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A City in Crisis and the Power of Faith · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the vowels of the city that Never sleeps.
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  Speaker 5: It's Kevin McCullough Monday through Friday on That.
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  Speaker 5: And now from the Connors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios. A
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  Speaker 5: man who is not what he wants to be, but
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  Speaker 5: is way grateful that is not who he used to be.
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  Speaker 5: Here the.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I'll hello that, thank you with us. Welcome
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  Speaker 2: in as we are saying this, hearing this, broadcasting this.
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  Speaker 2: We are in the middle here in Manhattan of a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of a crisis because in the middle of midtown,
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  Speaker 2: one of the high rise buildings near Grand Central Terminal
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  Speaker 2: was evacuated this morning, and authorities say it was at
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  Speaker 2: risk of collapsing. Officials with the New York Fire Department
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  Speaker 2: said they got call about three minutes to eight this
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  Speaker 2: morning some falling bricks at two thirty five East forty
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  Speaker 2: second Street. The building was once the corporate headquarters for
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  Speaker 2: the pharmaceutical company Pfiser, which had moved to the Spiral
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  Speaker 2: and Hudson Yards back in twenty eighteen. But what we're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with is a thirty eight story building sagging between
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  Speaker 2: the twenty first and twenty six floors, according to the
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  Speaker 2: FDNY and first responders also noting two columns buckled between
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  Speaker 2: the twenty first and the twenty second floors. So firefighters
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  Speaker 2: on the scene, people investigating. They have evacuated not just
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  Speaker 2: that building itself, but also several of the surrounding buildings.
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  Speaker 2: It's in the process of being converted into an apartment
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  Speaker 2: complex with more than sixteen hundred units. Six other buildings
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  Speaker 2: also evacuated as a precaution, according to fire officials, no
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  Speaker 2: injuries thus far, no deaths, anything like that, but the
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  Speaker 2: officials with the city's Department of Buildings on the scene
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  Speaker 2: and using drones to examine. Mayor Zoron Mamdani addressed the
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  Speaker 2: situation at an unrelated press conference, saying that a school
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  Speaker 2: with about four hundred children inside was also evacuated. Most
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  Speaker 2: of forty second and forty third streets between First and
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  Speaker 2: Second Avenues also shut down. So it's just a very
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  Speaker 2: unfortunate series of events. We will keep our eye on it.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully there will be no further damage, but if there
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  Speaker 2: is and we need to interrupt, we will do that.
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  Speaker 2: But it also reminds me, and I was just thinking
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  Speaker 2: about this the other day. Actually, I was thinking about
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  Speaker 2: this as I was watching the fourth of July ships
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  Speaker 2: and planes come into New York City. You know, when
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  Speaker 2: you live in a big, big, developed city like New
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  Speaker 2: York and Manhattan in particular, you get so accustomed to
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  Speaker 2: the kind of institutions that are there, the buildings that
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  Speaker 2: are there, the granite, the marble, the concrete, and you
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  Speaker 2: feel like that this is in some ways, you know, indestructible.
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  Speaker 2: But for some reason, after nine to eleven, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: quite feel like that anymore. And I have often wondered
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  Speaker 2: to myself, mostly quietly, for people that are in these
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  Speaker 2: enormous buildings, you go to bed every night on faith,
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  Speaker 2: on faith that the earth's not going to move, on
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  Speaker 2: faith that you know that all those floors above you
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  Speaker 2: are going to be there, or that all those floors
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  Speaker 2: underneath you are going to support you and you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to be blown over. Like there's there's a certain
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  Speaker 2: degree of confidence that I think you just you just
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  Speaker 2: take with you. You know, our our radio station is
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  Speaker 2: only on the third floor of the building that it's in,
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  Speaker 2: and it only has eight or nine, maybe ten eleven
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  Speaker 2: floor something like that, so you don't feel like you're
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  Speaker 2: in a big, big building. But I've wondered, we've built
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  Speaker 2: a couple of those enormous skyscrapers now that are apartment buildings,
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I asked. I asked the Lovely Bride
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  Speaker 2: when we had a weekend away a couple of weekends ago,
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  Speaker 2: we went into the city for a couple of nights
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  Speaker 2: and we saw one of them and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: would you ever live in that? And she looked at
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  Speaker 2: me like, are you crazy? No, But we both have
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  Speaker 2: a considerable fear of heights, so it's not something that
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I'll go up in a building, I'll look
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  Speaker 2: out the window. I've been to the top of all
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  Speaker 2: the tallest buildings in New York. I've been out on
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  Speaker 2: the observation deck of some of them. The Empire, State Building, etc.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't bother me. But I think if I was hunkering
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  Speaker 2: down for the night every night, I would be asking
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  Speaker 2: God to protect the columns and the bricks and the
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  Speaker 2: structure and all the stuff that we need help protecting
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  Speaker 2: in that in that environment. Because we are but a
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  Speaker 2: spec friends, our lives are are but a speck on
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  Speaker 2: the on the scale of the universe, on the scale
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  Speaker 2: of eternity, on the scale of everything that's around us.
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  Speaker 2: Our lives are so tiny and minuscule and almost insignificant.
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  Speaker 2: And that makes what I'm about to say even more spectacular,
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  Speaker 2: because in our minuscule nests, in our tininess, in our
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  Speaker 2: ability to be squashed like an ant ness, the God
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  Speaker 2: of the universe, who created everything, who spoke and it
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  Speaker 2: all came into existence, who just said, let there be light,
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  Speaker 2: and boom, there were stars and light and everything, you know,
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  Speaker 2: everything we needed by way of light. That that God
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  Speaker 2: knows you and I intimately and personally and very strongly
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  Speaker 2: wants to be, you know, exactly what we need them
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  Speaker 2: to be, which is our savior and our our God.
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  Speaker 2: The building was leaning, I guess at one point it's
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  Speaker 2: said to be possibly on the verge of collapse. People
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  Speaker 2: have been taken out, and they're evacuating portions of Midtown.
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  Speaker 2: If you live in a building next to the old
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  Speaker 2: Pfizer building, you very well might not have an apartment
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  Speaker 2: to go home to tonight just because of the evacuations.
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  Speaker 2: So it'll be interesting to see and exactly how long
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  Speaker 2: they'll need to make these repairs and so forth, if
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  Speaker 2: they if they even can, you know, they may have
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  Speaker 2: to just I don't know what, take it down. So
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not that's not great. There's other there's some
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  Speaker 2: other big news that we're going to get to throughout
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  Speaker 2: the show today, and we've also got a very special
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  Speaker 2: set of guests. We are going to speak with Zachary
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  Speaker 2: Marshall from Campus Reform later this hour. There's a new
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  Speaker 2: push to maybe turn a four year bachelor's degree into
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  Speaker 2: only three years and getting it done quicker. What it
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  Speaker 2: would save students by way of enrollment costs and everything
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  Speaker 2: else is enormous, So we'll talk with them about that.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Katie McFarland who's going to give us the
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  Speaker 2: very latest on the NATO summit that's going on. President
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  Speaker 2: Trump is there, he doesn't want to be what is
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  Speaker 2: he going to say? How's it going to go? We'll
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  Speaker 2: ask Katie McFarlane, And then a little bit later on
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  Speaker 2: Mike Gonzales from the Heritage Foundation. A brand new report
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  Speaker 2: called the Smithsonian Report has been released, and it's demonstrating
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  Speaker 2: all of the ways that the curators at the Smithsonian,
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  Speaker 2: which is a public museum, have twisted the narrative to
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  Speaker 2: turn America into a woke piece of garbage. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't I'm not overstating that. That's all straight ahead. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Joel Grossei's going to join me once again for
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  Speaker 2: how do we live when we come back from this break?
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  Speaker 2: As we are looking at Matthew chapter eleven and Jesus's
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  Speaker 2: remarkable statement saying the Gospel will be heard by the poor.
