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ITB NFL Free Agency Primer: Lack Of Quality QBs Compared Vs. Demand Gives Eagles Leverage With McKee · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on everybody? Jeff
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Speaker 1: Mosher and Adam Kaplan and I am gonna personally dedicate
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Speaker 1: this podcast, Adam for people in my neck of the
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Speaker 1: woods of Jersey who are maybe listening to this while
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Speaker 1: they're digging themselves out of their driveways this morning, because
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Speaker 1: even as of Saturday night in my area, the howling winds,
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Speaker 1: the snow, the snow was so thick it was like
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Speaker 1: it was like the sky dumping up.
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Speaker 2: In Sunday night.
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Speaker 1: Yea Sunday night. I was like the sky was like
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Speaker 1: a big slushie was falling through the sky all night.
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Speaker 1: That's how heavy and wet the snow was. So I'm
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Speaker 1: sure a lot of people will have to dig themselves
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Speaker 1: out this morning in our area, and hopefully they can
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Speaker 1: listen to the podcast at the same time.
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Speaker 2: It really gets good time to do it. Yeah, you're right.
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Speaker 2: The shame of it is for those of you who
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Speaker 2: are living in New Jersey, Delaware, Philly, that area. We
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Speaker 2: just got such a melting It was like, oh, you know,
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Speaker 2: spring's coming, but the only right light we've got coming
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Speaker 2: is we got it now again. That it's if it
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Speaker 2: doesn't change again, this coming weekend should be in the fifties. Yes,
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Speaker 2: and maybe we'll get some massive melting again. But it's
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Speaker 2: just a shame because man, it gets depressing. It. It's tough. Yes,
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Speaker 2: winner's been tough. What roughest we've had in years? The
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Speaker 2: wind too.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, you make a great point. It was so nice,
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Speaker 1: I mean relatively speaking. On Saturday when it got up
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Speaker 1: to about fifty degrees. I finally saw like my entire
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Speaker 1: street in lawn with no even though it was raining,
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Speaker 1: you just saw green, right, You saw what your street
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Speaker 1: looked like again. And then for that to all go
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Speaker 1: away twenty four hours later. But you're right. Hopefully this
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Speaker 1: won't last long. And the other thing that might be
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Speaker 1: uplifting for people is that if you really, if you're
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Speaker 1: a football junkie, the Combine starts this week, you'll be there.
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Speaker 1: Andrew de Cheko will be there. We're gonna preview right
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Speaker 1: now in this podcast. We're going to start a big
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Speaker 1: preview of free agency because that is the main discussion
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Speaker 1: the Combine participants are about the draft, but we always
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Speaker 1: say the discussions what goes on in Indianapolis is really
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Speaker 1: about free agency because that starts almost as soon as
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Speaker 1: things come back. You'll see guys get extensions even before
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Speaker 1: the start of the league year, which is March ninth,
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Speaker 1: I believe is the start of the legal tampa p No.
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Speaker 2: The eleventh would be the start of the league year.
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Speaker 1: I believe, Well, the eleventh is the official start, but
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Speaker 1: I think ninth is the start of the legal tampering periods.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the league year would start Wednesday, the eleventh,
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Speaker 2: I believe.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know, all the big news will be
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Speaker 1: done by then.
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Speaker 2: Right, Oh god, Monday is ridiculous, and we're talking about
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Speaker 2: the center Patreon chat. Some folks actually like that. They
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Speaker 2: it goes like this since they changed it. Yep. Well,
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Speaker 2: as we said before, thank god, we don't have to
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Speaker 2: do we don't have to start looking at things at midnight. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that was just the most ridiculous thing. Yeah, that will
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Speaker 2: not happen again. I can assure you GMS hated it.
