Latest / Silver FM 100.6 / Tired of eating leftovers? Turn your odds and ends into creative meals
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- 0:00Speaker 1: You're listening to Life Kid from NPR. Hey, it's Maryelle.
- 0:06Speaker 1: When Margaret Lee was a kid, she watched her mom
- 0:09Speaker 1: doing something that was a little unusual.
- 0:11Speaker 2: She used to like to save takeout sauces from every restaurant,
- 0:19Speaker 2: so she would have ketchup from one restaurant, barbecue sauce
- 0:22Speaker 2: from another restaurant, maybe some kind of soy sauce, or
- 0:25Speaker 2: duck sauce from a Chinese restaurant.
- 0:27Speaker 1: After she collected a bunch of them, she would mix
- 0:29Speaker 1: them all together and then she would use.
- 0:31Speaker 2: It to make a sauce for barbecued chicken. Almost always
- 0:35Speaker 2: barbecued chicken, and honestly, it was usually really good.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Years later, when Margaret and her sister wrote a cookbook
- 0:46Speaker 1: called Perfectly Good Food, they dedicated it to their mom
- 0:49Speaker 1: and the way she would rescue takeout sauces because this
- 0:52Speaker 1: was a formative lesson for Margaret. It showed her that
- 0:54Speaker 1: you don't always need a recipe to make something delicious,
- 0:57Speaker 1: and you could find creative ways to use up just
- 0:59Speaker 1: about any ingredient in your kitchen.
- 1:01Speaker 2: You have these great intentions to cook and eat the
- 1:04Speaker 2: things that you're spending your money on, and especially as
- 1:06Speaker 2: food costs go up. That's so frustrating, and to use
- 1:10Speaker 2: it and make sure that you eat it feels very satisfying.
- 1:13Speaker 1: The latest estimate from a nonprofit called Refed is that
- 1:16Speaker 1: a quarter of all food products in the US get dumped,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and the residential food sector accounts for a big part
- 1:23Speaker 1: of that, which means if you spend two hundred dollars
- 1:25Speaker 1: a week on groceries and takeout, you might be throwing
- 1:28Speaker 1: away the equivalent of fifty dollars of food. But also,
- 1:31Speaker 1: once you get the hang of how to use more
- 1:33Speaker 1: of your food, it makes the daily chore of feeding
- 1:36Speaker 1: yourself easier.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Food waste, in some ways is like this trendy new idea,
- 1:41Speaker 2: but for many thousands of years that was just cooking.
- 1:44Speaker 2: You just used up what you had.
- 1:46Speaker 1: On this episode of Lifekit, reporter Emily Seiner is going
- 1:48Speaker 1: to talk about how to make creative meals out of leftovers,
- 1:52Speaker 1: out of odds and ends and anything else you usually
- 1:54Speaker 1: end up throwing away. It might shift your perspective. A
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- 2:47Speaker 3: It's a typical Tuesday night in my kitchen. I opened
- 2:50Speaker 3: the fridge before dinner and the remains of yesterday's take out,
- 2:55Speaker 3: a half eaten rotisserie chicken still on the bone, a
- 2:58Speaker 3: couple of raw vegetables, and I usually end up saying
- 3:01Speaker 3: something like this.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Oh, there's nothing in the fridge. I don't know what
- 3:04Speaker 2: to make.
- 3:04Speaker 3: But cookbook author and chef Margaret Lee has a different
- 3:08Speaker 3: outlook on my sad Tuesday night fridge. To her, these
- 3:11Speaker 3: odds and ends from previous meals aren't the roadblock to dinner.
- 3:15Speaker 3: They are dinner.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Okay. Well, the bone will add flavor to a broth
- 3:19Speaker 2: or a stew, and all these vegetables will work, so
- 3:23Speaker 2: you know, maybe the potatoes going first, and then the
- 3:26Speaker 2: fresh leafy green's going last, and then these vegetables are
- 3:30Speaker 2: left over from another meal, so they're already cooked. So
- 3:32Speaker 2: I'll pop them in sometime in the middle.