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  Speaker 2: That may not sound super profound or intriguing, but yesterday
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  Speaker 2: we kind of dug into a little bit as to why,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to take that discussion one more layer
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  Speaker 2: today because it's worth having and we want to answer
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  Speaker 2: the question, how do we live? How do we live
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  Speaker 2: in a culture that really has no use for us
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  Speaker 2: or our faith? What does that change what our assignment is?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. We we'll talk about it with
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  Speaker 2: doctor Joel Grossi coming up next. It's that Kevin Show,
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  Speaker 1: Here he is from New York, Ken Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome man, it's the Tuesday edition. Glad you're with us.
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  Speaker 2: of the show where we ask the big question, how
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  Speaker 2: do we live? How do we live in the context
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  Speaker 2: of a culture that at the very minimum has really
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  Speaker 2: no use for God at the worst, kind of hates him,
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  Speaker 2: thinks the same of us, and really despises God's word. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's why we get together at this point in the
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  Speaker 2: show each day and ask the big question, how do
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  Speaker 2: we live? We do so with great teachers from across
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  Speaker 2: the country, and doctor Joel Grossi from Commonwealth Baptist Church
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  Speaker 2: in the Bronx, New York, is back with us and
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  Speaker 2: we started a discussion yesterday Joel about what Jesus says
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  Speaker 2: in Matthew eleven, which I think was new to a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people. I think a lot of people say,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever noted that before, where
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  Speaker 2: he says the good News is proclaimed to the poor.
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  Speaker 2: That's the NIV version. The good News is proclaimed the poor.
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  Speaker 2: The Gospel is preached to the poor. Is how another
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  Speaker 2: version puts it. Where do we go from his proclamation
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  Speaker 2: from yesterday?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks so much, Kevin. You know, it's interesting, I
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  Speaker 6: think most of us have a perception of the Lord
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  Speaker 6: Jesus where we can't picture him growing up privileged or
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  Speaker 6: with a silver spoon in his mouth. Obviously, and in fact,
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  Speaker 6: probably most people tend to think of him on the
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  Speaker 6: other side of, you know, the economic spectrum, growing up impoverished.
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  Speaker 6: Some people even think of him as whole homeless. But
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  Speaker 6: it's interesting. In the very next couple chapters, Matthew's going
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  Speaker 6: to describe him as the carpenter and Mark's going to
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  Speaker 6: call him the carpenter's son. And we realized that the
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  Speaker 6: Lord Jesus spent time investing in the learning of a
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  Speaker 6: trade and was part of the economic system of his
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  Speaker 6: day and was basically just like every one of us,
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  Speaker 6: working for a paycheck. And I think that when we
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  Speaker 6: kind of have that perspective of who the Lord Jesus was,
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  Speaker 6: it helps us take the Gospel out of the four
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  Speaker 6: walls of our churches where we are used to hearing
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  Speaker 6: it and comfortable and realize the Lord Jesus, for many years,
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  Speaker 6: had to get up Monday morning, go to work, maybe
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  Speaker 6: be next to some people that he wasn't all that
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  Speaker 6: comfortable with or you know, we're exactly best friends.
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  Speaker 7: With, and had to rub shoulders with these.
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  Speaker 6: People nine five making an income using his skills. And
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  Speaker 6: that is where we really can be the salt of
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  Speaker 6: the earth and the light of the world as we
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  Speaker 6: integrate with our economic world and our society that we're
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  Speaker 6: part of.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of layers to that. Let's drill down.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it significant that he learned to trade and
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  Speaker 2: that he chose carpentry.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fascinating. I mean, I think obviously, back in
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  Speaker 6: those days the family business was how so many people
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  Speaker 6: thought and operated. Obviously, when you hear about the disciples,
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  Speaker 6: there are fishermen.
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  Speaker 7: Who are you know, the.
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  Speaker 6: Sons of Zebedee who was a fisherman. So there's obviously
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  Speaker 6: that kind of ancient practice of passing down the family business.
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  Speaker 6: But I also think it just reminds us of some
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  Speaker 6: of these passages like Second Thessalonians, chapter three and verse ten,
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  Speaker 6: which says if any would not work, neither should he eat.
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  Speaker 6: And I think sometimes we have the wrong perspective that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, work was part of the curse and that
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  Speaker 6: after Adam and Eve sind then they had all.
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  Speaker 8: This work to do.
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  Speaker 6: But if you read those texts carefully, the Lord always
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  Speaker 6: intended mankind to be involved in work, to tend to
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  Speaker 6: the garden, to be using his resources, and be good
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  Speaker 6: steward of his time and energy. And this is what
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  Speaker 6: honors God. And it gives us a perspective here that
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  Speaker 6: you know, we really while there are definitely economic challenges,
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  Speaker 6: the old saying God helps those who help themselves.
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  Speaker 7: Has a lot of truth to it.
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  Speaker 6: God expects of us to be good stewards of what
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  Speaker 6: He's given us to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of see that issue in two kind
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  Speaker 2: of prisms, and one is what you just said, be
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  Speaker 2: a good steward of what we do earn, because once
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  Speaker 2: we have earned it, there is there becomes a moral
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  Speaker 2: responsibility as to how we go about using it. I
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  Speaker 2: was noting yesterday on the show that you Know Elon
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  Speaker 2: Musk recently became the world's first trillionaire, and the Mayor
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  Speaker 2: of New York made this big hullabaloo about you know
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  Speaker 2: how the trillionaire just once more and kind of overlooked
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  Speaker 2: the fact that on his way to making and he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have a trillion dollars in actual cash. He has
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  Speaker 2: holdings and companies and properties and lots of different things
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  Speaker 2: that add up to that. But along the way of
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  Speaker 2: getting there, he also created developed, produced things before they
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  Speaker 2: were needed. He came up with the first working electric car,
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  Speaker 2: He created the first private space corporation. You know, there
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  Speaker 2: are things that he did with his time, energy, focus,
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  Speaker 2: and attention to detail that also then created jobs for
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  Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of workers. Across the years, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it's just a kind of a myopic way of
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  Speaker 2: looking at it to say this one man is just
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  Speaker 2: kind of sitting on this pile of money, when actually
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  Speaker 2: what he did was adopt this very idea of what
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  Speaker 2: do I have, how do I steward it, how do
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  Speaker 2: I grow it? What do I do to solve some
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  Speaker 2: of the problems of the community of the world around me,
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  Speaker 2: Similar to being a carpenter. He didn't build homes, he
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  Speaker 2: built cars in spaceships. But there are things that we
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  Speaker 2: will gain from some of the research that's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen in space that you know, we still don't even
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  Speaker 2: begin to understand. And it's not just Elon Musk, it's
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  Speaker 2: you and me. It's what we have to do today.
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  Speaker 2: Are we doing what we can with what we earn
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  Speaker 2: to be a good steward? But that's the one prison.
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  Speaker 2: The second prism I think about is the importance of
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  Speaker 2: what you just said. Work is not a curse. Work
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  Speaker 2: is a blessing. We were designed to fulfill certain skill
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  Speaker 2: sets and certain missions and certain things that God kind
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  Speaker 2: of uniquely puts in our DNA. I'm not really that
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  Speaker 2: handy of a handy man my father in law is
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  Speaker 2: other people that I know truly are I can do
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  Speaker 2: the basic things. I can change a tire or a
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  Speaker 2: spark plug or you know, some of those types of things.
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  Speaker 2: But but you know, I also write and broadcast and
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  Speaker 2: do other things that my carpenter friends can't. And so
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  Speaker 2: what is it that God has wired us to do?
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  Speaker 2: And how good of a steward are we being with
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  Speaker 2: what we earn from those skills?