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Speaker 1: So free agency is important because you and I did
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Speaker 1: a good roundtable discussion for our Patreon folks with Andrew
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Speaker 1: to check out was our monthly chalk talk, and it
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Speaker 1: was in the midst of really good conversations about where
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Speaker 1: the Eagles are and where they're going that we all
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Speaker 1: kind of realized for as much talent as they do
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Speaker 1: have because of some changing forces we'll see. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the AJ Brown thing is separate. This is a bigger
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Speaker 1: discussion is that they actually have more needs than you
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Speaker 1: might think. They're still a good team, but they've got
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Speaker 1: needs and depth especially and that as we always say,
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Speaker 1: you fill your immediate needs with free agency. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean you have to go sign everybody five year deals.
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Speaker 1: It can be one year deals for veterans who fill
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Speaker 1: a hole or help you become a bridge to your
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Speaker 1: next player. But the Eagles, the Eagles have needs and
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Speaker 1: maybe more than we think, and we went through them.
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Speaker 1: So everybody wants to really listen to that great chalk talk,
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Speaker 1: you got to go to Patreon, Patreon dot com, slash
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Speaker 1: inside the Birds. We also had a fantastic by the way,
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Speaker 1: fantastic chat are monthly Ask an Eagle with a guy
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Speaker 1: we had never had on our platform before. Bobby Taylor
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Speaker 1: cornerback Bobby Taylor Pro Bowl cornerback from the Andy Reid Days,
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Speaker 1: well actually technically the Ray Rhads days, right, and then
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Speaker 1: then it became the Andy Reid Days. But he was awesome.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't he just so full of great stories and
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Speaker 1: memories and honesty and it was really cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was incredible. Yeah he It was
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Speaker 2: one of those things where you would watch him play
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Speaker 2: and you go, that's what a cornerback should look like.
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Speaker 2: M H. I think he had some knee problems late
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Speaker 2: in his career that might have shortened a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he ended his career with the Seahawks, but
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Speaker 2: he was He's like what you want in a corner man. Long, talented, smart, tough,
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Speaker 2: good tackler, and he told some incredible stories. And what
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Speaker 2: blew us away is when he's like, yeah, you guys
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Speaker 2: asked me questions. I want to ask you questions. Like
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Speaker 2: he was like really fired up. A good job by
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Speaker 2: you to to contact him. Then we've got I can't
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Speaker 2: say yeah because I've in contact with the guy. We
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Speaker 2: got another one from his era who were on Facebook.
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Speaker 2: The other's a former player on offense. And this guy
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Speaker 2: surprised me just because I don't think he was you know,
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Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't know him to be talkative. And
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Speaker 2: this guy's like all sorts of conversations like, oh, this
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Speaker 2: could be interesting. We need to get this guy.
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Speaker 1: That's right, anyway, So yeah, great things coming up on
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Speaker 1: interference from ads or commercials, and that's one of the
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Speaker 1: great perks about being a Patreon member. So, like I said,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna start going into free agency. In this podcast,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk about quarterbacks and Adam. This is another thing
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Speaker 1: that came through the discussion that we had about the
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Speaker 1: Eagles and their needs. When when a team, and we've
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Speaker 1: seen this with the Eagles has a new either head
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Speaker 1: coach or a new coordinator and that person is bringing
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Speaker 1: in a new concept to scheme, whatever it is, you
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Speaker 1: often see some moves in free agency that are intended
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Speaker 1: to bring someone familiar with that scheme in so they
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Speaker 1: can help everybody out. I mean, the most recent example
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Speaker 1: would be when I guess Kellen Moore was offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: and they brought in Will Greer. Right, he wasn't gonna
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Speaker 1: win a job, he wasn't going to be the starter
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Speaker 1: of the backup but he was there to almost be
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Speaker 1: like another coach to help the quarterbacks learn what Kellen
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Speaker 1: Moore wanted because he had played for Kellen Moore. We
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Speaker 1: saw Gannon bringing guys from either the Indianapolis or Minnesota
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Speaker 1: Chane where he had come from. And then we even
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Speaker 1: saw Nick Sirianni bringing a guy like Zach paskeal right,
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Speaker 1: who had played for him in Indianapolis. So as we
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Speaker 1: look at quarterbacks and we don't know exactly what's gonna
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Speaker 1: happen with Tanner McKee and Sam Howell is going to
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Speaker 1: be a free agent, it'd be interesting to see if
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Speaker 1: the Eagles will try to find like a number three
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Speaker 1: veteran or if they do wind up trading McKee like
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Speaker 1: a number two who has played in this West Coast
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Speaker 1: system that Manion is familiar with and that this quarterback
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Speaker 1: would be familiar with.
