Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Ep. 3: “60 minutes of hell” Jason Taylor on playing against Tony | Boselli: A Podcast Series
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- 0:04Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame, will would truly be the high
- 0:07Speaker 1: speed of his arner I can have as a as
- 0:09Speaker 1: a football player. Welcome to a celebration of Jacksonville Jaguars
- 0:14Speaker 1: left tackle Tony Bacelli's induction in the National Football League
- 0:19Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. What makes it even more special for
- 0:23Speaker 1: me is I want to represent this organization and this
- 0:27Speaker 1: fan base because I know it's important to them as well.
- 0:29Speaker 1: For them to care that much means a tongue to me.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Join Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Hosier as he
- 0:35Speaker 1: sits down with the people who know Tony both professionally
- 0:39Speaker 1: and personally. Hall of Fame defensive end Jason Taylor in
- 0:48Speaker 1: covering Tony's sort of journey two the Hall of Fame.
- 0:53Speaker 1: I know I've seen several places where you have spoken
- 0:56Speaker 1: barely strongly of him getting in. Uh, what were your
- 1:01Speaker 1: thoughts when he did get in and and what are
- 1:03Speaker 1: your overall thoughts and him as a player. I thought
- 1:07Speaker 1: it was very deserving when he kind of got in,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and none of there was debate about the the longevity
- 1:12Speaker 1: of his career, and he dealt with some injuries late
- 1:14Speaker 1: in his career, but there was a I don't even
- 1:17Speaker 1: though for the lack of knowing the exact number of years,
- 1:19Speaker 1: you know, there's a five or six year periods of
- 1:22Speaker 1: time there where he was, if not the very best,
- 1:25Speaker 1: one of the top two tackles in the in the
- 1:28Speaker 1: NFL and the tackles in the NFL, and he, I
- 1:30Speaker 1: mean it right up there with a Jonathan Oggins and
- 1:32Speaker 1: and Orlando Paces of the world that we're playing at
- 1:35Speaker 1: that time, and he's Tony's I thought, always had the
- 1:39Speaker 1: talent and had the body of work. Um, minus the longevity.
- 1:43Speaker 1: If if that's what you want to hang it up,
- 1:44Speaker 1: hang up, you get hung up on you can. But
- 1:47Speaker 1: having played against him as some of the top tackles
- 1:49Speaker 1: in this league, I thought he was very deserving and
- 1:51Speaker 1: you know we had a you know, we played a
- 1:53Speaker 1: few times and he wore my high parts out every time.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Talking to Michael McCrary a couple of weeks ago, same topic.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Of course, he had a chance to play against Tony
- 2:03Speaker 1: more often than you did. They're in the same division.
- 2:06Speaker 1: But he talked extensively about, you know, the preparation for
- 2:10Speaker 1: those matchups and the knowledge going into it of the
- 2:14Speaker 1: effort that it was going to take to win a
- 2:16Speaker 1: matchup or to gain ground on him. I assume you
- 2:21Speaker 1: had the same thought that this was a guy that
- 2:23Speaker 1: if you didn't come prepared for it was gonna be
- 2:25Speaker 1: a long day or was me a long day? Anyway, Yeah,
- 2:28Speaker 1: you knew what you're gonna get going into playing the Jaguars,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and with Tony being across and me, you knew what
- 2:33Speaker 1: you were gonna get. It was gonna be very intense,
- 2:36Speaker 1: high effort event for the entire day. And you know,
- 2:40Speaker 1: sometimes some players have laws and throughout the course of
- 2:42Speaker 1: a game and the hit coming out a half time,
- 2:44Speaker 1: there might be a resurgence of energy. But then you
- 2:48Speaker 1: hit the late in the third or fourth quarter, you
- 2:50Speaker 1: start to see that effort kind of go down, and
- 2:52Speaker 1: the energy that will go down, and that strength or
- 2:54Speaker 1: to Nancy go down. And you know what, Tony and
- 2:56Speaker 1: I know it's so cliche, but you were going to
- 2:58Speaker 1: get that sixty minutes of hell, and it was just
- 3:01Speaker 1: you knew going in and there was you know, it's
- 3:03Speaker 1: such a hard position to play for you know, an
- 3:06Speaker 1: offensive lineman. It's such a hard position to play as
- 3:08Speaker 1: a defensive vent against a guy like that because, as
- 3:11Speaker 1: you know, the ball comes out so quickly. In the NFL,
- 3:13Speaker 1: you know they have all the advantages. They know the play,
- 3:15Speaker 1: they know the snap down, they have they have time
- 3:18Speaker 1: on their side. So it could become frustrating for a
- 3:21Speaker 1: defensive end sometimes definitely when you're playing against someone as
- 3:24Speaker 1: great as Tony Tony was and you know so you're
- 3:27Speaker 1: telling yourself constantly, this is gonna be a sixty minute war.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Keep keep chipping away at it. You know you may
- 3:32Speaker 1: get blocked. You make it the ball, you may you
- 3:34Speaker 1: may not make a couple of play and make a
- 3:35Speaker 1: play for a couple of quarters. Those are coming opportunity
- 3:38Speaker 1: in a game where something you do is gonna work.
