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Sarah Lawrence Cult with Chris Franjola and Captain Sandy · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Where did you end up going for it?
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  Speaker 1: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
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  Speaker 1: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else. You
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  Speaker 1: have to put me in touch. What's it called? It's Dunaidial. Where?
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  Speaker 3: Dunaidial.
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  Speaker 1: There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I got it on Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 4: Lift?
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  Speaker 1: Please.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
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  Speaker 1: No. Dundale Cars.
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  Speaker 2: You couldn't possibly go anywhere else. Heather MacDonald has got
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  Speaker 2: the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald.
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 3: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: You're so lucky today because not only do I have
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  Speaker 1: more juicy, hilarious topics with Chris Frangiola, but I also
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  Speaker 1: did a great interview with Captain Sandy from Below Deck.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get started. All right, you guys don't deserve
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  Speaker 1: this show, but I'm going to give it to you anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I want to do a follow-up on the loofahs. Have
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  Speaker 3: you heard about the loofahs?
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  Speaker 5: I did. This is a swinger thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a swingers thing. I've heard from people who live
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  Speaker 1: in the villages of Florida that are furious at me
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  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about this. Really? They're saying it's not true.
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  Speaker 1: People put it on their golf carts and have for
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  Speaker 1: years because they're older people and.
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  Speaker 3: Also because golf carts look alike.
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  Speaker 5: To wash the golf balls?
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  Speaker 3: No, I think to identify which golf cart is theirs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Different colored loofahs.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, sure.
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  Speaker 1: Um, however, someone also sent me this where you can
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  Speaker 1: see there's, they're at a store and there's very few
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  Speaker 1: loofahs available to purchase.
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  Speaker 3: They're sold out.
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  Speaker 5: Everything's sold out. There's nothing on the shelves of the store.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're right.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay. Anyway, it's not a bunch of old people
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  Speaker 1: getting their different colored loofahs to identify what kind of
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  Speaker 1: swinger they are.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Then I heard from this girl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I work in the villages, Florida as a
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  Speaker 1: bartender driving home from work tonight, listening to your podcast
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  Speaker 1: and almost died when you talked about it. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: bartender in the villages and I can tell you that
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  Speaker 1: the loofahs are real. So she's saying is real. I
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  Speaker 1: have another angry juicer Cooper saying it's not real.
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  Speaker 5: Can I stop you? I don't know what the villages are.
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  Speaker 5: Is that like a part.
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  Speaker 3: Of community in Florida of older people?
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  Speaker 5: Okay. Got it.
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  Speaker 1: Predominantly older people, I guess.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Put them in glasses. Um, I can tell you that
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  Speaker 1: the loofahs are real on cars, especially on golf carts.
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  Speaker 1: Key parties are still a thing, but there's more. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the pineapples, and yes, they're everywhere. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: let you know that even inside the grocery store, if
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  Speaker 1: you have a pineapple in your cart, in the top
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  Speaker 1: part where the baby would sit, which is what I
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  Speaker 1: always said, it means you're open to being approached by
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  Speaker 1: others and looking for partners.
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  Speaker 3: There's so much.
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  Speaker 1: They have a whole secret code as far as what
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  Speaker 1: the women wear, like gold lame shoes. That's a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Not sure of the exact meaning, but when I tell
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  Speaker 1: you that these people in the villages are partiers, they
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  Speaker 1: love to party. They love their pineapples, too. Pineapple earrings,
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  Speaker 1: dress shirts, shoe ties for men. So many, like spring
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  Speaker 1: break for seniors.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, another person that said you're, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't true. It's the most respectable place on earth.
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  Speaker 1: This is just a dumb rumor. So, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: If you are a loofah.
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  Speaker 4: Scrubbing.
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  Speaker 1: or just putting on your golf cart and you are
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  Speaker 1: a swinger.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just hear from you.
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  Speaker 1: Write me yourself and say, yes, I'm 68. I started
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  Speaker 1: swinging 25 years ago with my husband. I've had over
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  Speaker 1: a hundred partners. We absolutely love it. This is how
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  Speaker 1: we do it. Not ashamed of it. We found like
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  Speaker 1: 90 people at the villagers or not.
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  Speaker 5: Okay. Now also I'll just say this in, in defense
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  Speaker 5: of the pineapple.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It's a hot fruit right now on all things. Like,
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  Speaker 5: if you go to any home goods or any of
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  Speaker 5: these Michaels art supplies, the pineapple's on everything.
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  Speaker 1: And it always has been. It's also a sign of hospitality.
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  Speaker 5: It's all right.
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  Speaker 3: But isn't being a swinger the ultimate?
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  Speaker 5: Nothing's more hospitable than that. But, all right, can I
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  Speaker 5: ask you? I don't even know what actual swinging is,
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  Speaker 5: I guess. Is it you take my wife and I
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  Speaker 5: take your husband? Or is it... You watch me do
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  Speaker 5: your wife or husband? Like, what exactly is it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm so glad you asked that.
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  Speaker 1: And that is why they introduced the different colors of
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  Speaker 1: the loofahs. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: Because the different colors indicate that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it does?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And I went through it with Sarah, so you
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  Speaker 1: can just go back and listen to that episode. But
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  Speaker 1: it is literally like that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like, white is just invite me to the party. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I want to watch you. I might
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  Speaker 1: just want to have a bite to eat, but I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to be invited to the party. Then there's another
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  Speaker 1: color that's like, I am probably going to make out
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  Speaker 1: with my husband while watching other people do stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Then the next one is my husband and I are
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  Speaker 1: definitely going to fuck. Don't touch us, but we'll fuck
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  Speaker 1: with other people fucking in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Then there is, um, you can come around and like
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  Speaker 1: touch my boob or give me a shoulder rub while
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  Speaker 1: someone's going down on me, you know, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then there's full blown.
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  Speaker 1: I will have full blown sex with a stranger and
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  Speaker 1: I don't care. And then there's the bisexual ones. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what the, that's why, because people like you, wondered
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  Speaker 1: for so long, and then someone said, let's make it easy.
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  Speaker 5: With loofahs.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like that makes it more difficult, but whatever,
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  Speaker 5: that's fine. It all makes me feel very boring.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's like, I'm colorblind.
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  Speaker 5: And my back, like I'm not loofahed at all. Like
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  Speaker 5: I have dead scaly skin all over my body. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: It all makes me feel very boring because none of
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  Speaker 5: this interests me at all. Not at all. Not even remotely.
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  Speaker 5: I have no desire.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, when I interviewed a former Mormon, I
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  Speaker 1: put her on. A former Mormon. A former Mormon. I
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  Speaker 1: asked her about swinging. It was Whitney Rose from Salt
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  Speaker 1: Lake City. She said, you know, it does happen because
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  Speaker 1: these people get married so young.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe being that swingers, some swingers, these ones, might
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  Speaker 1: have gotten married back in the day much younger than
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  Speaker 1: people like you and me. Yeah. So if you never
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  Speaker 1: had much experience and you both are like, God, this
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  Speaker 1: is my high school sweetheart.
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  Speaker 3: Now we're whatever. Like, is there more out there?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. That could be.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's a good explanation.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Ben and Jen... according to TMZ, have bought a
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  Speaker 1: new house. It's a brand new house built on an
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  Speaker 1: acre in Pacific Palisades.
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  Speaker 3: She is selling her Bel Air.
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  Speaker 1: Home for $ 40 million something and found this cutie for
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  Speaker 1: $ 32 million.
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  Speaker 5: That is a cutie.
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  Speaker 1: And it's got a gym and it's got everything. And
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Pratt lives in there.
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  Speaker 5: He does?
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  Speaker 1: He lives in Pacific Palisades. He's at Irwan every day.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope I think they should buy there. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fabulous.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they are, right? Didn't they confirm it?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I don't know where the closest Dunkin' Donuts is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, right. I'm going to get my Dunkin'. Oh, boy. Well,
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  Speaker 5: good for him. At least he has another wing of
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  Speaker 5: the house he can go to when J-Lo gets, you know,
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  Speaker 5: I feel like there's, every now and again, I'll be
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  Speaker 5: head-butting between the two. Like there was at the award show.
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  Speaker 1: You see the new movie that he has coming out?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's about Nikes.
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  Speaker 1: It's about Nike.
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  Speaker 3: So he plays the Nike owner.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Matt Damon plays an agent.
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  Speaker 5: Already in. Already in. I think it's a series. It's
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  Speaker 5: going to be on Apple TV or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's a series?
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  Speaker 5: It's a series, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's better as a series. I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be a movie. And I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think we've seen the whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: I believe it's a series.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Every guy is going to love that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely. Sounds great.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really care.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it looks good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's... I've watched it.
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  Speaker 3: It's a history of how it all happened.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think that's kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting story.
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  Speaker 1: It looks good. So, Kendall Jenner got some hate or push.
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  Speaker 1: She did a weird photo.
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  Speaker 3: Shop.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: How her hand looks like a long alien.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that?
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  Speaker 3: But I don't really understand what she.
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  Speaker 1: Made smaller than. I don't really know how Photoshop works.
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  Speaker 5: I don't either. What is that supposed to be?
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  Speaker 3: Who are you if your life is a Photoshop detective?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, God. Yeah. I didn't even... I mean, I've seen...
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  Speaker 5: pictures now but I would have never noticed that ever had.
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  Speaker 1: I I mean is it really like I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know why like I would think okay she would make
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  Speaker 1: her ass bigger or something like why why your hand
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  Speaker 1: long yeah I once did a photo with Peter and
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't photoshopped and my fucking hand and arm looked
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  Speaker 1: so weirdly like skeleton long like it looked like one
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  Speaker 1: of those stretch dolls like yeah and I was like God,
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  Speaker 1: otherwise this photo's good, but I think someone's going to think, like,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell did she do with her weird long arms?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know. But, yeah, that's very strange looking.
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  Speaker 1: Who cares? This was kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So they're doing the Joker 2, and apparently extras are pissed,
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  Speaker 1: but they can't piss. They're not getting their proper bathroom breaks. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: they complained or after they came back from the bathroom,
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  Speaker 1: they'd be drinking water and someone would be like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? Why are you drinking water? We're not
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  Speaker 1: going to, you're not going to.