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Speaker 2: Look, the bottom line is, when you look at free
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Speaker 2: and see it's so bad, what's out there? Eagles have
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Speaker 2: leverage here. We're gonna We're gonna do a lot of
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Speaker 2: general speaking about what the league looks like. But I
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Speaker 2: could tie from checking into it. There at least eight
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Speaker 2: teams right now cannot tell you who their starting quarterback
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Speaker 2: is going to be. They just can't they could, Like
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Speaker 2: the Vikings can't tell you that. First of all, they
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Speaker 2: don't have a general manager, Roberts getting us their contracts. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the guy drafted them with Duffel Mensa was fired, robertsinski
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Speaker 2: their contract and GOOTI here is the interim GM. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he's got guys under him who are gonna help him,
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Speaker 2: but so they don't know. So they're gonna have to
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Speaker 2: bring it someone to compete against McCarthy. You've got the
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Speaker 2: Kyler Merry thing, which is a total quagmar. His contract
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Speaker 2: is so player friendly it's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: I mean when you look at it, Dolphins don't know,
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Speaker 2: the Jets don't know, Pittsburgh doesn't know, Cleveland doesn't know. Yep.
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Speaker 2: The Raiders don't know. It's gonna be Mendos obviously, but
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Speaker 2: they we haven't gotten the draft yet.
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Speaker 1: Right, but they'll still need a competent backup just in case.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to have to eat unosbith a
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Speaker 2: bunch of guaranteed money, right. Yeah. Legitimately there are eight
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Speaker 2: teams who can now tell you, so the Eagles or
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Speaker 2: any team that's got like I put this on sports
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Speaker 2: Grid in January. I said it's going to come out
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Speaker 2: at some point, but I could tell you just from
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Speaker 2: talking to teams that Mac Jones is going to receive
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Speaker 2: a ton of interest. He's got one year left on
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Speaker 2: his deal at just under four point seven million. He
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Speaker 2: was phenomena. I was told playing filling our Brock party. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: whatever happened happened between him and Belichick. That's history in
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Speaker 2: the West Coast offense. Remember Brian Horror telling me he
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Speaker 2: could process like that was the one thing he knew
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Speaker 2: when he was with him with the Patriots. He could
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Speaker 2: see it very early, and unfortunately he had a fall
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Speaker 2: on with Belichick. It didn't work. Man. It is so
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Speaker 2: hard to find quality backup quarterback play to.
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm fascinated to see what a guy like
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Speaker 1: Malik Willis gets who shined in a very limited dose
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Speaker 1: for the Packers. I mean, he clearly did better with
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Speaker 1: the Packers that he did in Tennessee. You know, he
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Speaker 1: had good coaching and he had good infrastructure around him
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay, and you know there's a lot of
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Speaker 1: you know, so I guess in the window that he
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Speaker 1: would Miami would be interested because their head coaches Jeff
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Speaker 1: Haffley who came from Green Bay.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, gym right and Halfley too right.
