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Ghostly Encounters in Montana: A Haunting in Great Falls · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  So one of the permanent exhibits is self-taught artist Lee Steen's tree people.
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  And it is 234 sculptures of sort of people made from cottonwood branches and other found materials.
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  Are you seeing it? Uh-huh. Do you love it?
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  I have some thoughts and feelings.
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  You know how I feel about dolls.
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  Yes, but there's sticks. There's stick figure people.
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  Hi, Caitlyn. Hi, Cassie. Hi, creepy people. Hello.
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  If you're new to our creepy corner of the world, this is PNW Haunts and Homicides, where we chat about true crime,
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  the paranormal and all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest. She went for it.
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  I'm feeling it. It just came out of me. It's not cool.
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  It's just like coming out of your pores, which is I have to say better than being sweaty and or,
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  you know, mucusy, which has been a lot of my recent experience.
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  Or maybe, I know. This is so weird. We don't record remotely very much, but here we are.
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  You know what we do do a lot though? Do do.
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  We also do a Tarot reading at the end of every episode. I thought you were going to say get sick.
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  You usually get sick a lot. I typically don't.
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  For those of you that maybe don't know, aren't keeping track of my wellness.
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  Already, this is my first bout with COVID. I gotta say zero out of 10.
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  Is it really your first? Yeah. As far as I know. As far as I know.
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  Okay, that makes a lot more sense. I don't know why I thought you would have had at least one.
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  And I'm over here like, this is my fifth time. I got this. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'm, I guess.
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  I guess being vaccinated, I sort of thought, oh, okay, you know, obviously I don't want to get COVID.
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  It's less than ideal. But I figured that, you know, how bad could it be, right? Because,
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  you know, I'm vaccinated. And I do think I'm shy. A single booster, which now really feels like a
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  gigantic oversight. But so I'm going to, I'm going to get that under my belt. I need to look into
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  that. I think this situation has made that abundantly clear for me. Everyone look into that and get
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  yourself safe and vaccinated if you can. Yeah. Yeah. Because yeah, this has been quite, quite the
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  debacle. I kind of can't believe how sick I've been. So I know. It's so sad. But you guys didn't really
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  get to miss us too much because we did have an episode that you did with the old crime that we
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  posted. So they got to me you. Yeah, which ironic because I know definitely the one who could not
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  record when we very desperately needed to. But so anyway, we're talking about this terror reading
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  we do at the end of every episode. We just do it for a little bit of deeper insight into our topic
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  for the day, which happens to be my topic. We all know what that means. Okay. I don't know if anybody
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  could tell by my shirt. It's not just a phase and it's not. And it has a jackaland on it and this
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  is my new favorite shirt. I love it. This is I think my new favorite shirt. Oh, I love that. I was
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  torn. I was like, do I wear one of our new merch shirts that we made that we wore for the festival or
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  do I go spooky? Well, and I have a sweatshirt and I think three tank tops that CJ from Beyond the Rainbow
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  gave me and I was going to wear one of those tank tops. It's finally to the part of the year where
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  now the recording studio will not be like a boiler room. It's going to be cooler. So I thought,
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  whoa, I would probably get cold if I wore a tank top. It's weird that you just said boiler room.
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  Well, okay. Okay. So that's I don't know if I've ever heard you have you said that before? Have you
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  like said that before about the pod room or things being hot? I don't know that I ever have. Actually,
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  yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm kind of freaked out now. Is that something to do with the story or maybe
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  are you just having a deja vu? I guess we'll see. Okay, great. So we'll talk more about the true crime
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  fest Northwest. You did. Yeah. We'll talk a little bit more about it at the end of the episode.
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  Yes. Because we had fun. We did have fun. But let's get into my episode. I'm so excited.
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  Obviously, I'm super excited for fall. So naturally, I was looking at articles about fall foliage.
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  Fall foliage. Because I, you know, I just I want to see where the good fall foliage is in the PNW.
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  And I was looking for maybe some inspiration on an episode. And I kind of found it. Oh, okay.
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  What you found? Well, I will tell you. So one of the states on the list was Montana. And this was
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  a Pacific Northwest article. So I was like, well, I guess I never really thought of Montana as
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  Pacific Northwest. But if this article says it is, yeah, we're talking about it. And I don't
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  have I've never done an episode in Montana before that I know of. I don't think you have. I think
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  I've had a couple of cases that touched on areas of Montana. But yeah, I don't know. I kind of
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  I kind of count it. But yeah, right. You know, this article did. So yeah, I also have family that
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  lives in Montana. So maybe that's why I'm like, hey, how's the foliage?
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  Some fall foliage out there. Yeah. Yeah. Send us photos of your foliage.
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  Well, so now that I am blessed, hashtag blessed with the knowledge that Montana is part of the Pacific
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  Northwest. I always feel like fall is a new year. So new year, new me. We're going to be visiting
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  Montana more. I'm going to make it a resolution. Oh, I like it. Montana. Watch out. I feel like there's
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  got to be so much good, like untouched. I don't know, just spooky stuff, stories and content. And
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  so hopefully some people will give us some hot tips on it. Yeah, give us suggestions.
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  Yeah. If you're from Montana, write us a little story. You can email us at pnwhauntsandhomicides@gmail.com.
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  And we will read it on a creepy people chronicles. We will out loud.
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  If you guys don't know what we're referencing, we used to say that. Do we not need more?
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  We don't have an outro anymore that we say. Yeah. I guess I forgot. Yeah. We're quite forgetful
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  and also very busy and also semi lazy. Yeah, all of those things are true.
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  Oh, true. We just tried to throw in the promos here and there's, you know, so you don't.
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  So you don't even notice that they're happening. Yeah. Infiltrating your brain.
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  Woo, there was a promo. I have a candle that I'm going to light because it smells like
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  fall. It's kitchen spice. Oh, sitting right now. This is Jessica's candle. Thank you, Jessica,
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  for letting me use your candle in your house. Oh, it just smells so fall. Do it.
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  According to tripsavvy.com's article, best places to see fall color in the Pacific Northwest.
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  Quote. Montana. Best viewed while driving through national parks and forests from late September
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  through mid-October. The color is very depending on elevation and you'll need to have a car equipped
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  with four-wheel drive to access some roads. Yeah. Yeah. I would say all of that is there.
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  Which, you know, I don't know a lot about Montana. So I've spent a fair bit of time there
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  driving through Montana, the neighboring states to Montana.
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  Nice. National parks. So we spent all summer
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  adventuring around the PNW and the wilderness and I felt like we've just had enough of the outdoors,
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  don't you? I don't know. I unpopular opinion in our genres, but I'm like, I love the outdoors.
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  I mean, did you love my outdoors like the caves and the in the haunted mountain tops and
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  what was the other one? I don't remember. I know. Those of the trees. Okay, the trees were cool.
