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One Off #2 - Spacehog's The Hogyssey · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  Sometimes there isn't necessarily a band to talk
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  about. Sometimes there isn't
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  necessarily a list to create. Sometimes we just get together
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  to talk about a record. We call that one off because it
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  is one off. And I mean it.
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  It's a little different this time, Anderson.
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  We're talking. We will be talking about Space
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  Hogs, the Hoggsey and we'll get into the why, you know, in a in
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  a few minutes. But like what?
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  What brings your attention to, I mean, I think I kind of already
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  know the answer, but let's get in the weeds on it a little bit
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  at least. What?
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  What brings your attention to Space Hog specifically?
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  Well, I love space hog Resident Alien was required listening in
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  95 and 96. This album came out, oh, I want
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  to say 2001, and this album is beautiful, it's fantastic.
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  But because it was 2001, in the meantime was, you know, already
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  tired on the radio and there really wasn't follow-ups.
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  This one is largely forgotten, and it deserves better.
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  So when, when this idea gets posited, Brian, what makes you
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  jump on to say, yeah, sure, I'll, I'll cover this one, one
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  random space hog record. Yeah, I mean, like any
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  opportunity I get talk about a 90s band, you know, I, I'll,
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  I'll take any chance I can to talk about like like a 90s band,
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  especially like one that people perceive.
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  Well, I guess it is like a one hit wonder, but this was like
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  definitely like one that I I think should have been like
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  talked about more, you know, like the band in general because
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  like they did so much more than just like the one song that
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  everybody knows. To that point, I was thinking
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  about this like when I hit play on the record and and again,
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  we'll we'll get into like the weeds on the record and thinking
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  back to like the the Spacehawk episode, like none of the songs
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  not on resident alien stuck out and like not in a bad way.
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  Just like you have the the looming in in the meantime over
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  your heads in like both the best and worst ways possible.
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  I could argue that In the meantime is one of the best
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  songs ever written, period, end of story.
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  It is for sure one of the best 90s songs, period, end of story.
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  But like it is this monumental thing that like breaks out and
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  is like a world beater and you know, to Anderson's point is
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  kind of tired by the time the Hogasy comes out, but like also
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  not tired because it's timeless. And I think that is kind of the
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  entire point of of space hog and coming back to this record,
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  they're they really are a timeless band.
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  And I, I think that's the one thing again, positive for in the
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  meantime, is it it is timeless. And when you listen to resident
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  alien, it is timeless. Like that is what works about
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  space hog is you can go back to them at any point and pick up
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  where you left off. And I think again, hammering
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  Anderson's point home, the if in the Meantime doesn't get played
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  out. Space hog is like this whole
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  other creature because, you know, almost literally.
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  But like they, they get their just desserts.
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  But let's let's like start centering in on on the Haggisi.
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  So obviously it must not have been available on Spotify.
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  I didn't really research it, but we didn't include it in our our
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  episode, Anderson. That's why you decided to to
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  bring it to the table today. So let's get in the weeds a
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  little bit. Let's talk about the Haggisi
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  specifically. Yeah, 'cause this was a central
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  space hog, and you're right, Spotify didn't have it when you
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  guys did it in 2019. But anybody who's listening, go
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  back and hear that episode because you guys did fantastic.
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  Johnny was on there, our good friend Peter was on there, and
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  Justin sings every song from Resident Alien.
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  It's beautiful of. Course I.
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  Did. You did, you did.
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  And your English accent was interesting.
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  OK, how you see specifically I'm going to link these guys to
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  Stone Temple Pilots. I feel like recording wise, they
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  took a similar path where Resident Alien equates with
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  Purple obviously is going to be #4 where they they kind of go
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  back to what they did really well on their first album.
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  In between was the Chinese album that was more of a concept.
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  It was actually. It was supposed to be a
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  soundtrack, and it just never materialized.
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  That tracks so hard because yeah, I don't want to.
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  I don't want normally I would, you know, kind of go in an order
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  here, but because you said that like I, I need to, I need to get
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  this thought out into the ether. The first thing I thought when
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  I'm I'm listening to to the Haggisi is that it feels a lot
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  more in line with what resident alien was like it, it lacks the
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  in the meantime of it all, but like in the best way possible.
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  Like it doesn't have that, that one thing that's kind of
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  crushing the rest of the record. Like it's, it's a lot more even
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  keeled and in again, like to me, that makes the entire thing
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  shine a whole lot better that that tracks perfectly.
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  It's it is much more in line with what they did on their
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  first record. Yeah.
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  And I mean they don't, the ballads on how you see don't
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  measure up as well, I don't think.
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  I mean, the first one had Zeros and it had Star Side and
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  Shipwrecked. Those are all fantastic songs.
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  The ballad Fear aren't quite up to that level.
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  They're still really good, but they're not fantastic.
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  But the actual the other songs like the bangers, they all hit.
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  They all hit hard. They RIP.
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  Yeah. I mean, if you guys would have
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  done a 20, you would have had five to seven from the Hoggsey
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  on that list and your top ten would have been a lot harder to
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  do. For sure.
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  So I guess let's talk about like first impressions, Brian, like
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  when you hit play on on the record, like does this sit in
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  what you would think about Space Hog or does this change your
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  opinion on them? No, this definitely yeah, it
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  definitely it it brought me back to like 95 like like I I
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  listened to like the first record and, you know, I don't, I
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  don't think I ever went really past that.