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Speaker 2: And Halfley right yeah yeah both yeah, I mean, yeah, boy,
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Speaker 2: it's halfway from the defensive side of the football and
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Speaker 2: the GM John er X Sulvan whose dad Jerry, one
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Speaker 2: of the best receivers coaches NFL history. Man, he is
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Speaker 2: a riot. He's loved meeting him, getting to know him
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Speaker 2: a little bit just from attending events. But Malik Willis,
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Speaker 2: it's really a true he was horrendous with Tennessee. He
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Speaker 2: just wasn't ready. He was thrown in there when he
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Speaker 2: wasn't ready now and very as you said, very limited
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Speaker 2: playing time. Okay, let let's I mean they he just
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Speaker 2: didn't throw the football. Really. I mean when you look
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Speaker 2: at it's it's just kind of funny because I understand
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Speaker 2: he hasn't played a lot of football. I mean this
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Speaker 2: past season, I mean, he he was great. I mean
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Speaker 2: in terms of accuracy, he's actually his way up. But
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Speaker 2: in the one start me only throwing only football twenty
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Speaker 2: one times. Yeah, you know, so let's not go crazy
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Speaker 2: like it's a it's a cool story. He started to
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Speaker 2: mature a little bit in a West Coast offense, by
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Speaker 2: the way, and it started to look a lot better
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Speaker 2: where you because I remember him at the Senior Bowl.
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Speaker 2: He had an enormous arm, smaller guy, but he had
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Speaker 2: no accuracy. He just was so far away from being
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Speaker 2: ready to play. But it's in a quarterback star of league,
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Speaker 2: and it's it's hard to find guys who've got this
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Speaker 2: much time. He's young, he hasn't really had a big
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Speaker 2: injury history. The other two starts that he had in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four one start fourteen in towns one starts
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Speaker 2: another start fifteen. So you can't be thinking that like
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Speaker 2: people saying, ah, he's getting a twenty five million yeire,
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Speaker 2: what are you talking to?
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Speaker 1: No, No, you can't even you can't sign him to
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Speaker 1: be your definitive starter. Are you gonna sign him to
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Speaker 1: have him compete with somebody else?
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Speaker 2: Guy? Yeah, Daniel Daniel Jones is a great example. Good,
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Speaker 2: good one. Daniel Jones would be the perfect example. Signed
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Speaker 2: for one year of fifteen million, right and now could
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Speaker 2: he get a two year deal? Look on your point
11:09
Speaker 2: with Miami because of their familiarity with him, of course
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Speaker 2: they're going to have to eat a lot of money
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Speaker 2: with Tua. But look, they need a quarterback, right, This
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Speaker 2: is a bad draft man. After Mendoza, we would not
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Speaker 2: see another one going in the first round. It's true.
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Speaker 2: I no lock, no lock, you know. So if you
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Speaker 2: need one, you're looking for one, and folks, the other
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Speaker 2: than Willis kirk Cousins is going to be cut Rogers.
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Speaker 2: I know the Steelers of interests bringing him back. Daniel
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Speaker 2: Jones is coming back from a major injury. Other than that,
11:39
Speaker 2: Juno Smith likely to be cut. Why because he's They're
11:42
Speaker 2: going to draft Mendoza and they can't. Just to give
11:45
Speaker 2: you an idea, Howard, I don't know why the Raiders felt.
11:48
Speaker 2: I get that Pete Carroll's this guy. I understand that,
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Speaker 2: But why do they have to give him fully guaranteed
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Speaker 2: money in year two?
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Speaker 1: He's got Who are they competing against?
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Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, thank you, that's my line. They're not
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Speaker 2: at any but they were training for him for christ sake,
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Speaker 2: like so I'm glad you use that phrase. So year
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Speaker 2: two his cash is twenty six point five million. They
12:13
Speaker 2: fully guaranteed its signing eighteen point five million, and then
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Speaker 2: the rest of it becomes fully guaranteed on March thirteenth,
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Speaker 2: fifth day of the league year. Like why, like why? Why?
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Speaker 1: Great question?
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Speaker 2: What? What's that?