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  Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe I like the outdoors. Just I don't maybe not the version that you've
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  been focused on. I'm just ready. I'm ready to get back indoors and you know, it's back to school.
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  Let's go back to school, y'all. We're in doorsy kids overall. Did anyone else just have like a
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  like a popcorn reading panic attack? I said, let's go back to school. Oh god. Because I definitely did.
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  I don't mind reading. I just don't like the popcorn part of it. You know what I mean? We've talked about
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  it before. It's anxiety. I can't focus on what's being read because I'm like, oh, I gotta be called.
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  And I am not good at reading things, you know, that I didn't write myself. So I'm not even that good
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  at reading things that I did write myself. Honestly, I think it's obviously just a play to make sure
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  that you're paying attention. And I don't I think it has. It doesn't want to be the first. Yeah. Yeah.
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  For certain, for certain members of society, I might have the opposite of that. Most.
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  Well, we're going to go all the way back to 1890 when four young ladies who had finished grammar
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  school asked for more advanced public schooling in Great Falls, Montana. Really? Yes. In Great Falls? Yes. Do
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  you know Great Falls? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've never heard of it. Really? I don't know anything about
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  Montana. Oh, that's a later. I will kind of explore. Yeah. You're like, I literally don't know anything
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  about it. I don't know nothing. I did have to look it up. grammar school is from about 10 to 14
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  years old. So what they're asking for is a high school, basically. Okay. Yeah. That seems fair.
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  I wouldn't want to ask for more school, but like I get it back in the day. You're like, you need
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  the knowledge, you know? Okay. Well, here's the thing, especially in like rural Midwest, which
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  is so cool. I think Montana technically is kind of considered part of the Midwest. No, it's
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  pretty unboundary. It is what we say it is. And when we say it is, if you were all through your
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  schooling and everything, think about it like yeah, in your fort dame, like basically it was like,
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  okay, you're probably going to be like married off. Yeah. So I'd be like, yeah, I think I want to go
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  to high school. That is very true. I think I want to go to high school. Maybe college. Maybe I'll be a
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  doctor. So that same year after asking for a high school, they were shacked up with some middle
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  schoolers in the same building. They weren't in the same classes, but they were in the same building.
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  So they were getting their high school classes, but just in a middle school building. Okay. When you say
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  shacked up, that is very different. Connotation to me. Because we just talked about being married,
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  too. I guess. I don't know why I word it like that. Who knows? I love it. There was no nasty shenanigans.
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  Okay. Get your minds out of the dang gutter. Yeah. Okay. Okay. They did have to share a building for
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  a little while because even in their second year of officially being a high school without their
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  own building, they only had 23 students. So a little hard to probably justify building an entire
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  building for that small amount of children. Yeah. That's fair. Okay. Remind me what year is this? 1890.
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  Okay. Yeah. That tracks. Yes. I don't think that the high school classes got a lot bigger for quite a
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  while. They did. They did. I'll tell you about it. Okay. For whatever reason, I don't know if more
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  people were deciding to go to school or if more people were moving to that town in particular,
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  but they quickly realized that they needed more space for all of these knowledge seeking teens.
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  Finally, after the long awaited arrival of slate blackboards, the first high school building in
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  Great Falls, Montana was dedicated in 1896. And it had capacity for 500 students, which is like,
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  that's a lot. Yeah. That would be. But that's like 500 for like all four years or more years of high school.
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  Yeah. So I feel like if there's like an even amount, it would be like 125 or so per class. Yeah.
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  If I can can't really do math that well, but that's something. Yeah. No, that's that's right. Yeah.
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  I'm guessing if we're talking about 40, if we're talking about four years and 500 kids, that that's
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  right. But that's still like, but bigger than 23, you know, that's, that's a lot bigger. It is a lot bigger.
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  I wouldn't say not a lot in a big time. Yeah. The school though is like pretty fucking big.
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  Also, fun fact, we stopped using slate for blackboards in the 60s. Oh, interesting. Great Balls
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  is about 90 miles northeast of Helena, which is the capital, which is the only town in Montana that I knew.
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  So it's like that's a lazy. So I usually compare it to like how far things are from like Portland or
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  Seattle, like big cities. And I was like, what's a big fucking city on Montana? Like I literally couldn't
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  even think of like a big city. So I was like, I'm just the capital. I don't know. Oh god. What tell me a big city?
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  Well, I don't know how I don't know that it's big by like the standards of like Portland or Seattle,
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  but there's like Calis Bell. Calis Bell is really well known. It's really, it's a popular place. It's
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  like absolutely booming. It's like, I would like in it to
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  bend here in Oregon. It's a lot like that. It's, it's still like a rural community, but like it's,
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  it's growing. It's very expensive to live there now. A lot of celebrities have their vacation homes.
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  And then I think Bozeman is like the college town. Bozeman. That's that sort of that one rings a bell,
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  I think, because of Big Bang Theory. All right. But with it, Sheldon, he went to Bozeman,
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  Montana. It's something I don't, that doesn't sound right to me, but I don't know. I don't know why this,
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  it happened. Okay. Someone look it up and tell me it happened. I don't remember that at all.
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  Sheldon went to Bozeman, Montana. I believe you. I just, I don't remember that at all. I feel like I
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  would remember that, but I don't know why. I don't, I don't even know if I'm right, but it's in there,
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  and it came out of my mouth also. That's what's happening. And then there's Glendive, which I don't
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  think is a big city, but gosh, yeah, no, I don't know. Great falls. Now I'm learning more about on
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  the places. This is a place that like the high school, this is a learning place. Okay. It is. Yeah.
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  You should watch Yellowstone. Oh, you've told me that before. I do need to. It's on the list.
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  The Missouri River runs right through the town, and it's called the electric city because a lot of
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  dams and power plants are there. Oh, and you know, my first thought. Do they have dam mermaids there?
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  I did not know your first thought. How did you not read my mermaid mind? You know, honestly,
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  I feel like I blame the COVID. You should. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to send you pictures. Oh,
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  okay. Kind of look at the top ones. Don't scroll too far down, but I want to do to see the pretty,
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  pretty building. The high school is built, and it's called Great Falls or Central High School. It was
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  called kind of both in some of the articles. And it occupied the building from 1896 to 1930. And it was
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  topped with a four-faced clock tower that was almost as tall as the actual building. So as you
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  can see in this first picture, how tall this fucking clock tower is. Pretty tall. Yeah. It's huge. Huge.
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  But it sadly had to be removed in 1916 because she was too thick. Oh, no. The building was not structurally
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  able to handle all of that. Oh, boy. Yeah. It's kind of funny because I read that they put such a huge
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  clock tower on the building to emphasize to students how important it was to spend their time wisely.
