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Mahomes ACL tear ends Chiefs era, Sherrone Moore Saga unfolds, Philip Rivers returns | 12.15 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time. A wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: a hater. We will get to the Sharon Brown story. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: we did a lot of pre-recording last week and then
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  Speaker 1: that shit happened. So, you know. Shouldn't have left you
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  Speaker 1: without a dope beat step, too. However, it just works
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  Speaker 1: out that way sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Shrung Moore.
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  Speaker 1: You know who I was mixing him up with, Ryan? I.
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  Speaker 3: I.
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  Speaker 2: You said they, uh... Senator, the old, the Senator from Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was. Yes, I was. I was visiting him
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  Speaker 1: up with, how does he say it? Sherrod?
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it looks like Sherrod, but I believe
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  Speaker 2: it's Sherrod.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he goes with Sherrod. And I wonder, like.
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  Speaker 2: They don't make a lot of either of those.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and when Sherrod, like, became a thing, was he
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  Speaker 1: sitting around saying y'all are saying it wrong?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Like, it means he's just insisting. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: It is Sherrod, not Sherrod. And somebody was like, hey, Rob,
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  Speaker 1: what you say, bro? I ain't even really understand you
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 2: It depends on what parts of Ohio he was in.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have so many questions because I also feel
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  Speaker 1: like his Sherrod precedes the proliferation of Sherrods in the
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  Speaker 1: larger society.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Or perhaps when he was born, I guess somebody thought
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  Speaker 1: it was He had a different daddy. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Many things are possible. Anything can happen. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it is Sherold Moore. You are correct. And I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: I had funny jokes to make off of that. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 1: we'd have had to re-rack and start it again. However,
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  Speaker 1: we're here.
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  Speaker 3: Here we are.
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  Speaker 1: We're rolling. We'll get to that. And now I have
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  Speaker 1: to put on my solemn face because Patrick Mahomes has
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  Speaker 1: a torn ACL. Best quarterback I believe that I have
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  Speaker 1: ever seen and seen. One that I don't have the
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  Speaker 1: greatest interpretation of his play this year, but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: not inclined to believe that out of nowhere he became terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is creating a similar conversation, although he don't
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  Speaker 1: play good. I don't understand that either. But either way,
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  Speaker 1: with Mahomes, it's a torn ACL. It happens. Basically, they
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  Speaker 1: weren't going to win that game. They're not going to
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  Speaker 1: go to the playoffs anymore. So almost in a way,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered if they were 13 and 0, right?
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  Speaker 1: Mahomes has his ACL. All of this is moot. It's
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  Speaker 1: a wrap on you guys. You're done. They try to
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  Speaker 1: garden a miss you out there. Like, come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: It just ain't going to be. Now, obviously, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want your quarterback to suffer a major injury. But I
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  Speaker 1: think it's very interesting to consider at times, like, ACL
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  Speaker 1: still sounds like ACL. You know what a torn ACL
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  Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways? A torn ACL is
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  Speaker 1: a lot like the word millionaire. Okay? And here's what
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  Speaker 1: I mean by that. Millionaire at one time meant someone
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  Speaker 1: who had $ 1 million or someone who made $ 1 million
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  Speaker 1: a year, however you want to put it, right? Okay. However,
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  Speaker 1: What a million dollars means is much different now than
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  Speaker 1: what it used to mean. It used to mean you
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  Speaker 1: had a much more of a staggering sum of money
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  Speaker 1: because inflation, da, da, da, everything else, right? So like
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  Speaker 1: people who are millionaires now, the word in technically speaking,
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  Speaker 1: May mean the same thing, what a million dollars is,
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  Speaker 1: but in the actual function of it, not quite. But
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  Speaker 1: when people call somebody a millionaire, they still mean it
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  Speaker 1: like they did back in the days of Daddy Warbucks, right?
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  Speaker 1: They say it the exact same way, they mean it
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  Speaker 1: the same way, but a million dollars ain't the same.
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  Speaker 1: Torn ACL is very similar in the sense that while
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  Speaker 1: it is a lot of injury, just as a million
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  Speaker 1: dollars is still a lot of money. But Robin Leach
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  Speaker 1: ain't showing up on your house for no one million dollars.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a little bit less doom and gloom around
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  Speaker 1: the idea that you have a torn ACL.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is fair to assume that at some
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  Speaker 1: point next season, Patrick Mahomes will be back. I think
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  Speaker 1: it would be silly to try to rush that process, right?
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  Speaker 1: You don't need to get yourself on no Robert Griffin
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  Speaker 1: all in for week one situation. Go ahead and take
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  Speaker 1: your time and take this opportunity to look around the
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  Speaker 1: place and ask yourself, What kind of changes is it
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  Speaker 1: that you need to make? Because maybe y'all need to
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  Speaker 1: make some changes. And I say that because, Ryan, how
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  Speaker 1: many of them went 15 games last year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they went 15-2.
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  Speaker 1: They went 15-2, and they went to the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, they got their clocks cleaned in the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a bit of a cliffhanger season, but
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  Speaker 1: They won 15 games last year. And I think most
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  Speaker 1: of us believed that they got better.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: After last year, coming into this year, the advanced numbers,
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  Speaker 1: like we talked about this DVOA, they were top 10
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  Speaker 1: DVOA team, but they lived at the margins last year.
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  Speaker 1: And this year at those same margins, it was going
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  Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. And that makes it somewhat difficult
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate how good you are or are not, right?
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  Speaker 1: From where I'm standing. I do think, and you tell
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  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here, Chris Jones is a thank
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  Speaker 1: you for the memories. We're going to play a real
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  Speaker 1: long video when you come back and play against us
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  Speaker 1: for another team, one that you will try to seek
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  Speaker 1: out in your own division because you're going to be mad.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like Chris Jones, Denver Bronco. I don't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about the cap or anything else, but that's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff that happens. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have decisions to make about him. Travis Kelsey.
