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Ole Borud: Extol | Furnace Fest 2023 Series · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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Shors today we have only borrowed from Extel. We are so excited. Only
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we chatted like what a year and a half ago now about your work in
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Extol and all the other great music that you do in the world. But
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there's been some exciting news and we'll get to that in just a second.
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But you're just coming all the way from Norway, yeah, doing doing your
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Norway thing. Does Norway do the whole fika break thing to not? Really?
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That's a sweetish thing, that's just though. I mean fika basically means
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that you have like a um, you know, sugar filled snack along with
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your coffee, like a doughnut or something like that. But it's like a
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thing in Sweden. Yeah, I mean obviously we we eat the same crap
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here as well, you know, but but they call it fika. It's
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a thing, you know, it's a real thing. Do you have like
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your nor Like there's no Norway version of like a little coffee break eating a
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there's you don't have like a Norwegian version of that. Maybe we would probably
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just call it coffee, you know, just a little coffee. Yeah,
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yeah, and then you obviously have something with you know, something alongside of
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it that seems healthy. Yeah, but it's not. It's not healthier,
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is the same thing. It's a good way to live though. It's a
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good way to live. Yeah. Are you a big coffee drinker as well?
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Yeah? Yeah, black coffee or oh yeah, do you I don't
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put anything in my coffee. That's you know, that's the man like,
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that's not happening for me. Have you ever had an Americano? Yeah?
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Yeah? Do you like America? That's my that's my go too, because
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I think it's it's like it's like really coffee. It's a up you know.
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Yeah, I don't know, it's it's not my thing. It's like,
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if I can't get like a real coffee, I'll go for the Americano
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because it's like, you know, sort of close. Yeah, but I
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prefer like a really you know, like a real I don't know, it's
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it's what it's called in English. But you know you have this uh water
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comes down and you put like you know, freshly called coffee beans. Yeah,
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yep, coffee. Yeah. So that's that's my thing. That's what
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I call the time here. I dig it sweet? Is it is?
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It? Is? It? Especially chili there right now? It has been
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um these days. Is it's it's getting like a little bit um warmer,
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but I mean it's still winter time, so right, you know, it's
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it's kind of cold. But like at the very beginning of this year,
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we had like tons of snow coming and then it just melted, like we
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had like so much snow. But then just like one or two days after
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that, everything started melting and it was like, okay, that's cool.
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You know, got to go skiing, like for five minutes there we go.
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Yeah, but then again, you know, I live close by the
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sea, and a lot of people live elsewhere in Norway obviously, and of
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course I could. I could go like for a couple hours drive up in
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the mountains and I'd had snow. Yeah. See where I'm from, So
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I live in South Dakota, which is kind of like central north north central
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America. And you know, most Americas they think of Norway is like the
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chilliest place, right, like super cold, but like where I'm from,
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like, I mean, it's pretty consistently negative ten degree starrenheit, which I
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don't know what that is and celsius um but me neither. It's it's very
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cold. Yeah, I don't understand why you guys don't use the metric system,
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but I don't either. I don't either. Yeah, but let's not
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go there. Yeah, that's that's that's a hell I'm willing to die on.
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I love the Imperial System. Okay, I don't recommend it all that
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you don't go Well, sweet, let's talk. Uh. First of all,
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I want to ask you how how your solo project has been. Doing
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that solo project. It's basically just like your like Maine. That that's what
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I um, you know, that's my work and my profession. That's what
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I do for a living. Let's talk about soul letters man. Yeah,
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things are going fine. Released that album and well, actually, uh it
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kind of suffered from the pandemic in a way because I was hoping to get
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more out of it at that point, and uh so that was a bit
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of a struggle. But actually I'm still kind of you know, playing shows
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off of that album. So things are still happening this year and we're actually
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I'm saying we're it's me and my band, but we're going back to Japan
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for the fifth time or something like that, fifth sixth time. Yeah,
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so in June and then um actually expanding just a little bit with visiting Poll
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and some other plays this as well, which is kind of cool. And
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then some some gigs in our way as well. So things are happening.
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It's good. Yeah. Do you do you find yourself with your solo band?
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Um, do you find that to be something that is like worldwide?