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  Speaker 3: Be able to go to the bathroom for like another
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  Speaker 3: four hours.
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  Speaker 1: So, or five, I don't know what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Anyway, I just thought that was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: That is interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I mean, I've been an extra.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever been an extra?
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  Speaker 5: One time. It was the worst experience. It's the worst experience.
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  Speaker 5: Like the fact that there are people who do it
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  Speaker 5: like as a career. They have their folding chairs. They
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  Speaker 5: have their book. They just do it. They're professional extras.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: It's got to be a worse life than being a
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  Speaker 5: Photoshop detective.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my mom and dad's friend, they had this
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  Speaker 1: couple that had been married forever, and she was Native American.
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  Speaker 1: And as a second career, after her kids were grown
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  Speaker 1: and everything, she was an extra. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: On some show that kind of needed Native Americans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And she, like, loved it. Oh, really? Because, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she brought her book. She brought her, you know, her thing.
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  Speaker 1: She never was an actor before. And you get fed
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  Speaker 1: and this and that.
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  Speaker 5: What were you an extra on?
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  Speaker 1: I was an extra trying to get my SAG card
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  Speaker 1: because it paid nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I was an extra on Wayne's World 2.
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  Speaker 5: So was I. Wayne's World 2. I think we've talked
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  Speaker 5: about this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did talk about this. And that's where.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was another one, but the last day
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  Speaker 1: that I did it, oh, I did it on, I
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  Speaker 1: was on a beach scene with 90210. Okay. And I
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  Speaker 1: have to say, Ian Ziering, I think he was kind
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  Speaker 1: of eye-effing me a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 5: I can see that.
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  Speaker 3: And so that was it.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was supposed to do one other day,
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  Speaker 1: and they said, like, it's a carnival scene, and you
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  Speaker 1: have to go, and it was like Alameda. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: was so far, and you have to be there at
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  Speaker 1: 6 a.m., And I just didn't show up.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's what happens.
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  Speaker 3: And they never called me again. And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I just don't want to do this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I found somebody that I could pay that
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  Speaker 1: worked at SAG that could get me a SAG card.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the way everybody just did it. Or you
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  Speaker 5: could pay $ 2, 000. Like, I'll do that. Instead of having
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  Speaker 5: to humiliate myself on the set of Wayne's World 2.
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  Speaker 5: Which they promised me Errol Smith was going to be there.
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  Speaker 5: that's where I went. They're like, and you can get
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  Speaker 5: to see, not only can you be an extra, you
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  Speaker 5: get to see Aerosmith play two songs. And they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was when I, that's when I didn't
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  Speaker 1: go back. I think I did 90210 first. And then
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  Speaker 1: I did Wayne's World. And I think I was supposed
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  Speaker 1: to go to the concert scene. The concert scene, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I chose not to go to that because the
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  Speaker 1: night before, because they're like, okay, we want to use
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  Speaker 1: you a lot. And, um, I also want to say
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  Speaker 1: Dana Carvey, I think, kind of eyeballed me a little bit. Really?
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  Speaker 1: I remember being in this diner scene. They were in
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  Speaker 1: a diner or something, and I was in that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, he was in Waynesboro. Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just like eye contact.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Like, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But I remember they were all like, didn't you bring
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  Speaker 3: your Tupperware? And I go, what?
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  Speaker 1: No. And all these people were dressed up like rockers,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they were rockers anyway. that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: depressing because being a rocker was already really out of
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  Speaker 1: style by the time I was like doing this movie
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  Speaker 1: and they had this guy had a duffel bag worth
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  Speaker 1: of Tupperware stuff and he'd go around in the craft
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  Speaker 1: services and he was just doing tons of like pastas
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  Speaker 1: and stuff and that's when I was like this is
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  Speaker 1: so depressing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah like homeless people I mean it's yeah it's a
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  Speaker 5: sad like let them pee though I know let them
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  Speaker 5: pee I mean, this is one extra complaining that he
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  Speaker 5: wasn't allowed to pee. It's one true, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and I also want to say, and if we
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  Speaker 1: know who you are, you're never getting asked again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God, I just remembered this story. So I
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  Speaker 1: saw a TikTok of this girl walking, pretty blonde girl
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  Speaker 1: walking in a sunny street. Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: And how she's a writer.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, I watched it.
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  Speaker 1: Do I send it to you?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I wanted you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so she's a writer and she's like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just found out that the project that I was
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  Speaker 1: working on for free is probably not going to go now.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm writing on this other thing for these people
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  Speaker 1: that pay me like nothing. And I just think being
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  Speaker 1: a writer is just like so hard. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I want to do it anymore. And these people
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  Speaker 1: that I work for are these big wigs and they
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  Speaker 1: just expect me to write for them.
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  Speaker 3: And they don't. And anyway, she goes on.
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  Speaker 1: And my comment was, don't worry, girl, they're never hiring
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  Speaker 1: you again. Like you literally just did a tick tock.
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  Speaker 1: Of how you think that the world is against you.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: You're a young writer who hasn't been staffed yet.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: Who hasn't been, you did not create a show.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: And the amount of shows that I've pitched and created
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: and worked on that never came to fruition.
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the business.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: Like, hello, that's the business. And now you complaining boo-hoo
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: on TikTok.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Good luck.
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking like, wait a minute, is this somebody I'm
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: supposed to know? Like, is she a legitimate writer who's
• 14:18
  Speaker 5: been on a thousand shows? And I looked her up
• 14:20
  Speaker 5: and it's not the case.
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, it's a really hard career. It's
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: a hard career because when you make it, it's fabulous.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: And you do make a lot.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: So unless you're willing to put up with working for
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: nothing and having years of rejection.
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: But just doing it because you love it and you
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: like going to those writer meetings where you're getting paid
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: nothing because you're around other brilliant writing people and you're
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: making connections. Yeah.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Go quit, go quit and put on, you know, some
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: weird outfit and try to be a TikTok star.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know what to tell you.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, but then I definitely think complaining about
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: your boss, like there's no way that someone didn't, if
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: I saw it, there's no way that someone did not
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: see this that actually knows her and is like Chris
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: or whatever, like you, Chris, I got to show you
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: what's what, you know, Sarah did yesterday on TikTok. All right.
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe they were thinking of staffing you.
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: Was it like a viral video too? I don't know.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: We can check because I sent it to you, but
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know that it was viral.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: But I mean, I put that as my comment.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't mean to be like an old
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Gen X, you know, bitchy person that had to work
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: for where I got, but I.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Am an old ex Gen X. Yeah.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I am an old Gen X person that had to
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: work for where I am. And I don't feel sorry
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: for you. Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: Idiot.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. Students protest after New Hampshire school district bans urinals. Now,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I've looked into this because the first comments were like, oh,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: my God, they're getting rid of urinals because trans men,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: biological women who are trans men now can't use them
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: or don't want to see that. I don't know.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Then other people like that's not even true. This is misinformation.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: They're just they just feel like the locker room shouldn't
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: have as many people being naked in one spot.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: And.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I always thought urinals were just weird to begin with,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: but I'm not a dude.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: That you're just naked dick is out. Like, I just
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: think it's weird.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But so if you're, I mean, maybe not banning them,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: but just like, I mean, I talked about this in
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: my standup, but like, yeah, if I was to start
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: a restaurant right now, I wouldn't have a men and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a women's. I would have like three smaller or four,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: maybe four smaller individual restrooms.
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I think a lot of them do now.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: I think that's more fair, but you know who doesn't
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: like it?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Women.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Men.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Men.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: People like Peter.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Why not?
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Because in the past, there was never a line for
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: the men's. And now everybody has to wait in line.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, I see. Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: In the past, you could just go to, if there
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: was a traditional men's, you could go in and there
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: is a urinal. Or there just aren't as many people there.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: People are quick.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Guys aren't putting on their makeup.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Now, he's got to wait for whatever person is in
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: there taking their time alone in the bathroom.
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm all about a urinal. I hope they
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: stick around.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Whip it out.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: It works. It's a good way to pee.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: I feel like this is one of those stories where
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: they just come up with, like, we need something to
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: be angry about. Let's find something. And they find some
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: weird story.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Or it could be one of those things that people
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that are issuing this have to have something that they
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: bring to the table.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Like, what's our new policy? This is our new policy.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Now you know I've done something for seven months while
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I've been paid in this government job.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes it's that, and they're like, Let's just
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: rearrange the bathrooms. This girl did this viral speech where
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: she is someone who was on the swim team with
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the Leah Thompson.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Who is– Leah Thompson is the actress from Some Kind
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: of Wonderful. Leah Thomas, I believe.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Leah Thomas. Was the trans woman, born male, swam as
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a swimmer, as a man for her entire adult life
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and was like ranked 500th and then got on this
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: female team as a woman and put on like a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: one piece suit and let her hair grow. And then
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: won all these trophies that we want, you know, these girls.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So all these girls that were supposed to be ranked
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: now longer ranked because they lost it by one point. And, um,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not for it. I'm totally against it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And like, I'm just going to say that and come
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: at me. It's a different body. It's a different wingspan.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: It's a different chest.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Lung span. It's just like, you know, but they, but
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: her speech was really good. And, um, But part of
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it was that she had to be in the locker room.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: With Leah Thomas.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: With Leah, who still, you know, had male anatomy. She
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: wasn't asking for a urinal to be put in there,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: but hey.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Right, right. Yeah.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there's a big thing going on. Like, are
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: we just like in the process of this kind of like.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: The other thing about this is when is this Leah
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: Thomas going to graduate college? I feel like. I mean,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: isn't it just four years? I feel like your story
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: has been hanging around for like nine. Eventually college swimming
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: is over. Like this has got to be over, right?
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what? She shouldn't finish college. She should
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: go and transfer to the cheer junior college and just
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: join cheerleading and do that for another seven years. Yeah.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: They seem to be there forever too.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: She's a good athlete and maybe that'll be fun. Well,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, they got to figure something out. Glad
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not athletic. Um, Okay, speaking of more school stuff,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: did you hear about the principal and the gym teacher
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: who were fired after taking videos of themselves having sex
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: in the school bathroom?
