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July 15, 2026 (Hour 2) · Zone 1150 - Chip Howard's SportsTalk

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Speaker 5: I may have inadvertently cursed England because I made this
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Speaker 5: have you forged out the comment? Okay, yeah, yeah, I
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Speaker 3: Cornelius, Jared Hickson today.
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Speaker 4: When we started the show, right at the top of
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Speaker 4: the four o'clock hour, that England Argentina match was.
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Speaker 3: Just blowing up. Within like a few minutes.
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Speaker 4: With the seventy seventh minute, England takes a one mil
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Speaker 4: lead in Argentina.
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Speaker 3: Well you said it was the eighties. Fifth minute was.
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Speaker 4: The first and to to tie and then come back
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Speaker 4: with a second goal to take the lead both off
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Speaker 4: Messi assists to now knock England out of the tournament.
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Speaker 4: And like it's I'm sure on either side you'd see
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Speaker 4: little kids crying, but like they just they were able
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Speaker 4: to hone in on Fox just every little kid white.
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Speaker 5: And actually that's not Fox, that is the international feed. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: so that's the same feed that the entire yeah yeah.
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, but that that feed like this just
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Speaker 3: tiny little kids just.
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Speaker 5: In well and I mean you again, especially if you've
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Speaker 5: been if you've traveled across the pond really from any country,
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Speaker 5: but you've traveled across the pond. You've been following your
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Speaker 5: team for almost three weeks. Now, you've been you know,
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Speaker 5: city to city. You've enjoyed this ride and it and
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Speaker 5: it ends like that just heartbreaking at the end, as
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Speaker 5: Aggie as we know that feeling, because that's that's honestly
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Speaker 5: how I felt at A and in Miami in our
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Speaker 5: first playoff game, because you just you felt, you felt
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Speaker 5: like as as time was ticking down, especially in the
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Speaker 5: fourth quarter, you just kind of felt like, either it's
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Speaker 5: gonna happen or it's not. And then when Miami goes up,
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Speaker 5: and then you know, now we're driving and it seems like, okay,
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Speaker 5: maybe we can maybe we can tie this up. And
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Speaker 5: then you throw the interception and it's just like, well,
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Speaker 5: that's it. But again, we get to at least potentially
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Speaker 5: exercise those demons. Following late August, recruiting.
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Speaker 4: Season comes in spring game, and then you have that
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Speaker 4: lull into the summer and you're just like, oh, like
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Speaker 4: right now kind of tired of baseball. I don't I mean,
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Speaker 4: I watched the Summer League but like and then you
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Speaker 4: start seeing those reels and those memes about like how
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Speaker 4: many weekends till the how many weekends do we have?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean I've already seen you know, they're
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Speaker 5: already putting out who the the A and M players
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Speaker 5: that are going to SEC media.
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Speaker 4: Days, Media media Days, and so yeah that who cares
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Speaker 4: about last year? Like last year's over, Like it's exactly
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Speaker 4: we're ready for this year now. And you're, oh God,
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Speaker 4: You're like, I here's the You're putting it in the
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Speaker 4: best perspective. Imagine, as a college football fan, if the
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Speaker 4: college football season was every four years, Like I can't, like,
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Speaker 4: as I'm saying it right now, I cannot imagine college
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Speaker 4: football is every four years.
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Speaker 5: Now, and especially when you have the talent, like when
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Speaker 5: you have a truly talented team and you come up short.
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Speaker 5: That's to me, again, as Aggie's we haven't known this
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Speaker 5: many times, so we've known it several times. That's where
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Speaker 5: it just truly socks you in the gut, because that's
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Speaker 5: when the reality sets in of all those factors that
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Speaker 5: have to come together for that one moment in time,
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Speaker 5: you know, thinking nineteen eighties US hockey versus the Soviet Union.
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Speaker 5: I mean, all those factors have to come into play
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Speaker 5: it that one time to get that result, and if
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Speaker 5: you don't do it, it's like there's no you have
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Speaker 5: no assurance that you're going to get another shot at it.
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Speaker 5: And with college football at least and especially well especially
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Speaker 5: pre transfer portal, but we could even say the transfer
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Speaker 5: portal does kind of help in this regard. You at
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Speaker 5: least know that, Okay, when we come up short, here's
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Speaker 5: here's here's where we got to get it fixed, and
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Speaker 5: we've got five months to do it, to wait three
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Speaker 5: and a half years.
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Speaker 4: Because here here's the perfect parallel with that, because you
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Speaker 4: we we've got our club football, because we've got the NFL.
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Speaker 3: We've got we've got that.
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Speaker 4: So that's every year you you've got that, you've got
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Speaker 4: the super Bowl, same as champions like we.
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Speaker 3: Would have that covered. Imagine for just the moment, if you.
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Speaker 4: Will, colleague, because college football has the same kind of
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Speaker 4: passion as as you you're rooting for your country, when
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Speaker 4: you're rooting for I mean, that's where that's how.
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Speaker 3: Deep the passion is, Yes, it is that is that.
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Speaker 4: I think that is how we can fully explain how
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Speaker 4: some of these people feel.
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Speaker 5: Imagine there is there is no difference between Sawing Varsity's
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Speaker 5: horns off and Norwegian rowing. There is.
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Speaker 4: You are root like that is the depth of the
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Speaker 4: passion when you were for World soccer and World Cup
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Speaker 4: soccer that they're doing. So I'm I'm giving myself a
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Speaker 4: panic attack thinking what if college football was every four
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Speaker 4: years and what it would be like. You think battered
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Speaker 4: aggie syndrome is bad. Now, this is how England is
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Speaker 4: feeling right now because you put like you've made it
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Speaker 4: to the semifinals.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I hate to say this, England's
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Speaker 5: at least won the dad gum thing since nineteen thirty
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Speaker 5: nine and.
