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Street Farbrengen Episode # 140: A Dead Ram's Horn that Runs The Universe Makes no Sense!! · ChabadLife.TV Street Farbrengen

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SPEAKER_01: At the risk of sounding like I know what I'm talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: I was thinking a lot on Rosh Hashanah.
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SPEAKER_01: The significance that on Shabbos we don't blow the chauffeur and the next day we do.
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, there's a lot of chassiris on that.
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SPEAKER_01: And but coming down to a personal level, I came to the following conclusion that the avoid of this year it's the year of allowing.
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SPEAKER_03: Allowing for what?
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SPEAKER_03: I'm excited to hear what uh what this Rosh Hashanah brought up for you.
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SPEAKER_01: Interesting way you put it, allowing for what?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, first let me explain to you my thinking.
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SPEAKER_01: Very short.
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SPEAKER_01: The first day Rosh Hashanah this year, Hashem does everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: What's the Pshat and Chasidis?
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SPEAKER_01: The oineg of Shaifer when you blow, it's taken care of by Shabbos, which means it's already part of the scene, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So then what's the next day?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: What what no there's Sikhs about, but what's the next day?
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SPEAKER_01: Simply put, the next day is could you be maqabul the first day that everything has been established and in a sense set up in an oining away for you.
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SPEAKER_01: And you don't quoting one of my favorite um I don't know what they would say them, famous people.
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SPEAKER_01: Um you don't have to hustle for your worth.
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SPEAKER_03: So you're saying you're allowing for Hashem to take care of it.
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SPEAKER_01: Just completely no you know what I I when I was thinking about it, this is one of the things I thought of.
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SPEAKER_01: Hasidis for so I mean you've spoken about it in different ways, but Hasidis for so many of us is have a question, and the geschmack is that you have an answer to your question.
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SPEAKER_01: Why do you have any questions?
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SPEAKER_01: And I can I I came to the okay, what do you mean why do I have any questions?
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SPEAKER_03: No, it's not even that.
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SPEAKER_03: It's just you you're saying it like as a that a person shouldn't have questions?
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SPEAKER_03: No couldn't?
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SPEAKER_01: Like if they actually Well shouldn't is already a word you know we don't use.
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SPEAKER_03: I know, but I'm saying like if you're you're saying if you're in toxic okay, so I no, I'm gonna say it like this.
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SPEAKER_01: And this is where it went, but to this final statement.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of times I think we find ourselves learning Hasidis to gather in all of these information so we should come to the level of Amuna or I put it a little bit more simple, that and I ask myself like this is Chasidis, does it say in Chasidis that the purpose of Chasidis is to be from?
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SPEAKER_01: No, but do we package it that way?
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SPEAKER_01: Do you think then if you learn Chasidis, especially a little BTU, that Chasidis will make me from and Chasidis will make other people from?
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SPEAKER_03: Well, yes.
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SPEAKER_03: I mean you're saying that that that's wrong?
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SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just asking the question.
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SPEAKER_01: Or making making the statement.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I don't know if publicly anybody would admit this in the I don't care about publicly in the world.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I'm saying How about yourself and I?
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, I I'm I'm gonna answer you, but I'm just saying this is a big um I think a big source of disagreement in the in the Chabad world.
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SPEAKER_01: How's that?
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SPEAKER_03: What we'll let we'll get there in a second.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay, but in short, the answer I believe is yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that certainly I've noticed it where I dove in that that learning chassidis is to make you from because all the people who are coming there were running away from Frumka.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: But and really it's the complete opposite.
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SPEAKER_01: You start off with absolutely no reason to ask any questions because you're starting off Lamailamina Sechel.
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SPEAKER_01: The simple Pshatabah is the purpose of Chasidis was to bring Lamay Lamina Sechel into Havanava Saga, not Havanava Saga to get you to understand and then get you to believe.
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SPEAKER_01: You start off, and and and I'll point to the one of the reasons why the that this fits with that I was saw is the Rebbe asks an amazing, amazing, puts an amazing thing together in a Sikha, and he says is creation a sechel dika thing?
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SPEAKER_01: No, absolutely not, right?
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SPEAKER_01: What's the and what are the terms we use is it's not sechal.
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SPEAKER_03: It was the taivah to create, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, but we know but the representatives, but we know what he wants.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but there's no reason for it.
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SPEAKER_01: Of course, so dirba tachtonim, if you if you switch the geometry and you say, What's the reason for creation?
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SPEAKER_01: Dirba tachtonim, what a great answer.
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SPEAKER_01: Now say now creation makes sense.
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SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the other way around.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no reason for creation.
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SPEAKER_01: And the Abishta wants a dirba tachtonim.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: That's the that's the the real sequence.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So and I realize that most of the time where I am formulating, um forming, constructing ideas and thoughts and chasidis in order to, in essence, to uh to come to some kind of some kind of end zone.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't even know what it is half the time, could be the answer.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's a hustle for your value.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know if I agree with anything you're saying right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Um That's good.
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SPEAKER_01: So we have we don't have to stop for bringing it.
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SPEAKER_03: You're you're saying how okay, how are you equating that to whether the goal is to be from or not?
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SPEAKER_03: How did you disconnect that?
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SPEAKER_01: Well, the the goal of being from would be that is something to make sense of life, to make sense of that's what that's what from kite means.
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SPEAKER_01: Wait a second, and then therefore make sense of being from.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: What?
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SPEAKER_03: Why?
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SPEAKER_01: Why what?
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SPEAKER_03: Why fromkite in by definition that you're using is what?