- 3:40Speaker 1: You're gonna have an opportunity to make a splash. And
- 3:42Speaker 1: he was really really good at being being up to
- 3:45Speaker 1: speed with you or one step ahead of you, and
- 3:47Speaker 1: understanding what you were trying to set up and knowing that, okay,
- 3:50Speaker 1: we get you got to a third, you got to
- 3:51Speaker 1: a third and eighth situation here. You know, this defensive
- 3:54Speaker 1: vent has done this to me the last couple of
- 3:56Speaker 1: times on third day, and I think if you're trying
- 3:57Speaker 1: to set this up so he'll sit down, he'll sit
- 3:59Speaker 1: hard on that. On the long arm said, hardly inside move,
- 4:02Speaker 1: anticipate to spin off of a chip, which he didn't
- 4:04Speaker 1: get chips on his side a whole lot anyway, But
- 4:06Speaker 1: every you know, every once in a while, if I
- 4:08Speaker 1: ever saw bat was gonna be doing his side, you know,
- 4:10Speaker 1: selling with speed and use that chip block trying to
- 4:13Speaker 1: take the inside move off of that. And he was
- 4:14Speaker 1: always ready. He was always ready for whatever you had
- 4:17Speaker 1: coming next. He had length, he had sized. He was
- 4:21Speaker 1: very very smart, very very strong, and the feet of
- 4:24Speaker 1: a really of an outside linebacker, defensive ends slash basketball player.
- 4:28Speaker 1: He was just very difficult to be Jason. I'm amazed.
- 4:32Speaker 1: I don't have all you know, Tony, but I've heard
- 4:35Speaker 1: him tell me many times. If the defensive ends had
- 4:38Speaker 1: all the advantage in the matchup, the offensive tackles had
- 4:41Speaker 1: no advantage. So I wouldn't see the different I wouldn't
- 4:45Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect them to see it any other way.
- 4:47Speaker 1: They got the snap count, they hold, they grabbed, they
- 4:50Speaker 1: do all that stuff. But you know, it is what
- 4:52Speaker 1: it is. But listen all those things aside. At the
- 4:55Speaker 1: end of the day, you know, you could have the snapcount,
- 4:57Speaker 1: you could have the play, you could have the slide. Textually,
- 5:00Speaker 1: you could have a backchip, and you can have a
- 5:01Speaker 1: tight end hanging in the hip position. You can have
- 5:04Speaker 1: all those things. A really good a really good player
- 5:06Speaker 1: is still gonna find a way to to beat those
- 5:08Speaker 1: matchups at some point the game. And it may be
- 5:11Speaker 1: a crazy thing for mus alignment is they can do
- 5:12Speaker 1: a great job for sixty five plays in a sixty
- 5:15Speaker 1: six play games they can make up make you know
- 5:18Speaker 1: you can get beat quote unquote good beat one time
- 5:20Speaker 1: in the game it's a sack fumble when everyone talks
- 5:23Speaker 1: about how you got beat. So it's it's a very
- 5:25Speaker 1: very difficult situation. I didn't need any help. And like
- 5:29Speaker 1: I said, there was a there was a Monday and
- 5:31Speaker 1: night game UM up up there in Jacksonville, and he
- 5:34Speaker 1: if they didn't turn the lights out and locked the
- 5:37Speaker 1: gate and make everybody leave the stadium, I would still
- 5:40Speaker 1: be there right now with him with my ask. Now.
