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Mahomes Gets Paid Again, Cousins & Mendoza, Brendan Sorsby Update & Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on my people? How are
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Speaker 1: we doing? Hopefully you're doing well, living life, enjoying life.
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Speaker 1: That was the twenty six is flying by. We're not
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Speaker 1: that far away from July fourth, and once July fourth hits,
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Speaker 1: football is kind of right around the corner. So it'll
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Speaker 1: it'll creep up on us quick and trust me, we'll
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Speaker 1: be ready. But we got a lot going on football wise.
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Speaker 1: Mahomes basically going to be a chief for life, be
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Speaker 1: really rich. Cousins had some comments on mentorship when it
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Speaker 1: came to Fernando Mendoza. Ben Johnson said, I'm a better
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Speaker 1: coach now than I've ever been. Some thoughts there just
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Speaker 1: with the coaching profession, something with Soresby. You know, his
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Speaker 1: lawyers are pushing just kind of bothering me. Uh not.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of different than what all the media is
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Speaker 1: talking about. This theme is just something that I see
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Speaker 1: dive into some football. But let's just dive into the
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Speaker 1: Mahomes thing because we talked about this yesterday with players
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Speaker 1: that are holding in you know, George Pickens currently right,
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Speaker 1: or Christian Gonzalez, these guys that want new contracts, and
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Speaker 1: the contracts for Pro Bowl level players non quarterback at
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Speaker 1: non offensive tackle or pass rusher, I mean a corner
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Speaker 1: is going to easily get over one hundred million dollars
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Speaker 1: guaranteed in thirty plus a year. These wide receivers are
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Speaker 1: making thirty to thirty five million dollars a year, So
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Speaker 1: the amount of money you're paying them that aren't ever
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Speaker 1: going to be the most important guy on your team.
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Speaker 1: Is astronomical at this point. And while football is much
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Speaker 1: bigger in terms of basketball with their cap, just because
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Speaker 1: the numbers are bigger, you have more players to deal with.
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Speaker 1: The top five or six guys that you pay on
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Speaker 1: your team, including your quarterback, dictate the way you can
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Speaker 1: build a bad boy. It's why you're at such a
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Speaker 1: big advantage when it comes to a rookie quarterback. But
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Speaker 1: when you get into business with people in pro sports,
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Speaker 1: it's not that much different than the world's were in
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Speaker 1: The numbers are typically way bigger, But like, once you
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Speaker 1: get into business with someone, the key is you have
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Speaker 1: to trust them. Obviously, you got to bring some to
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Speaker 1: the table of value depending on what you do. You
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Speaker 1: got to make money for your partner, for the company
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Speaker 1: you're working for, regardless where you're at. But like, once
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Speaker 1: you prove you can produce, you're gonna have options, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, do I want to stay here? Because one
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Speaker 1: thing Patrick Mahomes has proven is his trust level in
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Speaker 1: the chiefs is incredibly high. Right, he could bend them
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Speaker 1: over for more money. He could definitely sign contracts or
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Speaker 1: extensions that weren't crazy long. His original extension I think
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Speaker 1: was ten years, four and fifty million dollars. No agent
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Speaker 1: would advise doing that. Why because if you sign a
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Speaker 1: shorter term deal, you come back to free agency earlier
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Speaker 1: and you can break your off again. Why most of
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks signed four and five year extensions. Patrick Mahomes
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Speaker 1: essentially assigned two extensions, you know, over the course of
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Because he trusts the ownership He clearly trusts
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Speaker 1: with all of his soul, Brett Veach and Andy Reid.
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Speaker 1: Why would he not. Everything they have done for him
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Speaker 1: has created, you know, a mini dynasty. He's become one
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Speaker 1: of the biggest stars in all of sports. The power
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Speaker 1: in football. It doesn't matter where you play. Right, Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen just led the league in jersey sales this past season. Right,
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen sells more jerseys than anyone else. I've never
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Speaker 1: been to Buffalo, but by all accounts, it's not one
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Speaker 1: of our major markets. Kansas City. Once Patrick Mahomes began
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Speaker 1: playing in twenty eighteen, over the course of the next
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Speaker 1: six or seven years, based on television ratings, became the
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys overnight, and starting in twenty twenty when Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes surpassed I don't know the greatest quarterback of all time,
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady in jersey sales. He held that for the
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Speaker 1: next five years, and I would say I read the
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Speaker 1: day that he was six in this rating where Allen's won,
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Speaker 1: probably because a lot of those kids have already bought
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Speaker 1: the jersey. So the NFL, unlike basketball, which this series
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Speaker 1: is doing huge numbers. Guess what series did not last
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Speaker 1: year Indiana, OKC. I didn't watch why. I didn't feel
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Speaker 1: it mattered. I watched Game seven. But this series culturally
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Speaker 1: feels big. Why because the New York Knicks are involved,
5:32
Speaker 1: and that actually elevates Victor Webman Yama if he was
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Speaker 1: playing the Cleveland Cavaliers. I'll promise you this, twenty three
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Speaker 1: million people wouldn't watched Game three of the NBA Finals,
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Speaker 1: and it's not It's always been that way with the NBA,
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Speaker 1: and obviously baseball market size matters. The Yankees being involved,
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Speaker 1: the Cubs being involved, the Dodgers being involved, the Knicks,
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Speaker 1: the Lakers, they impact our viewership. We're in football. If
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Speaker 1: you are good, you can become an absolute superstar and
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Speaker 1: your team can move the needle for the league, whether
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Speaker 1: you're the forty nine Ers, the Dallas Cowboys, the New
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Speaker 1: York Giants, or whether you're the Kansasite Chiefs or the
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, which right now are two of the biggest
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Speaker 1: rated teams in the entire league. They're the equals with
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Obviously, the Cowboys are somewhat of an outlier
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Speaker 1: a lot like baseball and basketball, they haven't won anything
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Speaker 1: meaningful in three decades. Ye know, when they're on TV,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people watch, you know, I mean it's
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Speaker 1: They're a polarizing franchise for a reason. They got a
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Speaker 1: lot of people to care about them, and the Chiefs
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Speaker 1: have proven this and Patrick mut like a business partnership
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Speaker 1: goes both ways. Lebron James is an incredible player, and
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Speaker 1: if he was on your team for the majority of
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Speaker 1: his career l even this year, your team's gonna be
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Speaker 1: good in the prime of his career, You're gonna be
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Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. But it wasn't the easiest business
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Speaker 1: partnership to be involved in. You had to do everything
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Speaker 1: he wanted to do, which sometimes would work and sometimes
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Speaker 1: would not. And sometimes you didn't know if he was
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Speaker 1: gonna stay or lead, and he wanted you to trade everything,
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Speaker 1: and you're like, eh, you know, can this be a
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Speaker 1: little back and forth, Like we got no problem trading
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Speaker 1: everything if you can just commit to us in other years.
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Speaker 1: I can't do it, won't do it. You know. Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes is probably the easiest business partnership in when it
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Speaker 1: comes to the NFL since Tom Brady for twenty plus
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Speaker 1: years for the Patriots when he was taking major discounts.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I know a lot of guys there.
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Speaker 1: The number one thing they always say about the guy,
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Speaker 1: and this goes back to twenty eighteen, was his work ethic,
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Speaker 1: was his dedication. Was how he operates as a teammate,
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Speaker 1: how he operates in the locker room, how he sets
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Speaker 1: the tone. From a work ethics standpoint, think about this.
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Speaker 1: He tears his ACL not week one towards ACL late
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Speaker 1: in the season and he's already taken reps in seven
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Speaker 1: on seven. You cannot do that if you don't hit
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Speaker 1: the rehab like you're a practice squad player afraid for
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Speaker 1: your spot. Yet this guy, I googled it before I
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Speaker 1: jumped on here, has already made two hundred and thirty
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Speaker 1: million dollars and that's just from the Chiefs last night. Checked.
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Speaker 1: Whenever I look up on the television, seems like he's
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Speaker 1: in a lot of commercials, so financially he's made so
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Speaker 1: much money he doesn't even know what to do with.
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Speaker 1: And I've never like some of these if you're only
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Speaker 1: gonna be a one contract guy, or you just never know,
8:16
Speaker 1: or you kind of come out of nowhere. I got
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Speaker 1: no problem being greedy. But once you become a great player, Like,
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Speaker 1: what the hell's the difference of having a career earnings
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Speaker 1: of four hundred and fifty million and five hundred and
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Speaker 1: twenty million. It's literally nothing. Your life changes zero, especially
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Speaker 1: when you become a marketable star and you're making probably
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Speaker 1: a similar amount off the field or off the court.
