's like, if he doesn't get that back
39:32
at the end of every episode he gets captured, he doesn't get my favorite
39:37
prop back. But yeah, you're right, You're right they should have.
39:43
They should have at least had even just like their jackets, like the yeah,
39:45
the vest and nine mil. Yeah, yeah, something something. Cooper,
39:53
what happened at the end? Mitch? Did you did you get catch
39:57
the end of it? I don't even remember I did trigger warning, No,
40:02
absolutely did. But I'm like you asked that. I'm like, I'm
40:06
actually struggling to remember. I mean I watched it, Yester, Yeah,
40:08
yes, the day before I watched it. Yesterday and I'm still yeah,
40:14
I feel like it was was an open ended in the end, ye here,
40:17
yeah, they're in the infirmary. And then Carter's like, that's right,
40:21
She's because like this is how we all felt when we first opened up
40:24
the stargate. This is a really bad Carter impression with the gua would We
40:29
thought we were so out of out of our depth and then here we are
40:32
these eight years later and they're all dead. So it's kind of like that
40:35
rallying cry. Yeah, it wasn't great. Yeah, there's definitely no mel
40:39
Gibson brave Heart. Well, she was tired, she was well, I
40:44
was tired writing. I'll give him that. Well, you know, no,
40:49
they all really are feeling fresh. You're gonna love this one partier for
40:53
you know what she was bringing to the table. But but just that dynamic
40:58
that you know she had with Mike Michael. Actually, he has said in
41:00
interviews that Claudia renewed his excitement for acting. I mean I think you you
41:08
you know, no disrespect intended. You've been on a show for a very
41:12
long time. It starts to feel like a process, you know, like
41:15
this it's not fresh anymore. But sometimes bringing an exciting new cast member and
41:22
finding a new chemistry can really make things seem fresh again. He'd only been
41:25
back for eighteen months when Prome This Unbound came on. Like remember remember when
41:31
Daniel left and had all of season six off? Yeah, he came back
41:35
for season seven for me the Sun Boud, which was Violet's first episode,
41:38
was midway through season eight. Yeah. Wow, how tired had he gotten
41:44
in those like eighteen months after having a year off and realizing you couldn't get
41:46
other work? Well, have you read the script for this episode? Jesus
41:51
Christ? Just terrible dialogue, terrible lantern hanging. It's just all very very
42:00
very convenient the entire way through. You're gonna have fun editing this bitch.
42:22
You got to shoot your fans. Yeah, full disclosure. Bees had to
42:27
leave the room a couple of times were recording, and there's one of the
42:30
nearly deaf and Brendan, so there was Yeah, there was no volume control.
42:34
You're right, actually, because they're never because for the grabs, I
42:38
I boot it up, but for that I'm like, I'm just gonna drop
42:42
it down about two thirds just so it doesn't bluster is off. So obviously
42:45
left it on the on the grab volume. That was great. Yeah,
42:49
if you get that video footage, you'll see Yeah, that was a good
42:52
bitch. Look through the window and saw Maddie behind the desk and like this
42:57
looks like desperate times. This is a weekend, we're recording this and I'm
43:01
gonna have my bosses coming go why is there someone that doesn't work here behind
43:06
our panel that's on air, And I'll be like, you don't understand.
43:08
Rage was playing Germans. The German metal band wasn't quite higher in the podcast.
43:15
Also we should get them on their playlist and maybe losing their sharing song
43:19
or two. Yeah, exactly, hell yeah. The great heavy metal band
43:22
Rage formed in nineteen eighty four. For those who were wondering part of the
43:29
German heavy speed power metal scene speed power Metal, Wow Max Power in the
43:36
eighties. Had to be there. I was, I'm thinking older than all
43:38
of you, Jesus in Germany in the eighties. Oh okay, you know
43:42
I wasn't there. I was no, No, I wasn't in Germany in
43:44
the eighties. Absolutely not. I wasn't on the wrong side of the wall.