12:29
Speaker 1: That's a great it's a great question.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just don't understand. It's not like
12:32
Speaker 2: them to do that. I know that they don't go
12:35
Speaker 2: in thinking he'll fail. He was horrendous, like the left
12:38
Speaker 2: tackle missed most of the season, calt Miller. They're one
12:41
Speaker 2: of the worst offensive we've ever seen. But man, I
12:44
Speaker 2: don't know. So it's just it's just that it just
12:49
Speaker 2: didn't work obviously, and Pete's Pete was canned. So and
12:53
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, oh my god, was he bad as an
12:55
Speaker 2: alice coordinator. It was just a disaster. And Okay, do
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Speaker 2: you know could go somewhere if they can't trade him,
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Speaker 2: which seems to be realistic and they caught him, he
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Speaker 2: might go somewhere to be a compete guy, which compete
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Speaker 2: for starting job?
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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, any of those teams that you mentioned, right,
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Speaker 1: whether the Cardinals or the Jets or the well he
13:12
Speaker 1: was already with the Jets ones, but still, any of
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Speaker 1: those teams that need a quarterback that someone who can
13:17
Speaker 1: be a professional right away, then yeah, of course you're
13:20
Speaker 1: gonna want to actually it's gonna be pretty interesting because
13:23
Speaker 1: of all those teams you mentioned, and because Gino has
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Speaker 1: been a decent quarterback at times that he might have
13:28
Speaker 1: a pretty decent market, so cause they're gonna be like
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Speaker 1: you just said, there's just not a lot of options.
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Speaker 1: And if you need a quarterback and you've got cap
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Speaker 1: space or you got cash up front, bam, yep, that
13:38
Speaker 1: becomes really vital. So those are the four main guys
13:40
Speaker 1: you just mentioned. Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, and
13:44
Speaker 1: Malik Willis on a different tier there and it'll be
13:48
Speaker 1: interesting to see where they all want to. If you're
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Speaker 1: the Colts, you can't have gone through everything you went through,
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Speaker 1: made those trades to let Daniel Jones now walk out
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Speaker 1: the door even though he has he has to come
13:57
Speaker 1: back from another major injury. Like it's hard to you
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Speaker 1: got no first round picks now because of the trades
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Speaker 1: you made. You gotta like you're gonna have to pay
14:04
Speaker 1: him something to have him come back, And well I would.
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put the friend I put the transition tag
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Speaker 2: on him because you right first refusal. I'd absolutely do that. Yeah,
14:15
Speaker 2: I'm with you, And this is a torn Achilles. You
14:17
Speaker 2: have the a c L with the Giants, and you
14:22
Speaker 2: don't like that he's coming off that. And plus because
14:23
Speaker 2: he's such a runner, you don't like that he's coming
14:25
Speaker 2: off that injury. That does limit him because he had
14:28
Speaker 2: the ankle injury last season before it tore the Achilles.
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Speaker 2: And man, you're right, they're so boxed in. They're so
14:35
Speaker 2: boxed in.
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Speaker 1: Yep.
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Speaker 2: And Anthony Richardson has been so bad you can't trust him.
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Speaker 2: It's there. They're in a tough way. Man, this is
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Speaker 2: not a year two need a quarterback, I'm telling you.
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Speaker 2: So there might be some guy. Look Tanner mckeeth, he
14:50
Speaker 2: goes have tremendous leverage here. Yeah, this is just an
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Speaker 2: opinion and I might change my mind on this one
14:56
Speaker 2: based on what I find out this coming week. I
14:59
Speaker 2: don't see them trading for less than one. I know
15:01
Speaker 2: the Washington game wasn't good. I get that. That's that's fair.