- 3:36Speaker 3: In other words, think of the end of one meal
- 3:38Speaker 3: as the beginning of the next. That's takeaway one.
- 3:45Speaker 4: I don't think there's almost anything in my kitchen that
- 3:48Speaker 4: isn't made out of something else.
- 3:50Speaker 3: Food writer and chef Tamar Adler is the author of
- 3:53Speaker 3: The Everlasting Meal, which is basically a love letter to
- 3:56Speaker 3: the style of cooking. The day I talked to her,
- 3:59Speaker 3: she was putting together salad for her lunch. She looked
- 4:01Speaker 3: at her fridge.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Found like a half eaten barrata arugula salad.
- 4:07Speaker 3: Barrata is a soft cheese and it kind of melded
- 4:09Speaker 3: into the arugula and tomatoes. I might have tossed it
- 4:12Speaker 3: right then and there, but Tamar saw potential.
- 4:15Speaker 4: I kind of picked the arugula off of the barrada
- 4:18Speaker 4: and then added lemon juice and olive oil to it
- 4:20Speaker 4: and mixed it really hard, so it became like a
- 4:22Speaker 4: creamy dressing, and it was so good. I might I
- 4:25Speaker 4: might remake a barada dressing, and it won't be as
- 4:27Speaker 4: good because something that it's sitting all night with the
- 4:30Speaker 4: little bits and pieces made it better.
- 4:32Speaker 3: These byproducts of yesterday's meal are the foundation for today's
- 4:37Speaker 3: Maybe you have some leftover rice lying around, Tamar says,
- 4:40Speaker 3: that is the perfect start for tonight's dinner.
- 4:42Speaker 4: I will try anything with rice into fried rice. I
- 4:47Speaker 4: will you know, sautet, some aromatics, so maybe some ginger, garlic, onion,
- 4:53Speaker 4: and then whatever other leftover bit there is. So maybe
- 4:57Speaker 4: there's like a little bit of beans left.
- 4:59Speaker 3: And just because the meal is built from leftovers doesn't
- 5:01Speaker 3: mean she treats it like a second class dish. No,
- 5:04Speaker 3: She's trying to give these ingredients new life in their
- 5:06Speaker 3: new form and.
- 5:07Speaker 4: Sort of just take the approach of making it more
- 5:10Speaker 4: flavorful and crispy and then spicy, and then usually adding
- 5:16Speaker 4: like a squeeze of lemon.
- 5:17Speaker 3: It's all about building up your Arsenal of go to
- 5:20Speaker 3: recipes that are flexible enough to use up just about anything.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Margaret calls them hero recipes.
- 5:26Speaker 2: For example, my house eats a lot of bread. My
- 5:29Speaker 2: children love bread. I bake bread. We always have bread
- 5:33Speaker 2: ends around.
- 5:34Speaker 3: So one of Margaret's hero recipes is in anything Goes
- 5:37Speaker 3: Savory bread pudding. You throw all that leftover bread into
- 5:40Speaker 3: a freezer bag and when it's full.
- 5:42Speaker 2: You soak your bread in milk or cream, and you
- 5:46Speaker 2: add in eggs, and I like to add in all
- 5:49Speaker 2: the different cheese bits that I can find from foraging
- 5:52Speaker 2: my fridge, and then it can take just about any
- 5:55Speaker 2: other meat or vegetable that you can think of. Generally,
- 5:58Speaker 2: I just sawtit them with maybe onions and olive oil
- 6:01Speaker 2: and make sure everything's well seasoned, and then you pile
- 6:04Speaker 2: it all into a casserole dish and you bake it
- 6:05Speaker 2: for about an hour, and it is so delicious.