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I heard about it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So during, I don't know if it was during
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: school hours or if they were just like, meet me
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: at 3.30 in the bathroom. But they would have sex
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and then the guy's wife would film it.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Oh, so this is.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: How many loofahs did they have on their car? oh
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: oh really god everyone's out there having a good time.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I mean some of these and you and then it
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: reminded me of the famous story of the of the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: cop i know in mississippi and it was tennessee yeah
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and there were so many intricate stories to this this
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is the female cop who was really screwing everybody and
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: i read it and i like literally had to do
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: like a You know how when you ever see like
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a movie about a detective trying to figure out a crime? Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: That's what this was like.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Where you literally had like.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So her last name was like Megan or something. So
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: she was giving oral to this guy, Lewis Powell.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: Is this the police officer?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Who, I mean, there's just so.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Oh, you really do have it all figured out like
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: a crime scene.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: But it's been a while since I read it. She
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: tried to break up.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But first.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: And she's married, right? And the husband decides.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: She was married. She tried to break up with this
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: person that she was doing oral to. And he got
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so depressed that he got drunk and he got in
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: a car crash. Then she started having sex with this guy.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Wait, is this all on video? Weren't they videoing this too?
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Is this a video?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Would it be the office of camp? The body camp?
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Then she was having sex with this guy, Larry.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Larry. And then she was having a threesome.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: And these are all cops.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: All cops. All cops. Then she was doing a threesome
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: with this guy, Patrick. And he wanted her to make
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: out with his wife. But the wife wasn't really sure.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Then it was like, then she wanted her husband, Jed Hall,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: to join in a foursome. That would have been a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: swinging thing. So she would have been having sex with
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: this guy, Patrick. and his wife, but her husband Hall
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't that into it. So they were trying to have
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a foursome, and then there was some fetish stuff, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: then she would just do blowjobs at a jacuzzi party
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just to be friendly.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: You're passing out apps. She's passing out BJs.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But in the end, even though her husband, who goes
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: by the last name Hall, did not want to have
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the foursome, he was fine with watching her get together
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: with the the husband and the wife, and he's sticking
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: by her since she got fired.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Well, as shallow as this may seem, every time I
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: read any type of story like this, if the players
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: in the story are not attractive, I'm out immediately. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the moment I looked at this police officer, and I'm
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: not saying anything, but I'm saying, not my type, so
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: I was not interested in the story right away.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I think she's a very interesting type.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: She's not traditionally hot.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: But she has a cute face.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I could see it.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: But it's like a little geeky of a face.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a little geeky face. It's a geeky.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Right. And I feel there's something so interesting about a
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: geeky girl.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: That super horny slut. Yeah.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: It's like a hidden, like, whoa.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I remember finding out that some geek was a huge
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: slut in college, and I was like, really?
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: It was the plot of every movie in 1988. Rachel
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Levin Wood would take off her glasses, and I'm.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Like, what?
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: Or one of those actresses.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Rachel Leigh Cook. That was her name. Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And I also think sometimes... A little of a geeky
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: girl that might not have been that popular. That is
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: how she does get popular. Right.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: I believe that's it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: And she is.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Liked and it's something that she's good at.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: And she learned it like you would learn baking a pie.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Some people have the best pies in town and some
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: people give the best BJs.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Right, right.
• 23:58
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• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: what would you do if it was given back?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: He said, I have a work dad.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I need a home dad.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: What happens next?
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: When I came in, he started crying.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: go through. It's about what happens next.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it shakes.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: This is once again... An interesting thing to me. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: was shocked that this became such a big story because
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: it was all over the place. It's people fucking at work.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I feel like that's an age. That happens everywhere.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: This one, too, happened in cop cars and at the station.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I know. So that's what makes it bad, just like
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the school.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: I understand why it's all bad. okay but i also
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: did they also said that happens in a sec but it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Happens that good morning everywhere happened at a station and
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: it happens at the school yes what do you.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Want to have the fact that i was so shocked
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: that people fuck at work is beyond me and.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Then don't complain that nobody wants to work.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: In the market let him make it more fun and
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: people come work in your.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Place yeah you can't you know i really.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: Don't want to wait to offer a blow job i'll
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: take a blow job once a week and he had
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: a another fifty cents Right.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: You can't screw when you're at home doing Zoom.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Here's the problem.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: They'd rather stay at.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Home and screw their one partner or nobody on Zoom.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: If you're going to make them commute.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Then.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Got to give them something in the end.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: The kids have found a new way to get wasted.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Oh, finally.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: But it's like a healthier, more alternative to what we
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: would do.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Of course, Jägermeister and.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Ever clean, ever.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Clear, ever clear.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: No, that was like a vodka crack. What was it?
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Anyway, this is called a Borg.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's a water jug.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: And it's with what? What is it?
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: It's a, a water jug. They get blackout drunk using
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a gallon size jug, filling it with half water and vodka,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: then adding a flavor and some electrolytes to help them
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: with hangovers and And professionals think it's actually better because
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: there's less risk of someone drinking tampered because they have
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: their own jug. Oh. So they bring their own jug
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: with their cap. You know how everybody has a big
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: water bottle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just do that but
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: with alcohol and they keep their own thing contained.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: It's a mixed drink.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: It's also good for COVID.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: You're not sharing it with a punch bowl.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Also everybody just has a milk jug.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's how they're getting wasted. Blackout Rage Gallon.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Oh, Blackout Rage Gallon.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Sounds great.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Gross.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Did you hear what the best seat in a plane is?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: To live? A plane crash? Yeah. I don't know, but
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: I would imagine it's probably the worst seat comfort-wise, right?
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: It's a middle seat.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think I'd rather die.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I know. I know. And honestly, does anyone ever survive? Like,
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: it's so rare that people survive a plane crash. I
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: guess there's been a couple. Very rarely. Anytime you hear
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: about a plane crash, you're like, and everyone's dead.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been somewhere there's like that crazy turbulence.
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Which is really, and not to be a dork, but
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: it really is why you should keep your seatbelt on
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the whole time.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Because they can't give you the warning.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And you see people just flying up and hitting their head,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: and that's how you're going to really get hurt.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: You won't die, but you'll be really hurt that way.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: I think they're just trying to sell the middle seat,
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: you know, because nobody wants the middle seat. I mean,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: sometimes you get these guys who are just gigantic, and
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: it's got to be so uncomfortable.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We always, if we don't do first class, which
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: most times we don't, Peter will order the two. He
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: gets aisle and I get window. Yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Helping that no one gets that middle seat.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Right. But when someone comes by and they like see
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: that we know each other, they're like, oh, do you
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: want to? And we're both like, no.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're good.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I would rather like breathe the air of a stranger
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and be not in the middle. Yeah.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because I like the window because I like to
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: be like tucked away.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: And then Peter, of course, you know, in case there's
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: an emergency, he's got a let's roll, you know, like
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: he's got to be on the outside.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Sure, sure. I understand. I can't do window anymore. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: used to love a window. Now I feel I get
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: a little claustrophobic. Yeah, it just happened recently.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I think it could be happening to me too. Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: And then I saw another comedian.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not enjoying Chardonnay as much either.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: What's happening? Oh, no. Really?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, this could be.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I know am I gonna transition you could be swimming
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: soon I got I got really freaked out one day
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: on a plane I was like I gotta get out
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: of here like I was really freaking out like I
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: never had anything like that panic attack or anything but
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: then I heard Nate Bregazzi comedian yeah talking about it
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: in one of his specials and he was saying that
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: All of a sudden, it just happened to him. I'm like, oh,
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: maybe it's one of the things just all of a sudden.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Happens with age.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: With age, maybe. Yeah.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, honestly, it's probably better to be on
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the outside because also as you age, you probably shouldn't
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: get up like every 90 minutes.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And just walk around a little.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Walk around.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Just go to the bathroom.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know?
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: I agree.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Cheesecake Factory. Who doesn't love it?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Who doesn't? Well, this girl said she was at a
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Cheesecake Factory and- got a mac and cheese ball, like
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: a crust. Sounds fucking delicious.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: In it was an entire rolled up glove.
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: Rubber glove?
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Like a cooking glove. Yeah. Like a plastic cooking glove.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Not like a dishwashing glove.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: That's disgusting, but I mean, you can see how these
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: things happen. I know, you can see how it happens.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, what do you expect?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: It's just people working there.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: They like mass produce this stuff and it falls in.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Like they can't stop the whole production.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I don't think it's like mass-produced. I mean,
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: it's in a kitchen at the place.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but they're frozen. They've come from another place. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: don't think they're making the macaroni and cheese balls in
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: the back.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: You don't?
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: No.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: I think it's a frozen. Thank you, Annie. Definitely. 100% not.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It's like finding out Santa Claus.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Is not real.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: What?
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: I think it's a frozen macaroni and cheese balls made
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: at a factory somewhere. Mass-produced. And they drop it in
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: hot oil at the place. You think they're actually making
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the macaroni and cheese ball back at the kitchen at
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: Cheesecake Factory?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because I think they do the avocado rolls
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: like that. You can't have an old avocado hanging out.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Yes, you can. Yeah, frozen avocado.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I need to hear from someone who has worked at
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Cheesecake Factory that is going to let me know what
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: is the truth.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Well, as a person who's worked at many restaurants, and
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: usually not chain restaurants like this, but I'm safe to say...
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: What the hell?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: I'm going to venture to guess... And nothing against Cheesecake Factory.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: I love it. I'm a fan.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: But I'm going to say 90% of their stuff is frozen.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Well, I love the skinny menu. And I get the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: grilled chicken, Asian grilled chicken in a butter lettuce taco.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Three of them.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Totally good.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, once they put the calories, I couldn't order
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the avocado. Killed it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Killed it for me.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Sitting at a Cheesecake Factory bar. And sometimes you
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: have to do it in every city you go to
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: to perform. Sometimes it's only showing. The greatest. They bring
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: that bread, that brown oatmeal coated bread. Yeah. Listen, Cheesecake Factory,
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you how to do your business,
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: but your butter, sometimes a little too hard. Where are
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: you freezing that? The North Pole? I mean, come on.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's frozen solid. I know. You can't even
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: get in it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Could you leave it out before?
