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Chuck & Buck 2-24 Hour 4: Spring training lessons pt 4, NFL News & Notes and one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: For nine o'clock hour Chuck and Ashley with you No
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: Bucky Jacobson here today or throughout the week? Did you
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: smell the thing to smell? Yeah, like like middle of
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: like two segments ago. I'm like, what is that smell?
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Did you discover what it was?
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: No, I still haven't discovered what it was bad, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it was food. But it smelled.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: Like post food, like post food, post post food, like
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  Speaker 2: it was food that is no longer edible once.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Food but the.
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  Speaker 2: And then you ate it. Yeah, body did its job.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but not south back up oven. Yeah. I didn't
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: want to like just blurt it out there, but yeah,
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: smell like puke.
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  Speaker 2: It's not great.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't smell that.
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  Speaker 2: No, I did not.
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  Speaker 1: I smelled that, And I'm like, I'm I'm sitting here
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: like in the middle of the segment light, where is
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: that coming?
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: You smelled it in there? Yeah, that's got to be
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  Speaker 2: a strong smell.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, did I step in something? I'm checking my
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: shoes in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Of the ever it fits you interview barf in the garbage.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Maybe I walked through something. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, but it turns out somebody was making
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: some sort of food, and I can't imagine that it
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  Speaker 1: was all that delicious.
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  Speaker 2: That is not a good endorsement.
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  Speaker 1: No food now. Uh, you don't see many store fronts
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  Speaker 1: promoting the aroma of regurgitation.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: No, they're not, like, hey, come on, in all the vomit,
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  Speaker 2: you can handle it.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't see Glade make that air freshener.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: Thank goodness. I'd probably have to buy it just to
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  Speaker 2: see what it smelled like once.
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  Speaker 1: I still kind of smell it, though, Really you don't
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  Speaker 1: smell it, Yeah.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Smell could you tell? I was really trying to give
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  Speaker 2: it a good.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it was good. It was a wolf like.
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  Speaker 2: Make me choke. No, I cannot smell it at all.
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay, maybe it's just in my head. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure anyone. The air is clear now. It is Chuck.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: It is Buck Chuck and Ashley. Bucky is not here,
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: and it's a good thing he's not here because he's
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  Speaker 1: going to disagree with what myself and Cal Raleigh are
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  Speaker 1: saying about the new challenge system in Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: So I am on the side with Cal, and my
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  Speaker 1: opinion came first Cal. But during our spring training coverage
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: we did ask cal about how they're going to handle
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: it going forward, and I believe he started in discussing it,
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: talking about what it's going to be like from a
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: hitter's standpoint. Here's cal Raleigh and his belief on how
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  Speaker 1: the new challenge system, the ball strike challenge system in baseball,
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  Speaker 1: that will be the talk of the sport for a
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: portion of the beginning of the year. Here's him talking
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  Speaker 1: about what he expects.
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  Speaker 3: My first initial thoughts coming off of last year, you know, no,
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  Speaker 3: like making the obvious ones, like all right, that's definitely
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  Speaker 3: a strike challenging. And then the thing you also just
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  Speaker 3: gotta be smart, like he can't be taking risks and
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  Speaker 3: the first inning with nobody on base, and uh, you
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  Speaker 3: know a one oh counts that's completely different than seventh
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  Speaker 3: inning bases loaded, you know, three to two count That's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, it's completely different. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it's all just context. It's game awareness, game situation understanding
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  Speaker 3: that trying to save him towards the end. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard other teams talk about, oh, you need it's
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: more valuable if you use it early on. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to be left with them it's just that's the
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  Speaker 3: analytics part of it, and I just don't know if
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  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we'll see how it plays out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I trust our guys, you know, I trust
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  Speaker 3: our in the box, and you know, to me, it's
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  Speaker 3: just like, if it's egregious, challenge it, if it's borderline
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  Speaker 3: and it's not that important part of the game, then
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 1: It is what it is.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta you gotta take one for the team. You
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  Speaker 3: gotta be a good, good team player. So that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of how I'm gonna approach it.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, off from the picture catcher standpoint, though.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, I don't know some I've.
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  Speaker 1: Heard are you gonna get angry if WU challenges and
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  Speaker 1: is wrong when you didn't want to challenge?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I so I've heard. I've heard different things.
