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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: Despite Atypical OL Performance, Jalen Hurts Made The Difference · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to inside the Tape. Here on Inside
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  the Birds, I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan, and we've
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  got Greg Cosell with us to finish off our Eagles
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  breakdown of their twenty four to twenty win over the
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  Cowboys in the season opener. In the first episode, we
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  did the Eagles defense, and in this one, we are
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  going to do the Eagles offense. And you know, Greg,
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  we've all we all joked, we talked a little bit.
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  It was it felt like a very Eagles like game.
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  From an offensive standpoint. You saw a lot of Saquon Barkley.
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  You saw Jalen Hurts the ball deep. You saw Jalen
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  Hurts run when he could run. And then of course
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  sometimes you saw the pass offense, especially in the second half,
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  just not have the juice that it had earlier. So
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  you saw everything there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I you know, I know a
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  lot of people probably felt that, oh, you know, something's wrong,
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  what's going on, But you know, people have to remember
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  what the team is. They're actually a very smart offensive
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  team and I think Jalen Hurts plays really smart, intelligent football.
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  But there were eight games last year out of eighteen starts.
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  I'm not counting the game in which he left the
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  Washington game early when he got hurt. There were eight
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  games in which he threw for less than two hundred yards.
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  They're not really a true passing team the way much
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  of the NFL is. They're a very smart offensive team
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  that showed up in this game. You know, Jalen hurts.
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  He only had one pass in this game that went
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  more than eleven yards from the line of scrimmage, and
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  that was the ball to dots In, which was a
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  great throw. But you know, it was a chain moving
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  kind of game. It was, you know, there were no
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  big plays really other than the Dotson play. The only
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  thing missing that happened all seemingly every single week last year,
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  which made their scores seem bigger because they did get bigger,
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  was Barkley would have big runs in the second half.
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  That didn't happen in this game. In fact, I think
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  his last seven runs only game to or or two.
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  You know, and and people say, well, they put eight
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  in the box. Come on, people really going to say
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  something as stupid as that. He always they always have
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  eight in the I mean, every team tries to shut
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  down Barkley. That's not a big surprise, you know, But
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  the point is that's what happened last year, is they'd
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  get a big Barkley run or two late in games.
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  I mean, the guy had twelve hundred plus yards in
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  the second half alone last year. You know, everything like
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  seven yards or rush or whatever it was in the
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  in the second half. So that that didn't happen in
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  this imagine if that happened in this game and they
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  win thirty seven to twenty, and everybody'd say, oh, the
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  Eagles are right where we expected them to be.
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  Speaker 3: On that Greg because people want to know was it
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  and it looked like Jeff and I were talking about it,
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  looks like he actually made some yards on his own
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  where maybe it wasn't block grate. What do you think
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  about the run blocking?
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  Speaker 2: Anything standing out to you? Was it their best game? No?
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  You know, and did guys miss some blocks here and there?
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  You know, don't forget it's the first game where everybody
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  played for four you know, or quarters. I don't put
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  a lot of stock in first games as far as
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  what the whole season is going to be, you know,
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  I mean, obviously you'd rather win. Look, the Eagles probably
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  not probably didn't play their best game, probably on either
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  side of the ball, and they won the Chiefs they lost.
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  You know, you know these things. It's week one. You know,
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  we're not going to make definitive comments about the whole season.
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  I actually thought that I don't think Cam Jurgens played
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  very well at all in this game. By the way,
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  I thought Tyler Steen did play well. I thought Lane
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  Johnson had some bad snaps, which were very surprising. My
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  Alta had a few bad snaps. You know, I would
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  never be comfortable sitting here now saying Cam Jurgens is
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  gonna have a bad year, Lane Johnson is gonna have
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  a bad year. Jordan my Aleot is going to have
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  a bad year. I'm not you know, any would you
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  be comfortable saying that game. They're also human beings, Eagles.