43:46
Yeah, before we go, I did want to mention that there was
43:52
a little bit of back and forward in terms of whether you would watch this
43:55
episode first or watch the first episode of Atlantist first, depending on what camp
44:00
you sit in. There is a moment next week spoiler alert where we are
44:04
is talking with the IOWA and there's a few bits and people some of the
44:07
great scenes and Stargate is oh wait till we get to it, you can
44:09
love it. There is a moment in this episode where Iowa talk about getting
44:17
the ZPM from so, the ZZPM from Advance Piece and bringing it back and
44:24
so some people are going, well did the stuff in Atlantis happened before that
44:30
or after that? So I just want to play the audio and you can
44:32
choose your own adventure. You don't know where the enemy ships are or what
44:37
they're capable of. All we know is they cut through two of our three
44:38
or fours and as guardship and a fleet of Gowo mother ships, they could
44:43
be on their way here as we speak. We sent the best we had
44:45
to stop them. The IOWA is considering bringing the Atlantis ZPM to Earth for
44:51
use in the Antarctic Earth Defense System. Even if we had a ship,
44:53
it would take a minimum of three weeks for the ZPM to get here,
44:57
and there's no guarantee the ancient weapons platform Antarctica would be any more effective against
45:01
the ships than what we've already thrown at them. As usual, the IOA
45:07
is wasting their breath. You know, if I had the salaries they'd pay
45:14
those idiot blowheart politicians to put into my budget. I'm sorry, did I
45:21
say that. I laugh? That's so good idiot blow hard politicians. Yeah,
45:24
which, apparently, according to the commentary, Robert C. Cooper said,
45:28
they basically the reason they invented all these in frustrating IOWA characters is the
45:31
writer's way of expressing their frustration about the studio and the way they would interfere
45:37
with the show and cut their budgets and all that kind of So that line
45:39
of him saying, if I, you know, if I had the budget
45:43
that they paid all these idiots to tell me how to do my job,
45:45
yeah, I could actually do what it needed to do. That's what Cooper
45:47
saying. Well, if you guys didn't work for the fucking studio and I
45:51
had that budget to make a better Stargate show, I could make a better
45:53
Stargate show. I mean, but a great writer doesn't blame his pen made.
45:58
Yeah, But as for the Z I guess you can choose your own
46:01
adventure. Whether they've had the conversation in Atlantis about bringing the z z PM.
46:07
But see that in that conversation it was to stop the Raith attack.
46:10
Here they're saying it's to stop the Ario attack. So I think you can
46:14
safely separate in terms of real work. This is first one intern Yeah,
46:19
in terms of real world stuff. When these episodes add on television, they
46:23
this episode of next week's episode, did the opener for Starged Atlantis played back
46:28
to back on the same night in this episode than the opening episode of Atlanta
46:31
next week. There is a piece of dialogue from where that kind of explains
46:36
both yea, even though she's saying the Wraith are on their way, but
46:39
also or I have a foothold blah blah blah. Yeah, correct, And
46:43
this one's so vague that the next, like you said, next week,
46:45
is a little bit more detailed as to why they wanted to bring it.
46:49
Was this, I were just thinking about bringing it back for the obviously for
46:52
the for the all right, but it's like that could very easily fall down,
46:55
like I were thinking about it. Whereas next week, it's like,
46:58
oh shit, we do need this, yeah, we really do, you
47:00
know, rather than having that definitive and then get to this week as sorry,
47:05
this SG one episode having like, well we're thinking about it, so
47:08
yeah, yeah, yeah. I think by the end of this episode,
47:12
I even though it was still you know, part two of the finale,
47:17
in a way, it's still justified. I think its on existence. It
47:22
didn't feel like a ten minute epilogue to last season's finale just stretched out over
47:28
forty minutes, like I felt like, Okay, we've even all the just
47:31
in time sort of things, which I hadn't really thought about, but I
47:35
probably had like a lingering tingle in the back of my head, going this
47:37
is all said a lot. I definitely thought about it as far as Mitchell
47:40
and Jackson goes, like they were on their respective ships and they just escaped
47:44
in the nick of time. But I didn't even think about the cardness of
47:46
it all and the teal and then even then in the Kamakazi and the gol
47:52
mother ships. I mean there's a lot. It's a real line. I
47:54
can forgive the Carter Space one because it was like we're trying to work it
47:59
out all right times, desperate measures, Yes, do this crazy thing,
48:01
but it wasn't. The rest of them was like quick beam Yeah, yeah,
48:06
oh that was convenient. Yeah it was at it also like car least
48:09
Carter wasn't like ten seconds from running out of the air. Yeah, and
48:13
she had nine hours and it was like the last twenty minutes or something.
48:15
Yeah, before she well, like we were left with last season knowing that
48:20
she where she was and what kind of trouble she was probably going to be
48:23
on. Yes, it was up in the air as to which ship blew
48:27
up in which of our members, which likely died, and blah blah blah.