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SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
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SPEAKER_01: What is from kite?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, because I don't know if I'm understanding this at all.
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SPEAKER_01: Really?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, listen, maybe uh it's a new year and maybe I'm nuts or nuttier.
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SPEAKER_03: Or maybe we've just now transcended our previous levels of the side.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_01: We're like lobsters who have shed our shells.
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SPEAKER_02: Um they shed their shells.
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SPEAKER_02: What?
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SPEAKER_02: Do they shed their shells?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, and then they grow a new one.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Good.
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SPEAKER_01: It's an example used in AA for growth.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so uh what did you ask?
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SPEAKER_03: What is from what are you?
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SPEAKER_01: In other words.
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SPEAKER_01: Doing let's talk about let's go back to Rosh Hashanah.
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SPEAKER_01: You're sitting there on Rosh Hashanah.
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SPEAKER_01: You're saying you're crowning the king, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And you're asking for things that you need, etc.
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SPEAKER_01: etc.
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SPEAKER_01: So you know Chasidis says that on the night of Rosh Hashanah, on the night of Rosh Hashanah, the the everything is mistalic, it goes up to its source.
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SPEAKER_01: By the way, did you ask when that takes place on Rosh Hashanah's Bashabas?
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SPEAKER_03: I figured it was the same time frame, but right, there's no time frame.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_03: Whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm saying the same Shabbas is Shabbas.
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SPEAKER_01: When does Shabbas become Shabbas?
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SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So therefore it's right from the beginning.
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SPEAKER_01: So there's no room for hustle.
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SPEAKER_01: There's no need to hustle.
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SPEAKER_03: I got I got it.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
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SPEAKER_01: Even to make him the king.
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SPEAKER_01: I like this point but go back to what you're saying with the frum, because I'm still not giving us why a lot of people live their Yiddish Kai.
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SPEAKER_01: We can do Torah and Mitzvahs in a way that whatever your sechel, your container that your sechel has created, that it fits into it, and that's how you approach Tirun mitzvahs.
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SPEAKER_03: That's what you mean by from by just how you're behaving.
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SPEAKER_03: From is from is doing Torah mitzvahs.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So but So what do you need chasilis for?
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SPEAKER_03: No.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, on a simple level, a Litvak will tell you you don't need Khasilis.
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SPEAKER_01: All you need to know is know Halacha and do what you need to do.
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SPEAKER_01: What do you need chasilis for?
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SPEAKER_03: So you're defining from just by what you're doing in the Torah mitzvahs.
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SPEAKER_03: What else is from?
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SPEAKER_01: I keep Shabbas, I keep kosher.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, now obviously, for most people, let's say for our audience, you know, for all the people in the fruited plain of Chabad in Crown Heights and so forth, they don't struggle, I'm assuming, with kashras, or they don't struggle with should I keep Shabbas?
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SPEAKER_01: So think for yourself, what are those mitzvahs that you struggle to do?
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SPEAKER_01: Whatever it is, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We all struggle in some areas.
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where you have to crown the king.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: So we were saying last time, but you're saying that being from is logical?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying being from is logical.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm saying people's process and function is their whatever their logic is, is what they're learning is to compel them to keep on going in their Yiddishkai.
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SPEAKER_03: And you're saying that's a negative?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm saying it's the wrong geometry.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you're putting the cart before the horse.
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SPEAKER_01: The reality is creation makes zero sense.
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SPEAKER_01: Look at right?
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SPEAKER_01: Not because it has sense, but we don't know it.
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SPEAKER_01: Khasidis is saying there's no rhyme or reason, even from God's point of view, so to speak.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's my limited cycle completely beyond.
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SPEAKER_01: Totally.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, good.
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SPEAKER_01: So is that how you and I do mitzvous?
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SPEAKER_03: So the answer is no, because anything that you're gonna, and this is what I think you're saying, but I hear what the this point I agree with, is anything you're gonna anything that you're doing by rote that you're doing because it makes sense to you.
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SPEAKER_01: And so therefore doesn't mean it's do it makes sense.
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SPEAKER_03: No, I'm using two different adjectives.
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SPEAKER_03: One is like you're just doing it automatically, you're not thinking about it because it's just part of your way of existence.
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SPEAKER_03: And then the second one would be because uh the example that you always used in the past, which is like, you know, why why should uh married couple keep mikvah?
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SPEAKER_03: And in the past it used to be because God said so, and then now it's because you're gonna have better intimacy, you know, in two weeks or whatever.
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SPEAKER_01: One is God said so, then it went to your marriage will last longer, and the other one, um, yeah, you'll last longer.
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SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So so the so this this idea, is that what you're saying?
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SPEAKER_03: That the the logic overtook the the reason why you're doing the thing and you sit down to learn a mimer, right?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: What are what is your unstated or stated goal?
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SPEAKER_03: Mine or you're saying what it's like.
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SPEAKER_03: No, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: Mine is to be to feel connected to Hashem, to be connected, to understand my connection.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: To understand your connection.
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SPEAKER_03: I just said my connect, my connection, a Jew's connection with Hashem.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't say Jews.
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SPEAKER_01: Say I.
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SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm I want to say I, but it's important that it's clear to me.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't think you're the only one.
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SPEAKER_03: That Hasidis says that Torah and Hashem and the Jew are all one.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I know.
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SPEAKER_03: And so therefore you're theology.
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SPEAKER_03: That's not theology.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm saying I'm so when I'm learning Hasidis, my cavana is that I should expose that and have an understanding and have a feeling and having a connection to that reality.
