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TWR Thursday | FULL Review of #TheBatman with SPOILERS · The Whitfield Report

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  Now broadcasting from the next-gen conservative studio in
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  Sunny South Florida, bringing you the latest in politics
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  current events and pop culture. This is he's the Whitfield
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  Report with Sam Whitfield. Welcome to the Thursday edition
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  of the Whitfield report. Technically, you guys might be
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  hearing this on Friday, but we are recording this on Thursday.
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  So, technically, it's the Thursday show.
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  So welcome everyone. As I mentioned in the Batman
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  review, video that I did on YouTube, this will be a spoiler.
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  Phil's review and we're going to do this episode probably
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  multiple Parts. But for part one of this spoiler
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  review, I have Sean's mango of real news who I missing him on
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  Twitter because I don't get to hear his Twitter tags anymore.
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  There's things but, you know, I I've been talking to what People
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  on Twitter about the Batman and I've gotten some pretty, I've
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  gotten some pretty hot takes from people.
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  I think, I think some people are surprised.
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  I like this movie as much as I do.
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  But anyway, first off Sean, welcome to the show and just
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  kind of before we get into spoilers too much.
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  What were your just general kind of initial I guess hot tags.
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  Greetings Gamers. And thank you for having me on.
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  As always, I got serious movie early and early screening so I
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  didn't have any spoilers, which is great and I've say this to
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  preface X, my pains may change. There's a good chance, my pains
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  will change on second viewing, which will surely come this week
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  or next, when I take my girlfriend, but I have mixed
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  feelings on it. Mostly positive.
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  But I do have mixed feelings their stuff.
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  I love stuff I like and stuff. I disliked I absolutely adore
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  the cinematography Greg. Frazier is my second favorite
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  cinematographer out there when we Roger deakins beating him,
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  very beautiful, he shot doun. He shot wrote One, the
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  Mandalorian and some other things.
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  I'm probably forgetting but he is fantastic.
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  And the cinematography is probably the best of him.
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  Batman. Lots of cool close ups.
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  Lots of cool colors. Very I would agree.
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  Yeah. Absolutely.
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  It's one of the best parts. The score surprised me is really
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  good. I've always been to Chino fan
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  but I didn't think he was gonna be the right choices because
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  he's usually better doing happier music so to speak.
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  But scores, great. Very moody it's got that theme
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  that everybody's going to come out humming in their heads
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  afterwards. And it's actually very simple to
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  make two notes on the piano and plays very simple, but it's very
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  good. The mood is very good.
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  I love the Noir detective V Blade.
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  Runner can Vibes in this very good, very atmospheric acting
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  all around solid is not bad. Performance.
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  The story is good ish and I'll explain why later why I'm a
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  little kind of iffy on it and the plot is kind of the same
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  thing. It's a little goodish.
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  The characters are all superb. I love the direction they took
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  an all of them. I love what they did something
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  different and I love everybody. Played them.
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  The negatives though that I have third Act is very weak and very
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  uncharacteristic. The whole film and I don't want
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  to say anti-climatic. Yeah.
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  Kind of is kind of anti-climatic.
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  Sure. Really.
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  I mean it's kind of semak that's kind of not and there's some
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  issues with it that don't make sense.
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  There's a reveal that I could, I feel it could have been a what
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  we felt like with your Marvel end credits scene.
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  I'm glad it doesn't have any incred scenes just in, need to
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  be in the film and I just I there's this one line and, you
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  know, it and have doing it probably knows it.
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  Now that said by Catwoman to piss me off, took me out of the
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  film. It's awoke line doesn't need to
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  be in the film. I bet it's a studio know.
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  I bet Studios put it in, but it takes me out of the film and it
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  pissed me off for a while that it just what I just couldn't get
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  on my head because the movie had nothing to do with it.
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  It comes out of nowhere and just takes you out of it.
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  And that's all he can think about for a while, really?
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  Still. So when it took you when it took
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  you out of the film, like it took you out, it wasn't.
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  It wasn't like it took you out but then you were able to go
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  back and yeah, and that was the problem is like for a good 30
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  minutes. I just couldn't stop thinking
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  like, why the fuck was that line in there?
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  That pisses me off, is this awoke movie and I just couldn't
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  get out of me. I eventually did because I would
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  kind of force myself, but that's the promise chilly.
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  As it takes you out, especially when there's no Set.
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  And this is the problem that third act in general is there's
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  just no setup for a lot of things.
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  Like there's this thing the Riddler does that's like the big
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  finale and it's never. Yeah.
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  And And that one's. So I and everything else though.
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  Awesome, awesome, stuff. But there's just some random
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  shit thrown and I just didn't care for, but I'm trying to
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  think of my other names, but those are really it.
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  Like I said, the negatives aren't a lot.
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  It's just, they have a good chunk of value with them.
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  Waiting wise, weight-wise the things, I loved a pretty solid,
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  the things I liked or decent. You know, they're not super main
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  parts of it, but the things they disliked were kind of in between
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  or not really, super important things, but they're not
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  pointless things either. And so that's variety.
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  The only other thing I really just kind of didn't care for is
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  their portrayal Bruce Wayne in this.
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  I think Pattinson is fantastic. I think he's fine.
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  I think it's great. I've always really thought he
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  has potential and I didn't think he was going to be bad in this
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  so tall. But he's Bruce Wayne, I didn't
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  care for. And it's not because I look, I
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  see what they're going to probably do with some character,
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  both with him, which I think is good, but I think it was a
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  little overdone, in the mood Eid oppressiveness of him.
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  It didn't feel like that when he was Batman, he was a different
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  person. I mean, kind of does, it feels
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  like he's laying his rage out, but when he's Bruce Wayne, I
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  expected a little something different.
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  I understand that he's Controls Batman and he's Batman through
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  90% of the film which I thought was cool.
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  It was different. That's great, but when he's
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  Bruce Wayne, I expected some more vulnerability, maybe or
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  some more something that's hiding behind that mask.
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  And I think that would have been more interesting to see that
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  this guy is like really broken. Like, you get the vibe that he's
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  broken, but you never really see it.
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  You see you can tell he's depressed.
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  You can tell, he's going through ship, but you can't really see
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  why. And you can't really see all the
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  effects on. You see the little bit where
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  Like how? You know, you're not very
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  charitable. You're not really doing much.
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  We could use you and there's like a subtle thing, somebody
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  mention. And now let give your thoughts,
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  that was a really cool detail, but you notice that whenever
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  he's outside, he put sunglasses on and that's because he's used
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  to being outside at night in the sun's too bright for him.
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  He's never outside like physically outside without
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  sunglasses and goes inside building.
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  He takes them off but like in the funeral scene, but I thought
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  that was a really smart guy. Detail, like there's a lot of
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  really smart cool things in this.
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  But everything add together, it doesn't completely fit.
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  It's not a masterpiece, it's good.
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  I'd give it like, maybe an 8 out of 10, but it's definitely not
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  the best Batman. I've seen I could say it's
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  probably the most comic accurate adaptation, which I think is
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  cool. And I like that.
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  But I think it was not as good as I thought it was going to be,
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  but it was not as bad as some were thinking.
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  I was going to be. I didn't like as much as I
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  thought I would, but I still liked it.
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  Yeah, and I mean, I think Think that's actually pretty fair
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  analysis. I mean I gave it like a nine
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  point five out of ten which you know again I know that's pretty
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  high for some people and that's generous, you know, I also I
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  also know that well, I mean I guess so what me kind of explain
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  that because I didn't really explain it too much, in the
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  spoiler, you know, free video. But like so and you and I have
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  talked about this in general like, nowadays.
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  Like I rarely go to go to the movies.
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  At all, like if I can stream, if I can stream a movie like on HBO
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  Max, I would rather do that. You know, then then God and it's
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  not, because I'm anti-social just because like, you know,
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  even with like matinee shows, like you're still spending like,
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  you know, 20 bucks for two people which granted isn't bad.
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  But like I can, you know, That's just for like one movie and you
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  know you can rent like three movies for that like on on
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  demand or something. So you know, going to the
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  theaters like I've done it twice this year and I've liked it but
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  like I guess you know, I mean, going into this movie, I didn't
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  have any expectations like what would be good or bad and I guess
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  I was kind of surprised how good it was because there's like a
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  long-term Batman fan. Like I've read the comics since
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  I was a kid. So like a lot of the like two
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  notes like the Long Haul weaned and Batman year, One that they
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  You know, used and thus, like I picked up on and, you know, so
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  as far as like the influence the Conch booked like, you know, it
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  was definitely recognize which I really loved and this one
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  because I feel like with the Christopher Nolan films like as
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  great as they are, they were like, they were kind of doing
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  their own thing. And so the fact this is like
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  that this was like, you know, really like attempting to You
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  know, conflict accurate. Like again, it wasn't perfect,
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  but like they made a damn good effort.
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  So I have to give them props on that.
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  You know, like you said, the cinematography was, like, war
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  was gorgeous and I have to say that that is like the one thing
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  that like really suck me and was like, I felt like I was in
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  Gotham, you know? Yeah.
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  I didn't feel like I was, you know, in New York masquerading
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  as Gotham or that I was in Chicago masquerading as Gotham.
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  I felt that I was like in Gotham City proper and I do like how
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  they kind of made the city like a character in the in the film
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  and of itself which is usually the case with these blade runner
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  in the war type things, which is what they were going for.
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  And I think that works Right. You know, as far as pads and
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  goes like like someone is. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Yeah Benson.
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  As I as I call them, you know, I know that people were making fun
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  of him being like oh this is going to be, you know, Twilight
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  Sparkle a Batman and it's like ever since Jane.
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  No Craig. Like basically blew everyone's
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  mind but how good he was as Bond like I you know I try not to
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  jump the shark because I'm I'm kind of like, okay well you know
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  so-and-so might surprise you and he in rock bands and definitely
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  did. I want to say these the best
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  Batman? But He potentially could be in
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  future films. I just think it's it's really
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  still to eat, it's really still too early to tell but I like his
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  depiction of, you know, as Batman.
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  I also like to have this was the first time we've actually seen
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  Batman be through and through a detective of a detective story.
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  I know that's being said a lot about this but it is true.
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  As you see, then Dark Night a little bit.
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  You see that other one's a little bit, but you don't see a
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  full-on detective story where they're hunting Clues and trying
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  to find the Killer and they finally find him.
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  And that's again. There were two problems.
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  I do have, which I'll get into. Can we go in this pose now?
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  Reduced? Sure.
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  Yeah, yeah, we can go full on into spoilers.
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  Okay. So spoiler warning, I'm some
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  spoilers. This is where things get
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  anti-climatic from. He's at the end because Cuz the
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  Riddler's introduced. And I think the Riddler, by the
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  way, best version of river by far, I don't like, I mean, this
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  is how the Riddler is Basis. Basis is OD a killer, and I
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  think that works really well, because it's scary.
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  It's realistic. Helping the school fees or Jim
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  Carrey version. That's just doesn't really work
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  for me. I like my Batman serious with
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  comic relief. But look, serious and grounded
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  and realistic. I think that's for a lawsuit me.
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  Um you should go but I'm just not into the whole Fantastical
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  superhero Thing and neither am I.