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, put it in a microwave or something.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: They didn't even get a refund. They didn't even take
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it off.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that they wouldn't take it off.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: I need to see a picture of the glove.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know if there's a picture. I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: think the New York Post might have been desperate for
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: some stuff. But I love a good Cheesecake Factory story.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to say that I'm a fan. So
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: I don't want this to reflect poorly on my love
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: of the Cheesecake Factory.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've always talked about the Cheesecake Factory being very
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: similar to the inside of Britney Spears' house.
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Yes. It's a very interesting architecture in the Cheesecake Factory.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: I don't really understand. Yeah, the architecture makes no sense
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: to me of a Cheesecake Factory. It's got a very weird...
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: Like Temple of Doom theme going on.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I just wonder, when will they ever redo it?
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I don't think they should.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Why not?
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: You know it when you walk in it.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's not like people aren't going to Cheesecake Factory because there's.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: A rubber glove.
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: They're always packed.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: If somebody planned to go to Cheesecake Factory tonight, us
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: talking about this is not going to change their plan.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: So why would you spend... millions of dollars redoing it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: If you're going to change something, change the way to
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: let me, alert me that my table is ready.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: Then with that buzzer that scares the shit out of
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: me every time it goes off. It's been going on
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: for 20 years now and every time it buzzes, I
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: still freak out.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Amazing. This was another weird thing that seems so strange.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: This girl said that She goes, a big F you
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: to the people who walked out. $ 300 worth of food
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and alcohol. And the card declined. And I had to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: pay part of the bill since I was your server.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Not only did I lose out on a $ 55 tip,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I lost 70 of my own money because of y'all.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Treat your servers better and don't order shit you can't afford.
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Have you ever heard of that as a server?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I have. Oh, really?
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Well, yes. I would imagine this is probably a family-run
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: restaurant where, you know, I'm going to assume it's... Like
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: a Greek-run restaurant. Greeks are bigger in the restaurant business.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: I worked for a Greek for many years in a restaurant.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: And anytime anything went down, like they got to get
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: their money. And they don't care about the waitress. She'd
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: quit and we'll fire somebody tomorrow. But if your credit
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: card declined, I would imagine.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: So it must have been declined.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: You got to give me something, baby.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Give me.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: So she was waiting on them. The card was declined.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: And then they just got up and left while the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: card was being processed. Right.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: And by the time she came back, they were gone,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: and it didn't go through.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: So I would imagine. Like if it was a chain restaurant,
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: a cheesecake factory.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: But how are you supposed to keep them in there?
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: You're not.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: But they're still out $ 300.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: They're still out $ 300. The family-owned restaurant, somebody's going to
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: have to pay for it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Well, that really sucks.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: It does suck.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's not right.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if she should have. She should have
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: exposed the place.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Now, this couple, they went to Starbucks.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And for a long time, when you go to Starbucks
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and you pay with a card, there wasn't an option
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to tip. Yeah.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: You just say, like, okay.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: So in the last six months, they now have the
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: thing where they turn it around and they go, it
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: just has to ask you a question.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: And now they have the one, two, three, four tip.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And you have to, right?
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, otherwise. Always.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: A dollar, whatever.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But I guess this guy didn't know, but I guess
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: he maybe, they don't know if the guy at Starbucks
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: did it or him, but he must have pressed.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Like four, four, four, $ 4, 000 tip.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: And his card automatically got charged.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: And then they were about to go somewhere, and their
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: card was declined. And they couldn't straighten it out in
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: time with a credit card company, so they had to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: cancel a trip.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, no.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: But this is what happens with these things. Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: With the turning around. So I asked Annie.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: She used to work at a coffee shop. And she
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: always felt weird turning it around and being like.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: It is weird.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: But I go, but yeah, but you made a lot
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: more money having it that than had they not.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: There's no way....
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Because you just feel it less when it's on a card.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Because now you've paid $ 10 for your thing and then
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, two more? I don't know, you just
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: feel it. So I think it's a genius thing. But
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I think we've talked about this before, but some of
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the places.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: It starts with, you know, like 10, 15, 20, 25.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Some of them have literally started.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: With 22, 25, 30, and 33%.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Because I think they think automatically it'll just go to
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the first one. Well, the first one is 22%.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: And you're like, all right. Now this like $ 4 thing
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: is literally $ 6.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Like what? I know.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think the hope is, and I'm going
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: to defend tipped employees.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: That it all comes back. It's a wheels of commerce. Yes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Now that tipped employee makes more money. They spend more
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: money on your product.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: And everybody's doing better. But I don't know if that's
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: necessarily the case, but that's the hope.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I love it too for that exact reason. And, you know, again,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: it doesn't affect the store owner. Right.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Like it doesn't cost them anything.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: And I like that you're dealing with people because there's
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: so many places now that it's just you go to
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: the restaurant at the airport.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: It's an iPad.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, we got it.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I still want to see like a face and I
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: still want to like talk to.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And so I don't want to get rid of humans completely.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: No, I know. Me neither. Yeah, I don't even like
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: the ring up your own thing at the grocery store.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: I don't like it.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: I never do it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: It's too much.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Kids like to do it, so I let them do it,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: but I don't like to do it. Lady Gaga's dad
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: said that New York smells like weed everywhere. Have you
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: found that since you've been in New York? I just
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: smell it everywhere I go.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: Weed, actually kind of a nice scent. I don't mind
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: the scent of weed. New York City has smelled like
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: far worse than weed, if you've ever been there. Everyone knows.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: It's pee-pee, a lot of pee-pee in New York. So, yeah,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's too bad at all.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Fine.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, a little follow-up on the horrible Idaho murders. Now
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the roommate who said that she had eye contact or
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: thought she had eye contact, I don't think he saw her.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: She actually thought, and this is what I initially always thought,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that it was partying.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, partying.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And at one point she even yelled out and was like,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: keep it down.
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Unbeknownst to her, they're getting killed. And so then, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: she's wasted.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: She's like, keep it down.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: And then she sees this person leaving in a mask,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: and she thought he.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Was just partying.
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, why wouldn't she think that?
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: And now she has said, which is what I always said,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: she passed out.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And then woke up at like 11.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Went back to bed, woke up at like 11.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: She definitely did not think that what she saw was
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: someone who murdered her friends.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: According to this latest thing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: The whole thing is just, that's a crazy story.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Really is. This is just a picture of Madonna. And
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I want to just say one thing about Madonna's look.
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Because everyone's very affected.
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: You can't say anything. She's very angry. She says your age.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you right now.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Get rid of the red hair.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Okay. Get rid of the red hair. Go back to blonde,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: whether it's your own hair or wigs.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Get some bangs. Oh, all right.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: It's very, it's very it.
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: Rocky Dennis?
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: It's very Rocky Dennis. It's very it with the red hair,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: with the huge forehead.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: And like, I mean, this is blurred, but just like,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: look at that. And then the no eyebrows. Then having
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: no eyebrows also makes your forehead look bigger. Yeah.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And it's so pulled back and it's so shiny.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: So... I just think we can fix this problem with
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: just blonde.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Hair and bangs.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I'm here to help.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to shame.
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: I feel like as I get older, my eyebrows are
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: going away. I used to have a nice eyebrow. Now
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: it's kind of almost gone. I hear that happens with age,
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: but there's really no way to get it back once
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: it's gone. I would add light eyebrows to begin with,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: but now they're disappearing, and it's a sad situation.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Chris, I'm so glad I don't have my makeup back
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: here because I would draw.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, I would love it.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: The best eyebrows. That would look so amazing. If I
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: had an eyebrow pencil here.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: We are doing that next time you're here.
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: I would like it because, and then I also feel
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: like I see guys who get there, you know, they
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: must go through the same thing I'm going through and
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: they do it. And then it looks too much. I
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: need a middle ground. I mean, honestly. I can't have zero,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but I gotta have something.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: If we went to a hairdresser or somebody. I think
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: if you did a little bit of brown hair dye
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: on your brows, I don't think you need to do
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: what people are doing when they tattoo more brows or anything.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: But if you just darken.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Them a little.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: But I don't, I see, I don't see any difference.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think you look like Madonna. I don't like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: don't think, no.
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: Well, I'll say this. My wife got me something. She
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: gave some sort of brow thing.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, serum to make it grow?
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: No, just like a little makeup that I will apply.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: Like before shows, like not on a regular Tuesday when
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: I'm walking around Home Depot. You know, I don't want
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: to look like somebody, like I just came from a
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: drag brunch. And it's my day off, you know. Oh,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I could, I could. Oh, but anyway, so that, but
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I do it like before shows a little bit.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Along with your self-tanner?
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, the self-tanner. It's a whole routine.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: For those construction workers, they didn't even appreciate it. Stolen
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Youth on Hulu.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: This was the story. I talked a lot about it
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: on this show about this girl had a bunch of
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: friends and they lived at Sarah Lawrence College, which is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: like some ridiculous $ 85, 000 a year.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: It used to be all girls. They let guys in.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Their theme is, You're different. Well, we're different too.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: So it's like, honestly, not what I would want.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: The complete opposite of what I experienced at a Pac-10
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: school with sororities and fraternities in Southern California.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Like this would be my worst experience.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Just like these. Anyway, so they're there. And this one
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: girl is like, oh, my dad's going to come visit.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: The dad starts like living there, living in the sophomore
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: year housing, but the school owns it. The only thing
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: that makes that kind of important to the story is
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: that the college then was, I think, held responsible when
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the parents eventually sued the college.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Because it was on housing that they owned that nobody checked.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: And there was people writing letters. Their friends were like,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I think there's something weird going on. Then he takes
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: them to this other apartment in New York. And he
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: really mind screws them as a cult. He starts sleeping
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: with one girl.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: The father.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: The father. And also these guys, which are all interviewed
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: in this, which is pretty remarkable. Yeah. If you followed
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the story, you know, there was one awful part of
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the story that I don't think they cover. Where they
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: made one boy who thought, they're not boys, they're like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you know, in their 20s. But he said, I don't
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: know if I'm like gay or not. And the guy's like,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're gay. But if you think you're gay,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and made him like wear a dress and like penetrate
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: himself while the group watched. What? Yeah. They don't feature
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: that part in the Hulu doc.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, unfortunately.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And I don't think– and I'm like– I was going
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: in and out of consciousness and then I had horrible
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: college dreams as I watched it because I was like
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: falling asleep.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: But it's three parts and it's just insane.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And then he would like– he just completely mind
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: screwed them and he would be like, you know, you
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: scratched this pan of mine. And then he would just
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: berate them. Why did you do it? Why did you
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: do it? And they're like, I don't know. I'm a
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: bad person and all this stuff. And then he'd be like, well,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: now you owe me this much money.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: How are you going to pay them off?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Then he takes them to this property and makes them
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: like dig holes and lay down pipes when these kids
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: are like– From these super liberal rich white families. They've
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: never worked in any kind of construction. And then he'd
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: be like, you did it wrong. Now you owe me
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: all this money because you damaged my property.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: And the only way that you can pay it off
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: is to be a prostitute.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yes. And so then this girl ended up being completely
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: sex trafficked from him.