15:05
Speaker 2: I mean it was as Greg Sel said, he he
15:08
Speaker 2: probably was keeping himself at Knight with some frozy missed
15:11
Speaker 2: he would not miss, but didn't he played. He was
15:13
Speaker 2: very uneven that game. Now that Daris Cooper and he
15:16
Speaker 2: not had that dumb penalty that Peoples probably would have
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Speaker 2: won that game. But nevertheless that you can't look, he
15:20
Speaker 2: didn't play well in that one game. But yep, he's
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Speaker 2: got He's got a lot you like, size, arm strength.
15:27
Speaker 2: He's not an athlete, but man, his his mobility is
15:29
Speaker 2: improved greatly from what we saw when he literally was
15:31
Speaker 2: a statue of liberty when he was drafted. Yeah. So,
15:36
Speaker 2: but other than that, I mean, you look at the
15:37
Speaker 2: the the the backup list, Sam Howe, Garoppolo, Wentz coming
15:42
Speaker 2: off a shoulder surgery, Flacco, my understanding, he still wants
15:45
Speaker 2: to play, Mariota Pickett, Tyrod Taylor, Russell Wilson. The question
15:51
Speaker 2: is did why did he even want to? He's made
15:53
Speaker 2: so much money, he's almost a third stringer now want
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Speaker 2: to play?
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't even know if the market for
16:02
Speaker 1: even within a bare quarterback market. I'm just not sure
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Speaker 1: the tape has been good enough anymore to even bring
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Speaker 1: the guy in to compete.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just for a roll it. He's not gonna be
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Speaker 2: a FIRS starting job. We're just talking about it. Roll
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Speaker 2: It's so good, right right, Trubisky, Trey lance Man, he
16:16
Speaker 2: never made it well, Minshew Eastern Stick case Kenean zach Wells.
16:22
Speaker 2: So what an awful list overall?
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Speaker 1: All right, So I have two thoughts on what you said.
16:27
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get to both of them. Sure, First,
16:30
Speaker 1: I'm the key. My initial thought up until recently when
16:35
Speaker 1: we started talking about this podcast was that I could
16:38
Speaker 1: see McKee going for a top fifty. It didn't have
16:42
Speaker 1: to be an overall number one, like a number one
16:44
Speaker 1: first round pick. It would be top fifty. I would
16:47
Speaker 1: have thought that good business. But to your point, with
16:51
Speaker 1: so many teams needing quarterbacks, it would be very how
16:54
Speaker 1: we like to just let that first wave sign, Let
16:57
Speaker 1: the first four guys, you know, Rab Jones, Cousins, Garoppolo,
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Speaker 1: maybe even let them sign, and then find those three
17:05
Speaker 1: teams that still need a starting quarterback that couldn't get
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Speaker 1: one of those, and see if they you hold them
17:11
Speaker 1: to the fire. Now you give me a one for
17:12
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee, because what you got is not Tanner McKee
17:15
Speaker 1: right now. So I could see Howie being shrew let
17:18
Speaker 1: that let those first guys sign, because so many teams,
17:21
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, need starting quarterbacks, that teams will
17:24
Speaker 1: get desperate once the mark, once the pool starts to
17:27
Speaker 1: shallow out. And if you're say the Jets and you
17:31
Speaker 1: didn't get Daniel Jones or Aaron Well, you're not getting
17:34
Speaker 1: Aarro rounded with the Jets that that ship sailed you
17:37
Speaker 1: don't you don't get you don't get Kirk Cousins and
17:39
Speaker 1: maybe Milike Willis does go to Miami and now you're
17:41
Speaker 1: looking at the crop here do out Carson Wentz, Sam
17:44
Speaker 1: owl flat. Oh no, then you start to and you
17:46
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Jets have a million picks
17:49
Speaker 1: right from all the trades, so and the Jets and
17:51
Speaker 1: Eagles seem to seemingly always make trades. So my point is,
17:54
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you in that how we
17:55
Speaker 1: can let this thing play out knowing that demand is
17:59
Speaker 1: far greater then supply, and that will probably drive the
18:02
Speaker 1: price up for Mickey.