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Speaker 1: You're so filthy rich it's stupid. So once you find
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Speaker 1: a place that will support you, that you feel comfortable with,
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Speaker 1: that your family enjoys, right, that there is something to
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Speaker 1: be said. You know a lot of people, we get
8:55
Speaker 1: a lot of dms at young people asking career advice,
8:58
Speaker 1: people going through tough decisions, and these are something that
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Speaker 1: only you personally, truly can know about all the different variables.
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Speaker 1: But once you find something that's working, you find a
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Speaker 1: place that you like to live, a community, a friendship group,
9:14
Speaker 1: a company, whatever. Like, you don't always need to be
9:18
Speaker 1: really greedy, because moving and jumping around and taking another
9:22
Speaker 1: job for a little bit more money isn't always the
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Speaker 1: answer and sometimes backfires in your face. Right now, I
9:28
Speaker 1: never fault anyone. For most people in the real world.
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Speaker 1: If you're making eighty K and like, I don't really
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Speaker 1: want to go work for this guy, but he's tripling
9:35
Speaker 1: my salary, well it's like, yeah, you got no choice.
9:38
Speaker 1: But the difference between making forty five million and fifty million,
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Speaker 1: if it adds to your ability to win more. When
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Speaker 1: you win more, you become more marketable off the field.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Tom Brady is never especially in ten more years,
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Speaker 1: won't even be in the top fifty of career earnings
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. But over the course of his life,
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Speaker 1: because of the dynasty he was a part of and
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Speaker 1: he helped facilitate, because of his cap management, he is
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Speaker 1: going to make way more money post football than he
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Speaker 1: ever did playing and the value of that. There's a
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Speaker 1: reason any of you guys that live in these cities
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Speaker 1: with championship players, whether it be basketball, football, or baseball.
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Speaker 1: There's a reason those guys come back around. Why because
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Speaker 1: they profit off it. They profit off their name, image
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Speaker 1: and likeness of being a champion. Hell, some of these
10:27
Speaker 1: guys don't even win a championship in this city or
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Speaker 1: a city. Look at the Knicks. Patrick Ewing didn't win
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Speaker 1: a championship. John Starks didn't win a championship. You become
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Speaker 1: part of this community in a city, and you can
10:41
Speaker 1: build businesses around your name. So I give Patrick a
10:45
Speaker 1: lot of credit for just kind of understanding that, Like
10:49
Speaker 1: he's got it pretty fucking good, you know, you know it.
10:53
Speaker 1: There's not some better situation out there where maybe he
10:57
Speaker 1: could get a little bit more money, or he could
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Speaker 1: take advantage of the Chiefs and try to get a
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Speaker 1: little bit more money. Like he understands. This is as
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Speaker 1: close to football heaven as I'm gonna get. Speaking of quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins rejected the notion that he's gonna mentor for
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Speaker 1: Nando Mendozo, and I thought about it for a second,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I actually kind of agree with him. You know,
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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco a couple of years ago or over the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years, toward the end of his career ride.
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Speaker 1: He's technically still in the league, but has pushed back
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Speaker 1: against that as well, like I'm being paid to play quarterback.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a dick or an asshole. I'm gonna help
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Speaker 1: people out. But my job on a daily basis is
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Speaker 1: not to just be a father figure. And I thought
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Speaker 1: about it from my own personal experience. You know, the
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Speaker 1: best advice I think I've ever gotten professionally from all
11:50
Speaker 1: the different people I've worked with, whether it goes back
11:53
Speaker 1: to Fresno State with Pat Hill or Andy Reid and
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Speaker 1: Howie to being around Colin, is just being able to
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Speaker 1: watch them and take mental notes of like this is
12:03
Speaker 1: what it takes to be at the top of your profession.
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Speaker 1: And I've obviously been pretty lucky to be around some
12:11
Speaker 1: people that would be viewed as, you know, pretty special
12:14
Speaker 1: in their individual industries. But even if you're working for
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Speaker 1: a company with a guy that no one could point
12:20
Speaker 1: out of a lineup outside of your own company, if
12:23
Speaker 1: he's damn good at his job and you're a young person,
12:26
Speaker 1: take mental notes. That's really where you come the farthest.
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Speaker 1: I would imagine if you had some course lights with
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and they've talked about this before. The best
12:37
Speaker 1: thing Alex Smith ever did for him was just show
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Speaker 1: him through his actions how to be a pro. What
12:46
Speaker 1: a Monday through Friday looked like, what time to get
12:48
Speaker 1: to the office, what time it took after practice to
12:52
Speaker 1: grind on, how to study film, what it looked like
12:55
Speaker 1: in the weight room, what it looked like to prepare
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Speaker 1: a diet, what it looked like to take your profession
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Speaker 1: seriously for six plus months during the season, and how
13:05
Speaker 1: to interact with coaches, What type questions to ask. I
13:10
Speaker 1: don't even think over the course of my decade plus
13:12
Speaker 1: of knowing Colin, I've truly asked him that many questions
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Speaker 1: for professional advice. But what he has taught me just
13:20
Speaker 1: from my time going down to the herd and watching
13:23
Speaker 1: how they operate with Fox is worth more than any
13:26
Speaker 1: advice he ever could have actually told me, and getting
13:29
Speaker 1: a front row seat to that. And I think one
13:32
Speaker 1: famous interaction from football is the Farvan Rodgers and the
13:37
Speaker 1: problem with Farvin Rodgers is Farv was just a royal
13:40
Speaker 1: asshole to him, right, And Aaron's talked about this, and
13:43
Speaker 1: he's tried to be different as his age with some
13:45
Speaker 1: of the younger quarterback It's why his relationship with Jordan
13:48
Speaker 1: Love and then his guys over the last couple of
13:50
Speaker 1: years have seen pretty solid because he saw firsthand what
13:53
Speaker 1: you don't want to be like. But the greatest gift
13:57
Speaker 1: that he could have given Zach Wilson that he can
14:00
Speaker 1: if Will Howard or any of the guys with the
14:03
Speaker 1: obviously Drew Aller who they just drafted, is just by
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Speaker 1: doing what he's always done. His work ethic is preparation,
14:10
Speaker 1: and if those guys understand like where they want to go,
14:17
Speaker 1: they would take the most incredible either mental notes or
14:20
Speaker 1: physical notes that will change the course of their life
14:24
Speaker 1: because whether it's football or whether it's something they don't
14:27
Speaker 1: last long in football and they go to the real world,
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Speaker 1: it will be invaluable to them. So Kirk Cousins wasn't
14:34
Speaker 1: paid to just tell Fernando Mendez everything to do. The
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Speaker 1: reason that I bet Spytech and Clint Kubiak would reiterate
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Speaker 1: this behind closed doors. It was just so Fernando had
14:45
Speaker 1: someone to be around so we could look up to.
14:47
Speaker 1: This is always the knock of like the Sam Hinky Sixers.
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Speaker 1: It's like they tanked forever and then they just had
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Speaker 1: this losing culture and they're like, well, now it's time
14:56
Speaker 1: to win. Well, who the fuck did some of your
14:59
Speaker 1: young core studs have to look at and go, that's
15:04
Speaker 1: what I want to do. That's the way I want
15:07
Speaker 1: to operate. When you just basically attempted to lose every
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Speaker 1: game for years on end with those guys in the building,
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Speaker 1: so shocking. The history of your franchise once those guys
15:18
Speaker 1: got into prominent roles has been an underachievement because that
15:24
Speaker 1: shouldn't be tolerated, and with good organizations, that is never tolerated.
15:29
Speaker 1: So I think you know, Garrett Nssmyer, who is just
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Speaker 1: drafted to the Kansasite Chiefs, however long he stays there,
15:39
Speaker 1: being around Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Eric Bienemy
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Speaker 1: and their offensive staff should change the course of his life,
15:47
Speaker 1: whether he ends up creating a finance company or insurance
15:50
Speaker 1: company or a restaurant or plays in the NFL for
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Speaker 1: fifteen years, just being able to watch their actions on
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Speaker 1: a daily basis. So Cousin's mentorship isn't through just holding
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Speaker 1: the guy's hand on a daily basis. Obviously he's a
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Speaker 1: good human being. If Fernando Mendoza ask questions, he's gonna
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Speaker 1: tell him, he's gonna help him out. But the best
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Speaker 1: thing he can do, just like the best thing any
16:14
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback can do for a young player, is just
16:17
Speaker 1: operate how you're supposed to at a high level. And
16:20
Speaker 1: then if those guys aren't idiots, they just watch and
16:25
Speaker 1: then they kind of follow, and then they kind of
16:27
Speaker 1: put their own spin on it. But like most human
16:30
Speaker 1: beings that show up at any company, you don't really
16:34
Speaker 1: know what you're doing. And I would imagine many people listening,
16:38
Speaker 1: whether it's a big tech company or whether it's a
16:40
Speaker 1: smaller firm, you know, the the onboarding process. Most people
16:44
Speaker 1: after a while aren't just gonna hold your hand every day.