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Speaker 4: That, but right now and they're talking about on sports
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Speaker 4: right now and being on side of it, but like,
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Speaker 4: like you've made it to the semifinals. You are leading
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Speaker 4: in the seventy eighth minute of the match, you've got
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Speaker 4: to make it twelve minutes plus a little extra and
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Speaker 4: this team comes back in Argentina and.
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Speaker 3: And we didn't say, no, they didn't. England did not lose.
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Speaker 3: They didn't.
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Speaker 5: They didn't lose. But I'm already seeing it. I'm already
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Speaker 5: seeing it on my feed where Tukele, the English manager
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Speaker 5: who has made stellar decisions, stellar substitutions throughout this whole tournament.
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Speaker 5: It's it's looking there targeting him with the those late
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Speaker 5: substitutions and the tactical changes that England made. As as
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Speaker 5: how Argentina was able to come back and and win
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Speaker 5: this as they have, and you know that was that
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Speaker 5: was one of the reasons why Garrit Southgate, the previous
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Speaker 5: English manager, was forced to step down after the Euros
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Speaker 5: is because of tactical decisions and they just felt like,
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Speaker 5: if England's going to take the next step, we need
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Speaker 5: we need someone well basically we need a German UH
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Speaker 5: to get us there. And now it looks like he
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Speaker 5: may maybe fall the same fate based on poor tactical
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Speaker 5: decisions at a very critical juncture, because, as we're pointing
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Speaker 5: out right now, you don't get another shot at this
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Speaker 5: for three years.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, for three more years, which now leads me to
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Speaker 4: something that I think is especially for me.
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Speaker 3: I am, I am.
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Speaker 4: I don't own a single soccer Jersey but I like
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Speaker 4: to watch I will watch Champions League.
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Speaker 3: I don't have and you and I have talked about this.
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Speaker 4: I don't have a club team that I follow, which
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Speaker 4: makes that's what makes it hard for me to get
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Speaker 4: into either Premiere or any of the other big.
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Speaker 3: Leagues around the world.
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Speaker 4: And so I'm not But how again, World Cup comes on,
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch obviously I'll watch him, but like and
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Speaker 4: so I saw a story and I'm gonna preface this
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Speaker 4: with this with this question, how do you think the
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Speaker 4: US men's team did this World Cup?
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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought the subs because I'm going to
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Speaker 5: give you two answers. The first answer is they did.
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Speaker 5: They ultimately were successful in one regard. They inspired the
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Speaker 5: country to get excited about this tournament and specifically this
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Speaker 5: team for three for four matches, including the loss to Turkey.
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Speaker 5: I you saw that the United States can get on
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Speaker 5: a field with international competition, they can score goals, they
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Speaker 5: can be the aggressors, and they can look like they
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Speaker 5: can compete. And that forced you then to watch other
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Speaker 5: countries and see the style of play that they play with.
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Speaker 5: And so this why say they were successful? If you
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Speaker 5: now have and this sport is growing in popularity in
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Speaker 5: this country, and a part of that is because you're
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Speaker 5: seeing parents more concerned about the long term effects of
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Speaker 5: playing more popular sports like full contact football.
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Speaker 3: Set that aside.
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Speaker 5: If you, if you are, if you, if we were
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Speaker 5: able to get the younger generations excited about watching the
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Speaker 5: sport to the point where now they're they're going to
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Speaker 5: go to YouTube, They're gonna pull up videos, they're going
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Speaker 5: to see, you know, things that Maradonoda did, Pelee did,
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Speaker 5: old reels of you know, Messy and Rinaldo, and they're
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Speaker 5: going to try and do that stuff when they're out
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Speaker 5: at soccer camps, which I've been seeing that for the
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Speaker 5: past two nights.
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Speaker 3: Over at the Purple School.
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Speaker 5: Then you are potentially setting the stage for what the
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Speaker 5: United States needs to do, which is you've got to
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Speaker 5: get the youth more inspired to learn how to play
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Speaker 5: this game at a cultural level, not at a instructional level,
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Speaker 5: which is where the United States has been for multiple decades.
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Speaker 5: The flip side to that, so this is the second
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Speaker 5: part of that answer is the United States did fail.
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Speaker 5: The United States men team did fail because we knew this.
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Speaker 5: We knew we were going to have this World Cup
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Speaker 5: on our home soil for eight years. You knew that,
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Speaker 5: you knew the generation of players you had because you've
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Speaker 5: been bringing them up in the system.
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Speaker 3: We knew, we knew.
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Speaker 5: The golden This was supposed to be the Golden generation.
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Speaker 5: We knew that. And what did we do. We did
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Speaker 5: the same thing that the United States does in any
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Speaker 5: level of sport. We make it too bureaucratic. We leave
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Speaker 5: people in power who don't know how to make good decisions,
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Speaker 5: and they keep incompetent people like Greg Burke Alter as
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Speaker 5: your men's national coach two years longer than you should
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Speaker 5: have been. And then what happens. The team just kind
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Speaker 5: of flounders for two and a half years leading up
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Speaker 5: to the World Cup. You don't even you're not even
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Speaker 5: competitive in in coffee, calf and anything, and so yeah,
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Speaker 5: and so you you come into this tournament with mixed
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Speaker 5: emotions because you're not sure how you're gonna do, and
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Speaker 5: you actually exceed those expectation expectations early. But the biggest thing,
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Speaker 5: the biggest the one thing you really couldn't do is
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Speaker 5: what you ended up doing against Belgium, which has come
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Speaker 5: out play your worst game. None of you, none of
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Speaker 5: your stars really shot shown in that entire competition, in
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Speaker 5: that entire match, and you get blown out at home
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Speaker 5: and it just and you look and you looked bad
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Speaker 5: doing it. That to me is where we failed, because
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Speaker 5: I'm not saying you had to beat Belgium that that
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Speaker 5: would have been the nice part, that would have been
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Speaker 5: the that would have been the golden ticket, because again
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Speaker 5: I don't think you're beating Spain in the following round,
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Speaker 5: but you can't come out and do that. And that's
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Speaker 5: where we That to me is where we as US
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Speaker 5: men's soccer failed. Is you just you laid the worst
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Speaker 5: egg possible. I mean that was that match embodied everything
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Speaker 5: that we were worried about this squad coming into the
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Speaker 5: World Cup, Like everything we were worried about came to
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Speaker 5: fruition and that on top of and that just sets
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Speaker 5: aside the political bs that occurred leading up to it,
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Speaker 5: which didn't help, by the way, No.