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Because to me, like just you know, from the outside looking in,
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it seems like it seems like your popularity is it's just kind of all over
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the world, like it's not like a strong concentration of it this early.
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Well, um, I think my music is kind of um, it's not
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like super mainstream, even though it's I mean, I would actually label it
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as if I was to go like the easier route, I would just say,
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okay, some sort of pop music. But I mean it's obviously there's
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soul in it. There's obviously some funk elements always been there West Coast,
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which is kind of like that sophisticated thing from the early eighties with all of
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those session players in LA and whatnot and and you know, stuff matched together
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and always been a fan of Steely Dan, you guys know that. And
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so I mean it's it's probably not like super mainstream, but the fans are
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really like they're stayers, all of them. And yeah, and apparently they
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are in North and South America and in Asia, and so I get like,
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you know, comments from everywhere. I guess which it's cool. Yeah,
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I love it. I love it. I am such a big fan
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of of your work with your band. It's a I'm I've always had like
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a real deep affection for um that style of music, just very like feel
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good pop. I would say, even though there's a lot of you know,
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it's some like you know, there's some dark themes in some of those
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songs for sure, right, I mean, you have some some melancholic kind
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of UMU attitudes every once in a while. But to me, it's something
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I want to put on when I'm when I'm driving to work or something like
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that. When I'm coming home from work, I'll listen to X Toll because
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you know, I've got to get some of that rage out right. But
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going to work, I want to feel good. I want to feel I
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want to feel in a groove a little bit, you know, And I
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feel like that's what it does for me. What you're saying is that all
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you listen to is my soul stuff and x doll pretty much. Yeah,
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everyone's almost like flesh Killer in there and stuff. But oh okay, okay,
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yeah, of course that's that's great. And then Shalia of course yeah
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sorry um jokes aside. Um, well, you know, most of the
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stuff that I've been doing up through the years with my solo stuff is it's
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kind of up on the on the up tempo side of town. However,
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on the last album, I actually decided to I all of a sudden realized
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that, you know what, it's it's cool to have dynamics and to you
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know, uh dip my toes in and a bit more of a you know,
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ballad sort of thing. You know. So a couple of tunes there
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are way way more like calmer, I would say, and even like as
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you said, some of the themes are more how shall I put it,
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it's I mean, I, for instance, have a song about, um,
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the fact that you lose people, you know, um, people go
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out of this timeline and you're left hurt, you know, and it's it's
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pretty hard to deal with. And so but these are all parts of life.
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So it's it's pretty important to be able to say something about it.
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And uh, you know that sort of honesty. Is it's really important as
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well? You know. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a very honest
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art form that you have going on there, and I hope that it continues
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forever. That being said, well, I would love to talk about X
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Toll at at furnace Fest this year. So well, let's start off with
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last year at first, Okay, because X Toll was on my list last
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year and I and I told I had told Chad last year like, hey,
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X Tool would be a great option. I think that, you know,
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especially now that the pandemic is you know, starting to wind down,
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I think that they would be great, you know, to come to furnace
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Fest. It's it's it's a festival that it's like perfect for them. Everyone
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wants to see them. And he's like, yeah, yeah, that's a
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really good idea. And when then I had messaged you then the next year
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and you had said that yeah, they had already asked you last year too.
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But last year I also said Blindside would be the one part, the
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one band that would get me to buy a ticket immediately. You know,
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your Scandinavian brethren will say and lo and behold, Blindside is at furnace Fest
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now, this this year. I had said when we talked to Chad and
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Johnny this year, I had said, x TOL, you got to make
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it happen now, right, And so right after that, right after that
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interview with them, I message you and I said, hey, just so
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you know, we would love it if you guys can make it to to
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furnace Fest this year, if you guys get invited, and wouldn't you know
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but ex Tol is invited then later and you guys get to get to be
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on the bill and everything like that, and everyone in the furnace Fest community
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is like losing their minds right now. They just they cannot believe it there
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there. I know, I know friends of mine that are traveling thousands of
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miles to come see Extol. Wow, So they don't care about any other
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bands, They're just there for Extol. Yeah. Yeah, we all are
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traveling quite far to experience this. Yeah. Well what can I say?