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  Speaker 1: This has to be over. Right. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's been bad this year, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: How much money you can keep pumping into this? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much more he's going to want to do. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you think he want to come back and play with
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  Speaker 1: no guard to miss you?
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  Speaker 2: And he's got, let's say, other things he can do.
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  Speaker 1: He does. He does. Matter of time before he and
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  Speaker 1: Klay Thompson get a podcast together. Clay Johnson, you see
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  Speaker 1: that where Megan Stallion put that video up of her
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  Speaker 1: picking out his clothes for him and then putting that
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  Speaker 1: thang on him and then he showed up in those clothes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that he even still comes to the games.
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  Speaker 2: Right like again again someone with better options.
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  Speaker 1: Yo he is in and i look good good for
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  Speaker 1: all the people involved i want to be very clear.
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  Speaker 2: About everyone involved seems very happy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah but clay thompson in particular look like that kind
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  Speaker 1: of like i'm in college love right right like it
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  Speaker 1: hits you for the first time and college love can
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  Speaker 1: definitely have you skipping classes I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: longer she's going to keep on rapping.
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  Speaker 3: All of this.
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  Speaker 1: But I look at him in particular. I don't even know.
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  Speaker 1: And y'all ain't even good. I'm sorry. You want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about going through the motions in practice. Especially with
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  Speaker 1: that dumpster fire that they've got over there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Who wants to go to work and hang
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  Speaker 2: out with Jason Kidd?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. When nothing's going the way that it was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to. You see, what's his name?
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  Speaker 5: Lively?
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  Speaker 1: He got hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, all the reasons we thought they might be
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  Speaker 1: able to make, you know, make something out of that situation.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to trade Anthony Davis. Yeah, it's... Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I think... The Mavericks and Klay Thompson have
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  Speaker 2: agreed to a contract buyout for X amount of numbers.
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  Speaker 2: Feels very March-ish.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, although it's entirely possible that Klay... None of this
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  Speaker 1: bothers him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He could be... He might just be showing up to
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  Speaker 1: work like, oh man, we lost again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Shucks. Shucks.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go back to my very famous, very attractive,
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  Speaker 2: very talented wife who's also... A very good cook on
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  Speaker 2: the side.
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  Speaker 1: And my four championships rings that I've already acquired.
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  Speaker 2: And my nearly $ 300 million I made playing basketball.
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  Speaker 1: Why does he still come to work? I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: why he still comes to work. Patrick Mahomes might be
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  Speaker 1: itching to get his ass back, though, but that's neither
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  Speaker 1: here nor there.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about a spouse who might start a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying might. I don't know nothing that's going
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  Speaker 1: on in their life, right? I've seen enough of Klay
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  Speaker 1: Thompson to know what's going on there. Patrick Mahomes, I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea. I'm just throwing up the possibility that
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  Speaker 1: you might be out here putting in work, right?
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  Speaker 2: Aggressively attacking his rehab.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, here I was talking about he ain't going to
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  Speaker 1: get back for week one. You never know. He might
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  Speaker 1: be like, No, I'll be back for OTAs. Who's to say?
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  Speaker 1: We got somebody we'll talk about a little bit later
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  Speaker 1: that apparently, you know, didn't want to be home that
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  Speaker 1: bad himself. But they got to figure some stuff out, man.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Like the Chiefs are in a situation now.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just simply that they have to figure
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  Speaker 1: some stuff out. They have the opportunity to do it.
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  Speaker 1: This can happen where you get something a little bad happens.
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  Speaker 1: And now, you know, sometimes it is that somebody will
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  Speaker 1: go in and they'll have one surgery. But since they
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  Speaker 1: in there for the first surgery, like go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: be like, OK, well, since you're going to be laid up,
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  Speaker 1: why don't we go ahead and do this scope on
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  Speaker 1: your ankle, too? Right. That happens sometimes. feel like that
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  Speaker 1: is the situation the Chiefs are in this is a
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  Speaker 1: question that my good buddy Charlie Kravitz brought up while
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  Speaker 1: we were talking both bouncing things I was preparing for
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  Speaker 1: our various shows but Kravitz made a very interesting point
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  Speaker 1: about this Kyle Shanahan over there making it happen with
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  Speaker 1: Matt Corkle Jones. They got a receiver they spend like
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  Speaker 1: $ 30 million a year on. They just got rid of him. Like,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't even play. Christian McCaffrey's gotten old. George Kittle
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  Speaker 1: is whatever age he is, whatever. But you hand Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Shanahan whatever, Kyle Shanahan will cook up an offense for you.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Reid has... perhaps the best quarterback of all time. And,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we generally agreed that what they had going
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  Speaker 1: on at receiver was pretty good coming into this year,
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  Speaker 1: especially after they got Rasheed Rice back, right? Like, remember,
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  Speaker 1: we thought that anything that we thought was short with
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  Speaker 1: that offense, well, once he came back off of that suspension,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking at it like, oh, okay, cool. Well, now
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be straight, right? Like, I felt good
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  Speaker 1: about seeing Thornton. Like, they had speed. They had guys
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  Speaker 1: that could at least get down the field and get open.
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  Speaker 1: They're not able to generate much offense. They're not able
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  Speaker 1: to run the ball. This game against the Chargers, they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball. How much of that is scheme, right?
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  Speaker 1: How much of that is not a question of how
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  Speaker 1: good the coach is. It's a question of how good
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  Speaker 1: of a job the coach is doing, given what they had. Mike,
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  Speaker 1: now's the chance and opportunity for them to do the
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  Speaker 1: math on all of these things. because worst case scenario
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  Speaker 1: just showed up man like like this is the thing
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  Speaker 1: we're at that time of year in the nfl where
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  Speaker 1: now the guys are dropping like flies um and we're
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  Speaker 1: not at the point of the 17th game of the
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  Speaker 1: season but i mean i think some of this does
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  Speaker 1: wind up being cumulative year over year or whatever but
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  Speaker 1: every additional game of football you play is another chance
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  Speaker 1: for a catastrophe right that's just kind of how how
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  Speaker 1: it goes uh michael parsons that sounds like an acl
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  Speaker 1: tear um Ryan, they say in all the things they
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  Speaker 1: say when they know it's an ACL tear, but they
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  Speaker 1: just hope it gets hope with that MRI.
