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One Piece, 391 & 392 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  This is an Unspoiled Network podcast. This is spoil Me, covering one piece
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  episodes three ninety one and three ninety two Tyranny, the Rulers of Sebodie,
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  the Celestial Dragons, Sabiote, Saboti not Sure, and new Rivals Gather the
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  eleven super Novas. In these episodes, Wow, this is really upsetting you
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  guys. The slavery thing is a who knew what a Bobbers slavery is?
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  Really me out. We also get an intro to a lot of new players
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  and I am pretty stoked about all these guys. Welcome to spoil Me.
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  Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you very much to
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  Florian for commissioning this episode. Florian is here in the chat. What's up
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  Florian the Hose. We've got a bunch of people here today though, thank
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  you guys for joining me. So you know this, uh, this pair
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  of episodes, it's a real roller coaster in terms of the vibe. Like
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  we start off with this whimsical bubble bicycles and amusement parks, and like you
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  know, there's it's just a feeling of wonder and childlike excitement and I'm here
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  for it, and then it really is left abruptly in a way that like
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  I don't know what exactly it is that gets me so bad about this scene
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  with the dude who has the collar on him. I think it's like how
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  huge and threatening he seems for just a moment and then abruptly he becomes this
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  like like desperate, sad creature, you know. But the whole there's been
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  plot lines about people who are being held unjustly and whatnot, and none of
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  them really and I don't mean like in this show, I mean like in
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  general there I have seen a lot of stuff where you have like clearly what's
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  happening is is wrong and evil, and as much as you can understand that,
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  it doesn't like necessarily get to you. And I know this is going
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  to be like a real controversial thing to say. So Saraphim is in the
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  chat good luck. No one agrees on how to pronounce this place name.
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  It's an English transliteration of a pun based on the Japanese transliteration of the Portuguese
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  word for soap. Wow. Well they should have called it soap putty instead
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  for the English translation. But what I was going to say that I think
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  is like kind of a controversial take, So y'all know about the whole the
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  I don't want to call it scandal that feels too extreme. But Amazon had
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  the Rings of Power series that was like the most expensive television show ever produced,
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  and it just didn't do super well. And I will tell you guys
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  the truth here. I didn't like hate it, but I only watched I
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  think two maybe three episodes and literally forgot about it. That's like where I
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  never felt truly invested in any of it. I just didn't. And it's
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  such a difficult thing to pinpoint why that is and why it like why it
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  works sometimes. But there's like a whole storyline in that where elves are being
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  enslaved and this is that's a really good example of one where I'm looking at
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  it and I'm like, I know this is wrong, and I know that
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  we need to fight for our freedoms and YadA, YadA, YadA, and
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  yet I'm just not particularly hype about getting these people free in a way that
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  feels like visceral. I'm just sort of like, well, I know they're
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  gonna get at of there's just a sense of distance, do you know what
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  I'm saying? And This was so much more upsetting, and I think that
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  part of it is the fact that this guy has succeeded in getting away to
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  a point, so it comes upon you in a very surprising way. If
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  you are zeroing in on the minds or wherever it is that the elves are
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  and everybody is in shackles, you know what you're getting, and you're kind
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  of mentally preparing yourself for oh, okay, we're about to go into a
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  real bummer scenario here, right. But there's also an aspect of it being
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  just like so overdone. This everybody is just like chilling and shopping, and
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  this woman runs into a guy and he grabs her, and it really feels
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  like he's doing the whole like, how dare you? You know? There's
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  a lot of that, honestly, Like in these in this arc so far,
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  the I accidentally walked into somebody is has been used like a several times
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  now, and I don't know if I don't remember this being such a big
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  thing in other episodes, but I feel like we've had this come up many
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  many times already. But this just, you know, you think that you
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  get what's going on, and then all of a sudden he's begging her to
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  get this off him, and then starts just begging everybody for help. And
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  then we've got the whole the attitude of the people surrounding him. And I
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  think this is also part of what like really hammers at home. Nobody wants
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  to look at him, Nobody wants to step forward and help, nobody feels
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  that they can do anything, and nobody likes this. You don't get an
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  impress Russian that the people of this town looked down on the slaves in the
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  way that one would expect. You know, there's not a real sense of
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  like we are first class citizens and they are barely people. It's more a
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  feeling to me, at least of there but for the grace of God go
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  I you know. And I don't know if that's like actually true. It
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  seems like if you are a resident here that probably you aren't allowed to be
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  taken as a slave, I would guess. But also the way that these
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  fucking quote dragons work and we'll I'll talk about them in a minute, I
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  don't know that that's true. It seems like they could just kind of do
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  whatever they fucking feel like. And I'm not really certain whether like the townspeople
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  are safe either the natives. Sorry, there's a lot of people in the
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  chat here. I also says, oh, because you're talking about brings a
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  power because only two of the five plot lines were interesting. Fair, Yes,
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  Sarah fam Yes, let's make our main character a young, impulsive hothead,
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  ignoring that she is literally older than the sun. I honestly like you
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  say this, and I'm I want to be like, yeah, I know
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  right, I don't remember. I just genuinely don't remember so much of that
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  show. It was beautiful. I would love to make many scenes from the
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  show my desktop background. But do I remember like anyone's name, even other
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  than Galatril? Like literally not a soul? And Kyle says, I think
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  how cartoony and lighthearted when piece makes the hard turn into dark and realistic evil,
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  all the more jarring. That's true, and Sarah from says agree.
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  The contrast between the idyllic vacation paradise, where the stuff goes on out in
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  the open but is only quietly ignored, really makes it harder. Yeah,
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  Kyle says, there are criticisms to make of Oda storytelling, but it's clear
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  he has things he wants to talk about. And the guts to actually talk
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  about them, so really quick I'm going to do you know what. Actually,
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  I take it back, not really quick. I'm not going to do
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  that. I am going to start at the fucking start of these two episodes
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  because I'm getting way way ahead of myself here as I am want to do.