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Um? We I guess we just finally um realized that it was It actually
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was was an option because you know, previously we didn't even consider it as
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you know, as an option because of you know, stuff going on and
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people having other priorit priorities and stuff like that, and you guys know that
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Peter's not coming right, and uh so that's been a huge part of us
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not really doing anything. But he was like, you guys, if you
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want to do it, come on, man, do it, you know,
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And that's pretty much what like kind of propelled this thing happening because we
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well we just basically decided that Okay, this could be fun. Let's see
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if we can make it work. And yeah, what was it? Was?
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It was it that alone that was like, oh, this is fun
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to get back together because it's been some time since Extel has has been together.
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Yeah, like what kind of were the reasons beside maybe maybe is just
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having fun? But were there other reasons beyond that that made you guys like,
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yeah, this seems like the right time to bring back the band together
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and play at least one show. Um, well, we we've been in
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in touch, um actually all the way, you know, through all of
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these years, more or less, but like lately we've had even more contact
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and uh so it kind of just felt natural to pursue this thing and see
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if it was possible to you know, well, um, yeah, to
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to make it. And I was the one obviously to vouch for Elisha being
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the step in and uh and so the other guys were like, you know,
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obviously needed some time to you know, process that and think about it,
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and um, and then they said yes, and we you know,
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it didn't take that long because I you know, basically just sent him a
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message asking, Hey, are you busy so and so date and he was
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like, no, so, and would you care to do some vocals with
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xtall? It was like, yeah, sure, absolutely, and so I
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didn't didn't really take that long for the lineup too to come together actually,
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so yeah, I mean yeah, it was the right time apparently. And
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and also I think really important for all of us was the fact that Peter
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kind of gave his quote unquote blessing for us to do this, because really,
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I mean, we've been reluctant to to like pursue this basically because it
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I mean, after all, it feels natural to have like the you know,
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the main original parts of a lineup. And I mean, let's face
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it, I mean, Peter's is such a integral part of the sound of
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old Extel and uh. So I mean obviously we we would have wanted him
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to come along, but um, that's just not going to happen because he's
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elsewhere, um, you know, in priorities and in life in general.
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So and uh yeah, and that's as far as he wants that too,
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go as far as people knowing a lot of stuff about it, He's like,
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no drama, it's just not going to happen. Yeah, totally understandable,
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understandable. I think I think it's a bummer for a lot of people.
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But I also think that people will understand absolutely. I can understand that
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because if you have like a relationship with a band and a certain lineup,
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and you know, there are so many emotions and feelings involved in that,
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and people are invested in all that stuff, and that's great. We really
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appreciate that and are thankful for it. But at the same time, I
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was really happy to see people giving Elijah so much love. Yeah, I
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was really happy about that, you know. And uh, I mean I
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love his vocals, So I mean, I know it's gonna be awesome.
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Yeah. I think I think. I think he's going to do an awesome
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job. And I think I don't think anyone's going to be upset by it
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by any means. They might they might be like, oh I wish that
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it was it was Peter or something like that. But once Elijah things looking
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back, Oh, this is this is fine, this this will work just
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fine. I'm quite confident it's gonna work fine. Yeah, which kind of
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kind of makes me wonder, like, you know, you're you would be
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kind of one of these guitarists in general that are you know, no one
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for your your your chops, right, I mean, you're very very good.
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Uh is this something that you have to like practice a ton for?
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Um, I always find it weird to be labeled as a chop kind of
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guy. I mean, I obviously play guitar, and I I and I
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still you know, I still practice, you know, practice different stuff obviously,
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but um, well, of course we need to practice the stuff.
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We haven't done it for ages together, so I mean we just we need
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to get down to the you know, nitty gritty stuff and just practice and
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get the stuff together. But at the same time, I have a hunch
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that it's going to be a you know, a little bit like riding a
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bike, you know, because I mean there's something about what we've done and
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it's like in our DNA somehow, like in the band DNA sort of well,
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you know, I feel confident it's gonna work out fine, but of
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course we need to practice. And I always, you know, more and
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more in life, I have this idea that it just should be as good
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as possible, you know, at that point in life that you know,
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if if we're able to do our best show, now, let's just make
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that happen and practice. Do you think that some of your your work with
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your band has maybe influenced that a little bit? I mean you guys,
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I mean as X Tool, you guys are always pretty tight, but like
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with your band now, I mean you are as tight as tight can get.