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Speaker 3: It absolutely didn't help. And it turned the.
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Speaker 4: Wavering tide of excitement that everybody had. And one of
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Speaker 4: the things, and I'm glad you mentioned the leadership of
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Speaker 4: US Soccer, which also leads to Portuttino not having a
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Speaker 4: contract after this.
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Speaker 3: And so whether it is in the actual team.
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Speaker 4: Leadersh whether there's in coaching leadership, what can we do
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Speaker 4: because they gave an entire ESPN gave us an entire
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Speaker 4: list of people that could could replace him, and I'm like, well,
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Speaker 4: I'm as a casual fan, don't know who any of
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Speaker 4: those are, but like, this is the man that has
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Speaker 4: gotten us the most excitement when it comes to actually
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Speaker 4: watching soccer on the field of men in the playing
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Speaker 4: for the US men's team, and I don't know how long,
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Speaker 4: and I'm like, what do we have to do?
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Speaker 3: Because you remember And the only the.
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Speaker 4: Only equivalent that that I can put towards this is
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Speaker 4: when coach k took over the US men's basketball team.
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Speaker 5: I think, I think that's I think that's a very
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Speaker 5: apt comparison. I would I would even take it a
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Speaker 5: step back for I mean, I hope they retain Pochattino. Again.
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Speaker 5: The biggest problem you have when it comes to international
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Speaker 5: soccer in comparison to club soccer, which I know you
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Speaker 5: say you don't watch, is the fact these teams do
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Speaker 5: not play together except for a couple of weeks during
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Speaker 5: the seat during the full season. So you're never going
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Speaker 5: to you're never going to achieve you know, Real Madrid
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Speaker 5: or PSG or Liverpool or Manchester United levels. And so
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Speaker 5: it really is incumbent that whoever your manager is is
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Speaker 5: effective at identifying the players that fit the need for
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Speaker 5: the style of play and that was poaching. That's where
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Speaker 5: poach Tino excelled during this this this period that he's
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Speaker 5: been in charge is he saw what he had and
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Speaker 5: he put a product on the field to be competitive,
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Speaker 5: but there was a limitation to how competitive they could
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Speaker 5: were going to be. The question is when we played
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Speaker 5: in that Belgium, whether it was going to Belgium or Senegal,
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Speaker 5: could we could we hit above our punching weight? And
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Speaker 5: the answer to that question was no. But that goes
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Speaker 5: back to the fundamental, the fundamental thing that you have
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Speaker 5: to do. And this is where I want to bring
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Speaker 5: in another comparison. You brought up coach k with US
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Speaker 5: men's basketball. I would bring up basketball as a whole.
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Speaker 5: Think about the history of the sport prior to the eighties,
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Speaker 5: it is pretty much just a more of your urban
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Speaker 5: metro and then, for some forsaken reason, the state of
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Speaker 5: Indiana that is where you see the sport excel. You
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Speaker 5: don't see it throughout the country. But once it becomes
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Speaker 5: televised and once it becomes an attractive product with bird
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Speaker 5: and Magic, and then you go through the eighties with
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Speaker 5: the Showtime Lakers, and then as we get Michael Jordan
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Speaker 5: and we get the Bulls, and we get that, the
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Speaker 5: sport migrates throughout the country so that kids are just
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Speaker 5: if you've got a basketball and you've got a goal,
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Speaker 5: you're going to go out and you're going to play.
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Speaker 5: That's and it ultimately what it had take. It took
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Speaker 5: about two generations to get us there. That's really what soccer.
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Speaker 5: If the United States wants to go from basically a
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Speaker 5: mid tier country too, I'm not saying you're going to
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Speaker 5: be the top tier, but at least be competitive in
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Speaker 5: those upper tiers. That's what it's gonna take. And so
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Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying. If this World Cup did anything,
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Speaker 5: hopefully it did inspire the youth. And I'm talking specifically boys,
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Speaker 5: because again women's soccer has done well, but we've also
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Speaker 5: seen that in just in less than a decade, the
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Speaker 5: rest of the world has really caught up. And it's
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Speaker 5: a lot of that is because those girls have been
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Speaker 5: playing soccer their whole lives. They just haven't been able
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Speaker 5: to play it on a bigger stage until recently. For
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Speaker 5: the US boys. That's what it's ultimately going to take
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Speaker 5: that You've got a soccer ball, and you've got an
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Speaker 5: open field, and you pretend what's a goal, and they
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Speaker 5: can go out there and they can just play intuitively.
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Speaker 5: That's why I say I think basketball is the most
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Speaker 5: apt comparison because now that it is more visible, that's
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Speaker 5: how the sport permeates through the culture.
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Speaker 4: Oh and I guess basketball is a perfect example of that,
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Speaker 4: because what other sport even basketball and soccer both team sports,
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Speaker 4: but what other sports? And you said it perfectly that
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Speaker 4: where you just need the ball and the net and
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Speaker 4: yourself and you can go out and do it like
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Speaker 4: you don't need what else do you need to play soccer?
