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The 25th Commemoration of the Devastating Events of September 11th · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of That Kevin Show,
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  Speaker 1: September 11th, 25 years later. I'm Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: You say you'll never forget where you were when you
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  Speaker 2: heard the news on September 11th, 2001. Neither will I.
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  Speaker 2: I was on the 110th floor in a smoke-filled room
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  Speaker 2: with a man who called his wife to say goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: I held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave
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  Speaker 2: him the piece to say, Honey, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: make it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's okay.
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  Speaker 4: I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 3: I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: I was with his wife when he called as she
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  Speaker 2: fed breakfast to their children. I held her up as
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  Speaker 2: she tried to understand his words. And as she realized
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't coming home that night. I was in the
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  Speaker 2: stairwell of the 23rd floor when a woman cried out
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  Speaker 2: to me for help. I've been knocking on the door
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  Speaker 2: of your heart for 50 years. I said, of course
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you the way home. Only believe in me now.
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  Speaker 2: I was at the base of the building when the
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  Speaker 2: priest ministered to the injured and devastated souls. I took
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  Speaker 2: him home to tend his flock in heaven. He heard
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  Speaker 2: my voice and answered. I was on all four of
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  Speaker 2: those planes in every seat with every prayer. I was
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  Speaker 2: with the crew as they were overtaken. I was in
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  Speaker 2: the very hearts of the believers there comforting and assuring
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  Speaker 2: them that their faith has saved them. I was in
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  Speaker 2: Texas Kansas London I was standing next to you when
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  Speaker 2: you heard the terrible news did you sense me? I
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  Speaker 2: want you to know that I saw every face I
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  Speaker 2: knew every name though not all know me some met
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  Speaker 2: me for the first time on the 86th floor some
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  Speaker 2: sought me with their last breath Some couldn't hear me
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  Speaker 2: calling to them through the smoke and flames. Come to me.
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  Speaker 2: This way.
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  Speaker 3: Take my hand.
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  Speaker 2: Some chose, for the final time, to ignore me.
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  Speaker 3: But I was there.
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  Speaker 2: I did not place you in the tower that day.
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  Speaker 2: You may not know why, but I do. However, if
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  Speaker 2: you were there in that explosive moment in time, would
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  Speaker 2: you have reached for me?
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  Speaker 5: September 11th, 2001 was not the end of the journey
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  Speaker 5: for you.
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  Speaker 2: But someday your journey will end and I'll be there
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  Speaker 2: for you as well. Seek me now while I may
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  Speaker 2: be found. Then, at any moment, you know you're ready
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  Speaker 2: to go. I will be in the stairwell of your
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  Speaker 2: final moments.
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  Speaker 3: Remember, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I have worried about as the
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  Speaker 1: last 25 years have come and gone is just how
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  Speaker 1: quickly our nation might forget about what happened on this
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  Speaker 1: day a quarter of a century ago. I forget about it.
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  Speaker 1: Not completely. You can't if you lived through it. But
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  Speaker 1: most of the year I don't think about September 11.
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  Speaker 1: And then September comes. And there it is. The second plane.
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  Speaker 1: I remember watching it hit. Not the replay, not the
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  Speaker 1: multitude of replays, but the actual moment that it happened.
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  Speaker 1: The first plane had left rooms for questions. An accident?
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  Speaker 1: Something going wrong? Terribly wrong? But the second plane answered them,
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  Speaker 1: and we were under attack. I remember the bodies. I
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  Speaker 1: hate even saying that. People falling from buildings because whatever
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  Speaker 1: was behind them was worse than whatever was outside the
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  Speaker 1: open window. And 25 years later, I forced myself to
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  Speaker 1: watch the footage. I remember the towers coming down. I
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  Speaker 1: remember staring at the television trying to understand what I
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  Speaker 1: was seeing. Buildings that had been part of the New
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  Speaker 1: York skyline were just gone. And I remember something else,
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  Speaker 1: something most people probably don't know about my September 11th,
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  Speaker 1: the day before I had just gotten my first talk show.
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  Speaker 1: September 10th. So much for easing into the job. My
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  Speaker 1: second day as host, terrorists attacked the United States and
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  Speaker 1: I ended up being on the air for 18 hours.
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  Speaker 1: I had a live microphone in front of me while
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to process exactly the same thing everybody
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  Speaker 1: else was listening and trying to process. But what do
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  Speaker 1: you say in those moments? I genuinely didn't know. We
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  Speaker 1: took calls. Some people cried. I cried. We prayed. And
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  Speaker 1: underneath all of it was a question I don't think
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  Speaker 1: people who weren't old enough to experience that day can
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  Speaker 1: completely understand. But we asked the rest of the day,
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  Speaker 1: was it over? Were there more planes, more targets, more
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  Speaker 1: people waiting to attack? Nobody really knew the answer. Fighter
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  Speaker 1: jets were over American cities and airports went silent. And
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  Speaker 1: for weeks after A low-flying airplane could make you a
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  Speaker 1: little nervous in a way it never had before. That's
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  Speaker 1: difficult to explain now. Before September 11th, airplanes were just airplanes.
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  Speaker 1: Then they weren't. And somewhere in those awful days, something
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  Speaker 1: else happened that I haven't seen quite the same way since.
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  Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats walked out onto the steps of the
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  Speaker 1: United States Capitol together and sang God Bless America. They
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  Speaker 1: weren't very good. Some of them stumbled over the words,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody cared about that. For a few minutes, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't Republicans or Democrats. They were Americans. Churches filled up, too.