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  Speaker 3: People are like, you know, we don't let our pictures challenge.
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  Speaker 3: Other people are like, you know, you know, if you
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  Speaker 3: want a challenge, you can. To me, it's just about
• 4:39
  Speaker 3: emotion and ego. You can't let emotion. You can't let
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  Speaker 3: ego get in the way just because you want to
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  Speaker 3: strike out or just because you thought it was a strike.
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  Speaker 3: But in reality, you know you're challenging and it's the
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  Speaker 3: fourth inning. It's not an important moment. You just it's
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  Speaker 3: an ego because you want to strike out. It's just
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  Speaker 3: like it's just an understanding situation and being very very
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  Speaker 3: certain to me, especially early on the game, so you know,
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  Speaker 3: I won't say anything.
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  Speaker 1: They get it right, Cal Raley. That was from last
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  Speaker 1: week talking about the challenge system. I'm with him on this.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky doesn't feel this way. Really, I do believe you're
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  Speaker 1: going to have to set parameters now. Maybe because it's
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  Speaker 1: brand new, we'll work up to setting those parameters. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: we won't have parameters at the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: You'll have to see what happens, see what out the water, get.
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  Speaker 1: The information, and then react accordingly. But Cal's opinion on
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  Speaker 1: it is and they were talking about it yesterday during
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers broadcast of the spring training game, and Cal's
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: opinion of it is that we need to save them
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  Speaker 1: like for later in the game or certainly for situational baseball.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where I'm at. I mean, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to speak for a bucket, but we've had several different conversations.
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  Speaker 1: My impression of it is that he's more of anybody
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: can challenge, but you better be right sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel that way.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I feel at first, first it has to start with situationally. Yesterday, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to yesterday. At a moment, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: anybody challenging with the bases empty, two outs down, oh one.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if the umpire screwed it up or not.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody challenging because odds are later in
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  Speaker 1: the game, we're gonna have a situation where it's second
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  Speaker 1: and third, two outs ahead, you know, three to two
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  Speaker 1: count or two to two count, and we are going
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  Speaker 1: to need it at that moment. And so I think
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: it's situational at least, parameters have to be set situationally
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: when you're at the plate, just talking about at the plate.
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  Speaker 1: At first, I actually think Ashley and this is truly
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm not taking him out of context for this,
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  Speaker 1: where Bucket and I disagree. I think by the as
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  Speaker 1: it evolves, there are only going to be a certain
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: number of players are going to be even allowed to challenge. Now,
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: there will be situations where that was a ball, it
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: walked in a run and kept a rally going yes,
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  Speaker 1: then anybody can use it, But I do believe it
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  Speaker 1: will be defined as to win and where and who
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  Speaker 1: is going to be allowed to challenge? Because if I
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: burned two calls early because Andrew Kissner is sure those
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: are balls and strikes, and then I'm in the seventh
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: inning and I got bases loaded and they blew a
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  Speaker 1: call with col at the plate and I can't challenge it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to me, that's malpractice of a brand new system.
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  Speaker 1: So I do believe I'm with cal on this. I
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  Speaker 1: think there's going to be strategy involved with this usage
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  Speaker 1: of this. It's not just as easy as that's a
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  Speaker 1: wrong call and I want it challenged. Right, that can't happen,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't that that can happen even early in
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: the season. I don't need information to know that. That's
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  Speaker 1: not how we are going to use our too precious
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  Speaker 1: challenges this year.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you can let people have some fun, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like they were justin or Jerry was joking that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Randy Rosearina can't challenge because he's been doing it and
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  Speaker 2: he's getting him wrong early on, Oh, test it out,
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  Speaker 2: see how they do. But once that's once the season starts,
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  Speaker 2: and unless it's I think the only situation early in
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  Speaker 2: the game that you should be using it is if
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: in the first or second inning, you've got the bases
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  Speaker 2: loaded and you know getting a walk is going to
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  Speaker 2: bring in a run because you want that run. And
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  Speaker 2: then and then at that point that's worth the risk.