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: And then she was like recruiting. It's a bit, it's
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: long and I haven't watched the whole thing. And, And
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: writing it out to the point where she made him
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: like a million dollars.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: She just had to be at a hotel.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm just thinking back to the parents.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's crazy.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: That have a smart kid.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: That get into school.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: And possibly pay the $ 80, 000. One girl I think had
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a scholarship. And then he would call them and he'd say,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: he'd call the parents. And he'd be like, hey, I'm
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: just going to use your name. Annie is not coming
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: home for a break because she hates you. She hates you.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: You are a really bad mom. You are a neglectful mom.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And if she comes home, she's going to probably kill herself.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So I've been talking to her every night, convincing her
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: not to kill herself and to not hate you. And
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: then he would manipulate the poor parents so much that
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, my God, thank you. Thank you
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: for saving my daughter. Meanwhile, he's mind screwing them, making
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: them work like.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: And, but there were all these friends and stuff that
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: tried to tell the school, tried to tell other people like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: this isn't good. Eventually every, there were three boys, each
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: boy one day just like got up and left.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So the boys actually got away.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: They were not being sex trafficked. The girls then lasted. Anyway,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: he got 60 years. Thank God.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: The guy.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: The guy. Oh, wow. But it's such an intricate, insane story.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And they have, of him I believe it's the actual
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: audio of him just berating them for hours like how
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: the mind control works yeah and the fact that now
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: which I always think is so interesting is when someone
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: leaves the cult and things like yeah this is what
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: I thought because you always are like When you hear
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: about it, you're like, how did someone believe this?
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: I always think about that. How did someone believe it?
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: Even the parents, like when you were saying the parents.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: I'm like, if anyone called me, I'm like, oh, fuck off.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: And I would go to the college and get my daughter.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: I think the biggest threat right now that parents face is,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: will my child kill themselves? Yeah.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: And they use it for everything.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Right, right. Yeah. If you don't go along with what
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: your child wants.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: If you.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: If your child isn't happy, if your child... And, you know,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: then what will you do with yourself? Like.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, he played on the biggest fear that a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: parent has.
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: And it happens. And so many kids in college, like,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: have mental illness and are unhappy and lonely. And you're like, oh,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: my God, you know. It's just.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: It's insane.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: Do you think you could be... manipulated into a cult
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: of any kind? Do I, like, do you think you're
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: too strong willed? My, your mind is too sure. Or
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: do you think there's a way they could get you
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: into a cult? I always, every time I watch these
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: cult documentaries, I'm like, I see where I would be out.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm like, nah, that's where I'd be out.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: I did go to a Mary Kay brunch once.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: It's kind of like the same thing.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: And I know, so I actually don't think I could
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: get sucked in.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Cause what?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's always, I, I'm, I would get approached because
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: I always want to be that person that was like open-minded.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And I also would always, I would be approached by
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of Christians. Yeah. Because I do, I did
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: like like Jesus talk.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: There was a lot of Jesus commercials during the Super Bowl.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: There were two Jesus commercials during the Super Bowl.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: And one Scientology. So you pick your choice.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Jesus, I wanted to show you this one thing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Where is that? Okay.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Um, I guess it was lightning that hit the big
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Jesus in Brazil.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: I've been there.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: And so a lot of people were posting like, you know,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the end is near Jesus.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: Isn't screwing around. Like he's trying to tell us something.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I guess other people wrote like this has happened a lot. Right.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And this isn't the first time this happened with the Jesus.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to write like, this is me performing
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: stand at the Tempe Improv.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: I think Jesus just made a joke about it.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: No, but I did post something after a couple glasses
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: of wine and then I removed it where I highlighted
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: a comment of someone being like, this chick doesn't believe
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: in Jesus. And it just made me so mad because
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: as someone that's like honestly believed in Jesus for the
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: whole life and given a lot of money to my church,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: supported Catholics and Christians, the whole thing of me fainting
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: and people thinking that somehow like Jesus was mad at
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: me and I did that and I was like anti.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it bothers me so much.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It just does because it's like, don't say I'm not
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a fan of Jesus. But anyway, speaking of the cult thing,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: going back to that. So let me tell you about
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: my Mary Kay brunch. And I make no offense to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: anyone that works Mary Kay, and I'm sure it's very
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: different today.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: We had one woman in our neighborhood who got the
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: pink car. Isn't that Mary Kay? We had to sell
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: so much that you got the pink car. She was
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: the envy of the neighborhood.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it anymore because I'm
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: assuming you could just go online and order whatever you want.
• 50:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Back then, the people would have like an extra bedroom
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: that was like a store. Yeah. And they would be like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: I'll get you this and this and this and this
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and then, you know, convince other people to sell it
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: and also, but also sell the stuff.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Now I think we have a good knowledge about multi-level marketing.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: So hopefully if you're thinking about getting into something, you
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: really can, I don't want to like piss on all
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: of it but just like you can end up spending
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of money and never selling any of it
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: okay so anyway but Mary Kay seemed to have been
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: around and the products were okay so I had this
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: girl that worked at Robinson's Bay with me in the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: corporate and her mom was a big Mary Kay person
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and she was gorgeous girl she's anyway so she was
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like um you know I'm gonna just start selling Mary
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Kay I'm like and so She's like, Heather, I really
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: want you to come to this brunch with us.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm hating my job. I don't know if I've
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: been fired yet.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I like makeup. So she invites me to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: this brunch.
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: And the woman does a speech. And their whole thing,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: God first, family second, career third.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: Mary Kay?
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: That's the Mary Kay motto.
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't know it was a God thing.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Back in 1992.
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that. So it's a religious thing?
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: And a lot of Mormons get into multi-level marketing because
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: it's a big push to say you can do it
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: from home. You don't have to leave your kids 10
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: hours a day and you can have your own business.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And also you'll have an immediate network if you're a
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: mom and especially if you're at a church.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Okay. You're always meeting people. You're always kids' new classroom
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: every year of like potential people that you can get
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: under you. So they go through the whole thing and
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the girl comes over and she is just amazing. beautiful
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and so sweet. The head lady that gave you the speech.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: And she's like, so what do you think? You know,
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: what do you think? And I'm like, oh, I don't know.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: You know, cause the initial to join is, you know, whatever,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: a thousand dollars or something and you get all this stuff.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: And my friend was really organized and she had like
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a room of all this stuff. And I'm like, I
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: share a room with another girl. Like, I don't know
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: where I could keep all this Mary Kay stuff.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm like, yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like, and also I'm like, my
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: friends are like, We go to the mall and we
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: buy Mac. Like I don't know that we're going to
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: be into like Mary Kay. But the thing is I
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: had been exposed to Mary Kay since I was nine.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Because my sister and I went to some place and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: they said, get a free facial. And we were like,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: want to get a new facial? We put our name in.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: And the girl called my sister. You know, we had
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: our own line since we were like eight.
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Phone line.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: Phone line. Because my parents used their line for real estate.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: So my sister's like, yes, we'd like a free facial.
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: So here comes this girl, this woman, like a full
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: grown woman, comes to our house.
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: Oh my God.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think she knew we were little girls.
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: So we're like nine and 11.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: She sets up the whole thing to do like the
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: facial and all this.
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: And, you know, so she explains the story. She does
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: the whole presentation.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: The way Mary Kay came up with this is that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: there was a cow on her property and accidentally something
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: fell on the cow's skin and she noticed that it
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: got all like soft. And from that, she created this
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: line that like, you know, made your skin beautiful. Cindy
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Crawford had a thing with a, with a melon.
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, not a cow.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford and her skincare line. That was all on
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: like infomercials.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: It was with a French guy.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And he said, there was this French, there was this
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: melon that would, would go rotten. And then we put
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: something in it and it lasted so much longer. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: that's what we're going to put in your skin.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: So, and you can look at Cindy Crawford. So anyway,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I like, I knew, so I'm like, okay. And so,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and the girl selling it didn't have great skin.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: And she had like glasses and she was just like trying.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: Like an old Mel.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Like a mom. She was trying to like, a young
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: mom just trying to like drove all our way to
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: her house.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Hoping to make a sale or recruit us as salespeople.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: But we're 9-11.
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Did you get the facial?
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: No. Oh, yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: We did a facial.
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: They'd bring out these plastic pink things with like all
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: the different makeup. Yeah. And then they would test like, ooh.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And they did this whole thing back in that day.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Are you an autumn? Are you a fall? Are you
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: a warm? But the woman was in your home? She's
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: in her home.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: But weren't your parents like, why is there an adult
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: woman in your house?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: This is the best. My parents were complete latchkey kids.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Gen X kids are complete latchkey kids. And we were
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: completely latchkey kids. My parents were doing so much real estate.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: They were gone all the time. There was no fax machine,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: no computer. Everything had to be done in person, every show,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: every presentation. So we're home, you know, my mom rolls
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: up at like eight at night. The girl's been there
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: since five. And she's like, what is going on? And
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: then the ladies and, and, And we're like, don't worry, mom.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: It was free. We're not buying anything from this woman.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: And my mom is like, absolutely not. Like we are
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: buying a shit ton. This woman just wasted three hours
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: of her life. So she's, and then she's like, okay.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: So my daughter says, she's like, and you know what, anybody,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: this is what you can do if you want to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: sell it. And my mom's like, look, I'm a realtor.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sell it. I don't think, I
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: don't think I want my daughter to earn nine to 11. Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: We also don't have an extra room for all the products.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: But we will buy all their cleansers, all their moisturizers,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and like some lip glosses. I mean, we look like
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore in Pretty Baby. Not Drew Barrymore, Brooke Shields.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Like we have full, like she walks in, we have
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: full faces.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: Like a Jean Benet red lipstick.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Like mom, we just, don't be mad.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't understand, we didn't understand that we were
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: wasting this poor girl's time. And that the whole reason
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: she's giving us a free facial is to like make
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: a sale. So that's- Wow.