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  Speaker 2: You look at Adam Schefter's Twitter and it's Micah Parsons,
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  Speaker 2: coach commenting on Micah Parsons, does not look good. Sean
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  Speaker 2: McVay on Devontae Adams, does not look good. Puka Nakua
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  Speaker 2: walked out of that game. He ended up coming back. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, you know, what happened with Micah and– Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Devontae Adams. I was watching that play as it happened.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like it's that old sniper.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Like he just went straight down. Like this is,
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  Speaker 1: can your team hold up? Right. That's just, that's just
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  Speaker 1: really what this comes down to now from this point
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  Speaker 1: for the rest. And if you're in a position where
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  Speaker 1: you lose your best player, Now you really check some things, right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say this, though. I know the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 1: they play the Vikings. We recorded before that game because
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  Speaker 1: we don't really care that much. But I tell you,
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  Speaker 1: it's a high possibility that Jerry Jones is going to
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  Speaker 1: say the wrong thing. You know, so I like I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you people right now, it's 823 Eastern Time
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  Speaker 1: when we are recording this. So if Jerry happened to
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  Speaker 1: say something like, well, you know. We were a little
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  Speaker 1: bit fearful of something like that.
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  Speaker 2: We will talk about it on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That is why we decided to trade him. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that he's going to say that, but it's
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  Speaker 1: totally in the cards that I can look like a psychic.
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  Speaker 1: And he says the exact same thing that I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about right now. Jerry, don't be remembering that anybody is
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  Speaker 1: out here listening to him, paying attention to the words
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  Speaker 1: that he says, right? It could happen. Um, But also
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  Speaker 1: there's this possibility, Ryan, let me get you back on
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  Speaker 1: this because I'm curious what you think here. Chiefs been
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  Speaker 1: doing this for 10 years, man. Right. Like even in
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  Speaker 1: the presence of the greatest quarterback we've ever seen, maybe
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  Speaker 1: this is how a run is supposed to end.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, you look, obviously you make the AFC
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  Speaker 2: championship game 17 years or seven years in a row,
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  Speaker 2: excuse me. They've been making the playoffs every year from 2014.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously some of that predates Patrick Mahomes, you know, in
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  Speaker 2: the Alex Smith years, I think Kelsey was probably had
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  Speaker 2: a piece in all of that. Yeah. So like you look,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the cumulative effect, they've essentially played an extra
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  Speaker 2: season's worth of games over this last half decade. And
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  Speaker 2: that has to have a wear and tear on everyone
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  Speaker 2: on that building.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like whatever it is, it's going to be the next
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  Speaker 1: stretch of this run. So I think the Brady years
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  Speaker 1: are the Patriots. I feel like we can break down
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  Speaker 1: into three stretches. And the stretch is really, the inflection
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  Speaker 1: point is Randy Moss.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Like, there is, to me.
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  Speaker 2: On both ends. Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: It's before Moss, during Moss, after Moss. And during Moss,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair, is only if, like, what is it,
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  Speaker 1: a three-year stretch? Yeah. Like, 07, 08, 09, and then
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  Speaker 1: 2010 is when they traded him to the Vikings.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 1: Those are the different runs. That middle one has the
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  Speaker 1: 17-1 season or 16-1, however it turned out. Yeah, 18-1.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. That run had the year where Brady
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  Speaker 1: gets hurt, right? But then even in 09, he came back.
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  Speaker 1: He was really good. That team was one thing. It
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  Speaker 1: was built around another paradigm where they did not have
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: any great receiving threat. You had very good Troy Brown,
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  Speaker 1: for example. You had Deion Branch. And then after, it
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: is the tight end era. It is Rob Gronkowski, the
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  Speaker 1: stretch with Aaron Hernandez. It's basically when they just started
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  Speaker 1: throwing the ball to the white boys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you're not even mentioning Wes Walker or
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  Speaker 2: Julian Edelman. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, remember him? Chris Hogan, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Danny Amendola.
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  Speaker 1: Gunnar Olszewski.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: That's just when Belichick had the Google alert, right? Just, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: there must have been a nonprofit, like a placement organization,
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  Speaker 1: like the one that puts poor black kids into prep schools.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Like somebody had to be like, no, if you just
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  Speaker 1: sit down and interview him, you'll see what we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about and we'll make it work. But whatever the run was,
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  Speaker 1: that run is done.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I guess we would call that the it's really kind
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  Speaker 1: of the Travis Kelsey era, as you know, you're correct
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  Speaker 1: in the Alex Smith part. Right. Like Kelsey's kind of
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  Speaker 1: the bridge. But obviously we're talking about Patrick Mahomes. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But if we say it's the end of Kelsey, it's
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  Speaker 1: the end of Mahomes. This is going to be the split. Look,
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  Speaker 1: you got tickets to sell and everything else, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't put him back on the field until like you
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  Speaker 1: put him back at the end of next season. So
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  Speaker 1: he's not starting like when Paul George broke his leg
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and they brought him back for eight games at the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: end of one year because there was no reason to
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: come at the top of the next year with him.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Like with all that, whatever was apprehensive or whatever wasn't solid,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: like go ahead and work that stuff out now. But
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: if this is the end of that run, that's what
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: five Super Bowls. three championships, a 5,000-yard passing season, three MVPs.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. With maybe the greatest tight end of all time.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: With possibly the best tight end in the history of
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, maybe.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, interesting.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no. Look, and this is no knock to
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. You could make the argument that Travis Kelsey
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: is the fifth best tight end in the history of
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: of the AFC West.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Gronk?