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Speaker 2: That built leverage exactly where I was going. The Eagles
18:04
Speaker 2: would have tremendousis I want to say at the top, they
18:06
Speaker 2: would have benist leverage if they are willing to engage
18:10
Speaker 2: and try and how he getting enough teams involved where
18:14
Speaker 2: he can get possibly a one or even if it's
18:16
Speaker 2: a two and a five whatever. Now obviously that team
18:19
Speaker 2: is putting there, they're putting it out there. Yeah, they
18:22
Speaker 2: would be. I mean, if you're making that kind of trade,
18:26
Speaker 2: there's no debate. Mcke's your guy. You're giving up significant competition.
18:29
Speaker 2: He comes in, there's no there's no challenge, there's no competition.
18:32
Speaker 2: He is the guy. Yeah, and you better be right,
18:35
Speaker 2: because when you miss a quarterback, man, it sets you back.
18:39
Speaker 1: My second thought was looking at that pool of the
18:43
Speaker 1: second or third tier, if you want to call him
18:44
Speaker 1: free aging quarterbacks that we were just talking about. If
18:48
Speaker 1: you're Manion and you want to bring in a guy
18:50
Speaker 1: that is comfortable with your scheme and can could be
18:52
Speaker 1: that guy. If you're keeping McKee and you're looking for
18:54
Speaker 1: a number three, Trey Lance might be that guy. You mean,
18:58
Speaker 1: he's drafted by the forty nine ers, just play in
19:00
Speaker 1: the Shanahan offense. You know, he's someone who can. I mean,
19:03
Speaker 1: he probably still has to show himself growth, but he
19:06
Speaker 1: does know the offense. And same thing with Garoppolo. Now,
19:10
Speaker 1: Garoppolo might be more of a still of a good
19:13
Speaker 1: backup at this point. And if you're keeping McKee, I'm
19:15
Speaker 1: not sure if you're bringing Garoppolo to be a three,
19:17
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's at.
19:18
Speaker 2: No, you're not bringing you're bringing. I don't think that's
19:20
Speaker 2: gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: But if you lost McKee, he would be I think
19:24
Speaker 1: an ideal. Oh yeah, because of his knowledge of the offense.
19:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they wanted, they want this offense that they're
19:30
Speaker 2: gonna runs timing based certainly, no doubt about it. A
19:35
Speaker 2: couple of these guys have played in it before. But man,
19:38
Speaker 2: it's just this is the worst that I've seen it.
19:41
Speaker 2: Not that quarterbacks should never be great in fregency, you
19:44
Speaker 2: shouldn't be letting good quarterbacks make it. But there's a
19:46
Speaker 2: reason Jones injury history, Rogers Age Causin is going to
19:51
Speaker 2: be cut because of his contract. Willis has just been
19:55
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good story. That became a quality backup.
19:58
Speaker 2: He's certainly a quality backup. He's now deaf like based
20:00
Speaker 2: on I know it's very limited and didn't throw the
20:02
Speaker 2: ball up, but when he did, boy, he's actually he's better.
20:04
Speaker 2: He's making better decisions, he's he's not hauling the balls long,
20:08
Speaker 2: and he's just got he's got. There's a lot of
20:10
Speaker 2: ability there. He was just super raw, uh when he
20:14
Speaker 2: was drafted and now you see it. So his market
20:18
Speaker 2: will be fascinating to see what happens with him. But overall, man,
20:22
Speaker 2: there's a singing in the national football like when you
20:23
Speaker 2: don't have one, you're looking for one, and there's so
20:25
Speaker 2: many teams that need one.
20:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, was there any other name that stuck in? I
20:28
Speaker 1: mean Carson Wentz? No, this is not a no. I
20:31
Speaker 1: mean he did. He did just play in Minnesota, so
20:34
Speaker 1: he does have that kind of now that background of it.
20:37
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you go you're not going
20:38
Speaker 1: back to that.