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I mean, you guys are dead on everything. It has probably up
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my both skills and all so the way I think about musicality and what to
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expect for myself and maybe not what to expect from other people. But you
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know, if you're in that pool of that sort of musicality and skills and
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talents, you tend to get used to people being super tight. So I
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mean, and then these these days, I mean new bands, everything is
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like so well produced, so um to me, it feels a little bit
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like everything has just moved on and people have like a new set of expectations
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from new bands coming. I mean you can, you can. You can
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go back and listen to Sepultura. Need to remain and just have it be
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what it is for for what it is, and it's kind of like a
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raw and it's not like super super tight like every band is nowadays, but
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you're going to take it for what it is and was at that point.
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But I don't think that that's sort of an album would have been made it
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even that, you know, yeah, right now because everything has been upped
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and everything, all of the expectations has been erased. Just um as time
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goes by, I guess so, um yeah maybe so, I mean yeah,
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I mean I I I'm sure we're going to be able to pull it
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nicely off. Absolutely, I've no doubt about that. Have you toured much
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with Flash Pillar? Is that like a band that is not really anything?
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We did like a little bit right after the album. And the sad thing
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about um, starting a new metal band when you're as old as I am
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and was it that point is like it's not going to give you any income,
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So it's like it's just you know that meet because it's I don't have
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the time to just invest in going on tour like two hundred days a year
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because I have a family and I have a career, a profession, and
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so that's what's going to happen. And obviously it would have been great fun
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doing more Flesh Killer, but it was just not you know, it wasn't
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possible because the gigs we got wast like, you know, one hundred bucks
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or whatever, liking nothing just uh yeah, perhaps a little bit more,
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but anyways, I mean, yeah, yeah, the only reason why I
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ask is just because you know, I'm curious, like, you know,
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how much live metal music have you been able to play over the last few
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years, And it sounds like you've played at least a couple of shows.
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But um, you know, I'm sure going from like the music with your
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your other projects that are not metal, you know, and playing those live,
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it's going to be a lot different than when you start getting all these
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like thirty forty year old dudes wanting a mash to your music. It's gonna
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be a little bit of a different like live performance, and it's just gonna
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feel a little different when you play with Extra again in a few short months.
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Yeah, what is it like? What kind of expectations that are what's
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how is it going to be different then for you coming from you know,
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you used to play a lot of metal music live to now you haven't been
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doing much lately over the last several years too. Now you're gonna be playing
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probably one of the biggest shows that you've played in either quite some time or
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potentially ever. I mean, I have no idea how many people are actually
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going to show up, but it's gonna be way different than what the kind
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of music you've been playing live over the last number of years. Yeah,
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you're probably a right about that, because I mean, this is, after
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all, big festival and there are huge expectations and and as you said,
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like people are coming from far away and all that stuff, which is really
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cool and and also a little bit like, um, we are fully aware
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that we need to, you know, get our shit together. So I
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mean, but as I said, we're going to practice. I mean,
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that's that's the answer, because these I mean, the playing metal requires something
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different from what I do and muscles and whatever, and how I approached the
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guitar as opposed to what I do with my solo stuff, which is way
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different. I mean, musicality is kind of like you know, it is
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what it is. But this is basically basically just getting those sort of chops
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back, you know, and and yeah, yeah, like the motoring of
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of of wrists and fingers and the way you play metal is a it's just
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different, and I guess we all just need to get back into that sort
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of shape. But of course it's going to happen because I'm very I'm very
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like the first thing I said, like when we decided upon saying yes to
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this, it was like, okay, let's just start practicing right away,
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because let's do it. I mean, let's just get into it. So
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um, yeah, it's gonna happen soon. Yeah. I've started just just
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a little bit on my own, and uh yeah, we'll soon get together.
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I think the biggest thing you guys are going to have to practice is
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growing your hair out again. Yeah, I mean, so there you have
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like the bleeding obvious difference from from way back in time, you know,
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because everybody had like long hair and we were like just getting into it and
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you know, doing the circle thing headbanging and whatnot, and obviously that's not
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gonna happen, not at least in that way. So good wear a wig
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you could do that. Yeah, oh man, that would be so ridiculous.