- 6:09Speaker 3: These hero recipes do rely on some advanced planning. You
- 6:13Speaker 3: need to make sure you're stocked up on staples. Aromatics
- 6:16Speaker 3: like onion and garlic are essential to building flavor. Margaret
- 6:19Speaker 3: always has puff pastry in her freezer, which she uses
- 6:22Speaker 3: to repurpose leftovers into a savory gallet, and she always
- 6:26Speaker 3: has shelf stable essentials like rice and pasta in her cupboard.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Well, I've got chicken thighs, and I've got canned tomatoes,
- 6:32Speaker 2: and I've got pasta. So all of a sudden, you
- 6:35Speaker 2: have this, you know, roast chicken and tomato pasta, and
- 6:40Speaker 2: then you've tossed in some fresh greens and some aliums
- 6:43Speaker 2: and aromatics and then you have this relief flavorful meal
- 6:46Speaker 2: that you can just kind of forge from what you have.
- 6:48Speaker 3: Another essential ingredient to have in a hand is eggs.
- 6:51Speaker 4: Like you could put anything in a fritata and it'll
- 6:53Speaker 4: be great. So just like thinking of it as like, okay, well,
- 6:57Speaker 4: if I don't know what to do, I will frittatize.
- 6:59Speaker 3: Or to the even easier version of this is just
- 7:02Speaker 3: to cook an egg and put it on top. It
- 7:04Speaker 3: has the effect of making almost everything feel hardier and fancier.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Whatever you make with the staples. You can set yourself
- 7:11Speaker 3: up for success by making sure you cook enough to
- 7:14Speaker 3: produce leftovers.
- 7:15Speaker 4: I probably cook for like six to eight people every
- 7:17Speaker 4: single time I go in the kitchen because I can't
- 7:20Speaker 4: fry rice anything if there's nothing to fry rice.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Tamar also recommends thinking about what you're going to do
- 7:29Speaker 3: with all the leftovers before you put them away in
- 7:32Speaker 3: your fridge. For example, she might chop up the ends
- 7:34Speaker 3: of the parsley she used for dinner and put them
- 7:36Speaker 3: on some leftover pasta and then put it in the
- 7:39Speaker 3: fridge already combined. Now the next meal is halfway started,
- 7:43Speaker 3: or at the very least, she labels the leftovers with
- 7:46Speaker 3: their intended use.
- 7:47Speaker 4: If I had a little bit of leftover blueberries, I
- 7:49Speaker 4: wouldn't say leftover blueberries. I would say like muffins to
- 7:52Speaker 4: be on Tuesday. With grated cheese, I would say, like
- 7:57Speaker 4: for pasta this week, or like cheese Ryan's to turn
- 8:01Speaker 4: into broth. I really liked doing that, assigning the destiny
- 8:06Speaker 4: of the food and labeling it.
- 8:09Speaker 3: This brings us to take away too, which is a
- 8:11Speaker 3: very practical one. Labeling is your friend.
- 8:14Speaker 2: I always have some painter's tape and a good charpie
- 8:18Speaker 2: in my kitchen so you can label and date things.
- 8:21Speaker 3: It's a method that chef's use in restaurants, Market says,
- 8:23Speaker 3: but it's equally applicable in your home. And this becomes
- 8:26Speaker 3: even more important when you store food in your freezer.
- 8:29Speaker 2: What is this brown container that I shoved to the
- 8:33Speaker 2: back of the freezer six months ago? Is it soup?
- 8:38Speaker 2: Is it cider?
- 8:39Speaker 3: I have no idea.
- 8:41Speaker 2: You always think you'll remember, but often you don't.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Using the freezer is a whole art in itself. Margaret
- 8:48Speaker 3: has her freezer bag for the ends of bread, as
- 8:50Speaker 3: we talked about. She also has one for making chicken
- 8:53Speaker 3: or vegetable stock that houses the carrot peels and the
- 8:56Speaker 3: ends of onions, and extra garlet clothes and chicken bones.
- 8:59Speaker 3: And there's the freezer bag for smoothies.