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SPEAKER_01: Repeat that last line.
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SPEAKER_03: That I should have an connection, experience.
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SPEAKER_01: So you're saying the Haban of Asegel Hasekel gives you the connection to not gives you, you already have the connection.
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SPEAKER_03: I just said they're all one.
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SPEAKER_01: Wait.
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SPEAKER_03: But you have to understand it.
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SPEAKER_01: Why?
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SPEAKER_03: Because that's how you're going to first of all have a have a hergish of it, and then also that's how you're going to be able to see a change in your approach to life, you know, and pursuing.
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SPEAKER_01: So you just said what I've been saying.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna learn Chasidis in order for me to be, I'm putting it in in all-encompassing word, to be more Frum or more Mohudr, or better.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, all those things will come about, don't get me wrong.
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SPEAKER_03: But you're saying it should be what?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm saying that's all I'm saying is that's in a subtle way is hustling to be valid, to be worthy.
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SPEAKER_03: So what do you think it is?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so here the Rebbe says in this Sikha, he says that the world has no cr no sense.
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SPEAKER_01: Creation has no rhyme or reason behind it.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: And then comes the then the second day, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the second day is Lamata Lamaila from below to above.
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SPEAKER_01: So the Rebbe brings a Rambam, the famous Rambam, where he says, What's Chuva?
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SPEAKER_01: He says, Shofar is chuva, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Wake up from your sleep, arouse the you know, the people from the sleep, and we have the Vujram and says, When you coronate a king, you you play trumpets, right?
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SPEAKER_01: That's all very beautiful.
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SPEAKER_01: Before the Rambam writes, Yesh Remez to Chuva in the Misa of the in the Pasuk about, there's a hint in the Pasak about um Chuva from the about in the Pasik about shofer, he says, shofer is a gezer safhu.
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SPEAKER_01: Shofer is a gezera, it's a decree.
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SPEAKER_01: And he says, Yesh Remes, boy.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's a remes, there's a an allusion to what's going up, and that you have to wake up from your sleep and so forth.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So the Rebbe says, Why does he come and tell us that about Shuvah and Hilchashuva, and he's talking about shofar, the shofar embodies chuva.
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SPEAKER_01: Why does he have to tell us it's a gezeera sakkasuf?
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SPEAKER_01: Why does he have to tell us it's a decree from God?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So the Rebbe says, I'm I'm working it after the fact that the Rebbe said, what is I'm putting in my words.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you ever ask yourself seriously in the last five years?
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SPEAKER_01: Don't tell me when you first came to Chabat.
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SPEAKER_01: Did you ever ask yourself what the schnitzel significance is there in blowing a ram's horn that makes everything fall into place for 365 days?
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SPEAKER_01: No.
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SPEAKER_01: You never asked yourself that?
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SPEAKER_03: No, I just accepted it.
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SPEAKER_01: You accepted it?
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I didn't think about the question.
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SPEAKER_01: Does it make any sense to you?
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SPEAKER_03: I never said it did.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't ask you that.
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SPEAKER_01: Does it make asking the question?
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SPEAKER_01: Does it make right?
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SPEAKER_01: You didn't ask the question because it makes no sense.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You take the and not only that, but in the other places that everybody points out, you're taking a dead animal's horn.
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SPEAKER_01: And everybody gets all for hits about how you blow it.
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SPEAKER_01: You do it like this, you do it like that.
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SPEAKER_01: And I've seen them in certain places I've gone through where the rabbi comes back an hour after the minion and he says, We have to do it over again, right?
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SPEAKER_01: God's unhappy because I'm not I'm not an epicoris, but I'm just saying, right?
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SPEAKER_01: It's totally insane.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: And the Rebbe is saying in the Sikha, Einachinami, that the actual core the actual misa of all of Rosh Hashanah that is the beginning of creation is through blowing a dead animal's horn that makes no sense.
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SPEAKER_01: And that's what the Rambam is saying is it's a gezera succassive.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a decree of a verse in the Torah finished.
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SPEAKER_01: But there's a remes.
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SPEAKER_01: So, like you're saying, I now have to bring it down into context of something.
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SPEAKER_01: But the context of something is not in order to give validity to the gezera succassive.
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SPEAKER_03: What does that have to do with when I'm sitting down to learn Hasidis while my cavana is?
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SPEAKER_03: I was telling I pretty much my answer was effectively based off of what you quoted before.
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SPEAKER_03: So I'm asking you what should it be?
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SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't have to.
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SPEAKER_03: No should.
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SPEAKER_03: No, no.
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SPEAKER_03: There's an idea of how you should be sitting down to learn how to ask your locality.
18:57
SPEAKER_03: Well, you took you took issue with what I said.
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SPEAKER_03: I want to hear what how do you learn chasidas in the morning?
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SPEAKER_01: No, forget about how I learned.
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SPEAKER_01: What I realized on this Rosh Hashanah is I'm saying to you is that I was learning Chasidis in order to hustle for validity.
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SPEAKER_03: Why are you calling it a hustle for validity?
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SPEAKER_03: Because you're saying you just get a better answer for why you should be more Mahooter?
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SPEAKER_03: That's what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_01: Because it goes against the whole essence of creation.
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SPEAKER_03: But the whole essence of creation.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't hustle for validity.
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SPEAKER_01: Hustling for validity means there's a reason.
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SPEAKER_01: And you're either living in the reason or not living in the reason.
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SPEAKER_01: So I and it's core.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying you don't that you you shouldn't be living up to the criteria of tournament.