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  Yeah, so that's where damage always been my favorite but it's
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  also darker, which makes my favorite, but I love the
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  Riddler. I think.
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  Paul dinner was great. I don't think he was amazing.
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  I think there was just enough of him that he gives a great
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  performance but I wanted more out of it, it feels like, you
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  know, it you can It felt like to me a lot of times, there wasn't
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  really a lot of the audience for participation.
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  What I mean by that is when Batman finds these clothes, he
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  figures out like right then there most of the time I mean
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  there was times and it works and it's good where you kind of
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  don't know what the fuck these clues mean, and still kind of
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  lingering in that. And there's some twists with
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  that, like the L and the law parts of the penguin figures.
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  Like that's that's good. I just didn't think there was
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  enough for the audience to kind of piece things together and
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  then when you finally get to it, it's kind of what you kind of
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  expect. Like, At first, I didn't know
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  what he meant by see you and how again, good mystery.
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  I didn't understand, I didn't know who his final Target really
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  would be, but I had a good guess would be Bruce Wayne and what
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  shockingly it is. But the the problem I have is
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  that, by the end of it, that's not like the real end goal with
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  him. The end goal is he wants to
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  flood the city and there's no set of.
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  I don't know, Gotham had sea walls until he told us.
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  I didn't know that was going to be a thing except from the
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  trailers. And why is he doing that?
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  I don't understand. I still don't understand
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  motivation for flooding. Gotham.
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  I get to an extent but they still don't get it well and The
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  other thing that someone pointed out was like and I think this
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  was Gare Du Nord Roddick that pointed this out.
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  Was where the hell? Did he get the resources Tool?
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  Uh, yeah. And like, you could say his
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  online community. But, yeah and Rich.
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  Well, yeah. And I mean, also like other
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  window like the streamer in this vein, by didn't know, he's like
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  lulea livestreamer. Well, I mean, he's so I will say
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  that like the Dreaming thing is kind of cool because like they
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  that because they've they've done that in the comics and you
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  know, for the last couple years and I don't know if you've
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  played like any of the Arkham games but I own them but I've
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  only played play one of them like when I was really young but
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  I own them like I want to play them.
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  Yeah so in that game like basically you basically talk to
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  hurdler like over Curved screen and like he'll give you like
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  Puzzles and you know you have to like either run around Arkham,
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  Asylum and run around. Gotham City to do that.
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  And so like that version of The Riddler was definitely in this
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  movie. And yeah, when it comes to Paul
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  Dano, I feel like he did a really good job of Riddler.
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  One of the things I read was that they kind of and I
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  understand why they did this, but they did say that they kind
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  of, I guess hold the Riddler back a little bit because they
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  didn't want Paul Dano too. Go to get like two invested
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  because he is like a method actor, whatever.
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  And they didn't want getting like to Super invested in
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  basically like and I had to make this comparison.
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  But I mean it's what they said. They didn't want him pulling
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  like a Heath Ledger and basically suiciding himself
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  because of the stress. So You know, I would have liked
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  to have seen more but at the same time I mean, I don't know,
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  we'll see the thing to at the end and Chris core mention is so
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  it's a good point. I mean, it's very clear that
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  this movie has a lot of Inspirations for the comics V
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  Inspirations from 7. I'd even argue Blade Runner
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  zodiac and a few other movies but at the end of it like I am
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  cool with this movie two-thirds of the way through.
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  I'm Get. I like yeah.
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  And it just needs to like, have this final payoff that makes me
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  go God. That was an awesome movie but it
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  doesn't do that. And that's why I'm kind of left
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  below. Like I liked it but not as much
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  as I want to. At the end of it, we treat.
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  Which which honestly is the is like a reason why gets like a
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  nine point five out of 10 because the first two, the first
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  two acts are Like Masterpiece is if this if this were like a TV
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  show, right? Like these like it would have
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  been like a great first Arc but then like the third act or
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  whatever the finale is just like I feel like they Rush My problem
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  with the ending is, I feel like they rushed in like, they tried
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  to cram way too much into the last act or this a three-hour
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  movie. And that's where I'm like, right
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  which is what's there's one big thing that they could have cut.
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  So, I'll mention in a second. I know why it's in there.
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  Cut that. And then you could have had like
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  a two-hour two-and-a-half-hour movie or two hour, 45 minutes
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  over nuts, much tighter cleaner movie, that was better.
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  The honest when you said TV show that's what really intrigues me.
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  This really if we really want to be honest should have been an
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  HBO Max TV series. It would have been the biggest
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  thing since Game of Thrones having this style Batman in a TV
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  series where he every week is trying to solve a mystery and
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  maybe the mystery lingers through the whole first season,
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  maybe it's three episode arcs. It could be the coolest TV show
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  ever ever. I mean, it would be so good
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  seeing this Batman in a TV setting with big HBO.
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  Budget Game of Thrones budget thrown at it.
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  And this Talent involves, it would be fantastic.
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  Like I would love the shit out of that and it would be the one
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  of the most successful TV shows of all time.
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  It just would be, that's what they should do.
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  I want to pay them to choose. I don't I want this as a TV
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  series and And with the ending, though.
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  It the whole movie is pretty small scale, and I mean that in
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  a good way, it's very, you know, Batman Gordon and Catwoman
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  figuring this whole mystery. I with the Riddler and penguin
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  is crime, Lord, that's in the city.
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  It's all that stuff is stuff. Well, it builds well yet, World
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  building, but it's all contained in this city.
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  In a pretty small scale way where there's just this guy
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  murdering some big-name people. But at the end, End of it, it
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  goes into the whole series can be flooded.
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  It gets into this big Hollywood spectacle which I'm not saying
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  that's necessarily a bad thing but it feels for this movie
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  uncharacteristic. Where's was Savin?
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  Its small scale and it ends, small scale, it ends with Kevin
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  Spacey Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt, and a box in the middle of
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  a field and it's dramatic. It's one, most memorable endings
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  in cinema. Superb.
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  It's a great plot with and it leaves you going like Blown Away
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  by the end of it. You don't need a big spectacle
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  and I feel like that's what the movie.
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  When's. It fucking need this big
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  spectacle at the end of it, but it really didn't.
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  I think what they were going for was Batman.
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  Starting off very reclusive and just kicking people's ass and
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  ruling by fear by end of that he realizes.
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  I need to put fear into the criminals bios, need to give the
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  people hope I need to give him a symbol.
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  Any sort of developing idea of what Batman is, which Dark
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  Knight trilogy does. And this does, which is cool,
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  but it didn't really at first, I didn't realize, that's what I
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  was trying to say. Till I thought about it later.
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  It's not very clear in that and the way to go bad they could
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  have done in a cooler way. Yeah.
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  Yeah, and I agree I agree with you because like the thing is is
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  like I If that's that's the other thing I like about this
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  and this is one movie where I felt like this is one area where
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  I felt like the Dark Knight trilogy, like started off really
• 23:55
  strong at but then kind of like, you know, for the Dark Knight
• 24:00
  and the Dark Knight Rises, this is where the this is where the
• 24:03
  Christopher Nolan movies kind of Fall Apart.
• 24:07
  Was the idea of like that man being, you know, a terrifying
• 24:12
  symbol to, to criminals like the the scene at like the in the
• 24:17
  beginning of the Batman were like, you see all the criminals,
• 24:22
  just see it, they see the bat signal and they just like, start
• 24:26
  pissing themselves, you know, in like that man's not in even
• 24:32
  there. But just like the idea that, you
• 24:34
  know, he could be, there is It's just, you know, tariff, tariff,
• 24:41
  second example, show, don't tell, they don't say Batman,
• 24:44
  scary. They want me.
• 24:46
  They kind of do but the way that they show it is really well done
• 24:50
  and that scene was telling me, I'm like, all this is going to
• 24:52
  be really good and then it just kind of disappointing me at the
• 24:55
  end of it. Where's the dark night?
• 24:57
  I mean I don't want to compare it to a good but people are and
• 25:00
  I don't think they do. Yeah different.
• 25:02
  That's one of my all-time favorite movies.
• 25:04
  Top three favorite movies. It's amazing and it's Flawless
• 25:08
  from start to finish. It is one of the best movies
• 25:11
  I've ever seen hands down. But the way that movie ends is
• 25:15
  so much better in so many ways. Because, again, there's, there
• 25:20
  is some of the sort of big spectacle to it.
• 25:23
  But that's kind of way that they were doing their films and it
• 25:26
  isn't even too big. It's not like the whole City's
• 25:28
  going to be flooded. It's two.
• 25:30
  Boats are going to get blown, Micah blown up, and Harvey
• 25:33
  Dent's, kind of going on a murder Rampage.
• 25:36
  You know, it's like Too big. It's you know it's contained
• 25:40
  enough and then it ends with Batman doing something heroic
• 25:46
  that you would never expect it which is he takes the blame for
• 25:49
  Harveys murders because that's the hero.
• 25:52
  He needs to be somebody who's willing to do the hard things to
• 25:55
  become a villain, you know? And because that's what Gotham
• 26:01
  deserves but that's not the hero they need at the end.
• 26:04
  You know, where knows that line because it's such a powerful
• 26:06
  idea Message that's unique that you don't see any other
• 26:09
  superhero doing and it's just it's just such a it's one of the
• 26:14
  best things I've seen in this ending is just kind of men.
• 26:18
  And I think part of the problem with that is especially this
• 26:21
  third Act is the whole sir revisionist history of the
• 26:25
  Wayne's. I didn't really like that.
• 26:29
  I don't know if that's a comet. Was that in the comics at all?
• 26:32
  That sort of Isaiah, the wings weren't that great.
• 26:36
  Well, okay. Okay, so the one thing, the one
• 26:41
  thing is interesting because they've kind of changed it
• 26:46
  throughout throughout the decades.
• 26:48
  So, so, okay, so a few things, one kind of just going off your
• 26:58
  Dark Knight hum. It's interesting because Like I
• 27:02
  used to be with you that the Dark Knight was Flawless, but
• 27:07
  then I watched a few reviews where I'm like, oh yeah, The
• 27:10
  Dark Knight still has flaws. What's funny?
• 27:13
  Is the flaws that the Dark Knight has Our our flaws were
• 27:20
  dressed perfectly here in the in the Batman and then vice versa.
• 27:27
  If that makes sense. Yeah, let me it does have flaws.
• 27:32
  Don't get me wrong, but it's there just so small that it
• 27:35
  doesn't matter to me. Well, I mean, like, the wasn't
• 27:39
  take me out of a movie. That's the important thing.
• 27:41
  One thing in the dark. Yeah, no, it doesn't do that.
• 27:44
  But like the one thing that like, okay, so two things kind
• 27:48
  of Drove me a little bit. I want to say like, I want a
• 27:54
  like mad with the Dark Knight but one thing, but why?
• 27:57
  Like two things that were kinda disappointing.
• 27:59
  Like like one, they were like kind of start and do with, like
• 28:05
  detective work to like, find find out who the joke or was and
• 28:10
  then Alfred does that whole? Like when I was a young man and
• 28:15
  I was in Burma, you know, there was that there was a guy was
• 28:18
  burning down the forest and somehow that leads like that
• 28:23
  way. Bruce to be like, okay, well,
• 28:27
  fuck that. Fuck the detective work, I guess
• 28:29
  it doesn't like really matter and I kind of felt.