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  Speaker 1: I remember all of us having a breakdown show after
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  the Eagles struggle to beat the Patriots two years ago
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  in the season opener, and the Patriots only won like
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  three games that year. They really well, So.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't really think we want
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  to make these definitive judgments about the whole season. It
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  was not the best game and they won, and that's
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  when it's week one like that, you know, don't forget
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  when you see them now play a whole game. It's
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  that's so I don't think people realize how different that is,
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  you know, from playing you know, from practice number one
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  and then playing you know, twelve snaps and you know
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  when some guys didn't even play. I mean, you know,
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  so it's just a totally different deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So there is one one question I have for
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  you that we talked about on Inside the Birds that
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  I do think it's a conversation worth having about just
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  beyond well it's week one. It's that the Eagles were
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  a very successful running team out of eleven personnel last
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  year and Johnny Wilson was was helpful in that because
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  he was a big, blocking wide receiver and teams would
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  play nickel against it. And then now you've lose was
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  Ben van sumer In on your first site opening kick, Oh,
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  you lose two kind of underrated or parts of your
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  running game. And I wonder what kind of long term
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  impact that might have on the Eagles, who if they
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  want to run out of twelve personnel, it becomes difficult
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  because I don't think grank kal Kata they don't Adam
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  Man talk. They don't really have a good why tight
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  end outside of Dallas Goddard.
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  Speaker 2: Who I would agree with that in kal Katara, first
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  of all, kal Katara going back to his days at
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  Oklahoma when he was a big time receiver and then
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  finishing up I believe it Smu it was? Was it not? Smu? Yes? Yes,
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  I mean he's he's a receiver. You know that that
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  was his game. You know they played twenty one plays
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  in twelve personnel. He had there were three or four
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  plays where he had major issues in run blocking. So
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  they don't have to figure you know, y'all try to
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  figure that out. I mean, maybe they'll go to more
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  eleven personnel. You know, they had thirty plays in this game.
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  You know that that's something they'll try to figure out.
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  They obviously played this game asking kal Katara to be
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  a blocker in run game, you know where he had
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  a block defensive ends at times, and you know he
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  didn't do very well. So but I I don't, you know,
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  I don't want to say, gee, they were they were
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  trying to see what would happen, because you don't try
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  to see what would happen with the idea that, hey,
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  if we lose, that's okay. But I mean I think
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  they're they're trying to figure out the best way they
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  can play on offense, you know, right now, because every
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  year is different. You know, it's always easy to say, well,
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  just stick to the formula, and you want to do
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  that to a certain extent because you're really good at it.
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  But on the other hand, you do have to make
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  some tweaks and adjustments because defenses are going to make
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  some tweaks and adjustments. Now, some people might look at
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  this game, which obviously was not, you know, a great
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  looking game to watch, and think that, oh, the Eagles
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  can't play this way if they expect to get back
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  to the super Bowl. I mean, we all hear social media,
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  you know, all the all the bs, and I've already
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  heard people say, well, this game just already proves it
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  to me the Eagles aren't going back to the super Bowl,
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  you know, I mean, because it wasn't pretty, it didn't
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  look great, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I actually, you're not being facetious. I actually did see
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  a analyst with a name tweet that, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Was now several people tweet, you know, talk about that.
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  You know, and and but you know, in many ways,
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  this was sort of how they played a year ago.
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  So the question we all we asked the same question,
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  by the way, all last season and they ended up
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  winning a Super Bowl. We kept saying, well, can they
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  can they play this way? If Jalen Hurts only throws
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  for one hundred and seventy yards? You know, and you
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  know what, they They played that way all the way
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  to winning a super Bowl. You know, and and we'll see,
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  you know, they probably know that they'd like to get
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  more out of their passing game. You know, a J.
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  Brown is not gonna have one target every week. And
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  my guess is that as as Adam and I were
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  discussing earlier, that he'll probably get a few more targets
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  against the thieves, and he's probably made that known. But
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  but you know, that's you know, they're not really a
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  true passing team in a strict.
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  Speaker 3: Sense, not like twenty twenty two when they were a
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  passing team. There you got Barkley, your your your foundations,
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  the running again and then the Hurts you know that too.
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  Speaker 2: The Hurts factor in the screen. I mean, in this game,
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  how many scrambles did he have that were so critical?