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  Speaker 1: People prayed who hadn't prayed in years, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: say that critically, quite the opposite. Sometimes you discover what
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  Speaker 1: you believe when you've run out of everything else to
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  Speaker 1: hold on to. And I remember going to my church
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  Speaker 1: that night, and the place was packed. We were scared
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  Speaker 1: and angry and grieving. But for a little while, we
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  Speaker 1: were together. It didn't last. Of course it didn't last.
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  Speaker 1: We're human. But it happened. And that's the part I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to forget. We came together. 25 years later. Somehow,
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  Speaker 1: we made it through that togetherness that's what September does
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  Speaker 1: to me for 11 months I think I've put it
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in a back pocket or in tucked away memory
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  Speaker 1: and then September comes around and I realize I haven't
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  Speaker 1: forgotten nearly as much as I thought I had and
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  Speaker 1: today we will not forget but we will remember it's
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  Speaker 6: So so.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Here he.
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  Speaker 7: Is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: is back with us for our final discussion on this
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  Speaker 1: week-long look at Lamentations 3 and kind of what we've
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  Speaker 1: put in the terminology of Old Testament Israel's version of 9-11. Really,
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  Speaker 1: our 9-11 was probably their equivalent of August 15th. But, Dave,
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  Speaker 1: there's lots of dates that stick in our head. December 7th, 1941. 9-11, 2001.
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  Speaker 1: October the 7th. You just say these dates and they
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  Speaker 1: immediately bring back to people's minds the idea that life
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  Speaker 1: is unpredictable. And that the world has real evil and
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  Speaker 1: that there really is a source of good. And we
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  Speaker 1: we need to tap into that and and latch on
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  Speaker 1: to he who is that source for everything that we've got,
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  Speaker 1: because that's the only the only way out is through him.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's how we want to be. So what
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  Speaker 1: have we looked at this week? Kind of kind of
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  Speaker 1: bring this home for us.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks so much again for having me, Kevin. It's been
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  Speaker 8: a privilege, especially in the week coming up to 9-11.
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  Speaker 3: We have, first of all, the.
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  Speaker 8: Writer, Jeremiah, experiencing a relinquishing of hope. His circumstances, seeing
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  Speaker 8: the city he loved, the temple he loved, and he
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  Speaker 8: was a priest himself. His dad may very well have
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  Speaker 8: been the high priest. So he's watching the temple that
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  Speaker 8: he loved being ransacked and burnt down.
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  Speaker 3: And he, for a moment, appears to lose.
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  Speaker 8: Hope and say, God, you filled me with bitterness.
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  Speaker 3: And we've talked about this before.
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  Speaker 8: You and I aren't going anywhere tomorrow eating wormwood if
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  Speaker 8: we can avoid it. But, you know, he's talking about that.
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  Speaker 8: But then he stops himself, and he makes a choice.
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  Speaker 8: He makes a choice not to remember– his wanderings, not
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  Speaker 8: to remember his pain, but to remember who God is.
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  Speaker 3: And when he talks about who.
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  Speaker 8: God is and the fact that he calls to mind
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  Speaker 8: that God is one with steadfast love and that love
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  Speaker 8: never ceases and that he's a God of mercy and
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  Speaker 8: that mercy never fails and that it's new every morning,
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  Speaker 8: great is thy faithfulness, his hope is is restored and
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  Speaker 8: and and and that's the the last part of what
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  Speaker 8: we talk he has confidence he is he has surety
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  Speaker 8: he has a hope that is uh indeed you know
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  Speaker 8: sure you know when we think of of 9-11 and
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  Speaker 8: what you said is just so poignant we we say
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  Speaker 8: these dates in in history and um We can get
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  Speaker 8: caught up in the scar they caused. You know, on
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  Speaker 8: my right hand, my index finger, I have a scar
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  Speaker 8: from something that happened to me in the fifth grade.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know, it's healed. And the thing to focus
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  Speaker 3: on is.
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  Speaker 8: Not necessarily that there is a scar, although that's a
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  Speaker 8: good reminder, but that there is healing.
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  Speaker 3: And we know God who brings healing.
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  Speaker 8: Deep pain even 25 years later I will go to
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  Speaker 8: the 9-11 memorial and it's it's it's painful it's painful
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  Speaker 8: it's painful and but there is a God who brings
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  Speaker 8: healing who fills the hole that is.
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  Speaker 1: In our heart well in our our prayer is that
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  Speaker 1: we are able to capture what Jeremiah is talking here
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  Speaker 1: and for many more things than just the memory of
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  Speaker 1: this one painful day. We have pain all the time.
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  Speaker 1: There's things that we walk through. There's things that someone's
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  Speaker 1: walking through right now that is every bit as cataclysmic
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  Speaker 1: as 9-11 was to those who lost loved ones that
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  Speaker 1: day now. And we don't know anything about this person
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  Speaker 1: or what they're dealing with, but they are looking for
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  Speaker 1: that hope. They are looking, they're in desperation maybe of
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  Speaker 1: The idea that maybe that hope doesn't exist and they
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  Speaker 1: need they need those of us who know him to
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  Speaker 1: be living this out so that so that we can
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  Speaker 1: be the living witness that that brings them there.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. Absolutely. And I think what you're saying is just
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  Speaker 3: so true. And not to trivialize trivialize 9-11 in any way,
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  Speaker 3: shape or form.