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  Oh, interesting. It's just like a big symbol of spending your time wisely, I guess, which
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  what a better example of how to invest your time wisely than to build a giant clock tower. By the way,
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  people actually knew probably wouldn't hold up and then have to tear it down 20 years later.
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  Way to go, guys. The irony. Yeah. Okay. Top-notch role models here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No notes.
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  It is kind of interesting to I another fact that I read. It was that to compact the backfill
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  around the foundation, a hundred sheep were shepherded a hundred times around the building.
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  Okay. Doesn't that funny? I mean, it's just kind of like what do you have a lot of in Montana? I'm assuming
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  livestock. Yeah. That's like, I guess I never really thought of it. Like if you're putting like
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  loose dirt back in like, yeah, you'd want to pack it down so things don't sink. Like how would you do
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  that? A hundred sheep, a hundred times. Yeah. That's really funny. I don't know that that's
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  how this whole thing played out. I don't know that that's like a resounding endorsement for that method.
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  But the building is fine. The clock tower was just too heavy. It didn't have anything to do with
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  the foundation. Okay. The foundation solid. We're good together. Sheep did their work.
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  Okay. Yeah. I mean, hey, the house don't fall if the bones are good.
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  Hayes for horses. Here I am trying to incorporate some country, you know, like a modern country song lyric
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  into this our repertoire and your life. Did it. Hayes for horses. I'm like, wow. I feel like I'm
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  maybe I'm trying to hard. No, it's perfect. It worked out perfectly. In 1913 an addition was built and
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  the boiler room had to be moved closer to the new building. Okay. They supposedly turn the old
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  boiler room into a pool. A pool. Yeah. Because why not? It's a big empty space. Oh, can you guess where
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  the old boiler room was located in the building? In the basement. It was in the basement. Yeah.
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  And usually in the basement. A like and think of is like Pennywise down there in the basement. Like,
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  do you want to float? Oh, and I'm fully ready for Halloween. I don't I don't know how I feel about
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  a pool in the basement. I'm going to be honest. In your genre, in my genre,
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  I can't think of a single example where that plays out. Like, yeah, I don't know. Positively.
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  A lot of the only place you could put it. A lot of bad vibes and murder in basement pools.
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  Basement pools. Murder basement pools. I see. Not a fan. Okay. So we've got like kind of the giggles out
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  because it's actually not a very funny situation because although there are no official reports of this,
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  there is a legend of a student tragically drowning in the pool. No. I know. That's why you don't put
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  them in the basement. Yeah. Like, who's keeping an eye out down there? You know, there's no life guard
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  on duty in the basement. No, unless it's Pennywise. That would be the best
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  fucking life guard. Like, prank to do on Halloween is just dress like Pennywise and be the life guard.
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  Okay. Now I want to be a life guard. I'm not very good at swimming. I was going to say, I didn't,
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  hmm, huh. Interesting. Okay. That's a choice. Even though there's no official reports of this,
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  even alumni have come forward talking about how this did happen. Ooh. Like, Ronna says in a
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  greatfallstribune.com article quote, as a ninth grader in art class, my friend and I were sent to the
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  abandoned swimming pool. Oh, it's now it's abandoned. What? Like, is someone pass away in it?
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  Oh, that's right. It's a long pass away in it. I can't remember what I wrote you guys. It's been a
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  while. Oh, I hate this. So they were sent to the abandoned swimming pool in the old building
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  because they were in the annex. Oh, yeah. The new part of the school.
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  To paint on very large canvases. So that makes sense so they don't get the classroom's messy.
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  Sure. We had to climb down a rickety wooden ladder to reach the bottom of the pool. It was rumored
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  to be haunted by the drowning of a student. Okay. The pool wasn't used since 1938 when my data
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  attended the school. So I assume maybe the student like passed away in like 1938. Okay. Because like,
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  how would you use the pool after that? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like 1938 things are about to get
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  pretty wild in the world. I feel like the last thing people were worried about was some freaking pool.
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  It's like right before the start of World War II. Oh, I was just thinking like that. I mean,
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  someone died in there. I hope that he didn't die in like 1920 and they used it for another 18 years,
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  you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I mean, I think, you know, people die in a lot of places.
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  People die in hospitals. That doesn't mean we board them up. But you're supposed to die in a house.
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  The kid is not supposed to die in a school pool. So I don't know. I just felt like, I just, I hope
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  that they didn't keep using it after one someone passed away in the pool. That's just, if it's even true,
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  you know, who knows? There wasn't any reports of hauntings that people could specifically say,
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  was this boy who passed away? But some people say they hear strange sounds coming from the basement.
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  Because I'm neat. But I'm also pretty sure they put the boiler room back in there. So maybe it's just
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  the boiler room making weird sounds again. I just feel like maybe, maybe, maybe we just,
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  maybe we just board up the whole basement like that whole area. I don't know. But they need the boiler room.
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  Do they? They need to go where their tank tops down into the boiler room.
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  It's so funny. You said that earlier. It just like blows my mind.
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  Yeah. I, I'm not really sure what to say about that. That's, that actually really kind of creeps me out.
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  Because it's not something that I, I don't think I've ever heard you say that. But, no, I mean,
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  there literally has been a bar in Portland named the boiler room. And I still don't think it's even a
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  phrase that I've said more than a handful of times. And I feel like you would have said like a sauna
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  or something else. Yes. Yes. We are. Okay. Moving on. We were beginning up my boiler room vibes.
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  Yeah. Up here at least. There's more about this. Not the boiler room specifically with the annex.
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  That will get to at the end. Okay. The school changes to Paris Gibson Junior High School from 1930 to
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  1975. And then in 1977, it became the Paris Gibson Square Museum of Art, known as the Square.
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  The Square. And it remains as the square to this day, the Art Museum. Okay. And it is on the national
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  register of historic places. Okay. Which a lot of places I talk about are because they're old and
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  haunted. No. They have over a thousand pieces in their permanent art collection and rotating
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  exhibitions featuring Northwest Regional Contemporary Art, American Indian Contemporary Art,
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  and American Self-Taught Art. That's very cool. It is super cool. Yeah. And we're going to learn a
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  little bit more about some of the self-taught art too in a second. Oh. Should I be scared? Well, I really,
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  I really love it. I think it's really cool. I don't think it's scary at all. But you know, we'll see.
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  So this is a quote from the museum website. The museum provides a variety of cultural,
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  educational, artistic, and cross-disciplinary enrichment opportunities for both children and adults.
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  They include 20 to 25 unique art exhibitions per year. School tours with hands-on art activities,
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  workshops and classes for all ages abilities, outreach programs for underserved populations,
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  our traveling museum outreach program, a fully developed art lesson on American Indian Contemporary
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  Art brings art education to rural schools and organizations free of charge. So I just think
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  they do a lot of really good work in their community involving art. Yeah. I feel like this feels
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  maybe different than hopscotch though. Hopscotch. Yeah, you're right. Oh, yes. That's like the immersive
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  art museum art experience. Yeah. You guys, we have something really exciting to share with you.