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  Speaker 2: If you get it wrong, you get it wrong, but
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  Speaker 2: at least you were using it in the situation that
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  Speaker 2: was going to be advantageous to you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, or if you get a strike and you
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  Speaker 1: struck out, but the calls wrong in the basis, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, and then you get and so now you get
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  Speaker 2: the walk, you get the run, yes, or.
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  Speaker 1: Either way, like even if if you can just stay
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  Speaker 1: at the plate with the bases loads.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And so I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's it makes me nervous to think the idea that like,
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  Speaker 2: well we can anyone can challenge it at any given time,
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  Speaker 2: because as much as I realize, you know, they're not
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: like timeouts, you're not gonna take them with you to
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  Speaker 2: the next game. So then that since they are, but
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  Speaker 2: you don't need to burn them early if you use it,
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  Speaker 2: if you go through a whole game and you never
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  Speaker 2: used one. Okay, then you never never used one. That's okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's not poor clock management. You know, that's not poor
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  Speaker 2: game management. You should make sure though, that you always
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  Speaker 2: have at least one when you're went into the eighth
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  Speaker 2: the ninth inning of a game, especially a close game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I mean, just to clarify for Bucky's
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  Speaker 1: point of view, he's not saying anybody should be able
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  Speaker 1: to challenge it anytime. That's not what he has said. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but I do believe he's not, like Cal told us,
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  Speaker 1: like it needs to be saved for your big run producers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the let's just take it away
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  Speaker 1: from the Mariners. If you're the Yankees and you've got
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  Speaker 1: your nine hole hitter using a challenge in the second
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: inning with a runner at first, what do you not
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: realize ninety nine is on our team, Yeah, and we
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: might need that for him later on in the game.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, there is a theory that you just use
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: them when it's right, when it's right to use them.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way that it should be
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  Speaker 1: done or will be done when by the time this
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: thing's done evolving I think there will be specific times
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  Speaker 1: to use it, yes and no. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you're going to keep it because it's a really
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: quick reaction touch of the head. That's why Jerry said,
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: Randy Rose Arena doesn't get the challenge, because they're probably
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: going to have to tell people you don't even get
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: the right to challenge because you're not good at it,
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: or you're not as good enough hitter. And so let's
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: get to what happened yesterday. Andrew Kissner's catching yesterday, our
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: backup catcher might not even be our backup catcher. We'll
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: see it's going to be a battle between him and Garb.
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: It looks like and he challenged three calls in the
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: first three innings, two behind the plate and one while
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: he was at the plate. Andrew Kisner right backup catch. Well,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: he was right on the two where he was behind
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  Speaker 1: the plate. So my thinking was, all right, this is
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  Speaker 1: his He's only going to play like three or four innings.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: It's spring training, and so he needs to practice. So
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: my guess is they probably allowed him the opportunity to
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: practice that, and he was two for two. He was
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: two for two, and he's probably going to be pretty
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: good at it. Like I've said all off season, he
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: is more of a classic backup catcher type if they
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: end up going with him versus Scarver, and so, yeah,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: I think he needs the practice, so I'm not going
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: to look too much into it. But then in the
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: third inning he was at the plate and he challenged,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: he challenged again, and this time he was wrong.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: And here's my reaction right now to that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: need any more evidence. Andrew Kissner never gets the challenge ever.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: There is an exception if it produces a run, or
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: if there's two outs in the bases loaded and you
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: struck out and you challenge it and it gives you
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: another chance at the plate to try to drive it.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: There are certainly exceptions, but Andrew Kisner in the third
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: inning with nobody on base, never ever, ever gets to
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: challenge a ball or strike call for the potential of
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  Speaker 1: burning one that could be more effective later in the
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: game and a better situation with a better hitter. That's
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: not why you're here, Bud. You are here to back
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: up cal Rawley. You are here to receive. And so
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: he's just not a good enough hitter to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And if oh my gosh, if he challenges one and
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: is wrong and he burns, oh, you're paying a fine.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah at that point. So look, I know that there
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: will be a process that Dan and Jerry and Justin,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: with Cal's involvement, they're gonna work through. But I really
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: do think that by the end of this first season,
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: cal Raley will be the only person that will challenge
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: balls and strikes calls when he's behind the plate. I
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: don't think they're going to get the pictures. Yeah, I
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: think George is too emotional, and if Kissner's good at it,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: then he will be the only one.