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  But we start things off with all of our friends like deciding exactly where
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  they're going to, how they're going to split up, and what they're going
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  to do. So Sanji gets talked into staying to guard all of the treasure
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  by Nami because she just drops some very heavy hints and he is a slave
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  to love, as he puts it. We have Zoro running off and they
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  all try to stop him and be like, dude, what are you doing.
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  You're gonna get lost, you know you are. And Zara's pretty mad
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  at the insinuation that he could get lost, which is just sir. I
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  am so sorry, but we have empirical evidence here, and you're going to
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  need to acknowledge that, like, are you also an anti vaxer because I
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  just genuinely have no interest in listening to anybody who is denying the facts.
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  And you have been lost every time you've gone off by yourself. It has
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  never not happened. So and he makes an argument that because all the trees
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  are numbered, it's impossible to get lost, and they kind of give him
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  that one, and they're like, oh, okay, I guess he's thought
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  this through more than I thought. But then he looks at one of the
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  trees and just like, okay, I know which tree to go to,
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  and it's forty one, but there's a bubble over it. So he says
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  that it is one and walks away, feeling very smug about how what do
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  they think? I don't know how to count, and I have like a
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  couple of questions about how this whole numbers thing works, but it's super not
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  important, so I'm gonna wait to like even ask it. We're gonna focus,
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  Okay, we're really going to do it. So this is when Hatchie
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  is explaining about the celestial dragons. They wear masks to avoid breathing the same
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  air as us no matter what they do, promise to stay away and lufy
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  very cavalierly I will say, just goes uh huh, And I'm like,
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  oh boy, he is not listening. There are a couple of other things
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  you should probably keep an eye out for. This is the place everyone gathers
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  before heading to the New World. In other words, like you, there's
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  a lot of big name pirate crews around, which means marines and bounty hunters
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  are out to catch them. Also, the law won't protect it's from being
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  bought and sold. Here, kidnapping happens all the time, so try not
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  to stand out. If people realize how much you're worth, you're worth the
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  whole island will be on you and you'll never get your ship coated. Also,
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  we're right by navy headquarters, so the marines here are nobody to fuck
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  with, and we've also got some pretty intense bounty hunters. Everything is a
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  little bit higher stakes than where you've been. Once again, Lufy, we're
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  gonna be just fine. And Hanshi has this like mark on his head that
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  he's covered with a bandage, and when Lufy asks what that's about, he
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  says, don't worry about it, which I'm gonna say, I am worried
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  about it. Hanchi, what's going on, Brah, what are you doing?
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  And he says, Cammy isn't a mermaid and I'm not a fishman By
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  the way, not while we're here, just tend we're humans like you.
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  And I just want to say, I know this world has produced some weird
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  looking humans, so I'm not trying to say they can't pass Hatchie off as
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  a human, but I am saying that it feels like they're going to have
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  to explain his face somehow, and they really all should get some kind of
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  story going that they can agree on, you know. So this is the
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  point where Robin glances up and notices that that Camy. I always want to
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  call her Cammy, and I know that it's not. You don't say it
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  like that, and I keep forgetting how you actually say it. I'm sorry,
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  guys, I'm gonna call her Cammy though, like I'm just because that's
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  how it's spelled. I feel like it's Cami, Camy. It's Camy,
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  right, I feel like I remember one of you telling me that it was
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  pronounced with like a kay sound. All right, I'm gonna go Kami and
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  really fingers crossed here on this. But the like vibe that she's giving off
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  is not carefree. All the girls are sort of like, oh, we're
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  gonna go to the mall and shop, except for her and she doesn't want
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  to be separated, which they're sort of like, that's weird that she didn't
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  come. But I'm like, if she's trying to pretend that she's human,
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  she can't walk around like that's very obviously what's happening here. But they are
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  not filling in our friends about why they are pretending to be human. And
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  I didn't really understand why not when it's clearly like they'd be worth money to
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  sell, because we already know that mermaids are worth a lot of money,
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  and we've already heard the other guys, the other pirates like, talking about
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  selling her. So I don't know, it's just a it doesn't feel like
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  something that we need you keep under our hat unless there's like another aspect to
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  it. I don't know. Maybe they're in particular they are wanted people,
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  you know. So this is the point when Lufy like is able to climb
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  up inside one of the soap bubbles and a dude on the side of the
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  road basically he's got like a little a little structure that he's selling out of
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  a stall, I guess, and he hands in this thing and is like,
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  bring this in there with you as long as you can reach the pedals,
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  you can drive it around all over the place, and it is honestly
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  the coolest thing, you guys. This is straight up my favorite mode of
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  transport that I have ever seen. Period, end of story. It's a
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  giant bubble. You've got your little It's like a recumbent bike. You're not
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  on top of the petals like you are leaning back in this seat. It
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  looks somewhat comfortable, and when you pedal, it just like creates the spin
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  behind you to push the bubble around. And I am obsessed with it,
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  obsessed with it. So at this point, he's talking to them about the
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  prices, and he's saying, those are the best way to get around.
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  We rent them for five hundred berries, but you can buy your own for
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  ten thousand, and Hotchie is like, no, no, no, we're
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  just gonna rent one, and Lufy gets in a pretty big argument with him
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  about how I have my own money and I don't. You don't tell me
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  what to do with my money. If I want to buy one, I'm
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  a fucking buy one. And I was immediately on Lufy's side, even though
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  I knew better, because Hotchie's whole energy is giving I don't want to do
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  this right now, but trust me, there's like reasons and I was like,
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  but I want it so cool. Well, what it turns out is
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  that the type of atmosphere that this island has really unusual. So it is
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  the only place other than Fishman Island where you can even use one of these
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  bikes. As soon as you get far enough away from here, it will
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  pop and be useless. And it turns out this is like a really common
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  grift that trying to sell them to people who think that they could just do
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  this forever. It's I mean, it would be too you know, and
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  that is so incredibly shady. So Lufy gets pretty pissed off as he's like
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  realizing exactly what that guy was trying to pull. I don't blame him.
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  So I'm realizing, like our starfish friend, is he worth any money?