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  No, this so I missed a lot of that stuff in the middle, but
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  this this felt like picking up where they left off.
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  Like you guys said, like it was just like, OK, this is like this
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  is a continuation. I had to, you know, check to see
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  like, like what there were for records in between the two.
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  But yeah, it it pretty much like like from from from go.
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  I was like, Oh yeah, this is, this is like right in my, this
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  is right in my zone. I wish I do wait, like, OK, what
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  I'm going to do real quick. We're not, this isn't an attempt
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  to mitigate or re litigate or or anything our our previous list.
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  But I do kind of want to 'cause I went and, like, looked at it
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  and kind of quickly, quickly looked at our, our list from the
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  episode. And man, of course, I just had
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  it up. And like, 'cause we skipped
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  Haggisi and went right to as it is on Earth, I think was the
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  name of it. The the 23rd, yeah.
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  And that one came out like 13 years later.
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  Yeah, I'm, I had it up and of course it's gone now.
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  So now this isn't as flawless. Here I listened to it earlier
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  today and I don't remember either.
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  Well, you know, that's kind of The thing is like again, the
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  weight of of an of of an In the meantime, an undeniable song.
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  OK, so here we go. Here's the 10 from it.
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  In the meantime, Mungo City, I wish you well.
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  Glad to know space is the place. Captain Freeman, carry on
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  Gluttony. Cruel to be kind Zeros.
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  I mean, I think you look at those resident alien songs, I
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  think those are all safe. Those those all stay there.
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  And then it kind of becomes I don't think there's as much from
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  the Chinese album that that remains like, because it looks
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  like we've got 3 from that I and then we've got 3 from as it is
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  on Earth. I mean, it's a really balanced
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  list, but I think, I think easily you get 2 to 3 songs from
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  Haggisi. And again, it kind of changes
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  the entire list, which, which to your point, what you said in the
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  chat was you didn't want to re litigate the list because this
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  was a Peter list. So that that's why we're not re
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  litigating. That's why we're not, you know,
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  advocating for, for changing our original list because it also
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  becomes extremely hard at that point.
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  Yeah, yeah. And like, I don't know, best
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  thing with the Peter List feels sacrilegious to me.
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  I just I can't do it. I get it.
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  I get it. So all right, let's talk about
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  like songs specifically. We're not, we're not making a
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  list here, but what we decided to do was grab 4 song or five
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  songs rather that if we were to build an EP that it, this is
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  what it would look like for us. So we're not going to build a
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  list, but we are going to compare notes essentially.
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  So out of curiosity Anderson, what were your 5 songs?
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  OK, the five I was going to go with Jupiter's moon, the lead
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  off. This is America, I want to live.
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  A real waste of food and at least I got laid.
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  OK. All right.
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  So, yeah, same question to you, Brian.
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  OK, I I I pretty much agree this the album starts out with
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  bangers, Joopers, Moon, This is America.
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  I want to Live, which I have is like my favorite song off the
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  record, a real waste of food. And then I went with, yeah, at
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  least, at least I got laid all. Right.
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  So yeah. Well, you know, three of those
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  are like across the board unanimous because I had this is
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  America I want to live earthquake and it is and at
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  least I got laid. So at least I got laid would
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  have been unanimous. This is America would have been
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  unanimous and I want to live would have been unanimous.
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  And then we would have been talking about, I'll say this
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  like I had Jupiter's moon until pretty late.
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  I I listened to the album before we went on and listened like a
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  real waste of food. Like jumped out at me.
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  Like I, I could have made really the only things that were never
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  in the conversation for me were dancing on my own, which is
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  fine. It just it, it didn't jump out
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  enough. Same with the Strange Dream.
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  Well, the Hogasy didn't because, yeah, it is basically just a a
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  rock version of, you know, the Odyssey.
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  So like that was that never had a chance.
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  But everything other than that, like kind of everything was in
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  play. This is just a really good
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  record. And if you were in, honestly, if
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  you're not into space Hog, if for whatever reason in the
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  meantime tired you out, just go to listen to this because it
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  doesn't, it doesn't have the weight of that.
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  I think to your point, Brian, I think I want to Live is the
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  closest to that, but because you've.
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  Never. Absolutely.
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  Right, like it's it's so good, it has breakout hit potential,
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  but like probably not the same the same like weight the same
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  level like. Well, not in 2001.
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  Also. Yes, no, I mean, if it would
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  have been a follow up to in the meantime, we'd be having a
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  different conversation, but 2001 wouldn't.
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  Go anywhere. Yeah, Space Hog just came kind
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  of late. I mean, if Resident Alien came
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  out in 93 and this came out in 95, it would be a much bigger
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  band. But a lot of their music just
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  came a little too late. Well, there you go.
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  But but to that, to that it is truly great and you should go
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  listen to the Hogasy. And fellas, I appreciate your
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  time today. Yeah, yeah.
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  Thank you. And and it is was my number six
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  or seven. So I mean, we, we were all
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  pretty close. Yeah, yeah, I mean, Jupiter's
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  moon is a great lead off earthquake is clearly the only
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  one that didn't get any extra love.
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  Like, it feels like we were all pretty much in agreement on on
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  everything else. So.
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  All right, well, we will see you all tomorrow.
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  Bye.