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  Let's hear a few words from our new pod besties.
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  Can you hear me? Good to have you back with us. I hope you don't mind that I am recording
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  for investigative notes. It's a wax cylinder. The only thing we found that can pick up the voices of
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  people in your condition. My name is Owen von Sid. I am a reclamer. Do you know what that means? No.
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  Well, I am sorry to inform you that you didn't make it. Please try to remain calm. The worst is over.
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  Nothing can hurt you, not ever again. But the thing that did this to you, it is still out there.
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  That is what we do. I wake unfortunate souls, such as yourself. Hear their stories. Then my associates
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  and I see to it that whoever or whatever did this to you is dealt with. Now let's begin. When you are
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  ready, tell me how did you die? Ghost Wax is an anthology horror podcast from far and tall
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  Check them out, creepy people. Their info is in our show notes.
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  So we are going to talk about one of the exhibitions. It's one of the permanent art collections that
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  they have. It's one of my favorite things. I really need to go to Montana and see this because it's
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  so cool. Okay, twist what? So one of the permanent exhibits is self-taught artist Lee Stien's
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  Tree People. And it is 234 sculptures of sort of people made from cottonwood branches and other
• 30:33
  found materials. Are you seeing it? Uh huh. Do you love it? I have some thoughts and feelings.
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  You know how I feel about dolls. Yes. But there are sticks. There are stick figure people.
• 30:52
  I can't help but feel that these are akin to creepy dolls. These remind me of the doll that
• 31:03
  we made a couple of different little clips of you. It was the one that talked from Ghost of Summer.
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  Yeah, because the face was kind of like slightly weird and falling off. These are like he just,
• 31:20
  what he did was look at the branch and like he could kind of already see like the face in it and he
• 31:25
  just put things on it to kind of like bring out what he already saw in the branch. Yeah, no, I mean,
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  in that respect, um, totally see that and um, very gifted and um, super art, art stuff. Um,
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  but they're not normal faces. They're, uh, they're wonky. I wonky feel uncomfortable.
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  And I would not want to be left alone with them. That's, you're not the only one who thinks that.
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  But I would love to be in there. I think they're so freaking cool. They're very cool. Um, again,
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  just don't want to be left alone with them. Also, if anyone wants to learn more about Lee, I will
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  have a link for you in the sources. It's super interesting to know how all of this came to be.
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  One more quick thing I just wanted to include about him. He had a twin brother named Dee. Stop it. They were
• 32:22
  Lee and Dee. I'm just the cutest fucking thing. Lee and Dee Steen. Yes. I know. I love it.
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  I just want to bite their faces off.
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  I was watching um, a clip of their small town news segment on the museum during spooky season.
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  And they were saying that people either love this room or get super creeped out by it, which I could see.
• 32:53
  Yeah. But when mediums come through, they do report very positive feelings in the room and in the
• 33:00
  building. Interesting. Okay. They were doing the segment because they were having ghost hunts
• 33:06
  hunts USA come and do an investigation there. Really? Yeah. At the museum. At the museum. I think
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  okay. Like a couple of ghost paranormal investigators come through. Okay.
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  When they were doing their kind of initial walkthrough, they reported feeling a lot of energy
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  specifically in the tree people room and they felt that Lee Steen's Spirit was there. Not like,
• 33:32
  not like his ghost was haunting it, but like they could feel the spirit of him like through
• 33:37
  the art all around the room, I think. Oh. Okay. I'm like, uh, sure, sure, sure. Not his ghost.
• 33:44
  His ghost is not there. I was like, is he no longer with us? He is no longer with us.
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  Him and Dee have passed a while back. Okay. This is very, this is old. I didn't like a bunch of
• 33:56
  that information in there because it's not about that. But if you want to know more, go to my link.
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  Okay. I think those like the 70s, they adopted these. Oh, okay. These tree people. So they're old
• 34:11
  creepy. Yeah. And he was already kind of old. ghost hunts USA, actually, their site is shut down. So
• 34:17
  I don't know if they probably don't run anything anymore. Maybe they're just, they're dunzy. Dunzo.
• 34:23
  So I couldn't dunzy. I like it. I was say, I was about to say dunzo. And I was like, don't
• 34:28
  fucking do it. That's the stupidest thing. Don't say it. And so I chose dunzy. Dunzy. And I think it's better.
• 34:34
  Okay. I'm standing by it. All right. I mean, it's okay to be wrong. So I went to their website to look
• 34:41
  to see if they had posted any evidence. But obviously I couldn't find any. I did find in another
• 34:47
  article that another team of paranormal investigators went through and they got an EVP of what sounded
• 34:53
  like a young boy telling them to get out. Oh, great. Okay. Bye. You're like, fine. That's fine. I'll go.
• 35:00
  I don't really have any issue with that. So I'll just leave. So I don't know if that
• 35:06
  was talking about the ghost in USA team or a different team. I'm not really sure. It was just
• 35:12
  the article did not specify, unfortunately. Wow. Some of the paranormal happenings that visitors
• 35:18
  and staff have reported are hearing children playing, talking and even singing in the building.
• 35:26
  Which is like, it was a school. So of course, you hear children. One of the reports is of
• 35:33
  he's jangling, which is super specific. Yeah. That's a really specific sound. I wish I had my key
• 35:39
  sitting next to me. So I can make it all the way over there. I was going to say, I don't even,
• 35:42
  I don't have mine near me either. But it is interesting because there is a mischievous spirit.
• 35:50
  Some people like to call Timmy. Timmy steals people's keys. Okay. And he also messes with the elevator.
• 36:00
  No. So he steals people's keys. But and then people hear like, he's jangling around. Is that
• 36:06
  just Timmy? Like walking around with the stolen key? Okay. Listen to me. Some of us already have
• 36:12
  all 80 of the HDs. And we don't need your help losing our keys. Okay. And don't fuck around with
• 36:20
  elevators. That is not okay. Don't play the elevator game. What the fuck is an elevator game?
• 36:27
  You don't know about the elevator game. Do I want to know about the elevator game? We got to educate
• 36:33
  Caitlyn someday on the elevator game. What is that? Don't play it. Okay. Not good. Okay. I'll, I do
• 36:42
  actually know a way to relate it to you. It's um, um, Alisa Lam. That's what they, they were thinking
• 36:49
  she was playing the elevator game and got lost in like another dimension. It's like one of the theories.