16:48
Speaker 1: There's a private sector you're fucking paid to produce. You
16:51
Speaker 1: kind of got to figure it out on your own.
16:53
Speaker 1: So you it's upon you as the young person to
16:57
Speaker 1: ask questions and just kind of watch and pay attention
17:01
Speaker 1: of what needs to be done. And by all accounts,
17:04
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza is the type person to do that, take
17:08
Speaker 1: good notes, figure out the way to operate, the way
17:11
Speaker 1: not to operate. And then again we're all different. It's
17:15
Speaker 1: like when you hear someone a great band or a
17:17
Speaker 1: great singer do a cover, even if it's an incredible cover,
17:22
Speaker 1: it sounds a lot different than the original. Why it's
17:26
Speaker 1: a different person. So Patrick Mahomes probably operates different than
17:30
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who probably operates different from Lamar Jackson, who
17:33
Speaker 1: probably operates different Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, but there
17:36
Speaker 1: is probably a similarity to the way Monday through Friday works,
17:41
Speaker 1: or a lot of parallels between all of them, and Cousins,
17:45
Speaker 1: who's not as good as those guys, probably the same thing.
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Speaker 1: And if anything, he might go above and beyond because
17:50
Speaker 1: physically he has to because he doesn't have the capability
17:53
Speaker 1: to run away, because he doesn't have the capability to
17:55
Speaker 1: make up for, you know, a ball that he's a
17:58
Speaker 1: little late on because his arms not as strong as
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Speaker 1: some guys. So he's actually a great person for a
18:04
Speaker 1: young quarterback to just watch. Honestly, that could be whether
18:09
Speaker 1: I'm starting or whether early on in the season I'm
18:11
Speaker 1: the backup. Kind of irrelevant, because I would imagine Kirk
18:14
Speaker 1: Cousins has approached a Tuesday at Wednesday at Thursday, whether
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Speaker 1: he was the starting quarterback or not the starting quarterback
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Speaker 1: the same way for a decade plus, So I agree
18:25
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins mentorship when it comes to quarterbacks a
18:29
Speaker 1: little overrated. I saw Ben Johnson. He did another press
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Speaker 1: conference today. They must have their mandatory mini camps going
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Speaker 1: right now, and he was talking about how he's a
18:41
Speaker 1: much better play caller than he was when he originally
18:43
Speaker 1: started in twenty twenty two, and I thought, well, I mean,
18:47
Speaker 1: I would imagine most coaches there is no shot at him.
18:50
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just asked the question how he's
18:52
Speaker 1: evolved and understanding situations better. You're going to get better
18:56
Speaker 1: as you get older as a coach, whether you're a
18:59
Speaker 1: CEO head coach or whether you're a play calling coach.
19:02
Speaker 1: But the one thing about football, like think how much
19:05
Speaker 1: better marketing is in twenty twenty six than it was
19:08
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. Before you know, Budweiser or any
19:12
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19:16
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19:19
Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily know exactly what the ROI was on
19:24
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19:26
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19:29
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19:32
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19:34
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19:39
Speaker 1: hard to quantify. You know, you could tell there was
19:42
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19:45
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19:47
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19:52
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19:55
Speaker 1: testament to you guys why this show has done pretty
19:57
Speaker 1: well over the course of a half decade since we've
20:00
Speaker 1: you know, really kind of turned it up business wise,
20:03
Speaker 1: because they can track who goes, but per individual who goes.
20:08
Speaker 1: It's a big part of these gambling companies, right how
20:11
Speaker 1: many gamblers do you funnel or how many promo codes
20:14
Speaker 1: do they use? And how many sign ups do you
20:17
Speaker 1: that's the business. Twenty years ago, they just would have
20:20
Speaker 1: given you a blank check or whatever the same check
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Speaker 1: is and keep their fingers crossed. People came through you,
20:25
Speaker 1: but they didn't know. And the thing with football that
20:31
Speaker 1: will never change is so much as out of your
20:34
Speaker 1: control as a coach, so much is Andy Reid is
20:40
Speaker 1: probably better now than he ever has been in his
20:43
Speaker 1: entire career when it comes to situations. When it comes
20:45
Speaker 1: to dealing with players, when it comes to understanding of offense,
20:49
Speaker 1: understanding of defense, it's there's no way. I mean, it's
20:53
Speaker 1: literally impossible. He's never seen more football than he has
20:58
Speaker 1: today relative to what he was with the Philadelphia Eagles
21:01
Speaker 1: or early on in his Kansasy Chiefs tenure. He won
21:04
Speaker 1: six to eleven last year. And that's the thing with
21:07
Speaker 1: football that is so much different than a lot of
21:09
Speaker 1: these businesses that like, once you figure it out, it's
21:12
Speaker 1: like a borderline lock, it's going to work for a minute, right, Obviously,
21:16
Speaker 1: things can change. You've seen golp ones impact the booze business.
21:20
Speaker 1: They've impacted some fast food businesses like but that's out
21:24
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I don't think anyone kind of saw that
21:27
Speaker 1: one coming five plus years ago. But clearly the health
21:30
Speaker 1: kick over the course of the last ten five years
21:35
Speaker 1: has kind of changed society a little bit, and we'll
21:38
Speaker 1: change with it, and more companies will come and people
21:40
Speaker 1: will have success in that kind of area, which they
21:44
Speaker 1: already are. But in football, if you have a couple
21:49
Speaker 1: of major injuries or players that you were depending on,
21:53
Speaker 1: either through a free agency signing or draft picks, don't hit.
21:58
Speaker 1: You could be better now than you've ever been and
22:01
Speaker 1: not have success on a given year. I like the
22:04
Speaker 1: Bears this year. There are clearly some question marks on defense,
22:07
Speaker 1: but there are also some question marks, and I would
22:10
Speaker 1: say Ben Johnson is the least doublem. Ben Johnson is
22:13
Speaker 1: the least of their questions. He could be better now
22:16
Speaker 1: than he was last year, and they could not win
22:19
Speaker 1: the division if things got weird. Hell, they could not
22:21
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And this just isn't about him specifically.
22:23
Speaker 1: I mean two years ago, Kyle Shannon, they went six
22:25
Speaker 1: to eleven, last year the Chiefs six and eleven. Football's
22:29
Speaker 1: fucking weird because over all the sports right, maybe hockey,
22:34
Speaker 1: but I don't know that quite well enough. The injury factor,
22:38
Speaker 1: in the injury variable can just creep up at any moment.
22:42
Speaker 1: You can lose a guy to the shattered leg the
22:44
Speaker 1: first day of training camp. You can lose a guy
22:46
Speaker 1: to a torn peck lifting in July. You can lose
22:51
Speaker 1: a guy to getting in trouble. I don't know where.
22:53
Speaker 1: I mean, look at this week. The Rams have a
22:56
Speaker 1: great week. Oh and then their tackle gets in big
22:58
Speaker 1: trouble and reads the details doesn't look fucking great. He's
23:02
Speaker 1: a guy who's already been suspended as well, so that's
23:05
Speaker 1: one to keep an eye on. Last time I checked
23:09
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, this is not twenty twelve. He's not running
23:13
Speaker 1: away from pressures anymore. Protecting him is pretty important because
23:17
Speaker 1: his mobility relative to what it once was is basically zilch.
23:23
Speaker 1: He's essentially now in which I respect a lot. He's
23:26
Speaker 1: kind of morphed into this version of much more like
23:29
Speaker 1: Peyton and Tom, where historically he was like the shittier
23:34
Speaker 1: version of Rogers, huge arm, could move around and throw
23:38
Speaker 1: and was just this big time talent. And now he's
23:41
Speaker 1: much more upstairs still with the big arm, and he's
23:44
Speaker 1: like a true just dominant pocket quarterback. But with a
23:48
Speaker 1: dominant pocket quarterback, if your offensive line sucks, it can
23:51
Speaker 1: get weird, and it can get weird fast because you
23:53
Speaker 1: can't create anything out of nothing. So I think that's
23:56
Speaker 1: what makes football so fun is the variables with all
24:00
Speaker 1: these teams of like, hey, you just never know. You
24:02
Speaker 1: know Kevin O'Connell last year better than he's ever been
24:06
Speaker 1: as a coach in terms of knowledge understanding offensive acumen,
24:10
Speaker 1: and they missed the playoffs and at one point time
24:12
Speaker 1: they're four to eight. Why because they drafted JJ McCarthy.
24:15
Speaker 1: Turns out he sucked and it derailed their season big time.