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  Speaker 2: And Bryce said he's not good at it.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, by the end of the year, I think
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: it will be the catcher's sole responsibility on this team. Yeah,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna have the same philosophy, but on this team,
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: it'll be the catcher's sole responsibility to challenge while on
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: defense all balls and strikes calls. I think the right
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: of the pitcher will be totally ripped from their grasp.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: And then from a hitting standpoint, Yes, early on, you're
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: gonna give people the benefit of the doubt. You're gonna
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: test the waters, You're gonna dip your toe in all
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: of that sort of thing. But by the end of
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: the year, when it really counts, I think they will
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: have to developed a strategy of win and who. I
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: think that's very important. Who's going to be able to challenge?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think Bucky feels that way, and I think
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: that's the baseball player in him. What if I'm not
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: one of those guys?
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  Speaker 2: What my challenges should be just as good as everybody else.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Right, my challenge should be just as valuable, should have
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: been just as valuable as Edgar's, or whatever the case
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: may be. I don't believe that. I don't think this
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: is just a you know, everybody's fair and equal, because
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: they're not so to me.
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  Speaker 2: In it.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: And so for Cal to say that it's nice to
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: have Cal on my side in an argument against Bucky,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: because he never wants to disagree with Cal, But with
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: KL on my side, he's he's already saying it. We
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: haven't even late a major league game with the system
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: in place, and here's cal Rawley already saying, no, we
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: can't just challenge when we want it when they're wrong.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: We have to challenge when it might benefit us the most.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: And so that's what I think will be developed by
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: year's end. Uh, and Cal's going to benefit greatly because
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I want him to have one of the calls when
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: they're on defense and then at the plate. I want
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: a challenge kept in the back pocket in every game
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: for situation plus the person standing at the plate taking
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: that into account. And that could certainly be him, that
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: could be Julio, that could be I mean, that could
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: be Donovant in the situation. But I'll tell you it's
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: it's it's not going to be you know, Rob Reschneider
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: against a right hander in the third, that's when it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: not going to be that. So we'll see how it unfolds.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. But certainly, what I saw from Kisner,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping is practice yesterday, and I've already seen enough
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: information to say Andrew Kissner does not get the challenge
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the year when he's a hitter. Yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I just want it to be known if he does
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: it again, he's cut.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: That's fair. And I think what two challenges?
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But if you get it right, you keep getting, Yeah,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: you get when once you get too wrong, you're done.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Got it? Yeah, And there were a lot there were
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of challenges in that game yesterday, So I
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: do believe that there is an element of people are
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: practicing it.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, right now, Right now's the time to overuse it
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  Speaker 2: and find out, Okay, what really you can should and
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be challenging.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And everybody should have the right to do that. Yes now,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Kisner burning three in the first three innings a little
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: interesting enough. You're really practicing hard, Yeah, Andrew at this,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: But I I just am of the opinion that by
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: the end of the season there will be a completely
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: different strategy of how to use them than there will
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: be right now because everybody that we asked about, I mean,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Jerry said, everybody but Randy and then Dan Wilson. We'll
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: have to see as the season goes, but it kind
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: of feels like they're going to give people the benefit
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of the doubt at the beginning of the year as
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: to how to use them. I think that will be
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: ripped from their clutches at some point during the season,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: and my guess is sooner than later. Because I'm with
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: cal I think all the decisions have to be based
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: on situation, and I do believe most of the challenges
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: need to be based on situation plus hitter.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and as the season goes on and your
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: games become more and more important, right, you're trying to
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: buy for your playoff positioning and things like that. The
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: last thing you want is to have burned challenges early
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: that can make a difference in a game, that makes
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: a difference in your standings, that can send you to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. Mm hm no, no, thank you.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, everybody's going to treat it differently, and
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that's the fastest aspect of this how teams are going
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: to approach this. But you can tell. You can tell
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: just based off of our conversations, and we asked nearly
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: everybody about it that we interviewed, because it's such a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fascinating aspect of this twenty twenty six season and beyond.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Almost everybody was kind of in a we'll see kind
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: of mode. But I do believe that sooner than later
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: they'll have a better grasp of how exactly we want
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to utilize our challenges. It's gonna be fascinating, all right.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, the NFL combines underway this week, and yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: the pajama Party starts on Thursday, but let's face it,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: the next two days where all the executives are there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: We could have some NFL stories to pass along in
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: the next forty eight hours. Certainly there's a lot of speculation,
• 18:51
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• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Well you know what, Actually, I think it's time that
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  Speaker 1: you did this letter rip Like.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's a full on tyring, right, you can't.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: You can't operate in this business scared you're gonna cuss.