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you greg On that I have not
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  seen he's picked up this juke move. He looks more
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  explosive running the football. I thought he looked damn good
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  on the ground, really, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And there's such a good sustaining team now. I mean,
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  you know when he drops back and hits a six
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  yard seven yard play, you know that's a really important
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  play for the Eagles because of what they do on
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  third down, what they do on fourth down when necessary.
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  I mean, this is how they play. Yeah, you know,
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  I mean, yeah, are there going to be big plays
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  in the past game. Of course, there will be you
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  orcas in here and say there's never going to be
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  a big play. But that that's they're not really, that's
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  not who they are in a strict sense. They don't
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  come out to say, let's toss it all over the yard. Yeah,
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  having said that, might there be a game or two,
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  depending on opponent, where they think that's the best way
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  to play. Of course, there'll be a game like that.
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  It's the NFL. But you know that's not their foundation.
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  That's you know that they're they're not just you know,
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  they're not going to just come out and toss it
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  all over the yard. Yep, Greig.
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  Speaker 1: One thing that I thought was happening in the first
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  half that was maybe a little bit more of a
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  Dallas breakdown than anything was. I felt that their rush
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  lanes were I don't want to say reckless, but not
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  not ideal for keeping Jalen Hurts inside. Yeah, and then
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  in the second half, I feel like they've made an
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  adjustment there with a little pressure and then just more
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  pocket attainment.
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  Speaker 2: Is that something that you know, it's funny you say
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  that because I came away and and maybe it was
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  the last play that wrapped up the game, you know,
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  where he ran for a first down. But it just
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  too often again, and I hate to make these comments
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  because I'm certainly not in the Cowboys meetings. I don't
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  know what Matt Eberfluss was, you know, was preaching all
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  week and what they practiced all week. So this is
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  you know you you guys know me well enough to
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  know I don't rip coaches. All I'm saying is watching
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  the tape too often, it appeared as if there wasn't
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  a plan for Hurts scrambling. That's that's what the tape
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  told me. Now, guys could have not executed what they
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  were taught. I don't know that it just the way
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  it played out. It didn't seem like there was a plan.
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  It just seemed like he had too much freedom, you know, scrambling.
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  You know. Didn't you guys feel the same way watching it?
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 3: How I'm like, where because Jeff you pointed this out
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  when we were talking. Did you know the guys are
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  getting too far afield?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I thought I thought it was when a
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  guy goes up field, or when he makes an inside
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  move on an offensive tackle and then leaves the outside
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  exposed like that, that usually is a red carpet for
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  Jalen hurts to run and would say, you know, God,
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  I'm sorry, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was gonna say it. I've hurt seen space.
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  He's gonna run, you know. But I thought, But I
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  also thought there were some guys on the Dallas defensive
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  line that flashed throughout the game. And I thought that
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  they actually played well in the run game and at
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  times rushing hurts, you know, again because we don't know
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  what they were told to do. I thought Sam Williams
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  flashed a lot in this game. I thought both Neiland
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  and Azaruku showed up as well, but you know, it
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  just there were too many times. And it's always easy
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  to say because Hurts is very good at this. Hurts
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  has a tremendous you know. The thing about Hurts is
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  he clearly has an innate feel for the way the
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  game flows. He doesn't turn it over. He doesn't make throws.
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  Wigl what's he doing with that throw? You know, he
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  doesn't do that. Now. He may not hit a lot
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  of plays that you know, you think, okay, that might
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  be there. Maybe you know, maybe Matthew Stafford throws that,
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  but you know, at the end of the day, it
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  fits their team. He plays in a team sport. He
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  plays sort of the quintessential team ball, and the numbers
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  are probably not going to be there. He's not gonna
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  throw for forty three hundred yards. He's probably not going
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  to throw thirty five touchdowns, you know, but he plays
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  team ball. That's his game, and it.
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  Speaker 3: Goes through Barkley. That's that's the thing. You're not gonna
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  be throwing the ball a lot when it goes through
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  the run. Game goes through your quarterback as used to
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  be a running back, and your quarterback back right right.