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SPEAKER_01: This is never my suggestion.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying to you, what's the what's the basis?
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SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like how often have you heard stories, read stories, and heard chasidim?
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe not anymore, but the Alta Khassim used to say that they wish that they could have the Imunapshuta like a Pashet yid.
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SPEAKER_01: What does that mean, a Pashat Yid?
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SPEAKER_01: That he's an idiot?
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SPEAKER_01: That he's a moron?
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SPEAKER_01: And he's just doing Torah mitzvah, never asks any questions, and they wish they didn't have any questions?
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SPEAKER_01: What does it mean a Pashat Yid?
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SPEAKER_01: Pashat yid means your first taking, their first step is based on creation has no secho behind it.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, now if creation has no secho behind it, that means I can't hustle for validity because there's no criteria.
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SPEAKER_01: Correct?
20:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I got that.
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SPEAKER_01: Does that make me stronger or weaker?
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SPEAKER_03: I could see why a person would say weaker, but obviously stronger.
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SPEAKER_03: Because now you're not coming from this place of needing the thing to validate.
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SPEAKER_01: Personal it's already not about you, then why are you doing it?
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SPEAKER_03: So so this is so this is one of the things that I've saying before about uh about what it means to be from.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't look at it in terms of like from of just a person's keeping shabbas and kosher, they already get a label.
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SPEAKER_03: The same idea is that like if a person is chabad because they wear a kabata and a hat and have a beard, whatever.
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SPEAKER_03: All these are silly definitions.
21:13
SPEAKER_03: Being from means being connected or like working on their connection to or revealing their connection to Hashem, and that's expressed through Torah and mitzvahs and everything.
21:28
SPEAKER_03: You're saying that obviously that's not a stero to what you're saying, that's obviously gonna be the outcome.
21:33
SPEAKER_03: But your your qualm with this is the is the starting point of it making sense, and that's why you're doing it.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: Correct?
21:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but maybe I didn't say that's the way you do it, but I'm saying that's the way most people approach things.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: But let me put it to you this way.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: So let's go back to Shabbas and Yom Risha.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is the avoid the of information.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Me of Yom Rishine this year was to be Meccabal that that which took place on Shabbos.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: That everything was done with Oinig on top of it already.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: So where's what what do I have to do?
22:21
SPEAKER_01: So the greatest oinig, I'm gonna tie it to the to my one of my favorite pieces from the the Kumsanamagan that we've spoken so many times about.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: But it's so where it's so deep, it's not deep, it's so s it's so sweet.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: So what is that?
22:38
SPEAKER_03: The snap.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: The yeah.
22:39
SPEAKER_01: Why did the first time God appears to Moisha in a cactus plant?
22:45
SPEAKER_01: So he says, besides the ration he brings, and everyone knows all the stuff, yeah.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: God comes down even to a small place, right?
22:51
SPEAKER_01: Low place, there's God even there.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: So he says it should be a tree because man is tree of the field.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: So he says, Mesha Bainu was in wonder.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: How is it possible that a fire shouldn't go out?
23:05
SPEAKER_01: Because a chokem with questions, his Geshmach is answering them.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Right?
23:13
SPEAKER_01: He accomplished what the Sekel is.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: The sechel wants to know the answer.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: So therefore, the passion and the passion is to find the answer.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: Once he has the answer, the passion goes away.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: So therefore, he has to go look for another thing.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: So he can't understand how is this fire keeps the fire is burning, but it's not consuming the cactus plant.
23:35
SPEAKER_01: So the he says the Abish was telling him that real connection to Elukus is not based on your questions and answers.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: It's Lamilamina Sechel.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so I'm saying your Lamilomina Sechel is am I willing to be macabul?
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Abish had Oinig just from creation on Shabbos.
24:00
SPEAKER_01: There was nothing to do.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: It's done.
24:05
SPEAKER_01: So then what am I here what how do I follow that up with?
24:09
SPEAKER_01: How am I gonna live that way the rest of this year?
24:14
SPEAKER_01: And the Rebbe says so many times Oynig.
24:18
SPEAKER_01: This year should be done with oinig.
24:21
SPEAKER_01: Who's Oinig?
24:23
SPEAKER_01: And where does the oinig come from?
24:26
SPEAKER_01: And what is oinig?
24:27
SPEAKER_01: I asked a few guys in shoulders, Shava.
24:29
SPEAKER_01: What's oinig?
24:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
24:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, good yeah.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: What do you mean what is oin?
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Well good meat platter, right?
24:39
SPEAKER_01: What's the difference between oinig and simcha?
24:44
SPEAKER_01: All the Abishta want.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: Ah, so the Magad's Vart, but no, but I was thinking of a different Magadzvort.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: Actually, you sidetracked me.
24:51
SPEAKER_01: I got snarled in your whirlpool of with passion.
24:56
SPEAKER_01: Um no, the voat where the magad where it says in the Gemara, you don't dovan accept with humbleness, with a koivid roish, with a heavy head.
25:08
SPEAKER_01: You have a headache.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you just came from the fast?
25:11
SPEAKER_01: You said you had a headache.
25:12
SPEAKER_01: So it says you dove with a headache.
25:15
SPEAKER_01: Rashi says.
25:21
SPEAKER_01: What's the abishh koivid roish?
25:25
SPEAKER_01: What happens when you have a headache?
25:27
SPEAKER_01: Why do you have a headache?
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Something's blocked.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: So he says the ibishdah is bleakvol.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: He wants to give, give, give, bleak vol.