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Speaker 5: If well, in a lot of part of the world
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Speaker 5: and a lot of the the world, they're not well
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Speaker 5: they're not even playing with the real ball. I mean,
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Speaker 5: they're playing with what they make into a ball. That
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Speaker 5: that's what I mean. You you hate to say that's
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Speaker 5: you that this country can do better, But it can
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Speaker 5: do better. It's just it has to become ingrained in
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Speaker 5: the culture, and it has to start young. Because, like
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Speaker 5: I said, when you watch the US play soccer, so
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Speaker 5: much of it looks instructional. It you can tell that
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Speaker 5: this is a sport that, yes, these boys have probably
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Speaker 5: been playing their whole lives, but the way they've been
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Speaker 5: coached has been from a very instructional level instead of
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Speaker 5: more of an intuitive level, which is what you I mean,
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Speaker 5: what you see with not just messy, but with so
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Speaker 5: many of those guys on the Argentina team, they can
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Speaker 5: they they play almost with a sixth sense of knowing
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Speaker 5: the field and knowing what's happening while they're in motion.
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Speaker 5: We've got some Americans who who can coach that way.
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Speaker 5: Jeff Gibbons. I don't even know if you're listening because
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Speaker 5: you're not on Facebook, but I mean he's coached my girls,
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Speaker 5: and I just try to soak in everything he instructs
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Speaker 5: because he sees he sees the field in ways that
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Speaker 5: I probably never will.
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Speaker 4: What and here's what, going back to how you and
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Speaker 4: I talk about the business of sports a lot, what
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Speaker 4: would it take? Because here with what made also basketball
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Speaker 4: become what it was throughout the eighties and the nineties was.
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Speaker 3: The NBA being the league?
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Speaker 4: What and MLS will never be premiere now MLS will
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Speaker 4: never be La Liga. It will probably like but what
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Speaker 4: can it What would it take? Other than like if
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Speaker 4: it is not.
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Speaker 3: Must see TV on NB like and it's not yet,
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Speaker 3: and so that's okay.
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of because you got to think.
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Speaker 4: Before Matt and Messi's helping with this sum but before
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Speaker 4: Magic Bird, NBA wasn't on TV no, no, the way
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Speaker 4: it was with them, So.
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Speaker 3: What what where is that coming from?
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think okay, Texas is perfect for this
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Speaker 5: because we have a true dichotomy going on Austin FC.
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Speaker 5: Those games sell out all the time. Now you can
21:37
Speaker 5: get tickets, but I mean those games are largely sell us.
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Speaker 5: They're huge of their they're big events. I mean I
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Speaker 5: think it's a thirty thousand seas stadium, so we're not
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Speaker 5: talking to massive, but the people show up for it.
21:48
Speaker 5: Whereas the Houston Dynamo if they're not playing well, they're
21:53
Speaker 5: not drawing crowds. I don't think they're even drawing crowds
21:57
Speaker 5: approaching ten to fifteen thousand. So intuitively, that tells me.
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Speaker 5: That tells me within the United States, if you if
22:07
Speaker 5: you want eyeballs, it's it's got to be a winning product.
22:12
Speaker 5: So now we're talking international funny we bring all this up.
22:16
Speaker 5: Today was announced USA Sports, which already is broadcasting Premier
22:21
Speaker 5: League kind of under the NBC Sports banner, but they
22:25
Speaker 5: are separate companies, but some there's some merger talks along anyway.
22:29
Speaker 5: They just signed a deal to broadcast the Bundesligue as well.
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Speaker 5: So now you're gonna have top flight English football and
22:36
Speaker 5: you're gonna have top flight German football broadcast. I don't
22:40
Speaker 5: think they're doing that just to fill airtime. They know
22:44
Speaker 5: they know there are eyeballs who want to watch. That's
22:49
Speaker 5: the more, the more compelling product that you can put
22:53
Speaker 5: on TV, the more eyeballs it will draw.
22:55
Speaker 3: How many players?
22:56
Speaker 4: And I'm and again this is me being the casual fan.
22:59
Speaker 4: How many players on the United States team this year
23:03
Speaker 4: play in.
23:04
Speaker 3: One of those leads?
23:05
Speaker 5: I want to say four?
23:07
Speaker 3: And so where do the rest of them play? Are?
23:12
Speaker 5: Some are are in playing or playing in MLS, Some
23:16
Speaker 5: are playing in some of the lower divisions across international soccer.
23:20
Speaker 5: I mean that that's kind of it's it's not just
23:24
Speaker 5: about playing in top flight. I mean, if if nothing else,
23:29
Speaker 5: Cape Verde is the perfect example that you don't have
23:32
Speaker 5: all your players don't have to come from Premier League
23:35
Speaker 5: or League absolute league. But what we need is more
23:42
Speaker 5: of that experience coming home and trickling down.
23:47
Speaker 3: Throughout the systems.
23:47
Speaker 4: And and that's where I'm asking that question of like,
23:50
Speaker 4: where are they playing, because if the youth are not
23:54
Speaker 4: seeing them to be able to relate to them on TV,
23:58
Speaker 4: if there's if we're only watching Premier League or now
24:04
Speaker 4: and none of those guys were like because the infancy
24:07
Speaker 4: of the growth of the NBA came from Magic and
24:10
Speaker 4: Bird and Michael because and those are guys that we
24:13
Speaker 4: knew and could see and could and what I guess
24:16
Speaker 4: what American.
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Speaker 5: Are I guess what I would say to that is,
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Speaker 5: hopefully we see what has transpired in the international basketball
24:26
Speaker 5: because again, now, because what Drew eyeballs to grow international basketball,
24:34
Speaker 5: it was most likely.
24:35
Speaker 3: It was Michael that dream team, hell the dream team.