- 5:43Speaker 1: That was the game that he still talks about as
- 5:45Speaker 1: a lot of fun. A lot of Jaguars fans remember
- 5:47Speaker 1: it because it was sort of the only time they've
- 5:50Speaker 1: really seen him get fiery towards a guy. Um. You know,
- 5:54Speaker 1: I was down in Miami that week because we working
- 5:56Speaker 1: for four times Union. I don't remember you saying anything,
- 6:00Speaker 1: but evidently you said something that week that he didn't like.
- 6:03Speaker 1: You know, what was your memory of sort of what
- 6:07Speaker 1: I got him so fired up? I know it's been
- 6:08Speaker 1: twenty three years now. Yeah, it's been a while. I'm
- 6:11Speaker 1: not sure if I said anything in the in the
- 6:13Speaker 1: in the lead up to the game, I typically didn't
- 6:16Speaker 1: unless I was someone pissed me off, and sometimes I
- 6:19Speaker 1: would just get tired of hearing it was hearing the
- 6:21Speaker 1: same question from the media, so I would just spout off.
- 6:23Speaker 1: But it didn't happen very often. But I do know
- 6:25Speaker 1: that game I was talking a lot. That was early
- 6:27Speaker 1: in my career, when I was still unshore myself, still
- 6:30Speaker 1: lack the confidence that I could that could be a
- 6:32Speaker 1: car carrying a member of the Badass clubs. I was
- 6:35Speaker 1: trying to talk my way into it, and you know,
- 6:38Speaker 1: the frustration started building for me, and the more frustrated
- 6:41Speaker 1: you get as a young player, you just keep chirping away.
- 6:43Speaker 1: And I think he ended up getting a personal file
- 6:46Speaker 1: for doing something for It's probably for unnecessary roughness because
- 6:50Speaker 1: he was I'm telling you, I'm not I keep saying
- 6:52Speaker 1: this he was wearing my ask out out in the
- 6:57Speaker 1: vall with the whistle was being blown, and he was
- 6:59Speaker 1: not stopping and draw on my face in the ground
- 7:02Speaker 1: and throw me off the ball. And it was it
- 7:04Speaker 1: was just one of those nights where and it was
- 7:06Speaker 1: I needed it. I needed that in my career too.
- 7:08Speaker 1: He You know, you start to feel like you're you're
- 7:10Speaker 1: arriving and you and you're you're good enough, and you
- 7:13Speaker 1: go against a great player that that has your number
- 7:15Speaker 1: for that particular night, and you can either shy away
- 7:18Speaker 1: from it in the future, or you know, say oh
- 7:20Speaker 1: I am what I am, or you find ways to
- 7:22Speaker 1: get better and and and he really helped me in
- 7:25Speaker 1: my progression through my career too. I understand that when
- 7:28Speaker 1: you go again against he's a league guys, you can't
- 7:30Speaker 1: do some of the things you do against lesser talent.
- 7:33Speaker 1: It may have been that you didn't say very much,
- 7:35Speaker 1: but it just didn't take him very much too. He
- 7:38Speaker 1: may have made something up in his mind. No, no, no,
- 7:40Speaker 1: I probably don't know what I said because I'm old
- 7:43Speaker 1: and starting to forget things. But I know for a
- 7:46Speaker 1: fact I was talking the entire game, all right. I
- 7:49Speaker 1: can't tell you what I was saying, because I don't remember,
- 7:51Speaker 1: and I probably couldn't tell you if I did remember,
- 7:53Speaker 1: because I'm sure it was bad. Somehow, some way, I
- 7:56Speaker 1: finally found the button. I pushed the button to get
- 7:58Speaker 1: him piste off enough to get a penalty, but it
- 8:00Speaker 1: didn't help because I didn't get near Bruneo. You mentioned
- 8:03Speaker 1: sort of being a cardcareing member of the club, and
- 8:05Speaker 1: you mentioned it as a young player. But I'm curious
- 8:08Speaker 1: as somebody who's in the hall, and Tony obviously had
- 8:11Speaker 1: a long journey to get here, but it means so
- 8:13Speaker 1: much to every guy who gets in, and it's sort
- 8:15Speaker 1: of a general question, and I sorry about Tony. What
- 8:18Speaker 1: does it mean once you're in? Tell me that feeling, uh,
- 8:22Speaker 1: in terms of life change afterwards? Just perception. What is
- 8:27Speaker 1: it that makes this so special for guys? Um? I
- 8:31Speaker 1: think there's a few things. Probably that tag never goes away.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So you you're introduced as not former Miami Dolphin. You know,
- 8:38Speaker 1: you're introduced as proo Ball Hall of Famer, and there's
- 8:41Speaker 1: there's been tens of thousands of guys that have played
- 8:43Speaker 1: this game, and to be part of that fraternity of