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  Speaker 8: But for many people, you know, they have experiences that
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  Speaker 8: that to them. is, you know, it's catastrophic. And where
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  Speaker 8: do you find hope in that? Where do you turn
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  Speaker 8: in that? You know, we've taught people to look to science.
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  Speaker 8: We've taught people to look to politicians and political solutions.
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  Speaker 8: We've taught people to even, you know, rely on.
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  Speaker 3: Friends and family. But many times all of that, all.
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  Speaker 8: Of that is for naught because there are no great, perfect,
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  Speaker 8: There is one who is there for us.
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  Speaker 3: There is one who knows what's going on in our hearts.
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  Speaker 3: There is one who has the answers.
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  Speaker 8: And that is the steadfast Lord that we know, that
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  Speaker 8: we love, that we serve.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, it's important, as you said.
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  Speaker 8: Such that people look at us in the middle of
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  Speaker 8: our difficulties and we're able to give an answer for
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  Speaker 8: the reason for the hope that is in us with
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  Speaker 8: meekness and trembling. It's not us. It's the God we
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  Speaker 8: cling to. It's the God we've run to. And we
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  Speaker 8: know that his mercies are new every morning. We know
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  Speaker 8: that he is faithful. We know that he loves us
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  Speaker 8: with a steadfast love.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that's one of the reasons, um, It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of interesting that this is all happening on the same day,
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  Speaker 1: but my music group released a song at midnight last
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  Speaker 1: night called Yesterday the Same, and it picks up on
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  Speaker 1: that Hebrews passage and also Psalm 102, where it talks
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  Speaker 1: about how God's love and faithfulness are the same yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and today and tomorrow and forever. And the idea is
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  Speaker 1: whether we acknowledge it or not, whether we are in
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  Speaker 1: alignment with it or not. I talk a lot about
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  Speaker 1: wanting to be in alignment with God's plan and his will.
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  Speaker 1: I talk about that because it's easier than being in
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  Speaker 1: opposition to his plan and his will. When we choose
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  Speaker 1: to align ourselves with the one who made us, we
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  Speaker 1: know that on a deeper level than any other experience
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  Speaker 1: can give us. And I think that there's so many people, Dave,
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  Speaker 1: this week that need that word of hope.
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  Speaker 3: I 100% agree.
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  Speaker 8: And if you're listening today and you've never taken that
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  Speaker 8: step of, and we use terms that people often don't understand,
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  Speaker 8: but giving your heart to the Lord, recognizing that you
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  Speaker 8: and I struggle, we're separated from God because of our sin,
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  Speaker 8: that God sent his son, God in the flesh, Jesus,
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  Speaker 8: to die for that sin and to rise again, that
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  Speaker 8: Jesus took our place and rose again.
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  Speaker 3: And And if you or anyone.
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  Speaker 8: Will open their heart to what God has provided, if
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  Speaker 8: you will open your heart, believe what he has done
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  Speaker 8: for you is true, and then rely on that, trust
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  Speaker 8: in that. Take your faith off of your sacraments or
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  Speaker 8: your religiosity or whatever your faith is in and place
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  Speaker 8: it in God's provision for our salvation.
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  Speaker 3: Christ lives. and Christ alone.
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  Speaker 8: Understanding that that comes out of God's steadfast love for
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  Speaker 8: you and I.
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  Speaker 3: Different. You will have hope.
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  Speaker 8: It won't be an easy life necessarily. Your problems won't
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  Speaker 8: go away. But like Jeremiah, you'll be able to say
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  Speaker 8: the steadfast love of the Lord never ceases.
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  Speaker 3: His mercies never come to an end. They're new every morning.
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  Speaker 3: Great is your faithfulness.
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  Speaker 1: And you can count on it. You can take it
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  Speaker 1: to the bank tomorrow and the day after. Um, Jesus
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  Speaker 1: is not changing. He's not leaving. Everyone else in life
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  Speaker 1: might leave there. You might not even be able to
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  Speaker 1: get your kitten to be loyal to you. Like, and
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  Speaker 1: kittens are pretty loyal. I'm just saying this because we
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  Speaker 1: have new kittens in the house, but it's like, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have to worry about, about what Jesus has said.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe it's sacraments and maybe it's religiosity, or
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's just anger and frustration that you're holding onto
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  Speaker 1: and blaming Jesus. God or other people for what you've experienced.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe those are legitimate gripes and angers. But I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you that God's big enough to handle it.
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  Speaker 1: There is no sin. There is no path. There is
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  Speaker 1: no frustration. There is no desperation. There is nothing that
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  Speaker 1: is too big that he can't overcome on your behalf.
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  Speaker 3: And he has.
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  Speaker 1: And he wants you to know his peace today. Dave Watson,
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  Speaker 1: real quickly, this Sunday, what are you teaching on at
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  Speaker 1: Calvary Chapel, Staten Island?
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  Speaker 8: Verse 5 through 2 chapter to the second chapter the
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  Speaker 8: second verse we're going to be talking about really the
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  Speaker 8: benefits of our relationship with God and how to keep
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  Speaker 8: those benefits going how to enjoy them every single day.
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  Speaker 1: And if you can't get there in person listen online
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  Speaker 1: at WMCA.com from anywhere around the world you can tune
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  Speaker 1: in at what time exactly Dave.
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  Speaker 8: 1130 Eastern Standard Time.
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  Speaker 3: We're on from 1130 to, believe.
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  Speaker 8: It or not, 1240.