• 28:32
  I kind of like, I always kind of felt like what in the you know,
• 28:37
  that's not how Bruce would act, I guess.
• 28:43
  And then the other thing too, in this is actually juice the
• 28:47
  CollegeHumor YouTube channel, at any of you ever seen this
• 28:51
  parody. But there's like a there's like
• 28:56
  a thing where they rewrite the ending of The Dark Knight
• 28:58
  trilogy where they rewrite the ending of The Dark Knight where,
• 29:01
  like where Where I Gordon's like wait a minute, you don't have to
• 29:08
  take the fall for Hari that you can just you can just blame
• 29:11
  everything on the crazed clown and that I thought about that.
• 29:16
  But the problem that is the joke was in a completely different
• 29:19
  location and I don't think it would have made sense actually.
• 29:25
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean that's
• 29:29
  that's a good story then dies in a different location so it
• 29:32
  wouldn't make sense and a Joker's like dang.
• 29:36
  Yeah, I mean I mean yeah I mean that's that's a good point but I
• 29:40
  mean again those are just like to very minor flaws.
• 29:43
  I have what the Dark Knight right.
• 29:45
  Other than that it is a perfect movie.
• 29:47
  Now, as far as like the World building in this one, like with
• 29:51
  the with the mob and whatnot. I really adore that because like
• 29:58
  in the comics especially like in the 80s during Batman year One
• 30:02
  like Before the before I could get the Rogues Gallery.
• 30:07
  So to speak, like the mob in Gotham is like Batman's main,
• 30:15
  you know, like antagonist for like the first like Roughly two
• 30:21
  to three years of his crayons. So the fact that they really
• 30:24
  focused on that you know I'm like and then introduce the
• 30:30
  lighter The Riddler kind of as an ailment, you know, outside.
• 30:35
  That was really good. I like that but then and then
• 30:39
  there's the thing. It doesn't make sense with that,
• 30:41
  that they do in this movie, is after the car, chase with
• 30:44
  penguin, which I didn't think it was as great as people say it
• 30:47
  is. Honestly, I thought it was
• 30:49
  goodish but it's kind of, like, The camera with the way the
• 30:53
  cameras work and I couldn't really tell what was going on
• 30:55
  sometimes and wasn't, as it wasn't as throwing as I thought
• 31:01
  it would be, but by the end of it, like penguin, like just
• 31:04
  fucking like, messes up this entire Highway and him and
• 31:08
  Gordon like, you know, they hadn't against the wall later
• 31:12
  and they're getting answers out of him.
• 31:13
  And then they just leave them like, this is a guy that's like
• 31:17
  committed so many. Yo, broken.
• 31:19
  So many laws and they just leave them.
• 31:20
  And I. Yeah.
• 31:21
  Yeah, he's an alien is because he needs to kill.
• 31:23
  What's his face at the end of it.
• 31:27
  Yeah, that that. And that does kind of like that
• 31:32
  does kind of annoy me. And I guess part of the reason
• 31:36
  why they did that is because they're setting up Colin
• 31:38
  Farrell's like Penguin series on HBO but like they can do that.
• 31:44
  I mean, there's no way you can do that.
• 31:45
  But this is just a, it's a plot hole because they were arrested
• 31:49
  him. I mean, maybe he breaks out of
• 31:50
  jail. You could do shit like that.
• 31:52
  Yeah, I have penguin break out of jail or something like like
• 31:55
  That or you know, no, Chapo. I mean, that's what it feels
• 31:58
  like is one of those guys has so much influence and people are
• 32:01
  were the he could like buy people off the em out of jail
• 32:04
  you know. Right.
• 32:05
  Exactly. How absolutely have something
• 32:06
  like that. You know but then when rulers in
• 32:10
  jail he of course bumps into the Joker, any other cell Which I
• 32:18
  don't know how I feel about that because it's pretty obvious by
• 32:26
  the end of it. But I just, it felt kind of
• 32:31
  forced into the movie to set up a sequel.
• 32:34
  I know, matri skips, keep saying well Hebrew no penis equal now,
• 32:37
  he's going to be in the sequel. It's pretty clear.
• 32:40
  Like it's obvious this shit but I wish it was joaquin's Joker.
• 32:46
  Yes. And that and that's one thing.
• 32:49
  Like I think that's one thing like you and I have talked about
• 32:54
  too is like I feel like this Batman would be Perfect for the
• 33:03
  Joker that we got in Joker. So as much as that joker is a
• 33:08
  very different take. You know, he's more of this
• 33:11
  mentally, unstable idiot which in many ways wouldn't work as
• 33:16
  and Nemesis to Batman. The problem I have is we've had
• 33:20
  like three fucking new Joker's in the past like few years now,
• 33:25
  we had Jared Leto walk Gene. And now this guy and I think
• 33:32
  it's, I'm just kind of, I Won't Say I'm sick of the Joker's, I
• 33:35
  love the choker, it's one of the greatest films ever created, but
• 33:40
  I just feel like it's going to get harder and harder to do
• 33:43
  really good ones that are different.
• 33:45
  And I think we should try doing different films, which is why I
• 33:48
  like about this is a, did the Riddler and the typing pool
• 33:52
  better way, but I don't want to see another Joker because I
• 33:55
  don't think it's going to and I could be wrong.
• 33:56
  Don't get me wrong, they could prove me wrong but Just don't
• 33:59
  think it will work that. Well yeah, well I mean, when I,
• 34:03
  when I saw, when I saw Joe, when I saw Joker and I saw like,
• 34:10
  yeah, I get that he's more mentally unstable and he, you
• 34:14
  know, like he suffers from a mental illness.
• 34:17
  Like I get that like that's kind of the Joker that I would want
• 34:21
  to see face off against Batman, just because, like, I feel like
• 34:26
  that would be so much more. Or.
• 34:30
  Difference, you know, for Badlands of face, you know, as
• 34:34
  well as the like, you know, a mobster which was what Jack
• 34:38
  Nicholson was or NaNa argost, which is well, Ledger was, you
• 34:44
  know, like it would have been different, it would be, and it
• 34:49
  sounds like what they're going for with this one, is that he
• 34:52
  has this facial deformity where he's always smiling and then he
• 34:56
  eventually Embraces it after being bullied with it.
• 34:59
  For it and that is something different.
• 35:01
  I just don't know what's going to really work, but I did like
• 35:06
  the penguin this. I think Colin Farrell is great.
• 35:09
  Probably one of the better performances very
• 35:11
  indistinguishable. I think he's the perfect penguin
• 35:15
  and I think he does. Yeah, well but back to the Wayne
• 35:19
  thing I just thought that was so stupid because initially you're
• 35:25
  like I get kind of pissed cause I'm like oh they're trying to
• 35:28
  make the rich. Bad and they're trying to make
• 35:31
  the, you know, the Wayne's bad which I think is kind of lazy,
• 35:35
  that's done a lot nowadays. Well but then it kind of saves
• 35:39
  itself because it's like, oh, you know, he didn't intend for
• 35:42
  these people to get killed but it gets wrapped up real quickly
• 35:45
  in this one conversation them, like, what was the point of
• 35:47
  that? So, so in the comics and that
• 35:52
  in, in like, in the Long Haul weaned.
• 35:56
  So, okay, so Falcone is Is essentially supposed to be like
• 36:00
  The Godfather. Yeah, type figure in like the
• 36:05
  Batman Universe or to speak. Right.
• 36:08
  Yeah. The fact, the fact they killed
• 36:12
  him off so early in this I mean they didn't come off early in
• 36:16
  the movie, but I mean I guess like he should have stuck around
• 36:20
  for one more movie. I feel like because in the
• 36:24
  comics like he he's actually a very important, you know.
• 36:29
  Character. And I feel like they kind of
• 36:32
  killed him off a little too early on in the series.
• 36:35
  But anyway, so like the whole part about him like going to
• 36:43
  Thomas Wayne for help because he got shot in Thomas Wayne, you
• 36:51
  know, like saved his life like that.
• 36:55
  All, that all happen in the comics.
• 36:59
  And the way the way the Alfred explains that to Bruce, in the
• 37:02
  comics it was well, your dad is your dad.
• 37:06
  Your dad was a doctor. He was a surgeon.
• 37:09
  Yeah. No obviously he wasn't going to,
• 37:13
  you know, turn turn someone down.
• 37:15
  And it helped he didn't. He didn't like it but he's
• 37:19
  still, I get ya and I like that part so I think that's
• 37:22
  interesting. He still did this idea that he
• 37:25
  hired him to kill reporter and it turns out what we just hired
• 37:28
  him The Wake scare them. It's kind of just.
• 37:32
  Yeah. That that's so the whole idea of
• 37:35
  like, demonizing the Wayne's like that something has been.
• 37:39
  Like I, it's been in the comics but it's been like, newer in the
• 37:44
  comics like within them has like five years, which again, it's
• 37:50
  because me and my 6 K. And so yeah, that's what I was
• 37:55
  going to say. It feels like the sort of
• 37:57
  revisionist I don't feel like better term Walker Comics.
• 38:02
  It's just I don't know why. I still don't understand why
• 38:05
  that's in this movie at all because it happens and it's
• 38:09
  resolved quickly and then that's that.
• 38:10
  You could have cut that out. Save a lot of time and I just
• 38:15
  didn't get it. I really didn't understand the
• 38:17
  point of that. Yeah.
• 38:19
  Now, the and how one area where I and we can kind of go into
• 38:24
  this too with that line in particular.
• 38:27
  So, I know that people like Zoe Kravitz, what's interesting to
• 38:33
  me is the people who were really critical, Robert Pattinson for
• 38:38
  some reason, they really like Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman.
• 38:43
  I didn't think she was that great.
• 38:45
  I thought she was fine, but I think she was bad.
• 38:47
  I since yeah, so great about her.
• 38:49
  So, I mean, so here's my take, I think she was.
• 38:54
  I think she was fine to my problem with her.
• 38:58
  Is that like, okay, so Batman's kind of supposed to be like, you
• 39:04
  know, Moody and broody and whatnot.
• 39:07
  Right? Yeah.
• 39:08
  And Catwoman. I mean she's not tatius.
• 39:14
  I guess. Yeah.
• 39:15
  I mean she's not supposed to be like Sawyer over the top like.
• 39:19
  Yeah, she is more flirtatious she is.
• 39:23
  Like more, I guess a seductive. Yeah.
• 39:28
  She doesn't, she'll make like funny quips and the comics like
• 39:33
  and I mean she does a little bit here but I guess part of the
• 39:37
  problem I had with Zoe Kravitz is Catwoman.
• 39:39
  Is there are times where I feel like you know she's supposed to
• 39:45
  like Have like an emotional scene, you know, or like she's
• 39:49
  supposed to like be kind backing like like, you know, like
• 39:53
  Catwoman but just because I and I don't know if it's because
• 39:56
  she's a new actor or what but she just kind of comes off.
• 39:59
  It's like wooden or like her performance.
• 40:03
  Feels a little forced to me is she doesn't come off as sexy.