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• 19:30
  Speaker 2: And now I'm gonna have nightmares that I have cussed
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: and the dump button is broken.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I had some of the strangest dreams ever and they
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: happened like as soon as I closed my eyes yesterday.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And I didn't eat anything strange, and I didn't drink
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: and I didn't I the night before I had tea.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I did not have tea last night. I have no
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: idea what produced this, but it was just a night,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: just a running, one weird dream after another. They did
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: not stop from the moment I closed my eyes to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the moment I woke.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: And the best part or weirdest part about that is
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: that makes no sense how you get from one to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the next. And I don't remember any of them. Oh wow,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Like the other day, I dreamt I was in the
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: airport in Dallas and all of my bag is my
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: bags kept getting smaller, but I kept getting more stuff,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: so they like made me open them to inspect it,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and then I had to keep putting it back in,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: but the bags kept getting smaller, but I had more
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: stuff to fit in the bags. Then I got Then
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: my friends left me because they didn't want to wait
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: for me anymore. So I went to the hotel bar
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and became best friends with Channing Tatum and his ex wife.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Oh you always have celebrities, I dreams.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Then they came back to our house, which then had
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a pool, and we had a big party to welcome
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: them to the neighborhood.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Huh, And they became best friends with all of course. Yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: well else would I operate in my subconscious Yeah?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And then out on the golf course they were filming
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a movie, not Channing Tatum's movie. He went out to
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: see it. It was a Harlan Coben film, which are great
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: on Netflix those TV series.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: That's weird that you always have celebrities in here. I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: rarely have celebrities in.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: They make an appearance a lot. I don't know what
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: that means.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know either, but yeah, it was. It was
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: a weird night of dreams and just an average night
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: of dreams for Ashley. Yeah, which are weird.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Which Yeah, every time I start to say, oh my god,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: my dream last night, five Iron looks at me.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: He's like, no, I lot this again. You need to
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: have those analyzed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that an analyst could figure it out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think they'd look at me and go, you know what,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: good luck. Yeah, I think they could give them a shot.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: You know what, I don't want You know what you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: gonna do tonight, You're gonna dream about having an analyst
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: not figure out my dreams. Who is Johnny Depp?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Probably I make a great dream analyst. I feel like
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: you'd get very in depth.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You go see a dream analyst. Yeah, and it's Johnny.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Depp, you know, as Captain Jack sparrow.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Riding a unicycle with one of those propeller.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Hats on, giving me great dream ideas.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's talk to NFL. The Combine Week
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: is down there, but for the next couple of days
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of NFL news, and according to Adam Schefter,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much all of it right now
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: being centered around the quarterbacks. Teams out there. Franchises are
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out their quarterback situations. We kind of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: have ours figured out here in Seattle, but it could
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: have been a completely different story once upon a time.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I mean, look at the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. I mean they are This is an actual story.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wants to play for the Vikings, and the Vikings,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: after the year they had at quarterback, are considering it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they do, I mean, what a disaster
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you made of your quarterback situation here the last three years.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: You run Kirk Cousins out of town because he's done
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to give JJ McCarthy a chance, and then he gets hurt.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: So you have Sam Darnold and then you run out
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: him out of town to give JJ McCarthy the fair shot.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: In his second year of existence, and then you were
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: so disenchanted with how he played this year that you're
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: now going to turn to Aaron Rodgers at age forty
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: two forty three one year later. I mean, if ever,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: there was a year to make sure what you have
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: or don't have in JJ McCarthy, you need to find
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that out, and you have already blown it twice.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Because they seem like they're one foot in, one foot out,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: they're not fully committed.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: You've ran off two better quarterbacks with the op and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: thank you for doing it with the goal of trying
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to figure out what you have in JJ McCarthy. And
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: then you know he hasn't even had a full healthy