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  Speaker 1: All right? One last thing on Kevin with Kevin Patulo,
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  because he's offensive coordinator, this is his debut. What do
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  you think of the first fifteen.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I wasn't studying that in particular, but here's what
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  I will say, and I'm curious, and again just watching tape,
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  this is no knock on Petullo. It's game one. But
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  I didn't think there were a lot of clean, defined
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  looks for Jalen in this game. Now, again, I'm not
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  gonna sit here and say the rock concepts and combinations
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  were bad. You know, I would never do that. But
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  you know, I didn't think that there were a lot
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  you know, when you when he did drop back to pass,
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  that was a true drop back type passing situation. I
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  didn't think there are a lot of defined, clean looks
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  for him to deliver the ball. And for the most part,
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  for the most part, he's not a guy that is
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  going to you know, throw it into really tight, tight windows.
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  You know, that's not his game. And that's okay. You know,
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  he has other strengths in his game. But uh yeah,
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  well so we'll see, you know, don't forget. It's also
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  Kevin Patullo's first game as an OC where it's a
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  four quarter game. It's a whole different animal. You're not
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  just calling individual plays now, You're you're dealing with an
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  entire game, right, you know, So again he has to
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  grow too. You know, he's a pretty young guy. He's
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  not an old guy. He hasn't been doing this for
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  thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, all right, Greg, last episode, when we talked
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  about the defense, we asked you to give us your
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  evaluation of Zadarius Smith, who had just signed by the Eagles.
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  And now we have to ask you about another guy
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  who's coming. Who's come to the Eagles, and he's a
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  running back, Tank big Speed, who has been a quiet
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  in a trade with the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: So wow, I didn't even when did that happen?
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  Speaker 1: A little bit here?
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  Speaker 2: Happened Monday night?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, happened Monday night. And uh yeah, so Bigsby? What
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  what when you think of Tank Bigsby in the Jaguars offense?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What did he bring to it?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? I've always been a really big Tanks big b fan,
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  going back to his tape in college. So I mean
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  he's stylistically, you know, no one is truly Barkley, but
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  stylistically he's he's more like that. So now I guess
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  that raises the question, you know, is anybody gonna miss
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  like a lot of time here? Well?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, has a rib injury and he he only played
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  six players, so this is obviously part of this that
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  that's that's obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Does that mean Corey Dillon's not long for this team?
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  Speaker 4: A J.
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  Speaker 3: Dillon aj Dyllan. Well, no, but again we don't know
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  exactly what Shipley has. But if Shipley has broken ribs,
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  it's going as time. Yeah, we'll find out later this week,
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  you know exactly what it is. But wow, Yeah, Big
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  Bigsby is a guy. At one point, I know, talking
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  the Jaguars, they thought he might well, he might not
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  take Etn's job.
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  Speaker 1: This is a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: They liked a lot of the things you were talking about,
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  and then he just couldnot play consistently good football. But
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  there's talent there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is yeah, I mean he's he's I remember
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  too when I did him at Auburn and looked at
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  his background. He was a huge recruit. It was a
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  big get for Auburn. I gotta tell you, I I
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  really like Yeah, you know, I'm sure they didn't give
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  up much right.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just a couple of draft picks fifth and six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I really like Big b as a runner.
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  I mean, you know, again we know that that Barkley
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  is the feature back. You know, again, I don't know
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  what their thought process is with Barkley in terms of
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  giving him you know, I don't want to rest is
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  not the right word, but giving him a blow as
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  it were, you know, because no matter how strong a
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  guy is, to carry as often as he did a
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  year ago and really be that guy for multiple seasons
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  is hard. Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess some
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  guys can do it. You know, Derrick Henry, he's a freak.
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  You know, Barkley to a certain extent is But I
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  don't know, you know, I don't know what the thought
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  process is. But I like the player. I like the
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  way he runs.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll definitely get into it on the inside the
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  Birds pregame show when we drop that before the Chiefs game,
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  just about you know, the role. When we have a
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  little more clarity on the role that he's going to play.