- 8:47Speaker 1: very select a few guys three or fig some of
- 8:51Speaker 1: guys that are that are in the pro BA Hall
- 8:53Speaker 1: of Fame. Um, it shows how difficult it is to
- 8:56Speaker 1: get there, how special that club is. And it's validation
- 9:00Speaker 1: in for your career. Um, it's validation for what for
- 9:02Speaker 1: the work of time and the effort, um, the breaks,
- 9:06Speaker 1: the good luck, um, the great teammates, you know, the
- 9:09Speaker 1: great support staffs around you. And that's why it was
- 9:12Speaker 1: so important for me when I went to Hall of
- 9:13Speaker 1: Fame that you know, you only get a certain amount
- 9:15Speaker 1: of time and I obviously blew past that that number,
- 9:18Speaker 1: whatever it is, eight minutes. You can't thank everybody enough
- 9:21Speaker 1: and get everybody in because there takes you know, it
- 9:24Speaker 1: takes the village to raise a child, and it takes
- 9:26Speaker 1: a it takes a whole country private reader to make
- 9:30Speaker 1: up football player great. And that's from their parents, their
- 9:33Speaker 1: elementary school teachers and coaches, their youth coaches, they're high
- 9:36Speaker 1: school coaches, the college guys, support staff and all those organizations.
- 9:40Speaker 1: And obviously you get in the NFL, you've got to
- 9:41Speaker 1: have the right GM coach, teammates. I mean there were
- 9:45Speaker 1: so many people, equipment staff, trainers. You spend so much
- 9:48Speaker 1: time with your trainers, guys that are never named, guys
- 9:51Speaker 1: that the only time their names ever come up is
- 9:53Speaker 1: if something bad goes wrong with the player, you know,
- 9:55Speaker 1: help wise. And it's it's guys like that that that
- 9:58Speaker 1: it was so important for me need to acknowledge to
- 10:01Speaker 1: them that that there's no way I was gonna be
- 10:03Speaker 1: standing on that stage. You can't know Ohio without a
- 10:06Speaker 1: long list of people when it goes for every guy,
- 10:08Speaker 1: and so I think it's I think the validation and
- 10:11Speaker 1: the for myself and for my teammates and those people.
- 10:15Speaker 1: You know, it's most important for me. And you know,
- 10:18Speaker 1: the football ends at some point for everybody, UM, believe
- 10:22Speaker 1: it or not. I know Tom Burry looks like he's
- 10:23Speaker 1: defining the odds. At at at some point he's got to
- 10:25Speaker 1: stop playing. Um. But I think that living living, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 1: your your your body of work, eternally, being part of
- 10:33Speaker 1: the Proboa Hall of Fame with such a small number
- 10:37Speaker 1: of guys kind of such a big pool of participants
- 10:40Speaker 1: and the thousands and thousands will come through the sport,
- 10:43Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's it's really gratifying. And you know,
- 10:46Speaker 1: there's some there's some dark times. There's some dark Knights,
- 10:48Speaker 1: and you know, tough flights and tough losses and all
- 10:52Speaker 1: those all those times you're like, and this is this
- 10:54Speaker 1: as ridiculous as a worth it my body? This you know,
- 10:57Speaker 1: when you when you look back in retrospect, like, you
- 10:59Speaker 1: know what, that is why I did? Do you do
- 11:03Speaker 1: what you do? That's why you I did what I did.
- 11:04Speaker 1: That's why you had to push you some of those things.
- 11:06Speaker 1: That's why you had to take you to stand it
- 11:08Speaker 1: from the media after a tough loss and just take
- 11:10Speaker 1: the blame, whether it was whether you were to blame
- 11:12Speaker 1: or not, just you know, put the bill for your
- 11:14Speaker 1: for your teammates so you can build and progress in
- 11:17Speaker 1: the next week. And trying to find ways to develop
- 11:19Speaker 1: yourself mentally and physically and emotionally to to raise your
- 11:23Speaker 1: level of play every week. It's it's such a it's
- 11:25Speaker 1: such an amazing journey that when you reach that destination
- 11:29Speaker 1: of Prootball Hall of Fame, it's so gratifying. But then
- 11:32Speaker 1: then for me, at least, I sat there, I looked
- 11:34Speaker 1: back and I was like, damn, I should have really
- 11:36Speaker 1: enjoyed that that long trip back from San Francisco, you know,
- 11:39Speaker 1: overnight when I was graping the boy a little bit
- 11:42Speaker 1: because he was taking the red eye back. But you know,
- 11:44Speaker 1: it's it's those times that you miss and so you're
- 11:47Speaker 1: you're forever now in that fraternity of football Hall of Famers.