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no. AFC West. Antonio Gates. In no
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: particular order.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Antonio Gates.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. Kelly Winslow.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Tony Gonzalez.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. Dave Casper is also in the Hall of Fame,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: for whatever it's worth. I don't have the same frame
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of reference on him. That's just to say that is
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the division of great tight ends.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Is there.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates... had a hundred something touchdown catches.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, his stats look unreal. And I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: and I mean, obviously like people like Shannon was unbelievable.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Winslow was unbelievable. Like those are, or you said it's
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: a conference of great tight ends.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: But this is the thing I'd say about Gates. That's
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a bit different relative to all of them is that
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Gates was a number like Shannon sharp was a threat
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: as a tight end. Antonio Gates, I feel like for
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the entirety of his run was basically the number one receiver.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I don't recall a Tyreek Hill on the Antonio Gates watch.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: He was that guy, right? Let's say 100-something touchdown catch.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: We talked about Phillip Rivers. The idea that Phillip Rivers
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: is going to the Hall of Fame, if he does,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Antonio Gates is a significant reason why that could happen.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But no, this would be an unreal run that they
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: have had, right? Like, just nuts. It is kind of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: whack that it would end with a Patrick Mahomes ACL tear,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he's done.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: No. Quickly, there are always seven receivers with more touchdowns
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: than Antonio Gates.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think people miss a.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And one of them we're not allowed to name on
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: the show. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. It's not like... Like, look, just to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: be clear on tight ends, to me, there's two lists.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: There's the list that has Gronk on it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't said the word Gronk yet.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And then the one for the rest of you.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Like, Travis Kelsey is a better tight end to Rob Gronkowski. No, man. Like,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: don't let my buddy Nick get y'all out here lying
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to y'all selves. And if it's not Nick that's got
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you saying that, stop smoking crack. Ryan, I want you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: to jump on here with me because you can... vouch
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: for the truth in this. I was telling you about this.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So we have recorded all of our episodes for the
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: week by Wednesday, right? We had some travel situations to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: deal with and stuff like that, so we got everything
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: recorded early. Thank you guys also for checking out the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: interview with Alex Stapleton, director of the Diddy Doc, right?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all on that. So anyway... Gerard Moore. Was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it Wednesday night? Wednesday?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It was Wednesday. Yeah, Wednesday evening.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wednesday at the 4 o'clock hour. We have time stamps.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: It was Wednesday at the 4 o'clock hour that word
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: got out that he had been fired. And I immediately
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: started hearing some wild stuff, right? People immediately. And when
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I say I was hearing, I'm not saying it's like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I'm some kind of journalist, but it was enough. that
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, wow, there's stuff going on here, right?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: So I was getting a call from all the networks
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: all day long to CNN on Thursdays like, yo, can
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: you come on and talk about this Michigan coach? And
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, man, I don't really got that much
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about, but I'm going to be honest with you.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing that a lot might come down the pipe,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to pass on this. And they're like, well,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: here's our reporting. I'm like, yeah, I don't think– I'm
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: going to just not talk about none of this.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: It's five days since I said that. And I personally
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: feel like now it's finally appropriate to talk about this. Like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that there was nothing that was offering
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: me any pressure to talk about this before because we
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: needed stuff to happen. And the thing that I didn't
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: expect to happen was that he was going to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: arraigned in the white jumpsuit in a rubber room.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, he took his arraignments. On Zoom.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: On Zoom.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was 2020.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: It's over, right? Like, after this is done, we will
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: never see his face again. Think about this. He doesn't
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: turn 40 until February, okay? He got a dream job,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and his entire career is over. before he turned 40
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: years old, right? Now, Ryan, I feel this is a
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: time where it's glad, you know, I got you here
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: with me and that we are of somewhat different cultural backgrounds, right?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Because we can just acknowledge that for all parties involved here,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the story is made more salacious by the fact that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: he risked it all behind some young white woman that
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: worked in the office.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: His assistant. Yeah. Yes.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: This is still, uh, a hot button issue in America, right?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: It don't get people killed necessarily, but it still hits people, right?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And that is squarely where we are in this. I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: don't know how it's going for the white delegation, but
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I can tell you for much of the black delegation,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the fact that this gentleman is lost it all behind
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that particular white woman in that particular station in life
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: is not going over well with the people. I do
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not know what he will have to do to get
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: sympathy from the folks. But as of right now, he's.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Got a long way to go.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: He's got a, he's got a, he's got a long,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he's got a really, really, really long way to go
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: to get the sympathy. I, um, I'm not going to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: tell that very good joke that I have in mind
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: because I just don't need the misinterpretation and the aggregation.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: But yes, he has a long way to go to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: get back because he lost it all behind this. And
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that was before we started hearing that he's that guy.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: What guy? That guy, right? The guy that get caught slipping,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: living in a college town, sleeping with the woman that
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: works in the office. Like, that's not a really uncommon story.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It's a bad idea and it's wrong. But there are
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: also a lot of romances that start with similar sorts
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: of stories, right? Like, I don't think people are that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: terribly offended by the idea that he had a relationship
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: with somebody in the office. But with the understanding that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: if you get caught, You know, you got to deal
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: with whatever comes.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It's an industry that leads itself to that situation.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Yes, it is. For a number of reasons,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for what it's worth, right? However, when the people find
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: out that apparently you be hitting them up on the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: OnlyFans and you were exchanging messages with the woman off
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the OnlyFans during the national championship game, per her telling,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: per her telling, just throwing that out there, and.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Clearly this man has a problem. Right? He has a
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: problem and then he went and bust up in this
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: woman's house, allegedly, with a knife, allegedly, threatening to do
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: harm to himself, allegedly. Meaning that there's a great chance
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that he's going to jail behind this. Like, not forever jail,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't... It seems totally in the cards that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he could wind up going to jail for this. I've
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: never seen any I can't name anything like this. I
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: have nothing comparable that comes to my mind in terms
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of what a... Every term seems corny, like fall from grace,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: whatever it is. All of these things just seem absurd
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: to bring up. However, if it makes them feel any better,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you're not going to go down alone because... If any
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of you have ever dreamed of being the athletic director
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: at the University of Michigan, I think you'll have a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: chance to put in an application, right? And I believe
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that you'll have this chance to put in an application
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: because apparently a man that they knew might not have
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: been all the way straight, they fired him for cause
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and only the athletic director was there with him. Now,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give Ward Manuel the benefit of the
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: doubt here. What if... He felt like he knew this
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: person and that he was afraid that things could get
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: worse if there was a lot of people around. And
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: he thought that that was the best way to manage
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the situation. I'm going to just tell you like this.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I done seen people walked out of the office after