• 36:54
  So I don't know if you've like listened to a podcast episode on this. Yes. I, yeah. I'm super familiar
• 37:00
  with the Alisa Lam case. I feel like now that you mention it. I remember hearing that theory. I
• 37:07
  still don't understand. It's it, yeah, it's a game and you, it's a game that's dumb and
• 37:14
  there's no winning in it. So why would you play hit? You guys play stupid games,
• 37:21
  wins, stupid prizes. Yeah. Like the death prize. I'm glad I could, I could relate that to
• 37:28
  something that you would understand too. Okay. Cool. Yeah. Just tie it back to murder. I'm like,
• 37:34
  wait, true crime. She'll know. You're like, oh, you know this one, right? As a matter of fact, I do.
• 37:41
  Okay. So this is something weird happening to me. So do you remember, you remember Timmy?
• 37:46
  Yeah. Timmy. Timmy. It's all my shit list if I'm being honest. Our buddy Timmy, who steals keys.
• 37:54
  Anyway. So this is kind of an aside from the episode. I'm sitting here typing about Timmy and I'm
• 37:59
  have Hot Ones on in the background, you know, for background noise. Of course. And Kid Cudi is on
• 38:05
  there and he literally just says Timmy. What? He says the word Timmy as I'm fucking typing about Timmy.
• 38:13
  And I was like, what the fuck? Why? What is happening? So he's talking about Timothée Chalamet, which
• 38:19
  actually I learned it's Timothée Chalamet. But anyway, he was talking about him and called him Timmy.
• 38:27
  But I was like, what? How is he like things that are happening on the TV that I'm typing out? It's
• 38:34
  just the weirdest thing whenever that happens. This is a I'm on the right track, I think. Things are
• 38:39
  syncing up. But this is a really great example of why I oftentimes listen to classical or instrumental
• 38:51
  music when I'm writing. Yeah, I don't know why I can't do that. I can't listen to music while I'm writing.
• 38:57
  Like any kind of music. It has to be like background TV. Because usually I'm not, I can't like usually
• 39:05
  don't hear it. I don't pay attention to it. But for some reason, like the name Timmy, like,
• 39:10
  rang out in my ears and it was on like five volume. Like it wasn't on high. It was just the
• 39:16
  it was the weirdest thing. So I had to include it anyway. Enough about Timmy, Timothée, whatever you want
• 39:23
  to call it. I love Timothée Chalamet. Why don't why don't people say it correctly? I don't know.
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  Because of course, you know, I learned this because I had to Google how to spell Timothée Chalamet
• 39:34
  because I'm like, I’m Chalamet. How the fuck do you spell that? So I googled it and then I saw how
• 39:39
  his name it has like two E's on the end with like an accent. And I was like, yeah, it can't be how
• 39:45
  you pronounce that. Is it really pronounced Timothée? Yeah, it's like French. And then I watched a couple
• 39:55
  clips of him explaining, yeah, that's my name. But like, I'm not going to make you call me that
• 39:59
  because that's like, I'm not going to make you guys say Timothée all the time. So that's why people
• 40:06
  call him Timmy. Alrighty. A lot of backstory on the celebrity. You're welcome. This is TMZ.
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  [laughter]
• 40:15
  PNW TMZ. So I kind of thought that the EVP saying get out. Remember, they sounded like a young boy.
• 40:23
  I thought maybe that might be Timmy telling them to leave so that like he can get his shenanigan on
• 40:28
  without getting caught. Okay, yeah. I guess that makes sense. Get out of here. I need to steal some
• 40:34
  keys. Play with the elevator man. Do that. I'm too weird because the other shirt that I was
• 40:40
  thinking about wearing, do you want to be the she to my nanigans? Oh, yeah, I forgot. Yes.
• 40:46
  But we say shenanigan like every episode. It's true. It's true. People also say they smell
• 40:54
  something strange coming from the bathroom. Go go right. Well, I feel like I don't really need to
• 41:04
  do any debunking here. I feel like it's probably just poop. Yeah, I mean, when you say strange,
• 41:10
  do you mean that you just smells like bathroom smells or like bathroom duty? Like doody? I mean, if the
• 41:18
  do I want to know the specifics. I really wish I had the specifics for you. What the smell was
• 41:24
  because if it was like maybe sulfur, maybe that could be also poop, but that also could be demon.
• 41:32
  Poop demons. Sorry, kind of demons sometimes. I often get the poop demons.
• 41:38
  Caitlyn wouldn't know anything about that. No, I'm very unfamiliar, but
• 41:46
  well, you're going to love this next person's name. I'll tell you that right now.
• 41:51
  Art Executive Director Sarah Justice was locking up one night and says a ghost hit her in the back
• 42:01
  and felt as though it actually passed through her. Okay, no, thank you. Justice for Sarah,
• 42:07
  which is what I always say when I get like a shiver, like a go-go. Yeah. I wonder if she got a shiver.
• 42:13
  She immediately turned around and of course there was nothing there because it was a ghost.
• 42:18
  She said although that was pretty scary, the energy in the building is always very, very good and she
• 42:26
  feels like safe and happy there. Okay, and she also feels like the spirits really like the staff
• 42:32
  because they're taking care of their building. You know, I mean, that makes sense, I guess.
• 42:38
  Sarah Justice, she honestly sounds like she should be one of the Avengers.
• 42:42
  And if she says that the building has good vibes, like I probably like, okay. Yeah, okay.
• 42:51
  Sarah Justice says it's fine. It's fine. It's probably fine. Yeah. Exactly. I also was wondering like,
• 42:57
  why is she not like a lawyer? Because law school is expensive. And a lawyer is very different from
• 43:05
  an art executive director, I think. Very different things. Very, very different career paths.
• 43:10
  I actually love you where you're at, Sarah. You're doing, you're doing a great job. The ghost
• 43:15
  love you, keep it up. Don't become a lawyer. Don't do that. Yeah. Unfortunately, this is the part
• 43:22
  I do have to tell you that there is another legend of a child passing away in the building when it was
• 43:27
  a school. All right. I know. Why is, stop with the, I don't like it. I would be super pissed to die at school.
• 43:36
  And like, and then stay there too. Yeah.
• 43:41
  This was apparently the janitor's daughter in the family lived in the attic in the 1930s. Stop it.
• 43:48
  She's already been through enough. I know. She had a live at school. Hopefully she got to actually
• 43:55
  attend the school. I didn't even think about that. I guess. Yeah. Like, I don't know how old she was
• 44:01
  if she was even like junior high age. I'm not sure. But people see her fair-haired apparition
• 44:08
  floating around the museum. Okay. So do you remember the additional building, the annex that I said
• 44:19
  we were going to come back to? Yes. I always love how I'm like, do you remember? Do you remember?
• 44:24
  And I'm like, normally yes. And today it's kind of a coin toss. So you never know.
• 44:34
  So this is kind of crazy. They, they blew her up. I for a movie. Why? They blew it up for the movie
• 44:44
  Telefon, which is from 1977 starring Charles Bronson. Oh, I watched the trailer. It's kind of funny.