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  Speaker 3: You get an hour and 10 minutes of us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and having been there and worshipped with Calvary Chapel
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  Speaker 1: several times, I strongly, strongly encourage you to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Watson, thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Kevin. God bless you. Have a
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  Speaker 3: great rest of the week. Same.
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  Speaker 11: He told me, he said, Michael, I lost 100 family
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  Speaker 11: members in the Vietnam War. Some of those were civilians.
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  Speaker 11: Some of those were soldiers. But he said all of
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  Speaker 11: this happened right near where I met him, Kevin. That
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  Speaker 11: was Ho Chi Minh City, right? And this man has
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  Speaker 11: led about 100 people to Christ in his small, remote village, again,
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  Speaker 11: in a communist country that recently opened its doors to
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  Speaker 11: to the gospel.
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  Speaker 3: And I love what he says.
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  Speaker 11: He likens the Bible to a map, right? He says
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  Speaker 11: a map directs us places, right? In this case, the
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  Speaker 11: Bible directs us to all that's true, right? But share this,
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  Speaker 11: and then I want to come back and talk more
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  Speaker 11: about this man, Ming. He is in Vietnam.
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  Speaker 12: If they don't have Bible, how they can find the truth?
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  Speaker 12: Because the Bible like a map to bring them to
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  Speaker 12: find the truth. So if they don't have a map,
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  Speaker 12: they couldn't find any truth. So it is very special
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  Speaker 12: opportunity that the Lord answer our prayer. Our country open
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  Speaker 12: the door for the gospel. And many people, they are
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  Speaker 12: really hungry for the word of God. And then they
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  Speaker 12: need the Bible.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Kevin, you in the last segment alluded to, you know,
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  Speaker 11: where do you go for comfort and direction, right? The Psalms, right?
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  Speaker 11: I mean, if we can ascertain that King David relied
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  Speaker 11: on the scriptures, right, to help him, you know, kind
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  Speaker 11: of realign his perspective with the Lord's. We need that,
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  Speaker 11: don't we? In fact, you know, when I'm anxious, Kevin,
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  Speaker 11: I go to the Psalms, right? Psalm 4 says, It's
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: in your peace that I will live, David writes. You know,
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  Speaker 11: when I'm tired, Isaiah 40 says what? He gives power
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  Speaker 11: to the weak and strength to the powerless. You know,
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  Speaker 11: when I'm lonely, it's Psalm 73, right? Lord, I belong
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  Speaker 11: to you and you hold my hand. When I need wisdom,
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  Speaker 11: right path, Lord. You know, if you're feeling unloved, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 11: go to where? Zephaniah 3, you find out that what?
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  Speaker 11: God delights in you with gladness. He rejoices over you.
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  Speaker 11: with joyful songs. Let me just give you three of
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  Speaker 11: those right now that are praying for Bibles today. Dorcas
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: is a widowed mother of three, lives near Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. Sadly,
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: her husband was murdered by the El Shabab terrorist cell
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  Speaker 11: that absolutely hates Christianity. She received Christ after walking two
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  Speaker 11: hours each way to an evangelistic meeting that was led
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  Speaker 11: by Bible League Kevin. And today she is praying for
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  Speaker 11: a Bible. Praveen is near New Delhi, India, was beaten
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  Speaker 11: by Hindu extremists after being led to Jesus by a
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  Speaker 11: pastor in his small village there in the country of India.
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  Speaker 11: He's married to Chandra. They have three children. They're praying
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  Speaker 11: for a Hindi language Bible to lead the family in
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  Speaker 11: the ways of the Lord. And then as it relates
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  Speaker 11: to us, I'm thinking of, you know, most of us
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  Speaker 11: know John 316, right? That's blowing in the end zones of,
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  Speaker 11: you know, college football games across the nation this time
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  Speaker 11: of the year. How many of us know 1 John 3, 16?
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  Speaker 11: You know, John writes, he said, this is how we
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  Speaker 11: know what love is. Jesus laid down his life for us,
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  Speaker 11: and we ought to lay down our lives for our
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  Speaker 11: brothers and sisters. John goes on, if anyone with a
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  Speaker 11: means to help sees a brother or sister in need,
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  Speaker 11: but shows no pity on them, how can the love
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  Speaker 11: of God be in that person, John asked. So he says,
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  Speaker 11: dear children, let us love not with words or speech,
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  Speaker 11: but in truth and in action. And Kevin, I'm grateful
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  Speaker 11: I don't have to come and try to convict this
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  Speaker 11: listening family of giving. My goodness, we just talked about
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  Speaker 11: in more than 20 years of kingdom partnership, more than
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  Speaker 11: half a million waiting believers now have God's word. As
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  Speaker 11: I say, they're using those to make much of him
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  Speaker 11: to point others to the hope of the gospel. But
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  Speaker 11: there you have two families, one on the continent of Africa,
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: another in the region of Asia, not praying for our
• 26:34
  Speaker 11: pity or our protection today, but for what? It's the
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  Speaker 11: precious word of God.
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  Speaker 13: We just had a plane crash into the upper floor
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  Speaker 13: of the World Trade Center.
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  Speaker 5: That's confirmed.
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  Speaker 7: We have fire on several floors, the upper floors of
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  Speaker 7: the World Trade Center.
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  Speaker 8: An airplane has crashed into the World Trade Center.
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  Speaker 3: This just into our newsroom. A plane has crashed into
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  Speaker 3: the World Trade Center. There appears to be a gaping hole.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, there it goes.