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: season yet. Of all the decisions the Minnesota Vikings can
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: or need to make this offseason, you need to start
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and find out what you have in him,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: because you're not going to find it out having him
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: back up Aaron Rodgers. I've seen that movie before, that's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: called the Zach Wilson Movie, And so are you really
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: have you already seen enough that you're going to go
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the way? I mean, it's different if you had the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft and you're like, we
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just haven't seen enough from JJ McCarthy to pass up
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on Mendoza here, so we're gonna go ahead and take
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoz. No, you're talking about a forty three year
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: old quarterback that you're going to allow get in the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: way of your evaluation of your former first round pick
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: who you took over a number of other dudes, and
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you still have yet to see him operate a full system.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: It's full season in your system. Yeah, how on earth
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: can you allow that to happen? But apparently it's a
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: real possibility.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: I would be And it's almost like the situation that
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: they're they're thinking to themselves, there's no way we could
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: have screwed this up this badly, So we don't want
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to just admit, like, oh, maybe we haven't handled this correctly.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So they're just trying to do these small things to maybe,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: in their mind, fix it and make it look not
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: as bad. But as a Seahawks fan who hates Jamal Adams,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, you're not going to make it
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: better by doing the little small things. We'll just make
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: a decision one way or the other.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: They were just so on board with him two years
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: in a row. How could you have soured this quick.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: You knew it was going to be a little bit
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: of a project.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you haven't even really given him.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I mean he played a football game as last year
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: in college where he didn't even throw the ball in
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the second half. That's how good the team was around.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Him, and they looked at him and they're like, that's
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: the arm we need.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you knew you were signing up for
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a project and a good kid
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and a potential leader who had to ramp up his
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: quarterback abilities. And to abandon it after basically half a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: year of injured play. I mean that just seems crazy
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to me. No crazier than the Atlanta Falcons. I mean,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: with every second that passes, the Atlanta Falcons have just
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: looked worse and worse for signing a big time free
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: agent in the offseason at quarterback and then drafting a
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the same offseason. And at the time I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: defended it a little bit because maybe you didn't think
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: that Pennix would be on the board and you just
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: couldn't pass up that talent. But now you have let
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: go of Kirk Cousins. Today you're going to eat thirty
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: five million dollars this year. Excuse me. The restructure reduced
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: cousins twenty twenty six base salary from a non guaranteed
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: thirty five million to just two million, but he still
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: owed money in twenty twenty seven as well. Yeah, he's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: guaranteed sixty eight million and twenty twenty seven.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Gosh.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: So they restructured it so they only are on the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: hook for two this year, but it's sixty eight million
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: for next year. I mean, you couldn't have botched that anymore.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You really couldn't have.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Well, even when they just before they drafted Penis, when
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: they gave him that contract, everyone was like, well, that
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: is a lot of money that you're getting Kirk Cousins.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you're taking the approach of we
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: couldn't pass up on that talent, we signed Cousins, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: then our draft evaluation process led us to believe that
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: this was this Penox guy was too good to pass up,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: and so we used a high draft pick on him.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: But then then just the strange way they used them,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and then last year Cousins had to replace Pennix, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: now Cousins is going to be let go, and so
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: just strange, you know, those people in Atlanta that were
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: crushing the decision that offseason, they were right. The Falcons
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: were not right. Clearly, the critics of the Falcons were
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: right in that moment. Let's see other quarterback news. There
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: is Tua versus Kyler. There was talk Adam Schefter reporting
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this morning that the Miami Dolphins might even go the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: root of Brock Osweiler to get rid of to a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: tongue of iloa.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: So I heard that and I was like, are they
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: just comparing like an old Osweiler contract? They would really
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: bring Osweiler? I mean, how long has he not been playing?