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  Because they aren't hiding what he is. I'm just you know now that we're
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  being kind of paranoid about this. He's just down in the open. It
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  seems like, I don't know whether that's something we need to worry about at
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  all. We have a stall that's selling these like Grand Line cookies. These
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  are steamed buttons. That's that's what it is, grammin for short. And
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  they are meant to be like souvenirs that you take home because they last for
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  a long time. They are shelf stable for yeah, three months. But
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  none of them are actually paying attention to the like souvenir aspect, and they
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  are just swallowing entire platefuls of samples. And honestly, if I were the
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  guy, I would have straight up just taken those plates away from them.
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  Nobody buys any you said, anybody in the audience. Have any of you
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  ever worked as a sample giver at any establishment? This was my job when
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  I worked for Whole Foods. I was with the marketing department after I moved
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  out of the grocery department, and I was supposed to make these displays at
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  a table that I would roll out, and there would be like a monthly
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  or not monthly. It was like quarterly meeting where all of the people from
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  marketing from the Northeast would come to this one area and we would all sit
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  in conference for the whole day while different vendors would come in and show off
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  their new products, whether it was food or equipment of some kind that we
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  might sell various different things, and we would get the story behind the company
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  and how they were made, and then we would get a calendar of when
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  we were meant to go out and give these samples, and we would have
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  been prepped with all of this information about the company and how to promote the
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  product. And sometimes it was something that you would just give as is,
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  like cookies, or sometimes it was something that you would have to find a
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  recipe and make it and cook it on the floor in like an electric skillet
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  or something. And I really liked the job, and I was really good
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  at it on the days when I felt like giving a fuck, but I
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  didn't always feel like giving a fuck, And I really like it was startling
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  to me how thoughtless and selfish people were regarding samples. And I'm sure that
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  at other stores it would be even worse, because Whole Foods is like it's
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  so overpriced that a lot of the people who come in there have a real,
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  like high opinion of themselves and would be more restrained. I feel like,
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  then, say the crowd at Sam's Club, who You're at Sam's Club
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  because you're looking for bars, and that's what you're here for, so you're
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  going to try and get everything you can out of going, which is much
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  more my energy. And I'm sure a place like Sam's this is like child's
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  play to them, and they deal with us all the time. But the
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  number of people who would just come up and like dig their hands into a
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  bowl full of stuff that I am portioning out in front of them into little
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  containers, it was just so gross, Like I would have to throw whole
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  batches of things away because some asshole just reached over. And I would put
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  boxes on display to like create a barrier between customers and the bowl, and
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  they would just reach right the fuck over. They did not care, and
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  yeah, taking like all of the samples and just like dumping them into their
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  mouths one after the other. Or it was just this just was a moment
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  where I was like, oh my god, I hate these kinds of people.
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  So anyway, this is when we cut because like our friends have sort
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  of split up here and we've got Nami, Hatchie, Robin and Starfish looking
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  at all of these hotels which are made by just putting a metallic coating on
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  bubbles and like holding them in place. It's a really neat idea. So
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  we've got a ton of round, like perfectly spherical buildings. Oh you know
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  what I'm seeing now that Lufy walks away from that that I keep forgetting the
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  word for stall. Oh my god, he's walking away from it, and
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  he's got like tons of boxes under his arms. So I will say at
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  least he did buy some, because I forgot that he bought any and I
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  was just like, oh my christ, I would be so mad. Sarah
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  fam says all retail employees should be issued shock PRIs and given free Reintingis them
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  y'all? I yeah, I feel like everybody on earth should be forced to
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  work retail for like three years. One year isn't enough. Two years isn't
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  enough. You need three full years to truly appreciate the tedium, the demeaning
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  attitude of the employers, the customers, and just like how thankless it is.
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  It is. There's so many folks out there. You meet them and
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  you just know immediately you've never worked a job like this, have you?
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  You just haven't, I could fucking tell. So, yeah, everybody's caught.
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  Chopper has a little key chain and Brooke has a pennant that says like
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  grand line on it, and when HATCHI turns around. He's like, oh,
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  you guys have a lot the stuff. You should get those bubbled up.
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  And they're like, what do you mean? And then we cut to
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  Lufy holding the string on what looks like a balloon and all of his like
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  items have been packed into a bubble so that he doesn't have to hold them
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  in his hands. Can I just say that, like, I loved Scypia,
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  but this bubble thing the answer to all our problems and I want to
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  live here except for the slavery? Can we? If we just I will
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  stay in my side of the archipelago and not archipelago whatever you get it.
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  I'm just gonna never say any words again. Guys. I'm bad at it,
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  but I love all Like the making of the buildings. That was a
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  really particular moment for me of just like what and now you just have a
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  structure like there's I want to spend so much more time here, you know,
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  I And by spend more time here, I mean like I know we're
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  going to have an arc here, but I mean spend more time here in
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  the touristy way that we're doing currently, not in the fighting way, because
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  the touristy way is where you get to see some of the neat stuff that's
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  been created and also just like appreciate the downtime and getting to see all of
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  the other things that the islands got going on. So yeah, we have
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  a little interstitial there, and then we jump back to Oh my god,
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  I forgot about this. They have like Hatchie who's riding one of his bubble
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  bikes and it's a weird thing, guys, because like movie's inside of his
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  bubble, so he is sort of it's almost like he's in a pod,
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  you know. But the way that Hot Cheese is set up is the bubble
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  is like underneath him and the bike is like kind of put over the top
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  of it. So Brooke and Chopper and Kami are all sitting kind of on
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  the bubble itself. They're not sitting on the bike, and it just isn't
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  as cool. I but the way that Lufy's is where he's inside it,
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  that's the only way I really prefer that. So this is the moment where
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  we get the kid running into this guy and it was so so upsetting.
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  So this dude, he has his hair that's divided into two. I want
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  to call them ponytails, but that doesn't feel adequate to what these look like.