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  Let us break down some tape. I want to go
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  back to Jalen Hurts and some of his well, let's
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  go to his you know signature plays. Is one deep ball.
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  He's good for at least one of these per game
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  to Johan Dotson fifty one yarder. And I'll set the
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  stage here, Greg, it is now loaded up. What strikes
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  you just about the alignment and the defense that they're
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  looking at and hurts his mentality here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean this was a third and six, by
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  the way, when normally on third and six they don't
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  throw these kinds of balls.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny I ask that of of of the why
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  can I think of John Dotson in the locker room?
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  I said, you know a lot of quarterbacks wouldn't do
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  that on third and six. He goes, I know, but
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  he he trusts that ball.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's the right read because they're playing quarters. So
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  it became the right read because he got Davonte Smith
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  in the slot and you have Johan Dotson outside. So
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  when Smith vertical releases from number two, the safety has
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  to react to him because it's quarters. So quarters, you know,
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  is man with rules. So once once Smith starts running vertically,
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  the safety and is that Hooker perhaps I believe it is, yes, yeah,
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  so he so Hooker basically has to match him right now,
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  and you can tell by Hooker the way his body
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  position in body language is that he's matching Devonte Smith.
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  So now what you have and you have an outside
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  leverage corner in kir Elim down below with Dotson going
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  to the post and no safety help over the top,
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  so it hurts made absolutely the right read, you know,
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  because there's no Now it's just Dotson running running to
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  the with an outside leverage corner and nobody over the
• 19:03
  top of it.
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  Speaker 1: Now when he releases the ball, look look at Dotson.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the great things here too
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  that has to be pointed out is dots and if
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  you can you go back a little, Jeff. Sure, Look
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  how he literally steps on his toe. You go, yep,
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  going one more frame, literally keep going right there. I mean,
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  so you know that that's just terrific route running right there,
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  because now Elon thinks he's going straight on a go
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  route and now he just creates enough separation because with
• 19:38
  Hooker having to run with Smith, which you can see
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  because he matched him, Jalen can throw this ball across
• 19:45
  the field on these deep posts. You're not throwing the
• 19:47
  ball straight. You don't want the guy to catch it
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  like over the top like this, you want the guy
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  to catch it, you know, running to space, running to air,
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  and that you see, that's where he places it. This
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  is you couldn't have handed it to him any better.
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  This is a great great well, well, you see how
• 20:02
  he catches it. Yeah, going this way, not this way.
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  That was phenomenal. Yah, that's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, it's not like this was
• 20:09
  bad coverage by Elam he got he's half a step.
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  Speaker 2: Down, so it's really it's very difficult for him to
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  do anything about it other then hopefully maybe get a
• 20:19
  hand in. But the ball is so well thrown.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was wondering all game are they going
• 20:24
  to go after Elim because that was the guy that
• 20:26
  quite frankly, we wondered would he fit this scheme with
• 20:28
  ebra Flus And we'll have to see.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: By the way, Greg just made a great point. If
• 20:32
  this ball is thrown a little bit differently so that
• 20:35
  it's not out in front but over the shoulder, he
• 20:37
  might get tackled at the thirty six. It's still first down.
• 20:40
  But look at how he's able to momentum get some
• 20:42
  extra what five six seven yards here.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: He's got beautifully thrown ball. It was really it was
• 20:49
  a great throw. Yeah, No, I mean basically read the coverage.
• 20:53
  I mean, you know, if let's say Hooker, if it
• 20:56
  was a different coverage, that might not have been the.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Throw right right, all right, I want to go through
• 21:01
  one of the Hurst touchdown runs, the four yard touchdown
• 21:04
  run on third and four. I believe here and this
• 21:09
  is in the What quarter was that?
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  Speaker 2: Was that?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: The first quarter? I believe right, this was.
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  Speaker 2: The first touchdown run. If you're taken, yes, I.