• 44:54
  Telefon? Telefon. Yeah. So I wanted you to look at the first link I sent you. If you keep
• 45:04
  scrolling down, you'll see pictures of them blowing it up. Shut up. That's why I didn't want you to
• 45:09
  scroll too far. Oh, wow. There's like three pictures of them blowing it up. It's crazy. They super
• 45:22
  blew it up. Wow. Next to the building. Like what? I mean, they do controlled burns, controlled
• 45:33
  demolitions. I think the smoke and stuff makes that look a lot worse. Like it looks like the buildings
• 45:43
  nearby are far more jeopardy than they probably are, but I don't know. It's crazy though. And I'm just
• 45:51
  like, who approached who? Like, how did this? Like, hey, we need to blow up this building. Like,
• 45:57
  does anyone need it? Like for film? Or was it the other way? Like, I don't know. Like, hey,
• 46:03
  you're not using that. Can we blow it up? Yeah. I feel like in Hollywood, they have to have somebody
• 46:09
  that looks at public records and stuff and maybe they find. Like a scout. Yeah. Maybe they find
• 46:17
  different things like that. Like planned demolitions or. Yeah. That's true. Wow. That was so
• 46:23
  weird. I will link the trailer in the in the sources because it's kind of funny. It's, you know,
• 46:32
  old movie. Yeah. Very dramatic. It's got the the guy with the trailer voice, you know, like the,
• 46:38
  yeah, in a world. Exactly. Like an older version of that though.
• 46:46
  I love it. To end our time here at the square, I'm going to leave y'all with a top-notch Google
• 46:56
  review from five years ago. Okay. Quote. One star is too much. The best part of the whole adventure
• 47:04
  is the cosmetic surgery of the outside of the building. Nothing inside. Remind you of a 100-year-old
• 47:11
  school. Which is basically compliment because at the time, she was only 123. I mean, she was 123 years old.
• 47:24
  So if you're saying she only looks 100. Yeah. Like thanks, girl. Thanks. Wow. Also.
• 47:30
  You bitch. Like, 100-year-old school. Well, it is also like, yeah. I mean, kind of missing the point
• 47:40
  there, you know, where it actually is. Yeah. And they say nothing inside. It's a museum full of art.
• 47:49
  Now, not their cup of tea, I guess. I don't know where you were. Did you not go into any of the
• 47:55
  art rooms? Maybe you just wandered the halls. But I've seen videos and there's definitely art in the
• 48:00
  halls. So I don't know. I don't know where. What the just went in and looked at these teen stuff. And
• 48:05
  they were like, I'm out. Maybe, but I just had a thought. What if they went in to a time slip? Oh,
• 48:18
  but then it would have looked kind of like a new school. Well, 100 maybe they were talking about like,
• 48:22
  the vibe looked like it was 100 years old. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, they could have time slipped into
• 48:29
  like the window where the school. Oh, it was still there, but it was still a school. Like the
• 48:36
  transition between like school and museum where like there was just nothing weird. Yeah. Maybe
• 48:45
  solved it. Well, she liked to do some tarot. Let's do it. I think we should. I brought my cute ghosty
• 48:57
  tarot deck with me today. Sundered energy into the cars. Okay, and I've got the tarot book.
• 49:06
  Okay, I'm going to be shuffling them for a second. I cleanse them already. All right, all right, all right.
• 49:12
  I think it's this one. It was like sticking up out of the car. I can't see what it is, but we're going to go
• 49:22
  back. Oh, stop. Okay, I can't see it because my frame is too small. I know you can't, but this is crazy.
• 49:29
  Shall I do me? Oh, what does that look like, dude? I was going to say, is it the tower? Yeah, that's
• 49:37
  crazy. It's not the tower, but it is fire. It does. It's the fire. It's the explosion. Explosing. Explosing.
• 49:46
  It is the ace of sticks also. I think we, which is interesting ones, right?
• 49:52
  Sticks. Oh my god. I know. That's three people. Okay. I think, yeah, sticks is ones. Okay. And it was
• 50:02
  in reverse. Okay. We were just talking about the flames and it looks like smoke on the top. Like, oh,
• 50:08
  my god. Did you guys see the picture? It looks like a mushroom cloud. Yeah. Dude, I'm dead. That's crazy. That's
• 50:17
  crazy. Okay. Our keywords are opportunity, inspiration, adventure, creativity, and a new start.
• 50:31
  Art, creativity, and new start. Yeah. Like, when you blow up a building, then in the building was like,
• 50:39
  what was like for what read the keywords again? I'm so sorry. Opportunity. Opportunity. It reminded me
• 50:45
  of like the four girls who like wanted the opportunity. Yes. Yeah. Right back to the beginning. Wow. Wow.
• 50:54
  Aces signify beginnings. Yeah. They also represent focused energy and clear singular intent.
• 51:05
  Focused energy on like focusing on blowing up one part of the building, but not the other. Maybe,
• 51:13
  in the writer, wait, Smith, tarot, and some other decks. The ace of ones shows a disembodied hand emerging
• 51:23
  from a cloud, grasping a stick from which new shoots grow. The message, here's an opportunity.
• 51:31
  Grab it. Some decks picture only a wand, often one that's large and elaborate like a ruler's
• 51:39
  sector or a witch's ceremonial tool. And there is an extra excerpt before actually there's two
• 51:48
  before our interpretation. Okay. The first one's really short because this just goes back to how the ace,
• 51:57
  it's the highest or lowest. In modern day games of chance, the ace often stands as the highest card.
• 52:05
  In the tarot, however, it occupies the other end of the spectrum. Not the lowest, but the earliest step.
• 52:14
  Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. Because we talked about the earliest step of the building and then like where it is now.
• 52:22
  Yeah. Get a little bit more of my divination juice.
• 52:27
  You were always newer to the divine and the true sources of your power than you think.
• 52:35
  Clearly. The lure of the distant and the difficult is deceptive.
• 52:44
  The great opportunity is where you are. Oh, I like every place is under the stars.
• 52:52
  Every place is the center of the world. Every place is the Pacific Northwest. Yeah. I love it.
• 53:01
  I love that your head goes there immediately. I don't know.
• 53:06
  Okay. The reverse interpretation for the ace of ones is delays and complications have stalled and
• 53:14
  endeavor and you feel frustrated or impatient. Oh, that's interesting because I didn't put this in,
• 53:22
  but they were having that issues in the attic, which I'm like, is that a show?
• 53:27
  Oh my god. Yeah. So they had a huge bat colony in the attic, but obviously it's not good for an older
• 53:35
  building to have like back wall know everywhere and they want to like use that space up there for storage
• 53:41
  and stuff and yeah. And they were working on, you know, trying to get a grant to help out with that.