24:38
Speaker 5: So we're talking ninety two when you talk about Michael
24:40
Speaker 5: Jordan and all those stars, and now that that creates
24:43
Speaker 5: the the desire to to watch this on a more
24:47
Speaker 5: regular basis, and all of a sudden, that starts to
24:49
Speaker 5: permeate through those countries, you know, and I know they
24:52
Speaker 5: had long had their own leagues and systems, but obviously
25:00
Speaker 5: something in the water changed. Because again, if coach k
25:04
Speaker 5: has to come in and save US men's basketball from
25:08
Speaker 5: getting beat by the international countries. It's because they have
25:12
Speaker 5: now adopted that sport and are finding way finding ways
25:18
Speaker 5: to become the better players, and that's we kind of
25:21
Speaker 5: need the university, or not the inverse, We need that
25:23
Speaker 5: in the United States. By watching more of the international product.
25:28
Speaker 3: We started talking at a little bit about basketball. I
25:30
Speaker 3: want to get I was trying to tee you up
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Speaker 3: to it.
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Speaker 5: I was really trying to tee you up to it
25:35
Speaker 5: like this match today. But I appreciate it. I appreciate
25:37
Speaker 5: you bringing this up because this is something I did
25:39
Speaker 5: want to discuss absolutely during these three days, because again,
25:42
Speaker 5: I really do feel like it is a two sided coin.
25:45
Speaker 5: There was success, but yes there was failure from the
25:48
Speaker 5: US men's side.
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Speaker 5: Uh, say, how do you know it's the slow time
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Speaker 3: We're exactly we are here and the SBS are on.
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Speaker 4: Uh, they're talking like an exciting match from England and Ardentina.
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Speaker 4: And we've been talking about that so much today, but
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Speaker 4: it was just because Yeah, it just dominated everything. If
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Speaker 4: we're getting ready to come on the air today, I
32:23
Speaker 4: have a question and this goes back to for us,
32:27
Speaker 4: just the money of sports. So the Knicks just won
32:34
Speaker 4: the NBA title and Jalen Brunson took less than the
32:38
Speaker 4: max that he could get Victor Winbin Yama just had
32:44
Speaker 4: the opportunity to do his rookie extension, where if he
32:48
Speaker 4: had taken the Supermax it would have been three hundred
32:50
Speaker 4: million dollars. He took just the the difference. And I
32:55
Speaker 4: know I'm talking about so much money no matter what,
32:57
Speaker 4: but the difference between the max and the supermax.
32:59
Speaker 3: The super Max was three hundred million.
33:01
Speaker 4: The max that he took was two hundred and fifty
33:03
Speaker 4: two million. He left that on the table so that
33:06
Speaker 4: the San Antonio Spurs could continue to build and keep
33:10
Speaker 4: the roster as some of these other players that they
33:12
Speaker 4: had that helped him on that title or that title
33:15
Speaker 4: contention run stay with the franchise.
33:18
Speaker 3: Right now, I.
33:19
Speaker 4: Get that that is also a part of San Antonio
33:24
Speaker 4: culture because Tim Duncan did the same thing. And how
33:27
Speaker 4: that goes My question though, is, as you and I
33:31
Speaker 4: have talked about salar caps and the second apron in
33:35
Speaker 4: the NBA, should that be the player's responsibility to because again,
33:42
Speaker 4: in order to get a Supermax, you have to be
33:46
Speaker 4: on one like an All NBA team, so one of
33:49
Speaker 4: the best fifteen players in the league, or get one
33:52
Speaker 4: of the awards Defensive Player of the Year, Rookie of
33:54
Speaker 4: the Year, MVP, whatever the So in order to do that,
33:58
Speaker 4: you have to be a exceptional right in order to
34:02
Speaker 4: be eligible for for that for the super Max. And
34:07
Speaker 4: so if you have done that, for like, been able
34:10
Speaker 4: to do that, why is it why should it be
34:14
Speaker 4: incumbent upon you to not take all the money that
34:18
Speaker 4: you have earned based on your play in order to
34:21
Speaker 4: be able to keep the team around you that helps
34:23
Speaker 4: you also win.
34:26
Speaker 5: I honestly believe it comes down to the fact of
34:29
Speaker 5: what is more important to you as an individual, is
34:33
Speaker 5: it making the additional And I know this is going
34:37
Speaker 5: to sound stupid, making the additional, in this case fifty
34:40
Speaker 5: million dollars or having the having a greater ability to
34:46
Speaker 5: potentially win not just a championship, but potentially multiple championships.
34:54
Speaker 5: And as a play, as a play, if you're if
34:58
Speaker 5: you're a responsible player, and I know you brought up
35:00
Speaker 5: it's Spurs culture, but I do think I do think
35:02
Speaker 5: you're gonna you are going to start seeing this with
35:04
Speaker 5: certain players around the league who understand in this current
35:11
Speaker 5: CBA environment with the apron and the second Apron, and
35:14
Speaker 5: especially as punitive as the second apron is, if we're
35:18
Speaker 5: going to be able to be a team that will
35:21
Speaker 5: be able to compete, I am probably going to have
35:24
Speaker 5: to give up something, And hopefully that also translates to
35:31
Speaker 5: fellow players on my team who may also be eligible
35:34
Speaker 5: for higher money, maybe not necessarily Supermax, but more money,
35:38
Speaker 5: be willing to part with some of that with the
35:40
Speaker 5: understanding we're gonna need the depth if we are going
35:44
Speaker 5: to hopefully be able to compete for championships. The agents
35:51
Speaker 5: probably hate this, but there's also the transitive value of
35:57
Speaker 5: if you are a champion versus are are you just
36:01
Speaker 5: a supermax contract? And I would kind of point to
36:07
Speaker 5: Paul George because Paul George is a super max contract,
36:12
Speaker 5: But Paul George is probably gonna end his career with
36:15
Speaker 5: zero champions.