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: getting fired for under far less combustible circumstances than these. Okay.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I've seen people make the argument that they should have
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: had mental health professionals there when he got fired. I'm
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: going to be honest with you. My imagination is not
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that good. I never would have thought about that. Right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Like I just I mean, it makes sense. I'm not
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: saying I'm not saying I don't hear you. I'm saying
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that I personally never would have thought about that. But
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: some big motherfucker to wrap him up. You know what
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? If things get a little wild, somebody like,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, because Sherrod Moore ain't small. He played offensive line.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? They got to be somebody
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: with a strength coach at ain't no way in the world.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I would have done that by myself. No, sir. Could
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not have been. Anyway, Ward Manuel chose to do that.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And then that man ran out of there, ran up
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: in that little white girl's house with a knife. You're
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: not you're not keeping your job after this. I just
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: want to know this. Ryan, what was that? The Wall
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Street Journal? Were you sending that link with the article?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the 24 hours.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just want you to hear with me,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: because I don't think I'm going to get this wrong,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: but just to make sure I say to get this right,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: this is a very important detail. They had done in previous...
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: This is not the only investigation, by the way, that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: they have done of Jerome Moore and his dealings with
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: women in the office, on campus, or whatever it is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: But....
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: They had done an investigation about his relationship with this
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: particular woman. And they had been in a relationship from
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: 2022 to 2024. And they didn't find any evidence. And
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the biggest reason they didn't have evidence is because she
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: said no and he said no. And I don't know
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: exactly what powers they have. They can ask people to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: turn over phones. I'm sure the company issued phones they
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: can or whatever. But I don't know exactly what they
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: could do. But they said their investigation said that there
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: was nothing to it. And then, out the blue this week,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: this woman calls up and decides to confess her sins.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: That's what the article in the Wall Street Journal said, right?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Am I expected to believe that she just decided to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: do this out of nowhere? I'm not saying that it
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: changes anything about the outcome, right? Or what there is
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: to say about more. What I am saying is, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: would like to know why that decision was made. Because
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: what's that line, Ryan? Just because you paranoid don't mean
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they ain't out to get you. Because they got, he
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: is got.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: He is as got as got has ever been. That
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: just seems to be an incredible turn of events. Like
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: who knows what it is that happened. In the 911 call,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the woman said that Moore had been stalking her right
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that is what what she said in the call um
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: maybe that if that's the case right maybe that led
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: to her calling and saying hey do this thing that'll
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: fire that dude I don't I don't know I don't
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: understand this but the fact that this just happened out
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of nowhere something tells me we're going to find out
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a lot did you see they're going to do an
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: investigation on of the whole... Yeah, everyone's getting.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It's going to be... I think it's going to be
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: more than just the AD.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I think it'll be more than just the AD, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: how thorough an investigation do you really think that this
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is going to be?
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean... Let's put it this way. They've been
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of investigations in that building recently. Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: So this is one thing, though, I think about with Michigan, though.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm curious your thoughts on this. So I've seen
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: the this is a, like, deeply corrupt program sort of arguments.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And I get that. But, right? I feel like these
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: things don't have that much to do with one another.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: So one thing that was interesting with Connor Stallion, the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: reason that Moore got suspended behind that is that he
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: deleted text messages before he turned his phone over, but
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: then he came off of those text messages and there
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: was nothing incriminating in them.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: They had that weird thing with the dude that was
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: stealing signs, and I'm sorry, it was wrong, but it's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: so funny that I can't find myself getting to that place.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: This right here, I don't know how exactly this ties
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in with the idea of a corrupt program right like
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this is weird things happen in offices like i don't
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: yes so i guess this is what i don't know
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: how many offices have a circumstance like this and what
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: is the likelihood under those circumstances that somebody tells or
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that something is actually done somebody in a boss-like capacity
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: is having a relationship with a subordinate i feel like
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: it's more likely that people let that slide than it
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: is that people enforce it. That's not to say that
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: But that's what, yes.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't find that to be an example
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: of a uniquely corrupt culture. within your within the athletic department.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, I'm not sure that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: that's the argument to make here, but that's what it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: going to be.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That's what they're going to have to overcome. And maybe
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Michigan is trying to do a truth and reconciliation before
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: the public. And they're going to go through all this
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: shit and they're going to tell everybody everything that was wrong.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But I didn't think that they were stupid. Right. Call
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: me cynical, but that doesn't seem like the smartest thing
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to like, these are not people of great honor. Okay.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what investigation is going to be.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're actually going to do. You
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: remember when the dolphins had the bullying situation and they
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: put together the blue ribbon committee and that committee still
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: ain't never had no meeting.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Like not one. Like, but they can't just win the
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: press conference here. Like that's not going to work. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: do think that now that they've said it, they're going
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to have to come up with something. But consultants generally
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: are people you pay to tell you to do what
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you already wanted to do. This, no matter who the
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: investigation is, this is an example of the consulting business.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: That's what they are going to have. They're going to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: run through this and they're going to come back and
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: be like, you know what? It's actually not as bad
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: as we thought. It's crazy, right? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: You know, but we wanted to go back here and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: make sure everything was okay. Yeah, yeah. We're going to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: be fine.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Like, It's actually funny, Ryan. As we talked about this more,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I had in my head envisioned, because I don't do
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it like I did it when I was a youngster
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: in this business, but I like a little dark humor.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have a fairly sophisticated understanding of
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the edge and where you can stand and talk on
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: these things. I will say that this case has tested
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: at many points. My question of Is this funny? Not
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: so much the macro. The big, is this funny? Because
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: that actually is not. But there's little funnies along, little
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: potential funnies, I think, that I had seen along the way.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: And in my edgy brain, I was like, yeah, I'm
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: going to get in here. Maybe we going. No, I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: started feeling less and less funny. The more I thought
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: about him sitting there in that rubber room.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this isn't. This, no, no, no.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: This isn't.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: No.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Like, this is.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine if this were a story about a
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: coach that we were more familiar with?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: No. This was A1A1 from Wednesday, like, really until that
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: home story is ACL.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but imagine if this was, and I'm just throwing
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: a name out, right? Imagine if this was Jimbo Fisher.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Like, I'm not even talking about Nick Saban, right? I'm
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: not even talking about, like, Dabo or, like, a super
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: famous coach or Kirby Smart. Just somebody that, oh, I
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: remember him, right?