• 53:48
  And they were, I think they were having some trouble getting that they were trying to raise money.
• 53:53
  So that's interesting. Okay. Yeah. So that ties in not even a stretch. Yeah. I know. Yeah. Wow.
• 54:05
  As a result, you may question yourself and your ability.
• 54:08
  You might have to rethink your plans and make adjustments or perhaps sit back and wait for a better
• 54:17
  time. Like when a production company approaches you about using a controlled demolition or
• 54:24
  part of their move, you said. Yeah. I wonder if they were going to have to pay to like tear that down
• 54:33
  and then they got it done for free or yeah, maybe that's kind of what I was thinking. Oh, that's
• 54:41
  interesting. I bet you the Hollywood production company was like, oh yeah, we'll totally pay to blow that
• 54:48
  up. But like we're going to blow it up. You know what they need to do. They need another Hollywood movie
• 54:56
  to come film in the attic and then they can get rid of the bats. Yeah. Not blow it up. But you know,
• 55:07
  just clean it up. Yeah. Yeah. Just come through. Just burst it up. It's a big project because they have
• 55:13
  to let there's like places in the roof all over where they they can get in. So they have to like
• 55:19
  blow it up inside and out all of those spots. Oh man. Yeah. That sounds like why did the project?
• 55:27
  It was like fixed to rubber. I think that was two years ago where I saw that. Okay. So I don't know
• 55:34
  if they've gotten that done yet or not. I'm not sure. So that seems recent enough. In a reading about
• 55:40
  money, this card suggests consolidating your finances and focusing on what's essential.
• 55:48
  Curb spending. Don't overextend yourself now. I mean, they run on like donations and stuff. So I
• 55:57
  don't think that they have that. Yeah. They have that. You're like, that's probably not going to happen.
• 56:01
  Yeah. Okay. In a reading about work, it can mean an enthusiastic start,
• 56:07
  fizzled or met with obstacles. Obstacles probably. Yeah. You don't have to give up, but you may need to
• 56:16
  put in some extra effort or reassess the situation. This card may advise you to wait for a more
• 56:24
  auspicious time when the force is with you to begin a project or other venture. Oh,
• 56:34
  interesting. Oh, you're only. Oh, well, now I want to know how it's going over there in Montana.
• 56:40
  And oh, great falls. Great falls. Oh, I can't believe that. It's so wild. Well,
• 56:48
  okay. In a reading about love, the ACE reversed suggests an enjoyable relationship may be
• 56:58
  short-lived. Perhaps you approached an affair wearing rose-colored glasses and now see it's not what
• 57:07
  you really want. This card may also mean the initial passion in a romance is dwindling.
• 57:14
  I hope that's not about the ghosts. Like, I hope that they're like thinking the ghosts like them and
• 57:25
  feeling like the positive energy. I hope that doesn't like dwindle. It worries me because of the
• 57:30
  thing that like pushed through her. Like, I don't know if that was. Yeah. She said it was scary, but
• 57:38
  it still felt like overall positive energy in the building, but I don't know. Like, could have
• 57:43
  been an accident, but it could have not been. Could have been a ghost like, "Ah, I didn't see you there.
• 57:49
  It didn't mean to walk through you, you know." I'm just, I'm realizing because obviously I told you that
• 57:57
  I have family that lives in Montana now. That's where my mom was born.
• 58:03
  My grandparents lived in great falls. What? That's crazy. I had no idea. Yeah. And Jesus Christ,
• 58:17
  I feel like this, I'm giving people all of the things that they need to, all of the key word
• 58:23
  stuff that they need to be able to steal my identity right now. But my grandparents, my grandma's
• 58:32
  name was Audrey, but her nickname was one of them was Ace. Oh, what? That's so weird. I thought
• 58:45
  you were going to say Timmy for a second. I was like, "Oh, oh, oh, oh, my gosh, that's crazy. You guys
• 58:51
  get the eights." Oh, that's so sweet. Yeah, you're welcome. Thank you. I don't know why I picked. I know I was
• 59:02
  like right off the bat. I was like so random. So random. Yeah. Especially like the first thing I do in
• 59:11
  Montana, and I didn't, you know, I searched haunted things in Montana and found an article of a bunch
• 59:17
  of different ones. And I was like, "Oh, school, back to school. Like, let's do it." So it wasn't. Yeah. Interesting.
• 59:24
  Yeah, that's just so funny because I guess immediately I was kind of thinking like,
• 59:30
  that is weird that I said boiler. And this is like all about like a boiler room. Yeah.
• 59:39
  Okay. Well, I don't, I'm not exactly sure if I know what I think it means, but I feel like it's
• 59:49
  all synchronistic. Yeah. I did have another thought about it being a school and stuff. I've heard a
• 59:57
  lot of ghost stories, obviously. And you? Yeah, I know me. One of the things about schools, why they
• 1:00:05
  think it holds on to like so much energy, why they're often pretty haunted is because it's like a
• 1:00:11
  transition period for kids. And there's a lot of, you know, emotions and energy. Yeah. In a school.
• 1:00:19
  And it just kind of sticks there. And so I was thinking, well, this whole building was a school. And
• 1:00:26
  also it blew up too. So like, I don't know what energy from like the explosion, if that kind of
• 1:00:34
  energized anything that was going on there, I'm not sure how that works either. Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:00:40
  I mean, do we watch ghost busters and might just take their pointers? I wonder if now that's why
• 1:00:50
  they feel like the ghosts like, enjoy them, like them because the building has been abused in the past.
• 1:00:59
  So maybe they weren't like super happy with that. I mean, I feel like that makes sense. Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  I also can't believe we got a fucking stick tree tree. And it has like arms that looks like.
• 1:01:13
  Oh, you're, I didn't even put this together. Okay, so you were doing your lights and you're like,
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  is it orange enough? And I was like, well, make your chandelier like darker orange and you made it red.
• 1:01:28
  And you have orange and red because we're kind of going for fall vibes. But like, I didn't even put
• 1:01:34
  together like the explosion stuff when we were talking about the lights either. Well, and you'll remember,
• 1:01:39
  I think maybe because I I struggled to remember, I'm clearly not a plant, wait, the plant that I have
• 1:01:49
  in the pot lab that's at the top of the show. What is that? That's your grandma's plant. Yeah,
• 1:01:56
  but what kind of plant is it? Is it? Oh, what a kind of plant is it? Oh, I don't remember.
• 1:02:01
  I thought you would remember what kind of plant it was. Oh, I don't know off the top of my head.
• 1:02:06
  But that's the same grandma, right? That you're talking about? Oh my gosh. She's just like always
• 1:02:12
  up in your grill. I feel like with these terms. I think a little bit. Yeah.