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  And he has an extremely heavy eyeliner. It's giving Maria. Honestly,
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  the two ponytails, it's like the elastics are way down on the base excuse
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  me, guys, not the base like near his head. I mean,
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  they're almost at the ends of the ponytail, but the hair is still like
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  shooting up and out the way that they do when you have the elastic near
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  your scalp. And he has this like outfit with this huge pop collar and
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  everything, so I guess you get enslaved, but you don't get given like
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  a uniform. It just looks like he was wearing what he probably had been
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  wearing when he was a pirate. And he also has very pointed ears,
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  which I don't remember seeing on anybody else. And I don't know that that's
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  like important, but it just was very noteworthy. The whole way that he
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  is designed is like we're splitting everything in to two points in either direction,
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  you know. And this girl is like, please don't kill me, and
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  he takes her and he says, I give up. I don't want to
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  go to the New World anymore. I've got a wife and kid back home.
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  Please, somebody help me. My little boy I left when he was
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  just a baby. He doesn't even know what I look like. And for
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  a minute, I was just like, Yo, is this fucking is this
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  Usop's dad? I really did, guys. I had a moment. I
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  know it's not I'm pretty sure, but I did have a moment of just
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  like what's going on. So he's yelling for them to help and saying,
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  I just want to go home. That's all that matters to me, and
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  Hatschi is saying, we got to stay out of this. He's probably just
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  a pirate that got sold into slavery and he made a run for it,
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  but he has to know what happens to slaves when they try to get away.
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  And all of a sudden, he looks down at the collar, which
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  has started to tick, and it's very clear everybody is kind of understanding what's
• 29:03
  going on here, but it's starting to get faster and faster the way that
• 29:10
  the ticking is going, and he is yelling, damn it, damn it,
• 29:15
  get off me, and then all of a sudden it explodes, and
• 29:19
  it's a really awful moment. Now I am going to say this. I
• 29:25
  know the way that this show works, and so I did not expect him
• 29:30
  to die because of this. However, there is a point later where somebody
• 29:36
  shoots at him twice and then after that we're talking about how is he going
• 29:42
  to make it, and like he's still alive, and that did surprise me.
• 29:48
  I really sort of thought this is going to be a person who was
• 29:52
  used as an example. And I know that we don't kill like main characters
• 29:57
  or even really side characters, but I did think that once she took those
• 30:02
  two shots, I thought, now, yeah, we are getting at death,
• 30:06
  you know. And I truly was shocked when we start discussing like whether
• 30:11
  he survived or not. I was like, I thought it was understood that
• 30:15
  was a death sentence, that was it, you know. But anyway,
• 30:21
  this whole moment, it's just so sad. This guy is like in the
• 30:25
  middle of this cloud of smoke, just stumbling out of it and covered in
• 30:30
  blood, and he just says, help me, and Lofy is horrified,
• 30:34
  like, you know, so hot. She says, all the slaves get
• 30:38
  given a callar like that and if they try to take it off or run,
• 30:42
  it'll explode. And this just reminded me a lot of the parable of
• 30:52
  the Sower, I think, or is it parable of the Talents. I
• 30:55
  can't remember which one is the second one. I was commissioned to read those
• 31:00
  books, and I will tell you what, guys, that was probably the
• 31:03
  most difficult reading experience of my life because it was so on the nose for
• 31:11
  what we're going through as a country right now, and it was written like
• 31:14
  two decades ago. It's there was even a like racist president who was running
• 31:22
  under the banner of make America great again. I'm not kidding, and like
• 31:26
  chunks of the speeches that he gave were verbatim shit that Trump was saying.
• 31:33
  It was uncanny. So that in itself was already extremely disturbing and upsetting.
• 31:40
  But then in the second book, as things have like really continued to devolve,
• 31:48
  there grew the popularity of the use of collars like this one that you
• 31:56
  that could not be removed except by the people who held the keys. And
• 32:00
  they could, depending on the models that you bought, deliver shocks if you
• 32:07
  disobeyed, explode to kill you, or and this was the one that really
• 32:13
  fucked my head up. They could deliver a dose of a drug to make
• 32:21
  you feel good, and that would be the sort of thing that would get
• 32:28
  you to do things because you want another dose. Basically, they would string
• 32:35
  you out. And the idea of like being so utterly under somebody's control like
• 32:42
  that, it was so hopeless that I had nightmares about it, like it
• 32:47
  would the whole concept of it was just so so disturbing. So this like
• 32:54
  is given me shades of that. It's not as intense because those I mean,
• 32:59
  those books are there's a lot of rape, you know, and honestly
• 33:04
  it's written by a woman, and there's times where I'm like, Okay,
• 33:07
  this is egregious. Those books, it just felt like, no, this
• 33:09
  is what would happen, Like, of course, this is what would happen.
• 33:13
  This is just how it would go. So anyway, I just want
• 33:16
  to warn anybody because the titles of those books have been circling a lot due
• 33:22
  to the fact that they feel like more and more relevant, And while I
• 33:25
  totally get it and I understand people's curiosity and wanting to check them out due
• 33:29
  to that, I really want to warn y'all it is nothing to play with.
• 33:32
  Those books are extremely extremely upsetting, super super violent, super like there's
• 33:43
  just so much hopelessness, and even when people get out of certain situations,
• 33:46
  it's sort of like out of the frying pan into the fire kind of where
• 33:50
  it's like, is this actually better? And it just felt a little bit
• 33:54
  too much like the life a lot of us live. So anyway, this
• 34:00
  just reminded me of that, and so the whole vibe was it got to
• 34:05
  me. And at this point he collapses and Hocchi is having to really hold
• 34:15
  Loofy back and be like, dude, don't get involved, I'm for real,
• 34:20
  for real, And just as he's saying that, a dog with a
• 34:24
  little like bubble over his head strolls up and stops and peas on the fallen
• 34:32
  slave, and then here come the dragons. Now, I want to say,
• 34:44
  right off the bat, Hotchie said they wear masks so that they don't
• 34:49
  have to breathe the same air as us. I am going ahead and saying
• 34:53
  right now that is not why they wear these. There is some vulnerability to
• 34:59
  our air or something like it, and that like, oh, we don't
• 35:04
  breathe the same air as you because you're beneath us, is something they put
• 35:07
  forth to explain it so that nobody would understand what the actual like weakness they
• 35:15
  have is So that's just on the record, I'm saying that, and I
• 35:19
  have absolutely no doubts that's the facts. However, it is pretty wild because
• 35:24
  they're being called dragon celestial dragons, and to me, I'm like, does
• 35:29
  this mean they're aliens? Like, is that the thing that they can't survive
• 35:34
  in our atmosphere because they are aliens. There's a mention about the creators of
• 35:39
  the World Government and how they sort of came out of nowhere, and I'm
• 35:45
  sort of thinking, like, is this it is that what we're doing,
• 35:49
  that they're just like straight up from like another planet, you know. So
• 35:57
  I'm gonna describe the scene of these four people who walk up people being used
• 36:06
  somewhat loosely in certain spots. So we've got first on the right, a
• 36:16
  knight in armor, pretty traditional looking honestly, don't really see his face though.