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  Speaker 6: Such a great point. I'm glad you bring up Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 6: I did on our YouTube channel. I did an analysis
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  Speaker 6: of biblical analysis of space X and I emailed it
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  Speaker 6: over to Elon. I don't know if you saw it yet,
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  Speaker 6: did not, haven't heard back. Yeah, but anyway, it's a
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  Speaker 6: good point. You know, when you think about things like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, to let's take one of the things with
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  Speaker 6: the space X and with the space exploration. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: obviously that's an industry that just by its very nature
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  Speaker 6: is going to be you know, out of our stratosphere. Conceptually,
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  Speaker 6: the average person we can't think in those terms of
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  Speaker 6: billions and trillions and light years and all that. But
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  Speaker 6: there's there's ultimately that work ethic that gets you to
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  Speaker 6: that place. Where you're now able to actually be thinking
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  Speaker 6: about reaching the stars in the first right. And so
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  Speaker 6: you know, obviously it all starts somewhere. I think it's
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  Speaker 6: that balance, Kevin. I think, like we said, you know,
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  Speaker 6: being rich in and of itself is not sinful, but
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  Speaker 6: it's the coveteousness. It's a heart issue, correct. And you
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  Speaker 6: could be a trillionaire, you could be mayor of New York,
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  Speaker 6: you could be just a pastor like me in the Bronx.
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  Speaker 6: We all have to look at our hearts and say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: who's our God? Do we have idols coming before God?
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  Speaker 6: We Are we worshiping the Mammon of this age and
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  Speaker 6: the things? Or are we ultimately saying Lord, the Lord
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  Speaker 6: giveth and the Lord taketh away? You know, blessed to
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  Speaker 6: be the name of the Lord. This is this ought
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  Speaker 6: to be our perspective here, regardless of where we find
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  Speaker 6: ourselves on this spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I think that that's the important part. That
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  Speaker 2: the principle applies to everyone. Whether I make two dollars,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand dollars, two million dollars, my faithfulness, my obedience,
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  Speaker 2: my obligation to work hard and be a good steward,
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  Speaker 2: isn't reduced like I'm still responsible. It's because I make
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  Speaker 2: a lot less than n Elon doesn't mean I can
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  Speaker 2: just go be silly with it. You know, I have
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  Speaker 2: a responsibility to feed my family to I believe it's
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  Speaker 2: every believer's obligation to help fund their local church and
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  Speaker 2: make sure that the gospel is being preached locally. But
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  Speaker 2: I also have a big heart for these organizations that
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  Speaker 2: I advocate for on the show, and I give to
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  Speaker 2: every one of them personally. And I want the Gospel
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  Speaker 2: to go around the world. That's the Christian's duty. It's
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  Speaker 2: our job to see to it that these things happen.
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  Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if you can only give twenty
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  Speaker 2: cents or two bucks, or twenty dollars or you know again,
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  Speaker 2: two million dollars. It's not the amount that matters. It
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  Speaker 2: is the heart, It is the it is the obedience,
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  Speaker 2: it is the willingness to do what He has called
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  Speaker 2: us to do.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean as where the rubber meets the road
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: for all of us is we can look at the
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  Speaker 6: wealthy and the powerful of this age and have whatever
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: feelings and attitude towards them we have. But the question
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  Speaker 6: is on Sunday. Am I am I am I putting
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  Speaker 6: into the offering?
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Right? You know?
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  Speaker 2: Do I have the right attitude about me? Yeah? Well
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: it's it's interesting. So friends, we've just gotten started on
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: this idea. But the gospel is going to the poor
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: per Jesus instructions in Matthew chapter eleven. And one of
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the ways that this is impacted is how Jesus took
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: on himself the nature of being someone who worked with
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: his hands and was, in fact the carpenter. Doctor Joel Rossi,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Senior Pastor at Commonwealth Baptist Church in the Bronx. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: will talk to you again tomorrow. Thank you for these insights.
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  Speaker 8: Looking forward to it. Kevin, thank you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Same here Kevin mccallaugh, coming right back, nunkle, while.
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  Speaker 1: Stick around for more of that.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Next here he is from New York. That Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough, had you with us, so grateful
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: for you to be here. We had some breaking news
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: happen earlier today and it was this the fella that
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: is the Democratic Socialist Marxist Nazi running for Senate in Maine,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Graham Plattner. I think is his name, has had some
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: pretty horrific allegations leveled against him, and there are some
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: people that are calling others to account over all of this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: John Fetterman, who is a Democrat, but he seems to
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: be more of a common sense guy. He's he's kind
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of centrist in the party. He's actually helped President Trump
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: get a few things done. He has basically laid into
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders, saying that after these new explosive allegations, that
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders should apologize for having endorsed him. Fetterman said Monday,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I really, I would really call Bernie Sanders to apologize
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: for pushing this kind of predator more than anyone. He
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: helped him become the Democratic nominee, and now he should
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: apologize to the victims, especially the woman that claimed that
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: he raped her. I don't know why you would want
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to keep pushing these kinds of people, said Fetterman. Plattner's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Senate hopes are on life support after Jenny Rassicott alleged
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that he sexually assaulted her. In interviews with Politico, n CNN.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Racicott claims that the Senate hopeful inner at her home uninvited, intoxicated,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: five years ago forced himself on her multiple times. Rescott
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: was who was seeing Platner on and off at the time,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: told Politico she immediately cut ties with him after he
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: forced her to engage in that activity, saying I remember
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this specific moment where I thought to myself, this is
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: no longer my choice. The campaign issued a statement denying
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the allegations, adding that he was taking the time to
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: reflect on the best path forward with his campaign. Now
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: he just wrapped up. Maine just had its primary, and
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: he just he just beat out the current governor and
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: other popular democratic, more traditional style Democrats that were running
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: for the Democratic nomination to run against Susan Collins. I
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: don't know what can be done. I don't know that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: the that the state of Maine can do anything other
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: than just kind of live with this horrible option. Also,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: that's not really anybody else's fault except Maine. Like you
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: elect someone you don't know much about or anything about,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: and you don't listen to people that try to tell
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: you stuff. I guess you kind of just stuck with
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: the option that You've got. Other Democrats, including Senate Elizabeth
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Warren and Congressman Rocanna swiftly abandoned the embattled Democratic nominee
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: and urged him to drop out of the race. Sanders, however,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: has remained silent and did not return any calls for
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: requests for comments. Fetterman said Sanders should consider sitting a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: few out after bashing his support for communists, which basically
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders has many of the progressive Democrats Socialist winners
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: even here in New York this spring and summer are
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: just unabashed Marxist. The Pennsylvania Democrat has been critical of
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Platnir for a long time, previously questioning his conduct conduct
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: on the Keeek platform, pressuring him to make public the
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: messages he exchanged with women. Yeah, see, this isn't the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: first thing with Platiner. Like this isn't like Platner's living
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: some like golden perfect child kind of life. And then
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: like ooops, I had a bad night. I just got
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: drunk and I didn't know what I was doing. Nope,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: he's been intimidating women and basically sexually being aggressive with
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: them on social media platforms and other things for a while.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Fetterman did say it was very brave for his accuser
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: to come forward. I'm sorry for what she has been through,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: he said, and again he calls on Bernie Sanders to apologize.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: It would seem to me that that would be the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: most worthwhile thing that Bernie Sanders could do. That you
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: can't go around and continue to endorse rapists and socialists
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and Marxists and Islamic radicals, which he did with Momdannie
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: and friends. Those of us that are not those things
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: have to get out and vote, like hello. That's how
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: you stop by good people taking action. Is the practical
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: way that bad people don't get to have the positions
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to take that action. So if you want to stop
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the really bad candidates from end up being in charge
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: of things, I don't care which party you're from. This
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: is an eternal principle. This is not partisan. You want
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to stop bad people from doing things on the government
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: dole and in your name, make sure they don't get
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  Speaker 2: the job. And this is why I always say the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: primary is your election. That you have to kind of
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: vote for the purest replication to who you are in
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: terms of your belief system. And if your person wins,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: then you're great. If they don't win, then you're stuck
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: with a different dilemma, which is and this is the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: dilemma you're stuck with anyway, Which of the two candidates
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: in the general election is the most evil? And how
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: do you most stop them? How do you best stop them?