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  Speaker 5: There it goes.
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  Speaker 4: There it goes.
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  Speaker 8: The World Trade Center has collapsed.
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  Speaker 14: No one in the room has collapsed.
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  Speaker 6: Okay. And welcome back to That Kevin Show, as.
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  Speaker 15: We remember 9-11 25 years to the day.
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  Speaker 16: When the night seems to say.
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  Speaker 4: All hope is lost.
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  Speaker 6: Gone away But I know I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Not alone By the light.
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  Speaker 3: She stands.
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  Speaker 4: She stands Then she.
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  Speaker 5: Waves Faithful friend Shimmering stars Just when you think it
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  Speaker 5: might be over Just when you think the fight is.
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  Speaker 17: Gone Someone will risk his life to raise.
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  Speaker 4: Her There she stands.
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  Speaker 6: There she flies. Clear blue sky.
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  Speaker 4: Reminds us with red of.
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  Speaker 6: Those that die. In their stream.
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  Speaker 17: When evil calls itself a martyr When all your.
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  Speaker 5: Hopes come crashing down Someone will.
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  Speaker 6: Pull you from the rubble.
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  Speaker 5: Then she stands We've.
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  Speaker 17: Seen her flying torn and tattered We've seen her stand
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  Speaker 17: the test of time And through it all.
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  Speaker 5: The fools have fallen.
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  Speaker 4: Then she stands And through the fight, she stands.
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  Speaker 1: You're listening to a special edition of That Kevin Show,
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  Speaker 1: September 11th, 25 years later. I'm Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: You say you'll never forget where you were when you
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  Speaker 2: heard the news on September 11th, 2001.
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  Speaker 4: Neither will I.
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  Speaker 2: I was on the 110th floor in a smoke-filled room
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  Speaker 2: with a man who called his wife to say goodbye.
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  Speaker 2: I held his fingers steady as he dialed. I gave
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  Speaker 2: him the piece to say, Honey, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: make it.
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  Speaker 3: But it's okay. I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: I was with his wife when he called as she
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: fed breakfast to their children. I held her up as
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: she tried to understand his words. And as she realized
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he wasn't coming home that night. I was in the
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: stairwell of the 23rd floor when a woman cried out
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  Speaker 2: to me for help. I've been knocking on the door
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  Speaker 2: of your heart for 50 years. I said, of course
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you the way home. Only believe in me now.
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  Speaker 2: I was at the base of the building when the
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  Speaker 2: priest ministered to the injured and devastated souls. I took
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  Speaker 2: him home to tend his flock in heaven. He heard
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  Speaker 2: my voice and answered. I was on all four of
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  Speaker 2: those planes in every seat with every prayer. I was
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: with the crew as they were overtaken. I was in
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  Speaker 2: the very hearts of the believers there comforting and assuring
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  Speaker 2: them that their faith has saved them. I was in
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  Speaker 2: Texas Kansas London I was standing next to you when
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  Speaker 2: you heard the terrible news did you sense me? I
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: want you to know that I saw every face I
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  Speaker 2: knew every name though not all know me some met
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  Speaker 2: me for the first time on the 86th floor some
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  Speaker 2: sought me with their last breath some couldn't hear me
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  Speaker 2: calling to them through the smoke and flames come to
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  Speaker 2: me this way take my hand some chose for the
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  Speaker 2: final time to ignore me but I was there I
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  Speaker 2: did not place you in the tower that day You
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  Speaker 2: may not know why, but I do. However, if you
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  Speaker 2: were there in that explosive moment in time, would you
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  Speaker 2: have reached for me?
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  Speaker 5: September 11th, 2001 was not the end of.
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  Speaker 4: The journey for you.
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  Speaker 2: But someday your journey will end and I'll be there
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  Speaker 2: for you as well. Seek me now while I may
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  Speaker 2: be found. Then, at any moment, you know you're ready
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  Speaker 2: to go. I will be in the stairwell of your
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  Speaker 2: final moments. Remember, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things I have worried about as the
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  Speaker 1: last 25 years have come and gone is just how
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  Speaker 1: quickly our nation might forget about what happened on this
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  Speaker 1: day a quarter of a century ago. I forget about it.
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  Speaker 1: Not completely. You can't if you lived through it. But
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: most of the year I don't think about September 11.
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  Speaker 1: And then September comes. And there it is. The second plane.
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  Speaker 1: I remember watching it hit. Not the replay, not the
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  Speaker 1: multitude of replays, but the actual moment that it happened.
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  Speaker 1: The first plane had left rooms for questions.
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  Speaker 3: An accident?
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  Speaker 1: Something going wrong? Terribly wrong? But the second plane answered them,
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  Speaker 1: and we were under attack. I remember the bodies. I
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  Speaker 1: hate even saying that. People falling from buildings because whatever
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  Speaker 1: was behind them was worse than whatever was outside the
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  Speaker 1: open window. And 25 years later, I forced myself to
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  Speaker 1: watch the footage. I remember the towers coming down. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: remember staring at the television trying to understand what I
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: was seeing. Buildings that had been part of the New
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  Speaker 1: York skyline were just gone. And I remember something else,
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  Speaker 1: something most people probably don't know about my September 11th,
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  Speaker 1: the day before I had just gotten my first talk show.