• 40:08
  That's the problem. I think what's interesting about
• 40:11
  that character is that yeah there's a sort of sexy appeal to
• 40:15
  it doesn't have to be like you said, Doesn't have to be over
• 40:17
  the top, but I think what could have been interesting and I,
• 40:22
  this is going to sound contradictory, but I love the
• 40:24
  serious tone. This move a lofted, it's not a
• 40:28
  joke, every five minutes, right? But I think Catwoman could have
• 40:31
  helped given it a little more levity and I can tell that's
• 40:34
  what she kind of does, but I think that would have made it
• 40:38
  again interesting contrast to Bruce because Bruce is being old
• 40:40
  or Batman is being all Moody and broody.
• 40:43
  And she's trying to be all like cheerful and and happier.
• 40:46
  You're not very cheerful but just lighter and right, right.
• 40:49
  Yeah. More like this sort of YOLO, you
• 40:52
  know, I'm just going to like, she's kind of sort of edgy girl,
• 40:56
  that's, that really doesn't give a fuck but in a sort of, but
• 41:00
  she's funny and that's, you know, those sort of people in
• 41:03
  your life they're kind of like these are yellow people, but
• 41:05
  they're really funny. Well that and well and that's
• 41:08
  that's horrible that's her role in the comic book, you know to.
• 41:12
  So I like the fact that they, you know, and again You know,
• 41:17
  she could be coming back for future movies, who knows?
• 41:21
  Yeah, I don't left open, I don't think she's bad.
• 41:25
  I just think possibly because she's, you know, a new actor
• 41:29
  like maybe, you know, I don't know what else she is.
• 41:34
  I mean, I know she's probably acting like some smaller filmed
• 41:37
  but but she just seems, I guess newer to the whole thing.
• 41:42
  And yeah, well, I think to the whole way she gets tied into
• 41:46
  this where she's trying to find her friend.
• 41:50
  I don't understand why that's so important to her.
• 41:53
  Yeah, the front the friend thing feels The friend thing, feels
• 42:02
  real out of place. Now the whole thing with her
• 42:05
  being Falcone's dog that twisty, that's a Twist.
• 42:10
  I like and that actually is like, that actually is That
• 42:18
  actually is from the comics but she doesn't get to confront him
• 42:23
  in the comics. Not that what happens is, he
• 42:26
  gets assassinated later on by the Penguin and then like she
• 42:33
  finds out like years later through like a paternity.
• 42:38
  Do like some DNA tests like she's, you know, like his
• 42:43
  daughter or something, right? It's I think it's him.
• 42:48
  Find here. I just think the friend thing to
• 42:51
  be her motivation to gain. So this was weak because you're
• 42:55
  like well, who's this friend? Why should I give a shit?
• 42:58
  And I have lots of friends and me if they died I'd be sad.
• 43:01
  But I'm not going to go on my way like this, like hunt down
• 43:04
  the killer because that's a cop's job and it just seems like
• 43:08
  if this was a friend who You know, if there was, if you found
• 43:13
  that lay like the friend, like, saved her from Falcone or
• 43:15
  something, or a relative or fills her sister or if it was
• 43:20
  her mother, like there could have been just something else.
• 43:24
  That makes it more like oh shit. I feel bad for her.
• 43:28
  She should really do that. It just felt weird and yeah
• 43:32
  there's you know, there's no, that's the whole problem in that
• 43:39
  third Act. Is that their fuck no steaks.
• 43:41
  Because if the rulers already in jail, if you know, you know,
• 43:46
  Batman's going to be fine by the end of the day, I'm just like,
• 43:50
  okay Batman Scotty, you know, finish this shit up and that's
• 43:55
  it. Like there's no stakes and that
• 43:58
  makes the third I kind of boring then.
• 44:00
  And I point a sense of like I'm like, literally bored but just
• 44:03
  not exciting. And whereas, in the beginning,
• 44:07
  it's very exciting cause you don't know who's going to be
• 44:08
  killed next and was all those Oh, shit.
• 44:11
  Going on. But it's just very fell flat
• 44:14
  there and I don't know what they were thinking, honestly.
• 44:17
  And with Catwoman, the wrap, my thoughts up with her that woke
• 44:20
  line. Just pisses me the fuck off
• 44:22
  because it doesn't need to be in the movie.
• 44:24
  Yes. Movie I would have like,
• 44:26
  literally add an extra point or half point.
• 44:28
  My school, my score for this because it just takes me out of
• 44:31
  it, and it's stupid. So, let's go, what's died.
• 44:35
  Let's dive into that specifically, actually, if we,
• 44:39
  if we met because, again, that's I that one of the reasons why it
• 44:43
  kind of Falls hard for me too, so that line a bunch of, you
• 44:55
  know, she makes the comment about how, you know, they're
• 44:58
  they're a bunch of rich white, you know, men, In Gotham or, you
• 45:05
  know, or something to that effect, right?
• 45:08
  Well, it's really, this is the thing is, it's really one word
• 45:12
  that makes this sting. Yeah, white.
• 45:16
  If you just said, Richmond or rich people, it would have been
• 45:20
  fine. Lily, would have been fine, it's
• 45:23
  still kind of comes out of left field, but it would have been
• 45:24
  fine. It's a fact that it makes her
• 45:27
  racial, but yeah, is not necessary and pisses me off
• 45:31
  because Catwoman throughout Whole thing, she doesn't do any
• 45:37
  cat but I mean, she does steal money from the criminals.
• 45:40
  But you don't get the sense that she's this sort of, I hate the
• 45:45
  Rich or I'm a social justice Warrior.
• 45:49
  You just get the sense that she's poor trying to make ends
• 45:52
  meet right. He works for way into the mob
• 45:55
  and takes their money and that's fine.
• 45:57
  That is fine. And I like that the fact that
• 46:01
  they had to make it about rich, white men is Stupid.
• 46:04
  And I doesn't need to be there and it just talked in my theater
• 46:09
  to. I was just kind of like fuck
• 46:12
  this, fuck that. Like, in my head, I'm like that.
• 46:15
  But one person with you is like like almost sort of cheering at
• 46:19
  it, but I really nobody else was it was just such a bullshit line
• 46:23
  and I just don't get it. It's just really annoyed me.
• 46:27
  But I had to keep saying myself case, just one line.
• 46:30
  It's just one line is just one lines, just one line, don't let
• 46:33
  you. Kill the whole movie.
• 46:34
  But you know, it is what it is. I think the mood be woken.
• 46:39
  I Don't think it is, but that makes me question and I, if
• 46:44
  they're mine wasn't there, I wouldn't have to start
• 46:46
  questioning it. Okay?
• 46:49
  Okay, so here are my thoughts on online, so because it did bother
• 46:55
  me too, but it bothered me for a different reason.
• 46:59
  Well, okay, it bothered me for the same reason and for the
• 47:03
  different reasons reason to so Which are kind of the same
• 47:08
  thing, it's kind of weird. So, okay, so that line about,
• 47:15
  you know, the the rich, you know, people like - the - the
• 47:23
  one word, which is white that line that she gives is right out
• 47:28
  of the Long Haul. Weaned like, like, literally -
• 47:33
  that one word, it's like word. Forward.
• 47:38
  So I'm like, I'm like I'm like I'm like oh cool like whoever,
• 47:43
  you know whoever, right? Whoever like wrote the script,
• 47:46
  like they really did read the comic book like this is cool.
• 47:49
  And then like she adds in like the white thing.
• 47:52
  And I'm like, wait wait wait, why, why did they add?
• 47:59
  Why did they add that? Like, it's basically, like they,
• 48:04
  it's basically like they took like a perfectly good.
• 48:07
  Fine, I'm going to that. What do I didn't need to be
• 48:09
  changed? And what are they part of a
• 48:12
  comic book? And then just to fit modern-day
• 48:17
  sensibilities or whatever which was Walter Hamad has doing.
• 48:23
  He's on his basically like he's the big social justice head
• 48:28
  honcho at DC now. So and he was an executive
• 48:33
  producer because I did stay and watch the end credits.
• 48:37
  And once I saw his name under like executive producer, I'm
• 48:40
  like I'm like, oh that's where that Line came from but yeah,
• 48:48
  like it was funny because like, they were there were like in
• 48:53
  granted, I'm in Florida. So pretty conservative State
• 48:56
  like they were. There were like, a couple of
• 49:00
  groans would be like, even like, even from like the even from
• 49:04
  some of the black people in the theater, like there was, there
• 49:06
  was this one black guy who actually like, Who like it was
• 49:13
  like, man. We don't, we don't need to be
• 49:17
  talking about race in a Batman movie.
• 49:20
  True. I just, I came here.
• 49:24
  I came in with my, I came here with my family, this was like
• 49:27
  afterwards. I over I over time.
• 49:29
  He's like, he's like, man. I just want, I just want to go
• 49:32
  to the, to the movies to escape from the war from the world,
• 49:36
  like not be reminded of all Us in, and that's why pissed.
• 49:41
  You know, if it's so real. Yeah, I mean, so true because
• 49:46
  that's kind of tricky thing with this movie.
• 49:47
  Is on the one hand, it's very reflective of the world, we live
• 49:50
  in and that's why Y, equals X don't like some.
• 49:53
  Like I don't want to, I don't want to live in that world the
• 49:55
  movies. But yeah, that was well, I mean
• 50:02
  Thing that I would, I the thing I like is that this is that for
• 50:08
  the most part, I feel like this this movie actually is
• 50:12
  reflective and like a realistic way of how the world is as
• 50:16
  opposed to as opposed to like the social justice realm, okay.
• 50:22
  Roger is whose cat woman falling in love with a rich white man.
• 50:28
  That's what got me is like right.
• 50:30
  Start seeing maybe it's not work but now it is woke line but it
• 50:34
  just is like very ironic that she falls for the rich white
• 50:38
  male. So well, although and although,
• 50:40
  in this Parliament album, this version like she doesn't yet
• 50:44
  know that. Like that Bruce is Batman, which
• 50:48
  is yeah. Which is kind of interesting
• 50:52
  because like, she actually like figures out pretty early on in
• 50:57
  the comic books. The like that, you know, Bruce's
• 51:02
  is Batman. Oh, okay.
• 51:03
  So that's my other problem. With the third Act is like the
• 51:07
  Riddler like basically like basically just like deducing
• 51:14
  that that Bruce is Batman, that really reduces but then he
• 51:19
  realizes he were, you think he has, but he really hasn't I
• 51:25
  don't know if you picked up on that, but that was kind of what
• 51:27
  happens at the end. Is he thinks youth you the
• 51:31
  audience thinks he's to do stuff, but he really hasn't.
• 51:36
  Oh, maybe I'm misreading it but that's kind of how I interpret
• 51:41
  it. Yeah.
• 51:42
  Using don't get me wrong. So my thoughts on the?
• 51:51
  So I have again, I have mixed feelings on that third act
• 51:56
  because I don't I don't mind the flooding itself because that
• 52:02
  flooding believe or not is from a store called.
• 52:10
  No man's land where Gotham Illinois does flood?
• 52:15
  I think that would be fine if they set it up and it's like, oh
• 52:19
  God. No sea walls.
• 52:20
  I didn't fucking know that. Yeah.