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Imagine it's Jimbo Fisher that did this.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: What?
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Like, we don't even know who this guy is, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: he has America captivated.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Like, actually, who is the coach that you would be
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the most shocked?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Kirby's up there. Kirby's up there. Did you see the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Nick Saban quote going around?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I did not. What was it?
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Let me pull this up. I want to make sure
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I get this right. It's about, you know, Nick Saban's.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, from the book?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: From the book.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Oh, I do know that quote. If you can send
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the screen cap to me, I will read it word
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: for word because this story has been denied. And, um,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: so what?
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: So what? It's funny.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: We, we like it better. And he's basically, he's in
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the locker room with the dudes at LSU. And honestly, man,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: this is the kind of story that like this, this like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: maybe this is a man that you let raise your son,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you know, help your son become a man. Like he,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: he hitting them with some true gang.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: And he was talking about dealing with women and, you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: these young boys in college. And I do remember that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: before this excerpt, there's something where he's like, he's, He's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: using like the P word in his discussion of like
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: talking about dealing with women. He's just, you know, he
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: hitting them with some true game. And he says here
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: that ultimately you never want to sleep with anybody who
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: has less to lose than you do. So ultimately, if
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I'm ever going to sleep around on Miss Terry, it's
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: going to be with Hillary fucking Rodham Clinton.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Now that's funny.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. That's, that's, That's because somebody put together an
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: AI video of Nick Saban telling that to Sherrod... Sherone Moore. Sorry, sorry.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I was about to call him Senator Moore. It's the
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• 37:34
  Speaker 2: All right, Bo, let's get to some more stories from
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the weekend. Phillip Rivers actually played. They almost beat the Seahawks.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: He was 8 for 27, 120 yards, touchdown, and an interception.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: But what was your biggest takeaway from seeing the 44-year-old
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: returning to the NFL?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: All right, man. As long as he didn't die. All right?
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: But I watched a couple drives, and he is a
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Larry Holmes all-star, man. Like, he's looking flabby as sick.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So the thing about, I feel like the guy that
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: comes back at this age is typically either going to be, like,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: in your mind. Or like when you do the movie.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Like a Kenny Stabler type that you imagine who's just
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: been smoking cigarettes and drinking Miller High Life, right? And
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: then they call him and he's like, all right, you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I'll come out here and play a game like smoking
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: a cigarette on the sideline. Or something like Jack LaLanne type. Right.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: That's just like, you know, an incredible shape. It always
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: ready for it. Dead ass in the middle is Phillip Rivers.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It looked like he ain't never done a push up
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in his life. Right. Like I work out for playing
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: football by playing football. He always had that funny shot
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: put motion and everything else. But he was always a
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: highly entertaining watch. Right. He talked cash shit out there
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: to people, and he got it done, man. You know,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: only invariably for the Chargers to blow a late lead,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: and all his efforts were for naught. And what do
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know? All he did today was a far less
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: entertaining version of that right there, because it was not
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: a fun watch. It wasn't a sad watch. It was
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: really insulting to Riley Leonard. I think that's the best
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: way that I could put it. It was just kind
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of confusing why he was even out there. That's probably
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the best way that I could put it. It was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: just confusing. But he had this... ahead at the end,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: only for them to give up a field goal and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to lose the game.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Are we at the point where we ask some questions
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks? Cause this game should not have been
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: this close.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I cannot i could not take my eyes off of
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: it i i with all due respect i just disagree
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: i thought really it was strangely compelling i understand like
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: if the idea of like secondhand embarrassment like not being
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: able to watch but it looked like a mix of
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: like like someone like, you know, like a backyard football game, right?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Telling stories about how they were all 20 years.
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: I just couldn't get anything out of it. Cause the
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: balls was taking so long to get there. He was
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: throwing the lollipops over there, Jack. Like it was just,
• 40:21
  Speaker 7: and they weren't like snatching them and running them back. Like,
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: I think that was the thing is like, if he
• 40:26
  Speaker 7: was going to be bad, I needed to be all
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: the way bad.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Like he needed to be on some Peter man. He
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: ain't give us none of that. It was just kind of,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: it was nondescript. rip it was he might be back
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: out there he got that's what i'm saying riley letter
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: nope don't want to make that joke riley but riley
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: letter should be very upset if they were to to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: to do that um i just i was surprised to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: see people my age who were saying how they were
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: like root I guess I don't view myself the same
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: way that these other middle-aged people view themselves. Right.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Like, Oh, I did not find it inspirational. I found
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: it very, very funny. I did not find this inspiring
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: at all. I was not rooting for him. I thought
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: this is stupid.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm just, I.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Was, I turned in to Adrian from the Rocky movies.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Like you can't win.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just hoping he doesn't get turned to dust.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Oh man. That's great. All right. Uh, In not-so-great football news,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the Rams beat America's team 41-34 in a shootout we
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: mentioned earlier. Devontae Adams went down with a hamstring injury.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Puka Dekua left with an injury. Bo, your thoughts watching
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: this game?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Dropping like flies. Like, I actually, it was
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a game that reminded me why I chose this as
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the team to rule for. Even with them not winning.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: They go, man. Like, they're down so many dudes already
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: going into this game, right? Down both safeties. I think
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: this is the most recent development. And that was just
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a at least for the first three quarters. It wasn't
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: as great at the end. This was an incredible game
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to watch. It was highly entertaining. Jared Goff played really,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: really well. But, you know, looks like the Lions are
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: not going to make playoffs this year. And you know what?