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: General elections, you vote against the worst evil. Primary elections,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you've vote in favor of the best candidate. And that
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: is the and that's Kevin's rule of elections. You follow
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: that and you'll actually be doing really well if you
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: use your primary votes to support the candidate that has
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the best ideas, and then in the general election, instead
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: of pouting over your guy not winning or whatever, vote
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: instead to stop the biggest evil. And if you can
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: do that, you will be successful in thwarting the agenda
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: of evil in this country. It'll at least slow it down.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: And that's the goal we're asked. We're not asked to
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: be successful. We are asked to be faithful. And being
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: faithful means sometimes we have to take a break and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: say I didn't get what I want, but I'm not
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: going to have that become the law of the land.
• 27:50
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  Speaker 2: of course, does this great job of keeping their eye
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: on all the higher educational stuff going on in the
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: country and kind of the shenanigans that go along with
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: it sometimes. Zachary, we've had a lot of your colleagues on,
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's great to be here.
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  Speaker 2: The story is very simple. In Virginia and in Ohio
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: you have universities that are exploring a three year bachelor's degree,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and this the discussion about this is about is surrounding
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the cost of higher education. What's what's how does it work,
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  Speaker 2: and what's the thinking on it so far?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, so the four year bachelor's degree that we're all
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: familiar with is four years because we say it is.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: But as we know, college is getting incredibly unaffordable for
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: most Americans, and it's being filled with things that are
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: just not necessary. We've all seen the dei classes, the
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: first year curriculum that's more about feelings.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: And wokeness than it is about academics. So it's no.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: Surprise that you have the Higher Education Council in Virginia
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  Speaker 9: working with public and private universities both in Virginia and
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: also in Ohio to look at the possibility of introducing
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: a more broadly used year bachelor's degree program. The argument
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: here is that this is not really getting rid of
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: any education, because it would just trim off the unnecessary
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: courses and compacts on the schedules to make it a
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: more practical program for people to get in school and
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: out of school and into the workforce. I know this
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: sounds kind of like out of the box thinking and
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: kind of unusual, but it's the kind of disruption we need,
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: especially when we consider how broken high education is and
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: the fact that we just cannot see tuition going up
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: anymore without something happening. I mean, just going from four
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: years to three years reduces the cost of attendance by
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: twenty five percent alone.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: So I think this is a good proposal and a
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: good thing we need to pursue.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Who is pushing this forward.
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: It's being discussed by the State Higher Education Council in
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: Virginia and the universities in Ohio and Virginia that are
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: parting with them. It's going to say come out and
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: say we're pushing this forward. They're going to use the
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: words like we're exploring it, we're thinking about it, because
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: you know, most people across the spectrum kind of agree
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: this isn't working and we need, you know, out of
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: the box thinking. I think we can all agree on that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: But going from four years to three years, it's such
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: a radical idea that very few people are going to
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: come out of the gate and say so. So, what
• 31:24
  Speaker 9: this consortium of universities is doing is exploring the idea
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: and by twenty twenty eight making a somewhat recommendation proposal
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: on how.
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: To advance or not this idea forward.
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: So as far as like you know, rightfulness and fast action,
• 31:44
  Speaker 9: this is about as slow as in as as small
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: sea conservative as you can get.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: But it is something I think is good.
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: And that people should be championing, especially conservatives who have
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: seen and called out higher education for the broken.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, any doubt about some of the merits of it,
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  Speaker 2: but I am interested because it seems like if universities
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  Speaker 2: depend on enrollment to you know, buffer their endowment funds
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and everything else, it seems like you're going to have
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: some disgruntled, you know, institutions that are going to say, no,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: this isn't good for us, we can't raise as much
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: money off of it. These colleges that are actually participating
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: in this exploration, I'm very excited to see what they
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: find because I think what they're going to find is
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: that it can be done. How bad is the financial
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: problem for kids trying to get into college? Now?
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  Speaker 9: We're at a breaking point, I think, as we've been
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: reporting at Campus Reform, there are multiple schools now well
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: over a dozen that have tuition at one hundred thousand
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: dollars a year when you factor in room and board
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: and fees. I mean, it's not a space tuition. It's
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: the bottom line that you know you're spending over one
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars and then talk about living expenses. We're
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: seeing that at these more lead schools, you're spending five
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: hundred thousand dollars over four years. That's ridiculous. So I
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  Speaker 9: think as more and more schools that are in that
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: sixty to ninety thousand dollars age get closer two hundred
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: thousand dollars, we're going to see this avalanche of people
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: saying it's enough already, we need to change something. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 9: you raised a really good point about the financial interest.
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: It's not just tuition dollars. It's also the chain restaurants
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: and dining halls. It's tickets to sporting events, it's partnerships
• 33:36
  Speaker 9: with companies that want to put up hotels and dorm rooms.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: The more students on campus, the more money in the
• 33:43
  Speaker 9: university can make off these things. So they have a
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: vested financial interest in keeping schools, as for your bachelor degrees,
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: as for year programs, and keeping as many students on
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: campus as possible. But that is not working. I went
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: to NYU and I graduated in three and a half
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: years with a double major because I took advantage of
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: AP credits and internship credits, and I also didn't do
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: any electives that weren't counting towards My major, one huge
• 34:11
  Speaker 9: problem is that we have so many electives that students
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: just take for the sake of them, whether it's an
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: easy course or they're trying to find themselves. You're not
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: really going to know who you are until you're thirty,
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: So you really should just think about college as making
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: it as efficient, cost effective way to get a job
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: or to go out into society and enter the workforce.
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: Make it as as practical as possible. We don't need
• 34:35
  Speaker 9: the soulful exploration on a quad. It just doesn't work anymore.
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  Speaker 2: No, I totally get it. In fact, it's one of
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: the major reasons why I'm not very high on college
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: for the kids coming out of high school now and
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: the other you know, there are lots of solutions for
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: how kids can make a meaningful living beyond high school,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and we've completely given up on vocations, and we've said,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: you know, these underwater basket being lesbian studied, these are
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: far more important than learning how to weld things. I'm like, seriously,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: like we there at some point society has to say, no,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: we still value really practical, good, good old fashioned hard
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: work that keeps the whole thing running and afloat. And
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I feel bad that we have gotten to the point
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: where we, you know, kind of the society kind of
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: looks down their nose at the vocational trades and so forth,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: because there are great livings to be made. Yeah, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: higher education has been part of the problem in creating
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: that that false impression that those careers don't matter as much.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Zachary Marshall, great job. Everything that Campus Reform is doing
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: is really well appreciated. We have your people on all
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the time and grateful to you could spend some time
• 35:41
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.