25:35
SPEAKER_01: Then nothing should hold him back.
25:39
SPEAKER_01: And we and you're blocking him.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: The only thing that's creating blocks is we have met the enemy and he's us.
25:48
SPEAKER_01: So davin with the hairgish that the giver is like it's like a dam being held back, holding back all the water.
25:59
SPEAKER_01: But I'm the dam.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: So you're getting two things.
26:05
SPEAKER_01: Number one is amazing that there's so much available, waiting for me.
26:13
SPEAKER_01: And on the other hand, that's the Kivid Raisha of the Yabishta.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: On the other hand, what an idiot am I for making all these blocks?
26:26
SPEAKER_01: So all what's being asked, be the macable.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: No more hustle.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: Not even having to figure out your worries.
26:40
SPEAKER_03: My worries meaning you could have the worries and then the worries are there.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I can have they exist.
26:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying you could think about them and they could exist.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: No, don't think about them.
26:51
SPEAKER_03: But you could just push them aside that they're going to be taken care of by Hashem.
27:00
SPEAKER_01: Have been taken care of.
27:04
SPEAKER_01: You know, interestingly, somebody asked me on Shabbos.
27:10
SPEAKER_03: Rash Hashanah.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: Rash Hashanah Shabbas, yeah.
27:14
SPEAKER_01: He asked me or he told me that he's filled with normal worries, like you would call it, right?
27:26
SPEAKER_01: And you can't get out from underneath them.
27:30
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
27:31
SPEAKER_01: And I forget how he put it.
27:35
SPEAKER_01: And he saw that, by the way, as being a very low person.
27:38
SPEAKER_01: Not even because the content of what he was thinking, just the constant thoughts of whatever.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: And we opened up, if you go to Intanyan, chapter 27, he says, you do the mitzvs of Loisusru Akhray Luvavchim.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: When?
27:56
SPEAKER_01: Do the mitzvah don't of turn away from your desires of your heart, right?
28:02
SPEAKER_01: What's the context of the Al-Tarabah saying there?
28:06
SPEAKER_01: When you have worries in business uh while you're in the middle of business.
28:13
SPEAKER_03: What's the Pashat?
28:15
SPEAKER_03: You're saying where'd they come from?
28:17
SPEAKER_03: Because while you're working, yeah, yeah.
28:19
SPEAKER_01: Well, where are all your worries coming from?
28:21
SPEAKER_01: You're in the middle of your job.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Also, it says there about obviously in Millen the Alma, but uh matters of uh the world as opposed to matters of heaven, and which one are you worried about?
28:30
SPEAKER_01: But let's just talk in general.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: You start having anxiety while you're working, not because you picked up the phone and someone said, No, I don't want to buy.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: We're talking about in general.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: You're in the daily thing, you weren't thinking about anything, and all of a sudden these worries come up.
28:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay, yeah, been there.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: Can you relate that?
28:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
28:45
SPEAKER_01: What's our first reaction to that?
28:51
SPEAKER_03: I should start thinking about what I'm forgetting.
28:54
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
28:55
SPEAKER_03: I should be worried.
28:56
SPEAKER_01: You no, no, you're having worries.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:59
SPEAKER_01: What's your reaction to having the worries?
29:03
SPEAKER_03: More stress.
29:04
SPEAKER_03: And you get stressed about your worries?
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's kind of what he was asking me.
29:10
SPEAKER_01: And also, you're you're gonna judge yourself for having those worries.
29:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but he's saying then contextually they don't make sense because you weren't thinking about them.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: You weren't thinking about something specific that they came up.
29:24
SPEAKER_01: So the the the altar uses the pasik that we say, Loisa Surah, Luvavakum Bachray Neikem.
29:30
SPEAKER_01: Don't go after your your heart and your eyes.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Don't don't pr uh and the word is uh your zoin achrechem, your your your your lust for them.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: Now, what do most people think that means?
29:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but the Rebbe Alter Rebbe hit me very strongly.
29:50
SPEAKER_01: The Altar Rebbe says it's about having your anxiety worries while you're in the middle of your day, that you have the mitzvah to fulfill, don't go after your heart and what your eyes see.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: And you should be samach that you can fulfill the mitzvah of ignoring them.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: Oh wow.
30:10
SPEAKER_01: So how could he say that?
30:12
SPEAKER_01: That's a simple shatya.
30:14
SPEAKER_01: How could he say that?
30:14
SPEAKER_01: Because it's not about hustling.
30:17
SPEAKER_01: Are you valid or not?
30:23
SPEAKER_01: So I saw I'm talking too much, but too bad.
30:28
SPEAKER_01: I I saw a piece from uh in Lakut Dibhuram.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: Anyone who doesn't learn Kutadabhuram, I think doesn't understand what Khasidis is all about.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: I completely agree.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: Because Khasid is about a voida, and that's what he speaks about there.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: And it's so beautiful, it's so human.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: It's just so human.
30:46
SPEAKER_01: So he says So the Frika Rabba says, it breaks apart that there's um we know there's chuva tata and chuva illa lower chuva, which is all about the bad things that you did, and what what's the simple context of that is Kharata Allah Avar, you should regret the past, and maqaba al-Asir Allah, you should accept for the future.
31:10
SPEAKER_01: What's um chuva illa, I want to keep on going higher and better.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Higher.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: Toivysa, whatever toysa means, better.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: So the Friedik Rebba then says, you know what that does?
31:37
SPEAKER_01: When you're focused on wanting to go do better in the future, and you're focused on the better, and that's your that's your you're excited about that, right?