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's cool. Me and Nick, I'm going
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: to go to his house during the playoffs and we're
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: just going to be over there hating. we're just gonna
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: be hating for a muff that's all we're gonna be
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: doing right but hey man it's dropping like fly season
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: like i mean you just look around everywhere you go
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: man everybody's dropping like flies there's gonna be a lot
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: of this is just who can hang who can persevere
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: but that's where we are.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: All right uh going to college football now kalen the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: boar says he is not leaving alabama he said in
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: the statement uh We have an incredible opportunity in front
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: of us, so my sole focus is on Alabama football
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: and our preparations to play Oklahoma. I have not spoken,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: have no interest in speaking with anyone else about any
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: other job. I'm fully committed to this program and look
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: forward to continuing as the head coach of the University
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: of Alabama. Beau, were you surprised?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I thought that that was a very strong, strident, while
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: simultaneously challenging, Legally non-binding statement.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Sounds like he's negotiating for an extension.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Those reports are coming out about it. I
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: just want to see how he feels after this game
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: against Oklahoma.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Same.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Which could go either way. It's going to be blazing
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: hot for you if you don't. Now, I will say
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: this also. Something that I think is interesting about the
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: playoff that isn't quite discussed. Because I've seen people make
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: the argument. Because Alabama lost four games last year, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: want to say, and they have lost three games so
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: far this year. That means in all likelihood they're going
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to lose four games this year.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Almost certainly, yes.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: One thing this playoff does is add to the number
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: of good teams assured to end their season with a loss.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: And nothing makes your season feel worse than ending it
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: with a loss.
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: That's a thing. And that's kind of what's happening here.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Like if they were just going to the Capital One
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Bowl and got to score up against Wisconsin. Well, not
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin this year, but, you know, somebody like that and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: come out of there with a dub. I think this
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: might have gone over a little different. He better win
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: this game against Oklahoma, basically, is the thing that I'm
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: saying right now.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Again, the monster has not been revved back up. But
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: we looked at that contract, right? It's like 70 something
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: million dollars to buy him out. It's like three if
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: he leaves.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So it's something impossible.
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Like if he leaves on his own, it's something like
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: $ 4 million. Like I, and I respect Alabama on that front. Like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like we ain't going to keep you here except here.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: They are apparently negotiating this extension. Cause they know that job. They,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: they know they got a crazy job. And if I'm DeBoer,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: I guess the problem right now at Michigan is that
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: they in the midst of chaos, but I would definitely
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: listen to what they had to say.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. All right. And moving to the NBA, uh, semifinals
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: of the NBA Cup. The Spurs upset the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Wimbyama made his return to action. He had some words
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: for SGA after the game. Let's take a listen. I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: just glad to be part of something that's growing to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: be so beautiful and so pure and ethical basketball, you know?
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. Did you watch this game?
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: I saw clips. I did not see the game.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, me and my brother watched this game. Victor Wimbanyama
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: played seven minutes in the first half. His plus minus
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: was plus 20. It was unreal watching the one-man impact
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that he had on this game.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: Against the overwhelmingly best team in the NBA.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly best team in the NBA. He hates them.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. He hates them and he hates Chet.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: He hates Chet, number one, right? Like Chet's missing free throws.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: He's clapping at the, you know, he hates them. But
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that clip right there about ethical basketball, that's him talking
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: about the Thunder and how the Thunder be cheating, right?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Now the Thunder have a very interesting approach when playing
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: against him, which is he's seven feet five and they
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: just try to take his rock every time he dribbles.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: As soon as he dribbles, Caruso's going for it. I
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: would not be surprised to find out that the Thunder
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: practice the peanut punch in practice because they just they're
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: just going for the ball. They go for the ball
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like you do when you're too young to be playing
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: basketball against the age level of people that's out there.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the only hope you have is to try
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: to take the ball like that's what they're doing. But
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: he doesn't like them. And it's so great because with him,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: maybe they could challenge the Thunder. The Thunder, I think,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: are going to win 70 games this year. There's a
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: good chance they could break the wins record. There are
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: teams that could challenge them. Denver, I think, can give
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: them a challenge. We're going to see what Houston ultimately is.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: But this one right here is the rivalry, right? And
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: what they did, and I'd say this also about Knicks magic,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but it's very important, that NBA Cup felt like something.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Like in watching that game, it felt like a big game.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's tied to the event or
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: is simply tied to the way that these teams feel
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: about each other. But these teams feel a way about
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: each other. And it starts with the fact, I was
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: talking to my man Jason about this. He made a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: great point. He was like, can you imagine how unserious
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Victor believes that Chet is?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Right? Like, Chet out here on his B-rad. Victor goes
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to hang out with the Shaolin monks. And y'all tried
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: to say he was better than me? Oh, my goodness.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to be like just for a long time
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: with these teams. I love it.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: All right, Bo. Voicemails. A lot of good ones. Here's
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: our first.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, Bo.
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: This is Tony from Las Vegas.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: Long time listener.
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: First time caller.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I know what you do.