• 1:02:16
  Probably, you know, we've got the plant in here. So she's channeling something. Also, no shade, but
• 1:02:26
  she was clearly a witchy bitch. All of her and her mothers like favorite animals.
• 1:02:35
  I mean, just familiar city. Just witchy, just witchy out the wazoo. I'm like good. Hmm.
• 1:02:51
  They're wanting maybe they're kind of like trying to channel that witchiness into you because
• 1:02:57
  they didn't get to express it. You know, I'm not even sure that they would have known that they
• 1:03:02
  wanted to. Yeah. But exactly. For most of my maternal grandmother's life, she had two black dogs.
• 1:03:14
  Like multiple different two black dogs. I love that. She loved frogs. Her mother loved owls.
• 1:03:25
  I mean, just listen, I think a lot of people would argue that owls and frogs
• 1:03:32
  not inherently loveable animals for a lot of people. Oh, I think they're adorable. I think they're
• 1:03:40
  adorable. Like for me, there's like an emotional like connection there that's I feel like separate
• 1:03:48
  from how I might listen owls. If you really want to talk about their eating habits and stuff,
• 1:03:54
  those are some creepy mother fuggers. I want owl pellets so bad. I also, before we end,
• 1:04:06
  did we still want to say a couple things about the fest? True crime fest. I wanted to show off
• 1:04:15
  my ghost face. Get it? I know that was so cute. Oh, you know what? Do you remember where I got this from?
• 1:04:22
  I think it was the same stall where I bought a couple of things that I think the pod people are
• 1:04:32
  going to like. Was it the book lady? Yeah. I think so. I think so too. I got a book.
• 1:04:39
  I'm very excited. You have to say the name of the book for people who can't see the video.
• 1:04:46
  Oh, that's fair. Totally terrifying true crime trivia by Brian Boone. Love it.
• 1:04:58
  Never. We love the illiteration, Brian Boone. And then I also got a game. So this is criminal mastermind,
• 1:05:10
  true crime trivia. Oh, there's a lot of goodies in here and I'm still, still letting it season.
• 1:05:23
  I'm holding it over. I'm thinking about how we want to use this. Maybe with the Patreon.
• 1:05:29
  Maybe with our socials. Maybe a little bit above. Yeah, we'll see. I feel like it would be really fun
• 1:05:38
  to do like a game night with the Patreon. Oh, yeah, that would be fun. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  We started and I don't know if we've even released any of them are cold reads from that one creepy book.
• 1:05:54
  We didn't finish it. I don't know if we're going to go back to it. We did do a couple of them.
• 1:05:59
  I don't know. Like maybe that's something like if we did like a read along. Maybe that's what it should be.
• 1:06:06
  Like instead of it being us recording it, like let's do like like a segment where we do like
• 1:06:16
  some true crimes and you know, maybe we can find something similar to this. It's like paranormal.
• 1:06:22
  But do like a true crime trivia. We could like, I don't know. I feel like there's other board games
• 1:06:32
  that fit in that we could play online and we do like a game night. I think it would be fun.
• 1:06:41
  And then I think we do like a read along. Like not popcorn read.
• 1:06:47
  And I want to figure out one. We should do popcorn reading. We'll get on Zoom and just popcorn read to
• 1:06:54
  each other. No. No, but if we were kind of toying around with this book that we got and some
• 1:07:02
  different things that we could do to kind of like create some fun content for Patreon. And I think
• 1:07:09
  maybe if we did like a little read along like a live stream of us reading it, that might be fun.
• 1:07:15
  Maybe yeah, maybe we can release like the first chapter or two that we did actually do like hold
• 1:07:23
  reads on. And then we can get them kind of sucked in and like people will know what the book is
• 1:07:33
  like kind of about. It's a bunch of short stories. But maybe then people are like, oh these are kind
• 1:07:38
  of interesting and like I want to listen to these. And I don't know. That maybe do a little
• 1:07:46
  little live read with with our friends. I'm down for that. Whatever you all want. I'm just saying I'm
• 1:07:53
  just coming up with the idea. She's that ideal woman. Just like no, I'm like I'm a thousand percent.
• 1:08:03
  Like execution is not it's like 80% idea and 20% execution. So thank Cassie for the other you know
• 1:08:16
  whatever gets executed. She did the other 80% of that because I'm like you're gonna be a lot of credit
• 1:08:22
  here. What if we just did she's like I don't know. I don't know. Figure it out. Yeah.
• 1:08:32
  And then sometimes we figure it out. Sometimes we don't and then you don't ever see it or hear about.
• 1:08:38
  Yeah. And then it's like okay bye. We gotta go. But I think that'd be super fun. I would love to hear
• 1:08:47
  from our Patreon and just from listeners a large if they would be interested in that.
• 1:08:54
  So listeners at large. Large and in charge. She did. She did.
• 1:09:05
  For clock tower. Have the creepiest day. We'll see you next Tuesday.
• 1:09:12
  For God's sake. I hope I don't have COVID by that. No, you know.
• 1:09:21
  Do you hear that? Oh my god. Is that Timmy? Timmy. Timmy with this so long key.
• 1:09:28
  That was me you guys. Oh it's my beetle juice. I love it. I love it. It's I really like.
• 1:09:38
  I thought twice.
• 1:09:46
  Okay so I go out there or I go you know too close the door and I look over because I'm like I'm
• 1:09:52
  going to close the door. So you don't have to be like as quiet. He's literally sitting on the couch
• 1:09:57
  which like is like right by the door. It backs up to the wall of the pot lab and he's sitting there
• 1:10:05
  eating. He's just got the whole like it's like one of those big boxes like movie candy size of
• 1:10:12
  nerds that I got. I instacarded last night because here's the thing. Dairy Queen betrayed me
• 1:10:20
  a long time ago and they stopped making nerd blizzards. So everyone's and well I will get a container
• 1:10:29
  of vanilla ice cream and I will get nerds and I mix those bad boys together and oh my
• 1:10:36
  nerds and ice cream. Yeah it's so good. It's like sweet but also like his nerds are kind of like they
• 1:10:45
  are you know fruity and tangy and sour kind of. I like them and like the nerd slushy that
• 1:10:52
  Sonic does. Oh I didn't know they made a nerd slushy but like dairy and nerds for some reason don't
• 1:10:59
  aren't. No it's amazing. It's amazing. It's my favorite. It's my favorite thing. Maybe I would try it
• 1:11:07
  one day with some dairy free vanilla ice cream but I don't know I wouldn't be like super stoked to try it.
• 1:11:13
  You should be it's incredible. Okay. May. Am I? I don't know if I trust you anymore. I don't know if
• 1:11:21
  I trust your judge Wow. Wow. Judgy make a judge than over here. Okay well I'm gonna let you
• 1:11:31
  I'ma let you finish. Okay thank you. Oh speaking of Taylor's Swift.
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