• 52:22
  But they but they didn't it said, well, and the other thing
• 52:26
  too is like the so in the comic book, basically Gotham gets
• 52:34
  like, hit by an earthquake, which basically the like, Breaks
• 52:39
  down the sea walls like no one's, no one's really at fault
• 52:43
  for it. But just like, you know, because
• 52:46
  it's like, you know, a natural a, you know, thing that happens
• 52:50
  but because of that basically like, you know, all the kernels
• 52:55
  to get like let out, you know, because the power grid like
• 52:59
  shuts down. So all the criminals break out
• 53:01
  and basically like Gotham becomes like a big Shit shit.
• 53:05
  Like if that happened, I would have been okay with the ball.
• 53:09
  Like the fact like Riddler purposely at the last minute,
• 53:12
  like makes that happen is just like why?
• 53:18
  Like honestly understand why he does it.
• 53:20
  I, his rationale is so that we can have like all the rich
• 53:25
  people like that. Not rich people, to corrupt
• 53:26
  people centered in one place. We can shoot them, but it's
• 53:32
  doesn't make a lot of sense like that, not wouldn't We happen and
• 53:35
  it probably be protected, so we couldn't do that.
• 53:38
  And then he has all these like, people come in as just like him
• 53:41
  and try to shoot them. And it's just a little weird and
• 53:44
  then they shoot her, the mayor candidate at, who's clearly a
• 53:48
  progressive. And then she survives, I
• 53:51
  actually would have thought it would have been so much better
• 53:54
  because this is my thought. They were going to do, and it
• 53:55
  surprised me. I wish they killed her.
• 53:58
  That would have been actually surprising.
• 54:00
  And it would have been like, oh shit, he actually got her.
• 54:04
  Even when he was in jail, he got her killed.
• 54:07
  Basically, the guy that would have been so much cooler, but
• 54:11
  it's like Alfred he almost dies but dozen, which I was fine with
• 54:13
  that because we didn't get enough of Alfred but the mayor
• 54:16
  can ship and killed. Big mistake.
• 54:20
  I actually, I actually, I actually agree with.
• 54:24
  I actually agree with you on that.
• 54:28
  You know. I think I think story-wise that
• 54:33
  would have worked. I can see why they didn't go
• 54:37
  that way. Yeah, because because, you know,
• 54:43
  if they had like black lives matter and Ben Ben, like you
• 54:48
  kill the backlight off screen and by and by the way, that
• 54:53
  mayor actually does is actually from the konk konk, but like she
• 54:58
  comes in much later and A person's career too.
• 55:04
  And so, okay, so one thing I want to ask you is, what did you
• 55:09
  think of Gordon in this film? I think the acting was solid,
• 55:17
  not as good as Gary Oldman, but yeah, I would agree, but Very
• 55:25
  initiative, really liked it. I liked the relationship but
• 55:28
  then I realize we're in. Didn't do anything.
• 55:32
  We did nothing. I asked for liked about the
• 55:35
  Nolan trilogies that Batman can do his thing and then Gordon can
• 55:40
  do his thing. And then when they work
• 55:42
  together, that's where the magic happens.
• 55:45
  But with this one, Batman does everything and Gordon?
• 55:50
  Yeah. He lets me in the crime scenes.
• 55:51
  But Gordon doesn't do anything. Doesn't solve anything.
• 55:54
  Riddles, he doesn't get anyone or do anything like he's kind of
• 56:00
  he's not as you lies as I thought he would be nice.
• 56:03
  He should be. That really was.
• 56:07
  Disappointing was like a dark night.
• 56:08
  Like first of all, he fakes his death, and then he literally
• 56:11
  arrest The Joker. I mean, you feel like and this
• 56:16
  one, you feel like Gordon is like in an unwinnable battle and
• 56:20
  he's also kind of like giving up and doesn't do anything weird.
• 56:24
  isn't Dark Knight, he's kind of you know he's in a tough spot,
• 56:28
  he's you know, having trouble but he's such a powerful smart,
• 56:35
  cunning and persisting guy that he cuts through the, the Lagoon
• 56:41
  and is able to do good things, the thing that I guess also,
• 56:50
  Kind of bug me about this Gordon a bit.
• 56:54
  And well, wasn't so much with Gordon and sell, but the way
• 56:59
  they write with some things, like the fact, like he actually
• 57:03
  did bring Batman into like the crime scenes with the cops.
• 57:09
  Like on the room, did kind of bug me a little bit only because
• 57:16
  in the comics and also like in the Dark Knight trilogy, a bit
• 57:20
  like Gordon would wait for like cops to Out in the room right by
• 57:26
  early and then and then bring Batman.
• 57:30
  Whereas like, where's like this patent is is just like walking
• 57:34
  around, you know, with the cops on him in like, we're told were
• 57:40
  told that the Cod that the cops like hate Batman but it's like,
• 57:45
  well they don't hate him enough because clearly like, they're
• 57:49
  fine, bloody men. Yeah, Cleo like, they might not
• 57:52
  be happy to get that. That, you know, he's there but,
• 57:58
  you know, he's like, why can't I do?
• 58:02
  The one that makes it less interesting because was
• 58:04
  interesting in the Dark Knight trilogy and I've ever Batman's
• 58:08
  that Gordon's like the one God they'll work with Batman.
• 58:12
  The One Cop the work with Batman.
• 58:14
  Whereas everybody else hates him because he's this vigilante and
• 58:18
  Goran is like shit. Like I've no better option.
• 58:20
  I got work with this guy and so he has kind of under the table
• 58:23
  work with him. And this is no wonder the table.
• 58:26
  It's just out in the open. Yeah.
• 58:29
  This this scene to in the police station, where like, where like
• 58:34
  they bring them back but they never took off his mask or
• 58:37
  something. Yeah, I know sets.
• 58:39
  His first thing I thought was like, oh they're going to find
• 58:42
  out who he is. Oh no, he saw this mask on.
• 58:44
  You could argue Gordon stop that but that Siri implied which
• 58:49
  clearly is kind of what happened, kind of off screen but
• 58:53
  like But even so, like like they could have been like, no.
• 59:00
  Like I'm like no Gordon. We're doing it.
• 59:03
  We're doing it. And anyway and then have like
• 59:05
  Gordon get into a fight against one of his like that he was that
• 59:09
  to me would have been much more interesting.
• 59:12
  What someone someone cracked someone cracked a joke, the on
• 59:18
  Reddit that like The like Batman hitting Gordon button basically
• 59:24
  knocking him out is basically what that thing does.
• 59:29
  Yeah basically does does every time he disappears.
• 59:36
  Yeah and that's that's why we I mean I do.
• 59:41
  I do like the fact though that we also get like a Batman who
• 59:45
  doesn't like quite know how how to like yeah this is You're like
• 59:50
  that yet and like ya do. Do you like always of them
• 59:55
  things like you know I like the vulnerable vulnerable Miss to
• 1:00:00
  him which again the problem against prawns I third act and
• 1:00:03
  some the other characters that, you know, when you remove those
• 1:00:06
  steaks it gets boring, but that was what was cool about him, is
• 1:00:08
  that he's kind of rough around the edges.
• 1:00:11
  A rookie at this and not very good yet.
• 1:00:14
  And I thought that was interesting.
• 1:00:16
  And, you know, even though that cops, you know, scene has some
• 1:00:20
  problems. One thing I loved was once
• 1:00:24
  Punches Gordon. He puts that fuckin zip line up
• 1:00:27
  goes flying up those stairs, beautiful shot like it's epic.
• 1:00:32
  I love that part and then he gets the rooftop and you're
• 1:00:36
  like, oh my God, he's gonna fly, he's going to do it.
• 1:00:39
  And then he's kind of like, oh shit, this is scary.
• 1:00:42
  This is high up, you know, and you see that it was great acting
• 1:00:46
  by parents and it's such a small thing, but it's, you could feel
• 1:00:50
  his fear. And his, you could tell
• 1:00:52
  mediately know. No words, you could tell he
• 1:00:55
  hasn't done this before. This is first time doing this,
• 1:00:58
  like he's completely scared. He's like, you know, that was my
• 1:01:01
  impression. I mean, maybe he has done it but
• 1:01:03
  you could tell that he had done this at least a lot.
• 1:01:06
  You tell you, he was scared to do this and then he would sell
• 1:01:09
  freaking like um squirrel suit, which I thought was really cool
• 1:01:13
  because it's very realistic. Now how he crashes his a little
• 1:01:17
  defying physics because he somehow survives that but that
• 1:01:22
  was my only problem with that. And I thought his flight was a
• 1:01:25
  really cool. I wish you went a little bit
• 1:01:27
  longer but when he crashes, I like that he crash.
• 1:01:31
  I just didn't like how he crashed.
• 1:01:32
  Because he literally like fling, some up and hits a fucking like
• 1:01:35
  metal bridge and he's just fine after that.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  I'm like yeah, that, that was kind of that would tarnish.
• 1:01:45
  Yeah, that, that was, that was kind of a little ridiculous.
• 1:01:48
  It in my mom, my mom and I were in the, the next to each other
• 1:01:52
  and she leans over to me. Amigos, if that were actually in
• 1:01:56
  real life and he had hit a bridge like that, he'd be dead.
• 1:02:00
  Yeah. I don't like movies do that.
• 1:02:04
  Because it's such an easy thing. You could have fixed.
• 1:02:07
  You could have had some other bullshit way he lands, but it's
• 1:02:11
  believable. That was just yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Like I was like, oh, come on like, he would have died from
• 1:02:17
  that. I mean, that's just was
• 1:02:18
  ridiculous. Okay.
• 1:02:20
  So the so the other weird thing kind of Similar to that.
• 1:02:25
  So Talking about the third acting weird.
• 1:02:30
  One of the things that, like, one of the things that like, get
• 1:02:35
  that, like kind of gets me is, there's like a, there's like a
• 1:02:40
  part in the third act, we're like, we're like Batman gets
• 1:02:46
  shot in like someplace in his armor.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah. And like it seems like he's
• 1:02:53
  critically hit, right? Like puts the adrenaline in the
• 1:02:58
  Adrenaline and just kind of goes at it.
• 1:03:00
  Well okay, so that yes that was my question was like was that
• 1:03:05
  was that reference to like was that just adrenaline and was
• 1:03:09
  that you know, whatever Bain has and if so often people are
• 1:03:15
  saying it's what Bane has but I'm not sure well to me to me,
• 1:03:20
  that would be awesome to me. That would be a one word, it
• 1:03:22
  ridiculous though, because like, we haven't even because like we
• 1:03:27
  haven't even, In Benders do strabane.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah. And and bay bands.
• 1:03:32
  The one who I like develops. That serum.
• 1:03:34
  Not Batman. So, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:38
  That's my problem with that too. Isn't it kind of comes out of
• 1:03:41
  left field to, which is okay because all those gadgets kind
• 1:03:46
  of do but it was just a little weird.
• 1:03:51
  And and I don't understand to like after that again he's
• 1:03:55
  technically fine. Like I don't Understand the gun
• 1:04:01
  physics in this. What I mean by that is it seems
• 1:04:03
  like he can get shot anywhere but the head.