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: So would I be- So you're saying, it doesn't sound
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: like it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: No, in the end, in the end, no, I don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: think I'd write the check.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: And I think I might hear your speech. I might
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: go to like one event. One brush. But I'm not
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: going to, so what the Mary Kay lady said back
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: when I was 23 is she goes, if you wake
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: up the next morning and you're still thinking about it,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: that's when you know you should do it.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: So I woke up the next morning.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And I was still thinking about it.
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: But I was like- No.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: What the fuck am I thinking? No. I'm just thinking
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: about it because I'm thinking I don't want to do it,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: So my answer is no, I don't think I can.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, good.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I think having like.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: I also think.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know who gets susceptible. I think part of
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: it was that they were a group, these kids and
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: Sarah Lawrence. They were all in it together. He kind
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: of captured them all at the same time.
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: And they're all misfits and they didn't really have friends
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: and they really didn't have friends growing up in high school.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: They were all like... And they kind of found each other.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: And so, but eventually, you know, some of them did
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like wake up and just go after that last lashing
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: or beating or verbal abuse of all night. Then I
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: had to leave. But yeah.
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: That's shocking. I got to watch this now. I would
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: be interested in that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Now I think that I gave you the thing.
• 57:40
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• 57:41
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• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have returning guest,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: everyone's favorite captain, Captain Sandy. Welcome back to Juicy Scoop.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: So I was watching the show last night. So you're
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: below deck bed and you guys have done seven seasons, right?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: You're starting your eighth. But you had to come in
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: because Captain Lee had an issue with his leg. So
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: then you took over this one, which is great. I
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: thought that was obviously a perfect situation. Yeah.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: But were you like home?
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I was home.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And then they were like, hey, so you got a call.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And how did that happen?
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So I had the call. It was February 13th. I
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: had plans with Leah on February 14th.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Who is your partner?
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: You guys are not married.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: No. And she's a singer, right?
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: She's an awesome singer.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But did she do gospel singing first? Yeah.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: So she was like the, I guess they call them worship,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the worship at Saddleback. And then when she started singing.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, in Orange County.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, okay.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: So with Rick Warren. And so when she started seeing me,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: no more welcome on the stage. Welcome to the church,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: but you can't sing anymore.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Oh, really?
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Kind of, especially.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: It's sad.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Love is love. Yeah. And well, especially kind of now
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: I would have been, and being that it, but I guess,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: but I would think, I don't know. I wonder if
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: it would, if it happened today, maybe it would even
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: be different than it was. Just four years ago.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was just three years ago?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Four. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know. I don't know.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: But you know, um, no, because I was watching a
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: video of her singing. And so you guys, um, you
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: guys have a podcast. Yeah.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about that.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I just started it. And, um, a lot of people
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: were asking for it. And also I want to give
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: Leah her, you know, a platform because she lost it
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: because of me. And the reality is that she has
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: a story to tell. She left a man, she stayed
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: in a marriage for money, right? She, that security of money.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: Um, It's kind of great that she just couldn't admit that.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's awesome. Yeah. Women do that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: So many people don't. I'm always like, just say it.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Like I always say, like, listen, there's a lot of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: women that slept with someone gross to get the part. Yeah.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Not everybody.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: She actually was in love with him.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: Not that, but I'm saying.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Like, even to just admit that like, I'm no longer
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: in love, but the idea of, of really living my truth,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: but then I wouldn't even know where to begin to leave.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: You know, that's what I'm talking about more. Like, I'm
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: just saying the honesty of women, like I wish women
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: would be more honest about.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: So she was with this guy at a very.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: Young age, like 24. And then they, she was in
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: love in the beginning. And then that changed. She had
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: to end her career. You know, she was singing. She
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: had her own TV show on TBN and you know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: she had a life and she was.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Offered like the TV Christian network.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: And she was offered, uh, to sing with Celine as
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: in Vegas and to relocate. And he said, no, he
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: wouldn't relocate. And I think that was the moment where
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: she goes Orange County, Colorado. I don't know, but it
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: was like, he wouldn't relocate. So she then adopted a baby. Um,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: And then she became a full-time mom. And now when
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: she met me.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: So she left him after that, then adopted a baby
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: on her own? She tried to divorce him like three times.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: But did they adopt the child together?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, so then she was like, I'll fulfill my, I'm
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: just going to focus on motherhood.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Well, it came to her.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: She never wanted to have a baby. And then they said,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: we found a child for you. She's like, I really
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: wasn't looking, but okay. And then biracial. And so she
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: took her on. It's her love of her life.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: And.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: She's been a great mom. Her daughter's 16 now. But
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: what I love about Leah, and when we met, I'm like,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: you need to leave. Like, not because of me. Because,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: and she said, you said that so selflessly. You have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: to fulfill your heart. And don't stay because it's financially secure.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: And she broke out of that mold, left this massive house,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: and I'll never forget pulling up to this apartment. Like,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: you know, you move in after college.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: And She broke down and I go, it's temporary. She
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: left the big house and rented an apartment, got a job,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: started a business and started working.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: And how long ago was that?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Four years ago. Oh, that's so recent.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Yes. And I'm like, you need a platform. Let's do this.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: You can help so many women who are stuck. She
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: even wrote a song called Stuck. When you're trying to
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: move and your feet won't do what you want them
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: to do. Stuck and just like that. You can't go
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: forward and you can't go back.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: The story of him not letting her sing was Celine, okay?
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: So when I was a little girl, I was in
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the age of five, and I couldn't watch as much
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: TV as I wanted because that's what happens when you
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: have five kids. You're not really, like, watching. And I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: was watching, and I'd watch, like, these made-for-TV movies. And, like,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: I was, like, eight. And there was this one with
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Priscilla Presley. Not Priscilla Presley. Priscilla... Anyway, she was, like,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: on Dallas. I just remember she was this beautiful girl.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: And she was with this rich guy who... And every
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: day she was like in this condo and he'd come
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: to visit her or whatever. And I think she was
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: a mistress, but, and I'm watching this as a little girl.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I think I'd like to be this
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: mistress lady. Like who cares? This is so great. And
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: she comes running into see him one time and she goes,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like earlier, she's like, I have an audition
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: for a cell property. He's like, hope you get it, honey.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: He's all nice and showering with her with gifts. And
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: then she, the next day she comes and she goes,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I got the part, you know, and, And I start
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: filming next week and he goes, next week we're going
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to New York. That's my only time with you. You
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: can't do the soap acting. And I remember seeing as
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: a little girl, like, well, then I don't want to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: be that. Like I would not like, I'm like, how
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: can this asshole not let her be on.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: The soap opera?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Because me, it's someone watching this. I'm like, oh, I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: want to be this LA actress, but how great if
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: you could do it and have this guy, like just
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: let you go shopping and support you. And it's very
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: rare that, That you can have both.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: At eight years old, you had that insight.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I saw it. I can see her in the red
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: bathing suit telling him that she got the part and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: me being like, well, I never want to be beholden
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: to some guy that's going to not let me miss
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: out on like a huge, because even as like an eight-year-old,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I like knew because I grew up here, how hard
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: it is to like book anything. I was like, oh
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: my God.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: And then later in the story, he dies.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: And then she's left with nothing because she was the mistress.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: And so then I was like, oh, that's another thing. Like,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be the mistress, you've got to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: carve out some money for yourself. But it's true. Like,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: that's where she was probably like, my God, I'm with
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: this person that I'm not. I'm thinking what she's thinking. Like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not in it for the love, but at least
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: I get to sing in it.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: And here comes the opportunity of a lifetime.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: And it's like, no. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I want her to have this platform.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Because there are so many women who go, no. They're
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: told no. It's like, but he's not your daddy.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Like, you have a choice.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: And I love that Leah. And then if you miss
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: that opportunity, then, you know, it's like, and you don't
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: get out. But you're going to say you love that Leah.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Like, she broke out. Like, she took the risk. And
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: she had to go to work. And a lot of
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: people don't know what they're going to do. Like, what
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: are you going to do? It's like, well, you start
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: with a job, right?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: And it's very scary when you've had a... you know,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: a marriage of arrangement or privilege or whatever, you know,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: where you're like, you are capable, but it's been so
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: many years since you've done something that you're just like,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I don't, what am I going to do? I don't
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: even know where to begin, you know? And I think that's,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: what's really hard, but.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: And when you start, it gets less scary. So the
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: first week is, Oh, my God. You're almost petrified.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Then the second week, you're scared.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Then the third week, you're getting a little more comfortable.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: But in a month, you're like looking back going, man,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: I should have done this 15 years ago.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's great.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: And that's the cool thing. So that's why we do
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: the podcast.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So we were going to do this whole like getaway.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: And then they asked and they really needed the support
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: because as you know, when you– For the TV show
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: and for the real life, you can't just call captains
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: and go take over the boat. It's insurances that are involved,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: background checks. It's a lot. It's a big deal.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: And then also the TV aspect.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: That's correct. And the show must go on. So Leah
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: looked at me and she's like, do it. And I'm like, okay. And,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: you know, you want to be there for each other.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: My parents died. My mom, I was at a Barcelona
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: boat show and there was a captain that was running
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: a similar boat to me. And I called the insurance company.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: I had to fly home and he got approved to
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: move the boat for me. It's a big deal when
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: someone steps in to take over on that aspect, then
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: the personal aspect. And then you want to be there
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: for someone.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: And have their back because paying it forward because someone
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: did it for me. Right.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was a bittersweet. The cool thing was
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: a boat I never ran before. The biggest boat I