• 36:23
  He's got a very pointy helm which looks very weird, and there's barely
• 36:28
  any space between it and the neckpiece of his armor, so I don't know
• 36:36
  if he is a servant or also a dragon or what I'm gonna go with
• 36:42
  also a dragon because of the shape of the armor being a little bit sass,
• 36:46
  and the shape of the outfits that the daughter and king. I don't
• 36:51
  know if it's king and princess actually I say that, but they may not
• 36:54
  be. But the daughter and father are each wearing outfits that I can only
• 37:02
  describe as like a cross between an astronaut suit and formal robes, like white
• 37:14
  robes. And when I say astronaut suit, I mean because they are white
• 37:20
  and they have long sleeves that close at the wrist and black gloves, so
• 37:24
  like none of their body is exposed to the air, which is part of
• 37:30
  what's making my little you know, suspicions go off here. They are fully
• 37:36
  protected from their the atmosphere, and he has this like the shape that they
• 37:44
  each have is like an apple standing on a couple of toothpicks. They are
• 37:53
  very top heavy and round. And I don't know if it's like the delivery
• 38:00
  system for whatever they breathe, or if it's that they have like actual wings
• 38:07
  or something under there, because it's unclear to me the dragon aspect of this,
• 38:12
  is that just what they call themselves or do they transform or is this
• 38:19
  them transformed? And I really have to address I know that I talk about
• 38:24
  cradle a lot, but because of what I come across in this show,
• 38:29
  it's just making certain things suddenly become clear. There are dragons that are very
• 38:36
  humanoid in the Cradle universe, and I am kind of thinking, oh,
• 38:40
  okay, I see it now, like this is probably part of where the
• 38:45
  inspiration for that came from, because, like I've said, he is a
• 38:47
  big fan. So yeah, And the robes sort of split at the knee,
• 38:53
  and then below you have like for her, it's a red, orange
• 39:00
  and yellow. For him it's blue, green and yellow. But it's like
• 39:06
  layers and it almost looks like fishtails the way that it's split. It reminds
• 39:12
  me of the mermaid tail that came he has, and just the look is
• 39:17
  very distinctive and strange. And then the King is dragging with him this beast
• 39:28
  and he is sort of in a perpetual squat and is like shuffling along with
• 39:35
  his legs really heavily bent. And I'm not sure if that is how he
• 39:38
  normally walks, or if this is like being forced on him for whatever reason.
• 39:45
  But this being is like I don't know if he is human or used
• 39:51
  to be human, or what the deal is he is wearing basically like boots
• 39:57
  up to the knee, black boots. He's got a dun colored jumpsuit and
• 40:05
  brown gloves, so most of him is also protected, but he doesn't have
• 40:09
  one of these bubbles over his head, and the gloves like buckle and the
• 40:15
  jumpsuit buckles. There's a lot of like buckles happening here. His head is
• 40:21
  basically a rectangle and he's just got two. It's like he's got sideburns that
• 40:30
  grow straight out from the side of his head instead of like down his face,
• 40:35
  and he has these symbols on his forehead that I am starting to be
• 40:40
  like, is this related to Hatchie? Like Hotchie's got something on his head
• 40:45
  that he's covering up. I'm like, is that a slave brand? Was
• 40:47
  he enslaved and then like got out of it somehow? Like what is that
• 40:52
  about? So the princess, when you get close up, she's also where
• 41:00
  wearing this like pair of glasses underneath the bubble and long heart shaped earrings,
• 41:07
  and the glasses have like it's unclear to me if it's like actual glasses or
• 41:13
  if it's a tattoo that sort of looks like it, but it's dots that
• 41:16
  like go over the bridge of her nose and up her cheeks like the way
• 41:20
  that the base of glasses do. And she is saying, another one of
• 41:24
  our slaves is broken down, and he says, did you give it it's
• 41:29
  daily sedative like you were supposed to? Of course I did, but it
• 41:32
  seemed it has no effect on this poor fool. I don't even want it
• 41:37
  anymore. Would you buy me a new one? And he is like,
• 41:43
  I don't want to get you another one. You're not good at taking care
• 41:45
  of them. And I have this whole like pirate captain collection, and you're
• 41:50
  fucking ruining it. And she says it was useless to begin with and starts
• 41:54
  kicking him. And this is what's really getting loof Be worked up, is
• 42:00
  that the way that she is kicking this dude who is utterly defenseless, he
• 42:08
  can't handle it. He's starting to turn purple, basically. And then all
• 42:13
  of a sudden, she's got a gun in her hand and she says,
• 42:17
  you make me want to vomit, and she pulls the trigger twice, and
• 42:22
  that's when Hatchie has to put a hand over Lufy's mouth and be like,
• 42:25
  you have got to control yourself, sir, and this dude is the as
• 42:32
  they like, turn and walk back. Her father is saying, what about
• 42:39
  a child for your next one, because she's like wanting a giant And when
• 42:45
  he says that, she says, oh, I hate the weak ones.
• 42:49
  So wow, Yeah, we're dealing with some real, real top quality charmers
• 42:57
  here for sure. Oh Gus says, I think it's implied that they're just
• 43:04
  humans who just think they're gods because they're the descendants of the founders of the
• 43:07
  world Government, or at least that's what I got from the conversation about them.