36:17
Speaker 3: Like because maybe Boston squeaks through.
36:22
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe it gets him one. Yeah, but I think
36:26
Speaker 5: that's ultimately what it's what it's going to come down to.
36:29
Speaker 5: And you know, I look at someone like a James Harden,
36:31
Speaker 5: He's probably now under the realization that I'm just gonna
36:36
Speaker 5: be a contract guy because I'm never I'm probably never
36:39
Speaker 5: going to just fall into a team that is going
36:43
Speaker 5: to compete or win a championship. If especially if my
36:46
Speaker 5: contract's on the books.
36:48
Speaker 4: Well, and that's where and that's where I'm saying, like,
36:50
Speaker 4: why is it incumbent upon the player? Well, I'm not
36:53
Speaker 4: to make that decision because again as a player, and
36:56
Speaker 4: I know I'm I'm fighting hard on the player side
36:59
Speaker 4: right now, which I probably wouldn't.
37:02
Speaker 3: I have to be one of the top fifteen player.
37:06
Speaker 4: You have to make All NBA first, second or third team,
37:09
Speaker 4: or be Rookie of the Year, or be Defensive Player
37:12
Speaker 4: of the Year, or be sixth Man of the Year
37:14
Speaker 4: will qualify you for like be one of either the
37:17
Speaker 4: top fifteen players in the league or one of the
37:21
Speaker 4: best at a single situation in the entire league in
37:25
Speaker 4: order to check the box to be able to get that,
37:29
Speaker 4: and I do all of that and now, and if
37:32
Speaker 4: I want to keep all the players that are around
37:34
Speaker 4: me that also make us a good team, I have
37:37
Speaker 4: to be the one to be like, you know what
37:39
Speaker 4: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
37:41
Speaker 3: Leave up much.
37:42
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's is the owner doing that? Well, no, again,
37:47
Speaker 5: but that's that's part of that's part of the players associations.
37:55
Speaker 3: They are going to hammer this on because.
38:00
Speaker 5: Let's contrast the two sports where we're at opposite ends
38:03
Speaker 5: of the spectrum, where you have the NFL fully salary cap,
38:06
Speaker 5: so forth and so on, in Major League Baseball, which
38:09
Speaker 5: there is no salary cap and you're probably about to
38:11
Speaker 5: have another lockout because of this issue. In the NFL
38:17
Speaker 5: you have quarterback. Again, quarterbacks the most value position in
38:21
Speaker 5: the league, if not in professional sports, especially in the
38:25
Speaker 5: United States. They're gonna draw the most money. But they
38:28
Speaker 5: have to they understand, or I would say the responsible
38:32
Speaker 5: quarterbacks understand, while I want to get paid, I also
38:37
Speaker 5: need to provide flexibility for my team to have the
38:41
Speaker 5: money to put five guys in front of me who
38:44
Speaker 5: are going to protect me, because otherwise I ain't gonna
38:48
Speaker 5: make this money. Whereas and then conversely, in Major League Baseball,
38:54
Speaker 5: it is just simply pay me as much as possible,
38:57
Speaker 5: and if you can't, I'm gonna move to the team
38:59
Speaker 5: that can. Right The NBA kind of sits in this
39:04
Speaker 5: this area between the two. They it does have a
39:08
Speaker 5: it has a salary cap in f Ish And that's
39:14
Speaker 5: why I say it really comes down to the player
39:17
Speaker 5: or players who just say is it more important to
39:20
Speaker 5: be a champion or is it more important to just
39:23
Speaker 5: make as much money as possible? And I think a
39:25
Speaker 5: lot of it just you kind of look through the
39:27
Speaker 5: history books and it's like Charles Barkley, completely beloved, dominant
39:34
Speaker 5: player through the eighties and nineties, one of the best
39:37
Speaker 5: defensive players, one of the best rebounders in the world.
39:39
Speaker 5: But what is the one thing on his you know,
39:42
Speaker 5: what's the one thing that will always be on will
39:46
Speaker 5: always be on his bio and his epitaph and his eulogy,
39:51
Speaker 5: you know, or what not eulogy. But what's the thing
39:55
Speaker 5: that goes used to go in the newspapers obituary he
39:59
Speaker 5: wasn't a champion.
40:00
Speaker 4: And no, and I get that, and I think and
40:02
Speaker 4: I would hope that because I've heard people mentioning this
40:05
Speaker 4: of what may come up in the next round of
40:07
Speaker 4: of CBA for for the NBA is the these either
40:13
Speaker 4: the max or the or the Supermax doesn't count towards
40:17
Speaker 4: the apron.
40:18
Speaker 3: So what the contract would be if they.
40:20
Speaker 4: Didn't have that trigger for the Supermax that counts towards
40:25
Speaker 4: the salary. The salary count but that like that Supermax
40:31
Speaker 4: does it Because again, if the players earned that by
40:34
Speaker 4: making either one of those boxes to check off, then
40:38
Speaker 4: that should also then penalize him if he wants to
40:41
Speaker 4: be able to like it's like, why do you want
40:43
Speaker 4: to be good?
40:45
Speaker 3: Like it's it's people.