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: ever drove. I was a little intimidated. It was a thousand,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: almost a thousand tons. Like that's a big mama, man.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: That's like big. And then I got to do the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Caribbean again, which was really cool.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: And okay. So I was watching it and, you know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: obviously what makes it so interesting to watch is that,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you know, your approach and everything is so different than
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: the guys, which I've said before in a much more
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: encouraging way, you know, like really encouraging people's not only careers,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: but like their growth. And I mean, that just comes,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: it's just interesting to watch because these were the couple
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: of things I noticed yesterday was when they were coming
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: back from the beach, one of the beach things, you
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: were there to like help with the coolers.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I personally have never seen with the male captains, them
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: doing that.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Well, first and foremost, you're putting people out there to,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: you expect them to do a good job. I have
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: to demonstrate what kind of good job I want them
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: to do. So I'm the model of the good job.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: If I'm not out there to greet them and help
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: them to carry the coolers off, how will they respect
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: me as a person? You know, they have to respect
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: the position, but I need to earn their respect as
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: a person and having their back. I also need to
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: show them this is how we show up for each other.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: And the other part is I can't sit on my
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: butt and see how hard they're working and do nothing.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't live inside me. I grew up in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: a household of workers.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: Like we had 42 dogs. My dad was a hunter.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: We had horses. Like we had to feed the animals
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: every morning. So the work ethic is in me.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I always thought that massage. blowing up the slide,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: I always thought the worst thing was these beach lunches.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: They're hard. They're so hard.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: But then, so we went.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: On a boat. My husband became a captain last year.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: So we have a catamaran and we went on our
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: own catamaran in the BVIs over Christmas. With just my husband, myself,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: and our 20-year-old and 17-year-old son. It wasn't as great
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: as I thought it was going to be.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: Because you didn't have a captain.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: We didn't have a captain.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a chef. You didn't have a chef.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: We didn't, the boys, the boys were only taught by him.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: Like, and so then, you know, and he's like, you know,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: we had never been there before. So we didn't know it.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: It was like, we had only used the boat in
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Newport where we had a very easy docking situation and
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: we would go back and forth because we had a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: similar boat there. So, um, But I will say, once
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you've been on the boat for a while, you do
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: really want to get off. That's right. For even a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: little bit. So I can see why they ask for it.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: But originally, I thought they were all assholes forever asking
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: for a beach thing in the beginning of me watching
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: But now I get it.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: It's cool because you anchor off a coast. You want
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: to see the coast, right?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: So the destination is the vessel. I always say that.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: The destination is the boat.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: However- just because that's the destination doesn't mean you don't
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: want to see other places. So I like it when
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: they want to go ashore. It gives the crew a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: break on the vessel, but when they're doing the beach picnics,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: it's so hard.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Now, granted, we're watching it for the show, but when
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: you've done this for other people, like, okay, like if
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: this was just a fancy trip, people still paid the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: whatever enormous amount of money. Could you ever be.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Like, hey, I know you guys want to go to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: the beach.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: What we're thinking of is, let's do lunch and then
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: we're going to take you to the beach and we're
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: going to have cocktails and we're going to set up
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: some things, but not to the lunch on the beach.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Or would you not do that because they paid so much?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Would you ever suggest that knowing that they most likely
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: would say yes and you guys would save yourselves a
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: lot of extra headache?
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: To be honest, like we do in the world of yachting,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: this happens all the time and it's set up like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: a five-star restaurant. We don't have the luxury of time
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: to do that. So remember, we board the boat. We
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: learn the boat. We take off. We're hoping the stuff's
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: on board. They do their best. It is expected in yachting,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: and it's a regular occurrence. It's like when you go
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: to a beach, a resort, and they build these tents,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: and it's lavish. Same thing on yachting. They're used to
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: doing that.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: But the boats are set up for that. So when
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: we take over a boat, they're not always set up
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: for that. And also these crew are getting to know
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: each other, the personalities. When you're working together for year
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: after year after year.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: It's easier.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: It's more of a flow. When you go back to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: the Caribbean, you'll know where to go, where to anchor.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: It'll get easier. I always suggest, always hire someone in
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: the beginning to show you and then take it on
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: your own.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. That's what we should do.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone said it was the funnest trip that they've
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: ever gone on, but nobody went with just their own family.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: And there were some Captain Lee moments with my husband.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: We're like, God damn it, you idiot!
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: There was a little of that.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, so in the last couple episodes, we have... Let
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: me get to Rachel, who is... I have always been like, wow,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: she seems like the greatest chef.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: And this.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: she was like running late or there was going too slow.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: And now they asked for an eight course meal. They,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: they asked for an eight course meal.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I don't, I think they wanted a tasting menu. Rachel
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: is an excellent chef.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Yes. Right.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: So she, she's so good. Her food is excellent. And
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: her challenges her.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: So then at the end of it, the guy is like, Hey,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you some things that like we
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: didn't love. You guys were short, uh, A person, because
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: this pretty blonde girl, Camille, she had to go. Too
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: bad for her. She's very pretty. She liked to drink
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: on the job and stuff.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: She cracked me up, though. I'm watching that show. I'm
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: laughing so hard. I mean, as a captain, it's, listen,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: you got to get it together. But as a viewer,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: I was, she's great entertainment.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And then, like, oh, then she'd been dating a guy
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: for two weeks, so he was crying about it.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: And then she was, like, being real, well.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I guess you guys don't, don't appreciate it.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay. So she goes and, um, and then
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: we have our first male stew on the show, Frazier.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: And I think that's a fun dynamic to have a male, uh,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: what do you call it? Chief stew and a female chef,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: because it seems like the majority of the seasons we've
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: seen that dynamic between the male chef and, you know, the,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: the head stew.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Being a girl. Yeah.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: That's really insightful. I don't think anyone's ever picked up
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: on that.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Oh. That's really cool.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Actually, I haven't even picked up on that. Until now,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: that's really cool. I never thought of it like that
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: because you usually have the chef yelling at the chief stew,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: which is a woman, and now it's the opposite. And
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: they really respect each other and get along better than
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of the other ones, you know?
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: And then this girl, Alyssa... Now, Alyssa had a breakdown
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: where she just cried and she's like, I'm done. Now,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: have you found, this is another generation you're dealing with.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: This is Generation Z. Do you feel like there's a
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: little bit like, I need a mental health day and
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: things like that more often than like 12 years ago
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: where people, you know?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. It's so interesting. And you know what
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I find fascinating? How the corporate world adjusts to the
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: mentality of the people and how they're raised, right?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: In order to get product or, you know, sell your product,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: you have to adjust your strategy to work with their
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: mental state. Isn't that crazy how many dollars are spent
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: on that? It drives me mad. I mean, I'm thinking
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: just put your big girl pants on.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Nice and tight. You know, pick yourself up and brush
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: yourself off and go out there. Because not everybody's going
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: to coddle you. Not everybody's going to go, oh my God,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: they hurt your feelings. It became about feelings. And I've
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: had to learn to check by my tongue and not
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: say what I'm thinking, but to say what I need
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: to say in order to get productivity out of people.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: And it's... it's a learning curve.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: And, and when these people, when the guy left with
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: the pregnant wife and he was like, yeah, we had
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: a great time, but like there was this and that,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple of things that weren't done, but
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: here's like your big, you know, and you guys, that
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: was a good tip. But like, do you ever feel
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: when you do get something like that? Like this isn't
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: going to be that great.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know why a gratuity is gratuity. It's based
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: on your performance.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: So basically I think in our world of yachting, crew
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: have an expectation, which they should not have.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: You know how many private boats out there do not
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: tip their crew? You know how many times they give
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: them to their friends? They don't get tipped. They get paid.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: The tip is a gratuity. It's not expected.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: What do you mean? You mean they lend their boat out.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: To their friends?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they say, here, take my boat, take my crew.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: And then those people don't tip. The owner's paying us. Oh,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but then those.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: People don't tip.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: No, they don't tip.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, I have a good question for you. Okay.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I've been secreting, manifesting, going on a mega yacht situation.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: And I have met someone. I mean, I'm with my husband,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: but I mean, we met like another couple that are nice.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Good clarification.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: And they kind of like threw it out there. And
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I said it to my husband. I'm like,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: do you think maybe we could do this? And they
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: are like, we'll be on the boat outside of this
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: place for like a like a month and a half,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: you know, come, you could come and stay with us,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: you know? So my question is what's the class, like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: what's the classy protocol?
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: Cause my first thought is, I think we should go.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: I think we should like definitely get a hotel part
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: of the time, either a little before go spend like
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: three nights with them and then come back and be
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: on our hotel. Just so a, we have that balance. Also,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: we're not complete freeloaders. And so it's, So let's say
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: that's the scenario. So we're on their mega yacht for
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: three days, hanging out, whatever, jumping off the thing, doing whatever. Now,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: as like the non-primary just guest of someone, what is
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: the protocol of treating the staff and not so you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: get invited back? Okay.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: So first and foremost, you've been invited.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Most charters are paid by one person and they invite people.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: You're not expected to pay the crew. You're not expected
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: to tip the crew.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: That's on the primary. Always on the primary. When you're invited,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: they really mean that. So I agree with you. I'd
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: have a hotel just in case because sometimes personalities don't mix.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: You need a break. I think it's a great, I
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: would say, yeah, we're here these days. What days work
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: for you?
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: That we come on board.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I would do. And, you know, they're they
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: invited you. So they meant it.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: How much alcohol was involved is my first question. Friends
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: of mine go, hey, I'm going to do this, this.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: And the next day they're like, no, I'm not doing that.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Like I just said, like I just wrote and I go,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: we're seriously thinking about me. looking to go at April,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: you know? And like, so I'm, you know, after it
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: was thrown out there, I'm giving several outs, you know,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: before we get to like really looking at flights. But
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, when will I have this opportunity?