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What if you guys came out at least what if you came out on
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stage with a wig and then you maybe eventually you take it off, but
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at least, like come out on stage with the wig, you know,
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do the hair hair circle thing and then uh, and then you know,
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if they get annoying, you can take them off through them in the crowd.
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And who cares? That would be fun? One didn't I think that'd
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be great? And you heard it here? Yeah, um, well,
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well we'll see about that. Well, but all I know is that we
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we are who we are right now, and there really isn't anything we can
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do about that. So we can't, you know, rewind and get back
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to the time where we all had like long hair and we were twenty something
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or whatever, like, I mean, those days are gone. So we're
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going to try and be the best extol we can be right now and with
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and uh, I mean I guess that all of us are still fans of
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as much as possible being able to be present on stage. So I mean,
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stage presence is obviously a big thing for all of us, and also
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combined with that, obviously obviously for all of us is being able to actually
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pull the music off pretty well. So I mean, all of these things
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matter to us. Well, you know, my hope is just basically that
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we can serve the audience with a good show. You know, I have
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no doubts it's going to be everything that everyone has hoped for. So well,
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yeah, let's hope that. I mean all of these things and even
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yeah, and also I mean it's really important to be in the moment and
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have fun. So I mean, well, I mean, if you're lucky,
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you're able to pull all of them off together. So that's I mean,
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that would be the best thing, in my opinion, just being prepared
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as much as possible as far as skills and presence and everything, and then
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just you know, getting into the moment and yeah, having a blast.
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You know. Is that is that you saying that you might stage dive?
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Nope? Oh absolutely not, absolutely not. That's um, this is when
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I this is when I quote a lethal weapon. I'm too old for that
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shit. Yeah. UM, something I'm very curious about. And I hope
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that maybe this is if it hasn't been thought of yet, maybe you can
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think about think think about maybe doing this, Um any chance that you know
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your band is going to be playing before or after the festival at all,
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or is there maybe like like a like a little mini tour you could do
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with your with your band. Oh you mean my music and my guys?
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Yeah, Oli ball rude. Yeah, Oh yeah no, because I mean
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that would require even more you know, finances and whatnot, because that's a
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totally different band. So yeah, it's that's not gonna happen. Are most
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of your musicians are they? Are they from the US? Are they from
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all over? Or? Oh my band all Norwegian people? All Norwegian?
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Okay, okay, yeah, yeah ja Yeah, So you can't just like
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find a bunch of hired guns and say, hey, we're gonna do a
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lot. All of the guys in my band are hired guns as you know,
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as m as far as being musicians, h living you know, as
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musicians in in Oslo and in that area. And uh, but they've always
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been the band that I've been using. And then obviously every now and then
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I'll I'm in need of a step in, because not it's not always possible
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for absolutely everyone to be part of absolutely everything. So but then I've I've
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been lucky to have a really good set of step ins as well. So
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yeah, all of them are just you know pros. Yeah, when's the
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last time you've been to the States even maybe not even just like playing music,
27:56
but just like you go into the States, maybe Forgitian or something.
28:00
M hm um man um, when was it? I think I went over
28:11
with um Uban, my drummer, because I the one thing that comes to
28:17
mind is in two thousand and eleven, I went with my wife on like
28:22
just a vacation trip, but I actually ended up playing with some guys in
28:25
Las Vegas. Um. Yeah, but we act, I mean we we
28:30
did schedule this ahead of of our trip, so it wasn't just like all
28:34
of a sudden things I was going. Yeah, yeah, no, so
28:41
it was scheduled ahead of the trip. But um, let's see. I
28:45
think I went on like this New York trip with the Reuben a couple of
28:49
years back. But it's it's starting to be a little while since last time
28:56
for me, so yeah, need to get back. Yeah. Well,
29:00
just selfishly, I'm curious if if there's any chance that we could see your
29:04
band playing in the States at any time, Well, that great. I
29:10
would love to do that. I mean, I guess that is just a
29:15
matter of someone wanting to, you know, have us come over, you
29:22
know. I mean it does require paying for both. I mean, these
29:29
guys need their fee because they're professionals, so they can't just do it for
29:33
fun. And then it actually costs what it costs to get over there.