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited for football. I'm excited for the Bears,
24:24
Speaker 1: but I just think no sport quite brings into question
24:27
Speaker 1: of like any year, things go off the rails quick.
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Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby, Let's just get right to the point. I
26:46
Speaker 1: think using mental health in this situation is a fucking joke.
26:51
Speaker 1: We've all made bad decisions. And when are bad decisions
26:56
Speaker 1: and we at cot doing them, there are typically repercussions
27:00
Speaker 1: and you get in trouble. He got caught red handed.
27:04
Speaker 1: I've said over and over, I don't really care, Like
27:07
Speaker 1: whether they suspended it for the year, kick him out
27:08
Speaker 1: of college football, I'm the losing any sleep. Whether they
27:11
Speaker 1: let him play, I'll pay attention. I'm kind of I
27:15
Speaker 1: don't give a crap. But he bettered his own team
27:19
Speaker 1: when he was on the team, Redschird freshman, and got
27:22
Speaker 1: caught like there are consequences to your actions right. You
27:29
Speaker 1: can be an alcoholic and need help. If you get
27:32
Speaker 1: behind the wheel and hit someone, cause damage, kill someone,
27:36
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in fucking big trouble. Whether you got
27:39
Speaker 1: mental health issues and need work on yourself and go
27:42
Speaker 1: to AA, that's fine, but that doesn't get you dissolve
27:47
Speaker 1: you of responsibility. And I this is not just a
27:52
Speaker 1: Brendan Soresby thing. This happens now in so many different instances.
27:57
Speaker 1: When you get caught doing something, you know mental health,
28:00
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we get it, but you did that,
28:05
Speaker 1: and you don't get to just distance yourself from it
28:08
Speaker 1: because of that. And I saw the Texas tech ad
28:12
Speaker 1: go on a long, long RNT and one of his
28:15
Speaker 1: main points was, first and foremost, we are not funding
28:19
Speaker 1: this this lawsuit. We have nothing to do with this
28:23
Speaker 1: is this individual. And I talked about this the other day.
28:26
Speaker 1: This is really only possible in a day and age
28:28
Speaker 1: when these football players are all millionaires, right, they asked
28:32
Speaker 1: RVL Reese. I saw a clip today on social media.
28:36
Speaker 1: They're like, what have you used to buy? Like, have
28:39
Speaker 1: you used anything with your you know, new NFL money? Like, no,
28:43
Speaker 1: don't really need anything. It's like, yeah, guys, Ohio state.
28:47
Speaker 1: These guys are making millions. I say, it's a fifty
28:49
Speaker 1: million dollars payroll, and their best players make the most money.
28:52
Speaker 1: So like, this guy's been rich for a couple of years.
28:55
Speaker 1: Maybe he's richer now, but like if he wanted that
28:58
Speaker 1: g wagon, he was like counting down the days until
29:01
Speaker 1: he signed the Giants contract. Times have changed, and I
29:05
Speaker 1: think the one thing that has definitely changed in this
29:08
Speaker 1: time is when you bring that up, it's like, well,
29:11
Speaker 1: that's kind off limits. You need some help. So yeah,
29:14
Speaker 1: we get it, you need some help, but you still
29:15
Speaker 1: got caught. So if their consequences to those actions with
29:19
Speaker 1: whatever you did, that's separate from whatever the fuck you
29:23
Speaker 1: gotta work on. And like people think I'm pro Brennan
29:28
Speaker 1: Soresby again, I don't care that much. I true, this
29:31
Speaker 1: is one of those stories where it's like maybe because
29:34
Speaker 1: it's Texas Tech, and if, like they won five games,
29:37
Speaker 1: it will not change my joy for college football at all.
29:40
Speaker 1: Hell I'm rooting for I'm an asu Kenny Dillingham, big
29:43
Speaker 1: twelve guy, But I just think them using that which
29:49
Speaker 1: they're not alone. Everyone uses that, It's like, give me
29:53
Speaker 1: a break. It'd be like me complaining to someone right now, like,
29:56
Speaker 1: I just I can't think straight. I'm really tired from
29:58
Speaker 1: the newborn. So, yeah, welcome to lif you have a baby,
30:01
Speaker 1: which in the history of civilizations, there's been a lot
30:04
Speaker 1: of guys that have dealt with newborns. Suck it the
30:07
Speaker 1: fuck up, you know, it's just part of the deal.
30:10
Speaker 1: Like Brent, you got to face the music, buddy, and
30:14
Speaker 1: I you know, I saw Colin going on the ran
30:15
Speaker 1: about some of these other programs, Georgia specifically that has
30:20
Speaker 1: a problem with players getting arrested constantly. Uh So a
30:26
Speaker 1: lot of these people going on their moral high ground,
30:30
Speaker 1: and I understand where he's coming from there. To me,
30:32
Speaker 1: it's more on the Soresby camp of claiming that like no,
30:36
Speaker 1: let's call let's call as bait. You're claiming that so
30:40
Speaker 1: you can play on a team that you think can
30:43
Speaker 1: make a playoff run and then you can turn into
30:45
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback, Like that's why you're claiming, Like,
30:49
Speaker 1: let's let's be real. I've known a lot of people
30:53
Speaker 1: that have gambled a lot that you call degenerates, and
30:56
Speaker 1: if they got caught up into something, they could also
30:59
Speaker 1: claim that, but they knew what they were doing. While
31:01
Speaker 1: they were doing it. And I just think that this
31:04
Speaker 1: situation to me, and I listened to a Jay billis
31:08
Speaker 1: go on this rant, he thinks and again he's, you know,
31:11
Speaker 1: a lawyer. I guess technically he is a basketball analyst
31:14
Speaker 1: by trade, lawyer by by through academics. He knows what
31:19
Speaker 1: he wanted to be originally. And then I think he's
31:21
Speaker 1: still my practice a little bit. He was pretty confident.
31:24
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, you read through the details, this
31:28
Speaker 1: will be overturned when it goes to the Texas Supreme
31:30
Speaker 1: Court where there are three Dutch judges at a five.
31:33
Speaker 1: He's like, a similar thing happened with that G league
31:35
Speaker 1: guy that the Alabama signed, and everyone's like the G
31:39
Speaker 1: League's gonna take over college basketball. He played one game
31:41
Speaker 1: that it got overturned. He couldn't play anymore. So it's like,
31:44
Speaker 1: I he was pretty confident based on the language. He's like,
31:48
Speaker 1: there's no way this stands. But I think them using
31:51
Speaker 1: that feels like a pretty big cop out. And I
31:54
Speaker 1: get most of the media is terrified to ever touch
31:56
Speaker 1: these topics. They always like, oh, just be nice to
31:59
Speaker 1: the guy. It's like, yeah, yeah, you got fucking cot man.
32:02
Speaker 1: I've done a lot of stupid shit in my life,
32:04
Speaker 1: and after you get caught, you feel like crap and
32:06
Speaker 1: you go into the tank. It's happened to all of us.
32:09
Speaker 1: But to play that card when the reason you're playing
32:12
Speaker 1: that card is to get out of trouble, he's kind
32:16
Speaker 1: of chicken shit. Let's just be real. I saw this
32:19
Speaker 1: guy in front of the Knicks game was asking people
32:21
Speaker 1: how much they paid for tickets going into Game three,
32:24
Speaker 1: and one of the guys he went up to was
32:26
Speaker 1: Juan Soto. He might not have known who it was
32:31
Speaker 1: one was with. Some might've been his wife. And you know,
32:37
Speaker 1: probably of all the people are asking saying like forty K,
32:40
Speaker 1: sixty K, one hundred K. Some of the guys were douchey,
32:44
Speaker 1: but then they asked him, and he might have been
32:46
Speaker 1: the richest of all the people they asked. You know,
32:48
Speaker 1: he's not a seven hundred million dollar contract. Oh you
32:51
Speaker 1: gott ask the Knicks basically, like the next game of
32:53
Speaker 1: the tickets, think about a lot of free tickets for
32:57
Speaker 1: prices they could sell for a lot. Let's do a
33:00
Speaker 1: couple mailback questions at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is
33:03
Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those DMS and get your questions
33:05
Speaker 1: answered on the show. What is going on with the
33:08
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk? Are the Niners really that petty to hold
33:11
Speaker 1: on until the last second just to stick it to
33:14
Speaker 1: him for a Measley seventh round pick? Why would the
33:17
Speaker 1: Commanders want him after seeing how toxic he is? Does
33:21
Speaker 1: Jayden really have that much juice over Adam Peters to
33:25
Speaker 1: get BA at the risk of messing up the culture there.