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: And I just want to, after my BVI experience. I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: would like to just.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Yes. And you will have a great experience. And people
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: just don't offer that up. They mean it, you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: especially at that level. They're not, you know, they could
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: have anyone on board.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: It's nice.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: You had that offer. I would take them up on it,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: but I like your strategy. I think it's great.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: And just ask them what days work for them.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Like, I always remember my dad had a saying, like,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: if he'd be talking about like some couple or something,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: he'd be like, Well, I wouldn't want to be on
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: a houseboat with them for a week. So I always
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: think of that about being on a boat with someone
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: and also like guests are like fish. They smell after
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: three days. So I always feel like three nights is
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: a good measure, you know, where people don't feel totally
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: put out, you know.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Because I have another story for you where someone was
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: invited on a boat and they all stayed. They all
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: left together. There was a primary. Their friends left, so
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: I know both sets of people.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: They left, but the friends that were invited went back
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: to the boat and stayed on the boat. For how long?
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: And he didn't know it.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: For how long?
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: For like a week. With the staff catering to them?
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: And they didn't know it. And that is not cool.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: That's what Anna Delvey did in the Netflix special. You
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: know who Anna Delvey is? She's the criminal with the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: accent that, like, I.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: Wonder where they got that idea.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe they got that idea from watching that.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe because, I mean, I think, I don't know how
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: much of the thing was true because it was like
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: a scripted story about it, but that was part of
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: it that she met this young, this lady and then
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: like came back on. And then the woman is like.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Get off my, like called and was like, what the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: hell are you doing? Get off the boat. Like, she's like, Oh,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: it's just sitting here out in the ocean. Why can't
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: we have some fun?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Like, what's your problem?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, yeah.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: They were friends though. It's like, they were like long-term friends.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: So they, so the primaries didn't care.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Or do you think they did? Oh, they did.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they didn't ask, but they took advantage. Because,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: you know, when you've been offered and offered and offered,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, it becomes their home.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Right. You know?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: So a lot of crew do that on a boat.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: It's where they, it becomes their boat. And I'm like, no,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: this isn't your boat.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Right. You know? Yeah. So. And, yeah, like there was a,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know what season it was, but there was
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: one where, you know, the crew had become a couple.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: They were romantic to the people. Yeah. And it was
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: a night that they didn't have any people there, you know.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: And the couple did go in the main cabin and, like,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: slept together. I mean, currently they're going to clean the sheets.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: I guess that's okay. No, no, no.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: It's not okay.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: Okay. No, no.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: I have to tell you this story. One time I
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: worked for a founder of a bank. We had just
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: finished a charter show. My crew worked their butts off.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: And the chef goes, hey, can I get a massage
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: on board? And I'm, yeah, sure.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: Sure.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: There was a broker that came on the boat and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: they were showing it for sale. He opens the cabin
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: and my chef's getting a massage.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Guess what?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: He emails the owner. The owner writes me the email,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: forwards it to me, call me to discuss. I was like,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: oh my God, I called him up and he was like,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: never let that happen again. Never. And I go, I apologize.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of it. I did approve the massage
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: on board. I figured it would be in the main salon.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And he goes, I figured you didn't know about it, Sandy.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: Never let it happen again.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Clunk.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: And I was like, okay. You know, because it's not allowed.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: It's their space.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: It's like walking into someone's, you know, suite.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: Have you ever, TV or not, kicked off, been like,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: you just cannot be here anymore with the guests or
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: didn't but really, really wanted to and why?
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: One time I was in the The crew. No, I
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: was in the med running a boat and the client
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: was really obnoxious sexually to my crew. And I called
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: his broker actually two times. And I say, get your
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: client under control. Keep his hands off my crew or
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: I'm kicking his broker.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: So meaning he he wanted to have this vacation. So
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: he went through a broker who then like books that
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: like a hotel. OK, so they're the filter for us. Right.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: So we don't we still want to show them a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: good time. But the broker needs to reprimand them, not us.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, got it.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: Because then he's going to be pissed off at us.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: And then we're going to ruin their vacation. So there's
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: always that smoke and mirrors.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: She did, and he only left us 750 euros. It
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: was a terrible tip.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: And the crew worked so hard. Another guy, a Russian client,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: didn't really speak English, but you could hear him sue.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: So he was yelling at Porta Cervo people because we
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: weren't getting docked fast enough. So I called his broker
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: and said, your broker is going to get us, I mean,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: your client's going to get us blacklisted from PortaTurbo. He's yelling,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: I'm going to sue you in his broken English.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: But they can understand that. And she called him and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: she turned it around.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: But two times, I never kicked anyone off. That's the
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: last thing you want to do. You want to find
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: a way to end your charter on a good note.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Every one of those charters. I had another charter. It
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: was a million euro charter. Her guests were awful to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: the crew. So I went to her and I said, listen,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: this is a lawyer. She actually wanted to get into yachting.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Like they're not stupid people. They're educated.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. Was this on the show? No.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, continue.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: And they're here to please you. And when you're there
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: constantly getting beat down, their smiles are going to be
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: harder to put on. Their spirits are crushed. You want them,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you know, a little graciousness would work. So it turned
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: around like that. You know, then they were like– because
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: the crew were actually calling them Mama Bear, Baby Bear,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: and Papa Bear. And I'm like, they can hear you.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Stop with the Mama Bear, Papa Bear. And so at
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: the end– The crew was saying about them?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. That's funny. Yeah.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Because it was like– And when they walked off, they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: gave us 100,000 euros and they said, baby bears apologizes.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Like they heard the crew.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: And since that moment, I said, never again. Are you
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: allowed to talk about the guests? Do it in the
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: crew mess.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: About, you know, because we all love to see when
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: the crew get horny with each other. And I am
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: like sometimes just like very shocked, you know, and they
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: do this on a lot of shows, whether it's Summer
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: House or whatever, where it's like. You're like seeing them
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: like bone.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: I know. I'm just like, don't let your kids watch
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: the show. I'm like eight years old.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I'm like, cover their eyes.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can see why people want to do
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: it because the job itself is great. But now you're
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: on TV. And not only are you on TV, but
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: you're working really hard on the real show. But then
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: like you're revealing like.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 7: I was just watching the Pamela Anderson doc, you know,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: and how devastated she was when the video got stolen and,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 7: you know, about she and Tommy and their intimate moments.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 7: And I'm like, God, cut to 20 years later, and
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: these kids are doing it for a reality show, basically.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Like, it is, to me, kind of shocking. Yeah.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: They forget. They forget the fourth wall. They forget that
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: camera's on. They're drinking. They are not thinking. Like, that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: reasoning's out the window. They wake up the next day
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: and go, oh.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: When you guys go, and I know it's part of
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: the show, too.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Like, you guys did so great. You're going to get
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: to go out and have this fun day. And, I mean,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: isn't it hard, though? Like, sometimes I'm like, God, the
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: next charter's only 30 hours away. Can they really party together?
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: Be hungover and, like, whip it together in such a
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: short time. Because I just don't think anything sounds worse
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: than being really hungover on a boat.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: They do.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: They do what? Whip it together or want to kill themselves?
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: No, they whip it together. Because that's, they're young.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I guess you're right, yeah. They do.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: Like, it's so interesting how they do it. But we
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: drink Baraka a lot of it.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: What's Baraka?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: It's like your version of Emergency.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: And we live on Red Bull.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they live on Red Bull. And, of course, you've
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: been sober really a long, like the majority of your
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: life now, right? How long has it been? 33 years.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: And have there ever been a time in those 33
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: years that you've been tempted and triggered?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Tempted, no. But wishing I could just, you know, drink
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: and forget.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Because sometimes you just want to relax. And my concern
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: is if I do, because I can. I might just
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: take that boat and drive it wherever I want it.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is there ever been a situation where you would
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: have made a different decision had the cameras not been there?
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, so I am a captain. I think like a captain.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: I have been doing this for a long time. What
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I do do is slow down and pause because we
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: are making a TV show.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: I am....
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: I make a decision, I execute. The difference here is
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: I make a decision, I discuss with production, and then
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: we figure out the avenue of how to get replacements, right?
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: So it isn't like you can just, like even in
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: real yachting, we do background checks. Like you have to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: go through this whole thing to get people on board.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: When it's a decision that affects my license, I call
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: my maritime attorney. They say fire them, I fire them.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: When I'm in those moments where, because I'm filming a show, right?
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: I want it to be successful. And should I fire?
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Is there any way I can get around this? And
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: if my maritime attorney says no, you need to fire them.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: I do that. Right.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: And I follow their suggestions, which they charge me.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: And so did that happen in the show with Hannah?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's been a couple times where I've called my
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: maritime attorney and said, I don't know what to do here. Yeah,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: that's great that you have that. Yeah, because I worked hard.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: I have a federal license.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the United States, I'm a federal person that has
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: a federal license that could go to prison. Right. You know, like,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: you don't break the law for anybody. And if, you know,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: there's a boat called Monkey Business when President Bush was president.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Oh, Monkey Business, that was the famous, who was the... Yeah,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: who was the girl that was sitting on the politician's
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: lap on monkey business? Yes. And then his whole career
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: went down the tubes. Right.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Who was that guy?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Because they seized his boat. But who was that politician?
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Gary Hart, Donna Rice?
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Donna Rice and Gary Hart. Gary Hart was a politician who, like,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: was set to probably win the presidency. And then he
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: was on monkey business with someone other than his wife,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: which was Donna Rice.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, so continue.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: So there was pot found on the boat, and they
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: seized the boat. Oh, okay. I'm sure maybe. I don't know, like,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: the backstory of all of that.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: So you hear these examples all the time. And in
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: my industry, they do random drug testing. Do you know
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: when you go into a different country, they don't always
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: like you there, right? So you're obviously doing business with them,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: but you're flying different flags. You have to fit into
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: their country. Is it their job to make you feel comfortable?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Right. Well, thanks so much.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: This has been really fun.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: And how many more episodes do you have left of this?
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Do you know? Yeah, until like March.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, so we have a lot left.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, we have a lot left. And then, of course,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: your other season then comes after that. And, yeah, I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: hope one day maybe I will be on one.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: Of your boats.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, that would be awesome. Yeah. Well, go on the
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: other one you were invited.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to work that out. Yeah.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: Great.
• 1:31:21
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• 1:31:23
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