29:37
So I mean, but as far as if that's if that's covered, I
29:44
mean, yeah, sure, I'd love to do absolutely. I desperately want
29:48
to see you guys live. I think it would be, yeah, an
29:51
experience to remember for sure. So yeah, that'd be great fun. Yeah,
29:55
I'm gonna put that out into the ether. I'm gonna start talking to
29:57
all the people that I know with and you're just saying, hey, you
30:00
gotta get this guy over. But I don't know, we'll try to make
30:04
it happen. Only so you're gonna be going to Birmingham. We're gonna be
30:08
in Birmingham again. It's been a while. It's good them Ingham. Um,
30:15
what was it gonna say? Oh, you know, the American South
30:19
is its own it's its own thing basically, it's like its own country.
30:23
Uh. And it's been a while since you've been to America and certainly probably
30:26
even maybe longer since you've been to the American South. What's like the first
30:30
thing either maybe in food or I don't know, Like, but what's like
30:34
the first thing that you want to experience again, maybe since the last time
30:38
you've been to the South? Oh in America? Yeah, Like maybe it's
30:42
barbecue. I mean a lot of people who aren't from that part of the
30:45
country, they love the barbecue, and so they that's the first thing they
30:48
got to do. But I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a BUCkies as
30:52
a gas station. I don't know, Like, what's what's the thing you
30:53
gotta do when you go to America again, or specifically American South. I'm
30:59
guessing like the first thing that comes to mind is that I'm guessing that christ
31:03
would like to like to buy beef jerkey. I remember you he bought that
31:07
stuff on tour back in the days, and beef jerkey and de ritos because
31:14
we didn't have that at that time. We haven't now, Um, do
31:18
you guys have beef jerkey? Though? Now? I think we could get
31:22
beef jerkey. I'm sure you have like cariboo jerky, right right, yeah?
31:26
Yeah, yeah, probably yeah, But I'm really not that into that.
31:30
Stuff. So yeah, well, I don't know what. I would
31:33
probably um gopher is, I don't know, maybe some sort of like typical
31:41
American food, like some sort of chain whatever it could be. Well,
31:48
you know, I remember Danni's for sure, because that was the only thing
31:52
that was open during the night time. So I mean we would end up
31:56
at Dennis all the time on tour. You know. Yeah, I was
31:59
sitting there at two o'clock in the morning, finished playing like soaking sweat and
32:04
yeah sweaty and slam, So I mean, yeah, sure, So I
32:09
mean something like that, I guess would be fun to you know, real
32:14
live. Yeah, if I went to if I went to La, I'd
32:20
probably go to Cheese scape Factory. Out of all the places in LA,
32:27
that's the place that's you're yeah, I know, I know it sucks.
32:31
I know it sucks. Yeah, I love that. I mean, and
32:37
In and Out I'd go to In and Out there do they have that?
32:40
And in the south Yeah, not typically that far to the to the east
32:45
though typically it's a little further Gas, so it's like, yeah, kind
32:50
of like the last in and outs are around like Texas. I like their
32:53
burgers, They're very good. Yeah, yeah, Well, I hope you
32:57
get the most like American South health experience when you're back in Birmingham. I'm
33:01
sure it's been greasy, yeah, just and greasy stuff. Yeah, sweet
33:07
tea, greasy stuff of meat right on. Yeah, I'm down on one
33:15
last thing. I'm very excited to see Olibo roods uh Southern accent because you
33:21
are a master of accents from everything I've heard, Uh, you love.