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  Speaker 1: september 10th so much for easing into the job my
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  Speaker 1: second day as host terrorist attacked the united states and
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: i ended up being on the air for 18 hours
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  Speaker 1: i had a live microphone in front of me while
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  Speaker 1: i was trying to process exactly the same thing everybody
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  Speaker 1: else was listening and trying to process but what do
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  Speaker 1: you say in those moments I genuinely didn't know. We
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: took calls. Some people cried. I cried. We prayed. And
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: underneath all of it was a question I don't think
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: people who weren't old enough to experience that day can
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: completely understand. But we asked the rest of the day,
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  Speaker 1: was it over? Were there more planes, more targets, more
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: people waiting to attack? Nobody really knew the answer. Fighter
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: jets were over American cities and airports went silent. And
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  Speaker 1: for weeks after, a low-flying airplane could make you a
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: little nervous in a way it never had before. That's
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  Speaker 1: difficult to explain now. Before September 11th, airplanes were just airplanes.
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  Speaker 1: Then they weren't. And somewhere in those awful days, something
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: else happened that I haven't seen quite the same way since.
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  Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats walked out onto the steps of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: United States Capitol together and sang God Bless America. They
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: weren't very good. Some of them stumbled over the words.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody cared about that. For a few minutes, they
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: weren't Republicans or Democrats. They were Americans. Churches filled up, too.
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  Speaker 1: People prayed who hadn't prayed in years, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: say that critically, quite the opposite. Sometimes you discover what
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  Speaker 1: you believe when you've run out of everything else to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: hold on to. And I remember going to my church
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  Speaker 1: that night, and the place was packed. We were scared
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  Speaker 1: and angry and grieving. But for a little while, we
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  Speaker 1: were together. It didn't last. Of course it didn't last.
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  Speaker 1: We're human.
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  Speaker 4: But it happened.
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  Speaker 6: It happened.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the part I don't want to forget. We
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: came together. 25 years later. Somehow, we made it through
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that togetherness. That's what September does to me. For 11 months,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I think I've put it somewhere. In a back pocket
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: or in tucked away memory. And then September comes around.
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  Speaker 1: And I realize I haven't forgotten nearly as much as
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I thought I had. And today we will not forget,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: but we will remember. It's That Kevin Show.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you back with us.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: It is kind of a surreal day to think that
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: 25 years have passed since I was standing in my
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  Speaker 1: little condo unit in the western suburbs of Chicago. My
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: eyes trained to my television, which was in my bedroom.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: I had a little desk and working area in my bedroom.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And after the first plane had gone into Tower 2,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: my sister radio station, which did not have a news department,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: working for Salem Media there in Chicago, the 106.7 The Fish,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the FM music station morning show, needed... news reports because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: this plane having crashed into the first tower was so
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: unusual and it was becoming a national story within just
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: minutes of it happening. And so I offered to stand
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: by for them and to watch the news and anything
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: that needed to be reported on that was significant. We
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: would we would break in with their show and do
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the breaks and give them the up to the date
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: up to date info. And while I'm literally on the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: phone with them doing a live report, I see the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: second plane and I see it enter the building and
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the fireball that comes out the other side. And it
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: was just something that, you know, I said in the monologue,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I try to tuck these things away and not really
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: think about them for most of the year. And then
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: around September 1st through September 11th, I'm just tortured by,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you know, remembering and reliving things. Kind of hit home
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: especially hard last night for me because after I got
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: in from the scene conference and went and picked up
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: my daughter, she had just studied 9-11 for the first
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: time in class yesterday and had some experiences with the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: videos that she hadn't seen before and had some anxiety
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: about the future and what it all looks like. And
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I think of that and I tie that back to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: something that I heard from John Piper this week at
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the scene conference. Kevin McCullough, by the way, thanks for
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: being here. So John Piper told the incredible story of
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: William Tyndale and his translation of about three-fourths of the
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Bible that he did on his own way before Bible
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: translation was cool or hip. In fact, he lost his
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: life for it. He was able to translate the entire
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: New Testament, but the Old Testament he only got about
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: halfway through. And that 75% of the scripture became the
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: basis for the Geneva Bible, the English Standard Bible, and
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: the King James Bible, which was the eventual translation that
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: most of your modern day translations are patterned after, not
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: translated from, but they seek to imitate what the King
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: James did. And making God's word available for every man.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But what was the reason that William Tyndale was punished
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: for that? Why was he put to death for that?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Isn't it a good thing to have the Bible in
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the language of the masses? Well, akin to the terrorists
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: of 9-11, people that oppose what the Bible says will
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: go to any length necessary to stop it. And while
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Tyndale died in a miserable, excruciating death, After suffering in
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: prison for 14 years in conditions that were so utterly abysmal,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. But
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that experience for him, the reason it was carried out
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: was because he was suffering for what was true. The
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: people that attacked us on 9-11 attack us because we
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: dare to say that their way of life is not true,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: that their religion is not true, that their faith is
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: not true. that their scriptures are not true. It's not
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: enough for them to be ecumenical of mind and allow
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: all people to exist and to say, let's go along
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to get along.