• 43:13
  Maybe, so when they call themselves celestial dragons, there's nothing actually dragon
• 43:19
  ish about them at all. All right, Well I don't believe it,
• 43:24
  but that's fine. So this is when a bunch of people like show up
• 43:31
  to carry this guy away, and Hatchi is like, yeah, we gotta
• 43:36
  get out of here, dude, let's move, and we go to a
• 43:39
  little like spot in the woods where everybody is trying to calm down. Brooke
• 43:45
  is pouring tea for everybody out of his little flask, and honestly, I
• 43:49
  just love him the most, you guys. I know that he's out here
• 43:52
  asking the color of panties and just that is a bummer. But yo,
• 43:59
  the fact yo, ha ha ha, the fact that he just is like,
• 44:02
  how about a nice cup of calming tea? And I was like,
• 44:05
  oh, that sounds so good. I could go for some too, to
• 44:07
  calm me down. Please, sir, thank you. And this is when
• 44:14
  Lufy says, do you think he'll be okay? And I was like,
• 44:17
  do I think he'll be He was shot twice, the collar exploded on his
• 44:24
  head. No, I don't think he's gonna be okay. But then Hachi
• 44:29
  says, even if he is, he'll go to prison for piracy, and
• 44:32
  I was like, oh, man, are we gonna like rescue this guy
• 44:36
  eventually, So we find out that if anybody hurts the Celestial Dragon, an
• 44:45
  admiral gets called and they send a fleet of ships to handle the situation.
• 44:52
  And it is if this is when, because up to this point we are
• 45:00
  not aware that they are related to the creators of the World Government. So
• 45:02
  you're just like what why? But yeah, this is when he says they
• 45:07
  are related to the bloodline of the creators of the World Government. Eight hundred
• 45:12
  years ago, a group of twenty kings came together to create an organization now
• 45:16
  known as the World Government. The Celestial Dragons are their descendants, and you
• 45:23
  get this like weird silhouette while this is the starfish talking while he's telling them
• 45:31
  the story of these figures standing with the bubbles over their heads, and they
• 45:40
  have heads shaped like what I can only describe as the pieces from Sorry,
• 45:51
  you know that board game where it's like it's almost like a bowling pin kind
• 45:57
  of shape, and it's giving not human to me. They just don't look
• 46:04
  like people. I don't know if this is meant to be their hair or
• 46:07
  what, but they have very pointy ears. Also, not sure if that's
• 46:12
  like part of it or it's just a stylized drawing. And yeah, the
• 46:17
  fact that it like the way he says eight hundred years ago a group of
• 46:22
  twenty kings came together to create the organization known as the World Government. Why
• 46:28
  do they all? What is this though? Is this part of it?
• 46:31
  This look that they all have. As the generations go by, they grow
• 46:37
  more and more reckless with power, and Lufy is just like, ah fuck,
• 46:45
  because you can really sense he wanted to start some shit and now he's
• 46:51
  having his parade raid on a little bit, which I'm glad that he that
• 46:55
  Hockey was Hatchie was able to hold him back at all, because I was
• 47:00
  sort of worried that he was gonna like lose hold of Loofy and then we
• 47:04
  were gonna have a whole scene. I really felt as if, you know,
• 47:08
  don't jump into this until you know what they are capable of, sir,
• 47:12
  because you have got to be aware of their tricks before you start some
• 47:17
  shit here. So they're in the midst of this combo and the camera pulls
• 47:23
  back and there's a bunch of dudes who are eyeballing lufy, and they have
• 47:31
  one of the posters wanted posters, and they're like, oh shit, there
• 47:37
  he is. Look at he's worth this many berries. And they come down
• 47:43
  on the group and are so not prepared, like they get laid out immediately,
• 47:50
  and a bunch of them later are talking with each other and going,
• 47:52
  wow, we got taken out instantly. We are no match for them.
• 47:59
  Maybe a guy that's that level, like is just somebody that we should stay
• 48:04
  away from. And they are all sort of like in concert, you know,
• 48:09
  yeah, you might be right, like we're not ready for this.
• 48:15
  But then one of them spots something with Kami and he's like, oh,
• 48:22
  hold up a second, I think maybe we could make some money after all,
• 48:27
  and they regroup and are going to make some more trouble. So as
• 48:35
  we're driving, Hatchie is explaining he's got a map of the archipelago and he
• 48:40
  is showing them the way that the setup for all of the different sections is
• 48:46
  and what they each contain. And I did find this sort of interesting.
• 48:52
  Grouped in clusters of ten, the borders aren't as clear cut in reality,
• 48:55
  of course, but we've got site seeing in souvenirs, we've got amusement parks.
• 49:02
  We've got it, says human shop, etc. Lawless area, hotels,
• 49:08
  etc. Government officials. And then the two ones in the middle aren't
• 49:15
  labeled. I'm looking at this right now ten and zero, so I don't
• 49:22
  know if that's mentioned, and I just missed it, but that's the way
• 49:27
  that it's being presented. Are the ones around the outside, And yeah,
• 49:31
  this, he says, the government area is the front door basically in the
• 49:37
  place that you want to avoid. Right now, we're in cluster twenty.
• 49:44
  Groves one through twenty nine are more or less known as the lawless area.
• 49:49
  That's why the place is crawling with so many bounty hunters, and I love
• 49:54
  Chopper being like, it would be super cool if you had told me before
• 49:59
  we came out here, and I would have had Zoro or Sangi come along
• 50:02
  instead because I am not capable. And I'm sort of thinking, yeah,
• 50:07
  you are, though, like I know that you don't have the same You
• 50:12
  can't do moves endlessly. You have your limited access, you know, because
• 50:16
  of the rumble balls and everything. But like Chopper, you can stand up
• 50:22
  for yourself, and I feel like you're not a liability at this point,
• 50:25
  you know. So it turns out the place that they're going is called Shocky's
• 50:32
  rip Off Bar, and Shocky, I think, is she like just living
• 50:38
  with or is this guy her brother? I can't remember this scenario here,
• 50:43
  but Shocky, it's so great, you guys. They the bar that she
• 50:47
  runs, They opened the door and she has this guy by the collar and
• 50:53
  is beating the hell out of him. And when she recognized this hot she
• 51:00
  is just like, oh, hey, Bud, just give me a second.