- 9:02Speaker 2: You know, this blueberry is too squishy, mom, I can't
- 9:04Speaker 2: eat this. I just stick into the freezer. This banana
- 9:07Speaker 2: is too brown, I can't eat this. I stick into
- 9:09Speaker 2: the freezer. And then eventually I just put it on
- 9:12Speaker 2: a blender with some yogurt and some juice, and I
- 9:16Speaker 2: make a smoothie. And then the smoothie is delicious for
- 9:19Speaker 2: all ages, even if it's made up of all the
- 9:21Speaker 2: things that have been rejected in the past.
- 9:23Speaker 3: Margaret also labels an entire section of her fridge for
- 9:27Speaker 3: the odds and ends of ingredients. She calls it the
- 9:30Speaker 3: eat me first box.
- 9:32Speaker 2: For example, you want a lemon for your cocktail, and
- 9:36Speaker 2: you cut open a lemon, and then you open your
- 9:38Speaker 2: fridge and you realize you already had a lemon open.
- 9:41Speaker 2: And I will often find like three more lemons in
- 9:44Speaker 2: the back of my fridge.
- 9:45Speaker 3: And the idea, I feel like you're looking in my
- 9:47Speaker 3: fridge out.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I'm staring at your fridge finding all your secrets.
- 9:52Speaker 3: She assures me, this is nothing to be ashamed of,
- 9:55Speaker 3: but having an eat me first box, or even an
- 9:57Speaker 3: eat me first zone of your fridge can help. It
- 10:00Speaker 3: makes it easy to see the half cut lemons and
- 10:02Speaker 3: the open container of coconut milk, and the apple that's
- 10:05Speaker 3: getting a little wrinkly but still isn't quite ready to
- 10:07Speaker 3: retire to the smoothie bag.
- 10:09Speaker 2: That's an organizational tool that I feel helps for everybody.
- 10:12Speaker 3: In Tamar's fridge. Her organizational tool is making sure everything
- 10:16Speaker 3: is stored in her own containers. It becomes kind of
- 10:18Speaker 3: a psychological trick.
- 10:20Speaker 4: Last night, I served olives at this party, and I'd
- 10:23Speaker 4: gotten them in like a plastic kind of clamshell thing
- 10:27Speaker 4: from the olive lady. But I put them in a
- 10:29Speaker 4: nation jar before I put them away.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Tonight, she says, she'll be more likely to reach for
- 10:34Speaker 3: her own jar than a plastic container that screams leftovers
- 10:40Speaker 3: coming up. I put our chefs to the test with
- 10:42Speaker 3: the ingredients that have stumped me in the past. I
- 10:55Speaker 3: decide to put Tamar Adler and Margaret Lee to the test.
- 10:59Speaker 3: I mean, it's not often I get to ask professional
- 11:02Speaker 3: chefs for personalized food advice. So I bring a list
- 11:05Speaker 3: of ingredients that I have personally thrown out many times
- 11:07Speaker 3: because they've stumped me. One thing is tomato paste. So
- 11:11Speaker 3: if I have a recipe with tomato paste, I buy it,
- 11:14Speaker 3: I use like the one tablespoon, and then the rest
- 11:16Speaker 3: of it just sits there until it goes Yeah, what's
- 11:19Speaker 3: like an easy thing to do with tomato paste? There
- 11:22Speaker 3: are a lot And then to know when's surprised, tomor
- 11:25Speaker 3: starts rattling off a list of options.
- 11:28Speaker 4: Every time you make a tomato saush use any kind
- 11:31Speaker 4: of a marinade, like a rub on chicken or whatever,
- 11:33Speaker 4: all of you dressing, or an olive top, a nod
- 11:35Speaker 4: putting a little bit in there, any MINESTRONI would be
- 11:38Speaker 4: very very happy. A fresh pot of rice would be great,
- 11:41Speaker 4: and I would all just end up like pinky and delicious.