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: So I've been listening to you guys long enough to
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: know the original story of Lawrence Fishburne.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: leads me to a question because it kind of reminds
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: me of your disdain you have for Lane Kiffin. So
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: the question I have is, who do you like, who
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: do you dislike more? Lawrence Fishburne, Lane Kiffin, Stringer Bell,
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: or the New Orleans Saints? Thanks for your time, bro.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Keep doing what you're doing.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: You know, the best part about Stringer Bell not being
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: a real person is I don't have to respect his humanity.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: That allows me to lean all the way in. I'm like,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you know what, though? Once you put Lane Kiffin in this,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a tougher call. My issue
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: with Lawrence Fishburne, I don't know if he a bad person, necessarily.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I just felt like, for those of you who don't know,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I was working at Press Junket once in the year
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: of our Lord, 2003, at the, I believe it was
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. And the way Press Junket works is,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they do it two different ways. Oh, no, it's Anyway,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you put a bunch of reporters in one room or
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: at one table, like six or seven. It's like for
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a movie cast, you rotate the cast around to the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: table so it's like a bunch of mini press conferences
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and this allows you to you know get more work
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: done going around the room and so i was there
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: to do an interview with somebody else And they sat
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Fishburne down at the table. And so I wasn't
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: really paying no attention to him. And he tried to
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: call me out and make me ask him a question.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: And I did. And it was a good question, too.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was. And that jerk was just.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Like, no.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And just tried to play me in front of all
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: these people. It was white people, too. Like, I just
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: didn't really believe that that was appropriate behavior coming from him. But,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you know, the world got him back.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: But that was just one day. You know what I mean? Like, that's,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you know, I can't say that I don't approve of
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: what he stands for. Like, I don't approve of what
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Stringer Bell stands for or what Lane... Stringer Bell is
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the answer. Stringer... I feel like Lane Kiffin and Stringer
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Bell got a lot in common, though.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting year. All right, here's
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: our next one. What's up, Omani?
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: This is Cordae from the Bay. Uh....
• 50:29
  Speaker 5: It's a follow-up to the voicemail you played.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not adopted.
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: This was my grandpa's idea. I know you from Houston, Texas.
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: My grandpa's from Dallas, Texas. I don't know if that
• 50:42
  Speaker 5: got anything to do with it, but also my grandpa
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: looks like James Brown except he's 6'2 and a truck driver. Yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: You got a perm?
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: So after we– so it was his idea to all
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: of a sudden start going– to Yosemite, and we hadn't
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: went in years. So we decided, oh, let's go when
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: y'all all are 18. And that's when we missed the bear,
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: stuff like that. That was the last time my family went,
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: because my mom was like, I ain't dealing with this
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: stress again. But my dumb self, my dumb self, went
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: the next year with some non-black people and woke up
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: one morning to the sound of bear. Again, but I
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: was in my tent, and I was with some non-black people,
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: and they was like, Bear, let's get out. I was like, no, wait.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Waited like two minutes. I was like, no, let's wait again.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I was like, let's just wait. Precautionary. Then we eventually
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: got out of our tent, and when we got out
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: of our tent, someone yelled, hey, good thing y'all didn't
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: get out of y'all's tent, because the bear was right
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: in front of y'all's tent. And that was the last
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: time I went to Yosemite.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: That's Cordae from the Bay.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: So those of you Cordae from the Bay last week
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: told us a story about how he was fortunate. He
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: went to take a walk, shall we say, and while
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: he was gone, the bear had come and they was
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: at Yosemite. And I was trying to figure out what
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: was going on with these black people at Yosemite. And
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: he gave the answer. And then he just said that
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: he went with some non-black people to Yosemite. And he said,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: what happened? And, um, I will just tell you, tying
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: back to the conversation we were having a little bit earlier, um,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: if my spotty senses are correct, and he's talking about
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: he was out there in the woods with these non-white people,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: if the bear had ate him, they'd have put him
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: in one of them memes that I've been seeing going
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: around with Sherrod Moore. Who else? They put Mel Tucker
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: in the picture.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Who else?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Who else they have in there? But if you had
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: got ate by a bear because you was in the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: woods with some non-white people, I get the feeling you'd
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: have been on the same list.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: All right, here's our last one.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Hey, Bo, first time, long time from the wild to
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: northern Michigan. I met my wife in the wilderness of
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: northern New Mexico at the World's Largest View Camp in Cimarron,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: New Mexico. And so I was not walking with my cousins,
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: but I was walking with my future wife into the woods.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: And we were doing things that young people do when
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: they get away from, you know, Nature taking its course. And,
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: you know, bears are known for two things. One is,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: you know, terrible eyesight and an excellent sense of smell.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: So I can just imagine what this bear saw on
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: the ground, writhing and also smelling, probably something like it.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: And I looked up and I saw this big old bull,
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: the bear. come walking up towards us. And I got
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: right up, had to protect my lady, threw my overalls on,
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: and I started yelling and screaming, and, hey, bear, get
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: out of here, as is the custom when you see
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: a bear such as that in your area. And I'm
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: waving my hands, and that old boy just kind of
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: stopped and made a different direction. He did not change pace.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: He was not scared. He didn't care about me at all,
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: but he knew that that he needed to just keep walking.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: And I was a lucky man that day, that's for sure.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Ryan, the last thing I expected was that voice, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: everything kept getting even more and more unexpected. It built
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: to such an amazing crescendo of defying expectations.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: He just threw in, went to the world's largest youth
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: camp as an aside.
• 54:51
  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, yes, he did, he did. And also, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: don't think he knows what kind of walk. Hey, shout out.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: To you, Big Dog.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: He was having a great time.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: You was making it happen. But shout out to you
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: also for throwing all your overalls. That wouldn't have been.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: He's at extremely northern Michigan. I'm assuming that means the
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: upper peninsula. And I don't know if you know about
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: that place.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, I look. That is one of those
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I need to look up, like how that works.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: But wow, that was an amazing story. I appreciate that, man. Hey,
• 55:32
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