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: No.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: What they believe, what they hold in their heart, is
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: that if you do not agree with them, then you
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: are the enemy. You are the evil one. And like
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: the authorities of William Tyndale's day, the solution to it
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: is death. And that's why the clerics in Iran chant
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: death to America. That's why they chant death to Israel.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: The people who love the Bible are the problem in
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: their mind. And that's just one of the reasons, friends,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: why every believer that is in an Islamic country that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: wants a copy of God's word, I want to help
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: them get God's word in abundance. That's why we partner
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: with the Bible League. That's why I asked you to
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: call 1-800-937-9673. And today, if you give a gift to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the Bible League for what we are doing, it will
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: be matched Bible for Bible. Yesterday, we had 108 Bibles,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: 180 Bibles that were contributed. The day before, 485. Friends,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: that's huge. But we are still closing in on about
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: 4,500 Bibles away. from where we need to be at
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the end of the month. And so I need a
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: bunch of you to say, what can I do to help? If,
• 48:40
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  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to 9-11, 25 years to the day later.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us. In my
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: archive of conversations I've had with people from 9-11, none
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: was more visual and visceral than former police chief Bernie Carrick.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: We lost him this last year and was honored to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: attend his his memorial and his funeral. But I wanted
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you to hear his story of just how harrowing it
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was from his perspective on the day of 9-11.
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  Speaker 18: In the morning, early in the morning, I was in
• 50:34
  Speaker 18: my office from the first plane at Tower 1. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 18: by time, the second plane struck Tower 2 and slammed
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  Speaker 18: through the north side of that building that was standing
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  Speaker 18: in front of it. I had gone downtown to meet
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  Speaker 18: with the mayor and We were going to meet at
• 50:50
  Speaker 18: the temporary, at the emergency command center for the city,
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  Speaker 18: which was in Southern World Trade, but I couldn't get
• 50:57
  Speaker 18: into the building because people were actually jumping from the
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  Speaker 18: top of Tower 1. I was waiting for the mayor
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  Speaker 18: when the second plane slammed through the north side of
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  Speaker 18: Tower 2, and then finally met up with the mayor
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  Speaker 18: about three or four minutes later when he arrived.
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  Speaker 1: The next number of minutes were quite harrowing. You guys
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  Speaker 1: were actually, when the towers came down, you actually got
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: kind of blocked in. Describe that portion of your story
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  Speaker 1: that day.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, the mayor wanted to call the president. We were
• 51:31
  Speaker 18: looking for air support. We wanted to make sure there
• 51:35
  Speaker 18: was air control, that they were controlling the airspace around
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  Speaker 18: New York City. We didn't know how many more planes
• 51:42
  Speaker 18: were in the air targeting New York, if any. And
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  Speaker 18: I took the mayor into a small office at 75
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  Speaker 18: Barclay Street, where he was on the phone with The
• 51:55
  Speaker 18: White House waiting for the president. They told him the
• 51:59
  Speaker 18: president was a dare. The vice president was going to
• 52:01
  Speaker 18: come to the phone. And about two minutes later, somebody
• 52:05
  Speaker 18: came back on the phone and they said, Mr. Mayor,
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  Speaker 18: we can't. We're going to have to hang up. They're
• 52:11
  Speaker 18: evacuating the White House. And they think that the Pentagon
• 52:15
  Speaker 18: just got hit. And as they said that to him,
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  Speaker 18: the building we were in began to shake like a
• 52:21
  Speaker 18: freight train was coming through the side of it. And
• 52:24
  Speaker 18: basically what that was was Tower 2 was imploding. We
• 52:28
  Speaker 18: were only two blocks north of that building. So the
• 52:32
  Speaker 18: windows started blowing out. We got smothered with this shit
• 52:37
  Speaker 18: and dust and gas and stuff. And we actually got
• 52:41
  Speaker 18: trapped in that building for about 20, 25 minutes. We
• 52:43
  Speaker 18: couldn't get out.
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  Speaker 1: When you did get out, you emerged into a new world,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Bernie Carrick, and the next number of days were kind
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: of critical for Governor Pataki made the decision instead of
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: having two different command stations that he would just bring
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: his place to you. The feds decided to do the
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: same thing and everything was being run from lower Manhattan.
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: Talk about what the difficulties were over the next several
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: hours to days as you had to figure out if
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: this was going to be the end of it or
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: if there was more coming.
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  Speaker 18: Well, you know, honestly, Kevin, that's a great, great question,
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  Speaker 18: especially about the coordination between the feds and the state authorities.
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  Speaker 18: You know, I've watched, I don't know, two dozen, three
• 53:38
  Speaker 18: dozen crises over the last 20 years handled by organizations
• 53:44
  Speaker 18: in this country, including the feds, including the military. I'm
• 53:48
  Speaker 18: going to tell you something. Our successes in overseeing the response,
• 53:53
  Speaker 18: the rescue, the recovery, and the investigation on and in
• 53:58
  Speaker 18: the aftermath of 9-11, in addition to managing the city,
• 54:03
  Speaker 18: in addition to keeping the city safe, it was all
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  Speaker 18: as a result of enormously strong leadership by the mayor,
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  Speaker 18: additions by the governor, by the people from the White House,
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  Speaker 18: by the feds. But the mayor, ultimately, was responsible for
• 54:22
  Speaker 18: the city of New York. It was our responsibility. The
• 54:26
  Speaker 18: governor was there every step of the way, augmenting anything
• 54:31
  Speaker 18: we needed, no matter what it was. Most times at
• 54:34
  Speaker 18: our daily three or four crisis management meetings, every day,
• 54:39
  Speaker 18: the governor was there or his representative was there. And
• 54:43
  Speaker 18: the thing that came out of that for me was,
• 54:46
  Speaker 18: when you coordinate.
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  Speaker 18: We're state and federal partners. Anything could be done. But
• 54:54
  Speaker 18: that is rarely seen today. There's still a lack of intel, cooperation, communication.