33:29
Speaker 1: I've met a lot of people text me like friends, like,
33:31
Speaker 1: did you ask Adam about BA? I was like, now,
33:34
Speaker 1: I never came up. You know, he had to run
33:36
Speaker 1: at the end, and we just besked a little bit
33:38
Speaker 1: before we jumped on. I don't see how anyone would
33:41
Speaker 1: take him. And once you know, listen, contract issues and
33:49
Speaker 1: coaches and players, there have been a lot of petty
33:51
Speaker 1: moments in the history of sports. Once you are constantly
33:54
Speaker 1: going on your phone and posting on Instagram and TikTok
34:00
Speaker 1: blatantly talking shit, I'd be petty too. So it's like
34:04
Speaker 1: I'd go to war with him. I find them I
34:08
Speaker 1: have no intention to trade him, and I have no
34:10
Speaker 1: intention to pay him. I am going to make it.
34:14
Speaker 1: You're gonna show up to trading camp, you're under contract.
34:18
Speaker 1: You know you're making fun that we paid you fifty
34:20
Speaker 1: million dollars and you just quit on us. Are you
34:23
Speaker 1: gonna show up to our first team meeting? Because if
34:24
Speaker 1: you don't, we'll find you and we'll suspend you indefinitely.
34:28
Speaker 1: I think he's doing enough. I mean, we've seen this
34:30
Speaker 1: happen with wide receivers in the past, where you just
34:33
Speaker 1: suspend and you just basically go double middle fingers and
34:37
Speaker 1: you go to war with the NFLPA, And this is
34:40
Speaker 1: one of those that it's like, are other players thinking
34:44
Speaker 1: the team's crazy because they're petty? Who is advising like Bah,
34:49
Speaker 1: just be quiet, don't get rid of you. But he's
34:51
Speaker 1: making it worse and worse and worse. I don't know
34:55
Speaker 1: the details where this truly went wrong. I don't remember
34:59
Speaker 1: a guy getting what he wanted in this enormous contract
35:04
Speaker 1: and then just turning into this like villain. Quite like him.
35:09
Speaker 1: I always thought he was a pretty high level guy.
35:11
Speaker 1: But I don't know what's going on. I mean, there
35:13
Speaker 1: are a lot of jokes online that BA is short.
35:18
Speaker 1: You know, you reverse it, you get ab, but I
35:21
Speaker 1: don't know. It's kind of weird to see. But if
35:26
Speaker 1: I'm the Niners. I'm ready to go to war. I'll
35:28
Speaker 1: make it worse. I try to. I'm not just cutting him.
35:33
Speaker 1: I make him show up a training camp and if
35:35
Speaker 1: he doesn't, then nice to spend him indefinitely. And I
35:37
Speaker 1: wonder if that's on the table for them now. You
35:40
Speaker 1: can make the argument like just move on, get rid
35:42
Speaker 1: of it, and I would agree. But these videos, if
35:46
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle, if I'm John, any coach would start taking
35:50
Speaker 1: these pretty personally. Kyle Shanahan, everyone in the building wanted
35:54
Speaker 1: to trade him. Kyle Shanahan was the guy that pounded
35:58
Speaker 1: the table to John Lynch and the money guys like
36:00
Speaker 1: we had to and made sure the deal got done. Question.
36:06
Speaker 1: I read that James Pierce could have charges dropped against him.
36:09
Speaker 1: He stocked and harassed a woman, rammed his car into hers,
36:12
Speaker 1: took police on a high speed chase, injured officers, but
36:16
Speaker 1: gets to sit in a little daycare program to talk
36:18
Speaker 1: about his feelings for six months and boom, charges are forgotten.
36:22
Speaker 1: Can you explain to me how this works? No clue, bro,
36:28
Speaker 1: Absolutely no clue. You see things on the internet every
36:31
Speaker 1: day when it comes to people getting out of trouble
36:34
Speaker 1: that just makes shake your head. But I know this,
36:39
Speaker 1: when you get double digit sacks, even if you are
36:42
Speaker 1: one of the biggest red flags in the league. I
36:45
Speaker 1: bet he's starting Week one if he's available, which by
36:47
Speaker 1: all accounts he will be. Falcons won't care. Are you
36:51
Speaker 1: going to tune into the UFC White House Card this Sunday?
36:55
Speaker 1: It's on Sunday to watch your boy Josh hoke It
37:00
Speaker 1: whose former Fresno State full back. Pretty sure he played
37:04
Speaker 1: for a little bit for the forty nine ers fight
37:07
Speaker 1: Derreck Lewis. I'll check it out. Is that just on
37:09
Speaker 1: the ESPN Plus or is that pay per view? I'm
37:12
Speaker 1: just not as dialed in on the UFC as many
37:15
Speaker 1: of you. But is it Sunday like night. The one
37:20
Speaker 1: thing my wife I don't understand is she will watch
37:23
Speaker 1: these murder documentaries of like a serial killer who killed
37:28
Speaker 1: seventeen people, dismembered every arm and leg for them, and
37:31
Speaker 1: hit them all over seven states, and then I'll like
37:34
Speaker 1: throw on boxing or UFC. She's like, got, it's too violent,
37:38
Speaker 1: it's too violent. Like Maria, you just watched eight murder
37:42
Speaker 1: documentaries of the most heinous, disgusting humans to ever walked
37:46
Speaker 1: the earth and you won't watch Jake Paul get punched
37:49
Speaker 1: in the face or Bob Menery get body slamm by
37:52
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel because it's too violent. I guys don't like
37:55
Speaker 1: watch fighting, but you watch murderers all the time. She
38:00
Speaker 1: doesn't even really like action movie and I'm a big
38:02
Speaker 1: action movie guy. Any war movie just shooting movie. There's
38:06
Speaker 1: a lot of shooting in the movie. I mean like,
38:07
Speaker 1: she doesn't really into that. And honestly that the killing
38:13
Speaker 1: documentaries to me, I just don't even want to know
38:18
Speaker 1: about it. I don't even want to know these humans exist.
38:23
Speaker 1: Listen to your take about the NCAA having no juice
38:26
Speaker 1: and it being the wild West. Do you see the
38:29
Speaker 1: inevitability of a team like Oregon who has Nike backing
38:33
Speaker 1: them and saying fuck it and will build an unreal dynasty?
38:37
Speaker 1: Think the college version of having Mahomes as your starter,
38:40
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is your backup, red shirting, lamar, etc. I mean,
38:47
Speaker 1: these teams already kind of are right. Ohio State is
38:51
Speaker 1: spending the most money, they're paying the most for coaches,
38:55
Speaker 1: and they're dominating. Now, it's football, It's hard to win,
38:58
Speaker 1: you know. Even when the Yankees were buying all the right,
39:00
Speaker 1: you know, players in the in the two thousands, like,
39:02
Speaker 1: it doesn't guarantee you to win. I think Oregon is
39:05
Speaker 1: spending a boatload of money. But here's the thing. As
39:09
Speaker 1: a player, if I'm going to make millions of dollars,
39:12
Speaker 1: like you said, stack my team, like a lot of
39:16
Speaker 1: guys want to start. So that's where it gets difficult
39:18
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Like one of the stories they kind of
39:23
Speaker 1: did that isn't Dylan Royola at Oregon? Think about that?
39:27
Speaker 1: Dylan Riola went from the starting quarterback at Nebraska to
39:31
Speaker 1: the Do I have that right? Is he at Orgon
39:33
Speaker 1: right now? Dylan La He's at Orgon? Think about that?
39:41
Speaker 1: So they're I mean, they're kind of doing it. That's
39:43
Speaker 1: where the haves and the have nots. It's like they's
39:47
Speaker 1: got a guy that started for multiple years to come
39:50
Speaker 1: and be their backup quarterback. I think how crazy that is.
39:53
Speaker 1: Now again, I'm not acting like Dylan Royola is Fernanda
39:56
Speaker 1: Mendoza here, but he committed to Oregon, So I would
40:00
Speaker 1: imagine they're playing Dante more clearly millions of dollars. They're
40:04
Speaker 1: probably paying Ryola millions of dollars. So these teams are
40:10
Speaker 1: and that's where the big ten. Oregon obviously, Indiana Ohio
40:18
Speaker 1: State clearly is the leader. Michigan's going to do this.
40:22
Speaker 1: They're kind of doing that. Curious to hear your opinion
40:28
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks new offensive coordinator. I've never met him personally,
40:32
Speaker 1: but when I used to go to forty nine or practice,
40:34
Speaker 1: he was the tight end coach and where the tight
40:37
Speaker 1: ends would practice. I think they've kind of messed with
40:39
Speaker 1: the fields there, but you would be like five feet
40:41
Speaker 1: away from those guys warming up, and him and Kittle
40:44
Speaker 1: are very very close. So you know, obviously George his career,
40:52
Speaker 1: Georgie was not some superstar in college like he was.