40:46
Speaker 5: I know exactly I mean. And again, I don't think
40:49
Speaker 5: we will ever take the sides of ownership yet, but
40:55
Speaker 5: you know, these these are the these are the rules
40:59
Speaker 5: that both IDEs agree to and you and you and
41:03
Speaker 5: at least until the next contract comes up, this is
41:05
Speaker 5: how you have to You have to find the inefficiencies
41:09
Speaker 5: and the loopholes and the ways to work the system,
41:11
Speaker 5: and you know, specific to Victor Wimbinyana, this may also
41:16
Speaker 5: be a cultural thing, the fact that he is he
41:20
Speaker 5: is from France, and he he may come from a
41:24
Speaker 5: mindset that the team is more important than the individual
41:28
Speaker 5: and that might be part of his altruism and in
41:30
Speaker 5: this decision, Jalen Brunson probably I would think Jalen Brunson
41:37
Speaker 5: largely did this because a he understood the value of
41:43
Speaker 5: what it was going to take to win a win
41:44
Speaker 5: a championship and knew that that the Knicks as constructed
41:49
Speaker 5: when he got there wasn't going to be enough.
41:52
Speaker 3: Correct.
41:54
Speaker 5: But I also think that at some point he's gonna
41:58
Speaker 5: I'm not saying he's gonna to you know, turn heel,
42:01
Speaker 5: but he's gonna.
42:01
Speaker 3: He's gonna say his next contract.
42:03
Speaker 5: He's like, no, yeah, paying my money. I got you
42:06
Speaker 5: the championship, pay me my money, and just kind of
42:09
Speaker 5: as a side note, I am gonna go ahead and
42:12
Speaker 5: say it. You can feel free to disagree, and maybe
42:15
Speaker 5: history changes its perspective. But Jalen Brunson has to be
42:18
Speaker 5: the greatest free agent signing in the history of sport.
42:22
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's one that tops it.
42:25
Speaker 5: Because when you look at the fact you got him
42:27
Speaker 5: at extraordinarily extraordinarily value, I mean for next to nothing.
42:33
Speaker 5: In fact, this is something I wanted to do over
42:35
Speaker 5: these three days of while we have time, go back
42:39
Speaker 5: to the twenty eighteen NBA Draft, look at both rounds
42:43
Speaker 5: and redraft, because when you look at the top fifteen
42:47
Speaker 5: and then compare it to some of the guys who
42:49
Speaker 5: are in the second round, you're like, how did you
42:52
Speaker 5: what made you pick this this guy versus these guys
42:56
Speaker 5: down here, Because these guys down here have actually had
42:59
Speaker 5: so much more success this.
43:00
Speaker 3: Year's NBA draft.
43:01
Speaker 4: Maybe one of may go down as one of the best,
43:06
Speaker 4: just because based on the talent that we're seeing right now.
43:08
Speaker 4: But what you just made me think of, like how
43:10
Speaker 4: like how are NBA scouts and like because they met
43:16
Speaker 4: like they missed so much in the NBA, more than
43:19
Speaker 4: the NFL, more than Major league based like NBA dre
43:22
Speaker 4: like they get it wrong.
43:25
Speaker 3: Often very much.
43:26
Speaker 4: So on there, We're gonna take a break, come back
43:28
Speaker 4: in just a second, wrap up today and look forward
43:30
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Speaker 14: I'm Jed Nelson with your Texas Rangers report. The All
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Speaker 14: Star closer Jacob Blatz appear in the All Star Game
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Speaker 14: The lone Texas Rangers All Star Jacob Blatz up here
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Speaker 14: late in the game for the American League as he
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Speaker 5: TIME i, mean you, know without The World cup going,
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Speaker 5: We gotta save, that we got two more.
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Speaker 4: you you post, like was it last year this time
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Speaker 3: Perfection, yeah that's what made me think of.
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Speaker 4: It and, yes that's also reminded me that we did
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Speaker 4: a full breakdown all.
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Speaker 5: Breakdown seasons went into uh.
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Speaker 4: That lets you know what what, Again jared AND i
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Speaker 4: and we Appreciate chip for all of these years of
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Speaker 4: the month Of, july because that's Why chip isn't here.
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Speaker 3: Exactly and so, yes last year we.
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Speaker 4: Did, hey and it's again you said it perfectly or
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Speaker 4: and go over what that.
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Speaker 6: Was.
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Speaker 3: LIKE i can't believe it has already been a.
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Speaker 5: Year so while we're kind of on this subject of
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Speaker 5: things that popped up on the, timeline SO i guess
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Speaker 5: Today Warner brothers dropped the teaser For The batman.
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Speaker 3: Two, OKAY i did not see that, yet and.
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Speaker 5: It's it's maybe fifteen seconds and it Is it's just
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Speaker 5: it's you See Robert patterson in the The batman, costume
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Speaker 5: backlit red fire score. Hits he's, turning it's obviously, raining
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Speaker 5: and then it just cuts to the bat with The
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Speaker 5: roman numeral two above. It and then this is what
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Speaker 5: just like was the Gut Punch february, eighteenth twenty twenty. Eight,
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Speaker 5: yeah we got a year and a.
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Speaker 3: Half and so this is not in the New James Gunn.
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Speaker 5: No, no, no this, verse, WELL i say that there
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Speaker 5: apparently AND i DON'T i don't know, Again Internet's internet's
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Speaker 5: just gonna fool you WITH. Ai but supposedly there is
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Speaker 5: a screenshot With Pattinson's batman sitting at a diner table
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Speaker 5: With David i'm blinking on his last name who is
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Speaker 5: Playing superman in the new The GUN dc, Universe and
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Speaker 5: so there is some, speculations thank, You there is some
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Speaker 5: speculation whether this is a way to integrate Mat Reeves
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Speaker 5: batman into THE dcu Because.
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Speaker 3: Supergirl didn't quite do.
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Speaker 17: It it didn't quite do, it and there's there's been some
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Speaker 17: discussions as far as you, know Is Warner, brothers especially
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Speaker 17: the New Warner, brothers if this merger does go through with,
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Speaker 17: paramount you, know how much how much more they they
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Speaker 17: going to allow for THE dc properties to to kind
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Speaker 17: of flounder at the box.
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Speaker 3: Office and that's WHY i mentioned mentioned that very like.