- 11:46Speaker 4: I mean we've probably used it up, yeah right, I
- 11:50Speaker 4: think we used it up. Alternately, this is what I
- 11:53Speaker 4: do more often.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I just ignore it.
- 11:55Speaker 4: When it says use tomato paste, I'm like, no, I'm
- 11:57Speaker 4: just going to use a tomato because I can buy
- 11:59Speaker 4: one tomato.
- 12:00Speaker 3: In other words, you can use tomatoes in just about
- 12:03Speaker 3: anything that calls for tomato paste, and vice versa. And
- 12:06Speaker 3: this is such an important cooking technique that it's takeaway three.
- 12:10Speaker 3: You can substitute similar ingredients for each.
- 12:12Speaker 4: Other even without knowing a technique, going Okay, what is
- 12:17Speaker 4: this like that I would know what to do with?
- 12:20Speaker 3: For example, in the case of tomorrow's leftover brata salad,
- 12:24Speaker 3: she looked at the cheese and thought, this is a
- 12:26Speaker 3: creamy dairy product. It's a similar consistency to a thick
- 12:30Speaker 3: yogurt or sour cream. I can make a dressing with
- 12:33Speaker 3: sour cream, so why don't I make it with the brada.
- 12:36Speaker 3: Another example courtesy of Margaret is coleslaw. It's usually made
- 12:40Speaker 3: with carrots and cabbage. Carrots are root vegetable, cabbage is
- 12:44Speaker 3: a hearty, leafy green.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Maybe instead you could swap it for collars and dikon
- 12:51Speaker 2: radish or something, and that allows you to try something new.
- 12:55Speaker 2: If you got something from a CSA box that you
- 12:56Speaker 2: haven't used before, or something that's kind of in the
- 13:00Speaker 2: back of your crisper drawer and you didn't know what
- 13:02Speaker 2: to do with it, then all of a sudden you
- 13:03Speaker 2: have these opportunities to swap one thing out for another.
- 13:07Speaker 3: You might end up with a dish that is totally
- 13:08Speaker 3: different than what you expected, but equally delicious. One of
- 13:13Speaker 3: the many ingredients that tends to hide in the back
- 13:15Speaker 3: of my crisper drawer unneedn is lettuce, because as soon
- 13:19Speaker 3: as it wilts, I find it unappetizing, and then I'm
- 13:22Speaker 3: relieved when it turns brown enough to just throw away,
- 13:25Speaker 3: and then I wonder why I bought it in the
- 13:26Speaker 3: first place. So I bring this stumper to Margaret. Lettuces
- 13:30Speaker 3: that are getting a little suspect. How do I know
- 13:33Speaker 3: if it's good to eat? And what do I do
- 13:36Speaker 3: with it if it's wilty.
- 13:38Speaker 2: We've evolved with the senses to help us make this decision,
- 13:43Speaker 2: So like smelling things, the smell test is actually really
- 13:46Speaker 2: pretty solid.
- 13:47Speaker 3: This applies to lots of food. If it smells bad,
- 13:50Speaker 3: don't eat it. But otherwise, she says, I could pop
- 13:52Speaker 3: the lettuce into a bowl of ice water, which plumps
- 13:55Speaker 3: it back up. Alternatively, instead of trying to make it
- 13:58Speaker 3: as crisp as possible for a fresh salad, I could
- 14:01Speaker 3: just expand my idea of how it can be prepared.
- 14:03Speaker 2: You can sort of change the texture totally, so you
- 14:06Speaker 2: could make a lettuce soup. You could make stir fried lettuce.
- 14:09Speaker 3: This is takeaway four when in doubt, change the texture.
- 14:15Speaker 3: This could look like cooking things that you might normally
- 14:18Speaker 3: eat raw, like lettuce or cucumbers. It could look like
- 14:21Speaker 3: pureing wrinkly veggies into a soup. Or it could look
- 14:24Speaker 3: like grinding down the stems of parsley or basil. They
- 14:27Speaker 3: still have that same herby taste, but the texture might
- 14:30Speaker 3: be off putting. So tomorrow turns them into an herb oil.