• 51:02
  I just let me finish getting this guy to pay me the money he
• 51:08
  doesn't owe me. This dude is fucked up too, like bleeding, and
• 51:22
  I love the fact the hot. She doesn't even acknowledge this. He's just
• 51:24
  like, yeah, go ahead, take your time. Oh my god.
• 51:28
  So Shocky is a complete delight. I just want to say, for the
• 51:37
  record, I feel like this is the most excited I have been about a
• 51:45
  new like human character. In a minute. Brooke is gonna beat her,
• 51:52
  but he's not human to me anymore. He used to be. Now he
• 51:55
  is supernatural. He is a walking skeleton. He has an unfair advantage because
• 52:00
  of that. But especially considering like the women in this show can be sort
• 52:07
  of nothing, I really really love her. She is basically a gangster and
• 52:15
  she has I think that it's the same like voice actress as the one who
• 52:20
  does Robin, but she's got a much smokier, sort of fem fatale voice
• 52:25
  going on for this character. And she is ready to roll with absolutely anything.
• 52:34
  She's just a real like game player, and there's a like kind of
• 52:38
  vibe to her that made me feel like she was from a pulp fiction type
• 52:45
  universe, like she was. She's a Tarantino character, is really what I
• 52:51
  kept thinking. You know, she's got this tiny, little like top on
• 52:55
  that's got a spider on the front, but then she's got this long sleep
• 53:00
  thing with weird frills that come out at the neck. It looked like it
• 53:02
  was gonna be a hoodie, but then not. She gives Chopper some counting
• 53:07
  candy and tells him it'll be just one hundred million berries or something, and
• 53:10
  Chopper gets so upset and it's like, I don't have that much, and
• 53:15
  she bends down in Pats's head and says, no, honey, that it's
• 53:16
  just a joke, so precious, And it turns out she knows exactly who
• 53:25
  all of them are, and it's like, yeah, don't you know who
• 53:30
  the people you're up against are? And Lufy's like, no, I don't
• 53:32
  read newspapers, and she's like, yeah, look I get that, but
• 53:37
  you really should though, Like it's to your advantage to be aware of what
• 53:42
  you're gonna be up against. So I'm just saying, maybe just I'll give
• 53:50
  you a little rundown here. So she tells them that okay, she's married
• 53:57
  to him. The she thinks that her husband, he's been gone like a
• 54:02
  month, I think. She says, is in probably the lawless area,
• 54:12
  and that they're going to have to really watch their back because the people that
• 54:16
  they are going to be up against there's going to be eleven other people with
• 54:21
  bounties exceeding one hundred million berries. And at one point at the very end
• 54:28
  of the episode, she says that her husband will be fine because he's a
• 54:31
  hundred times stronger than Loofy or something like that, and everybody's like what,
• 54:37
  And I also would like to know what the fuck that means, Like what
• 54:40
  does that look like? So let's see, you had a choice to make
• 54:46
  when you cross the Grand Line. There were seven c roots that would lead
• 54:50
  you here. After you picked one, you followed your log post the rest
• 54:52
  of the way. Naturally, these other pirates picked one of the six roots
• 54:58
  you chose not to and me, they went through just as much trouble as
• 55:01
  you did to get here. It doesn't matter which route you took. You
• 55:06
  eventually hit the Grand Line, and everybody winds up at this archipelago with hopes
• 55:12
  of getting past that giant wall. And we see like how this went,
• 55:17
  you know, with all of their different colored lines leading forward. It's very
• 55:21
  interesting to me that you get locked into like a particular route that way with
• 55:25
  a log pose. And so this is when she starts to like explain who
• 55:32
  everybody is, so The first person that we meet is this girl. I
• 55:39
  think her name is like Bonnie, and she is a glutton and it's so
• 55:46
  guys, honestly, it's so annoying. So she's at this restaurant and she's
• 55:52
  chowing down, and there's this dude over here that's really giving, like Penguin
• 55:57
  from Batman, but he's a Capone is his name. He's got a real
• 56:05
  gangstery vibe, and he tells one of his guys to go and wire her
• 56:09
  jaws shut. When this dude tells him that's not a good idea. We're
• 56:14
  right by navy headquarters. He turns with his fork and I think is meant
• 56:17
  to have gotten the guy in the eye with it. From Let's see a
• 56:24
  Capone gang beg a I don't know, West Blue, Captain of the fire
• 56:30
  Tank Pirates, which is such a weird name that we're going with, but
• 56:35
  sure, let's do it. Why not? One hundred and one hundred and
• 56:38
  thirty eight million. We jump over to Bonnie, and I'm just gonna really
• 56:44
  quick screen share with you guys, so that you can see when we jump
• 56:50
  back over to Bonnie what we've got. I'm gonna just bounce back ten seconds
• 56:57
  we got him. That's a little instructed card. And then we go to
• 57:01
  Bonnie. We are zoomed in on her titties moving around, and then we
• 57:08
  get a nice close crotch shot for why, for what reason, can we
• 57:16
  just not please? I am begging everybody to not anymore. I will say
• 57:24
  this, it's extremely refreshing for there to be a glutton character who isn't fat,
• 57:31
  because that is just fucking default. I mean, come on, So
• 57:37
  I will admit I did appreciate that she is being displayed as not like,
• 57:45
  oh I eat so much and yet I'm so skinny and that makes me sexy.