• 35:43
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• 42:41
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  Speaker 2: face growing threats from authoritarian powers. Differences over Ukraine, Iran, Greenland,
• 42:49
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• 42:55
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• 42:58
  Speaker 2: opportunity to put NATO on the right path. By the way,
• 43:02
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  Speaker 2: John Hardy. They say the first order of business must
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: be spurring further European investment in defense. And in just
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: a minute, I'm going to talk with Katie McFarland about this,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: because it seems to me that while there's a lot
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: of muster from Europeans about things that America should do militarily, Oh, well,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: you should be arming Ukraine, you should be giving Ukraine
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: all the weapons that they need to fend off Russia.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: But we are not going to give them any We
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: We'll even say we're going to do it and then
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: we don't do it. It's not a very it's not
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a very consistent message that youre a sends. And I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: with these guys. I think it starts with them saying
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: we've got to be more responsible for our own defense.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: At last year's summit, Allies committed to allocate five percent
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of their GDP to defense and other security related priorities,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: a historic decision for which Trump deserves much of the credit.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Some countries, such as poll In and the Baltic Stakes,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: are already there, yet others like the UK are moving
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: in that direction, but much more slowly. In Ankara, Trump
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: should lavish praise upon the high achievers while pushing the
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: laggards to pick up the pace. The trick is to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: dish out tough love without undermining the alliance's credibility. And
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I think that this is a very smart strategy. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: like the idea that when you are dependent upon someone
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: being your partner, that you keep accountability in the positive
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: realm for as much as you can, for as long
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: as you can. And maybe maybe the partners just need
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to respond to positive reinforcements. Sometimes they just need a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: little pat on the head and it's a he such
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: a good boy. And when they do, then they're like, Okay,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I'll do it better next time. Even sometimes is there not?
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're grouchy and they you know, they're like a cat.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: They want to sit over in the corner and be
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: finicky and lick their paws and you know, scowl at you.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: But sometimes all they need is that little pat on
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the head. So Carrie, you know, encouraged loudly and carry
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: big consequences. The transition of you know, what's going to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: happen in Europe with Europe taking primary responsibility for its
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: own conventional defense. It's it's it's gonna require generational effort.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: It's not going to be easy, but it doesn't have
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: to be chaotic. Trump and rut should publicly commit to
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: develop and then stick to a reasonable NATO transition framework.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Allies shouldn't be blindsided by US decisions like they were
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in May when the Pentagon suddenly canceled the Armored Brigade
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Combat Team's rotational deployment to Poland. But that should have
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: been a lesson withdrawing US capabilities before the Europeans can
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: replace them, risks inviting Russian aggression, which it didn't end
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: up doing. Russia was too busy with Ukraine. And there's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: more that These guys go on to say, the alliance
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: must set realistic timetables. They confusion over the deployments of
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: US troops in some of these places have been troubling.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: As an interim solution, they suggest Trump should direct the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Pentagon to resume the rotational ABCT deployments. These forces, which
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: aren't needed in the Pacific, would bolster the defense of
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: the Deterrence rather of Russia, and proved to Europeans that
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Washington rewards allies who step up. Trump should also use
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: the gathering to put Russia on notice. Vladimir Putin no
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: longer has the cards in Ukraine. Ukrainian forces have gained
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: some momentum on the battlefield, and Trump has publicly taken note.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Russian territorial advances have grown even slower and more casualty intent,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and Ukraine has even managed to claw back a little land.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: So he needs to just like put it on the table.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: You want to stop Putin, you got to put some
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: elbow grease in. That's the way it works. Uh, they say.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Until then, Trump should tighten sanctions on Russia's energy and
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: financial sectors and work with allies to reinforce Ukraine's long
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: range strike and air defense capabilities that would help keep
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Putin at bay. I don't disagree with that at all.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: And I think that he I think he's he's going
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: to have to he's going to have to go in
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: there and talk to the Europeans, specifically the Northern Europeans
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: like their kind of Dodo heads, like you don't know
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: what you're doing, so here, let me lay it out
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: for you. We'll explain it. We'll do our best to
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: make sure that you understand. So we'll see, we'll see
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: what happens from all of it. Kevin McCullough glad to
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: have you with us, But Congress is also kind of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: hoping he'll do something while he's over there too. But
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: the President said on Tuesday he plans to lift the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: US sanctions on Turkey and signaled he is prepared to
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: move forward with a stalled sale of F thirty five
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: stealth fighter jets, marking a dramatic reversal in US policy
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: toward the NATO, ally years after Ankora was expelled from
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: the program for its purchase of a Russian missile defense system.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Let me just tell you what's happening there, the President saying, Look,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Turkey needs help. If we don't help them, where do
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: they turn. Oh, they go over to Russia and say
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: we need your help. That's the way it works. You
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: want them to be on our team. Act like they're
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: part of the team. Speaking alongside Turkish President Ertawan during
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: a bilateral meeting at the NATO summit in Ankara, Trump
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: said his administration will remove those sanctions. He says, I
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: can tell you we're going to be taking the sanctions off.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want him to waste his time answering that question.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: It's time we don't sanction friends. Whether he would sell
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the F thirty five jets to Turkey despite existing legal
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: restrictions tied to Ankhar's per to the Russian made US
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: four hundred air defense system, Trump indicated he was open
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: to doing it. Many people, including the people sitting right here,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: think why wouldn't we do that? Turkey has been in
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: many ways much more loyal than other countries that we
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: think would be loyal, and he's an ouch that is
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: a direct shot right across the bow to the European
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: folks that didn't lift a finger. Turkey has at least
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: been involved in the Iran issue and has been helping
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: with the negotiations and trying to bring about a conclusion
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: to that. Pressed on concerns about Turkey's continued possession of
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: the S four hundred, Trump dismissed them, I have no
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: concerns about anything. The remarks represent Trump's cleverest, clearest rather
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: indication that he intends to restore defense ties with Turkey,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: building on months of efforts to revive military cooperation with
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: one of NATO's largest armed forces after years of strained relations.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: They were removed from the multinational F thirty five program
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen after taking delivery of the S four hundred
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: air defense system, prompting Washington to argue that operating the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: Kremlin built system alongside America's most advanced stealth fighter could
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: expose sensitive US technology. Congress subsequently imposed sanctions under the
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Countering America's Adversaries through Sanctions Act. So that's the deal.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: If it's between Congress and the president. This president continues
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: to be faithful to what he says he's going to do.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna go with him on this. That's just
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: how simple it is for me. Kevin mccallaugh, we'll get
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: some smarter perspective. Next. Katie McFarlane's waiting in a way.
• 50:54
  Speaker 7: Here.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: He is from New York.
• 50:57
  Speaker 11: Exact Kevin McCalla.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome man. It's the Tuesday edition that Kevin Show,
• 51:05
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  Speaker 2: this time, and KT not a lot has been going on.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, they buried Kamani over the weekend and some
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: people said some stuff and whatever. I don't know that
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: the world paid much attention at all. But this week
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: NATO is getting together and it's meeting in Turkey, which
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: is kind of a thorny place in my mind. I
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: could be wrong. I stand to be corrected, but there's
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of advice being given the President as he
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: heads over there to what has typically been kind of
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: one of the sterner places. He's kind of had to
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: play the mean daddy role. What do you expect out
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: of this trip?
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: I don't think it'll go very well. President Trump wasn't
• 51:53
  Speaker 8: even going to go until President Arijuana Turkey said, look,
• 51:57
  Speaker 8: it's my show. Haven't had one of these in a
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: generation in Turkey? Would you please come? So President Trump,
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: who relies on aer Dowan as one of the brokers
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: between the Middle East, the Iranians, and the US and
• 52:13
  Speaker 8: the West, President Trump agreed to do it. So this
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: is Airdwan's coming out party, shall we say?
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: So?
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: That's number one. What Trump wants is two things out
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: of the Europeans. He wants them to up their NATO spending,
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: which they should do, and they've said they're going to do.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: It's going to be hard for them to do it
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: because most of those economies don't have the money to
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: do it, and even if they did, they don't have
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: the defense industrial base to manufacture those weapons. But the
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: second thing President Trump wants says, Okay, guys line up
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: on Iran, and they won't do that. They feel that
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: the Iran War was a massive mistake, that it was illegal,
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: that it was President Trump's fault. Everything was just fine
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: before President Trump invaded Iran, and there's not going to
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: be much to change their opinion, even though oil prices
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: have come down, even though the Strait of Hormones is
• 53:01
  Speaker 8: open to a lot of traffic, even though Iran no
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: longer has nuclear weapons. The Iranians are just I mean,
• 53:07
  Speaker 8: the Europeans are just mindset, stuck and hate Trump. They
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: really hate Israel, and so there's no way they're going
• 53:16
  Speaker 8: to say nice things about the Iran war, even though
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: the objective reality is that we've done pretty well.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: With it well and I'm sorry, but doesn't neutralized Iran
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: benefit Europe in like significant ways.