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: No?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: No, no, not bringing Osweiler. Oh, but doing what the Broncos
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: did with Oswa.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Now that's what I thought I heard, And then okay, sorry,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I just misunderstood what you said and got very confused.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way, no.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Not Auswiner. No, they're gonna pull a Brock Oswier, who's
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: famous for being traded because the team trading him ate
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the entire contract just to get rid of him and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: gave draft pick compensation. Yes, so that might be how
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: far to a tongue of I loa has fallen with
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. They can't trade him because of his contract,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: but if somebody will take him, they will actually give
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: up draft picks in order for somebody to take him
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and his salary off of their hands.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: And the conversation was maybe they would even drop him,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: like whoever got him might then dump him. Could the
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: draft pick.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Just to get the draft pick? But so that's how
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: far down the wrong that to a tongue of I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: looa has slipped and Kyler Murray is in a bit
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of a similar situation. I mean, to me, if I'm
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: just trying to like salvage something out of these two guys,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: why don't those two teams hook up? I mean, what
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: do you have to lose? I brought it up to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: a friend of mine that's a Cardinal fan when I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: was down in Arizona, and he just kind of grimaced,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, your options are not great here, Bud,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Like you know, maybe your only option is to try
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to get somebody who at one point was thought to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: have a lot of promise and give him a new
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: coaching staff and maybe you can reach him. I mean,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it seems to me like the Cardinals and the Dolphins
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: are at the same point they're at the breaking point.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: They don't want them on the team, they don't want
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: them in the organization, they don't want them in their clubhouse,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: and yet they owe them both a lot of money. Well,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: why don't you just trade Tua for Kyler and then
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe they fit better with their new regime and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: their new teammates. I mean, what do you have to lose?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Right, you know you're not going to make get the
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: draft pick, but.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna you know, if you're not gonna marry them,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: nobody's gonna take their contracts off your hands. So it
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: might be your only option. So Murray gets a new
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: environment in Miami too, it gets a new environment, new
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: teammates in Arizona. Maybe that's something that could work. Malik Willis,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: believe it or not. I reference that one and one
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: top NFL free agents this offseason that NFL network pumped out.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: He's the number one guy, and it just means that
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: he's going to make the most money. But man, it's
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that he showed enough with
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers this year that somebody's going to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: give him a fortune and make him their starting quarterback,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: their QB one. But that seems to be what has occurred,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that Malik Willis is going to be somebody's QB one
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: next year at a really high salary as he enters
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a free agency, and of all teams that are interested,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: of course, it's the Cleveland Browns. Shocking, Yes, shocking, and
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the fans will race to the stores to buy Willis jerseys. Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and then finally the Raiders. Fernando men will not throw
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: at the NFL combine. I mean, it seems like the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: lock of the century that he's going to be the
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: number one overall selection here in the upcoming draft. But
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I can promise you I'm going to tell you right
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: now because this is the way I follow the draft
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: closely enough as father draft miss to know that this process,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: they will get bored. People will start getting bored with
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza just being assumed is the number one pick.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: And it's not like he doesn't have some red flags,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: because you know what, he's kind of a spaz, it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: kind of a goofball. Seems to be likable, but doesn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: exactly walk and talk like your average to above average
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: NFL leader quarterback. And so I think there will start
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: being some holes, and maybe even as quickly as this weekend,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to be poked in the Fernando Mendoza resume.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you right now between I
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna tell you right now, between now and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: draft night, there will be plenty of stories talking about
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: how the Raiders are looking to move off the pick
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: or might be considering someone else at number one. It's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: gonna happen, wow, And then ultimately I think he will
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: be taking number one. But even if it's not true,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: people will get bored with reporting the Mendoza to the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Raiders and they will start looking deeper into why that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: won't happen, overthink it all. And then somebody out there,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Bleacher report guy will write an article about how he's
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: not even though it won't be based in any fact,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and then because of social media, it will take on
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: a life of its own, and then the Raiders will
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: have to answer a billion questions about who they actually
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: are considering because we've heard you're not gonna take Fernando Mendoza.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That process will begin in earnest soon and we will
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: deal with it during Draft miss this year. There's no
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: question about it. It might even start this weekend. He's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not going to throw, but I hear he is going
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to be there in Indianapolis. All right. Coming up next,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: we close out the show with one last thing. Sports
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Yeah to a Tongue
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of I Looa is owed fifty six million dollars per
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: year through twenty twenty eight, and Kyler Murray's cap it
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: is fifty three million through twenty twenty eight, so pretty negligible.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: So man, yeah, I mean, if you're going to try
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to talk somebody into taking Tongue of Iloa's contract and
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you're willing to give them draft picks in order to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: do it, I still don't know if you're going to
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: be able to find a suitor. Yeah, I don't. But
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: if you could do it with the Cardinals and just
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: go tongue of I Loa and some sort of draft
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: pick in exchange for Murray and then had to be
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: a first round pick, like a third round pick and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a third round pick for Kyler Murray just to give
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: them two, I mean you're stuck. You're screwed either way,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So you might as well turn the program over to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: new Blood fresh Blood and see if you I mean
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald proved that you can light a spark with
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: something that looks you know, looks dormant. Yeah, you can
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: light a spark with the right surroundings. So I don't know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I'd use the Sam Donald example to maybe try because
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: you certainly can't just keep those guys back bring them back,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: So anyway that makes sense to me? Yeah, maybe not
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to anybody else.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: What if you got to lose?