- 11:50Speaker 1: So when I when I get around those guys, and
- 11:52Speaker 1: I was just with a couple of few days ago,
- 11:54Speaker 1: you know, Marcus Allen, and there's there's a bunch of
- 11:56Speaker 1: guys up there, DeMarcus Ware who's gonna be in there?
- 11:58Speaker 1: And at some point it's you're starting to hear their
- 12:01Speaker 1: their journeys and their stories and you're like, and you
- 12:04Speaker 1: just you connecting a different way. You can you can
- 12:08Speaker 1: you can see and feel and understand. I sat with
- 12:10Speaker 1: Jerry Rice yesterday and it just and talking to him
- 12:13Speaker 1: was like, I'm in the same I'm in the same
- 12:15Speaker 1: club ZERI Rice, the guy there's no rankings within that club,
- 12:20Speaker 1: but he is a goo. There's no rankings within that club.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I'm in there for now. It's will forever be in
- 12:25Speaker 1: the proper boll of Fame. Yeah, I guess that's the
- 12:27Speaker 1: reason I asked, because it would have been easy if
- 12:30Speaker 1: you sorry, that's my dog, Jason, Um. It would been
- 12:33Speaker 1: easy for you not to do this interview. Uh, And
- 12:36Speaker 1: I assume the fact that you wanted to do it
- 12:39Speaker 1: was because you look at Tony Boselli as a guy
- 12:41Speaker 1: who ought to be in that club. And you guys
- 12:44Speaker 1: don't take that lightly, do you. I mean, in terms
- 12:47Speaker 1: of when you speak for somebody, you want to make
- 12:50Speaker 1: sure that it's somebody who sort of belongs. So I
- 12:52Speaker 1: assume you really think that this is a guy, this
- 12:56Speaker 1: is a deserving thing. I absolutely do. And it's actually
- 13:01Speaker 1: a couple of years ago I had made you know,
- 13:03Speaker 1: had made some compliments about Tony and in in his
- 13:07Speaker 1: candidacy for the proper Hall of Fame and what I
- 13:09Speaker 1: felt about him as a player, and whether he was
- 13:11Speaker 1: deserving or not. And I don't have a vote, so
- 13:13Speaker 1: it's like everybody else, I'm allowed to have an opinion,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and I kind of expressed an opinion, and I had
- 13:17Speaker 1: I was actually questioned by people, by a couple of people,
- 13:20Speaker 1: and you know, they weren't they weren't in the Hall
- 13:22Speaker 1: of Fame, but they were associated around it that you
- 13:26Speaker 1: you know, you're you're vouching for a guy that has this,
- 13:29Speaker 1: this and this, and are you sure? And you're gotta
- 13:30Speaker 1: be careful with who you where you kind of endorsed
- 13:33Speaker 1: im like, Look, I'm not endorsed. I'm not endorsing or
- 13:35Speaker 1: voting for anybody I'm saying. I'm simply saying saying the
- 13:38Speaker 1: facts and the way I see it. And Tony Boselli
- 13:41Speaker 1: was an a lead player for a good period of time.
- 13:44Speaker 1: I know it wasn't twelve fifteen years like some guys.
- 13:48Speaker 1: God dealt him a different hand with the injury that
- 13:50Speaker 1: he couldn't bounce back from. But for that six class
- 13:52Speaker 1: six year period, there was not a better There was
- 13:55Speaker 1: not a better guy out there in the national football
- 13:57Speaker 1: leagu If there was somebody that was just as good
- 13:59Speaker 1: and they one A and one beat final two questions.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Uh think you mentioned at the top, but as a
- 14:05Speaker 1: guy who lined up across from him, uh football one
- 14:09Speaker 1: oh one? Here what specifically made him so good? I
- 14:14Speaker 1: mean you mentioned feet, you mentioned everything. Uh, was there
- 14:17Speaker 1: an intangible or just his ability to put that all
- 14:20Speaker 1: together and then you know, maximize what God had given him.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I mean there's intangibles I guess that that every great
- 14:26Speaker 1: player has that you know, they they've developed through you know,
- 14:29Speaker 1: growing up with their parents or or whoever raised them
- 14:33Speaker 1: and through high school and college and throughout their career.