• 53:29
  Speaker 8: For sure, because guess what, Iran has the capability of
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: delivering those nuclear weapons to Europe. They have the range
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: to have missiles go from Iran to Europe. So of
• 53:43
  Speaker 8: course I've benefits, but they don't really, I don't know.
• 53:46
  Speaker 8: The European mindset is so hateful of Trump, so hateful
• 53:50
  Speaker 8: of Israel that anything that benefits either of those they
• 53:54
  Speaker 8: just don't like.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, what's the rationale? What's the rationale for why they
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: dislike Trump so much? Because there's everything he's done that
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: has benefited America. There's been layers of benefit for them,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and long term, he's just trying to realign the Middle
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: East to create a more stable environment. What is the
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: big rub that he liked that he was so offensive
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: to them.
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: With a lot of it is the anti Semitism in Europe,
• 54:25
  Speaker 8: especially now as they've increasingly had large migrant groups from
• 54:30
  Speaker 8: the Middle East who come in and who are anti
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: Israel and who are voting blocks. The other argument they
• 54:36
  Speaker 8: give is well around distracts attention from what they feel
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: is the most important issue, which is the Ukraine War,
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: saying well, America's okay.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Lot of second and this confuses me genuinely, and I'm
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: not trying to be obnoxious about this, but they don't
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: have the ability to produce weapons for their own defense.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: They said they were going to step up and supply
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: weapons for Ukraine when you win the the US said,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: we're kind of pretty much done with doing this, and
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: they don't like the Like, what are the Europeans if
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: not a bunch of shadow puppets.
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: I'm grateful. Look, I completely agree the Europeans cannot go alone.
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: No matter what they say that America is terrible. We
• 55:21
  Speaker 8: don't really care. If they're in NATO, We're going to
• 55:23
  Speaker 8: go a lot. They can't go along. They don't. They
• 55:26
  Speaker 8: don't and Europe and I think that here's the thing.
• 55:29
  Speaker 8: The United States and our European allies, we have a
• 55:31
  Speaker 8: shared common history, we do not necessarily have a shared
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: in common future. They have taken a very different path
• 55:38
  Speaker 8: in the last twenty or so years. They built up
• 55:41
  Speaker 8: huge social welfare systems where you know, you retire at
• 55:45
  Speaker 8: age fifty, you don't have to work very much. They
• 55:48
  Speaker 8: now have a huge influx of population, immigrant population, which
• 55:53
  Speaker 8: does not contribute to the GNP, which is a drain
• 55:55
  Speaker 8: on their national.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: But I bet they'll be glad to take the fifty
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: year old retirement.
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: If they work at all. But so the Europeans have had,
• 56:04
  Speaker 8: and that the cost of that has been that they've
• 56:06
  Speaker 8: not invested in their defense industrial base, in their industry,
• 56:10
  Speaker 8: or in their military. They've also taken this policy of
• 56:14
  Speaker 8: no fossil fuels, So even though Europe has coal, even
• 56:18
  Speaker 8: though Europe has a lot of oil in the North Seat,
• 56:20
  Speaker 8: they won't use it. And so as a result, their
• 56:23
  Speaker 8: manufacturing base is withering. They don't have economic growth. They
• 56:28
  Speaker 8: do have population growth of the minorities that they've accepted
• 56:31
  Speaker 8: in so their cultures are changing and they really have
• 56:35
  Speaker 8: taken a very different approach. So what has the United
• 56:37
  Speaker 8: States approach been. Well, we've had migration, We've had immigration
• 56:40
  Speaker 8: illegal as well as legal, but we do tend to
• 56:43
  Speaker 8: assimilate them. The Europeans don't. We are having a very
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: pro growth under President Trump, very pro growth economic approach,
• 56:51
  Speaker 8: so that our economy is growing and now that oil
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: prices are coming down, our economy is sentence set just
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: to get flourish of ecomic growth with the investment coming
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: into the United States. This is part of every trade
• 57:04
  Speaker 8: deal Trump science the countries have to, in other words,
• 57:07
  Speaker 8: build factories in America so Americans can get jobs. That's
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: going to change We're going to have economic growth, maybe
• 57:13
  Speaker 8: not this year, but increasingly not two three percent, but
• 57:17
  Speaker 8: it could. President Trump says, look, we could even have
• 57:19
  Speaker 8: economic growth that's eight nine percent. We could do we can,
• 57:22
  Speaker 8: and we could do it with manufacturing. So all those
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: things is a very divergent path to what the Europeans
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: have taken. And then in addition, we are increasing our
• 57:31
  Speaker 8: defense spending, we are increasing our defense technologies. And then
• 57:35
  Speaker 8: another part of it is that Europe was always like
• 57:37
  Speaker 8: our mental center of gravity, right because of our shared history.
• 57:41
  Speaker 8: The new center of gravity is going to be the
• 57:43
  Speaker 8: Western hemisphere. It's going to be the United States, South America,
• 57:47
  Speaker 8: Latin America, the countries of those countries. Instead of producing
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: you know, chief consumer goods in China, how about producing
• 57:55
  Speaker 8: them as South America shorter transit to the United States.
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: Were the big market, more reliable governments because increasingly they're
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: rejecting their communist, socialist decades worth of failure in embracing
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: whether it's Argentina, whether it's Chile, Brazil will soon have
• 58:14
  Speaker 8: a new election, they're all embracing the American model. So
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: the Western hemisphere is going to be our center of
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: gravity for the next fifty years.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Some really stunning insights, Kat, and I thank you for
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: being with us because this is the kind of stuff
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: that we can't get anywhere else. Let me ask you this,
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: And I wrote a piece for town hall dot com
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: yesterday as I've been thinking about this. You know, the
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: fossil fuel debate, it continues to kind of go on.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: It's surprisingly you're going to have some Democrats run in
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: this election cycle on green energy. Like I thought that
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: issue was dead, but evidently to the left it's not.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't know how much it helps them, But
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: long term, we have a lot of uranium supplies in
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: the US in addition to fossil fuels, and I really
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: want to see small modular reactors come into increasing use.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: In fact, I did some math yesterday. There's one company,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I think they're located in Idaho or somewhere out west,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: that makes these things, and one of their reactors can
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: power a city of three hundred thousand families for ninety
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: one years in low energy mode. In low mode. And
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: to use those reactors to power like all of New
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: York City, we'd only need like twelve hundred of them.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: But isn't the race, especially with AI data centers and
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: some other technologizase that we need. Isn't it like an
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: endless supply of energy that nuclear could really help us with?
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: Whoever the a race, whoever it's the most important thing
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  Speaker 8: for the future is AI. Who gets to AI first?
• 59:50
  Speaker 8: Because whoever gets whichever country gets to AI first, And
• 59:53
  Speaker 8: we're way ahead, but China's trying to catch up. Is
• 59:56
  Speaker 8: a country that dominates all the future technologies, right, and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: for AI, Well, you need technology. We're good at that. China,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: it's good at that. Nobody else is good at to
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  Speaker 8: the extent that we are. The second thing you need
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: is endless energy because it takes a lot of energy
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  Speaker 8: to power all of these computers. So what do we have, Well,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: we have because we're energy dominant, we're energy independent. We
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: have a lot of energy oil, natural gas, goal so
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: we have a lot of fossil fuel energy. But you're right,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: we need all of the above. And what has the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 8: United States Navy shown us over the last fifty years?