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, what's your one last thing, Ashley?
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I've got two very short, tiny, one last things, so
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: like half one last things to complete one last thing.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I saw Daniel Cramer posted an article about Ryan Bliss
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and JP Crawford's relationship. Oh, and I thought it was
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: just very cute, even just the headline. Basically, Ryan Bliss
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and JP Crawford were good friends, and you know, JP
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: kind of took him under his wing, and they're so
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: close that JP actually officiated Ryan Bliss's wedding this offseason.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Oh is that right?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh, Well, you know, Ryan, come on out to
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Woodenville where all the cool people are moving. Yeah, it's true,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: he lives in Woodenville, you know, notice col Yeah exactly, Well, Ryan,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: you know just come on out and we can hang together.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: All normal pals.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Ryan Bliss is a awesome young man. Awesome young man.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My other small, one last thing is someone went
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: back into the movie Miracle and found a part in
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the movie where they're going through the cuts and who's
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: getting eliminated from trying out for Team USA. And one
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: of the people that gets eliminated is Jack Hughes.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it is it is factual. He was He
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: did not make the USA roster. And so then now
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: people are joking, oh, my gosh, twenty one years before
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: he was born. Look, although it was actually I think
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: it was fourteen years before he was born. No, he's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: younger than that. H twenty one years before he was born.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And there he is, Wow, getting cut from Team USA
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: only to help us win the gold thirty four years
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: thirty six, forty six years later. Oh yeah, forty six.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: That was math I was been thinking of a different year. Yeah,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I was trying to do math on when Jack Hughes
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: was born, and then I couldn't figure that out.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: His dad might not even have been born for the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Miracle on.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: U, Yeah, he might not have been. So there you go.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Something something interesting.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Some reporter, we'll get that confused and ask him, so,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: what was it like getting cut from the Miracle on
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Ice team? Yeah?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: And how long did it take you to get over that?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: And when were you? When? Will your teeth grow back?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Does this feel like vindication?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll cloak out with this. Speaking of hockey,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Keith Kachuck, his sons also played on the US team.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: He's a big dude. Now, yeah, he looks like Thanos
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: in the stands now Keith Kitchuk. But I do have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a Keith Kachuk story. I think I've told you and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Bucky the Mike Ditka story of when we were in
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Tahoe and he came into the bathroom and the whole
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: place went quiet, and there was a bunch of celebrities
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: in there. Uh and me uh, And I'm at the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: urinal and Mike Ditka walks in, the whole place goes quiet.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I have no idea why it went quiet. I turn around,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I see Ditka walking through there, bigger than life, and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: he goes into the restroom, and I swear to you
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: everybody remained quiet just because they were wanting to.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Hear, just to listen to him. Pete.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: It wasn't Pete just to see, like, what does it
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: sound like? I'm telling you, just to see what it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: sounds like, such reverential treatment for him, And then it happened,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: and we all like bug eyed, couldn't believe what we
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: were listening to. Uh. And the person that was standing
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: next to me that I exchanged glances with, yeah, was
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Keith Chuck.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: So my two images of Keith Kachuck are him standing
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: next to me at the urinal listening to Mike Ditka
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: do his business roll of deuce uh huh, and him
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: celebrating the gold medal with his wife as his sons
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: hold off the Olympics.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Much better image.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Second second on my list, Kika Juck's your second my favorite?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Look like different people, I'll tell you that much.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah that is. Those are two starkly different stories.
• 38:25
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