31:49
SPEAKER_01: You're doing that's your chuva.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: You automatically regret the good that you've already done because it pales in comparison to the good that you now focused that you want to do in the future.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: So you have a regret, yeah, but it's in context of the future.
32:10
SPEAKER_02: That's beautiful, right?
32:13
SPEAKER_01: That's I think Shabbos Sunday Rosh Hashanah.
32:19
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so now we have our avoider for the year.
32:22
SPEAKER_03: This is actually, by the way, I don't know if you remember us actually talking about this last time.
32:26
SPEAKER_03: No, but we left off saying that the hachlata that you were going to have had to come to you on Rosh Hashanah.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: That was the whole thing.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: So now we got it.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, that was so so well I didn't tell you my hachlata, but that was the No, this is the whatever your chlata is could be personal, but I'm saying this is where it's coming from with this new person.
32:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, part of my hachlata was to focus on this mitzvah that the Rebbe said, Other Rebba says.
32:53
SPEAKER_01: That all of your anxiety, all of the worries is um to be m is is t taken in a way of a Kabbalah of s the second day Yantiv.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:10
SPEAKER_01: And uh so um and it's so interesting to me how there was so much talk about the opposite before Rushan.
33:22
SPEAKER_01: Not by Chabad, by and even though it was spoken we spoke about it, even though it was spoken about in Chabad and C O L and so forth.
33:30
SPEAKER_01: It's it's it's um it it's it's yeah, it's it's uh this is the yeah and and Rabbi Ginsburg, I don't know if it's uh him exclusively, but I saw it from Rabbi Ginsburg says Teshnas puzz.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: And the word puzz, if you look in capital Y Tess puzz is pure gold.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Now you're in that space.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: What does pure gold mean?
34:02
SPEAKER_01: As opposed to impure gold.
34:04
SPEAKER_01: What is that?
34:05
SPEAKER_03: It means it's refined to the point of literally only being gold.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know.
34:09
SPEAKER_01: Why what's in gold that's when you have a gold ingot?
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's schmutz in it.
34:14
SPEAKER_01: There's schmutz in it?
34:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: It could be anything.
34:19
SPEAKER_03: It could be dirt, it could be silver, it could be bronze, it could be iron, it could be anything.
34:26
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
34:26
SPEAKER_03: It's not pure.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: It's not pure.
34:29
SPEAKER_01: So when you when you so on the market, when you have this ingot, let's say it's a thousand dollars an ounce.
34:36
SPEAKER_01: So let's say it weighs five pounds.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what these things are, but okay.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: How much does the ingot weigh?
34:41
SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
34:41
SPEAKER_01: Let's not worry about it.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:43
SPEAKER_01: Let's say it's five ounces.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: And it's selling at$1,000 an ounce.
34:48
SPEAKER_01: Is that a this ingot even if it's not pure, or only if it's pure?
34:53
SPEAKER_03: Only if it's pure.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: Only if it's pure.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
34:56
SPEAKER_01: So it's refined?
34:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's gotta be.
34:59
SPEAKER_03: And certified that it's refined.
35:01
SPEAKER_03: Because you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you when you look at the ingot, you don't see the schmutz.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: I mean per mavens can, but I'm saying naked eye.
35:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but I'm saying you what you would know if it's 98% pure or 99.9, you wouldn't know.
35:15
SPEAKER_03: No.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Now is this a game?
35:17
SPEAKER_01: No, it's real.
35:18
SPEAKER_03: It's very real.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: No, I know it's real that you can evaluate it, but it's like 99, 98.
35:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's gold.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: Are you losing?
35:30
SPEAKER_01: That's why you're not in the industry.
35:31
SPEAKER_01: Is it is it is it an idea that the weight doesn't reflect what you're buying?
35:36
SPEAKER_01: Or is it the purity?
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no.
35:39
SPEAKER_03: You want to buy gold, and you're buying something that is not completely gold.
35:44
SPEAKER_03: So therefore, you're overpaying for the gold.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: So you're overpaying.
35:51
SPEAKER_01: Now, do we do anything with this gold besides chase it?
35:55
SPEAKER_03: We just we just look at it and then decide that it's this amount of value.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: It makes no sense, by the way.
36:03
SPEAKER_03: But that's anything that's uh gold.
36:05
SPEAKER_01: Does the gold has no industrial application?
36:08
SPEAKER_03: I wouldn't say none because you could consider jewelry and no, besides jewelry.
36:13
SPEAKER_03: There's machinery that actually uses gold, interestingly enough.
36:16
SPEAKER_03: Tesla's um engines have gold in it, interestingly enough.
36:20
SPEAKER_01: Don't tell all of the thieves in the streets.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: Um uh-huh.
36:25
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now I'm just trying to wrap my head around it.
36:29
SPEAKER_01: So what does it mean a year of gold?
36:33
SPEAKER_03: Year of pure gold, you said.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:36
SPEAKER_01: Well, the Rashi says it means pure.
36:39
SPEAKER_01: And there's a there's a Pasuk later, Paz Tahira.
36:47
SPEAKER_03: So it's the other Pasuk says there's an all of gold was created for the base of Mikdash.
36:53
SPEAKER_01: I want to know what is a year of gold.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:57
SPEAKER_03: A year of I mean, deciding what we're utilizing the gold for.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: No, I want to know first note what does it mean?
37:06
SPEAKER_01: What would it mean pure gold?