• 1:04:05
  He's fine. But why was that shot worse than
• 1:04:11
  others? I mean, there's that one scene
• 1:04:13
  by scene where he's in that hallway and all the gun Flair is
• 1:04:19
  lighting up the ring. Exactly.
• 1:04:22
  And he shot like a hundred times.
• 1:04:24
  I mean it's really cool. But if he survives that, why Why
• 1:04:28
  is the shotgun blast like the putting him down?
• 1:04:32
  Yeah, he's yeah. He's, yeah, thank you, that.
• 1:04:35
  That's it, guys, that's a guy when I was going to say I like
• 1:04:38
  heavy machine-gun, fire just bounces off as long as I like no
• 1:04:42
  problem, no problem. Which it, which is really cool.
• 1:04:46
  But then you mean to tell me that like that bird shot from a
• 1:04:50
  shotgun is the thing that like But you know that like cripples
• 1:04:56
  and basically like you could argue his armor was weakened by
• 1:05:01
  that point I guess you could argue that.
• 1:05:03
  But yeah but I mean not I mean I mean yeah I guess so.
• 1:05:11
  But even even though it's like I would have believed that if it
• 1:05:14
  were like us if it were like a higher caliber, you know.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah not birdshot. What have we got?
• 1:05:21
  What have we got a shot with? So yeah.
• 1:05:26
  I mean, honestly, so, here's my advice to take that third Act,
• 1:05:36
  honestly, they could have just ended the movie with like, With
• 1:05:40
  like, with like Riddler being arrested in the cafe and then
• 1:05:45
  like maybe setting things up for like the future and that's how
• 1:05:50
  they could have ended the movie. I wouldn't I would have been
• 1:05:53
  fine with that and then maybe doing the flooding or whatever
• 1:05:57
  doing that third act like as the beginning of Batman too.
• 1:06:04
  Well there, I think the problem is that the river became People
• 1:06:12
  that they could surprise you with to kill.
• 1:06:14
  So they just went for the whole fucking City getting flooded and
• 1:06:18
  that mayor can again she's I mean, she's kind of brought up
• 1:06:20
  become forget about her. I would have like some sort of
• 1:06:24
  surprise with the Riddler at the end that was the promise of
• 1:06:26
  really wasn't. And that, that Roy gets the
• 1:06:29
  general problem with this movie is that, there's nothing to blew
• 1:06:31
  me away. There's nothing really new or
• 1:06:34
  fresh. I mean, was it a fresh take on
• 1:06:36
  Batman? Kind of like we hadn't seen
• 1:06:38
  sunscreen before, but as you said, It's very Comics accurate.
• 1:06:41
  There's nothing that blew me away.
• 1:06:43
  This is really to be alive. I just need to be one thing.
• 1:06:46
  It could have been some sort of good twist at the end.
• 1:06:48
  It could have been some sort of good surprise kill or something.
• 1:06:52
  I don't know what it would have been.
• 1:06:53
  I mean I'll be honest but that is what it needs to really sell
• 1:06:57
  me at the end of it. The serial killer from The
• 1:07:00
  Riddler did kind of Blow Me Away only because I'm like wow that's
• 1:07:06
  new. We've never actually seen
• 1:07:08
  Riddler get his hands. Dirty dirty before really.
• 1:07:14
  So I did like I did like that Alan.
• 1:07:16
  But again, just I feel like You know, I honestly like in this is
• 1:07:23
  something that unfortunately has happened while since the Dark
• 1:07:27
  Knight is. I feel like Heath Ledger set the
• 1:07:31
  bar so high. Yeah.
• 1:07:34
  That like that they kind of try to make rid of learn to like
• 1:07:39
  want to be Joker with like the high-stakes huh at the end
• 1:07:43
  because I'm like I'm like those. I'm like those high stakes to
• 1:07:46
  destroy the city like that's not a riddle and thing to do.
• 1:07:50
  That's a joke or thing. Yeah and it's just again that
• 1:07:54
  53. I just feel so like different
• 1:07:57
  from the rest of them. Very ironic.
• 1:08:00
  I mean, it feels like somebody different Road.
• 1:08:02
  It's just so weird. yeah, ironically, even though it's
• 1:08:11
  even though it's You know, even though it's like a three hour
• 1:08:19
  movie that third act feels like they rushed through it almost.
• 1:08:24
  So yeah, and I mean, I think they were like, sort of trying
• 1:08:29
  to get this argh with Batman because at the end of the to I
• 1:08:33
  kind of felt and I see it. Now, by kind of felt like what
• 1:08:37
  was the point of all that? Well, what's the theme here?
• 1:08:41
  What's the message here? I I was kind of just confused.
• 1:08:45
  I'm like, well what The point of all that, like, okay, there's
• 1:08:49
  this case that they don't really solve it, and they kind of do
• 1:08:55
  it. Just was like, very strange.
• 1:08:59
  And I have realized later that the point was a Batman is kind
• 1:09:02
  of trying to figure out who he is and what he's got to do, but
• 1:09:07
  they didn't explore it enough and they could have because
• 1:09:10
  there were things could have caught and they could have and I
• 1:09:13
  think they could have done something more They're like some
• 1:09:17
  sort of kill or something that makes Batman, confront that idea
• 1:09:20
  more. I mean, it could have been just
• 1:09:24
  more creative. I think that's really what I'm
• 1:09:26
  trying to say. Is that yeah, very sort of lazy
• 1:09:29
  typical Hollywood and not interesting or creative, which
• 1:09:31
  the rest of the movie was shaping towards that?
• 1:09:35
  Well, well, the one thing I didn't like about this about
• 1:09:39
  this movie either. Is that like, Okay, so, So this
• 1:09:47
  Alfred right? We don't want to get.
• 1:09:49
  We don't really get like a lot of screen time with Alfred.
• 1:09:53
  Right? Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  And I think there was fine but I would have liked more I mean so
• 1:10:00
  okay. So my whole thing was they
• 1:10:04
  should have given Alfred slightly more screen time.
• 1:10:07
  If they were going to kill, you know like do the assassination
• 1:10:12
  attempt thing like like they did because like, Okay so the one
• 1:10:20
  thing I love about the Dark Knight trilogy aside from
• 1:10:25
  Christian Bale is Michael came, it's not perfect.
• 1:10:29
  Michael Caine is the perfect Alfred and like they actually
• 1:10:34
  they actually give the Alfred a lot to do in those movies.
• 1:10:38
  Like he's actually like He's actually like a, you know, a you
• 1:10:43
  know, he I mean, he's, he's Bruce's thought father, you
• 1:10:48
  know, in this, you know in those movies and he is here but to but
• 1:10:53
  I feel like he just plays like the I'm Batman's butler /
• 1:10:58
  assistant, you know. So like when he got you know,
• 1:11:06
  when he went like he was in the hospital like yeah, those
• 1:11:09
  steaks, kind of fun. Those things were there but it's
• 1:11:13
  only because like it's Alfred and we know that I was supposed
• 1:11:17
  to be those steaks, like it would have been much higher.
• 1:11:20
  If that had been like Michael Caine's Alfred, you know, that
• 1:11:25
  was like a quintessential, you know, actually had like more
• 1:11:29
  character development, you know. The one thing I will say that I
• 1:11:33
  liked that was a good twist that that, that really got everybody.
• 1:11:38
  My theater is when you hear that phone ringing.
• 1:11:41
  Everybody's like a for. Don't pick up the phone for,
• 1:11:44
  don't know, to pick up the phone, like a, for whatever you
• 1:11:47
  do. Don't open that letter.
• 1:11:47
  Pick up the phone. Pick up the phone.
• 1:11:49
  Come on, come on. But then you realize The
• 1:11:53
  Batman's actually calling that woman.
• 1:11:56
  I don't remember who she was and not actually Alfred.
• 1:12:00
  I thought that was really well done because you thought he was
• 1:12:02
  trying to call him and he wasn't picking up for whatever reason,
• 1:12:05
  right? I thought that was really good,
• 1:12:09
  but then again, you know, it's one of those things that, like
• 1:12:13
  you said, you didn't get enough. Emotional investment of
• 1:12:16
  Alfred's, really feel. It other than just like, oh my
• 1:12:19
  God, it's Alfred so I just then, that's why, I guess why mixed
• 1:12:24
  feelings as movies. Because there's so many things I
• 1:12:25
  like and then there's a good chunk of things.
• 1:12:28
  It just bugged me. Yeah.
• 1:12:31
  I mean, so, I mean, in general, I would still write it, you
• 1:12:35
  know, pretty high, you know. Maybe now I like, I would, I
• 1:12:41
  would still get like a 9. Maybe not like a 915 again, you
• 1:12:46
  know? Still like this is like
• 1:12:49
  everything I wanted. And everything I wanted in the
• 1:12:54
  Batman movie. I got which you know like we got
• 1:12:59
  the TRU like film, Noir setting. We got the detective story and
• 1:13:07
  you know those old ones were like ones that you know I think
• 1:13:11
  everyone wanted and we got all the characters are were strong
• 1:13:16
  and you know. Yeah other than that line.
• 1:13:19
  It wasn't. It wasn't to woke and I really
• 1:13:24
  hope that like I really do hope that like Hollywood continues to
• 1:13:27
  realize the like that. That's the direction to trend is
• 1:13:31
  like was woke because like I guess here's my thing is like
• 1:13:40
  this the Star Wars Trilogy the new one that does neutrality is
• 1:13:45
  the woke assist. Shit I've ever seen.
• 1:13:50
  And so my my my kind of skip the scale now is Is not so much.
• 1:13:59
  Is woke. Its well, is it Disney levels of
• 1:14:03
  woke? And it was not like I can hide
• 1:14:06
  it. All right it.
• 1:14:08
  So Mmm. Well I think too that the
• 1:14:14
  technical stuff they nailed completely nailed.
• 1:14:17
  Oh yeah across the board. It's the Characters.
• 1:14:22
  They mostly nail the storytelling and the plot, which
• 1:14:27
  is most important thing is Brad the issues.
• 1:14:30
  So I just it kind of frustrating me for that reason, is because
• 1:14:36
  in this point, because it had everything they are, like, most
• 1:14:40
  of the ingredients were there. It's I just don't understand why
• 1:14:43
  it couldn't stick The Landing at the end.
• 1:14:45
  I yeah, I do kind of feel like also, you can you mention In the
• 1:14:51
  Batmobile I feel like I feel like that scene was way too
• 1:14:55
  short or if I feel like they could.
• 1:14:58
  I feel like they could have used the Batman that Batmobile just
• 1:15:01
  more in general. What what look wise that is my
• 1:15:05
  that's my favorite Batmobile on on screen.
• 1:15:11
  But we didn't we didn't get enough of it in my, in my book.
• 1:15:15
  Oh yeah. I think it's one of the biggest
• 1:15:19
  fan of its looks but I think like you said was kind of
• 1:15:24
  underused, I mean II mean. I like it.
• 1:15:28
  The one thing that the bug me about The Dark Knight trilogy
• 1:15:32
  was, was the was the tumbler, or whatever.