40:56
Speaker 1: He fell at the fifth round one because I will
40:58
Speaker 1: kind of crush them, and two, there was a lot
41:00
Speaker 1: of question marks with like what you know, he wasn't
41:02
Speaker 1: that productive in college. He obviously got a lot bigger
41:05
Speaker 1: and stronger in the pros. But the George Kittle that's
41:08
Speaker 1: the NFL knows was not the guy that was coming
41:11
Speaker 1: out of college. And he's been a big part of
41:14
Speaker 1: I think George has even said it his growth, but
41:17
Speaker 1: there's a big and in last year I think he
41:19
Speaker 1: became the run game coordinator. He'd been with with Kyle forever.
41:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see how long let's bring up Brian Flurry
41:29
Speaker 1: is his name. Kind of a crazy career, a little Belichickian.
41:35
Speaker 1: He got into the NFL as a defensive guy because
41:40
Speaker 1: it looks like he was. I don't know what position
41:46
Speaker 1: he played in college, but he must have played defense
41:49
Speaker 1: because he broke into the NFL in twenty thirteen. He
41:54
Speaker 1: is a linebacker coach. Linebacker coach started with the forty
41:59
Speaker 1: nine defensive quality control under Robert Sola, and then he
42:03
Speaker 1: moved to offensive quality control in twenty and twenty one.
42:06
Speaker 1: So maybe George is already really good by the time
42:09
Speaker 1: he really took over, but tight ends, but George loves
42:12
Speaker 1: him basically the last four years. And then the run
42:16
Speaker 1: game coordinator. I mean, pretty crazy rise. You don't see
42:20
Speaker 1: many guys in football. I think Rohie Morris Belichick used
42:24
Speaker 1: always do it with the josh Is, the Patricias, the Flores.
42:27
Speaker 1: They would work kind of both sides of the ball
42:29
Speaker 1: early on in their career. But this guy has been
42:31
Speaker 1: an outside linebackers coach in the NFL and now he's
42:36
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. There can't be many offensive coordinators in
42:40
Speaker 1: the NFL that have ever coached on defense. I'm pretty
42:47
Speaker 1: sure Clint Kubiak was a safety in college. I thinka
42:52
Speaker 1: Colorado State he played safety, Have that right? Yeah, he
42:56
Speaker 1: played safety at Coloro State, which when I was a
43:00
Speaker 1: GA at Fresnel State, we played that Colorado State team
43:04
Speaker 1: in the New Mexico Bowl. You know, Albertquerque not the
43:10
Speaker 1: ideal places to have a bowl game. I'll be honest.
43:12
Speaker 1: It doesn't suck, but you'd probably rather go to Hawaii
43:15
Speaker 1: or San Diego. Did you have any teams that you
43:21
Speaker 1: hated growing up? I don't think the Niners had any
43:23
Speaker 1: big rivals, but is there a particular team you hated. Also,
43:28
Speaker 1: one of the biggest food guys he's in America right
43:30
Speaker 1: now has to be cable news. I was at the
43:32
Speaker 1: gym on Sunday at four pm and the news was on.
43:34
Speaker 1: I once went at ten pm and somehow the news
43:37
Speaker 1: was still on. Who on Earth is watching this? I
43:39
Speaker 1: can honestly think anything more lame than watching cable news
43:43
Speaker 1: all day. I think a lot of older people watch
43:47
Speaker 1: cable news. So I think if you go, you know,
43:52
Speaker 1: typically if you go to the gym early in the
43:55
Speaker 1: morning and you go to the cardio area, A lot
43:58
Speaker 1: of the older people will have cable news on. You know,
44:03
Speaker 1: I think as you go through the day that you know,
44:05
Speaker 1: with my gym on the big TVs beside the ones
44:09
Speaker 1: on the cardio equipment, it's usually ESPN, Fox Sports, Won,
44:15
Speaker 1: you know, during the weekend, if games were on, they'll
44:17
Speaker 1: change it or Peat. You know, Golf the golf channels
44:19
Speaker 1: on a lot. Uh. Do I hate anyone growing up
44:29
Speaker 1: from a football standpoint? Not really, because when I really
44:32
Speaker 1: came in, the Niners and the Cowboys were going at it.
44:34
Speaker 1: But I don't really hate the Cowboys. They had a
44:37
Speaker 1: cool ass team, uh, I would say. Then they became
44:40
Speaker 1: big rivals with the Packers. Farvar was like the coolest
44:44
Speaker 1: guy in sports beside Michael Jordan in the nineties. So
44:47
Speaker 1: it's like I wanted the forty nine ers to win
44:49
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, but I didn't hate Brett Farv. Baseball,
44:55
Speaker 1: you know, the Giants didn't really have any rivals. They
44:58
Speaker 1: played the Braves in the nineties, I guess. But it's
45:00
Speaker 1: like I like Maddix and Glavin and the Crime Dog,
45:04
Speaker 1: the team I truly hated as a kid, and I
45:06
Speaker 1: still kind of root against her the Lakers, But being
45:10
Speaker 1: in this business long enough, I do appreciate the bank,
45:13
Speaker 1: the brand, the fan base. Now they got this new ownership.
45:17
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face a genie and a brother's fucking clowns.
45:20
Speaker 1: I mean they were fucking losers. Doctor Buss was clearly
45:25
Speaker 1: operated in a high level. But the family, I mean,
45:27
Speaker 1: what a joke. So this guy's gonna They're gonna be good.
45:34
Speaker 1: Lakers probably be the only team. I yeah, I go
45:38
Speaker 1: through stretches where I like root against Ohio States or
45:42
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think as I've gotten older
45:46
Speaker 1: in this business, I just kind of root for stories,
45:49
Speaker 1: you know, on the three and out text. The other day,
45:52
Speaker 1: I was like, I want Brennan Swordsby to play this
45:54
Speaker 1: year from a content standpoint, you know, if he just
45:58
Speaker 1: doesn't play like text text on at INCH. We didn't
46:00
Speaker 1: really talk about text tech last year, and even though
46:02
Speaker 1: they were one of the best teams in the country.
46:04
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say about David Bailey weekend week out?
46:06
Speaker 1: What are you talking quarterbacks? The offenses? I talked more
46:11
Speaker 1: text to tech when they like Patrick Mahomes and Cliff Kingsbury.
46:16
Speaker 1: But speaking of Cliff Kingsbury. This guy sent me this
46:21
Speaker 1: screenshot the Cardinals with Kyler and without Kyler. With Kyler
46:25
Speaker 1: they were thirty eight forty eight and one. Without him,
46:28
Speaker 1: they were five and twenty five. Sam Donald with the Jets.
46:35
Speaker 1: That's a bad example. I mean, Kyler was a way
46:37
Speaker 1: better player than Sam Donald was with the Jets. They
46:40
Speaker 1: were bad with Sam and without him. I know you're
46:43
Speaker 1: betting against Minnesota this year. However, all that I hear
46:46
Speaker 1: in the sports media when making a case against Kyler
46:49
Speaker 1: is that his record with them was terrible. But I've
46:52
Speaker 1: never heard anyone say it with context, that being their
46:55
Speaker 1: record when he was playing was significantly worse. If Kyler
46:58
Speaker 1: stays healthy, do you think it's real the Vikings win
47:01
Speaker 1: less than eight games. I'm not the Cardinals lose all
47:07
Speaker 1: the time. They've lost my entire life beside a couple
47:09
Speaker 1: of years. My issue more with him as an individual
47:12
Speaker 1: player and the way that Kevin O'Connell has played with
47:16
Speaker 1: Cousins and Sam Darnold and Kyler's style and you know,
47:21
Speaker 1: physically he's kind of diminished over the years. Kyler can
47:25
Speaker 1: have games and series and halves where he looks like
47:28
Speaker 1: a fucking All Star and he can dominate. I remember
47:30
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago against the Eagles and the Raiders,
47:33
Speaker 1: he had an incredible comeback. He's had moments where he's
47:36
Speaker 1: just like cheese. He looks like Lamar Jackson. I just
47:39
Speaker 1: don't know if over the course of the season he's
47:41
Speaker 1: gonna be able to drop back thirty forty times a
47:43
Speaker 1: game and just sling that pill. I don't know. That's
47:49
Speaker 1: Is he good enough? That's my question? Is he good enough?
47:53
Speaker 1: And defensively, like, are they gonna be as good? Their
47:57
Speaker 1: coach is good flores but like they just got rid
47:59
Speaker 1: of Gerard who over the course of Floresa's time there,
48:03
Speaker 1: you know, back to back years where we had twelve
48:05
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. So I hear what you're saying.