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  Speaker 2: Works pretty well?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: Nuclear works really well. We have submarines, we have aircraft carriers.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 8: We haven't had one accident. So nuclear is a very
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: viable future. It's a viable future for all of these countries,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: but for all their high bound reasons, they're probably not
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: going to do it, other than France, which does use
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: a lot of nuclear. But we need all the above,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: and if we get all the above plus the technology,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: we are in a position to dominate the world. Because
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: think about it, so we in China have technologyctrews have energy,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: a lot of energy, Argentina has energy, ill has energy,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: Alan has energy, Russia has energy. But what country has both?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: It's only the United States. Because China may have technology
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 8: that they have energy, they have to import it.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, well said, all right, Katie, always appreciate it. Thank
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: you for taking some time out for us.
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  Speaker 8: It's a pleasure. Thank you.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin mccalloch. I'm in right back. Don't go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's stick around for more of that. Kevin.
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  Speaker 11: Next here he is from New York, exactly. Kevin McCulloch.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Kevin mccallaugh. Glad have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: I have an update on the Graham Platner debacle. Senator
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Fetterman from Pennsylvania I reported last hour said that he
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: called on Bernie Sanders to apologize and to step up
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: in the Graham Platner Senate race from Maine for the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Senate seat from Maine, and now the Democratic Socialist Bernie
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: Sanders has in fact done that. He has stepped up
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: and said that he was encouraging mister Plattner to step
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: out of the race and to be done. That's kind
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: of the last straw. I mean, conceivably, he can stay
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in the race as long as he wants. He can
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: still go around in campaigning do what he wants. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: think at this point the damage is done. If they
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: if they picked, like in the in the primary race,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: you had eighty percent of the turnout go for the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Nazi Marxist Graham Plattner. Second place was a distant second.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: Janet Mills, the governor. She came in at twenty percent,
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  Speaker 2: and then there were a couple that were in single digits.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: But you're close to eighty twenty and then a couple
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: of single digits. You don't have anybody that the state
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: has really looked at and said, oh, I really want
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: that person to be except for the guy that's now
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: being you know, turns out he's a rapist and has
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: all kinds of other issues. You've had every major Democrat
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that made a big deal about going to Maine and
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: endorsing him and saying how he was going to correct
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's sins and all the rest of it. Well,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: that's that's all turned into who he because here he is,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: you know, with these problems again and what I don't understand,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: and this is troubling to me. And if you're a Democrat,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: maybe you can send me some elucidation on this to
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: that and show at gmail dot com because I'd love
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: to read the understanding of this. I'd love to try
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: to understand it better. But why is it a problem now?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: He had other men, he had other women that came
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: forward earlier in the campaign and made accusations. He's had
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: this issue with his social media where he was being
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: inappropriate with some women, some younger girls, and nobody said
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: boo about it. I mentioned it, a few of the
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: other people in talk radio mentioned it, but nobody, nobody
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: covered it. And now the Democrats are all acting like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: this is you know, sky is falling. We had no idea,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: how could this ever have possibly been the case? And
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: they knew before anybody else did. This is this is
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: my problem with that party. And I'm not trying to
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: be partisan, but if I'm looking at it from an
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: objective viewpoint. They always protect the evildoer until the evildoer's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: evil comes into such full light issue that the entirety
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: of the globe basically has a chance to look at it.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: And then they're like, oh, no, I can't believe. I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: can't believe he would betray us like this. I had
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: no idea. No, you had, you had lots of ideas.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: You knew quite well that this guy has harassed and
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: come on to and assaulted women. And at the very minimum,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: if you don't know that he's done that, then you
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: know that the women that have made these accusations are numerous.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they can all be wrong. Maybe
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I am, I don't. I don't think so. But long
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: story short, it turns out now that Bernie Sanders has
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: said he needs to exit the race. He said in
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: a written statement that he had spoken with Platiner about
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: the allegation, and he recommended that he step aside. The
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: leading progressives decision to effectively disavow Platner marks the latest
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: blow in this once ascendant but now floundering campaign, leaving
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: him with virtually no remaining support from the movement that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: fueled his populist bid against Susan Collins, and Susan Collins
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: is about as awful a Republican as we can have
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: in the party. She's always seeming to be opposite the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: party on all the wrong things, and when she does
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: go right with him on a few things, I'm kind
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: of grateful, but then she'll remind me how bad she
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: is by voting against something really good or vice versa,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: right when I hope that she's turned the corner. And
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: so I don't really have a lot of hope that
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Susan Collins will be any better than Susan Collins has been.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: But I know that if you put Graham Platner in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: that seat, it's gonna go it's gonna that seat's gonna
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: turn into a Marxist sewer rat like it's that's it's
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: just going to turn into something awful that nobody's gonna
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: want to have any part of. And so that's that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Even Mamdanni, and this is this is kind of remarkable,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: considering his total loyalty and allegiance to the most progressive
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: socialists out there, But even Mamdani called for Platinir to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: step aside. And by the way, I find it really
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: ironic that the View the other day had on someone
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: from the one of the New York races and they
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: gave they gave one of the view hosts a really
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: hard time because she was supporting one of the Democrats
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: that had won. And I'm trying to remember which one
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: it is. I think it's the woman and she were
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: they were they were talking to her and they said,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: but you know, why are you so anti semitic? And
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: why do you hang around anti Semitic people? And Mom
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Donnie's spokesperson calls ABC and gets into an argument with
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: ABC Television over what was said on the view about
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: something that was completely unrelated to New York or to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: the mayor's job or anything. Why do they go to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: the mat to defend anti anti semitism, Why do they
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: go to the mat to defend terrorists? Why do they
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: go to the mat to basically go against everything that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: traditional American values would represent. It seems to me to
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: be a huge problem and the Democrats are going to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: have to address it. Yeah, I'm miguel I Domini back.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Here. He is from New York.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: That Kevin McCullough, welcome back. It's that Kevin show that
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: kevinshow dot Com always glad to have you with us.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: We never put anything behind the paywall because we want
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: you to have access to all of it. Mike Gonzales
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: is with the Heritage Foundation. He's been with us many
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: times in the past and we talk about a variety
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: of different things. He was a journalist, traveled the world,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: served as part of the George W. Bush administration as
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: a speech writer. He's also worked on the SEC and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: he's done a number of things related to the European
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: version of that and of the State Department. Rather and Mike. Recently,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the Smithsonian, something called the Smithsonian Report has been released,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: and this was initiated by the Trump administration. But what
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: were they trying to find out?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: Well, they actually they put out a report quite extensive,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty nine pages if you don't count
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: the five hundred and fifty footnotes. So a lot of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: people have said its one hundred and sixty pages. I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: count the pages of the content of the report. But
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: it's very, very extensive. And what it is is it
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: exposes the National Museum of American History has done. That's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: one of the Smithsonian museums, one of the twenty one
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: Smithsonian museums, what it has done to detegrate the taeilling
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: of our history, to make Americans and visitors feel ashamed
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: of their heritage in their history. The museum, as I said,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: is a twenty one museums. None of them at least
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: have the word national in it. And the idea of
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: a national museum is to collect history and a nation's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: culture and then curated and transmitted to future generations. Culture
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: is not something that we carry in our blood, Kevin,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: is something that needs to be taught constantly to future generations.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: And the Smithsonian does this in reverse. It teaches visitors
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: many millions that America is ugly to the core, not
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: worth be serving, not worth continuing. It's paid for by us,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: and just to put it now, to put a bow
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: on it, what needs to happen is the leadership of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: the Smithsonian needs to be fired.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Well needs I.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Want to head back to that in a second, but
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: I want to kind of illustrate for those listening and
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: watching a little bit more in depth what you're talking about. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: the Smithsonian is a national museum. Our tax payer dollars
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: fund it, operate it, keep it in activity. That's one
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: of the reasons why you can go to DC and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: go to it for free, because it's ours, it's the people's,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: and they should be telling the facts of the founding
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: and of the existence of our nation, and instead they're
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: allowing a narrative to drive what they're presenting to the public.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, complete narrative.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the founders, which really we're very fortunate to
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: have had to have had that generation that came together.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: Really all the planets were aligned in the seventeen in
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: the seventeen seventeen. Now for us to create a nation,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: I have lived all over the world. I wasn't even
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: born in America. I lived at least a year in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: other countries, in seven countries in I'll tell you that
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: America really is exceptional in many ways, not in being rich,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: like Zorammdani said, he understands nothing about America, but one
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: of the ways that America was exceptionalist in having had
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: this founding generation. Well, the Smithsonian ignores this founding generation.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: It really has. For example, with Franklin, the exhibits on
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: him only mentioned at the very end, So they talk
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 4: about the slaves that he owned, in how these slaves
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: that he owned enabled him to do the things he accomplished,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: and only at the very end doesn't mention in passing
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 4: that I ually he became the president of the Pennsylvania
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: for the Abolition of Slavery Society. That is unconscionable, the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: Pennsylvania Society for our abolition, conscionable for them to criminal really,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: for them to treat Franklin in this manner. A national
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: museum of American history, nothing on the Mayflower. And yet
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: what the Smithsonian has done is cite itself at the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 4: hip with the sixteen nineteen project, which is a project
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: packed with lies. Lonnie Bunch, the secretary of the Smithsonian,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: assigned one of his chief curators to curate the sixteen
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: nineteen project.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Her name is listed as one of the authors. This
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 4: Our congressman, you know, give the Smithsonian over a billion
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: dollars a year. They appropriate over a billion dollars a
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: year of your money, Kevin, my money, the money of
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: all Americans to pay for this garbage.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Something needs to.