33:25
I don't think I can pull that one off. I bet you I could
33:29
with a little bit of experience there. I'm sure you're gonna you're gonna get
33:31
oh after a while being there, Yeah, oh maybe I could then,
33:35
yeah, because I don't know like where to start right now with that because
33:39
yeah, I guess I don't have too much experience with it, like firsthand,
33:45
So I guess I need that first. Yeah, a few days there,
33:47
and I think that you're gonna be able to pull it off super well,
33:50
you'll master it, all right, cool, all right? Top five
33:54
or the One Guilty Pleasure Artist. I guess the One Guilty Pleasure Yeah,
34:00
because you guys asked me so like right before we started this, and I
34:04
was like totally not prepared for that. Um. But the one thing that
34:08
I'm first of all, uh, let me just say that the whole concept
34:14
of guilty pleasures is kind of stupid because I mean, I just don't think
34:22
that any pleasure should be guilty, period. So I mean I could say
34:25
anything and it should be okay to like it. However, the closest I
34:31
could get to kind of make people go like do you like that would probably
34:37
be to say that I enjoy do a leapo. Oh okay, yeah,
34:44
that is that is a very very good guilty pleasure. Absolutely, yeah,
34:47
but then again, honest yeah, but then again, honestly, it's really
34:52
not it's not guilty. I just don't get it because it's good pop music
34:57
and I'm not embarrassed about liking that. I don't get it. See,
35:01
that's the thing. I think it should be a thing where like you feel
35:05
guilty. It's that other people would want you to feel guilty for liking that
35:08
artist. Okay, So for example, Culin loves Loves Creed. Remember Creed
35:16
back in the day. Yeah, sure, that's that's a band. Most
35:19
people are like, that's not a very good band, But Colin doesn't feel
35:23
guilty about liking them. But people would make fun of Cullen for liking Creed.
35:30
Yeah makes sense. I get it. I get it. Yeah,
35:31
sure, I get it. And maybe that you know, do a leap
35:35
would be that for you know me? Whatever, Yeah, totally. I
35:38
do think that she's a very good She's got a lot of good melodies,
35:42
very very catchy. Absolutely. I mean that future and nostalgia album. I
35:46
think it's packed with you know, really good melodies and yeah rhythms. I
35:52
listen to that music with my kids, my two sons the car on the
35:58
way to school or whatever. Yeah, and we also listen to UM,
36:02
especially my oldest son, him and I. We are totally into Silkxonic together.
36:07
Oh yeah, that is a great album. That's like the best pop
36:12
album that has been released in so many years. Yeah. Would you call
36:15
that? Would you call that neo soul? Is that what you would call
36:19
that? Not really, I would just call it soul, just really good
36:23
soul. And it's groovy and it has it has great melodies, great production,
36:30
and I mean Anderson Pok's drumming is just ridiculously cool. And yeah,
36:37
I just love it. I think it's so good. Yeah. I love
36:40
the I love like the sophisticated um melodical changes that go on in that song
36:45
or not that song, but that album in general. Yeah, absolutely not
36:50
something you're hearing on the radio much anymore. Um. Yeah, you know,
36:52
there's like I would say, like most of the stuff that you listen
36:55
to on the radio is kind of devoid of melody. Like it's certainly like
36:59
every song has melody, right, Yeah, but that's probably why I feel
37:02
that, especially that album like sticks out because it's just so it's rich kind
37:08
of you know, it really has something going instead of just you know,
37:14
putting on the radio and oh yeah, I've heard that melody a thousand times
37:19
today, you know. Kind of right, I think you're the cool dad
37:23
that drops off their kids at school. Huh. Actually, I mean it's
37:29
getting to that point where we listen to the music and then when we get
37:32
into the parking lot. My oldest Anton, he's like, Okay, turn
37:37
the music down now. It's like, yeah, you know, when I
37:43
was growing up, I had the exact opposite thing. So I would always
37:45
want to really sister to drop me off because she had a Ford Mustang and
37:52
my sister was quite a bit older than me, and I was like,
37:54
Jenny, can you turn the music up so I look cool? When I
37:58
get out of the car. Yeah, I mean my thoughts exactly, but
38:02
an it's not. I mean I do kind of a feeling that like,
38:07
like Norwegians in general, like obviously everyone, but like they they they're not
38:10
typically people that want the spotlight on them all the time, right, You're
38:15
absolutely right, that's very um like in general, that's a Norwegian thing.