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  Speaker 1: Believe you're right. So how is this It's gonna be
• 21:18
  a run. He's gonna kind of pop it around right
• 21:20
  right edge here. I wonder sometimes Greg, I wonder, if
• 21:25
  you know, we talk about sometimes there are throws there
• 21:27
  that doesn't make or doesn't say. But sometimes I just
• 21:29
  wonder if he just knows that the defense is gonna
• 21:32
  give him the the green, so he just takes it
• 21:35
  instead of throwing what my people.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Will see Fowler, who is the defensive end to the
• 21:40
  top of the screen here, Yep, he rushes inside Elane Johnson.
• 21:44
  So again, I can't believe Fowler was taught to do this.
• 21:47
  You know, I don't know why he did it. But
• 21:49
  as soon as he does that, the edge just oh,
• 21:51
  you know, yeah right there. As soon as he does that,
• 21:56
  because this is not this is not Jalen looking to run.
• 21:59
  There's no throw here. You know, he's looking to his left.
• 22:02
  He doesn't have a throw.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you think the design of this is supposed
• 22:07
  to go.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I think the design is for Smith up top.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, maybe I.
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  Speaker 2: Think this throw is designed for Smith and it's undercut
• 22:16
  by whoever that is, right, I think it's blanned, got it. Yeah,
• 22:20
  it's planned because he moved inside in their nickel when
• 22:22
  when Diggs came in, So this throw is designed for Smith.
• 22:26
  On the outcut, they're expecting man here and and you
• 22:29
  know he doesn't have it. So then he came back left,
• 22:32
  you know, for for to go through the read and
• 22:34
  nothing is clearly defined. And then as soon and this
• 22:37
  is where Herts just feels stuff. As soon as he
• 22:39
  felt that Fowler was inside the whole, the whole right
• 22:42
  side opens up. Yeah.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And from then it's just off the races. Nice block
• 22:47
  lead block here by the way by DeVante's Johan Dotson.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean that's what happened. But yeah, that
• 22:54
  play was designed for DeVonta Smith.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Right. But this is what I talking about before I
• 22:59
  was I was I didn't want to use the word reckless,
• 23:01
  but I was sort of surprised that a veteran like
• 23:03
  Fowler would put an inside move here and leave the outside.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Especially when they're matching up on that side. There's no
• 23:11
  defender sitting there right right right, so by the way
• 23:15
  on the Barkley touchdown run. And I don't know if
• 23:17
  you have it, but DeVante Smith made a great block,
• 23:20
  and I think that's worth you know, acknowledging, even if
• 23:23
  you don't have it. He made a great block. And
• 23:26
  and you know you don't think of him as that guy,
• 23:28
  but you know that that's when it's just a bad effort.
• 23:31
  You know, you don't have to be you know, two
• 23:33
  hundred and fifty pounds, and you know that that just
• 23:35
  gets down to effort and you don't have to pancake
• 23:37
  a guy.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely. Here's the other Hurts touchdown run. This one was
• 23:42
  the ten yarder and I thought similarly that there was
• 23:45
  an abandonment of contector. Now where where do you see
• 23:49
  what's the read here in the idea? Because there's a
• 23:51
  rubb I think that's the one. There's a pick on
• 23:52
  the left.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, this this is this is empty if I'm right,
• 23:57
  if memory serves me correctly, they had a two man
• 24:01
  route concept into the boundary and a three man route
• 24:03
  combination to the field. I think his initial read was
• 24:07
  to the boundary. If I'm not mistaken.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I thought it was kind of a smash
• 24:13
  to aj Brown, but it was it was sort of
• 24:15
  against his zone, so there wasn't there wasn't as a
• 24:18
  definitive throw there.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: But he's looking to his right to the two man concept.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah he was. You're right, he was looking to the
• 24:24
  right the whole time. But you know, I mean, I
• 24:30
  guess he's he might have been able to throw to
• 24:31
  the corner, but it looks well defended to me.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Now again, that's what you want if you're Dallas. So
• 24:37
  that's why why do you want this?