37:10
SPEAKER_01: Forget about what you're using it for.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: No, you just said to me, don't rip me off saying I'm getting five ounces of gold when I'm only getting four point, I don't know, nine eight ounces.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: That makes like a hill of a beans difference.
37:25
SPEAKER_01: But apparently it does.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay, and that's the difference between purity and impure.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: So what's a year, if we're gonna call it schnas pause, and that means pure gold.
37:37
SPEAKER_01: What's a pure gold year?
37:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what do you think, Ruby?
37:42
SPEAKER_01: So what would be the schmutz in the gold?
37:44
SPEAKER_01: And what would be the gold?
37:48
SPEAKER_03: Well, connecting it to what we had said before, the the schmutz would be the uh what's the line you kept on using?
37:56
SPEAKER_03: The the vying for validity.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh hustling for your for your validity validity versus it starting from the pure starting point of Lamylin's.
38:08
SPEAKER_01: So once so is I'm just is gold the the like the top of the pyramid of commodities?
38:17
SPEAKER_01: Is it a commodity?
38:18
SPEAKER_01: It is a commodity.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: Is it the top?
38:21
SPEAKER_03: No.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: What's the top?
38:22
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: But I'm saying no.
38:25
SPEAKER_03: I'm saying there are things that are worth more per ounce.
38:28
SPEAKER_03: So I'm saying in that regard, it's not the highest in terms of value.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: What has more per ounce?
38:33
SPEAKER_03: Lithium.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: There's other things.
38:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
38:36
SPEAKER_03: There's a bunch.
38:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: But I'm saying nobody has the quantity that gold has.
38:40
SPEAKER_03: There's tons of tons of gold, no pun intended.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: Versus the other ones that are worth more per ounce are smaller quantities.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: That's why they're worth so much.
38:49
SPEAKER_01: I see.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: So on one hand, gold is like the thing everybody chases.
38:55
SPEAKER_03: It's like in the Mishka, and it's like they have whatever.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: It has so it's the thing everybody chases, but in terms of the marketplace, it shouldn't have the same, it doesn't have the same value in weight to the other stuff.
39:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: But yet it's the PS you know, you don't hear people saying he's got a lot of lithium.
39:15
SPEAKER_03: Depends on what circles you run in.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: But we say he's got a lot of gold.
39:20
SPEAKER_01: Gold is, yeah, gold seems to be the icon for wealth, right?
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:25
SPEAKER_01: We even say he has a gold heart, heart of gold.
39:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, and it doesn't make sense.
39:32
SPEAKER_03: Doesn't make any sense.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: Any sense at all?
39:34
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I think all of the markets don't make any sense, but that's different stories.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, but gold, go, the the value of gold makes no sense, yet it's so valuable.
39:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Right.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that what we said?
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Is the Pshat blowing the shofar on the second day makes no sense?
39:53
SPEAKER_01: That to blow a ram's horn, all of creation makes no sense at all.
39:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: And you mentioned the base of Migglish full of gold.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: The gold was made, the Gamara says, for the for the purpose of the gold of the base of Migglish, which is why it has value.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Not that everybody thinks that, but that's besides the point.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: So isn't that interesting?
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Having a golden year is a year that you're not what we're saying, you're not going to base it on hustling based on the values you're going to bring to the table.
40:30
SPEAKER_03: Beautiful.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: Right?
40:32
SPEAKER_03: Beautiful.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: And that's macabre, the essence of creation.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: And does that free you or free you or imprison you?
40:40
SPEAKER_01: That you don't, if you're in a place where you must find yourself a way to define value, it's very difficult to all of a sudden say you don't need to.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: If you're still stuck and looking for value.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: Right?
40:52
SPEAKER_01: So how do you go to a place where it doesn't need value?
40:54
SPEAKER_01: And then what does that do?
40:55
SPEAKER_01: Isn't that I was also thinking, isn't that what Atenat Savim is?
40:58
SPEAKER_01: We're all one, it doesn't matter from the wood choppers to the to the heads of the tribes.
41:06
SPEAKER_01: Everybody is one.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: How can you all be one?
41:09
SPEAKER_01: There's much more value to a Tamil Khaqim than there is to a wood chopper.
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SPEAKER_01: Right?
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: But we say no.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: Why not?
41:18
SPEAKER_01: Because all value has no value.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: It's all human, it's all gemachte value ultimately.
41:24
SPEAKER_03: Not the intrinsic value that we know.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: There's no intrinsic value.
41:28
SPEAKER_03: No, the only intrinsic value.
41:30
SPEAKER_03: Not intrinsic intrinsic worth, excuse me.
41:33
SPEAKER_03: Well, that's the same thing.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: No.
41:34
SPEAKER_03: A person has intrinsic ver worth.
41:37
SPEAKER_03: He has value based off of what he does, but the value doesn't equate to his worth.
41:46
SPEAKER_03: A person is an in inherently worthy.
41:51
SPEAKER_03: He doesn't have to do anything to be worth because God created him.
41:54
SPEAKER_03: That's it, period.
41:56
SPEAKER_01: But I'm saying the value that he has is what's coming up for me is Canada and Norway Norway and I don't know, maybe places in Oregon.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: They are deciding that you can end your life because you don't like the way you're living.
42:13
SPEAKER_01: Right?
42:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:14
SPEAKER_01: And then the whole abortion um argument.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: Sure.
42:19
SPEAKER_01: And what do how what does Halacha say?
42:23
SPEAKER_03: It's not yours, it's not a good thing.