48:11
Speaker 1: Kyler's a big wild card. I will give him this
48:14
Speaker 1: part of and I'm sure I'm biased on this is
48:16
Speaker 1: I just didn't take him that seriously. I just don't
48:19
Speaker 1: take people that in sports they're really immature who aren't
48:24
Speaker 1: good enough to be that way and think they're like
48:27
Speaker 1: it comes easy, because it doesn't. And the way he's
48:31
Speaker 1: talking now feels like he's a lot different guy. So
48:36
Speaker 1: if he's dramatically matured. Maybe Kevin can coach around some
48:40
Speaker 1: of his deficiencies. But part of Kyler too early on
48:47
Speaker 1: some of these injuries was he could scoot around. That's
48:51
Speaker 1: the thing with Lamar. Like Lamar five years ago is
48:53
Speaker 1: like couldn't touch him. Then last year it's like, well,
48:56
Speaker 1: is he kind of injured or is he just slowing
48:58
Speaker 1: down a little bit. It's hard to kind of maintain
49:00
Speaker 1: your speed when you're that fast. Terry rose Year took
49:17
Speaker 1: a seventy thousand dollars payment to bet and leave a game.
49:23
Speaker 1: His career earnings are over one hundred and sixty million dollars.
49:28
Speaker 1: I saw that. If it's just purely I'm paying you
49:33
Speaker 1: seventy K, I saw one hundred K. But regardless, and
49:36
Speaker 1: you're making twenty five million dollars a year, you're the
49:40
Speaker 1: biggest idiot of all time. Now, if I have dirt
49:43
Speaker 1: on you and I'm black bailing you and you don't
49:45
Speaker 1: have a choice, you know, I I don't understand it.
49:50
Speaker 1: But like if you told me that was the reasoning
49:52
Speaker 1: and be like okay, because it makes no sense. You
49:56
Speaker 1: make way more than one hundred K a game, So
49:59
Speaker 1: in what world it's why It's like it's hard to
50:01
Speaker 1: buy the players now, why because they're all multimillionaires. Who
50:04
Speaker 1: do you buy referees? You know, it's like in college
50:07
Speaker 1: who could you buy it? Back in the day the
50:09
Speaker 1: players and weren't making any money. How could I buy
50:13
Speaker 1: a quarterback or a star college basketball player if they're
50:17
Speaker 1: making money? If you see most of these scandals now
50:20
Speaker 1: beside you know Indiana and Indiana was terrible. But when
50:23
Speaker 1: you see some basketball scandals, usually at a small school,
50:27
Speaker 1: I can't buy a guy Kentucky, congrats on the kid.
50:33
Speaker 1: I'm currently expecting number four in the Winner. Do you
50:37
Speaker 1: think that Buffalo actually wanted Brady or was it the
50:40
Speaker 1: best of a bad situation. I know Josh probably advocated,
50:44
Speaker 1: but I can't help but think they made a change
50:50
Speaker 1: just to make a change. Second question, my birthday was Saturday,
50:56
Speaker 1: and I want to know where I can get one
50:58
Speaker 1: of those sweet three and out hats or helmets. Maybe
51:04
Speaker 1: that gets some made This was you know, the volume
51:08
Speaker 1: made one and just sent it to me. So I
51:11
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we should give some of those away during
51:13
Speaker 1: the season or something. I gotta look into that. That's
51:16
Speaker 1: a good idea. I don't I didn't do it on
51:20
Speaker 1: your first question, I do think the owner overreacted a
51:23
Speaker 1: little bit to going in that locker room and they
51:25
Speaker 1: were all crying. You know, I think it was pretty clear.
51:28
Speaker 1: Let's use Sean mcgermo and John Harbaugh. It was clear
51:31
Speaker 1: Steve Bushatti was over it and he was getting fired.
51:35
Speaker 1: I don't think they went into the playoffs thinking Sean
51:38
Speaker 1: mcdermomy was gonna get fired. But I think the way
51:40
Speaker 1: they lost that game, then the owners walking around the
51:42
Speaker 1: locker room star players in tears, he gets he just
51:46
Speaker 1: kind of gets worked up and makes a decision. Well,
51:49
Speaker 1: once you fire the guy, and this happened with the Ravens,
51:52
Speaker 1: it happened with a lot of teams. It's like, you
51:55
Speaker 1: got to interview some people, so you don't. You just
51:58
Speaker 1: interview as many people as you can. And he got
52:00
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, so you're interviewing from Philip Rivers to you
52:04
Speaker 1: name it, and you felt the most comfortable with him.
52:08
Speaker 1: I think I saw Brandon Bean say that they were
52:12
Speaker 1: blown away even though they had spent a lot of
52:14
Speaker 1: time with Joe Brady when they actually interviewed him talking
52:17
Speaker 1: about some of the bigger picture stuff. I'm not trying
52:21
Speaker 1: to be biased here, because when I met him briefly
52:24
Speaker 1: at the Combine and I went up to him and
52:26
Speaker 1: I told this story back then, and I just told him,
52:29
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know me from Adam. I just went
52:33
Speaker 1: up to him in the JW. Marriott at the bar
52:34
Speaker 1: wherever people were drinking, and you know, you kind of
52:36
Speaker 1: walk to your room and you kind of go back
52:38
Speaker 1: and forth between these two bar areas. He handled this
52:41
Speaker 1: press conference in the Sean McDermott situation as well as
52:46
Speaker 1: humanly possible, because he went above and beyond not only
52:49
Speaker 1: thanking him, but just saying like how that guy changed
52:52
Speaker 1: his career, And that was a pretty difficult spot to
52:57
Speaker 1: be in for a first time head coach. This guy
53:01
Speaker 1: had kind of thrown you a lifeline when your career
53:04
Speaker 1: was in shambles after Carolina and then elevated. And then
53:07
Speaker 1: you're I mean, Joe Brady's not the head coach of
53:09
Speaker 1: the Bills if it's not for John McDermott. So I'm
53:13
Speaker 1: buying right, he's bigger than it. Thinking person two, I
53:18
Speaker 1: think Joe Brady's gonna be good. I hope everything's going well,
53:22
Speaker 1: baby Jack. Well, that depends on the day. Everyone with
53:27
Speaker 1: the microphone seems to be picking the Giants to double
53:29
Speaker 1: their win total and to basically be a playoff team.
53:32
Speaker 1: To me, that seems a bit optimistic. My question, what
53:35
Speaker 1: would be a reasonable expectation for the Giants. The Vegas
53:39
Speaker 1: over under is somewhere around seven to eight wins. Let's
53:44
Speaker 1: just look at their division, if all the quarterbacks are healthy.
53:48
Speaker 1: Their quarterback has by far the most question marks because
53:52
Speaker 1: even Jalen can be weird. They can win games easily
53:55
Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts because they can run the shout of
53:57
Speaker 1: the ball. He can make enough place even when he's
53:59
Speaker 1: playing bad. And their defense is a big time Dak
54:02
Speaker 1: Prescott's pretty well established, prett damn good player, and we
54:05
Speaker 1: saw Jaydon Daniels as a rookie dominate b way. We've
54:08
Speaker 1: seen Jaydon Daniels be dramatically better than Jackson Dark. Now
54:13
Speaker 1: they have some high end defensive players, but like, who's
54:17
Speaker 1: stopping the run? That to me is a big quin.
54:20
Speaker 1: They've signed some defensive tackles post draft, but like, can
54:23
Speaker 1: you run on them? Because I know last year the
54:25
Speaker 1: Cowboys show they can run the ball. Eagle's definitely gonna
54:28
Speaker 1: try to run the ball. I would imagine the Commanders
54:32
Speaker 1: want to run the ball, those big kind of butting
54:34
Speaker 1: heads with Cliff Kingsbury, who just wants to pass every play.
54:38
Speaker 1: I would say their roster in theory should be better
54:41
Speaker 1: in the Commanders definitely not better than the Eagles, and
54:44
Speaker 1: I don't think he's better than the Cowboys at this point,
54:47
Speaker 1: so I might go I might actually pick the Cowboys
54:52
Speaker 1: to win the division. But to me, it's Dallas or
54:53
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I think Dallas is so dramatically improved on defense,
54:58
Speaker 1: and Caleb down to the type guy that like immediate
55:02
Speaker 1: impact rookie. So I I think best case they win ten,
55:10
Speaker 1: I think improvement. If they are winning seven or eight,
55:12
Speaker 1: but it looks like they're going in the right direction,
55:14
Speaker 1: you'd be pretty fired up. Anything under eight would probably
55:17
Speaker 1: feel like a disappointment because if you're winning eight, you're
55:19
Speaker 1: probably in the mix down the stretch of the season,
55:22
Speaker 1: which is all that matters. I mean, they haven't even
55:24
Speaker 1: had a chance last couple of years. The other big
55:29
Speaker 1: curve are variable for them is Milik Neighbors Because if
55:33
Speaker 1: you told me Milik Neighbors was just one hundercent healthy,
55:36
Speaker 1: I'm like their offense could be that's not an ideal situation.