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  Speaker 2: Be done, no doubt, and friends, you can do that
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: by calling your congressman and telling them you'd like them
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: to defund the amount of money they're spending at the
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: Smithsonian if they don't change their ways two two two
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: two four thirty one twenty one the better. The better
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: option would be to take this report, highlight the inconsistencies
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: in the in the falsehoods, and correct them. Mike, is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: there any chance that we can accomplish that?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I think so. I think it will happen this year.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: I actually I think that you know, Trump, whether you
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: love him or hate him, I happen to like a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: lot of the stuff that he does. Trump has been
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: able to do things that his predecessors weren't able to do.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be able to fix the Smithsonian.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Besides the Ben Franklin example, what's the what's the next
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  Speaker 2: most egregious thing that the report found?
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  Speaker 7: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: It did has exhibits on kinkwaar and and and and.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: And sexual stuff accessible to children.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's important. Wait wait, so that's important to our
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: national history. But getting it right on Ben right once
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: abolitionist tendencies was was unimportant.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it has Uh, I don't want to even
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  Speaker 4: go on about it.
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  Speaker 3: It has stuff that.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: You know, if a young mind sees that it will
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: be scarred, uh, you know, holsters, things that I used
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: by the depraved in sexual acts.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: So we're for the firing of the of the Smithsonian.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: The leadership has to go.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: Anthey heartache that the director of the of the National
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 4: Museum of American History has to be fired, but particularly,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: most much more importantly, her boss, Lonnie Bunched. The third
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: needs to be fired. And the Latino Museum must never
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: be built. The Latino Museum hasn't been built yet. It's
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: going to be another hothouse, another incubator of grievances. Uh.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: For heaven's sakes, they stopped funding the building of this museum.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 4: We know it's going to be not just headed in
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: the same direction as the National Museum of American History,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: is going to be much much worse. It's going to
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: try to tell one twentieth of Americans today that their
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: country hates them unless you hate their country.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: This is not what we need to do with our money.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, only a foolish.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: People would pay for the erasure of their history and heritage.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Americas are not a foolish people.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that they are. Mike, and I agree
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: with you, senior fellow Mike Gonzalez at the Heritage Foundation.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks for making us aware of this. We appreciate it.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks a lot, Kevin.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Kevin mckella coming back from New York. Okaway's stick around
• 1:16:34
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• 1:16:35
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  Speaker 2: write me and say, keV, what's the name of that?
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  Speaker 2: What's the name of that AI? My kids have to
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  Speaker 2: use AI now and I don't want them using chat,
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  Speaker 2: GPT or claude. Well Dominion dot chat is where you
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  Speaker 2: go dominion dot c h a T on the Internet.
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  Speaker 2: You just type in dominion, do M I n ion
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  Speaker 2: dominion dot chat and you'll you'll pull it right up
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  Speaker 2: for you. So I would encourage you to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to take a second to say a good
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  Speaker 2: word about somebody who I've disagreed with in the past,
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like it's important, if I for me
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  Speaker 2: to have integrity to do that. And the actor Michael Rapaport,
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  Speaker 2: for many years was a very deeply critical person of
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  Speaker 2: the current president, and I always thought in a fairly
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  Speaker 2: unfair way. But During a recent episode of Jamie Kennedy's
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  Speaker 2: podcast called I Hate to Break It to You, the
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  Speaker 2: fifty six year old comedian opened up about how his
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  Speaker 2: perspective on the president has evolved over time, including what
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  Speaker 2: prompted him to move away from derogatory name calling and
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  Speaker 2: adopt a more respectful tone. Kennedy asked, you were mad
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  Speaker 2: at Trump. Now you're cool with him. Rapaport said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I have problems and he's not far from He's
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  Speaker 2: not far from not being infuriating. Rapaport said that after
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  Speaker 2: Hamas attacked Israel and abducted hundreds of hostages, his views
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  Speaker 2: began to shift, and he said, after October seventh, I
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  Speaker 2: just realized the magnitude and scope of the hostage situation,
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  Speaker 2: and it was between cadaver Joe Biden and Trump and Kamala.
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  Speaker 2: But I knew the only way those hostages were being
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  Speaker 2: held for weeks and then months and then a year.
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  Speaker 2: I knew that the only chance for them to be
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  Speaker 2: freed was Trump. Why I don't insult him now? And
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  Speaker 2: how I could insult him and I could be derogatory
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  Speaker 2: towards him is because for me, simply getting the hostages
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  Speaker 2: home was enough for me to not be anything but respectful,
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  Speaker 2: to be respectful the reality that I saw. It's worth
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  Speaker 2: it for me to not be disrespectful to him because
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  Speaker 2: I fought, begged, pray, pleaded to get the hostages home
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  Speaker 2: by any means necessary. And he said people have reached
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  Speaker 2: out to him upset that he stopped disparaging Trump, but
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  Speaker 2: he invited those people to carry the torch because he
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  Speaker 2: was no longer interested in slamming the president. He said,
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  Speaker 2: for me, it was enough to get the hostages home
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  Speaker 2: and protect Israel's right to exist. Those two things were
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  Speaker 2: enough for me. Some people vote on different things, some
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  Speaker 2: people want different things. A lot of times you don't
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  Speaker 2: get them. But for me, it was enough for me
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  Speaker 2: to do that, and it was important enough for me
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  Speaker 2: to do that. I respect and I know what I've seen,
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  Speaker 2: who I've spoken to, the insight that I've had to
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  Speaker 2: not be disparaging to him simply for that. I still
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  Speaker 2: could be critically said and still be frustrated and have
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  Speaker 2: all the things, but it was important enough for me
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  Speaker 2: to no longer carry on like that. Friends, what I
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  Speaker 2: think that says, is that Michael Rappaport, even though he
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  Speaker 2: may not be a big fan of the president, he
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  Speaker 2: has learned wisdom in how to deal with those he
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  Speaker 2: disagrees with. And that's a lesson Our entire nation could
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  Speaker 2: stand a Larne Kevin McCullough, We'll see you next time.