• 1:15:36
  It's called. Because I'm like, because I'm
• 1:15:39
  like yeah, no there's no way that thing would real it would
• 1:15:43
  realistically be going on like the roads without like crushing,
• 1:15:48
  you know, like not even like Not even like, you know, like on
• 1:15:53
  purpose but what just like crushing rhinos, civilian cars
• 1:15:57
  and what not like, you know, so to me like that, man, having
• 1:16:02
  like a souped-up, a sports car. Just seemed like, much more
• 1:16:06
  realistic. I don't know.
• 1:16:08
  I like the concept of it. I think the design is a little
• 1:16:11
  goofy with, like, the engine sticking out the back and I
• 1:16:15
  think it like, like I said, it's kind of fine, but it just I like
• 1:16:21
  about the Tumblers that if it makes a lot of sense because
• 1:16:24
  it's this armored vehicle, or he's actually pursue protected.
• 1:16:28
  I mean, this one. Yeah, it's got the book Proof
• 1:16:30
  glass, but others should could easily be shot.
• 1:16:33
  Its didn't make the most sense in a lot of ways.
• 1:16:36
  Well, and willens supposedly to like, keep in mind, this is
• 1:16:41
  Batman very early on is great. So, what Matt Reeves has said,
• 1:16:45
  is that, like, we're going to get upgrades over time?
• 1:16:50
  Yeah. And that's why I was suspecting
• 1:16:51
  and that's why I hope for two was stuff, too.
• 1:16:57
  So, Well, great, man. Any final thoughts.
• 1:17:03
  Any thoughts? Just done movies in general, I
• 1:17:08
  guess. Well, the last thing I'll say,
• 1:17:11
  is, what do you think of the uses in their Bona song?
• 1:17:15
  I, well, I mean, I'm kind of from the generation that likes
• 1:17:22
  Nirvana. I don't know if it's, I don't
• 1:17:25
  know, if Zoomer. If zoomy zoom, whirs are into.
• 1:17:31
  Orange a Nirvana, a lot of them have the T-shirt, but don't know
• 1:17:35
  what the hell it is. You know, I was kind of worried
• 1:17:41
  about it because I was kind of like, oh, great just another
• 1:17:49
  just another excuse to use, a Nirvana song for an install.
• 1:17:54
  But the, but the way they the way they like Incorporated in,
• 1:17:59
  it was actually like It like it wasn't like amazing, but I think
• 1:18:09
  it fit well and this. So I think it definitely was
• 1:18:15
  something different for Batman. Least it kind of works.
• 1:18:19
  It didn't take me, you know, I didn't hate it.
• 1:18:23
  I kind of, I like that. The first time it was used.
• 1:18:28
  I think it was fine. I probably if I were directing
• 1:18:32
  this movie probably would have done it, but the second time it
• 1:18:35
  was used as the end that's were, didn't really work so much for
• 1:18:41
  me? Yeah.
• 1:18:42
  Because it's supposed to be a hopeful moment.
• 1:18:45
  But what it's just didn't really Jive well with me at the end.
• 1:18:51
  Why I'm glad they use something in the, in the way as opposed to
• 1:18:55
  something like, you know, Smells Like Teen Spirit or, you know,
• 1:19:00
  something that's like, I mean, something in the way is a pot is
• 1:19:04
  like, you know, I guess a popular song.
• 1:19:06
  Well, I mean that whole nevermind album is but like I
• 1:19:09
  guess I'm glad they, they use that song off of it as most like
• 1:19:15
  Something else. You know what?
• 1:19:17
  I meet you. I think we're super well in the
• 1:19:19
  trailer. Like it's perfect in the
• 1:19:20
  trailer. I just think it's didn't It
• 1:19:27
  didn't fit the second. I do use it once or been fine
• 1:19:30
  with it. Fact, they use again.
• 1:19:32
  Maybe kind of like yeah. I got to see this movie again.
• 1:19:35
  To really have better opinions but I also think again going
• 1:19:40
  back to Bruce a bit, it makes it feel a little bit to email a
• 1:19:43
  little bit too. Like I said, Bruce beings.
• 1:19:46
  I joked about with you. I'm like, you seems like an
• 1:19:48
  email with the hair like, I called it and other people said
• 1:19:53
  that after, I think they did a little too much it It was just a
• 1:19:57
  and I get these. Yeah, it's just a little too
• 1:20:01
  much. There was, I think he displayed
• 1:20:03
  the depression extremely well with the sort of quiet, you
• 1:20:08
  know, those spoken voice. Sort of way.
• 1:20:12
  Like I said, his acting wasn't the problem, I just think it was
• 1:20:16
  you didn't see enough of his pain in a more colorful way that
• 1:20:21
  would have shown more sides to. It felt very sore one, Channel.
• 1:20:28
  And that's that that is one thing.
• 1:20:31
  Like I kind of hope we get in future films to like like the
• 1:20:39
  like like the white one thing I hate that they do with Robert
• 1:20:43
  with like Robert Pattinson is. They always do this thing where
• 1:20:47
  like in all of his movies they give him like this messy hair
• 1:20:51
  lock and it bothers me. Because like, in real life, you
• 1:20:57
  know, when he's just Robert Pattinson.
• 1:20:59
  He actually you know like he he act like is his hairstyle I
• 1:21:05
  guess is like Not like super quaffed, but it's like it's
• 1:21:10
  normal. Right?
• 1:21:11
  Like, yeah, he's very presentable like, and he's, you
• 1:21:15
  know, rare like, you know, very straight, very you know, waft.
• 1:21:21
  Like, I mean, obviously he's British.
• 1:21:23
  So it kind of goes along with that but like, I'm hung, like,
• 1:21:27
  why, why did they feel the need to, like, you know, emo, you
• 1:21:32
  know, do like the whole like, You know, grunge look like yeah,
• 1:21:36
  well, because the Ruiz really felt that he was writing
• 1:21:40
  Batman's Kurt Cobain which is fine but like I said, it's over
• 1:21:45
  done. Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  I mean like emotionally emotionally yes, I get that
• 1:21:50
  little bit like but likewise like, you know, have Batman.
• 1:21:54
  Won't go have Bruce look a little bit, like a billionaire a
• 1:21:58
  little bit. Well that was the thing.
• 1:22:00
  He felt like just a kid. He yeah I get he's younger but
• 1:22:03
  he I feel like a rich kid. He felt like a grungy,
• 1:22:08
  middle-class kid, you know, or even a in really feel rich.
• 1:22:13
  Until he shows up to a funeral, you know, that soup.
• 1:22:15
  But yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, it's just and that's,
• 1:22:21
  that's literally my whole feelings of this is it just
• 1:22:23
  doesn't quite work as well as I wanted to, which I, which I am
• 1:22:27
  hoping that like. So, you know, the one thing that
• 1:22:30
  like I'm kind of hoping to is like, you know, I think that I
• 1:22:36
  think Bruce / Batman kind of realize that he needs to like
• 1:22:40
  you know do more to have like a positive influence like and I
• 1:22:44
  would love to see that too in like and that tend to like may
• 1:22:48
  see maybe see like that an orm know maybe so like, Bruce have
• 1:22:53
  like a few you know, board meetings at like Wayne
• 1:22:56
  Enterprises or something a lot like Like that, like You Did in
• 1:23:00
  the Dark Knight trilogy, you know, like have that side of
• 1:23:05
  like Bruce Wayne as like the shrewd businessman to so well
• 1:23:11
  that's what's kind of weird like I said, his Batman I think is
• 1:23:16
  perfect like it's great. The Bruce didn't feel like Bruce
• 1:23:22
  enough, like I get the difference of that I liked it,
• 1:23:25
  it was different but it didn't feel like a different Bruce it
• 1:23:28
  just Like somebody else if they had like because you like, you
• 1:23:33
  say he doesn't. He's Rich at all.
• 1:23:36
  I just don't, I feel like he was just worried like left with this
• 1:23:42
  money and that's it. And which I guess is the
• 1:23:47
  situation. He is in but it didn't feel like
• 1:23:51
  he had other responsibilities for.
• 1:23:52
  Like, I know that one girl makes that line, but you didn't get
• 1:23:55
  this sense of like dude. You got a company to run.
• 1:23:58
  You gotta do this. Gotta do that in feel like he
• 1:24:01
  had any Bruce responsibilities so he could be Batman all the
• 1:24:05
  time. You know?
• 1:24:07
  Yeah. Well he does say that he doesn't
• 1:24:10
  like hair like his fortune or something, right?
• 1:24:14
  Yeah. Alfred And like, I'm kind of
• 1:24:17
  hoping that that changes because, like, I don't mind, I
• 1:24:21
  don't mind like grungy email Bruce, like, you know, here,
• 1:24:25
  like, you know, it's Batman your one Batman here to, you know,
• 1:24:29
  find like he's kind of young. I'm hoping though that like
• 1:24:33
  along with Batman's, you know, character kind of involvement,
• 1:24:36
  like, you got, like, a more mature, Bruce Wayne and Future
• 1:24:40
  films. Because, although, because like,
• 1:24:43
  otherwise, it's not gonna, You know, like it's just not going
• 1:24:48
  to be Batman. So right now I think building to
• 1:24:52
  that's interesting, which is again, why?
• 1:24:54
  I like how they started this way, but it would if they add
• 1:24:58
  some scenes like let's say, business Executives calling him
• 1:25:04
  or him having to show up to Wayne Enterprise one day, you
• 1:25:08
  would have gotten that sense that he didn't want to do this
• 1:25:12
  or he's at a board meeting board leaves.
• 1:25:16
  No, something because it feels like Very sort of mid Arc with
• 1:25:21
  him, like, you don't really feel like you're starting out
• 1:25:24
  somewhere. You can't figure.
• 1:25:25
  I inserted a little too much, you know, if they'd thrown you
• 1:25:30
  in where he's, you know, he's trying to do that stuff but then
• 1:25:35
  doesn't want to realize it's like, yeah, this really isn't
• 1:25:37
  what I want to do. What am a lot more sense.
• 1:25:43
  Yeah, that's all my thoughts. I encourage people to see throw
• 1:25:48
  in theaters. It's awesome, theater
• 1:25:49
  experience. I saw in the sadly app move
• 1:25:52
  steered is really awesome and so you can really feel the
• 1:25:55
  atmosphere. I says, lots of like, but
• 1:25:59
  there's enough things to dislike the, the don't that make this
• 1:26:04
  one kind of good, but not great or amazing film.
• 1:26:08
  For me. One thing that I love in this
• 1:26:11
  movie too. Aside from.
• 1:26:16
  Aside from the music, is the use of sound effects.
• 1:26:20
  So it's great and it's like, well, stuff is just amazing.
• 1:26:23
  It specifically like that the use of like Batman's, you know,
• 1:26:29
  footsteps to I like how they were like dark and brooding and
• 1:26:32
  like, you know, you can before even see before you even see
• 1:26:37
  him. Like you can hear him, you know,
• 1:26:40
  like enter room and like, you know, Kronos just start, you
• 1:26:43
  know, panicking. You know, I like he's not like,
• 1:26:47
  he's not like doing any of the weird stuff like, you know,
• 1:26:50
  jumping in through the ceiling or anything like that.
• 1:26:53
  Royal in the film he's just like, walking into a room and
• 1:26:57
  already people are like, you know, nervous that that's great
• 1:27:02
  too. But yeah, I mean, again go and
• 1:27:04
  see this movie, you know, in theaters.