- 14:37Speaker 1: So you know, those things go without go without being said.
- 14:39Speaker 1: But you know, you with Tony, he had he had
- 14:41Speaker 1: a lot of the great ones. They have the ability
- 14:43Speaker 1: to play with such quick feet for guys that are
- 14:47Speaker 1: sometimes weighing less than you know, a hundred pounds less
- 14:49Speaker 1: than I'm on the edge, they can play with speed
- 14:52Speaker 1: while keeping a power base, not getting not getting off balance,
- 14:56Speaker 1: not getting twisted, staying square. You know, we always try,
- 14:58Speaker 1: I always trying to get offensive linement out of the
- 15:01Speaker 1: phone booth. They all want to play the phone booth,
- 15:03Speaker 1: keeping nice and tight, get their hands on you, get
- 15:05Speaker 1: their long arms around you, and just hold on to you. Again,
- 15:08Speaker 1: the ball has gone into and a half two point
- 15:09Speaker 1: three seconds. You're trying to get these big guys out
- 15:12Speaker 1: into this island. I'll get him out the phone booth
- 15:14Speaker 1: on the island, and in doing so, nine times of
- 15:17Speaker 1: the tend you could break down their technique and get
- 15:18Speaker 1: them off balance, get them reach and get them lunch,
- 15:20Speaker 1: and get them bent over at the waist. And he
- 15:22Speaker 1: didn't have had the ability to play with you know,
- 15:25Speaker 1: then you great flexibility in his ankles, knees and hips,
- 15:27Speaker 1: playing with great power and leverage and had the quickest
- 15:30Speaker 1: feed and long arms to be able to get out there.
- 15:32Speaker 1: He could dance with the best of the edge guys,
- 15:35Speaker 1: but as a three and some pound there was so
- 15:37Speaker 1: much power to strength. So that was the biggest thing
- 15:39Speaker 1: for me, was just trying to get him out of
- 15:42Speaker 1: the out of the phone booth and off balance and
- 15:44Speaker 1: and break down this technique, and it was it was very,
- 15:46Speaker 1: very difficult. He had that nasty streak too, right, that
- 15:50Speaker 1: goes without saying, yeah, there's only a couple of there's
- 15:54Speaker 1: there's a couple of amazingly great ones that that didn't
- 15:58Speaker 1: that had a streak and the street but they never
- 16:01Speaker 1: you didn't know it, but you could feel it when
- 16:03Speaker 1: they punched you. You know, you get a guy like
- 16:04Speaker 1: Jonathan Oggan and just felt like it was he was
- 16:06Speaker 1: always smiling, like when he was when he was wearing
- 16:09Speaker 1: you out, like he's always doing like a half smirk
- 16:11Speaker 1: on his face, like it was so easy, you know.
- 16:13Speaker 1: On Orlando Pace, it was just such such great guys personally,
- 16:17Speaker 1: and they just they get on the field and they
- 16:19Speaker 1: looked like they're this chilling but they're they're still mean
- 16:22Speaker 1: with it inside. And Vasselli had that as well, but
- 16:24Speaker 1: you could bring Basselly had that, but he played I
- 16:27Speaker 1: think with more more outward emotion and tenacity then you
- 16:32Speaker 1: might see from a j O or or you know
- 16:34Speaker 1: from from Orlando or even Walter Jones. I mean we
- 16:37Speaker 1: there was the course of my career in those four tackles.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Lord helped me. Yeah, that's the rushmore, no doubt. Yes, Hey, Jason,
- 16:45Speaker 1: I could. I could talk nineties and in early two
- 16:47Speaker 1: thousands football with you all day. I'm not going to
- 16:49Speaker 1: do that, but I do want to thank you so
- 16:51Speaker 1: much for being willing to share these thoughts with Jaguars
- 16:55Speaker 1: fans and Tony's fans. I can't tell you how much
- 16:57Speaker 1: it means to me. I know you've got a lot
- 16:59Speaker 1: going on, so thank you very much for joining us.
- 17:01Speaker 1: And I could have enjoyed it more. Jason, my pleasure
- 17:03Speaker 1: and thank you for the time. And Tony Boselli. Welcome
- 17:06Speaker 1: to the PROPOFOL Hall of Fame. H