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  Speaker 18: Nobody's ever done it. Nobody. Like we did it on
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  Speaker 18: September 11th in the aftermath. And I think that was
• 55:13
  Speaker 18: really to our success. I've only talked about this recently,
• 55:19
  Speaker 18: but on October 7th, 2001, I was on the way
• 55:23
  Speaker 18: to a Yankee game to meet the mayor in the evening.
• 55:27
  Speaker 18: And the mayor called my car. As soon as I
• 55:29
  Speaker 18: got in the car, he called and he said the words,
• 55:33
  Speaker 18: it's happening. And I had no idea what he was
• 55:36
  Speaker 18: talking about. And I said, what's happening? What are you
• 55:38
  Speaker 18: talking about? He said, I just got a call from
• 55:41
  Speaker 18: President Bush. He said he would let us know if
• 55:45
  Speaker 18: he wanted me to call you and tell you what's happening.
• 55:49
  Speaker 18: And what was happening was that we were going into Afghanistan.
• 55:52
  Speaker 18: The president told the mayor and I on September 14th,
• 55:57
  Speaker 18: when we do this, you're going to be the first
• 55:59
  Speaker 18: to know. I'm going to let you know. And he did.
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  Speaker 18: So I diverted. I didn't go to Yankee Stadium. I
• 56:05
  Speaker 18: went downtown. Me and Joe Dunn and Joe Esposito, my deputies,
• 56:10
  Speaker 18: we basically started securing up the city in the event
• 56:14
  Speaker 18: of any kind of retaliatory attacks. But I swear, with
• 56:20
  Speaker 18: that image in my head of us going into Afghanistan
• 56:24
  Speaker 18: to annihilate the people that attacked our city, to Joe
• 56:29
  Speaker 18: Biden surrendering Afghanistan to the Taliban and then having the
• 56:34
  Speaker 18: audacity to stand up which is chairman of the Joint
• 56:39
  Speaker 18: Chiefs and his press secretary to say, there is a
• 56:42
  Speaker 18: possibility that we can communicate with them and coordinate with
• 56:47
  Speaker 18: them and negotiate with them. Guess what? It's all a farce.
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  Speaker 18: This is an enemy that despises us. This is an
• 56:57
  Speaker 18: enemy that we've been fighting for 20 years. This is
• 57:01
  Speaker 18: an enemy that has killed dozens and dozens of our military, personnel,
• 57:09
  Speaker 18: how could you have the gall to stand up at
• 57:12
  Speaker 18: a press conference and have any, any communications with them
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  Speaker 18: at all? How could you give the Taliban Afghanistan? How
• 57:21
  Speaker 18: could you surrender a country? I don't get it.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: There were things he didn't get, but he sure wasn't
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: afraid to speak truth. Kevin McCullough coming back.
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  Speaker 7: It's That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com. For
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: those of you that would like to go back and
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: revisit any part of it, the podcast is there. My
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: column is there. Starting on the day of the attacks,
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  Speaker 1: 25 years ago, as I was on the air for
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: 18 hours in taking bits of audio from the news
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: cycles that were continually in front of us. We put
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: together this piece that we'll end with today for the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: very first time. The audio that you're about to hear
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: all came from that day as it happened. We eventually
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: gathered visuals and other things and put it together as
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: a film on YouTube. But this was the day as
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: it unfolded and how the president comforted us that night,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: quoting the Psalms. There will come a day by Faith
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  Speaker 1: Hill on That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 13: It is absolutely an appalling day, not only here in Manhattan,
• 58:48
  Speaker 13: but also in Washington, where the Pentagon also was apparently
• 58:52
  Speaker 13: the subject of a strike by one of these hijacked airliners,
• 58:56
  Speaker 13: flying bombs, really.
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  Speaker 9: The Pentagon still very much on fire.
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  Speaker 3: The damage there, perhaps not.
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  Speaker 13: As severe as it is at the World Trade Center,
• 59:06
  Speaker 13: but clearly America is under attack.
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  Speaker 18: It's not.
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  Speaker 12: Easy trying to understand how the world can be so cold.
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  Speaker 15: Our police department, our fire.
• 59:25
  Speaker 17: Department, and our emergency people.
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  Speaker 15: Are being stretched to the limit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we've also lost a significant number of them.
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  Speaker 6: Wars are raging. Lives are scattered. Innocence is lost. And
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: hopes are shattered. The old are forgotten. The children are forsaken.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: In this world we're living in, is there any hope?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 15: There's a better place where I'll find a way.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: And every tear.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 15: You wipe away. The darkness will be gone.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: The weak shall be strong.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 15: Hold on to your faith. There will come a day.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: There will come The loss of life is going to
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: be very great indeed.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 13: Many of the important institutions here in Chicago shut down
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 13: as a result of the United States terrorist acts that
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 13: have occurred.
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  Speaker 16: The victims were in airplanes or in their offices. Secretaries,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 16: businessmen and women, military and federal workers, moms and dads,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 16: friends and neighbors.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: You prepare for the worst, but you don't believe it'll happen.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 11: And this is the worst.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 15: Street the voices of earth the angels will.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: Sing every knee will.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 15: Bow sin will have no trace and the glory of
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 15: his amazing.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 14: Grace Across the way, the construction workers just hung their
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 14: signs outside. God bless America and pray for families and victims.
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  Speaker 16: And I pray they will be comforted by a power
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 16: greater than any of us, spoken through the ages in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 16: Psalm 23. Even though I walk through the valley of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 16: the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for you
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 16: are with me.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you.