• 1:27:08
  If you can it is it is worth money.
• 1:27:13
  I'm hoping that they do like the when they do release I'm hoping
• 1:27:18
  that they do. Good transfer of this film.
• 1:27:22
  Mmm. Yeah and I agree with the more
• 1:27:26
  he, the way he'd walk is fantastic.
• 1:27:29
  And his I acting because it's hard to act in the batsuit
• 1:27:34
  because you can't really see most of his face, but the acting
• 1:27:38
  he does through his eyes and his glares, looks is fantastic.
• 1:27:42
  And the way the codes, It's super close up.
• 1:27:44
  Like it. Really do feel like you're in
• 1:27:46
  the room with him. It really does a lot of that
• 1:27:50
  stuff. So, well, I do like, I will say,
• 1:27:53
  I do like the suit to, I know. I know that some people don't
• 1:27:58
  like it but I actually really like this one.
• 1:28:01
  Oh, I love the suit. Yeah, I really did.
• 1:28:04
  I don't want it may be the one thing that I think is better
• 1:28:08
  than the, no one's was a suit. I don't want to actually say
• 1:28:11
  that fish we applied safe. There's one thing if I had to
• 1:28:14
  pick one thing. That's like the one thing I'd
• 1:28:15
  Peg, I did love how his batarang or bat-knife wherever you want
• 1:28:20
  to call. It is a functional part on the
• 1:28:24
  sea. Like the bat.
• 1:28:25
  Emblem is a functional part. It's not just there for show
• 1:28:28
  like, that's where he puts his power ring.
• 1:28:29
  That was really cool. And someone seen Troy quick, but
• 1:28:32
  I know son. I loved it.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah, I know. I like, I like that too.
• 1:28:42
  I like that too. That like that like the back
• 1:28:44
  crust is actually a, you know, is actually like a functional
• 1:28:49
  thing and that's actually depending on which conch version
• 1:28:52
  you read bad sex for like another.
• 1:28:54
  Another thing to in the ideas the Colonel's see that symbol
• 1:28:58
  one. They shoot that symbol but it
• 1:29:02
  you know it's like heavily enforced so does nothing right.
• 1:29:08
  And I really I actually and I know that, like, I know that I'm
• 1:29:16
  going to probably get some hate but like I actually like this
• 1:29:19
  suit better than the more than like the known suit because like
• 1:29:24
  early on in the Nolan Trilogy like I thought Batman's first it
• 1:29:29
  was fine, then once they ended up into the Dark Knight and the
• 1:29:33
  Dark Knight Rises, I feel like they tried to make him more like
• 1:29:37
  a military-type. You know.
• 1:29:40
  Batman. As was like a detective lurking
• 1:29:43
  in the shadows. You Now, into the back of it.
• 1:29:47
  Well, I like that. Both those takes on saying that.
• 1:29:50
  That's why I still like this Moon.
• 1:29:53
  I wish it was improved is because I love how these were
• 1:29:57
  told to to similar yet. Very different takes on him.
• 1:30:01
  Yeah. And they both work well in their
• 1:30:03
  own ways, it's just to me, the overall story acting music in
• 1:30:11
  the darkness Superior even though except the music.
• 1:30:13
  This is really good. The acting is really good, it's
• 1:30:17
  just not at that level, especially the story and the
• 1:30:20
  plot. If the plan, the story had a wow
• 1:30:24
  factor at the end of it, I would have read the so much higher
• 1:30:28
  cut. The woke shit have some sort of
• 1:30:30
  wow factor ending that simple but blows you away like the
• 1:30:33
  ending of 7 would have sold me. Yeah, and that's how this could
• 1:30:37
  have been powerful but it lacks that powerful punch at the end
• 1:30:41
  which makes it a little Hollow for me a little just But one
• 1:30:47
  thing I did get from this I thought and this is the last
• 1:30:50
  thing I finally say, they make back man feel so much more like
• 1:30:54
  a freaking this, you know, I don't know if you got that Vibe
• 1:30:57
  but I was conscious like it's motherfuckers walking on the bat
• 1:31:00
  Sig. This guy's this is like you kind
• 1:31:02
  of step back and think how crazy this actually is, and how?
• 1:31:06
  Yeah, I'll say, so, in negative way, but yours like, this is
• 1:31:09
  like and this guy's got issues and I thought that was really
• 1:31:12
  good. Well, yeah.
• 1:31:15
  I thought that was really good. And this side characters the way
• 1:31:18
  they act like this freaking to the crime scene.
• 1:31:22
  You know, like that source of help build it really well, it
• 1:31:24
  means that was the one thing that was really good.
• 1:31:27
  Well and and that's one thing I that that is one thing that I
• 1:31:31
  Supply on that I liked about this one is like yeah, clearly
• 1:31:36
  Bruce Wayne like you know, eating it even like the comic
• 1:31:39
  books. Like the only Bruce Wayne has
• 1:31:42
  issues, you know? He he Is up in a giant bat suit,
• 1:31:47
  you know, and fight. Which again, is one reason why I
• 1:31:51
  think that the whole Which again is one reason why I think the
• 1:31:56
  whole you know walking just like I would love to see that Ensign
• 1:32:03
  face off against walking's Joker because I kind of feel like in a
• 1:32:08
  weird way they're opposite but they are kind of similar.
• 1:32:13
  You know what I mean? We're like they're both kind of
• 1:32:15
  slightly unhinged mentally and so I think that would just be
• 1:32:20
  really fun to watch but I do. Yeah, I agree.
• 1:32:28
  Then kind of the other thing I like in this film is that we
• 1:32:35
  don't, we don't actually see the murder, the murder of Thomas and
• 1:32:40
  Martha Wayne in this film. Yeah.
• 1:32:43
  And I like the Batman is also kind of established.
• 1:32:46
  We don't need we don't need yet. Another origin story of Batman.
• 1:32:52
  Yeah, nah. I like that too.
• 1:32:55
  I like that. It it knows what it is and again
• 1:32:57
  that's part of what it does differently.
• 1:32:59
  Is that it's almost like an episode of Batman.
• 1:33:02
  It's a comic number 76, a Batman.
• 1:33:06
  It's not his origin story. Yeah.
• 1:33:11
  I guess what? There's a lot of things to this
• 1:33:12
  music is different. I really like I genuinely do.
• 1:33:16
  Yeah. So but I'm I well I guess we'll
• 1:33:21
  have to, you know, see what happens in the future.
• 1:33:29
  I was there will be a Trilogy. Apparently, that's what I've
• 1:33:31
  heard. Oh yeah, there's going to be a
• 1:33:34
  Trilogy. The other thing too, I know it's
• 1:33:38
  a bit light, you know, kind of Not right, not like right now
• 1:33:43
  but one thing I am going to do is I'm going to do a review of
• 1:33:48
  Dune at some point and I would love to remind you, you know, I
• 1:33:55
  will be all giddy to do that. I would, I would love to have
• 1:34:00
  you on for that particularly because like, I never took you
• 1:34:04
  as like, a dune guy but I never read the book.
• 1:34:08
  I knew nothing about it. Well not Not not.
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  Well, neither did I, yeah, I mean, I literally came in that
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  movie cold, I wanted to, that's the thing, like, I was thinking
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  reading the book before, but I decided not to because I want to
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  experience the film as much as like to its fullest potential.
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  I'm such a big Denis fan. I he's my favorite director to
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  nobody except Christopher Nolan, comes close.
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  And I say favorite and favorite working living director.
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  He is by far my favorite and after sicario arrival and Blade
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  Runner, I'm just like this guy doesn't miss and he gets better
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  and better. So I came into this with high
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  expectations but I was like, I know this is going to be good.
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  I'm just wanting how good it was and when I saw them like that
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  was pretty good II. Thought it was little.
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  I didn't think of this Sorry I had first thought wasn't as good
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  as I thought I was going to be but then the more I thought
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  about it, I loved it. It grew on me pretty quickly.
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  Yeah. Same here.
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  And I did do an initial review, I like way back when, but I
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  never uploaded it and and it actually I cleaned up my
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  computer and actually got like deleted by accident.
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  So So, I mean, now now that the digital now like the digital
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  copy is out in like I've had, you know I'm on spring break
• 1:35:46
  this week so I'm probably going to re-watch it again and so and
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  so yeah I think actually doing a review like a few months later
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  and like, you know, how good is it?
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  Really? You know, is it has improved has
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  not improved. So I'm going to be doing that
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  and I would love to have you on. Oh absolutely.
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  I'd love to. And then now that everyone's
• 1:36:10
  seen well, now that almost everyone has seen Yellowstone.
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  I'm probably going to do a Yellow Stone review at one at
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  some point to have to get fell for that once I've not seen.
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  Oh yeah. Oh do you want to talk?
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  I show that is like totally based no political correctness
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  whatsoever Yellowstone. My nigga Yeah.
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  Off the hopefully I can find some time in a month or so to
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  check it out because I feel like I would like I like having a
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  house and yeah. So but am I well you know, I
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  know, I know it's light and you know we've been going for about
• 1:36:59
  an hour and a half so I don't want I don't want to do like a
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  three-hour show like we did for for our bond, you know?
• 1:37:06
  From On show although that was fun.
• 1:37:10
  But anyway well where can people find you now?
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  Sean, you're gone from Twitter. That's a good question.
• 1:37:21
  Yeah, I think the only places you can find me is.
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  Yeah and all the uncensored. America's should you go to
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  uncensor america.you? S.
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  That is the website for my organization.
• 1:37:36
  My Free Speech organization. That's kind of what I just the
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  only thing I can tweet out of now and operate from the
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  accounts for that. But my personal stuff, it's only
• 1:37:46
  on Gavin. I don't worry use it much
• 1:37:48
  because Gap is pretty boring, frankly.
• 1:37:51
  As much as I love the product, it's just the people on it are
• 1:37:57
  boring and it's an echo chamber, but yeah, I'm on Facebook,
• 1:38:02
  that's that's it really big bolts.
• 1:38:05
  Mites were taken away really. Just I miss it but hope
• 1:38:10
  hopefully it'll be on true social.
• 1:38:13
  I actually think well I'm in the wingless for that.
• 1:38:17
  Yeah. So am I and after the podcast so
• 1:38:22
  I'll talk to you because I actually have an idea for sure
• 1:38:26
  were you maybe? But will what get what the good
• 1:38:30
  people go. So thanks, everyone who tuned in
• 1:38:34
  for this review. I'll probably have A second
• 1:38:39
  review part of this, getting some opinions from some other
• 1:38:43
  people. But in the meantime, God was
• 1:38:48
  God's of this great nation Godfrey democracy in that order
• 1:38:52
  and I will see you on the next episode of the world's poor.
• 1:39:00
  Sounds good. Thanks for listening to the
• 1:39:04
  Whitfield report on. The NGC Network.
• 1:39:07
  Please visit Sam's website at www.ge.com, Whitfield.com and
• 1:39:14
  supports am on patreon and patreon.com Whitfield report.
• 1:39:20
  Until next time, God bless God. Save this great nation and God
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  Freedom Legacy in that order.