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Speaker 4: Whether do you Like Warner brothers can't figure out what
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Speaker 4: they want to?
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Speaker 5: Do Warner brothers is their own worst enemy because this
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Speaker 5: is what they've been, doing this is what they've been
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Speaker 5: doing since, REALLY i, mean you can go back To
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Speaker 5: Christopher reeves run As superman Because superman one and, two
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Speaker 5: both done By Richard, donner are great. Movies and then
52:56
Speaker 5: what happens With superman. Three let's bring In Richard pryor
53:01
Speaker 5: and we're not even gonna talk about the train wreck
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Speaker 5: that Is superman for the question for, peace and then
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Speaker 5: what happens you you go silent Until Tim burton does
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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty Nine, batman huge. Success what does that?
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Speaker 4: Do?
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Speaker 5: Well that gets You Batman. Returns it also gets you
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Speaker 5: the FLASH tv. Series Batman returns gets a little on
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Speaker 5: the dark. Side but you Hired Tim, burton what did
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Speaker 5: you think was gonna?
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Speaker 3: Happen?
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Speaker 5: Exactly so then you decide to Go Joe schumacher because
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Speaker 5: again It's Warner brothers, saying, well we don't like, this
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Speaker 5: so we're gonna move in this.
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Speaker 3: Direction we want to make money off of, this not make.
53:37
Speaker 5: Movies, yes and so you do Two Shchuemacher. Batman's then
53:42
Speaker 5: you shelve, that and then you try and Redo superman
53:45
Speaker 5: And Superman. RETURNS i didn't think it was a bad,
53:49
Speaker 5: movie but you can obviously tell it.
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Speaker 3: Was they didn't know what they were.
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Speaker 1: Doing.
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Speaker 5: Well they tried to Pull Brian singer from THE X men,
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Speaker 5: franchise and it it's supposed to continue The christopher reef.
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Speaker 4: His, story The Christopher reevestar line from like one and,
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Speaker 4: two so you skip three and.
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Speaker 5: Four, yeah and and so that's kind of a. Mess
54:09
Speaker 5: and Then nolan comes in gives you a Great batman,
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Speaker 5: trilogy and then he finds out while Filming Dark knight
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Speaker 5: rises That Zack snyder has already been given permission to
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Speaker 5: Recast batman in his. Universe BUT i Mean nolan had
54:31
Speaker 5: already said he was only doing the three movies and
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Speaker 5: he wrote it as a. Trilogy but, again now you're
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Speaker 5: you've got a New batman that you're already promoting while
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Speaker 5: Current Batman Christian bale is still in. Theater it just
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Speaker 5: has a they.
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Speaker 4: Can't they can't get out of their own, way because
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Speaker 4: that was What Christopher nolan put together for those three
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Speaker 4: was the perfect way to have a shared universe FOR
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Speaker 4: dc with with what he had, done everything's already established With.
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Speaker 4: Batman you don't have to redo anything, there and then
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Speaker 4: you can introduce.
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Speaker 3: It but, like, yeah they're, like, oh we're done With
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Speaker 3: we've got, that we can do.
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Speaker 5: MORE i mean you even brought In nolan as a.
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Speaker 3: Producer, yes but none of it makes.
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Speaker 4: Sense and so again that's why, like, okay, one we've
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Speaker 4: got to wait till twenty eight to see the Next.
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Speaker 3: Batman but, two it is this a part Of James's?
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Speaker 3: Gun is?
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Speaker 2: It?
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Speaker 4: Not?
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Speaker 3: Like what are?
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Speaker 5: So from Everything i've, Read gun does have say over
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Speaker 5: all of THE dc properties that are produced By Warner.
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Speaker 5: Brothers but originally the concept Of Reeve's batman and Before
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Speaker 5: Joker Leafoy, flop those two properties were going to sit outside.
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Speaker 3: Of The Gun.
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Speaker 5: Universe but from my from What i'm kind of understanding
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Speaker 5: is things they.
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Speaker 4: May try to they may try to try to swing
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Speaker 4: that in BECAUSE i, mean BECAUSE i mean they've done
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Speaker 4: that with a few, things Because peacemaker was in The
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Speaker 4: Snyder Yeah verse and has now been brought into to
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Speaker 4: The gun. Universe and if there has been anything and
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Speaker 4: you AND i have talked about this a couple of,
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Speaker 4: times if there has been anything that AND i don't
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Speaker 4: give The mouse credit for anything that it does except
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Speaker 4: for making sure that they just for, overwhelmingly for the most,
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Speaker 4: part they have let THE mcu continue along the path
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Speaker 4: that THE mcu has wanted to do and that has given.
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Speaker 3: Us and there's been.
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Speaker 4: Some ups and, downs but when you've been doing something
56:41
Speaker 4: For dan almost twenty years, now there's gonna be some
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Speaker 4: ups and downs and some ebbs and flows of how
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Speaker 4: everything comes.
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Speaker 3: Out but for the most, part.
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Speaker 4: THE mcu has had a path and they have stuck
56:52
Speaker 4: to that. Path and just because a movie or sometimes
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Speaker 4: two or three didn't do. Well they or an entire
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Speaker 4: face thank. You they didn't just derail it all and
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Speaker 4: say we're starting.
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Speaker 5: OVER i mean yes and, no BUT i mean doomsday
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Speaker 5: is supposed to kind of be a hard reset to
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Speaker 5: clean up the reason and.
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Speaker 3: We and we can get on. This oh, yeah we
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Speaker 3: gotta go holy.
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Speaker 5: Couch, YEAH i know you.
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Speaker 3: Point i'm, like what are you talking. About we're getting
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Speaker 3: into this. Tomorrow, now we got more than. Now we Got,
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Speaker 3: Thursday chip i Or.
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