20:39
Speaker 2: That's not going back here. Yeah, major shoulder surgery.
20:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, Torod Taylor's been around for a while, so I
20:46
Speaker 1: would imagine he could learn an offense very quickly, but
20:48
Speaker 1: it's still not someone who's going to help teach it
20:51
Speaker 1: to everybody else while he's still learning it.
20:53
Speaker 2: Yeah. So no matter what team, not just the Eagles,
20:55
Speaker 2: whatever team needs a back up, it's Garoppolo. It's how
20:59
Speaker 2: will be fast because you got to go back a
21:02
Speaker 2: while since he's played, but very intriguing and that this
21:05
Speaker 2: is the time when Ark the enemy was seemingly calm
21:07
Speaker 2: passes every down Yeah, Washington. Oh see Flack Flacco showed
21:12
Speaker 2: he could still sling it, but he's not what he
21:14
Speaker 2: was with the Browns when he put the team on
21:15
Speaker 2: his back, Mariota was not terrible. Well he let's put
21:20
Speaker 2: it this way, he looked way better with the Commandos
21:22
Speaker 2: than he did here in Philly.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
21:25
Speaker 2: Lance, to me, he's just so raw that he's never
21:28
Speaker 2: been able to be with the staff that could develop him.
21:33
Speaker 2: You just you need, you need someone to want the
21:35
Speaker 2: guy he's got. He's got good size, he moves well enough,
21:39
Speaker 2: he's got a big arm. He just needs somebody to
21:41
Speaker 2: want him and to develop him. And that's pretty much it. Man,
21:45
Speaker 2: that the boy this is. I mean, like I said,
21:49
Speaker 2: we may not see two quarterbacks going in the first round.
21:51
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous, but could happen.
21:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, I'm with you on Lance. I mean,
21:55
Speaker 1: if you if you wind up keep holding on to
21:57
Speaker 1: Tanner McKee and you're just looking for that number three,
21:59
Speaker 1: a guy that A knows the offensive B maybe you
22:01
Speaker 1: can you can develop and you can finally reach then
22:05
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense there, a lot more
22:07
Speaker 1: than some of the other names that we were talking about.
22:08
Speaker 1: Were just like, I could you see Joe Flacco coming? Nah,
22:11
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's that's what their their aim
22:14
Speaker 1: would be at this point, I don't even know do
22:16
Speaker 1: you know anything on where Joe Flacco was at if
22:18
Speaker 1: he still wants to.
22:18
Speaker 2: Play he wants I understand now I said it earlier.
22:21
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he's what he wants to play.
22:23
Speaker 1: Oh, he does want to play, Okay, all right, Well
22:26
Speaker 1: he is an interesting one. He's got a lot of experience.
22:28
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with that. But that's a
22:30
Speaker 1: look at quarterback. By the way, kiss Keenum, not case Keenum.
22:34
Speaker 1: Eastern Stick jumped out at me because he, uh, he's
22:37
Speaker 1: basically been with the Chargers.
22:38
Speaker 2: Right charges the Falcons. Yeah, we we put it out
22:42
Speaker 2: there that it was either going to be who is it?
22:44
Speaker 1: Uh?
22:45
Speaker 2: It was? It was it Pick or it was Easton
22:47
Speaker 2: Stick and somebody else the Eagles were on.
22:49
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember that. I can't remember now it was Pickets.
22:53
Speaker 1: There was somebody else in there.
22:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no, maybe it was they it was they
22:57
Speaker 2: brought it was either when they traded for Picket or
22:59
Speaker 2: they brought someone else in as we just know for factors,
23:01
Speaker 2: either Easton Stick or whoever they got anyway.
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Speaker 1: Right right, all right, good stuff. That is a look
23:07
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks in our next episode. We'll go for
23:09
Speaker 1: free agent running backs, a very interesting class of free agents,
23:13
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