- 14:34Speaker 4: I'm gonna chop these herbs up, or just stick them
- 14:36Speaker 4: in the glender with a clove of garlic and lend
- 14:40Speaker 4: them up and add olive oil, and then it's just
- 14:42Speaker 4: gonna be my like base sauce for everything.
- 14:45Speaker 3: I tried this at home, and I can attest a
- 14:47Speaker 3: pesto made with the stems tastes exactly the same as
- 14:50Speaker 3: a pesto made with the leaves. And it saved me
- 14:52Speaker 3: from having to buy twice as many herbs as I need.
- 14:54Speaker 4: And so I would never throw those things out. They're
- 14:57Speaker 4: so good. You know.
- 14:59Speaker 3: One way to increase the lifespan of all the parts
- 15:01Speaker 3: of your veggies is to store them with the right
- 15:03Speaker 3: balance of moisture. Baby spinach that you buy in a
- 15:06Speaker 3: plastic bag tends to get gooey, Margaret says, because the
- 15:10Speaker 3: plastic just retains too much moisture.
- 15:12Speaker 2: So if you stick a paper towel or a kitchen
- 15:14Speaker 2: cloth in there with the greens, then they'll stay fresher
- 15:18Speaker 2: much longer. So things that you notice getting soggy you
- 15:20Speaker 2: could wrap in a dry cloth, or things that look
- 15:23Speaker 2: really dry you could wrap in a wet cloth, and
- 15:25Speaker 2: so kind of managing the right moisture and humidity for things.
- 15:32Speaker 3: Not every experiment with every ingredient is going to be successful.
- 15:36Speaker 3: In fact, this is takeaway five. Cooking with leftovers should
- 15:40Speaker 3: be an adventure, like Margaret's mom throwing all the sauces
- 15:44Speaker 3: together on a chicken, not trying to achieve the exact
- 15:46Speaker 3: same outcome each time, or Tamar frying rice with whatever
- 15:50Speaker 3: she has in her fridge. Going off script is essential
- 15:53Speaker 3: to using up leftovers, and that's a good thing.
- 15:56Speaker 2: It ends up being this fun game where you are
- 15:58Speaker 2: creating something from what seems like nothing and solving this
- 16:01Speaker 2: puzzle and then you get to eat it. And I
- 16:03Speaker 2: think the more that you're creative in the kitchen and
- 16:05Speaker 2: you take risks and you try new things, the better
- 16:08Speaker 2: of a cook you become and then the more likely
- 16:10Speaker 2: you are to get a delicious dish over and over again.
- 16:12Speaker 3: And if it doesn't work, well, that's an adventure in
- 16:14Speaker 3: its own right.
- 16:15Speaker 4: I over salted the pasta water like three nights ago,
- 16:19Speaker 4: and we just all had to suffer through really salty pasta.
- 16:22Speaker 4: I was like, it's so wonderful to know that we
- 16:25Speaker 4: can survive eating this too salty pasta.
- 16:28Speaker 3: Now, if it's really inedible, I give you permission to
- 16:31Speaker 3: toss it and order take out tonight. So to recap
- 16:37Speaker 3: take away one, think of the end of one meal
- 16:40Speaker 3: as the beginning of the next. Take Away two. Labeling
- 16:44Speaker 3: is your friend, take Away three, substitute similar ingredients for
- 16:48Speaker 3: each other. Take Away four, when in doubt, change the texture,
- 16:53Speaker 3: and take away five. Cooking with leftovers should be an adventure.
- 16:57Speaker 2: It's kind of a game. You know, it's like your
- 16:59Speaker 2: own version of child. But hopefully you're not having to
- 17:02Speaker 2: put gummy bears in your dinner or something.
- 17:04Speaker 3: But you know what, if you want to try it,
- 17:06Speaker 3: go for it.
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