38:20
Things are changing because probably because of the Internet, so young kids are getting
38:23
more and more used to like, you know, putting their face in front
38:28
of a camera and like this is my life. You know, So that's
38:32
happening. But at the same time, like in the in the very soul
38:36
of Norway and Norwegian people. Uh, it's absolutely right that we're kind of
38:43
like, you know, taking the backseat and yeah no, yeah, yeah,
38:47
don't let me get in the way. You know, that Scandinavian influence
38:52
has definitely you know, like if you go to Minnesota, Minnesota's are very
38:54
much the same way. They try to keep them you know, that sort
38:59
of midway Western you know vibe where we're not yep, we're not gonna be
39:04
up in the in the spotlight. Uh. In fact, I remember like
39:07
growing up you really look down on people that like we're always trying to be
39:09
the people who wanted you know, all the spotlight and all the recognition and
39:14
everything, so that that's definitely a Skinavian influence in the Midwest for sure.
39:19
Yeah. So everybody was like when Prince showed up and you know, yeah,
39:24
what in the world, Like do we have him here? Yeah?
39:29
Yeah, I have no idea. It's kind of funny. Yeah, is
39:31
that is the is the yah thing that you make fun of us for,
39:36
which I think is great. That's exactly how we talk. Is that.
39:37
That's gotta be a scan Navian influence. So like, that's gotta be how
39:40
you guys say yeah, right, yeah it is. I mean we say
39:45
yeah, so it's it's it's a bit more like overpronounced when I hear oh
39:51
yeah, you know it's like but definitely it's a it's a scanny Navian thing
39:55
because that's the way we say yes basically right and and um when you when
40:00
you like pronounce very so that you can hear it, you say that the
40:06
jay in the beginning Yah, that's very Norwegian. In Sweden they also say
40:13
yeah, but they are more likely to say like, oh you know interesting,
40:19
yeah, yeah, it say's a little bit more subtle. Yeah,
40:22
that could be. And then in Denmark they would say yeah, yeah,
40:29
interesting, which is which is yaw to them. So but in Norway it's
40:34
like very yah. And Minnesota is as far as I know, like you
40:39
know, ancestor thing right Norway, I suppose oh yeah, so so many
40:45
Skaninavians in Minnesota. It's great. So a lot of sons, a lot
40:51
of something Son Jorgenson or Morganson or you know, Something's son, a lot
40:55
of them Smorgason, Morgus, Sorry it's Morgus, Moorgson. What do you
41:04
wanna What do you want to plug? Obviously you're always working on on new
41:07
music. Obviously Extol's gonna be playing furnace fast, But yeah, what do
41:13
you want to plug? What do you want to tell the world? What
41:15
you're doing in the world? Wow? Um, well, I still have
41:20
my Soul Letters album out, and um that is kind of like the latest
41:24
thing I released on my own. I'm currently working on a new single actually
41:30
that's probably not going to be out until at the earliest April something. I
41:36
think. The funny thing is that like talk about being an oldie, but
41:42
it's kind of like a new thing to me. To release a single.
41:45
Wow, I'm crazy because I've always been like an album guy, and you
41:51
know, still I like the idea and the concept of albums, but this
41:53
time I'm like stepping out of my comfort zone and I'm releasing a single.
42:00
Whoa, So yeah whatever, So that's happening, um and um. There
42:06
are other things happening, but um, I can't say too much about it
42:13
right now. Okay, okay, yeah, which is kind of cool.
42:16
Huh yeah, all right, well well well well we're gonna have to talk
42:20
to you again soon then once we do find out what that is. M
42:22
m yeah. So things are happening, I mean, yeah, good stuff.
42:30
We're super stoked. We're super stoked. Cool Colin, you look like
42:34
you're you're you're high there. I can't see or hear only anymore, so
42:38
I have no idea what he really is going on five minutes weird well only
42:45
um, I can't see or hear you right now, but thanks again for
42:50
coming on. Man. I don't know what Mason was reacting to, but
42:54
I'm excited to hear what it was. Anyways, sell Colin. Um,
43:00
thanks, I appreciate coming on once again. I love a great hang and
43:05
uh yeah, we're we're excluded again. We're excited, we're excited for whatever.
43:09
You've got something new coming out, and guess what, we're gonna see
43:13
you in like eight months, so we're super super stoked. That's that's pretty
43:17
awesome. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be great. So thanks again,
43:22
only my pleasure. Thank you,