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think again, I don't know if Barkley
• 24:41
  made a mistake or not, but you know, if you're
• 24:44
  if you you ideally want to eat up Digs here
• 24:48
  because you're counting on uh is that cal Katara?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You're counting on cal Kutara because he has leverage to
• 24:59
  be able to win too the outside, which he kind
• 25:02
  of does. Okay, So but the guy you have to
• 25:05
  beat is Digs, not the not the safety. So again
• 25:09
  I'm not sitting here. I don't know how they teach this,
• 25:11
  but you ultimately want Digs to have to react to
• 25:14
  Barkley so that he can't sink and be a factor
• 25:18
  on the throw. That's what you're hoping happens right now.
• 25:21
  It's easy to sit here and say, gee, should have
• 25:23
  looked to the other side. Well, that's always easy to say,
• 25:26
  but we don't know how they teach it. Now. I'm
• 25:28
  not going to sit here and say that he made
• 25:30
  a mistake. I don't know that, right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: But so here's where I question it again. You're Dallas,
• 25:35
  you get what you want on the back end. Defensively,
• 25:37
  Hurts doesn't want to go anywhere with the ball. But
• 25:40
  the guy who's lined up here across left tackle, Jordan Milotta,
• 25:44
  tries an inside spin.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Now that's what happened.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeh yeah, and then bam off to the races again.
• 25:53
  So that might have been yeah, yeah, yeah, young kid.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Now what you had there is where a lot of
• 26:00
  teams play when they play two shell coverage, guys, is
• 26:03
  you get three over two to the boundary and you
• 26:05
  get four over three to the field. That's that's what
• 26:08
  zone coverage often becomes three over two, four over three.
• 26:12
  So whatever side you know, I don't know how they
• 26:14
  teach it. Is it pick a side? Is it? We
• 26:16
  want to work to the boundary. I don't know that,
• 26:20
  but I mean the numbers don't necessarily favor you, so
• 26:23
  you know you're hoping that that the routes, you know,
• 26:26
  cause conflict, right. You know, that's why I mentioned Barkley.
• 26:30
  And again I don't know if he did anything wrong,
• 26:32
  but you know Diggs is not really controlled.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Here, correct.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's easy now to look up top and say, oh, gee,
• 26:39
  DeVante Smith is wide open running, but you know that's
• 26:43
  one of the rules, right, Yeah, that's easy to say
• 26:45
  after the fact.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And Adam great point. I you know, there have been
• 26:49
  a couple of times where when Hurts is run, he's
• 26:51
  he's run, but he's not looked as explosive in years
• 26:53
  back this. I mean, he really had to beat the
• 26:56
  linebacker all the way to the place. It's not like
• 26:58
  he was the path was once he got outside, which
• 27:02
  is right around now. But there's a lot to beat
• 27:05
  that linebacker who was way closer than he was.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: His juke move.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: He takes that one right step and then turns back in.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: You cannot discount Hurts running all over the field, but
• 27:16
  certainly in the red zone. I mean, this is a
• 27:18
  big part of their offense. It's a significant part. Obviously,
• 27:22
  you're not coaching it. Although I'm pretty certain that with
• 27:25
  quarterbacks that are like Jalen Hurts, that have this kind
• 27:28
  of running ability, that they probably don't get upset if
• 27:32
  they think maybe he missed the throw. He didn't there
• 27:35
  by the way that he missed the throw and he
• 27:37
  runs and good results happened. I mean, this is a
• 27:40
  major part of his game, and defenses have to try
• 27:43
  to deal with this. I mean, this is a big deal.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see on Sunday against Kansas City if
• 27:50
  they take a little bit of a different tack on
• 27:51
  how they want to rush him from the edges, because
• 27:54
  they've got a lot of experience that as well.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you say that because the same thing
• 27:58
  happened on Herbert's you know, winning run of nineteen yards
• 28:02
  when Chris Jones went inside on his pass rush and
• 28:06
  you know, and Chris Jones is a great player and
• 28:09
  maybe a Hall of Famer, but on that particular play,
• 28:11
  he made a mistake.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Jalen Hurts can make people make mistakes. It happens,
• 28:16
  all right, Great stuff awesome. That is the full breakdown
• 28:20
  in two parts, he did what we did offense. We
• 28:21
  did defense for Greg Cosel and Adam Kaplan. I'm Jeff Mosher.
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  We'll catch you all next week on the next edition
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