• 57:49
  It's like gross, and everybody is going, oh my god, get
• 57:52
  a hold of yourself. What are you doing? And she's eating at a
• 57:54
  rate that's like everyone in the restaurant is going, how does she even fit
• 57:59
  that much food inside of her body? And you show Jewelry Bonnie the aka
• 58:07
  the Glutton one hundred and forty million berries, and I want to mention like
• 58:13
  the way that she's being introduced and everybody like this whole title card thing is
• 58:20
  really giving like a guy Ritchie movie sort of vibe. You know, there's
• 58:24
  like a pause, the colors change the text comes up and it's all like
• 58:30
  done in this really stylized way. And so then this one dude gets like
• 58:36
  sauce on another guy's pants and his boss says, that was the fate of
• 58:40
  your pants. Taking a life on this day will only bring our crew bad
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  fortune. He is magician Basil Hawkins, and he has a two hundred and
• 58:54
  forty nine million berry bounty. This dude looks cool as I really enjoy his
• 59:00
  whole look. I don't have time to get into individual descriptions, unfortunately,
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  but I am certain we will run across these guys again and I will do
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  them justice. Then then we meet Kid and he has got a little bit
• 59:17
  of a joker vibe just because of his voice and the way he's got that
• 59:22
  like lipstick and this extremely wide smile. But he's glaring at this dude in
• 59:29
  the restaurant and they there's an explosion and there's suddenly both outside and this dude
• 59:34
  it looks like, has two elbows on each arm and so his arms look
• 59:39
  crazy. But yeah, he is Sea Roar Scratchman, a Pooh one hundred
• 59:49
  and ninety eight million berries. And then Kid who comes out he says,
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  all I knew was that you wouldn't stop staring at me, and he says,
• 1:00:04
  basically, I'll put you out of your misery because you're such a creepy
• 1:00:07
  looking dude. Eustace Captain kid, three hundred and fifteen million berries. And
• 1:00:16
  what we find out later is that his bounty is so high because he just
• 1:00:22
  literally will kill anybody civilians, it doesn't matter. He is really out here
• 1:00:28
  to just like cause chaos and wreck shit. And we jump over to a
• 1:00:35
  fight between this guy who's like using a pillar as a weapon basically, and
• 1:00:40
  he's got wings and he is fighting with a guy who's got well, looks
• 1:00:45
  almost like a motorcycle helmet, but it's like it's not clear on the front.
• 1:00:52
  It's just got holes punched in it. And then some other dude with
• 1:00:55
  like a captain's hat jumps into the mix, and that is Red Flag Drake
• 1:01:05
  two hundred and twenty two million berries. He's got like a domino mask with
• 1:01:08
  that hat. And let's see, I'm trying to find if the oh yeah,
• 1:01:16
  here it is the dude with a pillar, mad monk, you Roge,
• 1:01:22
  I don't know if I'm saying that right. Honestly, I get a
• 1:01:25
  pretty good energy from him. I kind of like him. I feel like
• 1:01:30
  mad Monk is the one that other than the magician Basil, what's his face,
• 1:01:36
  he's my favorite. And he tells the masked man to get down and
• 1:01:42
  like thank the Drake for his life. That dude is Massacre soldier killer.
• 1:01:49
  Very terrible name, exceptionally bad, really really awful, like top five worst
• 1:01:54
  names of this show. Easy, And so these are like, there's oh,
• 1:02:02
  there's right. There's one last guy who's got like a sort of animal
• 1:02:07
  print thing going on on his hat, on his jeans, lots of tattoos,
• 1:02:12
  and his name is the Surgeon of Death Trafalgar Law. Surgeon of Death.
• 1:02:19
  Ah, I'm like on the fence if it's bad or good. Honestly,
• 1:02:22
  it's one of those. But yeah, So these are the dudes that
• 1:02:27
  they are all facing, and Shocky is like, so, whoever you run
• 1:02:31
  into, just know these are the people that you're against. I like you,
• 1:02:37
  so I'm going to have your back, like I'm cheering you on,
• 1:02:39
  but there's trouble ahead for sure, to which Lufy's like, um, I
• 1:02:47
  really am just here to have fun, so I'm not gonna worry too much.
• 1:02:52
  But your husband, I'm kind of concerned on his behalf. And this
• 1:02:58
  is when she said, trust me, Raley's all right. He's a hundred
• 1:03:01
  times stronger than you. And that is the end of the episode. Is
• 1:03:06
  everybody being like a hundred times and that's it. So yeah, there's so
• 1:03:16
  many people in the chat. I'm so sorry, guys. Jessica says.
• 1:03:22
  There's a cover story about Hatching Kami that was released with the manga. Oh
• 1:03:27
  okay, I have liked it in the oh I think linked it. I've
• 1:03:30
  linked it in the no Spoiler discord channel. Thank you, Jessica. Sarah
• 1:03:37
  from says Oda came up with the characters and designs over a single week when
• 1:03:39
  his editor suggested adding a few more big name pirates to help flesh things out
• 1:03:44
  and make it more interesting. Florian, yeah, because bubbles and the dragons
• 1:03:49
  are not interesting enough. That is wild. They truly thought that. Yeah.
• 1:03:52
  I have to agree with Florian on this one. I was doing all
• 1:03:54
  right without that, honestly, as much as I'm like interested now that those
• 1:04:00
  pirates have been introduced, Initially, I was a little bit disappointed because I
• 1:04:04
  thought we might get sort of a different thing this time. Then here come
• 1:04:10
  a bunch of big bads, and I was a little disappointed that it was
• 1:04:15
  like, oh no, wait, first you are going to have to deal
• 1:04:16
  with a bunch of big beads before you can even probably get to the whole
• 1:04:20
  thing with the dragons. I was like, Ah, really are we doing
• 1:04:24
  this? It really will depend on how good they do with the how well
• 1:04:30
  they do, I'm sorry, I hate doing that with these pirates and flushing
• 1:04:33
  them out and making the fights actually interesting. So yeah, we'll have to
• 1:04:41
  see. Jessica says, do you believe that her husband is a hundred times
• 1:04:45
  stronger? I'm going to say no, I'm going to say that she doesn't
• 1:04:51
  know what Lucy's fully capable of, but I'll say he is fifty times stronger.
• 1:04:56
  How about that? So she's wrong, but she's not like that wrong.
• 1:05:03
  But I'm overtime, so I really do have to wrap. I am
• 1:05:06
  very excited about where this is heading, though I'm not gonna lie, so
• 1:05:10
  I'm looking forward a lot to Thursday. Um, all right, everybody,
• 1:05:15
  thank you again so much for hanging out for listening, and hope you're enjoying
• 1:05:19
  the coverage. Until next time to the loom motherfuckers. That was an unspoiled Network podcast