55:42
Speaker 1: Major knee injury, kneed, second surgery. They're kind of being
55:46
Speaker 1: cloak and dagger, you know, we think week one he's
55:50
Speaker 1: a guy that is explosion physicality, kind of scary, which
55:55
Speaker 1: sucks because he's as talented as anyone in the NFL
56:00
Speaker 1: when he's right. Wondering if I could ask you advice
56:03
Speaker 1: slash opinion. Flying into Phoenix from UK in December for
56:08
Speaker 1: a week or so on with my uncle in the barrier,
56:11
Speaker 1: big golf fan is TPC Scottsdale worth a visit. Won't
56:15
Speaker 1: get time to play, but wondered at the clubhouse Pro
56:18
Speaker 1: Shop would be nice to visit. Just got back from
56:21
Speaker 1: South Carolina and went to the RBC Heritage for eighteen
56:24
Speaker 1: and lunch. Well worth the visit. I would say it'd
56:27
Speaker 1: be worth the visit. There's a restaurant in there that's
56:30
Speaker 1: like partnered with a hotel chain restaurants hit or miss,
56:34
Speaker 1: but that by December they will have a lot of
56:37
Speaker 1: waste management slack. The pro Shop's legit. There's a lot
56:40
Speaker 1: of stuff in the Pro Shop. If you were going
56:42
Speaker 1: to eat at a restaurant that overlooked a golf course,
56:46
Speaker 1: by then It does overlook the eighteenth Toll, which is
56:48
Speaker 1: pretty cool, and all the stuff will be up. You
56:50
Speaker 1: could go to Kierland there's a bar slash restaurant that
56:54
Speaker 1: kind of overlooks the golf course. That's pretty cool. Yeah.
56:59
Speaker 1: For coming to North Scott's, I think you can go wrong.
57:01
Speaker 1: I can't compare it to the Harbor Town, but it's not.
57:06
Speaker 1: It's not the most memorable clubhouse. I wouldn't say. But
57:10
Speaker 1: if you got you're there for a week, swing by,
57:13
Speaker 1: get lunch, have a midday. Bruskie was listening to the
57:18
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh question the other day. My spin on the
57:20
Speaker 1: question would be, if the Chargers have a repeat of
57:22
Speaker 1: the last two years tennis wins embarrassing playoff loss, who
57:26
Speaker 1: do you think takes more heat or blame. Would the
57:28
Speaker 1: media or fans say Harbaugh's lost as fastball as a coach,
57:31
Speaker 1: or would they blame it on Herbert Curious whether they
57:34
Speaker 1: side with the quarterback talent or the coach's track record.
57:37
Speaker 1: You have to understand, this is the Chargers, so they're
57:40
Speaker 1: not treated like the Eagles. This is not you know,
57:43
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon, the forty nine Ers. This is not gonna
57:46
Speaker 1: be the fucking Dallas Cowboys. They're not really a huge
57:50
Speaker 1: national talking point. They're just not. The other thing is,
57:56
Speaker 1: you know, the ownership group gets a lot of credit
57:58
Speaker 1: for moving them to LA. He pays dollars in rent,
58:01
Speaker 1: so building this huge practicability, It's like, yeah, Dean's at
58:04
Speaker 1: least you can do. You don't have to pay for shit.
58:06
Speaker 1: I saw this in an athletic article and we've mentioned
58:11
Speaker 1: this on the podcast. Is I think they're second to
58:15
Speaker 1: the last this upcoming season in cash spent. So if
58:18
Speaker 1: you go to contracts NFL cash so teams salary total cash,
58:27
Speaker 1: the Chargers are clearly are currently thirtieth. They're spending two
58:31
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two million dollars. To put that into perspective,
58:36
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans this year will spend three hundred and
58:38
Speaker 1: seventy eight, the Pittsburgh Steelers three hundred and seventy, the
58:42
Speaker 1: Ravens three hundred and seventy, the Chiefs three hundred and
58:44
Speaker 1: sixty five, the Broncos three hundred and sixty six, the
58:48
Speaker 1: Bills three hundred and sixty. So teams in the AFC
58:53
Speaker 1: that are all playoff teams are spending eighty million dollars
58:58
Speaker 1: more than players. So you can get mad at Herbert
59:01
Speaker 1: who has not played well in the playoffs. You can
59:03
Speaker 1: get mad at Jim who's never won a Super Bowl.
59:06
Speaker 1: We talk about this a lot. It starts at the top.
59:09
Speaker 1: They don't spend as much cash as some of these
59:11
Speaker 1: other teams. They just don't. Frugality is a disease when
59:15
Speaker 1: you're rich. It really is, totally get it. If you
59:18
Speaker 1: don't have any money, you gotta pinch pennies called life.
59:22
Speaker 1: We've all been there, hopefully less time than needed. But
59:28
Speaker 1: you can get out as quickly as possible because not
59:31
Speaker 1: having money when you get especially, I can't imagine this
59:34
Speaker 1: time when rents are through the roof, foods expensive shit
59:37
Speaker 1: these last five years. I mean, homes are outrageous. But
59:42
Speaker 1: if you're owning an NFL team and you have hundreds
59:45
Speaker 1: of millions and you pay nothing for the stadium and
59:49
Speaker 1: you have a star coach, it's like, wow, they're paying
59:51
Speaker 1: a lot now for coaches. Well they never did. They
59:54
Speaker 1: were always like right there with Mike Brown, they paid
59:58
Speaker 1: nothing for coaches. Jerry's same way. It doesn't pay big
1:00:00
Speaker 1: money for coaches. Mike McCarthy was probably making I bet McVeigh, Shanahan, Tomlin, Andy.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: Those guys were double and tripling his salary. Remember he
1:00:13
Speaker 1: was making seven million dollars a year, which is an
1:00:15
Speaker 1: incredible amount of money in Dallas. But these other guys
1:00:18
Speaker 1: are making fifteen to twenty. Tom was making twenty five.
1:00:24
Speaker 1: So if you if you're gonna get well, they're paying
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Speaker 1: a lot for coaches, now, well, yeah they should. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the NFL. Welcome to football your coaches last time
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Speaker 1: I checked. Kind of important. But how about this? How
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Speaker 1: about we buy some players? You know, and historically they've
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Speaker 1: always had kind of knockdown, drag out contract negotiations. I
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Speaker 1: remember being young with some of their core teams. A
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Speaker 1: mail bag. Do you feel a division winner parlay of
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Speaker 1: the Bills, Cowboys, Saints, Bengals, Chargers is a good bet.
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Speaker 1: I actually plugged this bad boy in. It was like
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Speaker 1: twenty five dollars on this parlay would pay close to
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Speaker 1: forty five hundred dollars. I do think the charge Like
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Speaker 1: the Bills, I'm pretty confident they're gonna win it. I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty confident the Bengals are gonna win it too. The Saints.
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Speaker 1: That division get weird, but I like that bet. A lot.
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Speaker 1: Cowboys a little bit of a flyer, right. I think
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Speaker 1: the safe bet would be the Eagles. The kind of
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Speaker 1: curveball would probably be the Giants. But I think the
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Speaker 1: Cowboys are very live to win that division. Especially their
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Speaker 1: defense dramatically improves and they stole the defensive coordinated from
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Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Chargers, I liked them until I looked
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Speaker 1: at the schedule, all the schedules for those teams that
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Speaker 1: are hard that division. Right, Denver won it last year, clearly,
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Speaker 1: but I think the Chiefs are gonna be back in
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Speaker 1: the mix. That could probably go three different ways. I
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Speaker 1: think you could change it in I did for you
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Speaker 1: from the Chargers to the Texans, and it twenty five
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Speaker 1: dollars pays like thirty four hundred dollars. But I like
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Speaker 1: the Texans there more than the Chargers, just because I
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Speaker 1: mean Sean Payton, Andy Reid, like, is anyone gonna be
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Speaker 1: shocked if the Broncos win it again? Is anyone to
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Speaker 1: be shocked if the Chiefs are good this year, if
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Speaker 1: my home's healthy. So it's just in. The Chargers historically
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Speaker 1: just kind of let you down. So I would probably
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Speaker 1: remove the Chargers there for the Texans if you wanted
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Speaker 1: to go higher units, little less return. I think of Bills, Bengals, Saints, Texans.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I'm gonna have to keep that up
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Speaker 1: here in the mental rolodex and play that one later on.
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Speaker 1: Have a great day, see you tomorrow. Fugazi Friday, The
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