42:25
SPEAKER_01: There is no intrinsic value other than you do exist, which is the most intrinsic value.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: It's not by what you put out.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: So how dare you end it?
42:35
SPEAKER_01: Right?
42:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:37
SPEAKER_01: So um so so so yeah.
42:45
SPEAKER_01: So I was struggling a lot with I I Daven my first day this year in a uh, how should we say where the sermon was all about establishing your worth?
43:01
SPEAKER_01: So because how else do you understand all of the Gemara?
43:05
SPEAKER_01: It's all about shoig and this and the the whole nine yards.
43:11
SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it's it's uh so why so why is it if you can't if you live in a place where you don't have where value doesn't exist why does that make you now priceless?
43:36
SPEAKER_03: It's not that it's not that it makes you priceless, it's that what is the the starting point?
43:44
SPEAKER_03: What is the understanding that you're coming to the table with before you start using value and measures of success, you know, appropriately?
43:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, there there's this there's this guy that l let me put it.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: A different way.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: There's um a doctor who uh his name is Zach Bush and he went from the Bush family?
44:12
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
44:12
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
44:13
SPEAKER_01: But he maybe from the beer company.
44:15
SPEAKER_03: He used to um run um ERs and he couldn't take it anymore, so he switched to hospice.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
44:26
SPEAKER_01: And he said up.
44:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, he said he was like it went from trying to save lives and very often failing to having an entirely different um goal in mind because hospice is mostly about comfort and you know quality, but acceptance of death, effectively.
44:53
SPEAKER_03: And what he said is that one of the universal things that he saw over and over and over again in hospice is that a short time before the person passes away, they get this like state of euphoria, and where they just see their life as being perfect.
45:15
SPEAKER_03: And he says, minutes before they would be talking about their regrets, and this person didn't talk to them, and this person that did this to them, and this and this and this and this, and he says, but then there's this these these moments, and he says, for a few minutes where they realize and accept that their life was absolutely perfect for them, and that they that it was he says it's like a transcendence of um a transcendence of of predator and prey or victim and uh and perpetrator.
45:51
SPEAKER_03: And he says there's a transcendence that that comes that they realize that it's the human experience that they have of being able to just be alive is what they come to a a deep, deep appreciation and and recognition of.
46:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's the second day of Rosh Hashanah, and we shouldn't have to find it in our last moments.
46:23
SPEAKER_03: So so he says one of the things people don't realize about hospice is that 10% of patients in hospice end up going home.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: And he said, but they have that experience, and he says they're changed people.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: So like he just said, we don't have to we don't have to actually die.
46:40
SPEAKER_03: We could go home and we could live with that perspective and have a year of real Eineg and Manucha and So why does it say we were learning in the Maya, but why does it say that we start off the year impoverished?
46:55
SPEAKER_01: And then right it says is missing the the olive.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: Um we start off, the Gamara says, supplicating that we have nothing and we end the year with wealth.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: Right?
47:14
SPEAKER_01: Which we say many places.
47:16
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't mean the end of the year 300 days later, but it can mean the next second, right?
47:21
SPEAKER_01: So using your scenario that you painted so beautifully there's the moment that they transcend when they realize they have nothing to bring to the table, anyways.
47:36
SPEAKER_01: Because that's not the criteria.
47:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:41
SPEAKER_01: Saying you have to hustle for your value means that you will have value, but I don't have now.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
47:46
SPEAKER_01: But I will have.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: That's that's a false narrative.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: That's a measure of success that you created.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: This is actually what he's doing.
47:53
SPEAKER_03: It's like gold.
47:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but but I'm saying all of the measures of success that we have are our imposition of what success is.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: Right.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: Whether you were successful, whether you had a good this, whether you had a good that, you know, ultimately it's made up.
48:11
SPEAKER_03: And what what I took from this, and I like how you're putting that, that this is what you know, Sunday was, you know, second day Rosh Hashanah was.
48:20
SPEAKER_03: But the way when I heard this, and I was very moved by what he said, was that I think this is like one of the most beautiful descriptions of what Aleph and Tagola really means.
48:31
SPEAKER_01: Means what Zach Bush said that?
48:34
SPEAKER_03: No, this is what I said based off of what he said, that what is the description of Aleph and Tagola is Gullus is still here.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: The world doesn't actually change.
48:48
SPEAKER_03: It's the Aleph, it's the Alufa Shaolam that you're putting into it of the perspective that this is in fact all perfect and Hashem, and literally Hashem is dictating every single detail, the highs, the lows, the this, the that, but the reality itself doesn't change immediately, but it's the perspective of your your contribution and allowance to be part of existence is the uh is that first step of of appreciation.
49:19
SPEAKER_01: So so to go full circle of how we started, I think it just it just um came to me as the Rebbe is saying in that Sikh, he says the world, the creation has no no reason behind it.
49:35
SPEAKER_01: But we know what he wants.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: So the no reason is the Muna Lama Sechel.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: And what you're saying about Seychel is he wants a dirba tachtun.
49:50
SPEAKER_01: The sechel is the dirba tachtun.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: But that putting it into Seychel doesn't validate Lamila Mina Seychel.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:58
SPEAKER_01: So yes, it should be a year of gold where you have lots of gold ingots in your vault.
50:05
SPEAKER_01: I mean, and even though the fact that gold has such value is insanity, and there's no reason for it to have value over any even lithium is more precious because there's less of it.
50:16
SPEAKER_01: But gold is our you know, is our thing in the human race.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: You should have all of it, lots of it, and even be able to explain how you got it.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: But it's all based on you don't need it to find value.tv.