48:30
But then we get to this and it was like, Okay, we're
48:32
going to insert new scenes about what happened last years, Like they created the
48:37
drama of the ship exploding right before Mitchell got off, and then we created
48:42
the drama where why Jackson needed to have gotten off at the at the moment
48:46
that he did, as opposed to like, oh, well Mitchell jumped in
48:49
a ship twenty minutes earlier or whatever minute two minutes earlier to go off and
48:52
try and and fight. Yeah. It's like when you when you're drunk and
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you're like should I have another drink. I might be hung over Tom.
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That's morning, Brendan Season ten. Yeah, Rider's problem, not mine.
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Thank you for bringing up Mitchell. I was gonna let it slide, but
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now that you brought it up, I'm gonna I'm gonna double down. There
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was some controversy maybe between me and Craig. I guess it isn't here to
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defend himself, so it sucks to be him about the the idea that you
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know, it was supposed to be kind of an unknown whether it was the
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Odyssey or the Coral lev got blown up at the last of you know,
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and Craig was very much no, it was very much laid out that it
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was definitely the Coral v blah blah. And so if you go to the
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Gate worlds, yeah, even though you know that the Odyssey survives for quite
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a while. Yeah, I just I try not to think ahead for myself.
49:43
Yeah. Rewatch. So if you go to GateWorld and have a look
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at their synopsis for Camelot, it says the Ari ships with stand the combined
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assault from her vantage point in space by the Gate. Colonel Carter watches as
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one of Earth's Deadalous class ships is destroyed. Also, for some reason,
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there's a synopsis for from the University of Maryland for the episode of Camelot,
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in which they say, as Carter watches from the Supergate structure, one of
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Earth's ships is destroyed. We don't know if it's the Odyssey or the Cora.
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Lev hit the button, Mitchell, I told you, I told you
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so, Cooper now Branch, thank you for bringing this up. I was
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about to let it go, but you've got a forty second audio grab.
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I told you so. I told yourself. I told you I told yourself.
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I told you so, you so. Yeah. I'm not going to
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do the split here because I was discussing and I'm wearing a song. But
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I can bring it home with a little robot for if you want. Robot
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told you so. Thank you, elliot read What was that from Scrubs?
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She's wearing a thong? Yes she is. That was the best part of
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that bit I lift here. You know why we always talk about well,
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I always talk about the names of these episodes. Yeah, No, what
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was this one? Flesh and blood and blood blood? Yeah, that was
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the Russians. Yeah, but I guess it's a biblical term. I believe
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isn't it. I haven't looked into that, but I would have thought the
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Rusi is a better title. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean you're like,
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oh, yeah, that's when the rs comes. That makes sense. Yeah,
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given the whole thing about the big translation from one, all will learn
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is the direct translation of Osi from your language. And also when they took
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the baby from Valla and they didn't let her see it, I would have
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been like, I don't care if my half my womb's hanging out. I'm
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getting up to the flesh and blood. That's the flesh and the stuff that's
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hanging out of Varla. Oh, I guess in the fact that the the
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oris I is Varla's flesh and blood, So I guess if Yeah, yeah,
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it's a lot of it's a stretch, there's a lot of streps to
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get there. So it would have been nice. Yeah, it would have
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been memorable. Yeah, we'll just invasion. It could have been Yeah,
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it could be a lot of things. I want to know the question.
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All right, that's episode two hundred and twenty nine, Flesh and Blood.
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Indeed, Oh, hang on till got a haircut, just got a haircut,
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chopper coat, chopper combans start super Gate. Yeah, just to get
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everything. Yeah, I like Landry pointing that out and the super Gate thank
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you for the wink to the audience there. Landry, he really likes saying
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super Gate. Ja, we don't like Chappiico, we like super Gate.
52:52
Does that mean does that mean Landry can speak well? Did he direct did
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he translate that directly as atax? Did you read in a report? Read
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that in a report? And he's like, yeah, the chapical super d
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We got it. That was very Jack Nicholson. We'll be back next week
53:13
to talk episode one of season three of Stargates Atlantis. No Man's another great
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title. Absolutely, it's memorable, right, I mean it makes sense clearly.
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I mean it does when you watch the episode. One line kind of
53:29
well, I just mean where they are, yeah, in between, but
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the only reference it very quickly, and then I feel like the end of
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the season is kind of a little better. Yeah, like it would have
53:38
made sense to call that nom. Yes, so we'll get there. I
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mean, bring me some Thaws Hammer Thaw's Chariot. We all know those ones,
53:46
right, geez. Yeah, we're just gonna call this one literally,
53:52
Oh my god, o MG. Literally geek get into Gate get into gate
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